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Monday, March 25, 2019

During a Thursday morning appearance on MSNBC’s Morning Joe, former Newsweek editor-in-chief Jon Meacham offered an incredibly silly criticism of President Obama’s plan to use executive orders to advance his agenda, when he picked two of the worst possible examples to “prove” his point that such a move would be unprecedented.

“We make fun of the executive orders and that is in fact something that — you know, you never really heard Lincoln and FDR say, ‘I’m going to rebuild America on an executive order,” Meacham told hosts Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezkinski. “You know, it’s not something that resonates off the tongue.”

Of course, as Meacham — who won a Pulitzer Prize in 2008 for his biography of Andrew Jackson — should know, this is completely and obviously false. Franklin Delano Roosevelt issued more executive orders than any other president in the 20th century, as this chart from MSNBC’s Maddow Blog makes clear (note that President Obama ranks last, with just 168 executive orders throughout his first five years in office).

Maddow Blog Executive Orders Chart

As for Abraham Lincoln, it doesn’t take a history expert to know that he literally attempted to rebuild a war-torn America via executive orders — including, most famously, the Emancipation Proclamation.

Meacham’s odd attack against President Obama’s promise to use executive orders in precisely the same way his predecessors did — except with lesser frequency — fits neatly with a pattern that has emerged throughout Obama’s time in office. Whether it’s issuing executive orders, or making recess appointments, or nominating judges to fill vacancies on federal courts, or utilizing the NSA, the president’s critics have become alarmingly eager to throw historical precedent out the window in the name of crafting a good political burn.

Screenshot: MSNBC

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18 responses to “WATCH: Jon Meacham Offers The Worst Criticism Of Obama’s Executive Orders”

  1. Independent1 says:

    “Meacham’s odd attack against President Obama’s promise to use executive orders in precisely the same way his predecessors did — except with lesser frequency — fits neatly with a pattern that has emerged throughout Obama’s time in office. Whether it’s issuing executive orders, or making recess appointments, or nominating judges to fill vacancies on federal courts, or utilizing the NSA, the president’s critics have become alarmingly eager to throw historical precedent out the window in the name of crafting a good political burn.”

    In other words, Obama’s detractors are more than willing to lie at every possible chance.

    • Sand_Cat says:

      It seems to me that many of those critics are too stupid and ignorant to understand historical precedent, though many of those would no doubt prefer the plausible-sounding lie even if they did.

      • Independent1 says:

        This guy won a Pulitzer prize, he’s not stupid; he was deliberately distorting the truth or lying; he could have easily pointed out that Obama has used the EO far less often than FDR and virtually every other previous president since 1900.

        • sigrid28 says:

          Agreed. I thought he was sucking up to Joe on his morning program in the hopes of being asked on the program again.

        • Sand_Cat says:

          I was actually referring to the trolls here and the GOP members of Congress rather than Meacham on whom I agree with you. I did try to indicate that there is a lot of lying and dishonesty going on.

          • daniel bostdorf says:

            Trolls here are—I am not paranoia—are “paid” to post propaganda….the tactic is Rove’s …..

      • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh says:

        Even better. This guy wrote the Biography of Andrew Jackson – a President who probably abused the power of his office more than any other except for Thomas Jefferson and Richard Nixon.

    • sigrid28 says:

      Meacham just joins other false equivalency fanciers among journalists struggling to find something–anything–slightly controversial to say. Thank goodness the Obama administration seems very deep on expertise and won’t waste valuable time even countering this silliness. Maddow’s chart is all this shallow speaking (I would not even to call it “thinking”) deserves. Let’s get on with covering in detail the major problems Obama’s team is tackling this year.

    • daniel bostdorf says:

      DEad on mi amigo!:

      “In other words, Obama’s detractors are more than willing to lie or distort the truth at every possible opportunity.”

      see above…

  2. Lynda Groom says:

    Fortunately for Meacham he has come forward with a couple of interesting quotes regarding his morning Joe remarks.

    ‘I’ve had worse mornings, I’ve said dumber things, but I can’t remember when.’

    ‘At best imprecise and at worst just plain wrong.’

    This one is my favorite ‘There’s an ideological component and an historical component, and there’s the fact that I wasn’t making any sense.’

    Seems the historian sees the error of his ways. Maybe he will be more careful next time on the talk shows.

  3. daniel bostdorf says:

    Winning a Pulitzer is not an excuse to be considered the go to guy to comment on Obama>>>

    Seymore Hersh mean anything?

    Check out this doozy from this “winner.”

    Article: Not ONE word of official account of raid that killed Bin Laden is true, claims award-winning journalist Seymour Hersh …The Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist says that raid which killed Osama Bin Laden in 2011 is ‘one big lie’….He says the US media is too ‘afraid’ to pick on Obama

    Hersh, 76, says the solution is to shut down news networks like NBC and ABC …He also suggested the firing of 90 per cent of mainstream editors

    Read more:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2436610/Pathetic-Award-winning-journalist-Seymour-Hersh-slams-American-press-challenging-US-governments-LIES-Bin-Laden-raid.html#ixzz2rw6QUYdi

    Meacham is the offspring of Hersh…

  4. charles king says:

    I do not know about you Meacham, Whats? going down with You and the Pres. I thought You had got over the out-brust that you caused befor on Morning Joe, Who’s? pulling your coat tail, think Man, You are being Used.The People are on the side of the Pres. You do not have a chance in getting your point across because the People know Where? you are coming from Jealousy gets you no-where. Why? dont you run for President of these United States of America. Thank You are the magic words in my book. I Love Ya All. Check -Out Webster’s Dict. Democracy VS Plutocracy. Mr. C. E. KING

    • daniel bostdorf says:

      Plutocracy: government by the richest people : a country that is ruled by the richest people: a group of very rich people who have a lot of power (another central element of Fascism)…..Koch brothers?

      Oligarchy: a country, business, etc., that is controlled by a small group of people: the people that control a country, business, etc.: government or control by a small group of people (the essential element of fascism)…..The 3%….

      Police State: a political unit characterized by repressive governmental control of political, economic, and social life usually by an arbitrary exercise of power by police and especially secret police in place of regular operation of administrative and judicial organs of the government according to publicly known legal procedures . NSA anyone?

      • charles king says:

        Thank You Mr. D. Stdorf, I could not have found the words without your Probing, Thank You are the magic words with me. I Love Ya All Those are some knowledgable Words, and frightful too.

  5. Daniel Jones says:

    HISTORY isn’t YOUR story, you lying jerks. Get a damned clue.

    That the man tried this just a couple of years after Daniel Day Lewis made a GREAT big deal out of the Proclamation with “Lincoln” shows that Republicans remain the Great Deniers.

  6. charles king says:

    In this discussion Of (Critical Thinking) Plutocracy, Oligarchy, Police State, we have forgot the People and their Democracy, I am concern for the People because they are confuse and DO NOT KNOW, WHERE? their Democracy has gone. I am a product of the Nineteen-thirties (1930 ) and I know WHO? these Ocries, Archies, Police States, and What? they were about and now they raise their ugly heads Now because the People (YOU ) has fell for the CRY of the Government is too Big, rub bish it is the Government and the Unions Who? has proctected your Democracy While You the People Went? in search of MONIES. Wake-up small town America USA because this country is under seize be thankful that you have a President WHO? has been doing his (Critical Thinking) look out for those WHO? try to discredit Your President. Thank You are the magic words in my book. I Love Ya All. Mr. C. E. KING

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