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Monday, October 24, 2016

As the 2012 presidential election approaches, a debate has broken out among Democratic-leaning pundits about the wisdom of President Obama’s campaign strategy. Writing in The New York Times, Matt Bai thinks Obama may have made a big mistake by listening to Bill Clinton.

Up until he won the Republican nomination, the Obama campaign appeared set to characterize Mitt Romney, in the immortal words of GOP rival Jon Huntsman, Jr., as a “well-oiled weathervane”—a political opportunist who would pretend to believe anything in order to win.

If there’s a “hot button” issue on which Romney hasn’t done a complete 180 since his days as a Massachusetts pol, it’s hard to think what it is: abortion, gay rights, immigration reform, and most of all, health care.

You name it, and Mitt’s been on both sides of it. It’s a wonder his campaign posters don’t depict him like the Roman god Janus, with two faces looking in opposite directions.

Clinton supposedly argued otherwise. Writes Bai, “The best way to go after Mr. Romney, the former president said, was to publicly grant that he was the ‘severe conservative’ he claimed to be, and then hang that unpopular ideology around his neck.” The thinking was that independent voters might forgive the candidate for sounding like a Republican during Republican debates, “but they would be far more reluctant to vote for him if they thought they were getting the third term of George W. Bush.”

Actually, I quite doubt that Bill Clinton gave such simplistic advice. Regardless, this strategy must have looked particularly wise after Romney’s selection of Rep. Paul Ryan as his running mate. Polled separately, the individual elements of the so-called “Ryan budget” passed last spring by the House Republican majority are terribly unpopular: more tax cuts for the rich, converting Medicare to a voucher program, along with sharp cuts to social safety-net programs like Medicaid, food stamps, Pell grants, etc.

But, Bai continues, “in recent weeks, starting with the first debate, the challenger has made a brazen and frantic dash to the center, and Mr. Obama has often seemed off balance, as if stunned that Mr. Romney thinks he can get away with such an obvious change of course so late in the race. Which, apparently, he can.”

Indeed, polls showing Obama comfortably in the lead shifted markedly in the challenger’s favor after the first debate. Possibly the president was overconfident, disdainful of Romney’s high-pressure salesman-like approach, perhaps also disdainful of the TV game show aspect of the debates.

Whatever the reasons, Obama’s phlegmatic, disinterested performance ended up making him appear older, less energetic, and—always important in an American political context, less optimistic than Romney—who at age 65, is actually 14 years his senior.

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  • Gene Lyons has posted a very stupid and idiotic opinion piece. The strategy that president Obama’s campaign uses against Romney is the exact strategy that they needed to pursue. Romney definitely needed to be characterized as a political opportunist and flip-flopper because that is exactly what he is. For Lyons to quote The National Republic is very insulting to me and many others. The National Republic is a very extreme right-wing media outlet. Anything they say will be totally skewed to favor their support of Romney. Lyon might as well have asked Fox News for their opinion. Mitt is both a shameless flip-flopper and a shameless opportunist. Rational thinking American voters see and understand that. Just like lying ads that Romney has running in Ohio about Chrysler Jeep and GM shipping overseas, both these false ads have been refuted by Chrysler and GM as nothing more than deception and lies. Ohioans will not be fooled. They know who helped the auto industry out of bankruptcy and it wasn’t Romney. Their voices will be loudly heard on November 6.

    • I hope with all the fervency I can muster that you are correct, Sir.

      OBAMA 2012

      • 1bythebrooks2

        Wake up people of the U.S.A.!! A Romney presidency, bringing all his high pocket cronies with him will be the death of we the people!!

        • AMADAL

          All of these idiots that are gullible enough to believe everything that comes out of RoMoney’s mouth are proof that our education system is in deep trouble. How could a top notch education system produce so many non-thinkers? Oh, I forgot–this is the system the Repukelicans are fighting for.

        • Sandra

          I hope people wake up in time to take note of your post 1bytherbrooks2. I simply can’t imagine why anyone besides the racists would vote for this man who made his fortune firing American workers and outsourcing American job while making millions in the process. His fortune is hidden in tax havens around the world which means he has never paid his fair share of taxes yet enjoys all the benefits of living in American. What’s wrong with people. He plans on destroying what’s left of the American middle class and democracy yet they are willing to buy into his bs and support him when he has todate given no actual plans, just talking points of his intentions.

          • Mitt Romney is a FRAUD period!

        • neece00

          I am with you, I worry about the supreme court if Romney has to elect a judge.

        • you got that right I will put in another term WAKE THE F**K UP AMERICA

        • With 1/4 Of Our Country And People Under Water From Hurricane Sandy Romney Low Life Ass Is Still Trying To Campaign!!! This Should Show The American People Want He Really Cares About ROMNEY AND WHAT IN IT FOR HIM!!!

          • neece00

            Hi there friend, but isn’t it sad that some of the American people still think he is the best. I do not understand the thinking of some people.

          • SibyllasStuff

            They are racist, pure and simple.

          • Hello My Friend Those People Are The Dumb, Stupid And Racist People Out Here !! Anybody Has To Be Crazy To Vote For Romney Lying, Greedy, Shape Shifting Butt!!! How In The Hell Can You Trust Him He Lie Way To Much Plus He Still Shutting Down American Companies And Shipping American Jobs To China!!!

          • WhutHeSaid

            Did you hear about how the Romney campaign rushed out to WalMart to buy $5,000 worth of canned goods for their fake ‘Hurricane Relief Event’? Must have learned from Paul Ryan washing clean dishes.

          • grammyjill

            I just saw on the ed show that the relief rally romney had his campaign bought 5000.00 worth of stuff so the people that came to the rally could walk in with something. Another photo op.

          • peteserb

            Where was your trashy president when the attack in Bengazhi was occuring? It backfired on the communist jerk!

          • WhutHeSaid

            He was doing his job as President. Where were you? Humping Karl Rove’s leg, no doubt.

          • there he goes again. pansy ass.

          • oldtack

            Again – you dumb ass
            These four men were employed by the United States Government in danger filled jobs.
            They were well paid for their service.
            They were committed to the task before them.
            They were committed to the fulfillment of their assignment.
            They lost their lives doing their job.

            They were brave warriors and they paid the supreme sacrifice for their dedication and Service. We morn their death as we honor their service and dedication to our Country.

            You piss and moan about the death of four Warriors but ignore the Supreme Sacrifice of the thousands of young men and women warriors of these two wars. Or – do you give a damn about these young warriors or are they just cannon fodder to you?

            Where was Obama? he was then where he has been this week – he was attending the functions of this government that your idiot asses in Congress have stonewalled for four years.

            An investigation was made – Hillary Clinton accepted the blame for not taking appropriate steps. Keep in your feeble mind that your idiots cut funding for the this department.

            To quote my DI Sgt.Why don’t you get your head out of your ass so you can use your brain.
            Ru Ra

    • darkagesbegin

      Au Contraire–Gene’s piece is neither stupid nor idiotic. I share his opinion that voting for Romney is indeed voting for a puppet whose strings will be pulled by Karl Rove and the Koch Brothers. That should be obvious to anyone who pays even a modicum of attention. I don’t know how this might be effectively conveyed to voters who don’t pay attention, however. Maybe that is why they haven’t made an attempt to do it.

      But it goes without saying that it doesn’t matter who the republican candidate is as long as Rove injects himself into the mix. He will be calling the shots from off-stage–a Shadow President. And this will be the end of the American experiment as we know it.

      • Don,’t forget to throw in Grover Norquist also

        • Dianes4babies

          Yes! Remember Grover Norquist saying “all we need is someone with enough working digits to sign the bills”!

          • I believe that every politician of either party should be required to state whether or not they have signed the Grover Norquist “no tax” pledge and if so, we should vote against them. This kind of pledge puts the person elected in a position of being unable to do what is best for the country even if he/she wanted to.

          • Dianes4babies

            I totally agree! NO president of this country should ever be beholden to anybody !

          • grammyjill

            Romney has already signed it.

          • Norquist does not ask the Democrats to sign his stupid treason book just Republicans. I haven’t heard or seen where any Independents were asked to sign Norquist book of treason. He should be in prison right now for all of his crooked lobbying and would be if his partner Jack(I just forgot his last name) Abraham?? had turned and became a witness for the government. He went to prison while Norquist stayed free. The new group of Republicans elected in 2010 all stated that they couldn’t wait to sign his book. So you can just about bet that all Republicans have signed Norquist’s book of treason.

          • oldtack

            Is this the Political Purist, Grover Norquist that has a Muslim wife?

          • grammyjill

            We need to get rid of that scum too!

      • foolsdance

        Don’t forget that good old Dick Cheney is hiding in there with them! A triumvirate of evil fools.

      • SibyllasStuff

        In some ways, I’m less concerned about Rove and the Koch Brothers -( what about this guy Singer – not to mention R’money and his wife who profited greatly when Delphi was dismantled ) and more concerned about the neocons waiting in the wings, licking their chops to make more war profits .
        That’s probably the kinds of jobs R’money says he knows how to bring to America – manufacturing the things needed to go be at war – including drones. Corporatizing everything.

        • grammyjill

          The jobs will go to our children as cannon fodder in Romney’s wars.

    • docb

      Yes, Stop! If I were the Chairman of GM and Chrysler I would bring a suit to romney for causing instability around my products and in my work force!

      He is an outrageous fraud that has lied with glee but now now he has caused hardship to an Industry that was just saved! 1.5 million jobs saved and an institution in manufacturing History of the USA!

      Reprehensible and disgusting trash is all romney milhous is! Worse than Nixon who was a patriot which the scum bag is not!

    • mbm

      I certainly hope you are correct. To see the polls so close with election day a mere 7 days away, I find hope only in the knowledge that most polls are conducted calling landlines, omitting the great number of cell only users. Romney is masterful at the art of deception, playing on the fears and concerns of supporters and independents alike. That he will say whatever needs to be said, contradictory or not, to the audience at hand, and make it appear to be a continuation of his policy is just delusion, but effective. Call it flip-flop or overt deception, this opportunist will persistently lie, without remorse, because he is justified in his beliefs that ‘lying for the Lord’ is for the ‘greater good’-in his mind, the good of the country and for his greater good. The power of the presidency and the power of the White House is heady indeed. He has fooled a great many people who are oblivious to his lies.

      • viewfromtheleftcoast

        the pitiful thing is that he would have “no power” as the “puppet” and that is really, really scary

  • Lovefacts

    Following Sandy, we voters are reminded of Romney’s desire to do away with FEMA and Ryan’s budget slashing FEMA by 43%. While returning some of the Fed. Government’s projects is good in the abstract, when a diaster hits it would mean help would cease. Plus, over the past few days, Romney has looked craven and has been proven a knowing liar with his auto ads. The man is without a moral core. I pray the American people are smarter than to vote for this man. We do so at our own risk.

    • adler56

      Right- you have to wonder what kind of a religion allows a pathological liar to be a Bishop and wear magic underwear-oops, I think I answered my own question- a non-religion religion

      • Roz

        Really Religion? How about you check out facts before you make such statements. What a biased opinion.

        • adler56

          Are you agreeing with me that Mormonism is not a religion or didn’t you understand my post?

  • It’s hard to believe this country has fallen backwards to accept Romney. The tea party will doom us all, if we let it. Stand up and support our president if you want ANY rights left to you. If you read the world news, and stopped istening to idiots like Hannity, whose ONLY desire is to get richer, like Romney. The world views Romney as a threat and they are worried. They have every right to be. Wouldn’t it have been delightful to see a debate where Romney actually had an idea. No he only speaks what his tea party base tells him to speak. He has no mind of his own. He will gut this country.

    • Roz

      If I were a member of the Tea Party I would be very scared right now. I didn’t hear one Tea Party idea only agreement with the president’s ideas in the last debate.

      • foolsdance

        Not to worry… if elected ‘moderate mitt’ will evaporate into a fine mist come 1/2013.


          So will you Foolishdancer!!!!

          If obama gets in another four years—-

          YOU ARE GOING DOWN!!!!!!

          • foolsdance

            Good to know I’m safe, alllll – Obama’s got this! But thanks for playing – your lack of intellect is so absurd that I almost think you are actually an Obama fan pretending to be an idiot to show us all how stupid mitt wits are. A double agent, as it were. Good job.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Talk about going down! I believe that Satan has constructed your very own private entrance to Hell for all of the whoppers you’ve told. Sort of like a firehouse pole, except longer and greased so that you can go home that much quicker.

    • nobsartist

      why? the country fell backwards when it elected the AWOL coke head that lied us into 2 wars and the idiots elected twice.

      • Are you talking about Bush one or Bush 2

        • nobsartist

          both and any from the crime family. bush 1 is the one that allowed the jobs to go to china. bush 2 finished stealing what 1 didnt and willard will steal whats left.

          where are willards tax returns?

          • oldtack

            Everyone seem to forget the first Bush – Prescott Bush father of the Clan Bush. The Prescott Bush that would have destroyed the economy of this Country many years ago if he hadn’t been outed.

          • nobsartist

            outed by general smedley butler

  • Mimi2kool

    Romney would do well to remember that you can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can’t fool all of the people all of the time. And that is what he would have to do to win on Tuesday.

  • WhutHeSaid

    It’s not about flip-flopping. It’s not about ‘severe conservatism’. It’s about lying and racism.

    Granted, everyone has come to expect politicians to stretch the truth — sometimes REALLY stretch the truth. But this isn’t your ordinary Presidential election, and Romney isn’t offering up the normal politician’s ‘spin’.

    I’ve said it before, I believe that 2012 is the Year Of The Whopper. I can’t remember an election with a major party candidate who flat out lies his ass of in order to get elected. Everyone should know by now that Romney, and Ryan as well, have been trying to distance themselves from their real beliefs because, well, America does not like them. OK, granted few can claim to REALLY know Romney’s beliefs because John Huntsman was correct in pointing out that he is a ‘well-oiled weather-vane’, spinning toward whatever political stand is currently polling well.

    But Americans don’t like being lied to. I can’t believe that so many Americans are oblivious to Romney’s chameleon-like policy reversals and re-reversals that they will vote him into office regardless of the facts. If such a thing can happen in 2012, then we have a serious issue on our hands where truth no longer counts for much.

    I think a lot of it has to do with racism still. As racists always do, there is much denying that the color of Barack Obama’s skin has anything to do with furious opposition to anything he does. Yet all one has to do is look at the video of slack-jawed Obama haters calling him a ‘communist’, yet unable to actually describe what communism is when asked, to see that there is something else at work here — something that these people refuse to admit. Opposition to Obama is WAY over the top, with detractors rarely able to give rational reasons backed up by fact.

    Romney may not be racist himself — it’s hard to tell (as with anything). But Romney is an opportunist, and he knows full well that he must play to rabid bigots whenever possible. He does this as shamelessly as staring directly into the television cameras and lying to the American public. They won’t forget, and should he actually pull off a win next week they will be calling in all of their political chits. Only then will we find out about the ‘real Romney’ — much too late.

    I’ve seen a lot of elections, and one thing is for certain: When the pendulum swings too far in one direction it inevitably swings back with a vengeance. The age of Caucasian-dominated America is coming to an end — that’s a fact. Racism will never again be accepted. Face it now or risk being smacked soundly by the pendulum on it’s return swing.

    • fastfootedd

      It’s all about money with the Republicans. The real winner – no mater who wins or loses the elections are news outlets/media who have raked in billions constantly playing those so called political Ads. Whatever happened to the days when they would actually research to verify the content of the programs prior to showing. I guess the super tiny and quickly displayed disclaimers that scroll at light speed below the Ad frees them of any obligations to promote factual informaiton. Hell they’ll show anything as long as they get a dollar.

      So they make massives amounts of dollars which goes to oh yes a billionaire republican media mogul who in turn takes a portion of it and gives it to you guessed it an idiot like Mitt Romney who spends it again on commercials that spew lies. What a scam. The only losers here are the regular people of America who get brainwashed and fall for all of those lies. Sad!

      How can half of the American people be so fooled by the obvious lies that Romney spews daily? It’s a shame and indicates that we do indeed need to have education high on are list of key components toward getting America back in the real race. Something Mitt and his cronies will attack to address our deficient – or did he flip on that one. It’s hard to tell what he supports any more. That is why we Americans can not let this shapeshifter get the reins of our country. If he does – I’m starting to become a firm believer that the end of the World is truly coming Decemeber 21, 2012, at least as we know it here in America.

      God be with us and keep Romney out of our highest office – we can not afford another term lead by a Republican (Crooks, Liars, Thiefs, Dictators ….)

      • WhutHeSaid

        It may be all about money for Romney and his wealthy donors, but what about the slack-jawed trailer trash you see spewing epithets at Obama from between their few remaining teeth? These people aren’t wealthy, and they are apparently voting for Romney in droves. I don’t think these people really care about economics much — yet they faithfully repeat all of the Fox News talking points. Just what do you believe their votes are all about?

        Believe me, I’ve spoken with many people who otherwise appear to be intelligent, whose eyes cloud over at the mere mention of Barack Obama. It takes a few minutes to realize that they are transforming into a seething bigot before your very eyes, yet that’s exactly the case. With these people there is no rational discussion, because they are consumed by racist hate that they obviously learned during their upbringing. People aren’t born racist.

        Romney is pandering to the bigot vote, which is why he likes to repeat the lie about Obama ‘gutting Welfare work requirements’. It’s just another lie among many, of course, but it’s intended for racist consumption, as Romney knows full well. He will need to keep pandering to these people if elected to prevent a minor revolt within the House of Representatives.


          I have said it over and over



          It has NOTHING to do with Racist—-GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!

          • WhutHeSaid

            … lied the bitter bigot.

          • WhutHeSaid


          • WhutHeSaid

            Tell me, Un-American — when did you first realize that Satan had taken control of your tongue and started using it to spew evil whoppers into the world?

          • Bodine666

            Who, exactly, is this ‘we’ you are referring to? While I’m asking questions, why do you think herr cain would be a good president? From what I could see of his policy he would have completed the destruction of the middle class.

            I’ve challenged many to give answers. I’ve never seen a response. Well nothing that includes anything more than four-letter obscenities.

            For starters, explain how his 9-9-9 tax plan was nothing more than a way to crush the middle class.

            The complete lack of critical thinking is common among conservatives. Super PACs, financed and promoted by the rich and for the rich, tell cons they’d be better off if the rich got even more tax cuts. Does this not sound stupid to cons? Do cons never think, even for a moment, to challenge self-serving statements made by the rich? Do cons never consider the source? For any that are capable of thinking, explain how you fall for the rich telling you the rich need more tax cuts. Do you also fall for lines by criminals that they don’t need jail time? Both are self-serving statements. Both are blatantly false.

            Why do cons think romney would be good for the country? His record of vulture capitalism? Check his record. Almost one in four of the companies Bain bled ended in bankruptcy. Bain has a 22% failure rate. Compare to the DOE. Only one in twelve of their investments ended in bankruptcy. That’s 8%. Clearly the DOE is much better at investing than Bain.

            How about job creation? For the past 52 years Democrats held the White House for 46% of the time yet 64% of private sector jobs were created under them. Repubs had White House for 54% of the time yet only 36% of private sector jobs were created under them. Clearly Democrat’s track record is far superior. One more small fact. During that same time period only two presidents reduced the deficit. Clinton and Obama. Again, Democrats hold superiority.

            These are easily checked facts.

            The only thing repubs have going for them is the fact their obtuse followers are happy falling for the drivel they are fed on a constant basis. Repubs depend on the fact cons are incapable of critical thinking. Just look at the latest lie. Cons claim Jeep is moving to China. Even the spokesperson for Jeep commented on the parallel universe cons live in. Despite the fact Jeep put to the lie what repubs claim cons still swallow it without question. Can’t cons check even a single lie? Especially one as blatant as this?

            Cons are led around like a bull with a ring through his nose, going through life without a single question. None of them seem to be able to see the sledge hammer waiting to crush their skulls at the slaughter house.

            It’s now wonder the right-wingers refer to their followers as their flock. They are so easy to fleece.

          • Wrong! It has everything to do with racism. Where was your outraged when George W. Bush got us into two unfunded wars and grew the federal government? Where was your voice then? You are fooling only yourself into thinking it has nothing to do with race. It sure as hell does. Now go deal with your racism and don’t foreget your meds!

          • neece00

            But since when does Romney become the best choice over Herman Cain. It sounds like you are picking the next guy either just because he is a republican or because is not Obama.

    • viewfromtheleftcoast

      Unfortunately, money speaks that loudest………20.1 million in ads in Ohio alone to be spent in just the next 6 days……….hopefully Ohioians will just get fed up and vote against the assault….

  • adler56

    What was left out of the article is how stupid Americans have become in recent years- they’re as much like a weathervane -if polls can be believed- as williard is. We need all the remaining smart Americans to vote by Nov. 6th- not the 8th as Republicans running polling places in the Confederacy have been telling Democratic voters.

    • fastfootedd

      I voted early for B. Obama!

      • cbraccnt

        ME TOO!

      • viewfromtheleftcoast

        Me Too….Oregon has 100% vote by mail. Sent out Voter Info. 3 weeks ago and ballots 2 weeks ago……not a bad idea for all states…….saves a lot of crunch time for voters and election officials counting ballots

        • fastfootedd

          Sounds like a great idea – I just hope they are not manipulated in anyway – okay I’ve become quite the skeptic these days, but who can blame me with the way the past serveral Presidential Elections have gone. Some will lie, cheat and steel to win.

    • Which we are not falling for.A great majority of people in the South have voted early. And we aren’t voting for Romney/Ryan.

  • Eagle05

    Bill Clinton never made the recommendation to limit the attack on Mittens to a single prong strategy. Observing Clinton through the years he always counts on his fingers several options to any question. Obama’s strategy has included the chameleon duplicity of Mittens from the beginning placing emphasis as strategy dictates. The one thing that Obama & Co. own is the president’s piss poor performance in the first debate. While perhaps not devastating it has been costly.

    • Roz

      The president said he was sleeping during the first debate. If I were Romney I would not consider the first debate a win. If he couldn’t win against a sleeping opponent than its time to hang it up.

  • montanabill

    I sincerely hope that the President continues his ‘small ball’ campaign. He is moving the polls and needs to keep it up.

    • WhutHeSaid

      Bill, you have to be clearer in your posts — people mistakenly think you support Obama. Or perhaps you just wanted to get a few ‘likes’ for a change?

      • neece00

        I agree, bill has been here before and he is usually leaning the other way.

      • montanabill

        I thought the post was perfectly clear. I want him to keep up Romnesia, the war on women, save Big Bird, binders, and sandbagging Benghazi. Those are the important things this election is about.

        • WhutHeSaid

          Yes, like collecting canned goods for Hurricane Sandy. I’ll bet you are stocking up on the baby oil now, aren’t you Bill?

  • William Deutschlander

    Romney is a GRAVE DANGER to the United States of America and our DEMOCRACY!

    Romney is the King of DECEPTION and LIES!




      • neece00

        Yeah, goooo Romney…. Go back to where you came from.

        • viewfromtheleftcoast

          yeah, gooooo romney ….go back to where you came from….and where is that btw…..he’s back dated a tax return to disprove that he was actually a citizen of Utah (in order to be eligible to run for Gov. of MA) ( then while actually living in NH, he said he was living in his son’s “unfinished basement so he could register and vote in MA for brown) so where would he go back to? it’s like a where’s mario game

  • Mr. Romney may be held hostage by the extreme right and by those who spent so much money on his campaign if he is elected. I wonder whether he will be able to control those two groups. And, of course, the people of America will be the ones to suffer from that hostage situation.

    • Remember, Nordquist said their guy needs only to know how to hold a pen and sign on the dotted line. Romney won’t be able to control the extremists – but the extremists will be controlling Mitt Romney and the USA.

      • viewfromtheleftcoast

        not will be controlling…..are controlling…….he says one thing , then “the campaign” quickly corrects his statement……

  • We know, because all his real actions, Romney is the modern Benedict Arnold. God help us from this traitor to american workers and employees, if he is elected “boss” of USA.

  • nobsartist

    If willard gets in, the John Birch Society will be running America.

    • Are they an extension of the kkk? I heard they were – just not wearing bed sheets.


        What’s wrong with the KKK??

        • oldtack

          I would attempt to tell you All- Ass breath but you lack the intelligence to understand anything above four words in length.

        • WhutHeSaid

          The KKK is one of the many reasons why you are going straight to Hell. If that’s OK with you then have fun while you can.


    • Um … he still wants to shut FEMA down! He wouldn’t answer the question when asked, so you gotta assume he still wants FEMA gone.

  • nobsartist

    Where are willards tax returns?


      He has released them
      allllll that he needs to release!!!!!!!

      • WhutHeSaid

        Excuse me, Un-American — the nice men from the ‘home’ have arrived, and they have your favorite white jacket ready for you. Come along now, you don’t want to miss your meds, oh no!


          You LIBS are WIERD!!!!!!!!

          • oldtack

            Another four word sentence.

            But- this sentence is very revealing about the author – ALL ASS BREATH AMERICANNNNN..

            All Sane people seem weird to those that are hopelessly lost in La La Land.

          • Replying to ALLLLAMERICAN

            AND YOU ARE HILARIOUS!!!

      • nobsartist

        what is willard hiding?


          It’s NOBODYS business what his business is !!!!!!!!!!!

          It’s HIS money NOT yours

          • progressiveandproud

            Romney doesn’t need to release tax returns, yet you repubs. want Obama’s birth cert. (released), school records, social security records, etc.

            Double standard much?

      • oldtack

        Hot Damn All-Ass Breath!

        You managed to pen a 7 word sentence!

        All you people on this forum – Lets give All Ass a big applause. That’s quite an achievement for a mentally challenged Troll.

    • Mitt The Tax Cheat only released a summary of his 2011 tax returns. He has yet to release his tax returns. If I was as big a liar as Mitt Romney, I probably wouldn’t want to release my tax returns either.

    • viewfromtheleftcoast

      those tax returns would:

      state where he was living when he committed the federal crime of voter fraud during the 2010 election (up to five years in prison, [the fine would be no problem])

      would have his real (stated) income, and just maybe he hasn’t tithed his required $$ to his church (embarrassing, having been a bishop and all)

      where’s wikileaks when we need them

  • Romney/Mormonism, recently on the Thom Hartmann Program, I heard about the “”””””””””””The White Horse Prophecy””””””””””””””.
    I reasearched it and it could help explain why Romney flip-flops, lies, distorts, decieves through deception, distracts Americans from the real political issues and his purpose.
    He can’t help himelf….
    According to what I have read, Romney’s belief…in a Lie….is all that matters!
    And that if something good will come about from this falsehood, then was it truely a lie?

    Is this the new direction we want our Society to take? No, I think not!

    A President with this reckless, careless, opportunistic “Mentality”?????

    • nobsartist

      thats what all of the chicken hawks tell the chumps.

    • oldtack

      He is just a good devout “Bishop” of a distorted Tare Sect that masquerades as a part of the Christian Faith. A Tare Sect that refutes the New Testament and bars it from their followers. Their BIBLE is the BOOK OF MORMON inscribed on golden tablets and allegedly buried by the Prophet Moroni in a hill near Palmyra, New York in 371 AD and “uncovered” by Divine guidance by Joseph Smith in 1820. Joseph Smith deciphered the writing and the” golden tablets” mysteriously “disappeared”


      • neece00

        I understand where you are coming from old and the stories behind the tablets and Joseph Smith himself are unbelievable. Some of my ancestors came over this country into the Utah valley with Joseph Smith and my believe is that he was nothing but a con-man and a pervert.

  • jcbsdriver

    I believe that Obama was ready to debate the conservative Romney at the first debate and the moderate Romney showed up. Obama was thrown off by moderate Mitt and that was the exact plan that the real Romney had for quite some time. Obama was ready for moderate Mitt and conservative Mitt at the second debate because he wasn’t sure which Mitt would show up to debate. Mitt tried to nail the coffin shut with his “terrorist attack” wording over the Rose Garden speech and the FOX news nailgun he was using blew up in his face and ended up nailing him as ineffective. This mistake additionally made Obama appear two steps in front of his opponent while Mitt seemed like an immature understudy who didn’t get his way. The third debate highlighted Romney’s refusal to stand up for his own beliefs and policies he had been promoting for months and instead switch into a supporter of Obama’s policies.

    I know that we have seen conservative Romney, moderate Romney and agreeable Romney. The problem for Americans, republicans, Tea Party supporters, Romney’s wealthy donators, and Independents is no one knows who the real Romney is, who will occupy the Oval Office or which one of the many faces of Mitt will decide important issues; It could be another Romney we haven’t seen yet. Where would the unknown Mitt stand? Or is the unknown Mitt the real Mitt?

  • Bodine666

    A conservative, a moderate, and a liberal walked into a bar. The bartender said, “Hello, mitt.”

    • neece00

      great one, I might have to use it


  • Romnesia’s” definitely funny, but it misses the mark. Mitt’s less a flip-flopper than a particularly shameless opportunist. Writing in The New Republic, Alec MacGillis argues that the whole business of “framing” political opponents can be overdone anyway. “Ninety-nine times out of 100, the line of attack that works best is the one that really rings true.”//// what it dosent ring true that the ANTI-CHRIST ROMNEY is a flip floper like a bergga joint. and he changes his mind like new england weather it you dont like whjast he,s thinking or saying wait a min he will change . changes his mind so much he,d need a whole party to keep track of that he saion in the morning till noon time

  • ObozoMustGo

    Did you vote for Barack Obama in 2008? A lot of people did – obviously.

    What a time. There’s still room for improvement, but what a testimony to just how far we as a nation have come in terms of racial harmony, tolerance and diversity.

    Only decades earlier a man like Barack Obama – a black man – couldn’t even drink from the same water fountain as a white man, let alone become president of the United States. A hundred years prior to that, and he may well have been counted another man’s property.

    On Nov. 4, 2008, millions gathered at the ballot box to prove, once and for all, that, in large measure, we as a nation have healed from our disgraceful, self-inflicted wounds of racial abuse, bias and division.

    That we could elect an African-American to lead the free world is indeed a very good thing.

    We just happened to elect the wrong African-American.

    In life, we sometimes find that the idea of a thing is far better than the thing itself. As a boy, I once ordered, from a comic book, a pair of X-ray glasses that promised to allow me to see the bones beneath my hand (my motives were a bit more ignoble). The two weeks it took for the glasses to arrive seemed like an eternity.

    Once they did arrive, I ripped into the package and put them on, darting my head to-and-fro. It’s difficult to express my level of disappointment. As I quickly discovered, the glasses merely formed a halo effect around objects, creating the illusion of transparency. I felt embarrassed. I got took.

    Barack Obama’s presidency has been a halo effect. Like I did so many years ago, in 2008 America fell victim to false advertising. As the past four years have demonstrated beyond any serious debate, the idea of President Obama was far better than the reality of President Obama. We were promised the world. We were promised transparency; but we were sold an illusion. We got took.

    Indeed, during the 2008 campaign, a then-Sen. Barack Obama promised us that, if elected, we would look back upon the moment he took office and “tell our children that this was the moment when we began to provide care for the sick and good jobs to the jobless; this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal; this was the moment when we ended a war and secured our nation and restored our image as the last, best hope on earth.”

    That was the idea of President Obama. That was what many good, well-meaning people voted for. That was the hope offered and the change promised.

    That was not what we got.

    Though it’s certainly not a comprehensive analysis, during the second presidential debate, Mitt Romney, in response to Mr. Obama’s attempts to gloss over his mounting leadership failures, summarized a few of the big ones. While addressing an audience member who, perhaps like you, voted for Obama in 2008, Romney observed, in part, the following:

    I think you know better. I think you know that these last four years haven’t been so good as the president just described and that you don’t feel like you’re confident that the next four years are going to be much better either. …

    He said that, by now, we’d have unemployment at 5.4 percent. The difference between where it is and 5.4 percent is 9 million Americans without work. …

    He said he would have, by now, put forward a plan to reform Medicare and Social Security, because he pointed out they’re on the road to bankruptcy. He would reform them. He’d get that done. He hasn’t even made a proposal on either one.

    He said in his first year he’d put out an immigration plan that would deal with our immigration challenges. Didn’t even file it.

    This is a president who has not been able to do what he said he’d do. He said that he’d cut in half the deficit. He hasn’t done that either. In fact, he doubled it.

    He said that by now middle-income families would have a reduction in their health insurance premiums by $2,500 a year. It’s gone up by $2,500 a year. And if Obamacare is … implemented fully, it’ll be another $2,500. …

    The middle class is getting crushed under the policies of a president who has not understood what it takes to get the economy working again. … [T]he number of people who are still looking for work is still 23 million Americans.

    There are more people in poverty, one out of six people in poverty.

    How about food stamps? When he took office, 32 million people were on food stamps. Today, 47 million people are on food stamps. How about the growth of the economy? It’s growing more slowly this year than last year – and more slowly last year than the year before. …

    The president has tried, but his policies haven’t worked.

    Recently, my wife and I attended an outdoor festival in central Virginia. Although the event was not political, there were people from both the Obama and Romney camps handing out campaign stickers and other items. I suspect that if a poll were taken, liberals out-numbered conservatives by about two-to-one.

    That’s why I was so taken aback. Although we saw dozens of people wearing Romney stickers, we only saw one man wearing an Obama sticker.

    We walked up to a fellow with a gray pony tail, John Lennon glasses and Birkenstocks. He was wearing a Romney sticker.

    “Mind if I ask why you’re voting for Mitt Romney?” I asked. “I assume you are.”

    His reply – and these were his words, not mine – was short and to the point: “Because I refuse to be that stupid twice.”

    Changing one’s mind doesn’t always reveal a tendency toward indecision. Sometimes, changing one’s mind reveals a tendency toward wisdom.

    Have a nice day!

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency…Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” – Czech Republic newspaper Prager Zeitung

    • I hear all your garbage, nobody’s buying it, yours or Mitt’s. Maybe he didn’t or couldn’t acomplish all that he said that he would in the four years, but i’m glad he’ll have another four years to try!!!!! Obama/Biden 2012

    • WhutHeSaid

      That was a very entertaining story that you told — I hope your fingers aren’t tired from typing it.

      My goodness, you hit so many of the talking points — where to start?

      Oh yes, your description of a disgruntled liberal was amusing: “We walked up to a fellow with a gray pony tail, John Lennon glasses and Birkenstocks.”.

      Oh, and the preemptive disavowal of racism: “That we could elect an African-American to lead the free world is indeed a very good thing.”.

      Or the lesson that you learned by buying a pair of mail-order ‘X-Ray’ glasses to see little Susie’s underwear.

      Perhaps you’d be better off if you still had those X-Ray glasses. Then perhaps you could tell people why they should vote for Romney, utilizing the phoney glasses as the mechanism that allows you to see what Romney really believes when nobody else can. Like Romney himself you are relying on attacking Obama in any way that you can, mostly blaming him for not digging out of GW’s mess fast enough, instead of offering up some solid reasons that people should vote for a man who changes his positions more often than he changes his underwear.

      You haven’t told us your reasons for supporting Romney. I must assume that, at this point, you don’t want to be nailed down to any specifics since Romney’s position on any given issue will very likely change by tomorrow. All you do is endlessly bash Obama. Until you can come up with some plausible reasons backed by actual facts, I’ll just believe that you are an extraordinarily gifted lying bigot. You’ve given me no reason to believe otherwise.

      No matter how elaborate the lie, it still has to pass the ‘smell test’. Your story, as colorful as it is, still stinks.

      • ObozoMustGo

        what… Obozo has been in office for 4 years. It’s his record that’s on trial. In fact, it’s the record of all of you DemonRAT morons on trial. It’s NOT just the demoRATS inability to provide a single “Exhibit A” wherein government EVER created economic prosperity… not at all—it’s that the democrats voluntarily ignore specific history lesson after specific history lesson that proves the contrary.

        Seemingly ‘determined to follow Greece’ down the economic toilet, our debt & deficit under the DemonRAT rule have EXPLODED. A child born ‘today’ already owes over $50,000…before it takes a single breath.

        And they want to spend more?

        Since Obozo took office

        1.Gas prices up 107%
        2.Groceries up 20%
        3.Food Stamp participation up 65%
        4.Welfare up 32%
        5.Health Insurance premiums up over $2500 per family
        6.Household Income DOWN over $4000

        HISTORY CORRECTION: The demonRAT’s most reasonable argument — that “Obozo inherited all of this mess from Bush”— is probably the most widely believed ‘lie’ in modern history.

        Anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of Government 101 KNOWS that since January 2007 (following the 2006 Elections) the demonRATS have been in control of ‘the federal government’s pocketbook’ -with at minimum ‘blocking’ power’—and for two years they even held a SUPER MAJORITY…the Royal Flush of political power.

        But most importantly, when the democrats took over in 2007, they inherited a 4.6% unemployment rate from the republicans.

        You see.The Republicans could be running a fire hydrant against Obozo and I’d vote for the fire hydrant. It would do less damage. And we have a record to prove it.

        Have a nice day!

        “When Obozo called the SEALs, they got Bin Laden. When the SEALs called Obozo, they got denied.” – Navy SEAL’s Facebook posting that was censored

        • viewfromtheleftcoast

          on democrats and prosperity…… look it up ….you’ll be more careful the next time you make that statement

        • WhutHeSaid

          Just what I thought: Not a single reason to vote for Romney, just Fox News talking points bashing Obama.

          Debunking lies like yours used to take a bit of work, but these days one has the world at their fingertips (the Internet).

          As Bill Clinton stated, since 1961 Democratic administrations have presided over the creation of more than 42 million private sector jobs vs. 24 million for Republican administrations. It’s interesting to also note that Republicans oversaw more of an increase in public sector employment vs. Democrats, highlighting the fact that when Republicans claim to want smaller government they are usually lying.

          This year seems to usher in a new level of lying, with Mitt Romney telling lie after lie without shame. I’ve never witnessed a Presidential candidate lie so much, and I’ve seen a lot of them.

          All of your talking points are attacks against a President who didn’t clean up the GOP mess fast enough. None — NOT ONE — of your ‘facts’ cannot be at least mostly attributed to the cataclysmic failures of George Bush.

          I know you are a bigot. You know you are a bigot. This is, of course, your REAL problem with Obama. But for those who might still be giving you the benefit of the doubt, spell out your reasons for supporting Mitt Romney that don’t have anything to do with GW’s mess.

          This is a test to see if you are as talented a lying bigot as you believe yourself to be.

          • ObozoMustGo

            what… it’s all laid out there for you to see. These are FACTS that are indesputable. Obozo’s record is his own indictment. This is why he talks endlessly about pointless crap like contraception. He has nothing else to talk about.

            As you know, every election is a both a vote FOR one person, and AGAINST another, sometimes of varying degrees between them. So you ask, why vote for Romney?…………
            – Because I know Obozo’s record of failure.
            – Because I know Obozo has Marxist beliefs and I know Romney does not.
            – Because I know Obozo has let the Muzzy Brotherhood infiltrate our government with his knowledge and support, and Romney will not.
            – Because I know Obozo believes in redistribution and punitive taxation while Romney believes in a flatter, fairer tax system that will inspire economic growth.
            – Because Obozo wouldn’t know how to run a business any better than he knows how to flap his arms and fly, while Romney knows how to take failing businesses and turn them around. America is a failing business from Bush’s and Obozo’s stewardship, and Romney needs to turn it around.
            – Because Obozo constantly divides America and pits one group or class against the other while playing on your sense of jealousy and envy for his own good. Romney will not.

            That’s a lot of reasons to vote FOR Romney and AGAINST Obozo. And you can admit that you made a mistake 4 years ago and it’s OK to change your mind this time around. It doesn’t make you a bad guy. It makes you a sensible and smarter guy.

            Have a nice day!

            “Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville

          • WhutHeSaid

            I’m afraid that you’re just not very convincing without your old X-Ray glasses. Do they still offer them? It’s the best chance you have of ever convincing anyone other than a fellow bigot.

        • Replying to ObozoMustGo




          And it is mathematically impossible to reduce the deficit by cutting benefits alone. Not to mention the moral argument about “WHATSOEVER YOU DO TO THE LEAST OF THESE, SO YOU DO UNTO ME.”

          So much for the Christian Right.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Jimmy… 7 comments:

            1) You leftist freaks constantly confuse revenues and spending. You love to blame tax rates for your profligate spending, but that dog only hunts in Moronville where all of you useful idiots exist.

            2) There is no such thing as a tax cut, only tax rates that are paid by people that sacrifice their time to earn a living. It’s a huge ongoing lie. The other lie is that you leftist freaks cannot understand that no matter what tax rates are, revenues to the Fed always work out to be about 19% of the economy. And when rates drop, revenues go up. This has happened every single time in our history.

            3) The real issue is spending in relation to total economic output. Traditionally, that spending has been in the 19% to 20% of GDP. Under Obozo, it’s now approaching 26%. This is why the debt has exploded under Obozo.

            4) You leftist freak morons seem to think that Obozo’s nearly TRILLION dollar “stimulus” was not spending, and instead blame that on Bush, too. Obozo spent it and then baselined annual spending with that amount built in. This is where the debt has come from.

            5) How can you leftist freaks blame Bush for his spending (which I agree with you on) and then give Obozo a pass for being 2 times as bad? Mind boggling indeed.

            6) You want to talk about moral arguments? OK! How is immoral for me to want to keep the fruits of my labor, yet it is moral for you to empower the government to confiscate my earnings at the threat of jail time for the purpose of serving what YOU deem charitable? How is it moral that government claims nearly 50% of my time (my earnings) without my choice? That is slavery when someone else has a claim on the fruits of my labor against my will. How am I greedy when I want to keep my own earnings, but your not greedy when you want MY earnings?

            7) You leftist freaks love to use religion as an excuse for confiscation of my earnings, yet you ignore the fact that religious living and charity are INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIORS, NOT COLLECTIVE. You see, you leftist freaks love this concept of “collective salvation” and even Obozo has given a speech on this crap concept. But it’s not true. If you are a Jew or Christian, you know your salvation depends upon your own individual behavior, not the behavior of others. If you are not a Jew or Christian, I have no idea what you believe in other than your messiah, Obozo.

            Have a nice day!

            “It is above all in the present democratic age that the true friends of liberty and human grandeur must remain constantly vigilant and ready to prevent the social power from lightly sacrificing the particular rights of a few individuals to the general execution of its designs. In such times there is no citizen so obscure that it is not very dangerous to allow him to be oppressed, and there are no individual rights so unimportant that they can be sacrificed to arbitrariness with impunity.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville

    • DemCommonSense

      “Bozo” pulled those republican talking points off of Fox “News”, which is Mitt’s research library.

    • Obozo you are an ignorant, scared, racist so your rant is just that – a rant. Btw, I think we would be electing the “wrong white American” if Romney wins. See how ignorant that sentence sounds? Go take your prozac or whatever anti-depressant is in your medicine cabinet, cause dude, you need your meds!


        Anybody that yells out RACIST RACIST RACIST is a racist themselves!!!!!!!!!

        We would love to have BLACK HERMAN CAIN to be our President—-and he is BLACK!!!!!!!!!!!

        Then what would you Libs be saying??

        • WhutHeSaid

          YOU will be black after you’ve roasted in Hell for a while due to all of your ridiculous whoppers.

    • *OBAMA 2012* !!!! Original-Brave-Awesome-Magnificent-American!!!!

      • ObozoMustGo

        Regina Light-turd…. you must be the only child in your family to get out of 4th grade. Tell me, have you met all of your brothers’ and sisters’ fathers? I’ll bet you’re one of 11 with 8 different sires.

        Remain oblivious.

        Have a nice day!

        “The difference between being stupid and being a fool: A stupid person at least has an idea about their own inadequacies. The fool is oblivious to them, and is more inclined to believe their own fantasies and lies as truth.” – ObozoMustGo

        • WhutHeSaid

          Methinks you should worry about your own personal life first. I just saw your sister leaving your trailer park in her best T-shirt. I believe she may be cheating on you.

        • Are you angry, *Totally Undeniable Retarded Dick*! Tell daddy I said hi; and I’m waiting for my back child support payments! Oh! Get your whoring mammy off the street corner, she’s holding up traffic!

    • viewfromtheleftcoast

      WOW! now we know, you are a bigot. To think that President Obama won the election because he was black and the electorate had to prove something, really? And you voted for McCain and Palin because?????

    • Cairndance

      WOW, who wrote this for you?

  • ObozoMustGo

    It’s OK to change your vote from Obozo to Romney or someone else this year. You don’t have to feel like you must justify your past stupidity by making the same mistakes again. It’s honorable to change your mind and admit that voting for Obozo in 2008 was a mistake. Many were suckered. It’s OK to admit.

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    Have a nice day!

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency…Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” – Czech Republic newspaper Prager Zeitung

    • ExPAVIC

      Obozo You Clown

      Take your meds and shut up. You moron.

    • WhutHeSaid

      Yes, and it’s also OK to vote for Obama again just for the sheer satisfaction of slapping the slavering bigots back down into the dirt — where they belong.


        What’s wrong with Slavery???

        • viewfromtheleftcoast

          that really is not funny!

        • oldtack

          Another four word piece of blather. I had hope for you but now realize that you are – HOPELESS!!

          Go have a good day- if you are capable of doing so.

        • WhutHeSaid

          What are you — about 12? Does you mommy know you’re out here telling whoppers? I’ll bet she’d beat your ass if she knew!

    • WOW! The *TURD* is back! “Totally Undeniable Retarded Dick”!

    • So I w onder when ObozoMustGo is moving to Canada? Before or after November 6th? Since you hate our President so deeply, and it has nothing to do with his policies whatsoever, what will you do when Obama wins re-election? Will you remain sitting on the sidelines, in the peanut gallery whining and complaining like most of the GOP, showing your sour grapes and bigotry or will you defect to another country all together? What will Obozo do?


        The ONLY way obama will win this time is through FRAUD (like last time)

        ANYBODY—–ANYBODY AT ALL THAT WE TALK TO HATES obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • progressiveandproud

          You must not talk to many people.


            WELLLLLLL—–I do NOT live in California or Chicago

            Everyone that lives where I live



            HATES HIM

          • viewfromtheleftcoast

            deep in the heart of dixie???

          • oldtack

            are you one of those slack jawed red necks from Waaay Doooown Soouth or one of the nut jobs from northern Idaho and the upper West Coast?

        • viewfromtheleftcoast

          you don’t get out much do you?

        • oldtack

          You are talking to the wall so all you hear are echoes of your own deluded mind.


      • Cairndance

        I’m pretty sure OBOZO and ALLLL haven’t come up with a new statement in months! You are right, they need to both leave the country next week and stay whereever they land. Although I’m not sure Canada would accept them.

        All of my Canadian friends love Obama (especially after Bush) and don’t understand that so many Americans seem to think Romney is ok!

    • AdamMos

      Where did you go?
      Looks like you are the Bozo , now.
      See ya, Loser!

  • devilindetail

    No one can win the Presidency who embraces an extreme agenda either to the right or left. Obama couldn’t in 2008 and neither can Romney in 2012. Thus, Romney’s tacking to the center should not have been unexpected — in fact it should have been anticipated. The greatest mistake Obama made was spending all his effort to portray Romney in the most negative light possible instead of spending more time portraying himself as OPTIMISTIC about his plan for America.

    In 1984, Reagan was also in a similar spot to Obama. Huge record deficits, an economy that was still pulling out of a bad recession and a foreign policy that was questionable (guns for hostages in Iran, illegal funneling of arms to Iran and money to Contra rebels and support of a Guatemalan military dictatorship that employed death squads to kill its own people). Yet Reagan won 98% of the electoral college that year and 58% of the popular vote. How? He simply out shined Walter Mondale by being what he did best — an optimist. His most potent ad was one about “It is morning in America”. Google it and see. It paints a very optimistic view of America’s future.

    We never saw anything very optimistic this campaign season. What we saw were very negative ads and reasons why we shouldn’t vote for the other guy. We heard little about how the stimulus bill helped, Obamacare will fix, changes in education have enhanced or the foreign policy efforts have improved things for the US. The positive aspects of what the Obama administration achieved and how it will improve things in the future was largely ignored when it should have been highlighted. The end result is Romney shifted to the Center and suddenly didn’t look so scary. Now those undecideds (who haven’t paid much attention to the political theater all year) think maybe Romney will do something different than Obama to improve the economy and the US. That error is what has made this election tight when Obama should be going away with an easy win next week.

  • Thank you, stoptheinsanity..when you said Romney definitely neede to be characterized as a political opportunist and a flip-fopper because that is exactly what he is….that statement there tells me you have not taken your eyes off of this man’s character and what he really is a “narcissistic personality”…the con-artist or the actor that he is when he is in front of an audience…that is the way…he can say things to some of the, they will not stay focused on what is character is from within…at least you have not been swayed by his cunning ways to get your eyes off of what kind of man he really is…and that “fuzzy math” of his..that adds up wrong…he is into the “me” generation it is all about Mitt..not anyone else..that is evident when he had Paul Ryan reveal his tax reports as many as he did..and the rules of the game changed for Mitt…he figures he doesn’t have to reveal his tax returns as others have done…that is the biggest form of deception when a person hides things as he has from the american people…and the way he flip-flops with what he says…he is double-minded as keep people guessing as to what kind of person he really is..and just what his plans are for amercia…very unstable..

  • I hope Obama with a successful election as I’m sure he will have, wipes that smirk off of Romney’s face

    • Cairndance

      During the final debate, My Mother got so angry looking at Romney’s smirk, that she fell out of her wheelchair! After I got her up off the floor, I reminded her she could have just changed the channel!
      She wanted to listen to Obama but couldn’t get past the smirky Romney!

  • zeldaq

    you are ALL right. i honestly think that romney, and ryan lie so much, that they actually believe the lie that they are telling at the time. i just hope enough voters see them for what they really are.
    GREEDY RACISTS. i am an old white man, and the republican party sometimes makes me ashamed of my race.

    • ExPAVIC

      Me Too

      A Republican for a long time until I got back from the Vietnam War. Even a “Young American for Freedom (YAF) while in college.

      But after Nixon, what the hell happened to the Republican Party? And, where do they come up the likes of Cain, Perry, Santorum, Bachmann, Gingrich, and Mittens to be representative of conservative thought?

      These whack jobs are nothing but the empty headed voices of the Old, Old, used up GOP which is about to croak and be buried. Where do we send flowers?

      • SibyllasStuff

        The last REAL Republican (as I used to tell visitors who came to the Little White School House – here in Ripon, WI) was Eisenhower. And he tried to warn the American public about the industrial war complex.

        • ExPAVIC


          All said and done, George wouldn’t even vote for Mitt since he is so far right.

  • 2hheels2

    As a upper middle class white American, I just don’t understand anyone voting for a liar like Romney. The lies he tells are so blatant, this has got to be the most dishonest campaign I have ever seen in my lifetime. The hatred and racism coming from my old party the republican party has lost it mind and bearing. As an independent voter now the only honest choice in this election is the Obama administration. The nation can’t afford Romney and his agenda and bad policies. The bush people that advise Romney should scare every American in its self enough not to vote for him.

  • What’s so insulting about this campaign is there are people who are stupid enough to believe Misfit Romney’s lies! He flip flops too mouch for me! If his ass is elected in office, I know I am relocating to Canada! The man already stated what he’s about and there are those who are stupied enough to believe him! Tsk Tsk Tsk! Wake up people! Don’t allow us to go back to the times of Reaganomics/George W.Bush?!


      What is insulting in this campaign is there are STILL people that want obama in office after allll the spending—failures—-lies—- cover-ups—-BENGHAZI—Libya—-letting 800,000 illegal’s in Free– NOT believing in our Constitution and illegally pushing bills through. Being on the Terrorist side —-NOT keeping our COUNRTY SAFE and a COMMUNIST!!!!!!!!!!
      Having a GAAAAAY President

      • progressiveandproud

        Wow, aren’t you an angry little soldier. Perhaps you should read and listen to more varied sources of news. All I hear you spouting is Repub. lies and foolishness.


          That’s RIGHT———-

          I am SICK of these obama LOVERS!!!!!!!!!

          I am SICK of everyone having their hands out wanting FREEEEEE

          I am SICK of Record High 46-MILLION PEOPLE ON FOOD STAMPS!!!!

          I am SICK of obama’s Lying Schemes and Lying about LIBYA AND YOU IDIOT MORON LIBS BELIEVE IT ALLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • viewfromtheleftcoast

            you are in some deep , deep well of disbelief,
            or you are a bored, bored individual who gets his kicks out of posting such trash and seeing it in print

          • oldtack

            In the realms of Psychology and Psychiatry your four disjointed babbling sentences would make for “very interesting” research. concerning your inner being.

            Unstable at the very best.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Either that or possessed by Satan. Picture a 12-year old typing ridiculous whoppers on a keyboard while her head spins in circles — that’s what you’re dealing with here.


            you LIBS are the unstable people!!!!!!!!!!

            Take care of yourself

            Forget the Government

            Get a job and support yourself

            DO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!!

            MAKE SOMETHING OF YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • oldtack

            All A

            When it comes down to net worth – without any knowledge of your life I would venture that I could buy you twice over and still have quite a bit to sustain me.
            And I got mine the good old American way – I worked my ass off for it and made wise investments and planned for a good retirement. I follow the advice of Dave Ramsey. I am debt free in all aspects and have two nice homes and a farm plus investments.

            How about you my right wing nut job friend?

            And- I’m concerned about that violent display of hatred for homosexuals. That reveals a serious problem with your identity. Hmm? Talk to a Psychologist – maybe you can be helped.

      • oldtack

        Do you have some bias against Gays. In Psychology this would be “very revealing”.



          I HATE GAAAAAAAYSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mitt Romney is like Forest Gump ” Mitt is like a box Chocolate you never know what lie you are going to get

  • After seeing the disaster of Obama’s last 4 years, the debt, the spending, the sneaking through legislation with control of Congress, the Un-Constitutional Amnesty, the cover-up in Benghazi; how can you people still support him??? Romney has the qualifications, the experience, & the knowledge to manage this country as a President should, not try to change & transform it into something we are not and never were.

    • Lin

      Ha, laundry list of (false) Republican Talking Points. You get an F for creativity.

    • viewfromtheleftcoast

      and just where do you think we would be if we followed the bush admin with mccain and palin?

  • Jeff Bottaro

    Optimism is a disease that will be cured by truth. One of the most pervasive cultural weaknesses of America is its optimism, which turns out to be a very fragile construct in changing time, as it creates DISSONANCE with truth, and, consequently, STRESS.
    Waving the banner of one’s optimism at election time has, in conventional wisdom, always been deemed to be advantageous. The only problem with this is that conventional wisdom has not been working lately. AMERICA NEEDS A WINSTON CHURCHILL.


      you are RIGHT with alll your FACTS!!!!!!!!!!

      • viewfromtheleftcoast

        do a little research…don’t they have libraries in Dixie? or are they censored? keeping facts out?

        • WhutHeSaid

          Un-American doesn’t get out of the trailer park much.

    • viewfromtheleftcoast

      It was Regan’s optimism that won him the second term, remember “it’s morning in America”?

  • harrietbenjamin

    I don’t understand why the democrats don’t run Mitt’s view of FEMA over and over in media ads.

    I will also bet anyone $100.00 that New York and New Jersey etc will be re-built much faster than Katrina victums have seen in Lousiana and Mississippi.


      Hopefully they NEVER rebuilt New York!!!!!!!

      Alllll it is, is a bunch of LIBS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • progressiveandproud

        By LIBS!!!!!!, I take it you mean well-educated, patriotic, freedom loving Americans who want a well functioning government and country that lives up to its promises.

        Thank you!


          Noooooot NEW YORKERS!!!!!! FAR FROM IT!!!!!!!

          • viewfromtheleftcoast

            you really are from dixie land!!!

          • oldtack

            Another five word sentence – with a plethora of !!!!!!.


  • Lin

    The benefit of being on both sides of an issue – you can always say you were right.

  • Joe Narusiewicz

    When Chrysler and GM both condemn a ad by Romney concerning lies about jeep and the car industry concerning jobs being shipped to China you know Romney is diminished. When Governor Chris Christie a key note republican speaker at the republican convention praises President Obama for his excellent support with FEMA and the federal support given to the devastation of hurricane Sandy while Romney recently said he was against FEMA and wanting these federal programs cut and given to the states you know he is in trouble and running out of lies. What gets me is when are some of the moderate voices in the republican party going to let go of him like Colin Powell had the courage to do. This party rejections hispanics, blacks etc. This party has become a radical right wing party losing its grip with reality and they have a candidate who now is a out and out liar.

    • viewfromtheleftcoast

      you know Joe, Christie is still a politician. Oh I believe he loves the job he has now and loves his state, and will probably win his election next year (then termed out). I also believe he is a self promoting politician looking long term (remember his keynote at the R convention?)

  • viewfromtheleftcoast

    sure he will, he’ll just say, “I didn’t say that, you’re wrong” and the right media will say, “see, he never said that, it’s just more left lies” and it will be said over and over and over again with 20.1 millions dollars on air….

  • viewfromtheleftcoast

    talk his way out of it….yep, he will, with millions and millions of dollars in ads

  • smartdee

    There are several things that I will never understand…one, how people can become so brainwashed and two, how they can behave like school children on a playground when throwing barbs at one another about each candidate. No one could expect a president to straighten out the mess that GW left in a couple of years, especially without the cooperation of Congress. It seems everyone ignores that fact. Also, when a candidate changes his stance on issues as frequently as a model changes clothes, how likely is he concrete on his ideals or is he simply saying what the voters want to hear in order to become elected and carry out the agenda of the Tea Party and the wealthy. If you are middle class, you had better think long and hard about these things, because if Mitt gets in office, you all will pay dearly. It will not be pretty.

  • notafoxfan

    it is very sad, but the “trojan horse” title of this piece is very applicable..the republicans/tea partyers will do any thing and everything to oust obama and get their man into office,even though he really has no platform of his own..he is merely a puppet who espouses whatever the right hand campaign manager says for him to say to any given audience..he has no can see it in his eyes and in his plastic puppet smile..he lies depending upon the audience he has..if he is elected, the “trojan horse”, as in the mythology, will open up and all of the cheneys, and roves and koch brothers and fox news anchors will come tumbling out…we can hope obama will win!!!

    • ThyGeekGoddess

      He has a very clear agenda …SAVE THE SHIP!
      And if you had been paying attention to the man, you’d see what he plans for next…but the mental minutians can’t grasp it anyway….and no, it’s hardly a liberal agenda. He’s more of a raging moderate like me….trying to restore the balance. When troubleshooting a problem, the best place to look is when it last kinda worked and you have to go back about 60 years to know what that is. Knowing where reganomics screwed the country is a good place to go next.

      • WhutHeSaid

        If you are speaking of Eisenhower, it’s interesting to note that his granddaughter recently endorsed Obama. Also, if you believe that having at least 47% of America walk the plank is ‘saving the ship’, then I suppose you have a point — although I’d liken it to an opportunistic captain leaping to the helm after Obama navigated out of the storm, repelled the pirates, and bailed out all of the seawater.

        I agree that Reaganomics ‘screwed the country’, but Reagan would blush at how far the GOP has gone down this sordid path. What Romney has offered before his latest weather-vane ‘spin’ is to repeat this failure on an even grander scale. Anybody who hasn’t learned their lesson from the Bush debacle should be tied to the yardarm and lashed with a cat o’ nine tails.

  • oldtack

    Some of my wife’s ancestors went to “New Zion” in 1848 under the leadership od Elder Jones who was sent to escort the Saints from Mississippi to “New Zion”. This was the McKown/Lockhart families of her lineage plus many others. My wife’s GG Grandmother died in Wyoming Territory before crossing over into Utah and was buried on the Trail. Her husband, Francis McKown refused to follow the Elder opting instead to stay there with his wife’s grave until the following year. I guess he was dropped from membership for disobedience sine there is no record of his ever having been a member except for the notation as Brother McKown in the ledger of Elder Jones. However all of the Lockhart families are recorded. One of my wife’s ancestors , Haden Welles Church was baptized by Joseph smith and was one of the first Bishops. So – we are well acquainted with this Sect.
    Bright side of the story – Francis McKown nad a son went on to California to seek for Gold. They were sucessful in their endeavor and took their gold on one of Vanderbilts ships down to Central America then across to the Atlantic and back to Mississippi very well-to-do and affluent Townsmen. Don’t know about those who lived in Utah.


  • Paul Edward

    Surprise! Surprise! Surprise! Romney flip flops again-this time in less than 24 hrs. Last year in one of the primary debates, Romney strongly took the position that FEMA should be privatized and best be run by corporate interests. Yesterday, he was hounded by the media in Ohio if you still stands by that irresponsible assertion. Today, he finally came out and said as President, he would fully fund FEMA!!! Unbelievable! This man will say anything to anyone at anytime to get votes. I have studied politics for decades and this is the first presidential election, where I honestly have no idea what this filthy rich poor excuse of a candidate really believes in!!!! If the American people actually elect this guy, I will be totally dumbfounded!!!!

    • ExPAVIC

      G.W. Bush Again

      If the people elect RoMoney, the British will again observe “How can so many Americans be so stupid?” like they did after Bush was re-elected.

  • Yes Romney Is So Fake!!! He Got Millions And $5,000 Is All He Can Come Up With????

  • Yes $5,000 Dollars When You Got Millions??? Sad!!!

  • peteserb

    We of the USA would rather have a Mormon, rather than the moron we now have. Remember Fort Hood and Bengazhi!

    • If your Mormon moron wins, you’ll see a lot more attacks by extremist groups.

    • ExPAVIC


      Non-combatant, pacifist, missionary Mormons excite you? Read the Book of Mormon and get back to me.

      The Al Qaeda have read it and they are salivating in their coos coos.

    • We of the USA would rather have a man who is close to our hearts and not to a Mormon who lies. He is now in trouble with the federal Government filing claims against Romney for not releasing money he got from GM and their closing and the 2,000% profit they made off of the restart od GM. Such shame.

  • It literally does not matter what Mitt Romney says.. about anything.

    His words–and I mean all of them–can be categorized thusly:

    1) Whatever gets him a direct benefit

    2) Whatever discredits his critics

    3) Whatever helps him avoid facing the consequences of his actions

    4) Whatever lets him take credit for others’ work.

  • ridemybroom

    Mitt is the piece of shit in which the horse galloped on and forgot about…most Americans should learn how to do this as well…enuff said…!!

  • dalnb

    America went on the auction block when the Supreme Court ruled anyone can donate asmuch as they want to political campaigns. We will end up with more “Bought and Paid” for politicians in Washington than any other time in history.

    Look for elected oficials to have “Second” offices in Washington with their primary offices in the homes of the most wealthy; on Wall Street, in the Las Vegas casino and the guest homes of those who bought the persons way into Washington!

    Lets hope there are enough Good and honorablecoters who hold our political process sacred who vote for the people!

    Obama – Of the People for the People!
    Romney- Of the Wealthy for the Wealthy!

  • Instead of faulting Obama, Lyons might do well to question why it’s been so hard for the D.C. media to call Romney’s lies what they are, lies…instead of couching them as “controversial” or “contentious” etc. A little actual truth-telling by the media might make for a far more fact-focused election process.

  • rofl Libs melting down and going into an anti-speech frenzy.

    • …how you feelin there kiddo?….LOL

      OBAMA won!….now, take your ball and go home like a good boy!