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Days Before Decisive Ruling, Obama Makes A Final Case For Health Care Reform

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Days Before Decisive Ruling, Obama Makes A Final Case For Health Care Reform

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It’s reform that President Obama has been pushing for, pitching and defending for over half a decade. It has survived one Supreme Court challenge, a calamitous website launch, and a national election during which it was the focal issue.

The moral argument

Days before the Supreme Court is expected to rule on a case that could determine the future of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), President Obama spoke at the Catholic Hospital Association Conference to make an impassioned moral case for his signature legislation.

The president’s remarks, and the accompanying webpage created by the White House, located the ACA in the context of a larger project of using government to improve people’s lives. And his speech employed the same kind of soaring, Bible-inflected language he used to great effect in his 2008 presidential campaign.

America, Obama said in prepared remarks, is “sustained by the idea that I am my brother’s keeper and I am my sister’s keeper. That we have an obligation to put ourselves in our neighbor’s shoes, and to see the common humanity in each other.”

It is not a legal argument, and it’s unlikely to sway the Supreme Court, which heard arguments on the case at issue in March. Nor will it influence Republicans in Congress or on the campaign trail, even those with much to lose, who are already speciously readjusting their talking points to shift the blame to Obama when and if their constituents’ subsidies collapse.

The legal argument

The plaintiffs in King v. Burwell allege that subsidies offered to low- and middle-income Americans buying insurance on federal exchanges are not permitted under the legislation as it was passed. The exact wording of the statute says subsidies are only available to those who purchase insurance on exchanges “established by the state.”

The nakedly political case hinges on those four words, which are widely acknowledged to have been a careless, sloppy mistake. Furthermore, the words make little sense in context with the rest of the legislation — since the federal exchanges only exist for people who live in states that did not set up their own exchanges.

If the Supreme Court delivers the ruling sought by plaintiffs, the decision could gut the federal subsidies, relied upon by as many as 9 million people, and instigate a widespread financial disaster.

Neither the White House nor GOP lawmakers have a good backup plan in place, should the Supreme Court rule to end the subsidies.

At the G7 Summit Monday, President Obama stood by his conviction that the Court would rule in the government’s favor, that the law worked, and that he was comfortable not having a plan B prepared.

President Obama noted in his speech Tuesday that the law’s success could be measured in “the number of newly insured families, the number of lives saved,” and that “none of the horrors” predicted by the ACA’s opponents or conservative pundits had come to pass.

You can view the full speech here.

Screenshot via WhiteHouse.gov

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Sam Reisman

Sam Reisman is the former managing editor at The National Memo, where he still writes the weekly "This Week In Crazy" column. His writing has appeared in Flavorpill, The Huffington Post, Columbia Daily Spectator, and Bwog. He was the publisher of the 2010 edition of Inside New York, an annual guidebook to the city for students and young professionals.

Since 2011, he has co-curated and hosted Peculiar Streams, a showcase for NYC-based writers, musicians, comedians, and filmmakers. He is a staff writer at Mediaite, and blogs at SamReisman.com.

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  1. Dominick Vila June 9, 2015

    The fact that we are still trying to justify the need for affordable healthcare, and making it available to those who cannot afford high insurance premiums, says more about who we are than any of the legal or fiscal claims made by the ACA detractors.

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    1. itsfun June 10, 2015

      Not sure how affordable it is or is going to be. The requested rate increases by the insurance companies are anywhere from 10% to 27%. We need health care, but there has got to be a better way. How about tax credits instead of subsidies? I think the whole system needs to be re-written with input from Doctors and Hospitals as well as the lawyer politicians that wrote the existing system. The stats we see from the WH never show how many people lost their doctors and insurance. The last stat I saw was something like 5 million people lost their doctors. They also never show how many Americans cannot afford the obamacare system and still have no insurance. I have suffered a lose of benefits in my Medicare. It is obvious the current Administration hates senior citizens. I saw a quote from one person in the Administration that 75 was long enough for anyone to live. Reminds me of the move Logans Run.

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      1. atc333 June 10, 2015

        Documentation please. What benefits did you lose in Medicare? The Americans which cannot afford Obamacare are usually those with incomes less than poverty levels, who do not qualify, and who could not afford medical insurance before Obamacare either. Those individuals are supposed to qualify for Medicaid, unless of course they are living in Red states which deliberately make applying for and receiving medicaid very difficult, such as Gov.. Bobby Wannabee’s State of Louisiana.

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        1. itsfun June 11, 2015

          Just ask any of your senior citizen friends to show you any statement they are receiving from Medicare. The statements state the decrease in Medicare benefits.

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          1. Carolyn1520 June 11, 2015

            Really?

            “Top 5 things to know about the health care law if you have Medicare:

            Your Medicare coverage is protected.

            Medicare isn’t part of the Health Insurance Marketplace established by the health care law, so you don’t have to replace your Medicare coverage with Marketplace coverage. No matter how you get Medicare, whether through Original Medicare or a Medicare Advantage Plan, you’ll still have the same benefits and security you have now.

            You don’t need to do anything with the Marketplace during Open Enrollment.

            You get more preventive services, for less. Medicare now covers certain preventive services, like mammograms or colonoscopies, without charging you for the Part B coinsurance or deductible. You also can get a free yearly “Wellness” visit.

            You can save money on brand-name drugs. If you’re in the donut hole, you’ll also get a 55% discount when buying Part D-covered brand-name prescription drugs. The discount is applied automatically at the counter of your pharmacy—you don’t have to do anything to get it. The donut hole will be closed completely by 2020.

            Your doctor gets more support. With new initiatives to support care coordination, your doctor may get additional resources to make sure that your treatments are consistent.

            The health care law ensures the protection of Medicare for years to come. The life of the Medicare Trust fund will be extended to at least 2029—a 12-year extension due to reductions in waste, fraud and abuse, and Medicare costs, which will provide you with future savings on your premiums and coinsurance.”

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          2. itsfun June 12, 2015

            I read the same article on the Internet. To bad it isn’t right. Like I said, ask any of your senior friends to look at their latest statement from Medicare and you will see.

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          3. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            It is correct. What you fail to understand is, seniors are not paying more out of pocket.

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          4. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            How do you know? are you a senior? Oh yes I forgot you are a senior dingaling .What do you call a senior girl dingaling? You call them Mrs Bat Guano. They hang upside down and make a mess of themselves.

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          5. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            No Hic not a senior but not a child either. Where on the spectrum are you exactly? Do you have care givers? Do they hang you upside down?

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          6. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            In the spectrum of time I am rickety, wrinkled and gaseous. I am hung upside down only over the toilet.

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          7. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            Well my apologies, Mr. Hic. I didn’t realized you were at that stage in life. Smoke or vape it while you got it. 🙂 Better yet, if you still have teeth, have them put it into chocolates or brownies for you.

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          8. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            OMG. You realized you just apologized to me. I know for sure I will die at midnight. Vap is the best. Very little smoke and no throat burn. I refuse to financially accommodate criminals so I have become an expert gardener. Being 80 years old is not so bad as long as you don’t look in the mirror. When you get to the point in life where you would rather be surrounded by the dogs you have rescued than a bevy of naked women you begin to understand the importance of all life. Say what you like but my ten furry friends are more real than most of the people I have known. When I die at midnight it will be all your doing.

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          9. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            Well I certainly hope you don’t expire. I respect my elders even borderline misanthropes. 🙂
            I believe most people just react to their life experiences rather than considering them teaching moments thus remaining open to the possibility if life sucks, it’s temporary. It enables one to wake up the next morning with a new perspective . Try it, if you happen to wake up tomorrow.:-)
            (I wouldn’t make jokes about it if I really thought you were 80, but I’ll play along)
            Besides, you’re an expert gardener with 10 rescue dogs. How bad can it be?

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          10. atc333 June 11, 2015

            That is not documentation, but avoidance. If Medicare is, or becomes at risk, it is only because Congress keeps borrowing from it to fund other programs, rather than bite the bullet, and increase taxes on those who can best afford it, and who have accumulated massive wealth because of years of Reagan/GOP Tax cuts.

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          11. itsfun June 12, 2015

            yea yea yea, why not blame George Washington? Every time this administration screws something up, it is always the fault of someone else. We have listened for 6 years of how everything is George Bush’s fault. Whose fault is it for Obama to have no policy or plan for ISIS.

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          12. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            You are just jealous .

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          13. atc333 June 12, 2015

            Not a chance.

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      2. KathyKursh June 10, 2015

        It still beats the 45% and 34% rate increases of the early 21st century. Or did you forget those rates before the ACA was put into effect? Making a profit off of illness is rather obscene

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        1. itsfun June 10, 2015

          Doctors, nurses, hospital employees, etc have a right to make a living. If you don’t like them, then go to a voodoo witch doctor the next time you get sick.

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          1. Carolyn1520 June 11, 2015

            Charging $10 for and aspirin administered in the hospital and $4.50 for a bandaid is one hell of a profit. It’s criminal.

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          2. itsfun June 11, 2015

            They are simply making up for the dead beats.

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          3. Carolyn1520 June 11, 2015

            Dead beats? Oh that’s right, fellow human beings who dare to get sick when they can’t afford it or those who had preexisting conditions and couldn’t get insurance prior to ACA.

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          4. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            Life is just a bitch. We should sue God for creating us to just get sick and die.

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          5. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            Nap time over?

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          6. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            Why did you wake me up? Typical liberal, won’t let any body get any rest.

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          7. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            So you could have some fun. It’s clearly lacking as evidenced by your poor attitude and negativity.

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          8. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            You could always bring your own.

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          9. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            If I ever have to be hospitalized, I’d consider it.

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        2. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

          Why don’t you go to medical school and when you receive your license you can treat every body for free.

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          1. KathyKursh June 12, 2015

            I raised a Doctor. I worked in the hospital for 25 years. Regardless of what you write, I do understand what I am talking about. No one is talking about treating anyone for free. We are discussing health insurance and the benefits to everyone which have slowed the cost of insurance cost growth across the board.

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          2. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            Wow! good for you I help support several doctors. I guess you could say I am helping raise them out of debt. I had a friend who worked in a hospital for several years changing diapers on adults Now that was truly a $hitty job.

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      3. pisces63 June 10, 2015

        I work for a health insurance company and rates have been going up for all the 30 years I’ve worked here. Deductibles have risen astronomically and out of pockets, also. We employees once paid nothing for coverage and prescriptions. That gradually went up yearly to an amount for single and another for family BUT one rate.
        Now it is broken down to single, single + one, two, three, etc. Family plan is also broken down to family of 4, plus 1 +2 +3 etc. My original
        deductible was 100.00 and is now, depending on coverage up to $4,500.00 or more and THIS BEFORE ACA. We have contracts
        for many groups and they are and have been turning over more and more of the burden on the employee. BEFORE ACA. We lose doctors for many reasons. They no longer have a contract with that
        particular insurance company because they did not like the rates offered. Medicare is a good example. I have told informed people to get a provider/hospital that accepts assign and is contracted with their secondary insurance. i.e. Assigned means if the procedure costs $400.00and the provider does not accept assign, you pay more than the 20% out of pocket. If Medicare’s payment is $200.00 @ 80% = coinsurance of $20.00 + $200.00. If they accept assign, you only pay $20.00 picked up by your secondary
        insurance. If the provider is contracted
        with your secondary insurance, they will pay up to that contract amount even if
        the doctor does not accept assign. IF
        contracted, the payment could be $250.00.
        So, MC pays $180.00 and the secondary payer will pay $70.00. Our prescriptions went from free to $1.00,
        $3.00, $5.00 to now a $20 to $40 deductible on drugs, depending. Mine comes up to over $200.00/month. I have the savings account where I deposit
        money each pay into, to cover co-pays and deductibles and pay it from there. I lost two doctors I loved. One retired
        because of the politics of his facility and another transferred to another
        facility in Florida. I had an internist
        for 10+ years and she left and since I have had more than 10 more. BEFORE ACA.
        You can go to any doctor you want.
        Keep that lie. You just have to
        pay for it or pay more for it. I
        remember a hospital who decided they did not want a contract with us any
        long. None contracting physicians and
        hospitals are not paid to directly. We
        pay the subscriber/patient. WELL, this
        bill came to well over $1 Million and was paid to the sub. Don’t know what happened but they are now
        contracted with us again and have been for years.

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        1. Dominick Vila June 10, 2015

          Thank you for your informative and accurate post. Bear in mind that most Republicans know that their criticisms of the ACA are flawed. They do it because they need something to blame President Obama and Democrats for. Considering their horrible record on foreign and domestic policies, that’s the only option they have left.
          I had identical experiences regarding changes of Primary Care Physicians, and for the same reason. Perhaps somebody should remind Republicans of, when they repeat their lame claim about people having to change doctors because of the ACA, is that most of the participants in the ACA program did not have insurance coverage before it became law, and relied on Emergency Room care, and whomever was on duty, before they were able to get affordable medical care and the physicians they need to stay healthy.

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          1. Carolyn1520 June 11, 2015

            Not to mention a universal standard was set for insurance carriers and it had to be set. If they did not meet the criteria then people may have lost their doctors if that doctor didn’t accept the new insurance carrier. How is that Obama’s fault? Seems to me the person should have asked the doctor what insurance they accepted and then looked into those carriers. ALL doctors have insurance carriers they accept or not.
            Long before ACA I had an insurance carrier my doctor’s group announced a year in advance they would no longer be accepting after a certain date. I wanted to keep the same doctor so when open season came around I switched insurance to enable me to keep my doc.
            The right just wanted something to complain about. If they had to pay more it’s because the insurance company they were with didn’t meet the minimum standards. Again, not Obama’s fault.
            His only error was in not saying you can keep your doctor provided they accept your insurance company who has met the minimum standards under ACA rules.
            With no ACA, the rates would have increased annually anyway. If anyone says they didn’t get annual health insurance increases before, I’d really like to know the name of their insurance carrier.

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          2. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            Ding. Ding,Ding,Ding, goes Carolyn.

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      4. Dominick Vila June 10, 2015

        The justification for insurance coverage rate increases is the fact that the cost of medical equipment, RX, and medical care, in general, has gone up. It is up to state regulators to decide the appropriate rate increase. This has absolutely nothing to do with Obamacare, which covers less than 5% of our population. If anything, cost increases have declined since Obamacare became law.
        Replacing ALL all subsidies with tax credits will not help those who depend on those subsidies to pay their monthly premiums. Personally, I would get rid of subsidies to people like Michele Bachman and the oil companies first, and then try to figure out a more effective way to help those who truly need help.
        I have been on MEDICARE for a very long time, and I have not lost any benefits because of Obamacare. Would you care to elaborate on this? The party that hates seniors is the one that is proposing the privatization of Social Security and MEDICARE, or its dismantling.

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        1. latebloomingrandma June 10, 2015

          I have not lost any Medicare benefits either. I have traditional Medicare, not an HMO or PPO.

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      5. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

        “It is obvious the current Administration hates senior citizens. I saw a quote from one person in the Administration that 75 was long enough for anyone to live”

        Obvious? No, it’s another right wing attempt at something “scandalous”.
        It was a statement made by Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm Emanuel and it’s what he intended for himself in terms of not taking what he deems are unnecessary measures He was talking about the number of costly medical tests and procedures that will not prolong life and that the quality of life past that age is significantly diminished, often by the attempt to prolong life. One can take anything out of context and make it sound horrible. The right excels in it. The death panels folly is a perfect example.
        When I read someone past that age has died, my first thought is, they had a good run. If it’s after a long illness, I think how sad that their quality of life was diminished.
        I opt for quality of life over longevity at any cost.
        Funny how the right is more concerned about life before it begins and the end much more than they care about the quality of people’s lives all those years in between.

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        1. itsfun June 12, 2015

          If you want to opt for quality of life over longevity that is your right, however is is not your right to decide that for anyone else. Even Howard Dean admitted there are death panels. If you mean the right doesn’t like to murder unborn children you are right. What gives you the right to decide when life begins? How do you that tests will not help one to live longer. Are you a doctor or some kind of psychic.

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          1. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            I’m not trying to deicide for anyone else. That’s what republicans do.
            Oh here we go again. More twisting of words. No Dean did not admit there were death panels. He called for a repeal of the cost-cutting board because in his opinion it would have the effect of rationing care by making it hard for doctors to make money from Medicare.
            You don’t have to have an abortion. You just don’t have the right to make that decision for anyone else, ever.

            When one has a disease, terminal or not, and they are elderly and in a fragile state, they aren’t going to live longer with any quality by being subjected to more tests and treatments that are painful and debilitating.
            Cut the am I a doctor or a psychic BS. It’s filler.
            If you want to put yourself through that when a geriatric, go for it. No one except maybe your family will try and stop you. Just don’t do them any favors and sigh a DNR order. Draw it out so they can suffer too.

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          2. itsfun June 12, 2015

            Howard Dean Admits Obamacare Includes Death Panels, Wants Them Repealed

            National Steven Ertelt Jul 29, 2013 | 11:45AM Washington, DC

            When Congress debated
            Obamacare, pro-life advocates and Republicans like Sarah Palin were
            castigated for claiming the government-run health care program would
            include death panels that would ration health care treatment.

            Now, former presidential candidate Howard Dean has essentially
            admitted they were right and is calling for the repeal of the
            Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB). In a Wall Street Journal op-ed Monday he called the IPAB “essentially a health-care rationing body” that he believes will fail.

            “There does have to be control of costs in our health-care system.
            However, rate setting — the essential mechanism of the IPAB — has a
            40-year track record of failure,” Dean wrote.

            Dean, who is a healthcare industry representative as a senior adviser
            at the law and lobbying firm McKenna Long & Aldridge, said his
            experience as governor of Vermont turned him off to government control
            of healthcare prices.

            “What ends up happening in these schemes (which many states including
            my home state of Vermont have implemented with virtually no long-term
            effect on costs) is that patients and physicians get aggravated because
            bureaucrats in either the private or public sector are making medical
            decisions without knowing the patients,” Dean wrote.

            “By setting doctor reimbursement rates for Medicare and determining
            which procedures and drugs will be covered and at what price, the IPAB
            will be able to stop certain treatments its members do not favor by
            simply setting rates to levels where no doctor or hospital will perform
            them,” Dean added. “Most important, once again, these kinds of schemes
            do not control costs. The medical system simply becomes more
            bureaucratic.”

            There does have to be control of costs in our health-care system, Mr.
            Dean writes, but rate setting “has a 40-year track record of failure.”

            More on Dean’s article:

            Dean writes that in order to have a secure future, the
            country has to move away from fee-for-service medicine, “which is all
            about incentives to spend more, and has no incentives in the system to
            keep patients healthy. The IPAB has no possibility of helping to solve
            this major problem and will almost certainly make the system more
            bureaucratic and therefore drive up administrative costs.”

            CLICK LIKE IF YOU’RE PRO-LIFE!

            The IPAB was labeled a “death panel” by Republicans in the run-up to
            the 2010 midterm elections; among its most prominent critics was former
            Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

            On the campaign trail last year, Rep. Paul Ryan, the GOP’s vice
            presidential nominee, said that with the board, Mr. Obama “puts a board
            of 15 unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats in charge of Medicare, who
            are required to cut Medicare in ways that will lead to denied care for
            current seniors.”

            PolitiFact rated the claim “mostly false,” but Mr. Dean has provided some high-profile bipartisan opposition to the board.

            “The IPAB will cause frustration to providers and patients alike, and
            it will fail to control costs,” Mr. Dean wrote. “When, and if, the
            atmosphere on Capitol Hill improves and leadership becomes interested
            again in addressing real problems instead of posturing, getting rid of
            the IPAB is something Democrats and Republicans ought to agree on.”

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          3. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            For the record, the source,” life news”, is a #33 of the top 100 conservative propaganda sites.
            The headline is opinion and the statement “Now, former presidential candidate Howard Dean has essentially admitted they were right” is too. Essentially= this is how I’m going to spin it.

            It’s BS.

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          4. itsfun June 12, 2015

            So if something is published in a conservative leaning site, it is not true? You can spin all you want. I know you won’t let the truth get in the way.

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          5. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            Let’s just say, they aren’t big on factual reporting . You miss my point. It’s the reporters spin on it. There is no direct quote that Howard Dean admitted there are death panels. But you are treating it as though there is.

            “I know you won’t let the truth get in the way.”

            That’s rich, coming from the right. Almost funny.

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  2. FireBaron June 10, 2015

    Should the Court rule against subsidies, there will be something like 8 Million Americans looking to hang the Majority, along with the Insurance Companies withdrawing all financial support from individuals in Congress who have been trying to eliminate the program.

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  3. atc333 June 10, 2015

    One positive result of the Court ruling for the Plaintiff’s could very well be a backlash of 6 million voters against the GOP. I wonder what effect that would have on the party makeup of the House and Senate.
    Regardless, 2016 should be a very interesting year, since Sanders has begun calling out the GOP on the many failures of its economic and political theories

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  4. latebloomingrandma June 10, 2015

    Can NM staff please delete this?

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    1. Freedom Fighter June 10, 2015

      Hate hearing the truth?

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      1. kenndeb June 10, 2015

        Liberals can not recognize the truth, only the lies they are told and tell.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker June 13, 2015

          And oh Grand Pubbah of Upper Butt Crack, you base this premise on facts you can prove in a court of law? Time for the greatly misguided to strop reinventing their own truths and facts and trying to prove negatives. Can’t be done sweetie.

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      2. pisces63 June 10, 2015

        A song
        for you ‘Roses’ by OutKast. Fits you and the right to a ‘tea’!!

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    2. Carolyn1520 June 10, 2015

      Oh no, we need to see exactly what supports the agenda of the right.
      It’s a constant reminder of why we have to vote in force in 2016.

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    3. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

      Delete what? a fly eating its supper.

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  5. pisces63 June 10, 2015

    Thereis just one more thing I have a problem with. To those who had the benefit in 1993 and before and especially to those who never did, let me school you on a major benefit lost when employers took advantage to get off with deny this benefit under the guise of FLMA!! I had surgery around that time. I did not have to use my personal or vacationtime. We had benefits paid under short term medical leave which covers up to 8 weeks or maybe a little more. I was out 6 for major abdominal surgery. This would have applied to women who werepregnant, also. The benefit covered 2weeks before due date to up to 8 weeks after at full pay and benefits. FLMA passed and Clinton signed it in February1993. In 1994, my job cut back on short term leave. You had to use some of your time and they cut the pay to 2/3. This gradually dwindled until it is now fully FLMA. You use all your time(vacation,
    sick, personal) and then it kicks into FLMA with NO pay at all. People have had to return to work before a
    doctor would advise them too because of financial difficulties. People blame Obama for loss of doctors or
    coverage by their insurance plans. Why
    wasn’t Clinton blamed for a very steep cut in a needed benefit? Employers
    will blame the government for many things and then avail themselves to anything
    they can misuse.

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  6. pisces63 June 10, 2015

    Brush
    your teeth and maybe, just maybe, you wouldn’t smell like it. Your subconscious speaking.

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  7. Carolyn1520 June 10, 2015

    Oh I see the best of the right crawled out to respond to this one with their inane mouth dumps. Too boring to even respond to.

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    1. hicusdicus June 11, 2015

      Speaking of boring, how are you doing?

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      1. Carolyn1520 June 11, 2015

        Hey Hic,
        I see you don’t find me boring enough not to acknowledge my presence.
        Took that personally, did ya. 🙂

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        1. hicusdicus June 11, 2015

          I welcome your comments they help me fall asleep. Its a toss up between you or a joint. I think I like you better, you are more fun.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker June 12, 2015

            I see you have another female prey Hicusdicus….is this all you have to do with your free time? Look for women to attack all day? Wow..some quality of life you must have. NOT

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          2. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            LOL He’s harmless. Much like a fruit fly. We understand each other.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker June 12, 2015

            Bless you…You have the patience of Job. I lost all patience with men the day I was born into an all male family…rofl. You deserve a medal for valor and courage. lol

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          4. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            Thank you but I really. don’t. I just don’t take too many things seriously. We’re all in this together and more alike than we are different in ways that are important. Men were given the ability to do some things standing up and we got common sense. 😀
            Who do they thank in public forums? Their mothers!
            You deserve the medal for having put up with the creature who appears here to torment you. I don’t want to say his name in case someone else had said it twice. 🙂

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          5. Eleanore Whitaker June 12, 2015

            I wish some men in this country had your attitude. I also notice that they seem to thank their moms (especially athletes). I picked up some very male traits from constantly being surrounded (not by choice) by men…rofl. Men do have a lot of things to teach women. Some good, some bad.

            I’ve always been goal oriented. I can’t see the point in starting something that can’t be finished with positive results.

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          6. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            I see! Is this an engagement or have you two lovers set the date?

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          7. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            No, we’re both vying for your attention. 😀

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          8. Eleanore Whitaker June 13, 2015

            Awwwww how sweet….! Little Hi Hi feels ignored and deprived of female attention.

            My experience of 68 years living totally surrounded every day by men is that men have NO concept of fair in practice. In theory, yes?

            Any woman old enough to call herself a Golden Girl, has the experience of a lifetime of proof that men and women do not now nor ever will think alike. Too much of our US history proves this.

            If there is no difference between genders, why then has the government been male dominated for the past 235+ years? Without differences in gender, women would have been totally equal.

            It’s rather myopic to believe men and women think alike when men have only the past 4 decades of women working outside the home and earning their own salaries. Sorry, on this gender equality issue, I cannot agree.

            Women, according to the DOL, in 2015 still earn 77 cents less for every $1 a man earns doing equal work. How is that not gender bias?

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          9. hicusdicus June 13, 2015

            EW You can’t be a golden girl cause gold does not tarnish. Why would any man want to think like a girly Then men would have to sit down, Next they would be complaining about the position of the toilet seat. Come on girl you know why men dominate, they are the ones with the hat rack I bet you have worked up some big smiles looking for one to hang your hat on..

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          10. Eleanore Whitaker June 14, 2015

            Your post proves what ALL women know so well…that you can’t think as a person. Your every thought, word and action reeks of MALE…Male Autonomy Legitimizing Exclusivity. Try again.

            As for your BS all too too male attitude of male superiority, I’d give it a rest if I were you. In case you missed it, the next president will be a woman. Eat your heart out Mr. MALE.

            I refuse to dignify your stupid remarks I know come from a life of having women wait on you hand and foot. Sorry…no handmaiden of the lords am I.

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          11. hicusdicus June 14, 2015

            Wow keeping up with you is difficult. First you were president of the camel toe club . Now you have quit that position to run for election in the Moose Knuckle lodge. Whats it going to be camel toes or Moose Knuckles? Surely not both. I don’t think mankind could handle that. Its so frightening to me I may have to sign up for a gender change.

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          12. Eleanore Whitaker June 15, 2015

            Most people can’t keep up with a dynamo. If you want proof of my presidency of the Lions Club from 1974 to 1980 (I was president twice), check the Lions International Archives for NJ chapters. If you want proof of who was President of a Museum and Historical Society in Madison Township, you can contact the museum and ask who was president from 2004 to 2006.

            In those charitable and civic organizations, members in Lions International are mostly male business men. The museum’s historical society had members who were quite well known as authors, photographers, business owners and historians from Rutgers and several other NJ colleges.

            Some of us give back for what we have been given. Others? They just sit back on their haunches with their hands open waiting for someone to fulfill ALL their needs.

            Try volunteering….It’s great exercise for the body, the mind and growing interpersonal relationships with people who matter most.

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          13. hicusdicus June 15, 2015

            It seems you are having an identity crisis. Hanging out with lions does not make you one. Most of the lions I have ever seen were bad tempered and covered with flies. Perhaps a Hippo club would better suit you. Lots of refreshing water and plenty of crocodiles to hang out with. It would help you throw off the moose knuckle stigma and get up to speed. Since I have seldom been given anything I will just sit back and keep what I have. Since you are so typical of the human stain I have decide to to leave my capital base of over 7 figures to a variety of animal shelters where it might actually do the world some good.

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          14. DJKatieOrganic June 15, 2015

            ROTFLMAO!!!

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          15. hicusdicus June 15, 2015

            This woman is more fun than a yard full of puppies. Not as smart but a lot of laughs.

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          16. hicusdicus June 13, 2015

            Okay, but you have to pick the correct curtain.

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          17. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            Some men do. You’re right. It’s the others predominately on the right who missed that class. 🙂
            I think we all possess similar traits without regard to gender. In assigning it, it divides rather than unites us in common causes.
            The “men” who are threatened by women are the ones who attempt to make insulting gender references. It’s the same ones who call women lesbians when rejected because it couldn’t possibly be them who has a problem. 🙂

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          18. hicusdicus June 13, 2015

            She loves it, Makes her think she is special which of course she must be. But as yet we have not been able to discover what it is. With out EW this whole blog would be a flubb

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          19. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            You were mad and felt cheated cause you lost your testicles on the way out. Get some man to buy you a mirror, if you look long enough you just might find them. They may be tiny but they will be all yours.

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          20. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            Look at you calling me a fruit. I just might fly off the handle and drop a loaf in your coffee.

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          21. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            What in life could be more fun than dingalinging around with some little girl brain. OOOOH I am a girl, buy me something.

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          22. Eleanore Whitaker June 13, 2015

            Your post only proves what lousy taste you have in women if the only women you attract are financially dependent, clinging vine golddiggers.

            Sorry, the ladies up north don’t need a man to support us. We earn our own livings, even though our salaries are 77 cent to every dollar men earn even in 2015.

            Were I you, I’d sharpen up my taste in women to include those who don’t really need you…and just want you around for amusement.

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          23. Carolyn1520 June 12, 2015

            Glad to be of service. And when you are sleeping, you aren’t commenting. 🙂

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          24. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

            The only time I do comment is when I am half asleep. One does not need to be conscious when answering one of your girly comments.

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  8. bukaroo5 June 10, 2015

    Tell me your perquisites, and I’ll tell you how you vote

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    1. Carolyn1520 June 11, 2015

      Job perks?
      I have plenty but I’m as left as they lean. I know, one of the few not getting hand outs.:-) What a concept huh?

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  9. charleo1 June 10, 2015

    T-Bagger turd…. and a freedom fighter! Well aren’t you special????

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  10. Eleanore Whitaker June 12, 2015

    Definition of you? An “ignernt” male BS CON man. Don’;t you boys ever grow up? As for this photo…I hope whoever posted it lands in jail. YOu don’t post photos of the President of the US with a bullet in his forehead you asshat. Where the hell is National Memo on this? Why aren’t you in jail?

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    1. Freedom Fighter June 12, 2015

      The Truth hurts huh? LOL

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    2. hicusdicus June 12, 2015

      That looks more like a fly to me. I could be a fruit fly. Maybe it is just a regular fly having dinner on a $hit head. It seems like all the experience that you have had with men you would know all about fly’s.

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    3. Freedom Fighter June 15, 2015

      LOL, you do know what a fly is don’t you?

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