Who Is Funding Grover Norquist? Pretty Much Who You’d Expect

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Who Is Funding Grover Norquist? Pretty Much Who You’d Expect

November 29th, 2012 2:13 pm Jason Sattler

On Tuesday, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes made an excellent point about the man whose shadow appears to loom over the entire so-called “fiscal cliff” debate — Grover Norquist:

Just so we’re clear: the source of R’s opposition to higher taxes on wealthy people isn’t Grover Norquist, it’s wealthy people.

— Christopher Hayes (@chrislhayes) November 27, 2012

Norquist’s American Taxpayer Pledge, which is signed by an overwhelming majority of the Republicans in the House and Senate, has effectively changed the tax debate in America to the point that’ we’re only discussing tax increases because the Bush tax breaks are about to expire. And it only works because Norquist has the billionaire funders he needs to back his threat of defeating anyone who dares to defy the pledge.

The Nation‘s Lee Fang looked at the funding for Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform and found that in 2010 — the year of the Tea Party’s epic landslide victory — two-thirds of the group’s funding came from just two “dark money” non-profits: The Center to Protect Patients’ Rights and Crossroads GPS.

The Center to Protect Patients’ Rights is run by Sam Noble, who has been called an “operative” for the infamous Koch Brothers. But a direct connection between the group and the brothers hasn’t been established because the group doesn’t have to list its donors. “The group doled out $44 million in 2010 to the likes of Grover Norquist’s Americans for Tax Reform, the Club for Growth, and Americans for Prosperity,” according to Mother Jones’ Andy Kroll.

Crossroads GPS is Karl Rove’s “non-profit.” According to Fang, “The only known donors are folks like Paul Singer, the ‘vulture’ hedge fund king who benefits enormously from tax strategies like the carried interest loophole.”

Of course, the idea of never raising taxes ever is already popular with Republicans, or no one would have signed Norquist’s pledge. But now when Republicans think about having to break it, they know the people who may be funding their primary opponents may include names like Rove and Koch.

Thanks to Norquist and his billionaire backers, the richest have a tax rate on income that’s about one-third of what it was in the 1950s. And the richest, who often take most of their income in the form of capital gains, often pay a lower tax rate than Warren Buffett’s secretary.

The result of what The New York Times‘ Nick Kristof calls “A Failed Experiment“? “… the top 1 percent of Americans now have greater collective net worth than the entire bottom 90 percent.”

That gives the rich plenty of money with which to keep Republicans very attentive to demands of Grover Norquist.

Tags: Americans for Tax Reform, dark money, Grover Norquist, Taxpayer Pledge

dslocum

In other words, the filthy rich crooks who’ve been taking from the middle class for years are funding the efforts to allow them to keep on stealing. Get rid of their low capital gains taxes, abundant tax loopholes, and expect them to finally pay their fair share. The US would again become prosperous.

http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

You call them filthy crooks, I call them America’s Mafia; in either case they’ve been using especially the defense industry the past decade or so to rip off us taxpayers by overcharging for everything associated with running a war. Surely you’ve noticed how consistently virtually every piece of equipment needed to fight a war, plans, tanks, ships, etc always comes in costing 2,3 or even more times what the original bids were; and how so many contractors during the Iraq war were caught drastically overcharging for all their services (in one case, Haliburton was caught charging $100/gal for gas); and how mystically billions of dollars supposedly sent to rebuild Iraq mysteriously vanished. This wasn’t by accident; it was all part of the GOP’s donors plans to rip off the American tax payer.

MethMouthMary

After the last election, I would hope that “…the billionaire funders he needs to back his threat of defeating anyone who dares to defy the pledge” have lost enough money on these wackos that they would just give up. Evenutally, any tax savings will be lost due to the millions, billions that they spend to try to buy the elections.
Norquist is pathetic !
I wish he were a “pink unicorn” Actually, I wish I were a unicorn so I could drive my spike into Norquist where the sun doesn’t shine.

http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Jones/827014412 Daniel Jones

Unfortunately, Hostess’ former funds are now paying Grover.

Donald Ramsey

What amazes me is that there is more money invovlved than any of the bastards could ever spend, even if they lived twice. The only thing the money is good for is keeping score! What it could accomplish for humankind, or just the rest of the country is of no concern, they just want to be richer than the next guy. If there is a hell, it has a special place for these assholes.
http://www.facebook.com/garth.rockcastle Garth Rockcastle

It is so refreshing to read a clear and simple description of the fiscal/political reality we have been living with for now over 25 years. Now, to get more people to understand this and to doubt the propaganda generated by these interests, corrupting our democracy, so we can get on with rebuilding a more enlightened and fair culture and future!
http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

The same people that donated tens of millions of dollars to the Romney-Ryan campaign are financing Norquist’s crusade. Hopefully the end result will be the same. The influence this ex-lobbyst exerts on most Republican legislators is hard to believe. What is even harder to comprehend is why do we – the people – remain so ambivalent when an unelected official makes candidates for elected office sign a pledge that undermines the Oath of Office our elected officials must make before taking office? Isn’t this illegal? We have thousands of people – mostly minorities – serving time for possession of a couple of ounces of marijuana, and yet, a person that effectively breaks our laws and influences policy making to advance the interests of a few at the expense of many gets away with it and continues to amass a fortune. Amazing!

patuxant

As always, well said, Dominick. Just heard about Costco’s CEO and their management’s treatment of its employees. So vastly different than the likes of those like Walmart and Hostess. Since these elitists want to take us back to medieval days, why don’t “We the People” just tar and feather them (figuratively of course)?

Progressive Patriot

I’ve stopped shopping at Walmart long ago. I’m mad at them for how they treat the majority of their employees, and the disasterous impact that they have on communities, and the need for many of their employees to be on foodstamps… due to their low level of pay, and their use of slave wage labor in foreign countries, and their anti-union, anti-labor tactics… Let’s kick them off their Corporate Welfare!

patuxant

YES! I’m there. Far too old to be kept quiet at this point in life!
Earl Gray

Don’t forget, WalMart is also a direct conduit for products from China, bypassing American manufacturers almost entirely.

Yes, I know that Costco sells things made in Chine etc. but at least they don’t go out of their way to do it…

It is time we start working for American companies, American workers, and America in general, rather than being duped by “it’s good for business”.

Progressive Patriot

I’m with you more and more, Earl Gray!

Dol5

Well stated, Dominick! Keep on writing cause we need your input.
http://profile.yahoo.com/HJIWONQOW4EAYMCA4QH2DDJMBU MARK

I don’t know about you Dom,but I call it fascism.

Jeffrey Golin

This is the definition of fascism. Rule by corporations, etc.

http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

And that’s exactly where Romney was headed: rule by corporations. He had set the wheels in motion prior to the election by encouraging CEOs to intimidate their employees by sending out a memo telling the employees that there was a good chance they would be laid off if Obama got relected. Just the beginning of corporate intimidation/influence in America’s electoral process. Can you imagine how that may have really played out if the ploy had worked and the combo of Corporate intimidation and Super Pacs money had really bought Romney the election? Of course there’s nothing saying the GOP won’t try that gambit again; hopefully if they do we can defeat it again.
metrognome3830

I think it would be more accurately called a Plutocracy, but whatever it’s called, it ain’t right . . . er . . . I guess it’s extremely right.

http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

I see it as desperate attempts by the elite – which at times looks more and more like an oligarchy – and a plutocracy with tints of fascism, determine to preserve and, if possible, expand their considerable interests at the expense of the middle class and the poor. The GOP are the paid stooges used to protect and advance the interests of the multi-nationals, corporation so large that their assets, sales and profits exceed the GDP of most countries in the world, multi-millionaires and billionaires who are not satisfied with what they have and insist on getting a larger piece of the pie at the expense of those who are trying to survive with the crumbs we get from a socio-economic system that allows the top 10% to own 2/3 of the financial wealth in the USA.

http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Sehler/100000396279499 John Sehler

Yes Dominick, I look for the Cancellation of the Magna Carta next and serfdom to be in our immediate future.

http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

Dominic, what’s been hard for me to understand is, why people who have appear to have so much money in investible income, would deliberately work so hard to vote in presidents who have such a dismal record of stock market performance during their terms. A survey done back in about 2005 by the NY Times, showed that because of the GOP’s propensity for creating recessions, that in the 35 years when a GOP president had been in office since the Great Depression, the stock market return rate has been abysmal at less than .5%. The projection was made that if $10,000 had been invested following the stock market crash of 1929, that using the GOP’s abysmal record, the $10,000 would have grown to only $11,700 by the time of the study. And if the projection had been extended to cover the market crash during Bush’s debacle, that 11,700 would have dwindled to $900. In contrast, the stock market return during the 40 years that Dems have been in the presidency since 1929, had been just under 10%, so that same $10,000 invested after the 1929 crash would have grown to over $300,000. And if extended to include the rebound of the market since Obama had taken office, the return would have actually exceeded 10% and of course, the $300,000 would have been a bit higher. Is it possible that these rich guys feel they make so much money with their rip-off the tax payers schemes that they can afford to take a beating in the stock market? Or is it that these guys have all their money in hedge funds which makes them lots of money even during market downturns?

Progressive Patriot

Wow! That’s great. Thank you!
Mikeinthedirt

Independent1, that’s a form of profit-taking, also called milking. The stock market is the magician’s left hand.

marciano3rd

The mid-term election in 2014 is the day of reckoning. Boot out from office those who do not really serve the best interests of majority of the Americans.

rr3A

“marciano3rd..” do you believe the GOP knows it??….they continue with exactly the same policies and tactics that made them lose the Presidential election…even on one report it showed that their internal polling just to the election day was off by almost double digits….they’re stocked in a bubble with goals so near sighted that makes you question their IQ’s…..they have no will on their own anymore….

http://www.facebook.com/garth.rockcastle Garth Rockcastle

Finally, a clear and insightful appraisal of our fiscal/political reality for the past 40 years! If only more understod this and acted as true participating citizens in our democracy, we could get on with building a fair, enlightened future.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1280768593 Jason Largo

Equality and constitutional guarantees of “We the People….” has been trampled by those whose power comes from wealth. This must stop.

CPANewYork

Good idea, Mr. Largo. How do you propose to do it?

Progressive Patriot

I agree. Isn’t the merger of business and government called Facism?

What has happened since Reagan, has been a villification of workers, unions, the poor, working, and now middle class; and a Lionization of Business and the 1%. They have taken the obscene profits that they have amassed since rewriting the rules, and purchased the government. They have purchased the media and brainwashed the country for over thirty years. If you follow the money, it leads back to folks like the Koch’s, who’s father founded the radical John Birch Society. Anti-union, anti-civil rights, anti-education (we’re dangerious if we’re educated)…

Having the top 1% with a greater net worth than the bottom 90%… that’s dangerous to democracy.

SaneJane

You have explained it in a nutshell. The Republican Party is not the driver of this insanity, they are merely a tool of the 1%. Obviously these people, regardless of their espousal of Christian beliefs, do not believe in the fires of Hell. They are destroying our nation on the altar of their rapacious egos and will never get enough money to sate them.

Progressive Patriot

Right on SaneJane! Thom Hartman says that they (Koch’s etc.) are sociopaths. I think that they are at least deluded.

Those with experiences like Romney and the Koch Brothers have no idea of what it’s like to be a middle class, or poor person. They have a sense of entitlement, and a conditioned belief that they are better than the rest of us. How could they not, they have been treated as “better,” their whole lives. To me, their actions show that they certainly lack empathy. The Kochs’ were obvioously indoctrinate from conception to see any regulations on them as restrictions on their “freedom.”

They don’t seem to care that their form of freedom means tyranny for most of the rest of the nation; not to mention the death of democracy. The truth is, they don’t believe in democracy. They believe in Unfettered, Vulture Capitalism. They think that they own the country. We have to take it back from them. I hope that all that we reach, that can see this, or hear the progressive message, will sign on, and share the word about ammending the constitution to say that Money is not Speech, and Corporations are not People! And once we take back our government, we must restore integrity to journalism!

http://profile.yahoo.com/CVVR3SYDWGMOSYJBUXICDDK74A Doctor T

Now we are getting to the good part, ProPat! They think that the majority of us out here don’t see through their charades and switch and bait schemes. But now is the time to strike and strike hard. I believe the President will hold firm and if that means we let the Bushy tax cuts expire, so be it. These noodniks like “Boner” and “McUgly” and “Snorqist” won’t be around for long if they are shown to be the obstructionist bullies they are. We might have to bite the bullet for a bit, but in the end, I think it will be the best result. This is the end of the road for faux capitalists and greedy villians. I think they see their days are numbered and they are squealing like fat hogs going to the slaughter. And take their imbecile mouthpieces like Limbaugh, Hannity, O’Rielly and the rest of the idiot with them.

“Conservatism is not capitalism. Capitalism is not conservatism.” Andrew J. Galambos, Free Enterprise Institute.

Progressive Patriot

You are so right Dr. T!

Still, they are not going to just slink away, and give up what they have worked so hard, to rig them system to get. They are bullies, and will continue to need to be bushed back, and punched in the nose. They love unfettered Vulture Capitalism. I love democracy, and support a form of capitalism that grows freedom and democracy and is good for the 99%. Restore our educational system. Get Big Money out of politics. Truth and Integrity is journalism.

Rick2101

I agree the rich get richer. America is fast approaching Medieval European Feudalism. We don’t call the Noble Class by names such as Count, Duke, Earl, Barron, etc. We call them C.E.O.’s or Corporate Vice President, the Executive Management Class. The ones, who give their children everything, then pass on their wealth, not necessarily a specific Title. However, make no mistake the Corporate Masters, just like their Medieval European counterparts, could care less about the peasant masses. So-called Middle Class Americans are just ignorant villagers and end up as cannon fodder for their wars to protect their wealth.

Progressive Patriot

You’ve got it Rick2… Hope you’re active with Move2Ammend?

Keep speaking truth to evil my brother!

patuxant

Hooray!!!! Well said! We can’t allow this to happen! Obama won’t it!

Progressive Patriot

patuxant, so good to hear validation from you! Hope that you’re acitve to ammend the constitution? Money is not speech! Corporations are not people!

patuxant

I certainly am. Sign me up!
patuxant

PP– are you on SS like me? I have been thinking that we should file a class action suit against the fed govt to protect our SS income and investments. What do you think?

Progressive Patriot

patuxant,
I’m not on SS yet, and will likely not be able to retire for many years to come. Pray that my health holds out! Not a lawyer, but love the thought about a class action suit. Who have you consulted with on this?

P.P.
patuxant

Actually my own idea. I am an atty. It occurred to me just the other day. Haven’t discussed it with anyone.

zeldaq

good morning patriot,
i’ve just posted a rather large comment on this subject. i listed a web sight that will
answer every ones questions about who is involved in ripping off tax payers, and THE REAL REASON behind it. it is not fiction. please take a look at it. it is VERY INTERESTING. and eye opening.

Progressive Patriot

Zel.,
Thanks for the direction to Third World… Would you please direct me to the exact post or posts you’d like me to read?

I’m also very concerned about Murdoch’s attempts to purchase more media outlets. There are only about five major media owners, all pushing to the Right. This is a tremendous threat to democracy. We must not allow the FCC (nor our administration) to weaken the few safeguards that remain. Democracy demands an educated electorate. They are brainwashing us now. We must act/respond with one loud and clear voice.

I agree with you, Zeldaq, this sure does seem like a very well organized and executed long game plan, by people that do not have the best interests of We The People at heart.

What’s your plan, my brother?

zeldaq

good morning p. pat; i find everything in The Iron Triangle very interesting, and addictive. just read ”kennedy assination. blows every other theory out of the water. make sure you don’t miss that one.anyway, i started with triangle, at the bottom of the page there are 2 links. click on the ”bush page”. you will find plenty of really good reading there. when you are through with all of that, just go to the bottom of the pages that interest you, and pick what you want. also, martin luther king, the rothchild dynasty of london. the wealthiest people on earth, who are in complete control of this planet.the CIA, latin america, there is so much, that i can’t list them all. i’m just scratching the surface myself.the more you read, the more you will see why and how the wealthy ARE going to get their NEW WORLD ORDER. if you get REALLY into it, you will see that it has to happen.i hope this helps, if not e-mail me and i’ll try to set you up with the things i find most important.have a great day, and keep in touch. p. s. i’m an old guy, a viet nam era veteran. that’s why this stuff is so interesting to me. karl Subject: [thenationalmemo] Re: Who Is Funding Grover Norquist? Pretty Much Who You’ d Expect

Progressive Patriot

zeldaq,
Thank you very much for the information. I’m sure that I’ll enjoy reading it very much. I can tell you this, though, before even reading, I’m asking myself, “What can we do to fight back?” Anyway, looking forward to keeping in touch.

Most importantly, I’m so very grateful for your service to this country! You are the true Patriot. I was just a bit too young to serve in Vietnam,and thank god, was too old for Iraq. Still, I do love this country, and the True Democracy, for which it stands.

Looking forward to hearing more from you!

P.P.
zeldaq

hey p.p. i have some very bad news. there is no way to fight back, unfortunately. this ” MASTER PLAN” will soon take shape, and can’t be stopped. i don’t mean to be the voice of doom and gloom, but the more you read, the more you will see that this must happen. i’ll give you a small outline on what i mean. the planet can’t support life for 6.7 billion people[ approx. pop. as of 2010] the green house gases are going to kill the planet. science estimates the point of no return to be approx. 2027. after that it can’t be corrected.the wealthy of the world have figured in order for the earth to start healing itself, the population must drop to no more than 1billionpeople. sometime between now and 2027 [approx.] the adjustment must take place. obama’s election threw them a curve. romneywas going to start the ball rolling, don’t forget, he is to be one of the survivers because of his wealth. again,p.p. i don’t like what i’m learning, and you must believe this is not some science fiction movie. it’s as real as it gets. the plan that the elite of the world,[not just america, this is a world wide conspiracy] are going to execute is mass sterilization of the worlds poor, and people of color. whom they feel are less than human. the world food orgs will donate food as they always have, only with chemicals that kill male sperm, and cause womens egg not to be fertile. this totally stops a next generation, forever. their plan is to elimate approx. 78% of the population. what this does is stop 78% of industry which produces 78% of the green house gases that are killing to planet. with only 22% of the population left, there will be no need for industry to keep producing more than the 22%need to survive. all of the regulations that our government is proposing IF PASSED, wouldn’t make a difference, and most other countries are not obligated to abide by the regs. even if there were full co-operation in the future it wouldn’t come in time,and if all countries on the planet did abide, it would creat the WORST WORLD WIDE DEPRESSION history has ever seen. so that won’t work. like i said in an earlier e-mail, i’m old and maybe won’t be here for the show, but anyone in their 40s or 50s will. the more you read into this the more you’ll see there really is no other option. if you come up with a solution or theory, i’de love to hear it.bottom line is the greed of those ultra wealthy caused this to happen, in their quest for money and power, by getting rid of regs. when republicans held office. regulations takes money away from their bottom line. regs. force them to spend money keeping their plants running cleaner, and more atmosphere friendly. what we have now is the results of their greed.all of this info is in these pages of the iron triangle. the more youread, the more peices of the puzzle fall into place. of all the reading i’ve done here i did not find anything untrue or exagerated. didn’t mean to bend your ear, i’m just consumed with awe. if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to e-mail me by for now karl Subject: [thenationalmemo] Re: Who Is Funding Grover Norquist? Pretty Much Who You’ d Expect
Progressive Patriot

Thanks zeldaq. I’ll enjoy the reading. As for me, I’m gonna go down swingin’!

P.P.

zeldaq

it’s me again, i just remembered something else that i think you will find VERY INTERESTING. find ”THE CARLYE GROUP, and THE 911 ATTACK.on TWC. as you read on, in all of the articles of the iro triangle, you will realize that murdoch and the rest of the media moguls are just puppets. the string pullers are the rothchild’s of london. they control everything, even our so called democracy. it’s very frighteninganyway, keep in touch. Subject: [thenationalmemo] Re: Who Is Funding Grover Norquist? Pretty Much Who You’ d Expect

http://profile.yahoo.com/C22AJV5GXSF4QE3YJY5IGBTULU TSB

Is Grover grovelling in his grave? Fill the hole!
http://profile.yahoo.com/VTV55S5BALQIDBQFOLH7WIZNSA Don B

Why do the rich need tax breaks? After all, they are RICH! They can afford to fund the same benefits and services the rest of us pay for at least at the same rates. As a tax-payer I’m tired of paying for Welfare for the Wealthy!

patuxant

I love it Don! Welfare for the Wealthy! I will use that if that is ok with you.

lambypie

I guess I am just ignorant but wouldn’t it just be cheaper and easier to pay the darn taxes. I realize that they can write off contributions but for the sake of it sounding to easy just pay the stupid taxes like I have to and just SHUT UP!

johninPCFL

$44MM this year, versus $Billions per year of taxes is the calculus. They won’t give up, there’s a huge financial incentive to stay in it to win it.

Plus, your picture is revered in the halls of money.
SaneJane

It is about more than taxes. It is about keeping our citizenry under their thumb. Their goal is to create their kingdom and control the masses through lack of education, healthcare, social progress and opportunities for advancement. They want to be royalty and they want us to be their serfs. They don’t want to pay taxes because this would give the government more money to take care of it’s citizens and they don’t want that. This is just an expansion of “Starve the Beast” and aimed only at keeping us in our place.
Progressive Patriot

Lamby Pie,
What is your intention here? Doesn’t seem like you’re really interested in understanding how your fellow citizens have come to see our country in such a way. I think that if you asked, you’d find more in common with us than you now think.

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_6SJHIXTNUI3LGFCQAL4BMUCCTY Theresa R

They could have used this money towards the National Debt, but instead they use it for EXTORTION!!
phanya2012

The voters will just have to keep on coming out and voting all of the people out of office … or back in office if they behave like adults … we beat the money once, we can do it again and again until people are in office who actually want to run the country for the benefit of all.

Progressive Patriot

Hope you are right! They will not just go away quietly. We also have to undo the great damage that they have already done. We must unite to take back the House, and restore the Supreme Court, as well as the lower courts too. We must dismantle the Corporate Media Monopoly, so that we can provide the electorate with facts, and not propoganda.

howa4x

When are the working people who swallow all this republican fear that is done to protect people who they will never meet and don’t have their intrests in mind, going to wake up? They are like the bobble heads that were popular in the 60′s, that you put on your dashboard, always nodding yes. They have allowed themselves to be victumized by patriotism, racism, sexism, homophobia, anti Latino, and anti enviornment, messages, and minipulated to vote for the republicans who push these buttons for their desired effect. What about the billionairs? They have more money than they will ever need and still want more and more. What about all the religious figures that preach that this growing gap between the ultra rich and everybody else is god’s will, and to try to do anyting about it you will be branded a commie. Why do all the republican elected officials go along with this? They know that we have problems, that the middleclass suffered during the Wall st meltdown, victums of the foreclousure crisis, they know that Fracking causes underground water pollution. Why do they love the Koch bros? How can republicans during Bush lavish tax breaks on people who don’t even need it and at the same time allow 32 million to be uninsured and sit by and watch 50k deaths a year of men women and children so the rich can have more. How dare the republican party proclaim they are the party of God and how dare the religious right claim they are Christians. This is what the real problem is in this country..

http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

We need a movement to enlighten the preachers who are misleading their supposedly Christian flocks into worshipping and voting for the godless anti-Christian leaders of the GOP who have turned the once Good Old Party into nothing more than America’s version of the Mafia.

howa4x

I agree. We don’t need to enlighten the preachers who already have chosen money over Jesus, since they are a lost issue, they bring people to mega churches and pass the money bucket around. They try to get people to believe that collective thinking is not what Jesus meant but get them to agree that greed in gods name is good, and if he were alive today he might even be one of the Koch bros.
We need to get to the people and try to show them that everything that is done by the republicans is for the very rich including the wars their kids died in, and that air and water pollution will hurt their children and not those who live in estates with bottled water. That tax cuts for the rich won’t mean jobs for them. We have to try to get them to vote for their children and families and not for hatred of one group or another. I know that is almost impossible but we have to convince one person at a time. Do you agree?

zeldaq

good morning howa4x,
you can get all the answers to your questions at the web sight i posted this morning.
THE THIRD WORLD TRAVELER.COM. then follow THE IRON TRIANGLE. there is a lot of info AND VERY MUCH WORTH READING.
have a great day!!!!

bstockinger

The rich 1 percent in this country ought to look at the causes of revolution in the world. Excess concentration of the wealth is one of the primary causes. They also ought to look the concentration of wealth compared to the when major depressions and recessions occur in the country. There seems to be a direct link between the too much wealth held by too few people and the start of depressions and recessions. If too few people have all the money, they can’t spend it or apparently invest it fast enough to keep the economy going.

Progressive Patriot

Seems obvious to me too. We all want to feel as if we are valuable, but the 1% are controling the media, and not only touting their own value, THEY are waging class warfare (and have been for 30 years), by villianizing the poor, working and middle class.
Our economy IS demand driven. We ARE THE REAL JOB CREATORS! And should be proud of it!

lambypie

That sounds like a bunch of fantasy books I’ve read in the past – king/queen dies someone sneaks in and takes over and bam the poor subjects are taxed to extremes as the saying goes “rob from the poor give to the rich.” Very common theme. I thought we were way past the Dark Ages!

http://profile.yahoo.com/MQ35DZELWWW2UHO5CNXCZUH37Q JunkleJoe

As I’ve said many times over the past twenty years or so, Republicans won’t be satisfied until they’ve created a third world nation from sea to shining sea…

http://pulse.yahoo.com/_QFTD4SSX5TR5T6YNW7WVHPSJZI Fred

It is time to raise taxes, eliminate the debt, cut military spending, get out/stay out of war and work on a surplus for the future. It is simple raise taxes to 90% on Grover Norquist. That should cover all the aforementioned.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000098494961 Rowena M Cleghorn-Nieroda

And who are the funders for the Tea Party..the Koch brothers. Go figure.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000098494961 Rowena M Cleghorn-Nieroda

And the Tea Party biggest backers are the Koch brothers. Go figure.
dslocum

Does this make Grover Norquist a prostitute – or a pimp……….?

http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

Absolutely! A pimp of the worst kind! Purely evil!!

stcroixcarp

If you want to know how all this operates read (but don’t buy) Jack Abramoff’s book, Capitol Punishment. At the end of the book, Abramoff still endorses his buddy Grover.
http://profile.yahoo.com/MQ35DZELWWW2UHO5CNXCZUH37Q JunkleJoe

As I’ve said many times over the past twenty years or so, Republicans won’t be satisfied until they’ve created a third world nation from sea to shining sea…
latebloomingrandma

How true! In addition, I think there has been a concerted effort to plant the idea that anything other than business is “socialism.” Many people equate socialism with a form of government (which it is not) and pretty much the same thing as communism (Which IS a form of government), which continues to to arouse fear, even thought there are more members of the KKK in America than there are legitimate communists. Ever hear Faux news listers refer to our President as being surrounded by and educated by “Marxists.”? And don’t forget his “radical secret agenda”. All done to stoke fear, to be able to put their own radical agenda in place.
patuxant

“SnorQuist” is a shill and a con artist. This so-called pledge benefits no one but those you mention here. I am not suprised that the K Street lobbyists are bankrolling this project. And further, this “convenient arrangement for the 1%” is not a “legal and binding contract” no matter what the man says. Try prevailing in a court of law about a breach. By the way, just noted that SnorQ is married to a Muslim woman. Why aren’t the nutty TBers all over that one like they were over Huma Weiner? Just more hypocrisy. These robber barons are NOT capitalists, but rather demons masked as such.
rr3A

Is the 1% against the 99%….it has been like this all along…..regardless of what the GOP will say…..their goal is to protect the wealthy….at all costs….(and their own jobs)….even if it means losing Presidential elections…..

jstsyn

Everyone in Congress pledges allegiance to America. Every time they salute the flag they pledge allegiance to America. Anyone in Congress that pledges to anyone (thing) else is a TRAITOR. The republicans that signed a pledge to grover should be arrested and jailed. They are worse than any commie and should face the firing squad.

Hughes Hunt

This is CLASS WAR, pure and simple, between CAPITAL comprising the top wealthy one percent and LABOR consisting of 99% of Americans. It is time for We, the People, to bring our government ” back to speed ” and to financial health by instituting much-needed mandatory financial, judicial, environmental and legislative reforms in the worst 112th Congress of our nation’s history. It was worsened by systematic, gradual destruction of financial and environmental regulations designed by the billionaire Koch brothers with the end in view of eventual monopoly, control and enslavement of 99% of Americans and ultimately, world dominion by the top wealthy one percent. By the power of their inherited $100 billion fortune, the Koch brothers have corrupted and financed in billions of dollars all Republican leaders and organization namely: GOP-Tea Partier Congress members particularly Speaker John Boehner, Sen. Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor, GWBush, Cheney, Tea Party movement, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann, 33 Republican state governors’ ALEC voter I.D. laws, Sheriff Arpaio, naturalized citizen birther queen from the USSR, Sen. Marco Rubio, defeated presidential nominee Mitt Romney, Paul Ryan, Karl Rove, Grover Norquist, Limbaugh, Glenn Beck,Hannity, O’Reilly, SCOTUS justices Scalia, Thomas, Alioto, John Birch Society, Heritage Foundation, Americans for Prosperity,all Think Tanks,more than 300 foundations under the guise of religion, patriotism, liberty, among countless others. “Divide and conquer” is the mode of operation of choice of the Koch brothers and corporate CEO’s to dismantle the middle class and all social safety nets. This systematic “modus operandi” of “divide and conquer” has been operational for more than 30 years since illuminati Fred Koch, father of the Koch brothers, founded John Birch Society and created communism and amassed his oil fortune building refineries under genocide dictator Joseph Stalin who murdered millions in the USSR. This “divide and conquer” mode of operation in the USA has been going on for more than 30 years since Nixon of Watergate infamy, Reagan of Iran-Contra scandal, Bush Sr. of Persian Gulf War, GWBush and his 2 unfunded, wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, having decimated USA’s surplus under Pres. Clinton and created America’s near financial collapse, meltdown and free-fall.The ultimate goal of the Koch brothers is total deregulation of everything and the privatization of trillion-dollar Social Security funds to be invested in Wall Street. For this reason, for more than 30 years, the Koch brothers have financed the political campaigns of Republican congress members and created foundations, Think Tanks, Echo Chambers with more than 300 different position papers by top scholars, experts and scientists that money can buy who relentlessly claim nationwide in the media, newspapers, radio, TV on Murdoch’s Fox News the same propaganda “that social security is broke” . The truth is that social security is self-funded, fiscally-sound, healthy and should never be included in the fiscal cliff talks.It is time for accountability of crimes and punishment by voting out of office all GOP Republican Tea Potties in the three branches of government:executive, legislative, judicial, local, state and federal= a nationwide purge of “persona non grata” undesirable obstructionists and filibusters who are puppets of the billionaire Koch brothers and Rupert Murdoch. Period.

zeldaq

good morning hughes hunt,
all that you mentioned above actually goes back more than 30 years. the web sight info
i posted earlier, will tie everything you talked about, together. i found it very interesting
and REALLY enlightened me to the real reason for todays politics, and future politics
as well.
her is the site, THIRD WORLD TRAVELER.COM link THE IRON TRIANGLE
have a great day!!!

Progressive Patriot

Oh, I get it. Ref. to The Iron Triangle.
Thanks,
P.P.

Progressive Patriot

Hughes,
We need your voice, loud and clear. Keep teaching us!
I’m really concerned about Murdoch’s naked attempts to monopolize media. Let’s speak out and let The President know that he must strengthen, not loosen already weak FCC regulations. Monopoly, corporate or journalistic, is a true threat to Democracy.

jstsyn

Solution: Pass law that insures no one has enough money to subvert America’s democracy.
http://profile.yahoo.com/HFYZP2APYPP7H6PWS2ZDQRWFEQ Hillbilly

There are some of the rich that believe in paying their fair share of taxes like Warren Buffet and the Democrats that are millionaires in Congress. There were 40 plus millionaires that told the Republicans in 2010 not to extend the Bush tax cuts for the rich but they got them extend by blackmailing the Democrats over unemployment benefits being extended. Even if there wasn’t Norquist and his book of no tax increases signatures the Republicans wouldn’t be willing to raise taxes on the rich as most of them are millionaires, multimillionaires and including the money that many of their spouses have makes them billionaires and they aren’t interested in paying their fair share of taxes anymore than their rich friends and backers are. I think that being a millionaire or richer should disqualify you from being able to run for Congress or the Presidency, maybe then the 99% will get better representation than we have now from both parties. There should also be term limits for members of Congress just like there is for the President.

Progressive Patriot

Hi Hillbilly,
You bring up a point that needs to be considered. Wonder why there is little mention in the corporate media? My only fear regardng term limits is that the only long term “representatives,” that will remain, will be Lobbiests. That would not be good. What about an ammendment to the constitution stating that money is not speech, and corporations are not people. Then, limit contributions to small, individual amounts.
Looking forward to hearing more on your views regarding Term Limits!
P.P.

http://profile.yahoo.com/HJIWONQOW4EAYMCA4QH2DDJMBU MARK

Having Republicans in congress who have signed the Norquist Mandate is like having a fox to guard the hen house.One ends up asking “Where are all the eggs and chickens?” In this case we ask “Where are all the jobs the tax breaks for the rich were supposed to create and where is Americas’ prosperity?” It has been a pig in a poke,a classic hoodwink,a colossal boondoggle,and a majorly criminal ripoff of the American People. Damn Them!
http://www.facebook.com/dpigme Daniel Mays

vote democratic and throw these bums out
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000154227782 Bart Grossman

So now Republicans might want to rethink the Koch/Rove/Norquist agenda which destroyed them at the polls. To me the greatest thing about this election, the thing that makes my heart sing, is that these rich folks spent mega-millions and lost.
Jeffrey Golin

Billionaires hijack government

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1118543425 Robin O’Brien

They’re trying!!….
#1:
The Republicans didn’t win the election. Obama won!
#2:
Hopefully President Obama will shut them down! The majority of the population want the rich folks tax cuts eliminated and some rational reductions made to reduce government expenditures. Don’t come after my Social Security and/or Medicare. I refuse to work additional years so that the upper 2% can live more comfortably. If the Republican representatives don’t realize this second step fast, they will be looking for employment in ‘the real world’.
(I love the feeling that our votes can make a difference in determining the direction that our country goes!)……..The billionaires spent millions supporting Mitt Romney…Our votes kept President Obama in office! Time for the Republicans to realize who they are representing!……The People!!!….NOT corporations!

Justin Napolitano

I pledge allegiance to Grover Norquist of the Divided States of America and to the notion of no taxes, for which he stands, with irresponsible government, under duress with inequity and injustice for all but the affluent.

The following is the oath Congressmen recites when taking office:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

No where does it state that allegiance should be given to a narrow minded, self serving person advocating irresponsible and unsustainable underfunding of the United States Federal government. The very idea that many members of congress would abdicate their responsibilities to an unelected, lobbyist suggests not only incompetent behavior but possibly collusion designed to undermine the Constitution of the United States and the financial stability of the country.

The electorate voted for their representatives to protect the Republic not the interests of a given individual or group. Any Congressman that signed the no new taxes pledge authored by Grover Norquist should be voted out of office
http://twitter.com/LostAnarchist S-3

Violent Revolution and Anarchy on all rich people who didn’t earn their shit legitimately like the rest of us struggle to do in the U.S. NOW!!

Who’s with me?!

cocoanutty

What are you talking about? A violent revolution, seriously? So how do you propose that you find these so-called “rich people who didn’t earn their shit legitimately”? Get a grip. Talking like makes you sound crazy not credible.

URLNTS

It’s called hyperbole, see Faux”news” they do it 24/7!

cocoanutty

Oh I get it, so you are taking the appraoch of “well they started it, so there”. Makes perfect sense if you are a 4 year old, otherwise not so much. I bet you watch MSNBC. It all adds up!

http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1355735088 Alan Yungclas

Why doesn’t Grover get a real job?
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1118543425 Robin O’Brien

Yet another Republican Puppet
onedonewong

Norquist is being funded by private capitol and not 1 dime of tax payer $$. Now who is funding Planned Parenthood, Green Peace, rebuilding Mosques, Southern Poverty Law Center, NAACP, Rainbow why the poor dumb taxpayers who would you think…lib causes can’t survive on their own they need govt $$ to exist

URLNTS

The Environmental,Political Pollution that goes along with the Information Pollution/Propaganda put out by the bought and paid liars ,deniers and Corporate Pimps working for the Koch Bros/Cato/Americans for Prosperity costs the US Tax Payer and all of Humanity dearly!!!

onedonewong

Those groups have a right to spend their $$ as they see fit. The other liberal organization have no right to PICK my Pockets

http://profile.yahoo.com/M5KBPVNQZTFDQMACPONG6F3RKA andy

Everybody need to pay their fair share
http://profile.yahoo.com/W47EPFNKKVMMLR4VV2QEFWOBAY Janet

Norquist and his funders are immoral. They are of the same breed that caused the French Revolution and Marie Antoinette to lose her head. How did these people become the princes of America? It’s all about the almighty dollar. They should bow their heads in shame!
zeldaq

good morning all,
it’s true grover is working for the koch bros; and other wealthy people. but that’s just the tip of the iceburg. i’ve been digging around and i found some very interesting info on this criminal behavior.
if you want to get deeper into the real foundation of this, go to ” THIRD WORLD TRAVELER.COM
then follow , THE IRON TRIANGLE. you will find the REAL reason, and the REAL people behind
this plot. i believe that it’s just a matter of time before our nation as we know it, will take real turn for the worst. the next time the republicans win the white house, our country will be lost. this
has been in the works for many years, and it’s finally coming to a head. i’m not preaching doom,
i’m passing on what i’ve just learned. and it is scary. i fear for my children, and grand kids. this
new world order would have started in november, if the election had turnd out different. to me,
all that’s in the news today about tax breaks, debt ceilings, social security, and so on, are small
potatoes. the big storm is right around the corner. the GOP will eventually take power, and we
all know that they will get as down and dirty as they need to to get what they want. i think that
it can go one of two ways. first, they will win the white house, and keep the majority in
congress. that’s when they enact laws that help their cause. this will begin THEIR NEW WORLD
ORDER. the GOP must get the plan going now, because more info about their history will be
surfacing. the public is more aware of politics now than they were ever before. and if this
continues, it lessens their chances of success. i do believe they will fabricate dirt on the dems.
to win the next election.
the other option is, the public is made aware of this plan to destroy our country. that may hold
the GOP off for four more years, or it may put them out of business for good.
this is not fantasy, or fiction. this plan has been in the works for many years.
the more people who know about this, and spread the word, the better the chances the GOP
will fail. i used to think that GWB was just a dumb ass. now i know what really drove him, and
what his real intentions were. he is still a dumb ass, but he is a dangerous arogant dumb ass.
any way, i hope at least some of you, my fellow patriots read the articles i posted above.
it’s our future at stake.
have a great day!!!!!
lambypie

My intention is that when you look at the big picture what are the republicans whining about. Let them know to just pay up and shut up!

Progressive Patriot

Thank you lambypie. Glad I asked!

http://www.facebook.com/len.carrier.1 Len Carrier

Grover Norquist is only the face on the body of the beast–and that beast is a Frankenstein monster composed of the Koch brothers, Adelson, and others having the upper 1% of wealth in this country. In a fairer system, these people would be banished to Devil’s Island. But given the world as it is, and given the system we have, we must needs be content to tax this beast until, as Norquist would say, we can “drown it in a bathtub.”
http://profile.yahoo.com/UX7YHK33WUYQBABDQFNVDVDC7E RanR

This is what puzzles me. How can a middle class guy know that much about wealth generation and the impact of taxes? I think Warren Buffet put it correctly, a wealthy person doesn’t think about tax rates when investing million or billions but what they going to make from the investment. Oh, I will only make 7 million on a profit of 10 million, gee I don’t want to invest in it.
CYNICALZ

Maybe Sorros should stop donating to your boy Socialist?
BigTurd

I hate to keep beating a dead and stinkin’ elephant, but why is it that Grover Norquist, the Koch Brothers and Karl Rove have never been elected to any government office, congress, the senate or the house have anything to do with making, writing laws, bills? I say that this just proves my point: That every politician in D.C. is on the take, they have as donors legal and illegal organizations, hell I wouldn’t be surprised if not one but several Mexican cartels are even donating to the GOP cause, and the best way to deviate or misdirect anyone looking into that is to create a big stink concerning taxes
http://www.facebook.com/fefe.fox.3 FeFe Fox

THAT PLEDGE IS MORE IMPORTANT THEN YOU MIDDLE CLASS AND POOR AMERICAN HUMAN BEINGS… THAT IS JUST SAD
Mikeinthedirt

There’s a lot of heat here. We could generate some steam, and steam is powerful.
I’m surprised, though, that people seem to think that amoral, supranational plutocracy is a new development. This has ALWAYS been the essential social conflict. From Midas to Machiavelli to Morgan and Mellon. A Very Large Part of our present predicament is due to the death-match waged for the better part of the 20th century against Socialism, a word that probably means something different than you think it does. Please, stay awake and alert, stay active, hold ‘their’ feet to the fire every day, all day. We are not helpless, we are many.
Mikeinthedirt

Profiteering has a long and ignoble record. Thousands of Union soldiers died of tainted tinned beef, or exploding rifle breeches, or coal-dust-filled cartridges. Thousands of Revolutionary War soldiers walked through the bottom of their boots in the first week or two, or had their uniforms and bedrolls fall to pieces. MilSpec has been a euphemism for gouging as long as I’ve been alive (61).
ritaramona

After they get rid of taxes are they going to get rid of death
http://profile.yahoo.com/YBYYIQHBLD7BZAU6L3DC7MS4YM Rodney

put the rep out of their mis. send them to jail
http://www.facebook.com/zenda.watford Zenda Watford

Dominick, they get away with it because most people are not aware of what is happening ! I have spent a lot of time trying to talk to people in the Republican party during the election , and most weren’t even aware that the economy collapsed in 2008 under Bush !
Canistercook

Who is funding Obama – Unions, including government and teachers unions!
Viswa Ghosh

This is a typical situation where the 1% rich minority is holding the 99% majority (who earn less than $250K per year) to ransom. UNBELIEVABLE BUT RIDICULOUSLY TRUE!
http://profile.yahoo.com/YBWWPDTU7ZZAYYNPQLVJBAFRUE Michaelj M.

Who is funding President Obama??? That would be people that are working and struggling to keep their homes and people who trying to get jobs and still support the president because he is putting forth programs that will not only benefit the poor and middle class but everyone in the United States.
http://profile.yahoo.com/QXUFSMTKTK3UCL3ZFPJPONXAVM mac macey

We all know what Norquist’s crusade did to the 2012 election? Yip, Obama won.

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