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2014 May Be White Enough For The GOP — But What Comes Next?

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2014 May Be White Enough For The GOP — But What Comes Next?

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Overshadowed amid Sarah Palin’s unique interpretation of Dr. Seuss, Wayne LaPierre’s overheated vision of America’s apocalyptic decline, and all of the other craziness at the 2014 Conservative Political Action Conference, Republican pollster Whit Ayres gave a fact-based presentation to the gathering of right-wing activists. What he said should terrify the GOP.

Ayres, whose firm counts the RNC, NRSC, NRCC, and several influential Republican politicians among its clients, appeared on a panel on Saturday to discuss electoral trends and the future of the GOP.

The slides from Ayres’ presentation, which are available on his firm’s website, reiterate something that many Republicans have long warned: America’s changing demographics leave the increasingly white GOP at risk of entering what Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) memorably described as a “demographic death spiral.”

In short, as the Republican pollster explained, the white proportion of the American electorate is declining at an alarming rate. Meanwhile, Republicans are performing much worse among non-white voter groups. If the party doesn’t change something — Ayres suggests immigration reform as a good place to start — it will cease to be viable in national elections.

One particular point in the presentation stood out, however. Turning to the midterm elections, Ayres declared to hearty applause that “we’ve got some good news: We’re going to have a great 2014. We’re going to hold the House, we’re going to pick up the Senate, it’s going to be a great 2014.”

“One of the reasons why,” he explained, “is that the percentage of whites in the electorate is about five points higher in the off-year elections.”

Ayres graph

Perhaps Ayres — who, like most pollsters, does not have a spotless record when it comes to predicting elections — should remember what he said in 2012 before asserting that the whiteness of the midterm electorate will bring his party certain success in 2014. Back then, he explained his party’s failure to elect Mitt Romney as president by noting that “it is a mistake to place rosy assumptions on a likely electorate that are at variance — and substantial variance — with recent history.”

Democrats immediately called foul on the crowd’s warm reception to Ayres’ assertion.

“It says a lot that top Republicans believe that lower minority participation in the electoral process is something to celebrate. They know that when the electorate represents more Americans and more voices, they lose,” DNC Director of Voter Expansion Pratt Wiley said in a statement.

In fairness to Ayres, he made it perfectly clear that Republicans need to diversify their party, instead of relying on shrinking the electorate.

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Henry Decker

Henry Decker was formerly the Managing Editor of The National Memo. He is currently an Online Associate at MRCampaigns.

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  1. Daniel Jones March 10, 2014

    The fact that a guy whose name is rather evocative of White Aryan (though I suspect he isn’t one) is telling these people they really need to *honestly* appeal to other groups or wither on the vine is telling.

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  2. Dominick Vila March 11, 2014

    What is happening to the GOP is similar to what is happening to the Post Office, Sears, JC Penney, Hallmark, Radio Shack and other venerable institutions that were once the envy of the world and are rapidly becoming irrelevant as a result of their failure to adapt to a changing world.
    The days when white Americans imposed their will and were unchallenged by hapless minorities are long gone. African Americans constitute about 12% of our population, legal Hispanics-Latinos are 18% of our population; and when we add Asians, people of mixed ethnicity, and those married to minorities the makeup of our population, from an ethnic perspective, is divided almost in half between whites and “minorities”.
    The problem for the GOP is further aggravated by the derogatory statements they make when they refer with ethnic minorities, the lack of compassion they demonstrate, their overt determination to keep minorities down, and their exclusion from the political decision making process.

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    1. elw March 11, 2014

      You are so right, although I am White my family is multi-racial. So their comments are very personal to me, in spite of my own skin color. My grandchild take it even more personally than I do, after all they have no memories of segregated communities and have grown up in a multi-racial world both at school and family life. The world is changing and it will be even more dramatic when Generation X takes over. I hope I live long enough to see it.

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      1. angelsinca March 12, 2014

        My family is multi-racial too. But I am supposedly a racist because I don’t subscribe to the same Democratic imaginings that all conservatives are racist-homophobic-wimmin-haters. Now it seems I am also supposed to be a nazi. You silly putties crack me up.

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        1. elw March 12, 2014

          This may be a shock to you, but you are not the center of the universe and most likely not even on the list of people Democrats think of.

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          1. Russell Byrd March 12, 2014

            I love your reply. Angel cannot fathom that having a minority [not for long] in the family, does not cancel his bigotry towards those groups as a whole. We definitely do not think about Angel very often. If “it” left, we would probably never mentioned that name again.

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          2. elw March 12, 2014

            Thank-you. Angel lives in a very strange world and is not anywhere as important as she/he thinks.

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          3. Russell Byrd March 12, 2014

            Amen!

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          4. angelsinca March 13, 2014

            True, elw, I live in the world your people have mandated. It feels very strange to be told how to talk, what to think, where to speak, who to like, what to eat, when to worship. Your world. It bites.

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          5. Russell Byrd March 13, 2014

            EXCEPT, none of those things are true. We are only trying to stop your ilk from acting out your power trips on the rights of others. Like your useless, lying trolling in this MINOR blog.

            Who told you what to eat? Did you eat what we wanted you to tonight?

            We obviously cannot stop a coward like you from sniping this MINOR blog with your lies. So, how are we telling you what to say?

            Telling you what to think? Now that, and you, are really stupid. Everyone knows we do not control your hatred.

            Who to like? You hate just about everyone. You can like who you please if you would just quit bullying everyone else.

            Your mob is the one that has proved you want to literally control the bodies of your neighbors. You want control of their very souls.

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          6. angelsinca March 15, 2014

            I am not angry and haven’t felt any hate for a long time. Your hate of conservatives is obvious. It has overpowered your ability to reason Look at what you have written here this week. It’s mostly ugly. Those are your thoughts, your opinions, your words, your anger, your rage. You don’t need to blame others for your feelings. Take control of yourself, man.

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          7. Russell Byrd March 15, 2014

            Bull! I hate people that hate. That is you. I hate people that troll endlessly. That is you. AND I especially hate people that lie constantly. That is you by definition.

            Yes, my words that I am almost entirely proud of. You deserve every bit of what I have said and much, much more.

            You ARE ugly, regardless of your personal appearance.

            You lie in every post. Like your declaration that the group was mine. You can’t quit.

            I am in complete control.

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          8. Russell Byrd March 15, 2014

            What I have written is ugly, because what you have been writing for years is nothing but ugly lies.

            I can bust your lies forever. Literally. You are too stupid to understand that your posting is totally of no value. You are merely here to entertain yourself at the expense of others. That is real sick.

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          9. Russell Byrd March 15, 2014

            You feel no hate? Answer me a question, do you ever tell the truth? Even once?

            Another question would be, what is your purpose here. You are wasting what remains of your life in being a useless pariah. I have never seen buy into anything you say for more than a few seconds. Even then, your condescension alienates everyone in a matter of seconds. Exactly what you did to me.

            And again, I am in complete control. I suggest you look at your own useless, wasted life and maybe gain control of yourself.

            I see you exactly as you are. You think you are confounding your ideological enemies and proven wondrous points to the infidels. When in reality, no one really cares. Unless, it is another useless bullying, lying, troll. Yet, all you are doing is throwing your life away convincing people that your side must go down. And all the way down is where you are headed.

            I can see you sitting in your little basement that smells of stale beer and piss, smiling your little half-crazed evil grin, thinking you have changed the world, but you are only helping your enemies. You are only recruiting for us. Really, I assure you that people with decency and half a mind see you as the disgusting garbage that you are. That is why you people are losing more elections AND why it will get a lot worse real soon. They see you as the ambassador of hatred and lies. Decent people reject you.

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          10. angelsinca March 15, 2014

            Save this boilerplate speech for your next victim. I’ll be there as you try to beat down the next conservative in your campaign of oppression. Would you eliminate all conservatives if you could? Of course you would. But please don’t stop. It will only help assure complete voter rejection of everything you represent (which isn’t much more than blind hatred toward the GOP). Keep up the fine work for the other team, Fernwood…lol.

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          11. Russell Byrd March 15, 2014

            If being a disciple of totalitarianism is conservative, then you are conservative. What you call conservative equates with being a Brown Shirt.

            So, if conservatives are so oppressed in the MINOR (your word) and liberal blog, why are they here. You have a right to speech, but not a right to continue trying to hammer the free speech of others into the ground.

            So, everyone here knows the difference. You come here to disrupt, I only come here to disrupt filth like you when I cannot stand your drivel any more. You do nothing but troll, I only troll trolls. BIG difference.

            So do whatever time wasting activity that burrows out of your worm infested skull.

            By the way, are the only ideas you have provided by others. Why don’t you actually ask the regular posters what your trolling has done to damage their views on the GOP.

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          12. angelsinca March 15, 2014

            Still waiting for that proof of racism. My life is fine but thanks for the concern. You confuse confidence for condescension. I don’t have a basement. We have no beer in the house. Last time you said i was supposedly in my Mom’s basement. But after disclosing to you that she had died, you continued to ridicule her loss, asshole. You pass along the same crap to so many people, you forget what you said to who. Have a nice day, dipweed. See you at the next level.

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          13. Russell Byrd March 15, 2014

            Proof has been provided probably hundreds of times by now. And I am not the only one to prove it.

            You need a dictionary and maybe a little education. When anyone tries to agree with you, you beat them over the head with your know-it-all attitude.

            Have a basement? Beer? Well, maybe not, but maybe a little intelligence and a sense of humor would be grand.

            As to your mother, you are the one insulting her memory by lying about what was said. Everything I have EVER said was strictly about YOU.

            So asshole, the only people I have ever given any crap too, with a rare exception, is human waste like you. You badger and butt into discussions, and treat people that are twice as smart as you like garbage. BUT, YOU CAN’T TAKE IT IN RETURN!

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          14. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            Although I don’t know, I think the chances are his is a stupid, pathetic, mentally and physically weak man who, not being able to throw his weight around in the real world, does so on blogs like this. If he behaved this way in the real world, the chances are that he would end up in the hospital having been beaten to a pulp very quickly. Not saying that is right or he deserves it, but in the real world people can’t behave like this without there being dire consequences for themselves.

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          15. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            Only a few lawless thugs like you would do that Herr Bowen. Those scumbags are out there to do their violence to someone anyway. Actually, in the real world Herr Bowen, you would be seen as a pariah that few would want to be associated with. Very nearly unemployable as well. As you already seem to be. You ARE a racist that makes up excuses to hate minorities and disguise your racism, because you do not have that easy road that you think you have earned because you are white. Sorry, but you are the problem. That is why I have said what I have.

            Quit getting your information from Rush and Stormfront. . . . And grow up.

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          16. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            You are a traitor, plain and simple.

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          17. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            You are a traitor, plain and simple.

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          18. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            No, I want the best for my fellow countrymen. You want to put illegal aliens above them. That is treason.

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          19. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            No, you do not you treasonous bastard. You came here because you saw the word “white” in the title of the article. An article that you obviously never read. The only “fellow countrymen” you recognize are clones of yourself.

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          20. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            Yes I do. Putting aliens above citizens is treason–that is what you want to do, not me. What is best for our countrymen is to preserve our economic opportunity and quality of life.

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          21. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            If you are all America has to offer, then maybe we do need some new blood.

            It is you that are not only a traitor, but a racist, and a very, very inferior breed of American.

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          22. James Bowen March 18, 2014

            What more do I need to say? You just displayed your traitorous attitude with this last post. I have news for you. America is not an just an idea–it is a people, a nation, a land, a country, and a unique culture in its own right.

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          23. Russell Byrd March 18, 2014

            I would only replace the useless, self-entitled filth that is damaging American progress. That is not treason, but opportunity. Exactly, what your bat crap crazy comrades have been preaching.

            Of course, YOU would never be on that list as you are one of the “chosen,” i.e. RACIST. You really HATE America. Now that is TREASON. The America that you desire would only contain those you approve of. In other words, no “darkies.” No liberals. No gays. Maybe, you keep around a few token “cool” black roadies to keep you company. Women put in their proper place, weeded out for quality, and available when you have your special needs.

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          24. James Bowen March 19, 2014

            The only ones as a group who I can think of who fit that description are illegal aliens. They came here uninvited and are now demanding to stay, a right they do not have. That is self-entitled. Capitulating to their demands and those of their greedy, self-serving employers is treason. You words just seethe with hatred for the American nation. Illegals are not Americans and they have no right to be here. America is a land and a people, not some vague ideal.

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          25. Russell Byrd March 19, 2014

            I have asked a much greater variety of questions than you, and provided rationale reasons. How many of my questions have you answered? Pretty much none. I answer because I know even if you do answer, it will be a lie.

            You forget the adult is in charge. I will answer what I please, when I please. I have played your sick bully game and now it will be by my rules. By the way, you are only convincing me of your marginal and unstable personality. Your racist malarkey will NEVER fly with me.

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          26. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            You are a racist bastard, truly plain and simple.

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          27. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            I am not the one that wants to punish the poorest among us. All the while cowardly hiding your true racist agenda and using our own government as a make weight to accomplish your evil.

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          28. James Bowen April 20, 2014

            It is not a punishment and there is nothing evil about returning people to their home countries. In most cases, what we do to our own citizens who are locked away in prison is worse.

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          29. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            My goodness, how you lie so. Do you really believe that rot? Really. By the way, being locked in prison is for the commission of criminal acts. I have a lot to say about the injustice of our criminal in-justice system, but this is neither the place or time. Of course, any place is good enough for you to get our your SOAP BOX and start preaching your racist mantra.

            I say we deport lazy whiners like you. Less people on the dole, more efficiency, and less disruption to the lives of decent people. You really do hate America, people in general, and people that are different than you.

            Once again, I am for deporting you.

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          30. James Bowen April 21, 2014

            What’s the lie here? It is not a legal punishment to deport an alien–it is a corrective administrative action which requires no due process other than establishment of illegality. Going to prison is a legal punishment, and it is likely a lot worse than sending someone back to their home country.

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          31. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            G.D. liar. What does the law do by enforcing. Fix a tray of cookies and milk. Your head needs serious shrinking.

            You will always be a liar, since you came here to do nothing but soap box on a totally off-topic subject AND you thrice falsified your educational credentials to seem an authority that you are not. You want to be recognized as superior, when you are truly inferior.

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          32. James Bowen April 22, 2014

            Enforcing the law ensures that people are in compliance with the law. That does not necessarily mean punishment. Deporting an illegal alien is not a legal punishment, but it does ensure compliance with the law on the part of the alien.

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          33. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            You need some lessons in practical ethics, AND the law. Laws have PENALTIES. What is the root word of PENALTIES. Without punishment, laws have no practical force, but you already know that.

            You will say any damn thing to get that precious edge you value so much. Unfortunately, you do not have enough sense to understand that telling any damn lie you please, destroys your own argument.

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          34. James Bowen April 23, 2014

            Yes they do, but deportation is not one of them. Deportation is a corrective administrative action, much like taking the cash back from a bank robber. Law enforcement means actions must be taken. Those actions are not necessarily punishments, but do include them.

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          35. Russell Byrd July 6, 2014

            Doubtful, but I GUARANTEE, if you behaved this way when dealing with the friendlies, they would cut your fat gut open and rip your guts out. AND you would deserve it.

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          36. elw March 13, 2014

            What a strange response. I do not believe you are talking about my world, because In my world I get to talk, think, speak and worship how I see fit.

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          37. angelsinca March 14, 2014

            Good for you. Why do you find it necessary to prevent others (conservatives) from doing the same?

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          38. Russell Byrd March 14, 2014

            Not only a bold faced liar, but simple reading and reasoning skills escape you. What elw said is quite true. You just do not want to hear that. We are not the ones mad that someone is stopping our “right” to bully “others.” In your view, if you cannot run someone else’s life, you are being deprived and harmed.

            Eat all the shit you want, pray to any demon you want, say any damn foolishness and lies you want [somewhere else, however], believe any racist thing you please. Just stop practicing your hatred on the rest of us. We are not stopping you from doing or saying anything. Just treat other people with respect.

            If you did that, then you would not receive the whippings that I am always dishing out to you. BUt, I do realize you are too stupid, dishonest, mean, and evil to do so. So, go for it some more and see where it gets you.

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          39. angelsinca March 14, 2014

            Russell Byrd wrote:

            “you are too stupid, dishonest, mean, and evil”
            “Eat all the shit you want”
            “a coward like you”
            “Dear idiot”
            “No one wants to be a part of misery like you”
            “You just dribble your verbal diarrhea”
            “You are the filthy, lying bastard”
            “you are just a disgusting coward”
            “you are despised by everyone”
            “You are one not so special creep”
            “You are the lowest form of coward”

            and then proceeds to preach,
            “Just treat other people with respect.”

            LOL.

            I would’ve taken your mostly personal attacks with special concern. But it appears you practice the same relentless bullying wherever you go, Byrd. Be proud. The blog is yours to crap in. Here’s your rope.

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          40. Russell Byrd March 14, 2014

            Well, you just proved you are a liar again. You take my words out of context. Therefore, all your garbage is irrelevant.

            As for “bullying wherever you go,” I only go to three groups on odd occasions. The one I go to the most, “Daily Kos,” I am not even registered to post.

            YOU are the one that practices” the same relentless bullying wherever you go.” You are the one trying to disrupt and cause angst with everyone you disagree with. With an occasional exception, the only abuse I dish out is to YOU.

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          41. Russell Byrd March 14, 2014

            I AM HERE BECAUSE FILTH LIKE YOU IS HERE. Understand!!! If you were to post truthfully and civilly, then you would not hear from me. As for
            my bullying, show me where.

            You on the other hand will never quit until you have closed down a discussion. Why don’t you say your peace and leave! You know very well your lies are not welcome. Yet you come to this “MINOR” blog and run your bullying into the ground. You go on, and on, and on, and on, and on . . . the only piece of scum worse than you is lana ward. Of course, “anal” is another gender bender. Just like you.

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          42. angelsinca March 15, 2014

            Give it a rest, Russell. If it wasn”t me, you’d be attacking some other passerby. It’s what you do. You’re like the guy being tailgated that slams on his brakes then blames the guy behind him for causing the accident.

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          43. Russell Byrd March 15, 2014

            Like I said, once I figured out that you were a pathological liar that would never listen to reason, everything you could possibly say to me lost any sting whatsoever. Like now.

            You are the one that avoids the subject of articles. You are the one that avoids the questions that you are asked.
            You are the one that everyone hates.
            You are the one that tells some of the most incredible lies. Lies that everyone knows are lies.
            You make obviously false claims constantly.
            If you and your bullying, trolling scum were not here, I might not ever post. I went years without doing so. I only come here when I see you playing your disgusting games.

            So keep lying. I could not give a damn. It is your vocation.

            About you teaching your son to step on the rights of others . . . I am dead serious. Like I said, that little disgusting criminal punk is a real chip off the old gender bending parent turd. He obviously got a habit of mistreating anyone that would give him half a chance. Maybe, he got a penchant for gender bending from you as well. I bet he is a lot of fun around the old cell block.

            Now whine and cry. You had it coming.

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          44. Russell Byrd March 14, 2014

            As for personal attacks, that is in your own evil
            little wet dreams. All I am doing is getting your attention, which somegood posters have noticed, keeps you occupied and out of other people’s hair. And I love doing it, because I am much better at it then you, and am totally dedicated when I start. I rather enjoy smashing your inanity. Much more so, when I got over the fact that you will NEVER change, because you really are that much of a stupid, lying, sociopath.

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          45. Russell Byrd March 14, 2014

            You talk as if you are leaving. Yet, we both know you are not. You are always threatening, but you do not have the moral fiber to do anything good. When sh*t like you is gone, then I will go back to merely reading
            the blog. I was not even registered to post until I had had a gut full of your evil, lying, nonsense.

            So, why do you not go to one of your “MAJOR” blogs where all the posters are haters like you? Why not? Go where you are welcome and stop trying to cause harm and “shut down the conversation,” as you have said.

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          46. Russell Byrd March 14, 2014

            In context, “Just treat other people with respect. THEN I will treat YOU with respect.”

            But you just can’t see anyone in this blog as a person unless they are kissing your a**.

            By the way, even out of context, my statements are still true!

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          47. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            I see you too are dealing with this blowhard idiot who, when he runs out of arguments, resorts to vicious personal attacks. Then he has the gaul to talk about compassion for others.

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          48. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            You would be a good match for our resident troll. Angelstink has been badgering and bullying and trolling for years in here. It talks just like you. Makes wild claims that set the entire blog on fire. Racism, homophobia, hatred, total ignorant lies, over and over and over and over. It stated goal is to breakup conversation in this blog. Angel is a total f*cktard and proud Teatard, JUST LIKE YOU.

            Just like you, “it” claims to be one thing, but always says another . . . and then denies its own facts.
            So believe me, take up with angelstink, and everyone will know you for who you really are. You will be seen as the totally useless liar you are.

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          49. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            Sounds like what you are describing is not me but you.

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          50. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            Lame answer from a mental midget that thinks lying is proof. I guess that is the best you can do. Go ahead and take up with angelstink. You know, we do not even know what sex angel is? Seems to be a guy, but it will adopt a female role if it seems advantageous. Like I said, take up with that one, and everyone will know what you really are. As well, believe me, you will get burned.

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          51. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            Well it does seem like you described yourself pretty well.

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          52. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            Na, na, nana, na. Did not! Boohoohoo, Jimbos being mean to me. Boohoohoo.

            Seriously, refer to what I posted above. Your post did nothing to change the situation.

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          53. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            Except you haven’t posted anything that answers my questions or refutes what I say.

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          54. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            I have answered your question seven times now, Jimbo. I have no obligation to buy into your no merit argument to please an egotistical b*st*rd like you. I correct your faulty, racist reasoning, and answer on what is real. Sorry, if it does not please you. I will not kiss your a**. I am not like you, and I have not incentive to. So sad, too bad.

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          55. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            You did yesterday (by agreeing with me), but then you backtracked. We cannot support an ever-expanding population. You can’t answer that question because there is no answer.

            At least I am not a traitor.

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          56. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            Yes, you are a traitor and a racist. I see you at least stopped contesting the racist part.

            You are a mentally ill person, Jimbo. You see only what you want to see, and worse, you have a god complex.

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          57. James Bowen March 18, 2014

            You are the one who wants to replace Americans with aliens, not me. That is treason. Call me a racist all you want, I know it isn’t true, and even if it was, it would be any worse that being an outright jerk like you who hides behind the safety of a computer screen.

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          58. Russell Byrd March 18, 2014

            BS, Jimbo, how many times can a child like you ask the same debunked question? You have gained zero ground.

            Like all of the far-right wackjobs, you want to set the rules of discussion. Based of course on falsehoods. Then you demand that everyone give you the answer your vile, evil, moronic tiny mind has decided on in advance.

            That is not discussion, and as I have said, the adult is now in charge.

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          59. James Bowen March 19, 2014

            Wanting to replace Americans with illegal aliens who forced their way in is treason. Please prove me wrong and tell me you don’t want to do this, that you want to send them home.

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          60. Russell Byrd March 19, 2014

            A lie debunked on numerous occasions, but repeated in order to continue an antagonistic discussion from a woefully sick personality

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          61. James Bowen March 19, 2014

            Then tell me you don’t want to replace Americans and that we should expel illegals.

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          62. Russell Byrd March 19, 2014

            You will have to kiss your own ass, racist. Of course, a dog like you can probably lick it clean.

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          63. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            1. I never proposed replacing Americans.
            2. I explained in great detail what is wrong with your racist wants and needs.
            3. If you cannot understand any of this, then maybe we should just fall back to compulsory family planning and birth control.
            4. I have not and will not adopt your disgusting racist attitudes and viewpoints. This has been explained to you in an unmistakeable manner previously.

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          64. James Bowen April 20, 2014

            If you want illegals to stay, than you support displacing Americans. We have limited jobs and limited resources, and the more people we have, the smaller the slice of the pie gets for everyone.

            As for compulsory family planning and birth control, that really would not get us very far because native-born Americans already have sub-replacement fertility. It is necessary to reduce immigration to stabilize our population.

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          65. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            Your reasoning is like saying that a man might actually enjoy the smell of raw sewage, so he must like your ideas as well. On the other hand, you may be right, because both stink equally bad.

            Why do you lie so much? Americans have “sub-replacement” fertility because 95% of women will use birth control at some time in their life. Add abortion to that mix and our population is not falling because of a want of reproductive capability. Modern families, and modern women, do not want to be saddled with those huge families that your right-wacko allies think they should have.

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          66. James Bowen April 21, 2014

            I agree that native-born Americans have low fertility because family planning and contraception are available to women, and strongly support that. If it wasn’t for post-1970 immigration, both legal and illegal, our population would be approaching stabilization by now. We must maintain access to low-cost family planning and contraceptives in this U.S., and we must also reduce immigration and fully enforce our immigration laws. Thus far we are doing the former (and need to keep doing so), and we must do the latter. Both are necessary to reverse growth.

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          67. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            False concept + false data = false conclusion.

            That is not Fizzicks, by the way, but Seventh grade general math.

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          68. James Bowen April 22, 2014

            It is indisputable that the great majority of our post-1970 population growth is due directly or indirectly to immigration. Here is more information: https://www.numbersusa.com/pages/whats-problem. If we are to halt growth in the U.S. and Canada, immigration has to be reduce and illegals sent home.

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          69. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            Maybe, but you are off-topic, on an off-topic discussion, that you started off-topically to begin with. Whether you are right or wrong, you are still a blatant racist.

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          70. Russell Byrd June 8, 2014

            Like I said, Dumbozo, I log everything. Well, the tasty bits, anyway.

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          71. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            So, I guess you are not only a racist, liar, and bully, you are misogynist as well. Why am I not surprised?

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          72. James Bowen April 21, 2014

            Nothing I have said is a lie. In fact, you agree with me that we need to reverse growth.

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          73. Russell Byrd June 8, 2014

            Another apt repeat that reflects on how your ideas are seen and you are perceived personally:

            Glad you identify with the most egregious misbehaver in these blogs. You will surely be welcomed with open arms and adored like Juliu Caesar returning from a great victory.

            Sometimes, my sense of humor gets the better of me. 🙂

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          74. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            I have, I did, I do, I will.

            You have ignored and lied, you did ignore and lie, you are ignoring and lying, and you will ignore and lie.

            Let’s face it. I could not get through your thick skull with a ten megaton thermonuclear device.

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          75. James Bowen April 20, 2014

            Then you agree with me that we should reduce immigration and send all illegals home?

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          76. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            Hahahahaha! How childish you are Jimmie Bozo. I told you I will never agree with a racist. If you are going to play games, you need to at least have a clue as to how it is played.

            So, like I said, grow a pair of balls and take on the true perpetrators. Stop trying to bully the weak. Be a man and take on a real challenge.

            Of course, my vote is for deporting lazy, racist, whiners that would rather see the nation destroyed than prosper in peace. Sorry, if your lack of education has you stuck in a McJob!

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          77. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Russell Byrd proposing a ‘peaceful America’?? How refreshing is THAT??? Too bad it involves selectively deporting those he disagrees with.

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          78. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            You blew that one, oops, of course you always have done a lot of blowing.

            If deporting the lazy, evil, useless, sacks of rotten meat, such as yourself, would give us a peaceful America, then why not? Hmm? Sounds like an accomplishment any decent citizen should be justly proud of. AMEN to that.

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          79. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Be proud; you are the hate filled America.

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          80. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            It’s 6:43 P.S.T. right now. Is this all you have to do? Do you have a life? THANKS, for continuing to prove that I have you perfectly pegged.

            And again, thanks for at leaving some other poor soul alone for at least this one post. By the way, you know “we” are going to find you some day soon. Make of it what you will. Har-ass-er!

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          81. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Russell Byrd wrote: “By the way, you know “we” are going to find you some day soon. Make of it what you will.”

            Sounds like a believable, collaborative threat. What do you expect to do when you ‘find’ me, sport? Thanks for the post. This one ought to be ample evidence to ALERT THE FBI. Take a break Russell. You are getting in way over your head.

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          82. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Alert the FBI. You will go away for criminal harassment. Are you so sick and stupid that you think that you belong in these “minor liberal blogs.” Everyone here hates you with the exception of “anal ward,” and Jim Dumbozo (He won’t after he gets to know you. You are too much alike.), and a few other head cases. Are you so sick and perverted you cannot figure this out? Well, I guess that was a dumb question, but I have trouble reconciling people driven by mental illness . . .like you. I really believe you know exactly what you are doing. You are just plain evil, if you ask me. “Educate” the blog posters. You have nothing to teach.

            What do I intend to do? Bring you a box of chocolates, of course.

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          83. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            I am proud. I want a peaceful America for all our people. You just
            want an America that does what you want and to Hell with anyone you
            dislike or disagree with.

            Look at your media. One hate filled
            lie after another. Always someone is dragging the country down. Never
            the truth, and never anything good to say about anyone, UNLESS, you are
            white, male, straight, gun toting, and a right-wacko asshole.

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          84. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            We want the same thing. Unfortunately, your solution is politicide with a thorough cleansing of all things you deem unacceptable. You were born 70 years too late and on the wrong continent.

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          85. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Your post really is nonsensical. If I were born 70 years to late, then I would be a man of the current times. More sensibly, you were born 70 years too early. In the days when being a white, gun-toting, male, misogynistic, racist was considered acceptable. What this spiel about wrong continent? You mean that treating everyone fairly is anti-American. Times have changed, you old bastard. Your ideas are on the way out.

            And you do all this showing of your ass in a “minor liberal blog.” How sick and pathetic a life you have.

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          86. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            I rather think that, “you were born 70 years too late and on the wrong continent.” Yep, you would have fit in well with the Third Reich. You racist, freedom and Democracy hating son-of-a-bitch.

            Total f*cking nonsense. You want to use hate to keep things entirely inyour comfort zone. “To Hell with everyone else,” is your motto. So you are admitting that fair treatment for all people is against your creed. You have admitted that you think lying, racism, bullying, and taking advantage of other people is the cat’s meow.

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          87. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Wrong again on all counts Russy. Even a blind monkey wiping his arse with your keyboard would be right more often. Try on the truth for once. You shouldn’t burst into flames (too quickly).

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          88. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            I will stand on the truth that I told. YOU are the one that is well known to never tell the truth, except when you are all hurt and whiny. Then you should just keep your mouth shut.

            EVERYONE, including your so-called allies, knows that just about everything you say is a lie. Intentional bold-face lies to boot.

            Again, what do you mean to accomplish. Everything in my post is true about you. Your reply just confirms the ass that you are.

            I often wonder how you can type with a straight jacket on. Is it with a pencil in your mouth?

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          89. James Bowen April 21, 2014

            The nation will be destroyed if we don’t enforce immigration laws (i.e. deport illegals) because we will be swamped. Yes, the employers who hired them need to be punished severely, but it is the presence in and of itself of such a large number of illegals that causes the damage.

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          90. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            What about your three consecutive introductory lies about your educational credentials.

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          91. Guest April 21, 2014

            …the adult is now in charge.

            LOL.

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          92. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Better than a 65 year old with a nine year old mentality like you. I bet you wear a blindfold at all the weenie roasts you go to. The anticipation excites you to no end, doesn’t it.

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          93. Russell Byrd March 18, 2014

            In your mind, you should get everything you want because you have it coming. What I find the worst is you do not care about the potential damage you do, nor do you accept any responsibility for that damage. (Sociopath!) You have no empathy. (Sociopath!)

            So let’s sum up, shall we. You probably live in your mom’s basement. You are certainly a 37 year old drop out, that might have a year of college. You might not have even finished high school. You probably have a criminal record, but not much as you are rather secretive. You perverted your good doctor’s theories, because he made them easily understandable to a rather unsophisticated, but hateful and unstable mind. ALL your vocabulary is taken directly from those theories. You have made the doctor your idol and hero, because you could twist his academics to fit your diseased view of life. I will continue later, if necessary.

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          94. Russell Byrd March 18, 2014

            As far as hiding behind a computer screen, you seem very satisfied to be a lame hypocrite.

            Actually,
            I had you figured out from the start, though I am open minded and gave
            you a chance. You are probably unable to hold a job because you are
            such a hateful, self-centered, deceitful, anti-social bastard. Like all of your
            kind, you always blame someone else for your short-comings. In your
            mind, someone is always to blame for something. It is how your diseased mind thinks.

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          95. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            Actually, after 6-700 posts, it has become apparent that we only need to replace about 1-3% of our population. We need to keep the immigrants and deport lazy, untrustworthy, dishonest, whiny, wastes of skin. Like you.

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          96. James Bowen April 20, 2014

            But we still need to reduce immigration and deport illegals to stabilize our population.

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          97. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            I am for deporting lazy, racist, whiners. Know whom I am talking about? 🙂

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          98. Russell Byrd April 19, 2014

            Nixon said, “I am not a crook,” but look what that got us.

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          99. James Bowen April 20, 2014

            I don’t want to replace Americans with foreign invaders–I want to repel that invasion. Therefore I am not a traitor.

            Regarding Nixon, he is the only President we have ever had who tried to do something to halt population growth. He is the one who started the public family planning programs that did much to bring native fertility down to sub-replacement levels. Whatever his faults, if you want to compare me with Nixon, I consider that an honor.

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          100. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            If you had anywhere near normal reasoning skills, you would know that I am only contrasting your lack of veracity with Mr. Nixon’s lack of the same. In other words, I am comparing you with Nixon’s worst traits. Not something anyone would be proud of. At least, not if that had a normal morality.

            So, the simple version goes like this. You are PROUD to have your lies considered on an equal basis with Mr. Nixon’s lie. Cool, maybe we will get to the bottom of your pathology before long.

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          101. James Bowen April 21, 2014

            You keep calling me a liar, yet you have basically agreed with what I am saying.

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          102. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Well, the old conundrum again. You just told an easily confirmable lie. We agreed on nothing of value. Yes, there are one or two details where we see things the same. However, your solutions, though you are trying to slowly “spin” your way out of that mess, are all racist, where mine in contrast, are not. Therefore you rather proved that I was right. I was only wrong in crediting you with one less lie than you actually told. 🙂

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          103. James Bowen April 22, 2014

            We agree that growth need to be reversed. The solutions you brought up are what needs to be done. As far as I know that is agreement.

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          104. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            No, that is not. Anyway, your sick need for capitulation, as well as your racism, means we can never agree. Agreement with you is only for your purposes of perverting discussion.

            Only a person lacking in education and intelligence, would think that self-centered arrogance, and low-brow ignorance will suffice in normal conversation.

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          105. James Bowen April 23, 2014

            Then you are saying that growth does not need to be reversed? If so, back to the question: how are going to indefinitely sustain our numbers?

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          106. Russell Byrd April 19, 2014

            Except, for one little thing. You are another right-wacko, chronic, pathological liar.

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          107. James Bowen April 20, 2014

            Everything I have said is true to the best of my knowledge.

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          108. Russell Byrd April 20, 2014

            Hmm? Your knowledge is near non-existent, therefore your “truth” is also near non-existent.

            Nothing new, but I like how you said that.

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          109. Russell Byrd April 19, 2014

            Where you are headed Bozo Bobo, the air is heavy with the foul odor of roasted behinds. 🙂

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          110. angelsinca March 17, 2014

            By association, I feel compelled to apologize to you James for being treated so poorly by the Byrd blogger. Please don’t take anything he says personally. You aren’t the first and surely won’t be the last to be victimized by this powder puff. One day a sys admin may realize they ought to shut him down because the liability meter is pegging. See you around.

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          111. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            I doubt if ole Jimbo wants to get any closer to you. I realize that all you are doing is screaming for help as you are totally at sea in dealing with me.

            But go ahead and knock you useless carcass out trying. What about that deal I offered? Very fair!

            Of course, all one has to do is look at our profiles. I do not troll the liberal groups as you do. I only came for little old you . . . . HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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          112. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            Thanks angelsinca.

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          113. Russell Byrd April 19, 2014

            If you thank that one, Bobo, I do feel sorry for you. At the first opportunity, you will find yourself bent over a rail with your drawers around your ankles. Go ahead, t-r-u-s-t our gentle, beneficent “angel.” Unfortunately, Heaven is not the only place that has “angels.”

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          114. Russell Byrd July 6, 2014

            Ah, isn’t love (between two perverts) grand? Probably not.

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          115. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Yes, kiss “its” ass if you so please. You might find out that the taste is indescribably awful.

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          116. Russell Byrd April 19, 2014

            Ask around. You are going to be a big hit here in the future. You cannot master the “pulling my thumb out of my ass,” much less the “gentle art of persuasion.”

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          117. Russell Byrd July 6, 2014

            What is this, a mutual stroking club? Sheesh!

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          118. angelsinca March 16, 2014

            No bother James. It’s kind of sad though, if not pathetic, to see people like this squirm so much.

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          119. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            You are the one squirming, worm. . . . 🙂

            Looks like racists of a feather flock together.

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          120. angelsinca March 16, 2014

            Try another button, Russell. Most of the ones you are trying to push aren’t working. It seems you don’t just don’t quite understand what a racist is. Maybe this will help:

            rac·ist ˈrāsist/ noun
            1.a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
            synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist”he was exposed as a racist”
            (racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted “a racist society”

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          121. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            Thanks for clarifying and proving that you are a racist. I was making this too hard. You not only believe all those things, but have said so to boot.

            Push your buttons? I have told you repeatedly EXACTLY what I am doing, AND you are too stupid to figure it out. I realize the truth is too shocking for your vicious, evil mind to handle, but try to at least think IN THE BOX, if you can’t out of it.

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          122. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            Thanks angelsinca. It is.

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          123. Russell Byrd April 19, 2014

            Glad you identify with the most egregious misbehaver in these blogs. You will surely be welcomed with open arms and adored like Julius Caesar returning from a great victory.

            Sometimes, my sense of humor gets the better of me. 🙂

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          124. Russell Byrd June 8, 2014

            The only one that was ever squirming in these conversations was angelstink. “It” complains constantly about being harassed while it harasses the regular posters. Like all of you, you come where you are unwelcome to spew hate and lies, then you are hurt because the conversation becomes too personal.

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          125. Russell Byrd June 9, 2014

            Good morning Mr. Queeg. Still squirming over the fact that the human race does not live by an idiotic equation. Sure, it is a useful tool, but it does not feed the world anymore than pure hot air does. Nor does it govern everyday life.

            Thanks again dirtbag, for refusing to listen out of hand. Thanks also for stealing my idea and then trying to sneak it by me as some proof of your failed BS.

            You never wanted an answer to your question, you just want me to say that you are right. Sick man you are Dumbozo. You are wrong, AND you proved it yourself.

            To paraphrase John Prine, some humans aren’t human, but mean. That aptly describes you. You have the added trait of being a racist. Maybe, I could suggest that we can feed the world’s millions with your expanding ego. Of course, most people will not eat crap. I certainly will never eat any of your BS.

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          126. James Bowen June 9, 2014

            The equation is just a demonstration that in the real world our growth will be checked one way or the other. You agree with this. The answer I was seeking was one of how we are going to deal with this problem. That’s all.

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          127. Russell Byrd July 6, 2014

            No, why would I ever agree with a monolithic idiot. You need and demand someone agree. I never agree with the unreasonable, and certainly never agree with a racist bully.

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          128. James Bowen July 6, 2014

            I recall that you did concede that growth cannot last forever.

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          129. Russell Byrd July 6, 2014

            1. I only proposed that growth MIGHT not go on for ever.
            2. It factually has NOTHING to do with the conversation. When and if growth ends is in the future. You speak of actions now. You cannot have it both ways, and always, just because you have delusions of grandeur.
            3. Your own “dog on a leash” equation was used, BY YOU, to give a ridiculously long time span, therefore, rendering your entire discussion moot.

            Glad to have been of service. This discussion is dead, though WE still have issues.

            Like your slur of me about what would happen to me if I said these things in public. Well, unlike yourself, I do not hang around with dangerous WHITE racist felons that are heavily armed. Just like the Target backlash over automatic weapons, the MAJORITY of America is a-b-s-o-l-u-t-e-l-y against you. You need to get away from Stormfront. The facts are, if you went into fully half the neighborhoods in this Nation, spewing your filth, you would be dead within the hour. And 90% of the rest would be telling you to get the Hell out before you got killed and they had to clean up your disgusting carcass. So, I do not care whether you spew the racist garbage you are thinking in response to the truth.

            The shit like you IS, or rather, was winning elections, but only because right-wing voters are mindless, or at best, because they have been scared away from more reasonable liberal policies, AND most of our electorate is not motivated to vote. What kind of platform and what kind of nation runs on hate? Not my America.

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          130. James Bowen July 7, 2014

            Growth will not go on forever. It is a physical impossibility. The equation I used demonstrated that the mass of all humans would equal the Earth’s non-bacterial biomass in 500 years. That is not a long time span at all (think–500 years ago was not that long ago), and well before that natural processes will halt our growth.

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          131. Russell Byrd July 8, 2014

            This post is a total LIE:

            1. I never knew about your 500 year bullshit.
            2. I do not agree with your 500 year bullshit.
            3. You calculated 2800 years. You are only changing it because you know how ridiculous I made you look.
            4. You were told that your equation did not, and could not be applied to living, breathing humans.
            5. The fact that you made the change shows you have zero intellectual or personal integrity.
            6. 500 years, even if considered, still tends to make you and your theories look like fools.
            7. 500 years is a short time geologically, but 500 years on average, is 25 generations. Still invalid.
            8. By seeing the need to rely, er, eh, RE-LIE, you prove my comments about your falsehood, and your equations failure as a tool predicting anything.

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          132. James Bowen July 8, 2014

            No, I redid the calculation using the Earth’s estimated non-bacterial biomass as the finishing point instead. That turned out to be about 500 years. You even replied something to the effect that 500 years is long time in the future, which it is not. What do you disagree with regarding this calculation–whether it is going to happen or not? If you don’t think it will, that is my whole point–it won’t. It will be halted one way or another. What I propose is to avoid that another.

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          133. Russell Byrd July 8, 2014

            You do not have the right to “recalibrate” your discussion. That is an admission that you were wrong all along, and indicates doubt that you have any truth to impart now. You are just a chronic liar and a damn bad one at that.

            Do you now admit that your entire argument, your insults, and your harassing, were totally in error and uncalled for. No matter, that is exactly what you have demonstrated, regardless of what lies you tell.

            Now, make a case to prove these: Prove that your equation applies to the human race. Prove that it applies to living breathing human beings. You never have, and you never have tried.

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          134. James Bowen July 9, 2014

            No, I was right all along, and you even begrudgingly agreed with some of my main points.

            The equation applies to the human race because the Earth’s ecosystem cannot possibly sustain a human population whose mass is equal to that of the ecosystem. It does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

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          135. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Except your post is a total pack of lies as I have destroyed this very line several times before.

            Once again, whether 500 or 2800 years is your target, and even if there is any truth to your bullshit, the only relevance of any of your nonsense is to a racist.

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          136. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            There are no lies here. If there are, point them out. Show me where the lies are.

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          137. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            You said in another post, that you did not redo the calculation.

            I really think you have spoofed the real James Bowen. Even your vocabulary suggests about sophomore college level.

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          138. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            I did redo the calculation. It’s basically the same calculation, only using the mass of the Earth’s non-bacterial biomass instead of the Earth’s mass.

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          139. Russell Byrd July 8, 2014

            You talk about lying. I have pointed out at least a dozen tonight. You will never rebut any of them, but you reserve the right to LIE. Well, meathead, keep on lying. I will keep callin’ ’em as I sees ’em.

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          140. James Bowen July 8, 2014

            Nothing I have said has been a lie. If you disagree, point out specifically the untruths and back them up with evidence.

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          141. Russell Byrd July 9, 2014

            Actually, this post of yours is a lie. You misrepresented yourself in the first posts we ever exchanged. You lie about my agreeing with you, and constantly. You seem to need to force people to obey. I do not obey criminals and liars, so obviously, I will never agree with you.

            I certainly must refuse otherwise, because you have been given this information hundreds, literally hundreds of times. Yet, you refuse even to comment on your record of continual lies. So, I will leave this to the “court of public opinion,” or the moderator, which I have been assured, will be showing up.

            I realize that you are mentally deranged, and like all sociopathic minds, you have little fear as you do not have any empathy for your fellow man. Yet, that is your problem, and is no skin off my ass.

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          142. James Bowen July 10, 2014

            Again, you have not displayed any evidence now or before of me being a liar.

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          143. Russell Byrd July 10, 2014

            Well, since that post is an obvious and willful lie, I guess that makes 838. Sorry, if I got your lies out of order.

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          144. James Bowen July 11, 2014

            Insults and rants do not count as evidence that I am a liar.

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          145. Russell Byrd July 11, 2014

            But your own words do. . . . Obviously. 🙂

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          146. James Bowen July 12, 2014

            No, everything I have said is truthful to the best of my knowledge. I have provided ample background to back up my positions as well.

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          147. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Are you blind, deaf, etc.? Is your IQ smaller than you belt size. No, that wouldn’t be right anyway, your belt size is big enough you would classify as a moron. That is far too smart.

            You have provided about one-tenth of what I have. Yet, you REQUIRE me to continue giving you more facts, that you immediately ignore, while you provide nothing in return. That is why I have said I will “provide” exactly what I please.

            AND, my dear shit breath faggot, what about the articles I cited late Friday and early Saturday. Failure to respond to EXACTLY the sort of data you requested proves you have no truth in anything you post. It proves you are a useless, bullying, liar.

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          148. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            Which articles did you cite? Are you talking about that Daily Kos article? That did not answer anything I was looking for. The bottom line is that you have not provided anything except for personal attacks. I am not really even sure what it is you are trying to argue. The only times you have answered my questions are when you begrudgingly agreed with some of my main points.

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          149. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Where’s the reply to my argument? I know you don’t have one, because you never had one. All you want in a conversation, is someone to kiss your ass.

            Sorry, I am fresh out of that. Kiss you will have to bend down real low and kiss your own ass.

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          150. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            Which argument?

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          151. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            How about my twice made request to call in a third party moderator to decide what the arguments are. I have not heard anything yet.

            Yesterday, I gave you a perfectly good citation, in fact several, that went directly to the discussion. As I PREDICTED you lied about the articles lacking information. Which is why I ceased posting citations to begin with. Not by my actions, BUT yours.

            I will contact your department head at UK. My reason will be simple. Someone is spoofing the real James Bowen. Surely, no one with an advanced degree can be this stupid and dishonest, especially someone that claims to be an “officer and a gentleman.”

            It’s coming, don’t think I threaten. I never do, BUT I do want you to know I am going to do it. More interesting that way.

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          152. James Bowen July 15, 2014

            The article made no mention of Democrat and independents voting specifically to get rid of Cantor. I agree, let’s bring a moderator in.

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          153. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            How do you suggest we proceed. I would not mind a high ranking professor from your University, for a whole variety of reasons. Not your mentor, and no one from your department until I have had a little chat with them. Preferably, someone from another school or a third party unaffiliated with the school at all. In that case, no one from Kansas. . . .

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          154. James Bowen July 16, 2014

            How about a website moderator?

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          155. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            How about yet again another article addressing that gerrymandering you claim to be such an expert on. Will, or can, you read this one too. You have had a zero track record so far.

            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/14/1313946/-Smoking-Gun-Emails-Released-in-Texas-Gerrymandering-Trial?detail=email

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          156. James Bowen July 16, 2014

            It is no great revelation that GOP-controlled states gerrymander, just as it is no great revelation that Democrat-controlled states gerrymander as well.

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          157. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            Remember, for me to “win” just this one point, all I have to do is provide a mass of articles proving that my view overwhelmingly exists. While you deny any of the evidence. Remember, you are the one that says that my evidence does not exist, though I have provided some that you refuse to acknowledge. That has been the problem all along. You came to insult people’s intelligence with your bullying, ego, god complex, but opposing evidence goes in the trash unread.

            YOU are the one always claiming I am the one always objecting, because your view is false. So, give me some options so we may get this thing done.

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          158. James Bowen July 16, 2014

            As you suggested, a psychologist sounds like a good option, so long as he/she is a neutral party and not unduly familiar with either one of us. Perhaps just an ordinary website moderator would do too.

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          159. Russell Byrd July 16, 2014

            You are so full of shit it is pathetic. Either way, is OK. But, I know you do not dare do it. So, let’s play your game of chicken. Like I have been honestly telling you all along, I am not going to blink.

            You insulted me in your very first post, and you have used repeated dishonest tactics to strive to force me to agree with your hate and lies and evil. Like I have told you, I can leave tomorrow, but I will not as long as you think you are about to win a great victory. Evil needs to be opposed and you think that which each passing day, you are about to “win.” WIN WHAT?

            Winning means very little to me. Denying that big win to you, is every reward I need. You demonstrate a refusal to admit evidence, but you want the sole ability to decide the direction of conversation.

            Seriously, we have never, never had a discussion. The great James Bowen speak, THEN the paper doll opposition grovels at your feet. Well, YOU PICKED WRONGLY. Like I told you, I only troll trolls. Rarely, will you find me somewhere else besides here. And you just come here to troll. YOU come to acquire TARGETS to shoot down, NOT read the articles.

            So, CALL FOR THE MODERATOR. Let’s just see what happens.

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          160. Russell Byrd July 16, 2014

            You are just smart enough to know, that a Clinician will be appalled by your mental irregularities. That is the reason that some people are considered insane, but not criminally insane, for they retain enough sanity to understand what they are doing is wrong.

            So, go ahead! You are just stalling for time.

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          161. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            Yes, but the article is not exactly “liberal” friendly, and makes it quite plain that Brat did not “win,” but that Cantor lost because the GOP faithful was either to confident, to tired, or too disillusioned to go to the polls.

            Now, with those facts firmly supported by the article, how do you think the number of votes cast was higher than normal. Hmm?

            Saying Brat supporters is not the answer. The article already took that lie off the table. So who were these people anyway?

            Again, who were all those EXTRA voters? Not Brat supporters as the article makes reasonably plain.

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          162. James Bowen July 16, 2014

            Are you kidding? The article specifically states that it is a possibility that the GOP voters there turned against him.

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          163. Russell Byrd July 16, 2014

            No I am NOT kidding, dickhead. Where’s that Clinician at, by the way?

            If you had half sense and any honesty, you would realize that what you just said is the EXACT basis of what I have been saying.

            The voters did NOT vote for Brat, but against Cantor. And all this in an article that is not exactly “liberal” friendly.

            You just have to bullying your way through to being right, and I am totally immune to this idiocy. Yes, you are an idiot. Look it up. The origins of the word describe you completely.

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          164. James Bowen July 17, 2014

            Whether they voted for Brat or against Cantor, Brat was the reason for it.

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          165. Russell Byrd July 17, 2014

            You have already lost that point at least a half a dozen times. You are just employing your same old tired queer boy tactic of just going back and claiming the same lie is true all over again. I don’t care. Just more REAL abuse to show the moderator.

            And, by the way, I doubt if they will act, but I am in the process of writing that letter to Memo. I also will have the letter to your school ready in a few more days. I am in no hurry. I have years ahead to deal with you.

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          166. James Bowen July 18, 2014

            No, it is you who have lost your point. You have shown me nothing to back it up. That article you sent me, if anything, backed up my argument.

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          167. Russell Byrd July 18, 2014

            You have acted consistently with my predictions. Even the cowardly end-run around the moderator. My colleagues have assured me that my assessment of you is too mild. That something must be done about you before you commit an act of violence.

            As for the argument, YOU LOST, and that, REPEATEDLY. As I said, posting evidence to you is futile, and that was the last you will ever get.

            So, go back to sucking on those Kochroaches, Teabagger. You are as queer as a three dollar bill.

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          168. James Bowen July 18, 2014

            The only evidence you posted was something that backed up my argument.

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          169. Russell Byrd July 18, 2014

            Except it didn’t cock breath.

            Why again are you doing this?

            1. This time I will never cease posting to you.
            2. You tell lies that have no effect, because we both know you do nothing but lie.
            3. So why lie? This time next year, you will still be lying, and I will still not give a shit about any of the tripe you spew.
            4. My point is, you are causing me no harm whatsoever.

            Unlike yourself, I do not troll. As you should be able to see this for yourself. So, every post you make to me, is just one less you can fuck with some decent person with. Don’t get me wrong, please, PLEASE, do continue, but I always try to understand the motivation, or in your case, pathology that drives treasonous, hateful, racists like you.

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          170. James Bowen July 21, 2014

            Ah, but it did. I read it and there was almost nothing that supported your far-fetched argument in it.

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          171. Russell Byrd July 21, 2014

            More mere boasts and lies from a proven racist. Dimbozo lost the argument months ago, but continues to bully and harass against someone that cannot be harmed or budged by his behavior. All to accomplish what?

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          172. Russell Byrd July 21, 2014

            Why do you hate America so much?

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          173. Russell Byrd July 21, 2014

            Why do you want to see America as a pariah amongst nations?

            Reply
          174. Russell Byrd July 21, 2014

            Why do you want to see America destroyed and would commit treason to ensure this?

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          175. Russell Byrd July 21, 2014

            Why are you such a racist?

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          176. Russell Byrd July 21, 2014

            Like I said, I do not troll. I have nothing better to do than ruin your day. In fact, I was ceasing to post at all. I never did post regularly. I only respond to the rampant trolls in these groups. In order to deal with me, you will at least have to let a few other decent people alone.

            So, as always, I WIN! I have been right on every point. I even know you like for the ignorant egotistical bastard that you are. You entertain me every time you post. I have only failed to carry out my plans because it just does not seem fair to whoop up on some puny asshole like you.

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          177. Russell Byrd July 22, 2014

            Good morning, dirtbag. Welcome to your new reality. I hope you finally managed to sober up after that three day drunk.

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          178. Russell Byrd July 22, 2014

            Really, why do you hate America so much?

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          179. Russell Byrd July 25, 2014

            This sack of shit will demand “evidence,” but will immediately discard anything you say as irrelevant. All the while, he offers nothing in return but lies. He cannot understand a world where his kind does not rule and he does not always have the last word.

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          180. Russell Byrd July 25, 2014

            Make no mistake shit sack, I am not threatening you. Yet, after the threats you made to me, you should feel very, very lucky. If we HAD met, I would have split your head to your Adam’s Apple with an ax, right off. You think you are god, but you are lucky if you equate with a pit of hog shit.

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          181. Russell Byrd July 18, 2014

            For the willfully ignorant, and unbelievably arrogant pile of stinking human waste, I will repost the comment you really should have been addressing:

            You have acted consistently with my predictions. Even the cowardly end-run around the moderator. My colleagues have assured me that my assessment of you is too mild. That something must be done about you before you commit an act of violence.

            As for the argument, YOU LOST, and that, REPEATEDLY. As I said, posting evidence to you is futile, and that was the last you will ever get.

            So, go back to sucking on those Kochroaches, Teabagger. You are as queer as a three dollar bill.

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          182. James Bowen July 21, 2014

            But you haven’t posted any evidence, at least none that backs up any argument that you have made. As far as the moderator is concerned, I am all for bringing one in.

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          183. Russell Byrd July 21, 2014

            More lies from a proven liar. Anyway dickhead, you were all for a moderator before, until I showed you that I was really going to get one. Especially, the deal about a mental health professional really put you out, didn’t it?

            I am still laughing over that. Anyway, it has been three days since your last post. That is surrender if you ask me, and then you want to sneak back in. Forget the moderator. You are counting on the fact that you can lie your way out of it long enough that a moderator won’t bother. Well, I will just forget ever forgiving all your insults ever again, and do exactly what I said I would do.

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          184. James Bowen July 24, 2014

            I am all for bringing a moderator in, including a mental health professional.

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          185. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            Hey everyone, this waste of skin has been dodging my offer to do just that for a couple of weeks now. Why does he think anyone will believe him now? He is just LYING. Just like he always does.

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          186. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            Go ahead. DO IT! You confuse my fully justified foul language with your own mental unfitness. Your hate, bullying, lying, bigotry, and racism. Those are not normal traits. COMMON traits for the right-wackos, BUT not NORMAL.

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          187. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            Pub breath, I SAID, why don’t we bring in a psych professional to be moderator. You acknowledged that, and then you dodged the whole thing.

            I already know, a real mental health professional is going to ask exactly what I have been asking. WHAT are you trying to accomplish, and what does all this effort gain you? We both know, at least the one normal one does, that I will never agree with your lies and racism. As well, I will NEVER let you have the last word, for no other reason than it is so important to your warped psyche.

            I cannot picture you as a student. You cannot learn anything on your own, you do not understand the philosophy of learning, much less of your own “field,” and obviously, it is a waste of time trying to teach you anything.

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          188. James Bowen July 27, 2014

            I’m all for bringing a psych professional in too, or whatever else you want to call it.

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          189. Russell Byrd July 27, 2014

            Do you even know what it is?

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          190. Russell Byrd July 22, 2014

            Hello again.

            Do you ever read posts that others make to you, or is it you just know to always disagree?

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          191. James Bowen July 24, 2014

            This does not back up your argument either. The turnout in primary elections are low. That does not mean that what you said about the Brat primary is true.

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          192. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            One thing that is certainly proved, you are just a simple-minded lying cocksucker. Which is it, Dimfaggo? A low turn-out or a high turn-out?

            ROTFL! ROTFL! ROTFL!

            Man, you are just throwing away what worthless life you have.

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          193. James Bowen July 27, 2014

            Low turnout, but relatively high for a primary.

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          194. Russell Byrd July 27, 2014

            Except that you are trying to forget a whole lot of what you said. I won’t have it. You are just a liar.

            Anyway, you proved my point. Like ALL reputable sources said, the vote for Brat was swelled with Independents and Democrats that hated Cantor. Which, is exactly what I said to begin with. NOW, wasn’t that easy.

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          195. James Bowen July 28, 2014

            Again, where is your evidence for that? And if that was the case, where is your evidence that they were trying to get rid of Cantor by voting for someone they perceived as even more right wing? The latter question is the one that is far-fetched and demands evidence to back up such a fantastic claim.

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          196. Russell Byrd July 28, 2014

            Evidence was repeatedly given, and like everything with you, NEVER even considered in your rush to promote your racism. I now have eleven witnesses and I am going to write directly to Memo with the facts of the case.

            Ban me for cursing, maybe, but I imagine your days are very, very numbered.

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          197. James Bowen July 30, 2014

            I never saw any evidence, and I have read all of your posts.

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          198. Russell Byrd July 30, 2014

            You never saw anything that you chose not to see. For an individual that lies in every post, that is neither a surprise or an hardship to me. Insult, yes, but not a surprise.

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          199. James Bowen July 30, 2014

            I chose to see all of it, and saw nothing of substance in those posts.

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          200. Russell Byrd July 30, 2014

            You would do better if you came out of your self-loathing closet, Dimbozo. At least turn the light on. What you are seeing we normal people call darkness.

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          201. Russell Byrd July 30, 2014

            LIe! As usual.

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          202. Russell Byrd July 31, 2014

            You never saw anything that you chose not to see. For an individual
            that lies in every post, that is neither a surprise or an hardship to
            me. Insult, yes, but not a surprise.

            What other reply can there be. This IS YOUR FUTURE bub. I wonder how much time you have wasted, AND how many decent people had UNMOLESTED CONVERSATIONS while you wasted your time with me. And you will never break me. It has never been done, and it never has.

            I only bring this up for the entertainment value and satisfaction it gives me. You are a troll, but I have nothing better to do than you JUST TROLL YOU. So, you cannot ever win.

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          203. Russell Byrd July 28, 2014

            How many times can I dispose of the same set of lies. You do your own work. Oh, that’s right, you are entitled to suck up the “gravy,” but not required to produce anything.

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          204. James Bowen July 30, 2014

            You haven’t disposed of it even once.

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          205. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            It is a good thing you are typing, you enjoy sucking dick so much, you could not part with a cock long enough to say a coherent sentence.

            Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!

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          206. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            What we have here folks is a total waste of flesh. This piece of shit lies in every post, and persists with some grand delusion that I will agree with his racism, bigotry, and constant lies. Won’t happen, but it is sure fun.

            This piece of shit cannot understand the simple truth that I have related to him repeatedly. I TROLL trolls. That is all I do. And now, I have nothing else to do but troll his worthless ass.

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          207. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            The turnout in the Cantor loss was unusually high, and you were quite proud of that though it failed to prove any of your lies. Now, you tell a further lie that the turnout is low. Particularly hilarious when one considers we are talking about the same primary.

            BUSTED! You lose again.

            Score now is RB 21, Dimboz0. What we always called “getting skunked.” Of course, you are the one that reeks here. . . . LOL!

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          208. Russell Byrd July 26, 2014

            So, one post the turnout is high, and then you claim the turnout is low. What a prick of a LIAR.

            Damn, do you think you impress anyone with all your bullshit. Not me, and very few in this blog. That is a fact.

            Brat is well named and when I think of that word, I think of you as well. You must have been a real little doughboy prick as a kid. Liked to bully, didn’t you.

            Did daddy bend you over the bend for a beating, and then gave you a little extra “treat” afterward. Really, some is very badly damaged in your psyche.

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          209. James Bowen July 27, 2014

            I never claimed the turnout was high. I said it was low, but it was considerably higher than normal for a primary.

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          210. Russell Byrd July 27, 2014

            YES YOU DID!

            YOU NEVER SAID IT WAS LOW!

            In fact, I brought up how low turnout in primary elections is. Your response was to tell me that I was wrong, AS ALWAYS.

            Another damn insult from you (LIE), to attack the truth and defend an earlier insult.

            IF you did not want to converse, why did you come here? NO answer, right? At least one that you can blow by the moderator, anyway.

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          211. James Bowen July 28, 2014

            I said it was low but higher than normal.

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          212. Russell Byrd July 28, 2014

            Why is it so important to you. You still used the entire issue to promote more of your lies.

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          213. Russell Byrd July 26, 2014

            I noticed you are mum about the moderator again. Of course, I know you ALWAYS lie, so why do you think it will matter what bullshit you claim.

            You seem to want to suggest that a moderator will blame me for all the bad language, BUT I tell the truth, while you always lie. My insults to you are just blatant responses to the underlying disrespect that you have shown these blogs, the posters, and myself from the first off-topic post you made. That is, from the very first post you made.

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          214. James Bowen July 27, 2014

            I’m all for bringing the moderator in.

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          215. Russell Byrd July 27, 2014

            You know you are lying out your ass, cocksucker. Just like you have always done.

            You have earned every curse word I can throw at you. All you do is to try and control the conversation, bully, and lie. You have been doing it from the first post you ever made in this blog.

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          216. Russell Byrd July 27, 2014

            Here’s a little something for you, shitsack.

            ‘The intermingling of blood and the resulting decline in the racial standards is the sole cause of the downfall of all cultures, because people are not destroyed by losing wars, but by the loss of that power of resistance that is vested only in pure blood.’
            Adolf Hitlerin Mein Kampf

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          217. Russell Byrd July 27, 2014

            By the way, I WANT the mental health guy to evaluate ALL your posts.

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          218. Russell Byrd July 26, 2014

            Folks, do you know what the very first response from this sack of shit to me was. He wanted to claim higher moral and intellectual standing because he has a “master’s” degree. Well, so fucking what, I have one too, and a whole lot more undergrad and graduate qualifications besides.

            BUT, I do not bully people with that. Of course, when you are a treasonous, racist, bigoted, LYING, no argument bully like Jim Dimbozo, I guess that has to do. It is just about all that he’s got.

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          219. Russell Byrd July 29, 2014

            All this because you are an arrogant, egotistical, bullying, harassing liar with delusions of grandeur. Throw in incredibly rampant racism, that you are not even man enough to admit to, and we have some pile of stinking sewage.

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          220. Russell Byrd July 18, 2014

            My only question has been, and for some time now, are you really “James Bowen.”

            Face it, I will never stop posting to you this time. Everyday for ever, from now one. No remorse, no forgiveness. Even I were to want to stop, I have a half dozen colleagues that would love to have a go at you. I won’t allow that, but honor can only cover so many evils. As you have none, why should I give a damn about fair play?

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          221. Russell Byrd July 17, 2014

            Yeah, just as likely “Bonzo” was the reason for it. At least Bonzo was smarter than his “leading man.”

            You really need to learn a little logic. You keep contradicting yourself.

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          222. James Bowen July 18, 2014

            Brat presented Cantor as out of touch and being very close to big business. That is why they voted against Cantor.

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          223. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            My point in bringing this back up is very simple. You would rather lie and bully your way to forcing the other posters to cease, leaving you in charge of “the field.” You would rather do so than admit for even one second that the other party has even one tiny point. Your delusions of grandeur drive you to do so, and your lack of empathy just make you all the more disgusting.

            So, let the moderator be a Psych MD, or a clinician. I may go for any Psychology professor. Then heshe could shrink both of us at the same time they are deciding this little game.

            Reply
          224. James Bowen July 24, 2014

            Steve King rules!

            Like I said before, the anti-amnesty side is on the opposite side of big business and big donors, so they do not have the money to organize rallies like the pro-amnesty side does. Additionally, Americans who oppose amnesty are generally busy trying to make ends meet and do not have the time, money, or flexibility to attend such rallies. What they can do is contact Congress, and they have done so in numbers that exceed that of the pro-amnesty side by orders of magnitude.

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          225. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            Steve King sucks as much as you do. No wonder you are so in love with him.

            You are amazingly pathetic, but rather funny in your contrived attempts to always disagree regardless of the evidence arrayed against you.

            Do you think, “Steve King rules!” bothers me in the least. Like all bad shit, he will pass, and sooner than you would rather admit. LOL!

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          226. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            We have here an amazingly disagreeable bully with a psyche that must have, not only the last word, but complete agreement with all his racism and lies. My entire rationale is just to deny him his lame and meaningless life goal. There is just not much else going on with this sorry waste of skin.

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          227. Russell Byrd July 24, 2014

            Imagine, a sack of shit like Dimbozo who would throw away his entire life to gain absolutely nothing from someone that knows him like a book.

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          228. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            Why don’t we let a third party decide the argument?

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          229. James Bowen July 15, 2014

            Sounds good to me.

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          230. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            Why do you lie in every post?

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          231. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            I have provided hundreds of bits of “background” and you totally ignored all of it.

            What are you trying to accomplish? Get someone to kiss your ass when you bully with hundreds of lies.

            Don’t bother threatening me like you did with your “friend” angelstench. If you were in my presence, I would without hesitation show you the price of your deceit, hate, bullying, treason. lies, and racism.

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          232. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            No, you have not.

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          233. Russell Byrd July 14, 2014

            Yes, I have. Na-na-nana-nah!

            What a dishonest infant you are. You do not impress me, or anyone else, with your LIES.

            Which, of course, your above blurb is an example of . . . LIE! 🙂

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          234. James Bowen July 15, 2014

            I haven’t seen any.

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          235. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            Which is exactly what every liar and criminal since the dawn of time has said. . . .

            Therefore, irrelevant. Just like I told you a thousand posts ago.

            I have let you “off the hook” several times, but you keep jumping into the boat to get caught again. YOU NEED that precious last word. I don’t, but I have been here to demonstrate to you what the real cost of trying to obtain that goal will be.

            I have been honest with you from the start. All you have done is lie. In your mind, like almost all wackjob radicals, religious nuts, etc., you think you have a right to say anything, because you alone have the right to “win.”

            I don’t give a shit about winning. Just YOU losing!

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          236. Russell Byrd July 15, 2014

            After your behavior and performance, that disclaimer is of as much value as spitting in a fire storm.

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          237. Russell Byrd July 11, 2014

            Ever notice that I give a reasoned discussion, and for several hundred posts, actually gave “evidence.” While your entire rationale is to disagree with everything the other party says, demand evidence that has already been provided, ignore knowledge completely, and then demand that the other party agree with your idiotic mantra.

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          238. James Bowen July 12, 2014

            You haven’t provided evidence, just nonsensical rants.

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          239. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Tell me Bozo. are you spoofing the real James Bowen? You are far too stupid to be an academic. Even a lying, weird one.

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          240. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            You ask a question, I ANSWER it.
            I discredit, and debunk your nonsense.

            I ask a question, you IGNORE it.
            Refuse rational discussion or evidence.
            Then you just ask the question again.

            That is why I call you what I want, and I give whatever evidence that I what, or none, if that pleases me.

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          241. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            I answer questions that are relevant to the subject and not personal questions. You have answered very few of my questions and provided no backup to your viewpoints, and that is why I ask questions over and over again.

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          242. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            I guess, you will just have to learn the hard way. This will go on for years.

            Lie all you want. I will never agree.
            You will never get me to agree with a closet queen asshole like you.

            How do you like this nonsensical rant?

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          243. Russell Byrd July 11, 2014

            You are not about being right. You are about bullying and having someone crawl at your feet.

            My, my, a sorry childhood you must have had. Your step-daddy have you back in the woods with your pants down much? And that wasn’t a switch in his had either.

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          244. Russell Byrd July 9, 2014

            When you make a good faith effort to post according to the terms of service, and not be an obnoxious liar, and a whiner about my insults, when your nonstop lies are much, much worse, then I will start backing-up with evidence again. As you do not recognize anything as evidence, then there is not point.

            Doubly so, because I not only do not agree with ANY of your lies, but I will never do anything you demand unless it is my pleasure to do so.

            In other words moron, if it occurs to ME to do something, then I will do it, regardless if you demand or not. On the strict basis of what you want, you will receive nothing. 🙂

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          245. James Bowen July 10, 2014

            Again? You have not done it at all. You have no evidence that I am a liar.

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          246. Russell Byrd July 10, 2014

            The only thing holding back proof is your denial, and coming from a liar that ain’t worth squat.

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          247. James Bowen July 11, 2014

            How convenient for you. Show it and I will read it.

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          248. Russell Byrd July 11, 2014

            Your reading comprehension is at the seventh grade level. No surprise.

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          249. Russell Byrd July 11, 2014

            I might add that you can find the proof of your errors in abundance. Which is your responsibility, not mine. As far as me doing anything, your refusal to actually have a conversation relieved me of any responsibility.

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          250. James Bowen July 12, 2014

            No. You made the accusation, so you are charged with backing it up. Thus far, you have demonstrated an ability to do so.

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          251. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Which I have proven several hundred times. Why don’t we bring on a moderator to go back to the beginning and determine the facts of the matter?

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          252. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            I’m all for that.

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          253. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            An officer and a gentleman? Damn if you are not an embarrassment to your service.

            Chronic bullying liar with delusions of grandeur and an ego that will not fit in the Grand Canyon. Unfortunately, you will not gain any ground with me.

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          254. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Your continued failure to accept ANY argument except for your own lies, is in itself a lie. Simple logic. As I have said, I will only contribute exactly what I please. You had SEVERAL HUNDRED opportunities to be reasonable and actually discuss your theories, BUT all you wanted was to bully someone into agreeing with your hate, treason, and racism.

            Sorry, just go fuck yourself. By the way, since you were 24 hours late, I WIN again. I guess you needed to get alkyed up to have the courage to face me. So, I can add moral coward to your mix of faults. Which, for bullies, is entirely normal.

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          255. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            Demonstrate that I have lied. I have discussed extensively my theories (which aren’t really mine).

            By the way, believe it or not, I do have a life outside this comment thread. My life does not revolve around your posts.

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          256. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Why do you lie with every post?

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          257. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            Demonstrate that I am lying.

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          258. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            AND thank you very much for agreeing with everything I said, over every post I have ever made.

            Dumb fuck bozo said, “Thus far, you have demonstrated an ability to do so.”

            Thank you for finally seeing the truth and the light.

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          259. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            See my edit. I left out a word.

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          260. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Like I said, thanks for finally seeing the truth of what I said, and admitting that you have done nothing but lie.

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          261. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            See my edit. I left a word out.

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          262. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Since you refuse to read, tell the truth, or be anything but a bullying dick, I repeat, ” your refusal to actually have a conversation relieved me of any responsibility.”

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          263. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            I have read everything you have posted, and none of it has been anything of substance.

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          264. Russell Byrd July 11, 2014

            “The oppressors most powerful weapon is the mind of the oppressed.” – Stephen Biko

            As a bully, you probably don’t see how this connects to you so well.

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          265. Russell Byrd July 11, 2014

            Let me give you a little hint of one of the issues Mr. Biko’s statement touches on. Rumpbuggercon propaganda does not convince anyone with an IQ higher than an Imbecile’s. I mean that is clinically the truth. Yet, what it does do is destroy the resolve of the masses to do anything about the problems of the Nation. Like going to vote. That is what causes low voter turnout, and incidentally, is the mechanism that backfired, coupled with more Teabugger propaganda, and led to the defeat of Cantor.

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          266. James Bowen July 12, 2014

            But where is your evidence to back this statement up?

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          267. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Case was already made, and proven.

            Denial is meaningless. I can do exactly what you do. When I tell the truth, you deny and lie. When you lie, I will just tell the truth again. So it goes, and so it will go until you finally see the error of your ways.

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          268. James Bowen July 14, 2014

            No, it was not. Show it to me.

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          269. Russell Byrd July 10, 2014

            Why do you lie so much?

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          270. James Bowen July 11, 2014

            Rants do not count as evidence.

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          271. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            Russ says” Evidence does not count as rants.

            Dumbozo says: Evidence does not count as evidence. In fact, evidence does not exist unless I want it to, and then it does not have to be real, or true.

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          272. Russell Byrd July 6, 2014

            As always, you only recall that which makes you feel justified and powerful. Fuck the truth, RIGHT?

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          273. Russell Byrd July 13, 2014

            “The equation” is just a meaningless demonstration to prove that Jim Dumbozo has a right to bully everyone into submission.

            The planet Ignorance revolves around you. You are its “sun.”

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          274. Russell Byrd September 2, 2014

            You believe that human fate is controlled by an equation into which you have fed contrived data.
            The first premise is patently untrue, while the second is merely self-serving, and only indicative of a very inferior intellect. No doubt you can do math, but as far as any other logic or knowledge, you possess almost none. I will grant you have an amazing capacity for racism, and even more for the denial of tour racism.

            It is odd that you engage in the worst insults that have ever been known to mankind. That is the constant lies you state in every post. Yet, you are offended by coarse words that actually describe you and your behavior well.

            Everything is about your racism, which you keep claiming is not racism. Yet, it is all that you can
            talk about. Everyone, yes, every one of your talking points has been repeatedly destroyed, and yet you persist. Any idiot can continue to repeat meaningless nonsense. It proves no more after threethousand times, as it did the first time. So?

            You are arrogant, and incredibly ignorant. You answer no questions, because everything is personal. You have delusions of grandeur, a superiority complex, and are egotistical to an unbelievable degree. The problem with those things is, down deep no one like that really feels secure. Those are just ploys to disguise inadequacies that you are scared to death that others might see.

            You are morally, ethically, and intellectually dishonest. Yes, the first post you made to me you tried to make your case by trumping my argument with your academic credentials. That went a long way to prove everything I have had to say since. Any decent, humble, and intelligent man, yes, intelligent, knows that your argument is based on fact and reason, not on educational attainment. You demonstrate that attainment by making a logical, well-reasoned, and well-supported argument. Yet, all your arguments are based on a busted equation and bluster.

            You dismiss evidence out of hand. Apparently without even considering it. You steer conversations totally off-topic, and then you decide what may be said in your excursion into violating the “terms of service.”

            Your racism is astounding and nearly unlimited. As incredible as it may seem, only your denials of your racism could exceed that. All your devices are just ploys to misdirect from the fact that you are very simply a racist.

            As well, and it connects directly to your racism, you said right off that the immigrants were getting all the choice jobs, and little ol’ fat, swell headed, slob of a gob Dimbozo could not get a job. Imagine that.
            Superman was not able to get the do nothing, six figure job he thinks he has coming because he is a sociopathic bully and was born white.

            You claim you are not anti-labor, but mention the poorer occupations, or Heaven forbid, someone mentions unions, and you shout down with scorn on anyone wanting basic rights. Like all the sewage tea drinkers, you claim to be independent, but you only attackDemocrats.

            You do these things where you are certainly not
            welcome. Yet, though you upset many people, in the end, no one gives a damn about anything you say. You change no minds whatsoever. In fact, as all trolls have done here, you harden hearts and instill resolve to destroy your racist philosophy completely.

            What I fully understand about you is the most glaring enigma of all. You post to me like an infant
            throwing a very controlled, slow motion tantrum. You cannot “win” anything, as I am totally committed and totally immune to you nonsense. So, you are proving nothing except you are emotionally unstable, and you need to be watched. So, of course nothing is going to happen to you now, but I think that future you BSed about
            is purely a thing of the past.

            Am I going to complain to the moderators? Absolutely not. I have always been honest with you on every subject, in spite of your patent dishonesty in every response. So, I will just say that you will get this message or a similar one in your inbox until you fall out of the blogs, cancel your email, or the moderators jerk your privileges. Like I said, that was what I repeatedly told you I would do, but I keep forgiving you. No more. So, laugh away, but every bit of your racist malarkey you waste on me, just mean you will not be trashing someone else.

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          275. James Bowen September 2, 2014

            The mass of the Earth, the mass of the Earth’s non-bacterial biomass, and the growth rate of the human population since 1972 are not contrived data. The equation does not control our fate either. It is a simple demonstration of the unsustainability of our growth.

            Everything I have proposed would be greatly beneficial to American labor–that has been one of my main points.

            As for evidence, you have submitted very little.

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          276. Russell Byrd September 2, 2014

            As for evidence, you have submitted almost nothing. Just manufactured rot and racist opinion.

            Yourship sailed long ago, Dimbozo, and it was lost at sea. You cannot recoup the losses you have suffered, but by all means, keep trying.

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          277. James Bowen September 3, 2014

            I have submitted articles, references, website visitation ratings, and I have even worked through some formulae to demonstrate my points. Take away all the insults and personal attacks, I could probably count on one hand the evidence you have submitted. And of that, one was in total agreement with what I was saying, more than one had almost nothing to do with what we were talking about whatsoever, one was from the Daily Kos (a publication which seems to have serious issues with the USA), and one was from the profiteering SPLC.

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          278. Russell Byrd September 3, 2014

            At least the SPLC tells the truth without all the hate you fascist racists like to pour out.

            As far as your evidence, every bit is so obviously tainted as to cause censure and removal from the faculty of any real university in this country. You post nothing except racist double talk. Regardless, you are still racist.

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          279. James Bowen September 4, 2014

            The SPLC does not tell the truth. They are profiteers who recklessly smear those who don’t agree with them on everything (kind of like someone else I know).

            As for my evidence and references, Dr. Al Bartlett was a respected professor at the University of Colorado. The Center for Immigration Studies is made up of professionals, many of whom are retired civil servants. Internet ratings sites are certainly not tainted. Bottom line: nothing I have sent you is tainted.

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          280. Russell Byrd September 4, 2014

            Sorry that you are a lying asshole. Well, I’m not really sorry. As for the SPLC, they are proven to be telling the truth. That is a true indication of just how morally corrupt and evil a son of a bitch like you really is. Perfect, no, but they work positively for the good of those oppressed. You wish to oppress, which is evil.

            Why do you think the SPLC wins so many judgements? And don’t bother with your standard cock-sucking lying insults, as many of those cases are decided by Repub appointees.

            The proof is entirely on my side. You just hate, therefore, as you have an excess of evil and viciousness, you hate those that aim to do good. And you writhe in pain over those that successfully do good.

            As for your well-known racist hero, well, he is a proven racist, and his disciple is as well. Why don’t I tell all those minority students what you think of them. I have been reluctant to do so, but all I have to do is quote you. I do not need to make up anything.

            Laughing my ass off at a morally decrepit mental midget.

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          281. James Bowen September 5, 2014

            The SPLC did some good work and won a lot of judgements up to the year 2000 or so, but since then have done nothing. Even before then there were signs of problems. Charity watchdogs have given them very low ratings due to having a large amount of money put away, suggesting they are a for-profit corporation disguised as a non-profit civil rights group. They do not always tell the truth either. They sometimes smear people with ugly lies and falsehoods, such as John Tanton. Tanton finally replied by challenging them to a public debate, which they did not take him up on.

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          282. Russell Byrd September 5, 2014

            From a simple logic standpoint, your entire post is an obvious lie. They are still attacking racists like you, and they are still winning.

            So, your biased racist opinion is obviously of no value even to yourself.

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          283. James Bowen September 8, 2014

            None of what I have said is a lie here. The SPLC has come under scrutiny concerning their integrity. And to my knowledge they have never tried to take an immigration-reduction group to court. I think they are smart enough to know that they have no real case against such groups, so they just rely on smear tactics and character assassination instead.

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          284. Russell Byrd September 8, 2014

            You do little but lie, as you have done so here. The SPLC came under scrutiny? Maybe a little, but that was driven by your racist brethren.

            By the way, Drs. Shitstick and Condom have been under scrutiny constantly for forty years. Don’t need to character assassinate when you can just repeat their own words and expose their deeds.

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          285. James Bowen September 9, 2014

            These groups such as the SPLC that have attacked restrictionists have said nothing of the merits of their arguments, they have just made personal attacks.

            Charity ratings groups give the SPLC low marks.

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          286. Russell Byrd September 9, 2014

            Oh yes they have addressed the merits, but a racist fuckstick like you wants everything you way.

            And the SPLC is NOT a charity, you lying cocksucker.

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          287. James Bowen September 10, 2014

            They have not addressed the merits. They have attacked the character of those who push for immigration restriction as it relates to the ecological and economic well-being of America, but said nothing to refute their argument.

            The SPLC is ostensibly a non-profit, which is what charity ratings groups are interested in. They get low marks because their practices and their large bank accounts call into question how non-profit they really are.

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          288. Russell Byrd September 10, 2014

            Right, fuckstick. It is a non-profit that does good work for the disadvantaged. It is not a charity.

            Tantrum, and Dr. Shitstick, on the other hand, do/did only evil, and work for the defeat of all that is decent.

            By the way, the SPLC only gets low marks from other desperate racists like you. Therefore, to any reasonable, decent human being, their opinions are of no consequence.

            As well:

            You admitted that, “There is hard evidence that Tanton is a racist.”

            For the record, I copied that quote from a gem of a James Bozo post I accessed at 1900 hours, on 2014-09-09.

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          289. James Bowen September 11, 2014

            The point is that charity watchdogs concern themselves with all non-profits, and they give the SPLC low marks.

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          290. Russell Byrd September 11, 2014

            Except, that is provedly untrue. So, lying to me gets you what?

            Go lick the sweat out of Tanton’s crack some more. Maybe that way, he can impart some more of his wisdom to you.

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          291. Russell Byrd September 14, 2014

            Thanks fuckstick. I got to hand it to you, I could not have imagined someone as arrogant and ignorant as you. I would not though it possible that someone like you could exist.

            “The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) is an American nonprofit civil rights organization noted for its legal victories against white supremacist groups, its legal representation for victims of hate groups, its classification of militias and extremist organizations, and its educational programs that promote tolerance.”

            ABSOLUTELY PRICELESS. And you gave it freely, as a gift to little old me. Thanks, I will cherish it.

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          292. James Bowen September 15, 2014

            Read the section titled “Finances” in this article.

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          293. Russell Byrd September 15, 2014

            So? Reaching are we, Dimbozo?

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          294. James Bowen September 16, 2014

            I would say that, regarding the question of the SPLC being a corrupt non-profit, that section is important.

            Here is another American hero.

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          295. Russell Byrd September 16, 2014

            How many posts has your retarded ass fucked up. You have proved my points for me at least six times. Yet, you deny doing so. It does not matter, because we both know that I am correct.

            Like now . . . Oops, maybe you intended to answer this way! Your heroes do not exist, therefore you have nothing to post.

            As for your perverted racist Tantrum:

            You admitted that, “There is hard evidence that Tanton is a racist.”

            For the record, I copied that quote from a gem of a James Bozo post I accessed at 1900 hours, on 2014-09-09.

            I loved that, and I always will.

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          296. James Bowen September 17, 2014

            Hmm…don’t know what went wrong there. Anyway, I pasted a photo of Rep. Steve King there. I don’t know why it did not show up.

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          297. Russell Byrd September 17, 2014

            The queer filters must still be on in this blog. They usually take them off after awhile.

            Er, I just realized, those filters must not have been working. You are still here. So accept my sincere regrets at your total incompetance. ROTFL!

            You know Dimbozo, with your skillful (not) help, I have blown your sub(human) prattle out of the water so many times it is almost getting old.

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          298. Russell Byrd September 5, 2014

            So, you want to bring in another well recognized bigot that has made racist statements for years.

            How about a very generic statement by the freak Tanton, “whether the minorities who are going to inherit California (85% of the lower-grade school children are now ‘minorities’ — demography is destiny) can run an advanced society?”

            No one would ask that question unless he was going to support white supremacy. What lie do you say in return?

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          299. James Bowen September 8, 2014

            I do not agree with all of Tanton’s viewpoints, but this does not make him a racist. John Tanton is more like a nationalist who believes that U.S. culture should be totally Western and that the immigrants who we do take in should be completely assimilated into such a Western culture. Cultural supremacist, maybe, but there is no evidence that he harbors racial hatred. As far as his environmental work is concerned, you will not find one who is more devoted.

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          300. Russell Byrd September 8, 2014

            Tanton IS a racist. That has been known for a long time.

            I gave you more examples that just the SPLC. And, like I said, one gets carefully cultivated hits right up front lauding your racists, but if you dig in a couple of pages, you find the real truth of who you, and they, actually are.

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          301. James Bowen September 9, 2014

            There is hard evidence that Tanton is a racist. He has never suggested anyone is inferior because of their skin color. What is has suggested is that other cultures are incompatible with ours.

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          302. Russell Byrd September 9, 2014

            Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU.

            Freud was right. You finally told the truth.

            You admitted that, “There is hard evidence that Tanton is a racist.”

            That is C-O-R-R-E-C-T !!!!!!!!!

            And you reinforce YOUR truth by saying he, “suggested is that other cultures are incompatible with ours.” Which is as obvious a racist statement as anyone can make.

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          303. James Bowen September 10, 2014

            It was a typo, and as you can see I have corrected it. There is no hard evidence that Tanton is a racist. There is nothing racist about suggesting cultural incompatibility (although I don’t necessary agree with Tanton here). There is no evidence to suggest that Tanton believes that people should be rejected because of how they look and what color their skin is.

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          304. Russell Byrd September 10, 2014

            Can’t correct the truth.

            As well:

            You admitted that, “There is hard evidence that Tanton is a racist.”

            For the record, I copied that quote from a gem of a James Bozo post I accessed at 1900 hours, on 2014-09-09.

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          305. Russell Byrd September 10, 2014

            LADIES AND GENTLEMEN! This lying, abusing, harassing, bigoted, racist troll posted the truth of the matter. NOW, in the post above, he has surreptitiously changed the post to a position more favorable.

            I call this to your attention in order for the true record of events to be recorded for prosperity.

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          306. Russell Byrd September 10, 2014

            The original reads:

            “There is hard evidence that Tanton is a racist.”

            For the record, I copied that quote from a gem of a James Bozo post I accessed at 1900 hours, on 2014-09-09.

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          307. Russell Byrd September 5, 2014

            BUT, the truth is Tanton is an extremist that no one wants to let soapbox on their nickel.

            Where you fail and continue to show your racism, more and more plainly, is you conveniently accuse SPLC of not wanting to debate, but in return, the SPLC merely uses Tanton’s own racist rhetoric against him. Just like I do TO YOU. Tanton wanted the debate so he could preach to the faithful, but not allowing this does not disprove the evidence that is already being used against him. ALL THAT IS STILL TRUE. So, you proved nothing at all except you are in love with another racist. Thanks for fully supporting my argument.

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          308. James Bowen September 8, 2014

            John Tanton is a great American patriot and citizen. The SPLC were all for smearing him, but would not take him up on his challenge. That says they were not confident of the charges they were making against him.

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          309. Russell Byrd September 8, 2014

            Tanton is another of your great racists and no patriot at all. Just another dim-witted bigot that made up a spiel to fool even dumber bigots.

            Like I said, why would anyone debate. Your gang of degenerates will claim victory anyway, but what he truly believes will still be in the record of evidence against him. No, it does not mean the SPLC was not confindent, it just means they are smart enough to not to let this dickhead spew his hate on their nickel.

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          310. James Bowen September 9, 2014

            Tanton is one of the greatest patriots I know of.

            The SPLC would not debate because they have no counter-arguments to Tanton’s and the restrictionists’ arguments.

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          311. Russell Byrd September 9, 2014

            Tanton is another cocksucker just like you. He is as treasonous as you are and desires to push America to the brink.

            You lost the argument about the debate. Repeat that lie all you want, but everyone knows Tanton would not really have debated anyone, even if he had the nerve to show up. We both know all he wanted was a soap box at someone else’s expense.

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          312. James Bowen September 10, 2014

            No we don’t know that. What we do know is that Tanton challenged them and they did not take him up on his challenge.

            Tanton, like me, wants to stabilize America and pull it away from the brink. That is the total opposite of treason.

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          313. Russell Byrd September 10, 2014

            So, Tanton is NOT a cocksucker just like you? Well, you would know, wouldn’t you.

            What we know is is that Tanton IS a racist, and nothing of import would be debated by him while he would be preaching a racist sermon. Let Tanton pay for the debate out of his own pocket.

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          314. James Bowen September 15, 2014

            To answer the question put forward by this article, I would make it extremely difficult for them to find work here. If all employers are required to use E-Verify and this is backed up by SSN-No Matching, they would not be able to make it here and would leave.

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          315. Russell Byrd September 15, 2014

            Thank you for finally agreeing with me after hundreds of posts. You do see the light every now and then.

            Of course, I realize something that you are too stupid to see. After a period of time, you always seem to want to claim the ideas of others as your own.

            Again, you are academically, intellectually, and personally dishonest. Where I come from, you are called a LIAR.

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          316. Russell Byrd April 19, 2014

            Yes, I have been dealing with this blowhard idiot, Bozo Bobo. I answer his flurry of nonsense, and we are done. Then when it feels it is convenient, it will stir the pot again. Of course, it is getting nowhere. All it is doing is wasting its time and proving it is mad, foolish, and stupid. I have been merciful, but I think a little round the clock sniping, AT MY PLEASURE, might just send this emotionally disturbed, mental midget over the edge.

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          317. Russell Byrd June 8, 2014

            Repeated for your NON-reading pleasure:

            Again,

            What was your purpose coming to this blog? Even that suck ass friend of yours angelstink claims this is just a MINOR LIBERAL BLOG. You willfully came to a site where the regular posters hate, literally hate, racists like you. Why would you come here to post unless you wereare just a dick head?

            What are you trying to accomplish? I already know. Yet I wonder if you do, or are you just an unstable bat shit crazy loonie that is slaying some great dragon in thatcesspool you have for a mind? You don’t need to be around anything NUKE-U-LAR. . . .

            By the way, these are not personal questions except to the extent that you CANNOT answer them. I mean, are you just an asshole, or are you just nuts?

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          318. James Bowen June 8, 2014

            I have already answered this question, and I will give a summarized version of my previous answer. There are some good commentaries on this site that I agree with. That’s why I come here.

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          319. Russell Byrd July 6, 2014

            Another proven lie. You come to spew racism. You do not even seem to know what the topics are. At best, you come to get wound up for another rant.

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          320. Russell Byrd July 22, 2014

            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/07/22/1315735/-Idaho-Casino-dumps-Ted-Nugent?detail=email

            Normal decent people despise liars, bullies, and racists. Of course, you don’t understand that do you.

            By the way Dimbozo, I do have a excess of compassion for others. But a dumb dickhead, egotistical bully does not warrant any compassion.

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          321. Russell Byrd September 2, 2014

            I think the problem has been that you are the blowhard. You came to where you ideas are not welcome. Of course, you have a right to express your opinion, but after doing so you will not leave until everyone either complies or gives up the conversation. That shows the arrogant, ignorant evil that you really are. Just like you hero angelstench. You two were a matched pair.

            I hate to say it, angelfilth might actually be smarter.

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          322. elw March 14, 2014

            Funny that you should feel that way – you seem as free as I am to write on this blog. Perhaps you are confusing disagreement with being censored or the simple fact that others have the right not to listen to what you have to say.

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          323. angelsinca March 15, 2014

            Not confused. Just amused that antagonism would be called disagreement, and that being discouraged to speak isn’t considered censorship. Apologies for interrupting the GOP blame-fest.

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          324. elw March 15, 2014

            Actually being discourage not to speak is far different then censorship. When you are censored you are allowed no voice and you have a very loud voice on this blog. That people choose to ignore you is their choice and BTW their right. I am sure you do not understand the difference between antagonism and disagreement.

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          325. angelsinca March 16, 2014

            Popularity isn’t a concern. Though it’s common practice for the left to comfort itself by disregarding the concerns of the right. The irony echoes every time liberals discuss conservatives. Go away, shut up, you are to be ignored; this seems more like antagonism than disagreement.

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          326. elw March 16, 2014

            What you describe is not censorship. Not any where near it. Granted people are not being polite to you, but I have read your entry – you are not so nice yourself. If you cannot take it, you should not dish it out. Blogs are not the place for people who are too sensitive.

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          327. angelsinca March 16, 2014

            OK, you are probably right. Free speech deterrence is probably a better term here than censorship. The message is still the same and not changed by a nomenclature debate; there are better ways to deal with disagreement than insult and blame.

            Fault me for naively expecting a MOSTY Liberal blog would promote better understanding and compassion through the free exchange of opinion and ideas.

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          328. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            You are an ass of epic proportions. You come to this MINOR, as you put it, liberal blog to antagonize everyone and break up conversations. Then you cannot figure out why someone like me will ride your stupid ass into the ground.

            All you do is tell lies, in a blog that values truth. Go figure. Why don’t you hang out in Breitfart. Of course, you are so bad, you are not even welcome there.

            So go on another motor mouth series of rants. It has gotten you squat in the past, and bet your bottom stolen dollar that will be the outcome now.

            Why don’t you leave these people alone. You are trying to destroy this blog and free speech by the use of inflammatory lies.

            The evidence that no one is denying your free speech, is in the incredible body of lies you have told here. It is irrefutable.

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          329. angelsinca March 17, 2014

            No Russell, YOUR focus on attacking others is ruining this blog.

            Your untruthful accusations are soiling these pages.

            Your exhibition of rage and hate has created a hostile culture.

            Your campaign to exorcise the site of supposed evil has devalued the content.

            Your threatening nature has transformed worthwhile discussion into a sideshow of verbal abuse.

            Your repeated vulgarities have spiraled the content into the gutter.

            Your pursuit of personal vendetta has repeatedly chased away contributors.

            When was the last time you read the TOS for this site? You may want to pay close attention to Art 8 Sec (e): (You agree that you will not) “Stalk” or otherwise harass another.

            When you decide to step away from this place, it should improve considerably within a month. The Memo might even mature into a quotable site.

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          330. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            No Angelstink, YOUR focus on attacking others is ruining this blog.

            Your untruthful accusations are soiling these pages.

            Your exhibition of rage and hate has created a hostile culture.

            Your campaign to exorcise the site of supposed evil has devalued the content.

            Your threatening nature has transformed worthwhile discussion into a sideshow of verbal abuse.

            Your repeated vulgarities have spiraled the content into the gutter.

            Your pursuit of personal vendetta has repeatedly chased away contributors.

            When was the last time you read the TOS for this site? You may want to pay close attention to Art 8 Sec (e): (You agree that you will not) “Stalk” or otherwise harass another.

            When
            you decide to step away from this place, it should improve considerably
            within a month. The Memo might even mature into a quotable site.

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          331. angelsinca March 17, 2014

            Plagiarism. You should use quotes when you steal someone’s writings, Russell.

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          332. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            In fact, you stole every one of those lines from me. You constantly steal the intellectual property of others.

            In any case, it’s public domain, dumbass. The lines have been used before, BY ME!
            How about that deal, Angelchickenshit?

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          333. angelsinca March 17, 2014

            Not a fact but another intentional lie. Flagged

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          334. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            It’s a fact, flag away. Maybe, if you can actually get a moderator here, they can figure out what you have been doing for years.

            Oh, and flagged, of course!

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          335. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            I could add, you are one of the reasons Memo is not getting the attention it deserves. Too many low quality posts. Mostly from trolls like you. It is widely documented. I told you so before, Memo will have to take the risk and start ejecting trolls like you, or they will go the way of the Dodo.

            So, I will make you a deal. WE BOTH STOP POSTING. RIGHT NOW! You stay away from the Liberal groups and I will not harass you in any way. Guaranteed.

            Of course, as we both know that you are the problem and that you cannot quit, and because of your mental derangement, you will refuse with some lame BS about your rights. As I said, no one except a couple of trolls are complaining about me. By the way, I am very familiar with the “tos.” I am the one that keeps quoting it too you.
            You have to steal your ideas from me. You cannot even think for yourself. Faux and Rushie do that for you.

            So, why not agree?

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          336. angelsinca March 17, 2014

            Try reading the TOS instead of abusing them. The only thing i will ever agree to with you is to call you out on your agressions and attacks on me and others. You can’t be trusted Byrd. At this point, with your multiple threats to me and repeated bad behavior toward others, I prefer to just avoid you. I don’t need your concurrence to do that. But, I can flag every inappropriate comment you decide to post that I come across. If you continue your harassment campaign to chase me or anyone else off ANY site, I will flag ALL of your comments. There are no conditions or restrictions. Enjoy.

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          337. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            Once again, oh idiot. I only attack you because of your constant bullying and trolling in this group AND in MJ, on occasion. If you want relief, then go away.

            In fact, until recently, I had not posted at all for a couple of months. You had to drop one of your verbal turds in my inbox, so you only have yourself to blame for my resurrection. If peace is what you want, LEAVE. It is not me trolling groups that I neither belong in, nor am welcome in.

            Your comment about me abusing you and your ilk, equates with a gang of serial rapists that are mad at the police because they got caught. You are very much the criminal. You are a harasser, bully, liar, and troll. Cease and this game will end.

            Once again, all anyone has to do is read our posts, but especially, check our posting history. You troll constantly, while I only troll garbage like you. If I upset you, remember with your criminal behavior, you do not deserve civility.

            Like the shit you posted to elw. You are pathetic. Don’t you realize that after all your bluster and threats, everyone can still read the history of your posts. And a sad history it is.

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          338. angelsinca March 17, 2014

            Flagging for TOS violation Section 8e

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          339. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            What about that sweetheart deal I offered you? Hmm? I notice you will not even acknowledge my request.

            Anyway, flagged for years of violating TOS sections 8b (breathtakingly), 8e, and 8n. . . As you have said, you are only here to “educate” and destroy the blogs. That statement equates with destroying Memo, by the way. Bullying, lies, and constant disruption is not education.

            You have left a trail going back years. All I have ever done is give it back to you. Two wrongs may not make a right, but it does slow you down and ruins your fun.

            All I have really asked you to do, is post your ignorant, racist, homophobic, misogynistic, hateful, and breathtakingly untrue malarkey, AND then leave people alone. Instead, you go into motor mouth mode.

            By the way, I logged the posts where you admitted your true intentions in this blog. That should be enough to get your account closed, permanently. So, go ahead and flag to your hearts content.

            If anyone says we should ignore you, then I will say the same goes for you. Leave us alone here, or post civilly.

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          340. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            There is no violation in the TOS for telling the truth. Sorry. . .

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          341. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            But, you are not avoiding me, are you? You cannot tell the truth even once.

            In my view the most disgusting creature on Earth is one that lies, because they are capable of any misdeed imaginable, at any time. ALL you do is lie. So can you not see why I am so harsh with you.

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          342. angelsinca March 17, 2014

            Another Flag

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          343. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            Flag away creep. If you think that is not true, you are more deranged than I thought. I know you read what I have been posting to you for several years, because eventually, you always get around to stealing it.

            That right-wing ploy of being abused because you are an evil bastard, does not work you me.

            I will flag you too. Do you really want a moderator to come down and read your abuse of the “TOS.” So, flag away thief!

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          344. Sand_Cat March 18, 2014

            I’m starting to look downright friendly and welcoming. I’m sure we’d all be welcomed warmly on your favorite right-wing blog.
            Sorry, but those of us who’ve watched one GOP administration after another violate the law, lie, attempt to undermine the opposition’s ability to vote or speak or demonstrate publicly, and pretty much control the dialog and get most of what they want passed or repealed and appoint “administrators” and judges who will ignore the rest for most of the last 30 years or so find it just a touch annoying listening to all the hysterical concern for endangered “liberties” by the same semi-totalitarians whenever a Democrat – even one as mild and conservative as Carter, Clinton, and – yes – even Obama – is elected. You’ve had your way in most particulars for most of that time, yet your party is the one that is enraged and constantly complaining and hand-wringing about the end of world, even when they’re in power.
            Then you and your friends come here and subject us to your infantile and largely fact-free whining and accuse us of “censorship” or “free-speech deterrence” when we don’t like it.
            YOUR party is the one always pushing some censorship initiative or another. We may not like what you say, but we don’t support LAWS restricting you, and a lot of us didn’t support banning of some of the trolls who used to frequent this site.
            YOUR party is the one trying to prevent the opposition from voting through mis-use of the law.
            Almost everything of which you and friends accuse us applies much more to you or others who support your cause.
            Again, what SPECIFIC liberties of yours are endangered, and what SPECIFIC things has this administration done to endanger them?

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          345. angelsinca March 19, 2014

            “Again, what SPECIFIC liberties of yours are endangered, and what SPECIFIC things has this administration done to endanger them?”

            Ask Snowden. And thank you for not constantly whining about republicans. And for not allowing the debt to continue to grow. And for promoting complete harmony among the races, the genders, the classes and the generations. Thanks for the destabilization throughout the middle east, the centrifuges in Iran, the betrayal of Israel, and the enabling of Putin. Most of all, thanks for the food stamps, the long term unemployed and renewing the fears of domestic political retribution.

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          346. elw March 16, 2014

            The only thing I am faulting you for is the fact that you are blaming others for the very same things you do to people on this blog. Just one more point – no one have stopped you from sharing your ideas, they have just chosen not exchange theirs with yours – which is their Right. We all have the right to our own ideas and thoughts and with whom we want to share or discuss them with.

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          347. angelsinca March 16, 2014

            Thanks for the advice, elw. I did revisit my posts where I replied to you. In every instance, you claim to know what I think but decline to listen to what I say. You are certain I have some inflated sense of self worth. That’s OK to say, but is an insulting opinion that isn’t very accurate.

            It isn’t my responsibility to keep you interested or engaged when the choice to disregard is entirely yours. If you expect people to understand you, it’ll help to not think for them. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

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          348. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            I read everything carefully. I want to detect your latest lies. Of course, that is easy to do, but I wouldn’t want you to accidentally come up with one I do not catch.

            Slow learner, angelstink. My mission statement has been made at some point in every exchange we have made. My only responsibility is to tie you up and waste as much of your time as possible. As you are a useless coward, it is unlikely that I will ever be able to meet up with you for a man to angelgirlie talk. So, I settle for what I can do.

            One of us needs to have a mind. So I guess I have to think for both of us. Glad to be of service.

            By the way, what about that deal.

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          349. angelsinca March 17, 2014

            Flagged

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          350. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            Oh, definitely. I have flagged it as well. I only abuse you because of your abuse of everyone in this group.

            Haven’t you ever noticed that with the exception an occasional right-wing troll (i.e. very unwelcome person), no one ever seems to come to your support? Hmm?

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          351. elw March 17, 2014

            I did not start this conversation you did. I never asked you to understand me or keep me engaged – it was you who was complaining about being censored or “free speech deterrence.” I will not bother to reply again. Good luck to you.

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          352. angelsinca March 18, 2014

            Actually, I replied in kind to your comment about being a ‘White’ person with a minority family. Your response was a casual barb about how you supposed I wasn’t the center of the universe. Which, of course I am not. Thanks for the celestial offering anyway. Ciao!

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          353. Sand_Cat March 20, 2014

            Why would you think that? You obviously hate us.
            You do play the victim pretty well, though, for someone who supports some of the most hateful and plain mean policies around.

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          354. angelsinca March 20, 2014

            Hate? No. Still amused.

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          355. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Further, I am going to suggest to Memo, a very simple way to get rid of you. As people rarely vote a reasonable post down, all they have to do is set a limit for negatives, and then you are automatically barred. Or maybe, a negative to post ratio could be used.

            You would have all the free speech you want, If you remain civil. If you misbehave, again and again, the majority has the power to take action to protest their free speech from a harasser and disruptor.

            I realize you would be gone in several days, but that would be the price to pay for our freedom.

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          356. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            When you continue to butt into conversation, particularly when you tell outrageous lies, you meet all requirements to be proven a stalker, bully, and harasser. For my part, I only “harass” you, because of your continued ill treatment of our fellow posters. You behave, you would not know I was here. . . .
            BUT, you won’t. You insist that you have rights that you will not let the rest of the posters enjoy.

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          357. Russell Byrd March 15, 2014

            You are the one that called this a MINOR blog. You are the one that suggested this blog was not worth posting in. Yet, here you are.

            So, do you know the cure for antagonism in this MINOR (and Liberal) blog. Leave. Everyone knows in advance that any conversation with you will be of the lowest possible quality. Like the Florida special election where you told three easily debunked falsehoods in a row.

            When you post, we KNOW it is all lies. We do not even have to look for evidence because what you post is well-known not to be true.

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          358. Sand_Cat March 18, 2014

            Again, the GOP of course never, never, ever, ever engages in the slightest bit of antagonism. Getting irritated at the non-stop malice, willful ignorance, and dishonesty of the GOP is clearly an outrage that you just can’t endure, though – come to think of it – you seem to like it here.

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          359. angelsinca March 18, 2014

            I believe most people are able to endure a few GOP antics a lot better than the left’s chaotic transformation of everything it doesn’t like. Which is pretty much everything.

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          360. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            A few? The GOP is an antic. As far as the “left,” there is nothing chaotic about curbing your disgusting behaviour. You just don’t like it, which is irrelevant for as long as you are destroying the freedom of others you look down upon.

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          361. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Try to stay on topic for an instant. What does the left like, really? I know it’s hard, but can you do this without blame or comparison?

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          362. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            I am on topic. I am on the topics that you started. Anything that is off-topic is of your devising.

            What do we like?

            Freedom for all
            Fair play for all
            Compassion
            Justice
            Opportunity for all
            Jobs
            Fair pay
            Truth

            In other words, everything you despise.

            I know why you lie so much and why you keep asking answered questions over and over. YOU DON’T HAVE ANYTHING TRUTHFUL TO SAY.

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          363. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            “In other words, everything you despise”

            There is no evidence these things are despised by me or nearly all conservatives. None, except for what you imagine to be true. So, do you believe conservatives and republicans don’t deserve to share these Likes?

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          364. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Really, are you going to be materially better off if the Koch’s make another 100 billion, while destroying the climate, the water, the air, and the Democracy that our Founders gave us? I know your answer, but it is extremely stupid and lame. That is why I call you a racist. You see nothing wrong with bashing the poor and minorities, while expounding the “white” power base you think should be controlling the country.

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          365. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Most people would be appalled, but what this country really needs is for the Repubs to win EVERYTHING just once. In four years, what little is left of your party, will be stood against a wall and shot. The country will be nearly destroyed, but I think we will learn a lesson that will last a generation.

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          366. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            By the way, what will happen if you get your way and the Teapubs get complete control. Huge spending on the military, no jobs, huge disaffected and potentially starving population. AND, you should think about this, what will happen when Paul Ryan and company privatizes your pension? Do you think Wall Street can absorb all the money that is in Social Security, without dropping dividends to zero? Regardless of what you think, money does not grow on trees. Then there are there are the brokerage fees you will still be paying. .And what happens when, Pubs finally get rid of all Wall Street regulations and we have another, and very inevitable crash. The “market adjustment” will likely leave you without any livelihood. Of course, all your money will wind up in the pocket of our .01%, WHERE IT BELONGS. Sorry, I realize you do not have
            much of a sense of humor.

            I realize you can rationalize a denial because you do not do any thinking of your own, but face it, what will you do?

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          367. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            From a rhetorical standpoint, you proved my argument and destroyed your own. You made silly false claims, which I rebutted. Now you claim that what I said is roughly the same as what you believe. I realize that you are not very smart nor original, but you are reactionary and disagreeable, so you will rather spin than make peace with it. Yet, you only succeed in making an ass of yourself.

            You have no sense of shame. If it were me acting as you do, I would be hiding somewhere.

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          368. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Everything you propose is based on giving the shaft to someone that is disadvantaged in some way. Like your posts here, you do not have the balls to confront the real abusers. You just bully the weak from the safety of Mom’s basement.

            Go ahead and insult your beloved mother. Everyone know that the only one being insulted is a useless waste of skin like you.

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          369. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            You are the definition of a Fascist.

            No evidence? Everything out of your mouth is an abusive disagreement with the decent logical thoughts of another poster. Even myself, regardless of how abusive you claim I am, I try in almost every post to address your claims or answer your questions. You almost NEVER reciprocate.

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          370. Russell Byrd March 20, 2014

            angelstink refers to this as a “minor liberal blog.” My various replys ask “it” what it is doing in such a degrading place. Of course, I did not hear a coherent answer.

            I also countered its “sick man” arguments with an offer to stop posting here if it would agree to do the same. I got no answer for a long time, but after many posts, angelstink finally declined in its usual self-righteous, you’ve hurt my feelings manner.

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          371. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            This place isn’t degrading. Your treatment of the participants is. Your missed my prompt rejection of your silly demand because you were busy spamming the board with untruthful blather.

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          372. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Thanks, I am in touch with Memo. I would read this series of posts VERY carefully. As your post contains seven verifiable lies, it meets all the criteria of being a harassing post. Therefore, a violation of the TOS. Big time. I am flagging your post so I may bring it to their attention easier.

            1. I said nothing about this place being degrading. I said YOU are degrading the blog with your constant TOS violations.

            2. In other words, my mistreatment of a couple of breathtakingly abusive trolls is causing the blog problems? It is not, but even if it were, when you cease your harassment of the regular posters with a rapid fire bombardment of lies and nonsense, then I will adopt my former status as a reader only.

            3. I read every post. I asked you a half dozen times before you gave a response. If you do not come here to read the articles, post on topic, and address the other posters based on their own words, then why are you here except as a violation of the TOS.

            4. The demand was not silly. It was not even a demand.

            5. The “demand” that was actually a request, was a very fair, and honorable offer, made to a dishonorable and criminal individual that is only here in violation of the TOS.

            6. I do not spam. I do not troll. YOU DO!

            7. I just about always tell the truth. As per above examples, you nearly always lie about everything. Spin, twist words, and harass in violation of the TOS.

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          373. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Contrived realities number #1 through #7.

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          374. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            TRUTH! Indisputable truth based on your own words alone. Are you that delusional.

            Just because a criminal coward like you can hide behind a computer screen at some remote location, does not indemnify you for the posts you have made. Just because we can not see your weakling butt, does not sanitize the evidence that you have left. . . .

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          375. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            It’s been predictably typical, as usual. G’night Russy. You’ll have to tuck yourself in.

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          376. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            You got that right. You start a conversation where you lie out your butt . . . as usual.

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          377. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Oh yes, I forgot, flagged for easy recovery.

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          378. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Thanks for not spamming the board. 🙂

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          379. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Oh my, an attempt at truth. What has happened? I guess this is a momentary lapse of UN-reason.

            Flagged.

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          380. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            6. I do not spam. I do not troll. YOU DO!

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          381. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Thanks for not spamming the board. 🙂

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          382. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            I don’t, that is true. Why don’t you adopt the same habit? Like this harassing waste of bandwidth for the argument YOU started.

            Flagged, of course.

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          383. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            You just sound like ‘neeners-neeeners’.

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          384. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Do you actually ever post on topic? Do you ever make an attempt to answer reasonable questions? Do you make any conscious attempt to tell the truth? Do you ever post any real content?

            Flagged, by the way.

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          385. Russell Byrd April 18, 2014

            You can’t even reply to anyone without an unnecessary, off-topic slur against someone that is neither involved in, nor the subject of a conversation.

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          386. Russell Byrd April 19, 2014

            You know what the result of my proposal will be, but you cannot stop abusing and trolling, can you? You have the bluster of the guilty for all in the world to see. You fool no one, unless it is yourself. Surely, no one can be that stupid.

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          387. Russell Byrd April 18, 2014

            I wish I could reciprocate the thanks.

            At least I am a Liberal in a “minor liberal blog.” That according to you. Yet, why are you here?

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          388. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            5. The “demand” that was actually a request, was a very fair, and honorable offer, made to a dishonorable and criminal individual that is only here in violation of the TOS.

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          389. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            .For someone that you claim is not worthy of mention, you sure give them a lot of attention

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          390. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            I guess you win on that one. I cannot respond to total nonsense. What are you blathering about?

            Flagged.

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          391. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            4. The demand was not silly. It was not even a demand.

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          392. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Silly things cause a laugh reflex. Maybe it was just a gag reflex.

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          393. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Yes, you make a maggot gag. No one here has one mote of respect for you. You came to lie.

            You admitted you came to “educate,” and shutdown conversation, and kill this blog. It is recorded.

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          394. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            You admitted you came to “educate,” and shutdown conversation, and kill this blog

            You will find no proof I ever said this. What I did say when I first met you about two years ago is that nobody wants to listen to what you have to say. Today more true than ever.

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          395. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            NO ONE IN THIS BLOG HAS EVER SAID THAT! Only a couple of trolls like you and “lana,” that are universally despised by ALL posters. “Today more true than ever.”

            Why don’t we take a poll?

            AND, I have the conversation logged. I have the day and time and topic in a file with your exact words.
            Ever hear of “cut and paste.”

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          396. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            3. I read every post. I asked you a half dozen times before you gave a response. If you do not come here to read the articles, post on topic, and address the other posters based on their own words, then why are you here except as a violation of the TOS.

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          397. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Sorry, don’t come here just to respond to Russell Byrd.

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          398. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Three out of the last four conversations, or confrontations, that we have had, were initialized by you. So, I guess you cannot help but lie.

            Really, why don’t you try telling the truth. You will have nothing to hide and might even get some respect. I feel good telling the truth. It is good for you if handled responsibly.

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          399. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Yes, you are an equal opportunity harasser, bully, liar, and general all-around creep.

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          400. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            The train will be back on the tracks as soon as you are gone. I am not the one they came to respond to, but you are certainly seen as the problem.

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          401. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            2. In other words, my mistreatment of a couple of breathtakingly abusive trolls is causing the blog problems? It is not, but even if it were, when you cease your harassment of the regular posters with a rapid fire bombardment of lies and nonsense, then I will adopt my former status as a reader only.

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          402. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Russell Byrd’s definition of Troll is (select one):
            a) conservative
            b) republican
            c) tea party
            d) not in agreement
            e) all the above

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          403. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Russell Byrd’s definition of Troll is (select one):
            a) liar
            b) harasser
            c) stalker
            d) bully
            e) all of the above

            Angel… = e.

            By the way, as those on your list comes here just to do the things that are on my list, then being a “conservative,” etc. IS TROLLING.

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          404. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            1. I said nothing about this place being degrading. I said YOU are degrading the blog with your constant TOS violations.

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          405. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Of course you didn’t. Here is what you said, :

            My various replys (sp) ask “it” what it is doing in such a degrading place

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          406. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            So I suppose you have the intelligence level of the ice cubes in my glass. I was using a little irony and sarcasm.

            Maybe, our problem with you is you really are that stupid. I guess you are not only in your mother’s basement, but till recently they kept you in a cage away from normal people.

            Obviously, you never related with normal people. Or with anyone for that matter.

            FLAGGED for recovery.

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          407. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            By the way, you failed miserably in debunking ONE point. The rest are confirmed as true that you are a bully, troll, harasser, and liar.

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          408. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            True, quoting Russell Byrd is a miserable fail.

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          409. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            When all you are trying to prove are lies, then of course you will always fail.

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          410. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            I was engaging in a little irony and sarcasm paraphrasing you on your attitudes toward Memo in general. Your the one that said, and it is proven, that this is just a “minor liberal” blog.

            And that is when I asked you why you were here. We both know, and you have said directly, that you are just here to harass.

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          411. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            “I was engaging in a little irony and sarcasm paraphrasing

            You mean you were lying. Got it.

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          412. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            I would never dream of cutting in on your monopoly on lies.

            Seriously, what did I lie about? You even tell lies about the lies you tell. I guess that is the penalty for not caring what lies you told before.

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          413. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            All these little “cute” blurbs, or is it blobs, and you have not demonstrated even one error on my part. Just harassment for no other reason than to harass. And definitely flagged.

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          414. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Trying to reply with simple single lines of thought. Apparently this is too complex for you to follow..

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          415. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Using incoherent and untruthful “simple single lines of thought” is a complete fail.

            And we both know that I understand completely. Even a five year old knows that your malarkey is complete crap.

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          416. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Thanks, I am in touch with Memo. I would read this series of posts VERY carefully, if I were you. It will be a first, but you should make the effort. As your post contains seven verifiable lies, it meets all the criteria of being a harassing post. Therefore, a violation of the TOS. Big time. I am flagging your post so I may bring it to their
            attention easier.

            And a reminder, you are the one that declares Memo to be a MINOR blog. You also admit that Memo is a Liberal blog. Therefore, beyond casual posting, you are trolling in violation of the TOS.

            I am not the one unwelcome here. I find it hard to believe you are so delusional that you cannot see that. I rather think you are just a malicious stalker that may actually be in violation of criminal code.

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          417. angelsinca March 21, 2014

            Oh boy. look at the wasted bandwidth. Where are the adults when you need them?

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          418. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            Yes, you do need adult supervision. And guess what, they are either here watching, or will soon be.

            Flagged for recovery.

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          419. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            You are right, though you are the one that indicated otherwise. This place is NOT degrading, BUT you are! That was my point.

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          420. Sand_Cat March 18, 2014

            Sure, refusing to allow you clowns to pass your religious and political dogma and the associated restrictions on, discrimination against, or just plain abuse of all sorts of groups of people is limiting your precious liberty. Nice projection. What SPECIFIC liberties and freedoms are you being denied?

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          421. angelsinca March 18, 2014

            Take it up with the clowns that pass the legislation that seems to be threatening your sensibilities, not your neighbors. Just because I like traditional family values doesn’t mean I dislike or need to change those values that aren’t like mine. Can you say the same?

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          422. angelsinca March 12, 2014

            Russell Byrd wrote, “Angel cannot fathom that having a minority [not for long] in the family…”

            Looks like another death threat, Russell. This makes the second one this year and it’s only March. Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Why are you so happy to be so hateful? You are intelligent and shouldn’t have to be reminded that this is just a minor blog dominated by the same small clique of conservative-hating liberals that really don’t care about your vein-bulging performances. You embarrass them. At least the ones that have a conscience.

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          423. Russell Byrd March 13, 2014

            Looks like more manufactured nonsense from a fertile idiotic mind. . . .

            Dear idiot, plainly I was referring to the demographics. The minorities that you hate so badly will soon become the majorities. Even now, if everyone eligible were to vote, you would lose every election, with exception of a few “exclusive” gated communities.

            ALSO, I always do something you never really do. Answer questions. So, why am I so hateful? Ask anyone here about the tone of YOUR posts and then maybe you will understand that it is only a little quid pro quo. That question has been answered in great detail on a number of occasions.

            I am sure that the regular posters will be happy to hear this is just a MINOR blog. As well, if this blog is so minor, pray tell, why are you wasting so much of your valuable time here?

            You hate, therefore I hate you. As for conservative, you are about three steps to the right of your dear Fuehrer.

            As always, I know exactly what I am talking about.

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          424. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            I don’t see any evidence of intelligence on his part.

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          425. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            My feelings about you are much the same! You are a clone of angel, you arrogantly pronounce, but you never answer the opposition. When you are answered you ignore it, Then you continue to ask the same questions.

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          426. James Bowen March 16, 2014

            How can we sustain an ever growing population?

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          427. Russell Byrd March 16, 2014

            Ask . . . answered . . . ad nauseum. Just because Dr. Goebbels claimed that telling a lie long enough will make it believed, does not mean that the smartest and most decent people will fall for it.
            S o r r y, a g a i n !

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          428. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            Okay, yesterday you finally did answer my question, and you agreed with me–we can’t.

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          429. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            One thing I am Jimbo, that you are not at all, is HONEST. Every troll I have ever engaged with I have told them my entire purpose and plan. It is a source of great amusement to me, because none of you mental midget sociopaths can ever understand simple reasoning.

            I find no joy in ruining the days of the innocent. As I am common sense and justice driven, I only go after the guilty, the liars, the bastards, and the trolls. Looks like you lit up all those buttons. Please continue in your futile exercise.

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          430. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            You clearly do not understand physics, biology, economics, or history though. So much for simple reasoning.

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          431. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            Well, I do. However, believe what you will, but I really do understand the guity, the liars, the bastards, and the trolls. So I know you like the back of my hand.

            One bad thing about you, Jimbo, which tells much, is you are not even original. Between your lying, fixation on ideas based on hatred, and above all, a lack of a sense of humor, you are not really very interesting, at all. Such a disappointment. I guess one consolation is you are so easy to slap around, so I am not having to devote too much energy.

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          432. James Bowen March 18, 2014

            You apparently do not. You seem to think we can accomodate an ever-expanding population, an obvious physical impossibility.

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          433. Russell Byrd March 18, 2014

            As I said in another post, “Psychobabble Jimbo, and overused, incoherent psychobabble to boot. You
            got that crap from an online lecture, and adapted it as a cover story to
            hide your racism.”

            As well, I actually have answered you eight times, not seven as I had said earlier. I forgot I went back and actually tried to explain why I was debunking your nonsense.

            I will add, that an individual that is studying in a “hard science” field, does not answer his own questions. You will never learn anything that way. Another nail in the old “college man” coffin. . . .

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          434. James Bowen March 19, 2014

            You can insult me all you like. The fact is that you have not answered my question about how an ever-increasing population can be supported. You have also implied that you think that illegal aliens should have priority over citizens, which makes you a traitor in spirit, if not the letter of the law.

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          435. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            No Jimbo, I just repeated what I have been saying. A childishly
            egotistical bastard like you is always looking to foist his nonsensical
            views on someone else. No matter how evil or stupid, you MUST be right.

            How
            childish. If you had ever learned to read for content, put aside your
            infantile pre-conceptions, and stayed on the same topic, you would have
            known my views on the first post.

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          436. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            In that case, still waiting for an answer.

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          437. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            No Jimbo, I just repeated what I have been saying. A childish egotist like you is always looking to foist his nonsensical views on someone else. No matter how evil or stupid, you MUST be right.

            How childish. If you had ever learned to read for content, put aside your infantile pre-conceptions, and stayed on the same topic, you would have known my views on the first post.

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          438. James Bowen March 22, 2014

            Still waiting for an answer.

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          439. Russell Byrd March 22, 2014

            Sorry, that TWELFTH answer will not be coming.

            Otherwise, refer to my posts for today at 12:30 P.M. & 2:30 P.M.

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          440. James Bowen March 23, 2014

            Still waiting for an answer (a first one). Maybe they are in those posts you mention, and I will check them, but I am not holding my breath. After all, if you have found that energy is not conserved, I don’t think I would be your sole occupation.

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          441. Russell Byrd March 23, 2014

            If my eleven answers do not equal “a first one” for you, then I guess they will put you in the ground before you get one.

            The adult here has already said, that there is no purpose in belaboring a moot point.

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          442. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            Unfortunately, you came here to troll and foist your idiocy onto some unwilling “Liberal.” Sorry, but you got me instead. And, unlike angelstink and you, Jimbo, I do not troll around looking for trouble. That means I have plenty of time to devote to you.

            There is an old adage, Jimbo, that has this, “if you are bad mouthing me, you are leaving some other poor soul alone.” In order to deal with me AND carry out your mission, you will have to work three or four times as hard as me. So, there you are.

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          443. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            No Jimbo, I just repeated what I have been saying. A childishly egotistical bastard like you is always looking to foist his nonsensical views on someone else. No matter how evil or stupid, you MUST be right.

            How childish. If you had ever learned to read for content, put aside your infantile pre-conceptions, and stayed on the same topic, you would have
            known my views on the first post.

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          444. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            In that case, you still have yet to answer my question.

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          445. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            Your question has been answered seven times. As I said, the adult is taking charge. NO more answers to questions. Take it or lump it. You want me to agree with your racism. Won’t happen.

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          446. James Bowen March 17, 2014

            Explain to me how we are going to overcome conservation of energy, traitor.

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          447. Russell Byrd March 17, 2014

            Logic does apply, but human life is not an equation Jimbo. Keep on being a racist traitor. No skin off my rear.

            As I said, answered seven times. The adult is now fully in charge.

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          448. James Bowen March 18, 2014

            Still haven’t explained it to me. You want to replace Americans, so it is you who is the traitor.

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          449. Russell Byrd March 18, 2014

            Jimbo, you have been answered at least seven times, don’t like it, shove it.

            As well, you are CONFIRMED as a no education liar. Out of your own mouth and the evidence is right here (and logged by me).

            As I said, to your treasonous, racist, lying, a**, the adult is now in charge here. . . . :-)_

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          450. James Bowen March 19, 2014

            No you haven’t. You have not told me how we can accomodate an ever-expanding population (and thereby violate conservation of energy). You are the traitor–you want to surrender to foreign invaders who are displacing Americans.

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          451. Russell Byrd March 19, 2014

            YES, I HAVE! Na, na, nana, na.

            You know Jimbo, your argument is so defective that it is ridiculous. Life, i.e. people, are not equations. As well, you equation does not apply, and you do not seem to understand how it works anyway.

            You have glommed on to a much smarter man’s research, and have perverted it for racist means.
            So, in a sense, that will be nine times you have been answered.

            It is a shame you do not have the discipline to attend college. . . . Of course, as you already know all, without one shred of research, you do not need to. Teeheeheeeee!

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          452. James Bowen March 19, 2014

            You have not told me how we can violate energy conservation and have infinite population growth. You have not even tried. I’ll save you some time–It can’t be done.

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          453. Russell Byrd March 19, 2014

            Doesn’t need to be. Already told you. You are promoting a false argument, based on false ideas, supported by data that does not exist. You are proposing malarkey to disguise your true racist ideals.

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          454. James Bowen March 20, 2014

            In another post you all but stated that I am correct. Good enough for me.

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          455. Russell Byrd March 20, 2014

            I guess you spend your days chasing imaginary butterflies too. . . .

            If it’s good enough for you, then you admit that you have been totally wrong.

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          456. James Bowen March 21, 2014

            You said that you agreed with Dr. Bartlett. If that is true, than you agree with me that we must stop population growth, and therefore reduce net immigration to zero. If that is not true, tell me how we are going to support an ever-growing population.

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          457. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            That is not what I said Jimbo. For the ninth time, the question is not pertinent to the discussion. At least try to give it a frame of reference and tell me how many resources we actually have left, and when this catastrophe will take place.

            By the way, the human race has had more downs than up, but the human race has always faced this problem since the dawn of time. Yours is a Chicken Little question that is relatively meaningless to anyone not proposing disharmony and racism.

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          458. James Bowen March 22, 2014

            I can tell you that the Earth has a mass of some 6*10^24 kg, and that the power (energy/time) we receive from the Sun is equal to the intensity of solar radiation at the radius of Earth’s orbit divided by the surface of the Earth. Those are our absolute resource limits. The real biological limits are far lower, however. A population correction is nothing to just simply brush off. I for one would not want to face one, and something tells me you wouldn’t either. Such an event would likely involve nuclear war breaking out over the few remaining resources that would be left, not to mention widespread famine, pestilence, and anarchy. We must do whatever we can to prevent this from happening, so long as it is within ethical bounds. In the U.S., limiting immigration and sending illegals back to their home countries is certainly within such ethical bounds.

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          459. Russell Byrd March 22, 2014

            Psychobabble that has absolutely nothing to due with the reality of human life.

            Otherwise, refer to my posts for today at 13:0 P.M. & 2:30 P.M.

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          460. James Bowen March 23, 2014

            Since human life is dependent upon other living organisms to survive, and since all life on Earth is dependent upon the limited resources of the Earth and the limited energy from the Sun, this has everything to do with the reality of human life. Human life would not exist without these, and their finiteness places a strict limit on the quantity of human life.

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          461. Russell Byrd March 23, 2014

            More psychobabble. . . Have you ever thought it through Jimbo? If what you say is true, then we are doomed anyway. AND, Climate change is going to get us long before that. Or is it you just are calculating the years of oil we have left for your joyriding?

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          462. James Bowen March 23, 2014

            Climate change is but one symptom of overpopulation. Overpopulation is the more fundamental threat of the two. Maybe climate change will be the exact cause, but it is hard to say. Either way, we’re toast if we don’t dramatically alter course.

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          463. Russell Byrd March 23, 2014

            “Either way, we’re toast if we don’t dramatically alter course,” by beating up on those that already have the least. Face it Jimbo, you are the worst form of racist. Not only will you not admit it, but you have created a facade of denial that is fooling no one except yourself.

            You need to learn a little more about Global Warming, too!

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          464. James Bowen March 23, 2014

            I know plenty about global warming. It is driven fundamentally by too many people. Overpopulation is the more fundamental of the two problems. I am not beating up on anyone. We need to control our population, and in the U.S. and Canada that means strictly enforcing immigration laws.

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          465. Russell Byrd March 23, 2014

            That is incorrect as it is certainly too simplistic. If what you say is true, then the Third World should be causing even more of the problem than we are. However, this is a product of our chemical industries, but especially, our use of fossil fuels.

            Humans breathing has never been linked to Global warming. By the way, I AM a Geoscientist and well as a Historian. So, your BS will not fly with me. I think you picked the wrong guy to pull that Fizzicist nonsense on. As such, you have no credibility.

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          466. James Bowen March 23, 2014

            A geoscientist who has no concept of energy conservation and a historian who is oblivious to what happens to nations that tolerate foreign invasion–pardon me for being skeptical.

            A U.S. with only 150 million people would emit considerably fewer greenhouse gases than it does with our current population. Also, the third world does contribute significantly to global warming via deforestation and a significant amount of greenhouse gas emissions themselves (look at China and increasingly India). Bottom line, global warming is caused (or at least significantly contributed to) by human activities. That would be much less of a strain if there weren’t so many of us, and will keep getting worse if our numbers keep growing.

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          467. Russell Byrd March 23, 2014

            Your a name calling idiot, Jimbo. No education, no desire to improve. Just a bigoted, racist outlook on the world you thinks owes you an easy living.

            I told you you should no more about statistics than I do, IF you were that Fizzycist you claim to be. As you are not, my credentials and my knowledge will trump your inanity any day.

            What school did you [claim] to go to? I bet you would have done well at the Federal University of Central Kentucky, i.e. good ole F*CK U.

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          468. Russell Byrd March 23, 2014

            By the way Jimbo, you are skeptical because you hate the truth, and anything or anybody not out to give you a free ride. You sound just like one of those Teatards that says he is a Liverterian. They mostly have IQ’s about their shoe size. Yeah, they mostly have oversized feet because of their cave man genes, but it still isn’t enough.

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          469. Russell Byrd March 21, 2014

            As I have said several times, you only use Dr. Bartlett’s rather mixed bag of philosophy to disguise your “rampant racism.” Therefore, we will never be in agreement.

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          470. James Bowen March 22, 2014

            Your disagreement is with natural laws. You can deny physical reality all you want to–it won’t make any difference in the end when the U.S. and the human race is facing a Malthusian correction.

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          471. Russell Byrd March 22, 2014

            No, I understand them very well. What I object to is your peeling apples to make a racist lemonade. . . .

            Plainly so your tiny brain can comprehend: You are using those “natural laws” in a manner they were never intended to be used. In fact, your usage denigrates those laws to mere hypotheses.

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          472. James Bowen March 23, 2014

            Whatever I think of natural laws doesn’t mean anything, and they aren’t “intended” to be used for anything, as far as humans are concerned. They just are, and they point to a population correction if we continue on our current course.

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          473. Russell Byrd March 23, 2014

            Wow, are you a contortionist, Jimbo. That twist and spin had to hurt. Whooo!

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          474. James Bowen March 23, 2014

            No twist and spin there, just deduction.

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          475. Russell Byrd March 23, 2014

            Oh yeah, I read all your posts and you did spin breathtakingly. You denied the reasoning in your above post later on in this exchange.

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          476. James Bowen March 24, 2014

            I have not spun anything or denied the reasoning in this post anywhere. My position has been that we need to control population, otherwise it will be controlled for us (which I don’t think anyone truly wants if they realize what that means).

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          477. Russell Byrd March 24, 2014

            So, your solution is genocide. That is not a question, but a statement of fact. And a working definition of racism. And a negligent, malignant ignoring of your Nation’s safety and cohesiveness. Do I have to tell you what that is? It starts “TR. . . . . ”

            Then we will have a race war, which you will love to see. Of course, you just think you will love it. You will find that it is not that fun. All your mumbo-jumbo based equations are largely meaningless, when you are dealing with live human beings. Of course, you have already spun that around several different ways.

            The time to have done something has largely passed. We need to make peace and deal with what we have, the best we have. As I said before, and it is a fact, we throw away enough to feed most of the Third World. We certainly do if you add Europe, Japan, and Australasia. Your denials only prove your total lack of education.

            By the way, what Uni did you say you got your Master’s from. Teeheehee!

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          478. James Bowen March 24, 2014

            Deporting people to their home countries is not genocide, and it is only part of the solution we must attempt. This also is necessary to national cohesion–it is repelling an invasion after all. I do not know of too many instances where tolerating an invasion has been good for national cohesion.

            Maybe it is too late, but we must still try. Anyone or any people who give up have earned what is coming to them as far as I am concerned.

            Also, that is absolute nonsense that we throw away enough to feed most of the world. We could maybe feed a few hundred million on that, but no more.

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          479. Russell Byrd March 24, 2014

            JImbo, why don’t you get a job and finish that education of yours. I heard your “university” has a sixth grade certificate.

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          480. Russell Byrd March 24, 2014

            JImbo, it is absolute fact that you would do well to read about. Yeah, I know, you can’t. See Jimbo, see Jimbo whine, see Jimbo beating down a concrete wall with his head, oh my, see the rubble caused by Jimbo’s case hardened head.

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          481. James Bowen March 24, 2014

            No, it is complete nonsense. Even if we throw away half of what we eat, that means we could feed another 400 or so million, but not billions. Besides, we ultimately cannot sustain our own nation using completely renewable methods.

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          482. Russell Byrd March 24, 2014

            Jimbo, you head is full of complete nonsense. If I told you there was a bomb behind the door, you would kick it out of stupid spite. Booooooom!

            Why does truth have so much trouble getting through. I said the U.S. & Canada, Europe, Japan, & Australasia (which I doubt you even know what that is, of course you will Wiki and act the smart-a**.)

            Most of the Third World is probably on about a 1500 calorie a day diet. Much of the U.S. is on a 3000+ calorie a day diet. We probably consume or throw away 4-8 times as much food per capita as they do in say Ghana. Then add all the waste from our food processing. Then add all the meat we eat that takes enough food to feed 8-12 third world people. That is every single day for six months to two years before slaughter. And don’t claim the yield is anywhere near the input. Probably about 10% of food value inputted.

            Now, consider that with all the nations I mentioned, we can easily double the amount eaten, i.e. over eaten, and wasted. The math should easy for a Fizzicks whiz like you.

            And again, I notice that though I do respond to your lies, you totally fail to answer a simple question or two. Denial, proves absolutely nothing except that you are a stupid liar.

            WHAT school did your Master’s come from. You wanted me to tell you about mine. Etiquette stipulates that you go first! So what is it.

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          483. James Bowen March 25, 2014

            Multiple problems with your statement here. Many of these third world nations do not have adequate nutrition balance in their diets, even if they are consuming enough calories to keep them going for the day (and some of these nations have trouble doing just that). I’m sorry, it is not wasteful to eat a balanced diet that has a good amount of meat. That is important, and if other nations can’t do that, it shows just how overpopulated humans are. Using what we throw away, we could probably feed a few hundred million more. However, Americans and other first worlders should not be expected to give up nutrition in their diets. Besides, this ultimately does not address that fact that we have already exceeded the long-term carrying capacity of the U.S. and the world.

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          484. Russell Byrd March 25, 2014

            In India I believe life expectancy is about 78 years old. Compare to our rate, if you please. Over half the population eats no meat at all for the entire year. Which logically means they never eat meat.

            We are omnivorous, we can eat meat, but we do not actually need it. That is an American right-wack fable. Look at all the health problems we have from our high fat, high cholesterol diets. In India, which is by and large, a third world country, these problems are not unknown, but they are not very common. That is how they live to a similar age as we do.

            So, once again, your argument goes down the drain. Don’t bother saying I did not respond. I am copying this response, so I do not have to retrieve it later.

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          485. James Bowen March 26, 2014

            Most Indians are small people. Meat is necessary to build muscles and tissue. People need meat. Sure, they might be able to live without it, but with physical limitations.

            Our health problems don’t stem so much from too much meat as they do from overall poor nutrition (too much junk food, fast food, not enough exercise, etc.)

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