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Retired Gen. Michael Flynn attended White House intel briefings while working for foreign clients

So much for Donald Trump’s promise to muzzle Washington lobbyists: He has offered the crucial position of White House national security adviser to Michael Flynn, a retired lieutenant general who is registered to lobby for a foreign company whose owner has close ties to the president of Turkey. And just last year, Flynn accepted payment from Russia’s state-owned television network to attend a celebration in Moscow. At that party he sat next to Russian president Vladimir Putin.

What makes Flynn’s lobbying role even more troubling, according to a new report by Yahoo News chief investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff, was his attendance at classified intelligence briefings with Trump last summer — while advising both the presidential candidate and his foreign clients.

President Obama’s former ethics adviser Norm Eisen, who also served as ambassador to the Czech Republic, told Yahoo News: “This is profoundly troubling and should be disqualifying,” and predicted that Flynn’s appointment as national security adviser will result in “wholesale resignations of national security professionals, and I believe some have already drafted their resignation letters.”

Ironically, Flynn’s reported appointment came on the same day that Trump announced he will require everyone involved with the transition to sever their relationships with lobbying clients and to forego any lobbying contracts for five years after their government service concludes. But the new policy — which removed many lobbyists from the Trump transition — does not apply to past clients.

Questions immediately arose over whether Flynn had signed a White House “memorandum of understanding” that required all transition team members to disclose their finances and certify that they had no conflicts of interest. To meet that requirement, the retired general — who formerly headed the Defense Intelligence Agency until he was forced to step down in 2014 — would have to reveal details about his company, the Flynn Intel Group, whose client list remains largely unknown. But the commercial aim of Flynn’s outfit is to provide “private business intelligence” to domestic and foreign corporations.

Information that might be gleaned from a classified White House intelligence briefing, like the sessions afforded to Trump and top figures in his campaign since last summer, would be invaluable to such clients. Through his attorney, Flynn issued a statement pledging that “if I return to government service, my relationship with my company will be severed, in accordance with the policy announced by President-elect Trump.”

As recently as last week, Flynn published an article in The Hill newspaper promoting the views of the increasingly repressive Turkish government headed by President Recep Tayip Erdogan. Specifically, he advocated the extradition to Turkey of Fethullan Gulen, an adversary of Erdogan who currently lives in the United States. Flynn denounced Gulen, blamed by the Turkish government for the recent coup attempt in Istanbul, as “a shady Islamic mullah” — and compared him to Osama bin Laden.

Yahoo News also quoted Danielle Brian, executive director of the Project on Government Oversight, who called Flynn’s presence at classified briefings when he was representing foreign clients “deeply disturbing.” Brian added, “It’s exactly the kind of foreign entanglements our laws are designed to prevent.”

Millions of Americans watched Flynn gleefully chanting “Lock her up!” along with delegates to the Republican National Convention in Cleveland last July, a taunting reference to Hillary Clinton for her alleged failure to protect classified information in her emails. “If I did a tenth of what she did,” he yelled, “I’d be in jail today!” Of course the FBI found that she had broken no laws — and reviews of thousands of her emails revealed that she had not knowingly disclosed any classified material or endangered national security.

Now the tables are turned — and perhaps the blustering general will have to explain why he sat in those highly classified briefings while he was still providing “private business intelligence” to foreign interests.

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  1. Box November 18, 2016

    Fine. Kick him out. Next applicant?

    If you have lived long enough its impossible to remain squeaky clean. Even monks who barely saw the light of day were guilty of sin.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker November 18, 2016

      Hillary was Secretary of State. 4300 people didn’t die in NY City on her watch. That was your SOS Rice. Admit it. Or don’t you have the balls?

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      1. Miyako November 18, 2016

        Yeah..(4300) They Were living In The Doorways And cardboard Homes The Liberals Created For them In Progressive NYC NY..! Lol Lol Lol The Left..Is Loaded With loonies”’!

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        1. CrankyToo November 18, 2016

          Not for nothing, Miyako, but you sound like a “loonie” yourself. And why do you capitalize every word you type? What’s the meaning of that?

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          1. Jon November 18, 2016

            Russians not well versed in the rules of English grammar often do that. You see a lot of i for I too.

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          2. Miyako November 19, 2016

            ADC Command. When you Weren’t Born.(Viet-Nam era) AIR DALE. Got your attention”? Eh..? Capitals. Loonie..? When You Think Left..what The Hell Do YOU know”? spoon fed. Hillary in my opinion is a LIVE Witch. And a Closet Homo-sexual. Try that.

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          3. CrankyToo November 19, 2016

            I get it… you’re a phucking idiot. And an a$$hole into the bargain.

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          4. plc97477 November 20, 2016

            English is not his/her first language.

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        2. Eleanore Whitaker November 18, 2016

          No liberals up north live like that. But you do have a lot of southern and midwestern hicks who do. That’s why you live on welfare and troll for pay right dickhead?

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    2. greenlantern1 November 18, 2016

      Kissinger was sinless?

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    3. Michael Allen November 19, 2016

      Yes, “What if…?” A favorite game. “What if Superman had been allied with Nazi Germany?” “What if Sparticus had the use of a Piper Cub?”

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  2. Box November 18, 2016

    Here is what happened election night with Hillary.

    http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2016/exposed-hillarys-psychological-breakdown-when-she-lost-included-wild-screaming-throwing-of-objects-at-humans

    There are two things intolerable in the world, one is cowardice. All the world hates a coward and Hillary displayed monumental cowardice by nixing the end. Cowardice is never forgiven, and isnt it a crime in the military? And what, give a person a crisis and they run and hide as the solution?

    For all the arrows Trump took, he never choked, gave up, hid, or ran. He stood there and took them, no matter what. Amazing bravery. Hillary could have ended it so well, professionally and be remembered in the best light. She said the other day, “I just want to curl up and never leave the house.” Thats a president? You cant turn back the clock.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker November 18, 2016

      No moron…That is NOT what happened. Dream on Mr. MAN. First of all? Comey “found new emails” that were BS and he used them to cause doubt in the minds of those who might have voted for Hillary. Not that it really matters. Now that most of the votes are in, Hillary won by over 1 million popular votes and oooooh how that busts your chops right?

      So, it came down to the Electoral College. Now the semantics in place were that a year before the election hicks from your RepubliNAZI states starting to play around with their redictricting maps. Until, NC got hauled before the SC for trying to shut down polling places in minority voting districts.

      You boys really think women are not onto your childish games? Bought you now bought the trouble you are going to get.

      What in the hell makes you think Trump will point and delegate and every world leader and ISIS will obey like you jackass males of the right think women will?

      To prove what a failure he is, last week he issued the command to protestors, “Stop!” They didn’t.

      Now when he pulls that BS with ISIS, I will make sure ISIS knows YOU and your mongrel rabid bully dogs were the ones who put Trump in the wrong place.

      You cannot force women to obey. We will NOT and certainly not on our tax dollars. You forget one thing Mr. Big Mouth MAN…women pay taxes too…all we have to do is FORCE you men to get off those lazy butts and work for change. That’s an easy one..we just won’t work ourselves as hard as we do and when we do, it will be for WOMEN, not men.

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      1. Miyako November 18, 2016

        Hillary (Real Life Witch) Lost Because she is Evil’! A Liar,Conniver,Con Artist..Filled With Hate And ‘Rage’.. Sees The World through Her demented Selfish Eyes.She Lost Because Common Sense People Saw Through Her Lies And deception. I Personally Think…? She Is a ‘Closet’ Homosexual. A Deviant..Bad Person”! GO TRUMP”’!

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        1. Jon November 18, 2016

          Yeah that’s Stephen Bannon said too. Red Flag News and Storm Front said the same thing. It must be true.

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        2. Eleanore Whitaker November 18, 2016

          Aww…what’s the matter bitchy Boy? Too much woman for a limp noodle like you?

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          1. CPANY November 22, 2016

            Any Japanese first name that ends in “ko” denotes a woman.

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker November 23, 2016

            Right…Just like any American first name that ends in Trump denotes a Crook?

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        3. The lucky one November 18, 2016

          “Hillary (Real Life Witch) Lost Because she is Evil’! A Liar,Conniver,Con Artist..Filled With Hate And ‘Rage’.” For how ever much that may be true we know that isn’t why she lost because Trump is the epitome of Evil’! A Liar,Conniver,Con Artist..Filled With Hate And ‘Rage’

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    2. greenlantern1 November 18, 2016

      Was Tammy Duckworth a coward?
      John Kerr a coward?
      Did Trump serve in the military?

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker November 18, 2016

        They are going to get exactly what they asked for…another terrorist attack. Trump hates rules and regulations. He mouths off at ISIS and these hicks are incinerated.

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        1. Theodora30 November 18, 2016

          Where in the world do you live that you assume you won’t get incinerated, too?

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      2. Theodora30 November 18, 2016

        No if I recall correctly he had his personal Vietnam to fight – the one where he tried not to get VD.

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    3. latebloomingrandma November 18, 2016

      Trump gets even. His enemies list will probably be longer than Nixon’s. And talk about choking. He sure didn’t take his bluster to Mexico when he went there. He didn’t confront the President with “You will pay for our big beautiful wall.”

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      1. Jon November 18, 2016

        Not only Mexico, remember the pastor in Flint, Michigan who refused to let him use her church as a place to campaign and how he cowered and started mumbling and babbling. Just as with the Mexican President, he tucked his tail between his legs and whimpered as he slunk away defeated. Later when he didn’t have to look her in the eye as he lied, he launched a series of lies attacking her and completely fabricating a story about what happened. What a spineless coward!

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        1. dpaano November 18, 2016

          I just read that Trump sent out a twitter stating how he is taking credit for the Ford Motor Co. not moving their Lincoln manufacturing to Mexico, something that they hadn’t planned on doing anyway and tried to explain to him numerous times (apparently he only hears what he wants to hear). They never had ANY plans to move this particular auto manufacturing to Mexico…..merely moving some of their smaller automobile manufacturing there and concentrating more on trucks, SUV’s, etc., in the U.S.A. But, he’s taking credit for “talking them into not moving” a plant that they had no plans on moving to begin with. What an idiot!!! The problem is his followers believe him and think he’s the greatest! In the meantime, Ford is STILL moving their smaller auto manufacturing to Mexico, just as they have always planned on doing. There was NEVER any plans to close any Ford plants in the United States and the Ford Co. made that extremely clear. None of their employees were going to lose their jobs!

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        2. plc97477 November 20, 2016

          What astounds me is this spineless coward is who the right chose to save them from their boogie man.

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      2. Eleanore Whitaker November 18, 2016

        Trump doesn’t believe in rules and regulations. He will screw up so badly for that reason and the fact that he must always be the BOSS. Try that with the world leaders and watch him tumble into the toilet.

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    4. The lucky one November 18, 2016

      Trump, Amazing bravery???? LMAO, really. That is probably the most ridiculous statement anyone has ever posted here.

      “Back in 1968, at the age of 22, Donald J. Trump seemed the picture of health.

      But after he graduated from college in the spring of 1968, making him eligible to be drafted and sent to Vietnam, he received a diagnosis that would change his path: bone spurs in his heels.

      The diagnosis resulted in a coveted 1-Y medical deferment that fall, exempting him from military service as the United States was undertaking huge troop deployments to Southeast Asia, inducting about 300,000 men into the military that year.

      The deferment was one of five Mr. Trump received during Vietnam. The others were for education.”

      BTW his education was far less sterling than he claims. He attended Fordham but didn’t graduate and he didn’t graduate from Wharton with honors as he claims. In his ghost written book he says ““In my opinion, that [Wharton] degree doesn’t prove very much”

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    5. The lucky one November 18, 2016

      “He stood there and took them” actually he was dishing it out far more than taking it and he is notoriously thin-skinned and vindictive. “Never choked”? Apparently you didn’t watch the “debates”.

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  3. Theodora30 November 18, 2016

    From everything I read this position does not need Senate confirmation.

    Flynn looks to be quite the war monger. Her is an excerpt from an op ed piece he wrote this past summer in the NY Post:

    “We’re in a global war, facing an enemy alliance that runs from Pyongyang, North Korea, to Havana, Cuba, and Caracas, Venezuela. Along the way, the alliance picks up radical Muslim countries and organizations such as Iran, al Qaeda, the Taliban and Islamic State.

    That’s a formidable coalition, and nobody should be shocked to discover that we are losing the war.

    If our leaders were interested in winning, they would have to design a strategy to destroy this global enemy. But they don’t see the global war. Instead, they timidly nibble around the edges of the battlefields from Africa to the Middle East, and act as if each fight, whether in Syria, Iraq, Nigeria, Libya or Afghanistan, can be peacefully resolved by diplomatic effort….

    I believe we can and must win. This war must be waged both militarily and politically; we have to destroy the enemy armies and combat enemy doctrines….

    As we defeat them on the ground, we must clearly and forcefully attack their crazy doctrines. Defeat on battlefields does great damage to their claim to be acting as agents of divine will. After defeating al Qaeda in Iraq, we should have challenged the Islamic world and asked: “How did we win? Did Allah change sides?”

    We need to denounce them as false prophets, as we insist on the superiority of our own political vision.”

    http://nypost.com/2016/07/09/the-military-fired-me-for-calling-o

    Good thing Trump wants to avoid foreign entanglements. It’s not like Flynn will be able to play him like a fiddle. We all know Trump doesn’t get off on aggression and bullying. Let’s see if our courageous MSM will make it clear to the public just what Flynn stands for.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker November 18, 2016

      So basically, you think that the global enemies will just sit still while Americans annihilate them? Boy are you stupid or what?

      Do you have ANY idea how many terrorists groups there are today? Easily 6 major groups and over 500 splinter groups. And they are all armed and more dangerous than you imagine.

      What do you want the US to do? Build a wall around the country? Keep out allies as well as foreign enemies? Wow..I do hope the next attack by ISIS that’s coming is on YOUR states, not ours. I would love nothing more than to see you and your stupid ignorant hick states get what you asked for.

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      1. Theodora30 November 18, 2016

        I am a liberal Democrat, though not a Bernie supporter. I just posted what Flynn said, not what I think. (Notice the quotation marks.) Trump campaigned against foreign entanglement, even claiming he opposed the Iraq war but appointed a guy who advocates for more military engagement. Clearly his supporters got conned, not that they are likely to ever hear about it since they only get their info from right wing propaganda outlets.
        Your vitriol is lowering the quality of the discussion on this website which I find very discouraging. This was one site I counted on for serious, reasoned debate (Like with Dominic Villa). Aglander has definitely lowered the tone and derailed a lot of discussions, but I do not remember you doing that until recently.
        As for wishing that hick states get what they asked for, the rest of us will suffer badly, too, if any state is attacked or if a lot of what Trump and Co. are proposing gets adopted. I know a lot of Trump supporters who will absolutely freak out and be badly hurt if Medicare is privatized but so will the rest of us who are on Medicare and everyone eventually. Trump may have promised to protect it but he also said he would unleashed the magic of the free market to solve our health care problems which is exactly what privatization is. Like it or not we are all in this together.

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        1. latebloomingrandma November 18, 2016

          McConnell and Ryan came out of that meeting with Trump with shitty grins on their faces. Trumpster probably told them he’d sign anything they sent him. Ryan is itching to take a meat cleaver to Medicare. They all better get ready for the tsunami of senior citizens coming after them if they even get close.

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        2. sigrid28 November 19, 2016

          Without a doubt, the people who voted for Trump and his kind of change are in for a rude surprise, one which may, in the end, hurt all of us. What does NOT hurt us is the presence of vivid content in NM’s comment threads. There is a time for peace and a time for war, sayeth the prophet. Which time is this, would you say? IMO, the back and forth of reasoned discourse on NM’s comment threads is a breath of fresh air. But I also value EW’s peppery arguments: I think of her as our shieldmaiden.

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        3. Eleanore Whitaker November 19, 2016

          Theodora…Sometimes, “Nice” just doesn’t get through these warped minds. Would that it did. Now..Let me tell you why I think it would be justifiable for these Republican states to go through what we here in NY and NJ did on 9/11. We’d get up every day for over 3 months and now that the fly ash coming from Ground Zero floating over the Raritan River into NJ air streams was from human remains. That you idea of you suffering?

          How about watching the 11 families in my town try to find out if their loved ones who worked in Tower 1 and Tower 2 were still alive. You hurt? Really?

          How about the fact that Bush got our former Governor Whitman to tell the Ground Zero emergency workers that there were no contaminants in the air when she knew there was? Like seeing people die from that? And having Republicans refuse to offer one dime for their medical care?

          This is what “I” lived through …not to mention the one man who managed to escape Tower 1. He worked in another company across the hall from our environmental engineering company. This man was like a zombie. Little noises scared him senseless..this was a man who had a great career in a firm that used to be in Tower 1.

          Then, there are the business people who streamed into NJ via Exit 8A of the NJ Turnpike to get to jobs that USED to be in those Towers.

          Sorry but don’t preach to me about Trump supporters or that monster Trump. I know far too much about him and his aberrant behavior.

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          1. Theodora30 November 19, 2016

            I do not disagree with you about Trump. He is terrifying. (Too bad the NY FBI office did not decide to go after him years ago. ) I am originally from NY and lived for several years in DC. I have a relative who was at the Pentagon when it was hit. Thankfully she was not physically hurt but she was helped try to rescue people (she is a nurse) and she has suffered a lot because of that horrible experience.
            What worries me most now is how to change the beliefs of millions so people who have been consuming right wing propaganda (Fox News, radio internet) for so many years. I have to deal with people like that on a regular basis. They really believe what they are hearing. They have been duped (and dupes) for years but their votes count as much as yours and mine. Being confrontational just makes them all the more sure they are right. At least that is the case with the Trump supporters I know.

            I know a man who is now in his nineties but was in Hitler’s honor guard as a young man. He told me he was a true believer and only changed after he was sent to a reeducation camp after the war that was run by Americans. His family was destroyed by the war so he moved here in the 50’s and went on to march with Dr. King and fight against bigotry in all its forms. He was extremely upset by the election of Bush and what was happening then. He told me the amount of right wing propaganda flooding the country – and the willingness of the mainstream media to either downplay it or, worse, play along – reminded him of Germany in the 30’s. It really frightened him because he knew first hand the power of propaganda, I cannot imagine what he would say about what is happening now. I guess it is a blessing that he is not capable of understanding it.

            Liberals need to find a way to get control of the political discussion instead of allowing the Karl Roves, Roger Ailes, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Breitbart, etc. to frame the debate, leaving them to react instead of framing the terms of the debate. Personally, I put a lot of blame on the mainstream media for their insane faux balance, bothsiderism. I can diagnose the sickness but I am clueless how to cure it aside from all of us going through a debacle horrible enough to snap us out of this insanity. I thought the disaster that was the Bush administration would have done the trick but clearly it did not.

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          2. sigrid28 November 20, 2016

            What a great post! Keep them coming.

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          3. Theodora30 November 20, 2016

            Thank you.

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    2. greenlantern1 November 18, 2016

      Ever hear of FinCen?
      It is part of the Treasury Department.
      It levied, a $10,000,000 fine, against Trump Taj Mahal!
      That fine was paid!
      It was used, by terrorists, to launder money!
      Terrorists!
      ISIS?
      Shouldn’t Trump know what goes on in THOSE buildings?

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    3. Jon November 18, 2016

      Trump said “I love war.” That must be one of the 1 out of 4 statements he makes that was true. The statements about adopting a more isolationist policy must be part of the 3 out of 4 that are false. He’ll keep everyone guessing which will be the one true statement.

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    4. FireBaron November 18, 2016

      Actually, National Security Adviser DOES require senate confirmation.

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      1. Theodora30 November 18, 2016

        No. I have checked that several times and everything I read and hear on my TeeVee box says no.

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    5. dpaano November 18, 2016

      Does Trump or Flynn realize that GWB was the one that started all this mess and had much to do with Al Qaeda and ISIS?

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      1. Theodora30 November 19, 2016

        They know but they also know they will be allowed to get away with blaming Democrats. The debt is Obama’s fault, too, not Bush’s who blew the Clinton surplus with his tax cuts even before the war. The mainstream media has allowed this to go on for years.

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  4. Aaron_of_Portsmouth November 18, 2016

    Good to know Flynn learned the art of bilking the system and democracy to his benefit. That would be an asset in a Trump Administration, and maybe convince Russia of the value of trading a totalitarian system for a system that gives the appearance of being a democracy but still supports an oligarchical schema with power concentrated in the hands of a privileged few.

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    1. Dominick Vila November 18, 2016

      He was also considered a loose cannon by his fellow Generals, and ousted from his command post at the DIA. Having said that, he is probably more knowledgeable of world affairs than most of the other “finalists” that were being considered.

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      1. sigrid28 November 18, 2016

        Like Sarah Palin for Secretary of the Interior: “I can see Russia from my porch!”

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        1. latebloomingrandma November 18, 2016

          Just goes to show us—being royally pi$$ed off at the government is no reason to vote for an equally pi$$ed off person who knows NOTHING. Never being involved in government except to bilk it (not paying federal tax), he has no contacts or reliable rolladex of people, other than the thugs he does business with.
          I doubt that before his initial lark of a run for President, he ever had a deep discussion of government or history with anyone of substance. The fact that he can’t string 2 sentences together shows it. That why he likes twitter. He talks like an adolescent.
          This is going to be a real bumpy ride. I just hope our country isn’t taken down before we can get him out of office.

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          1. sigrid28 November 18, 2016

            As Rachel Maddow pointed out, event the whiff of nepotism in the Carter administration set off six months of hearings and investigations–and Trump’s concerns amount to more than peanuts (if you will forgive the pun). Trump’s refusal to recognize the difference between his position in his own businesses and the presidency of the United States could very likely get him ousted from office. I think some of the lack of pushback right now is like President Obama in the second debate against Romney: “Please proceed, Governor.”

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          2. dpaano November 18, 2016

            But, as I said before, then we’d be stuck with Pence, who is even worse! He ruined Indiana….now he will ruin the entire nation!

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          3. sigrid28 November 18, 2016

            It’s a troubling thought, Pence, with that lying choir boy face of his and annoying, pleading voice, dripping with insincerity, bloviating over the airwaves daily, like a television evangelist. I like Pence better in the closet where Trump keeps him.

            However, Pence it will be. The silver lining is that Pence served in Congress for some time, so there are (cover your ears, Trumpistadores) Washington insiders who will “know things” about him, things that might keep him in line until these four miserable years are over. Pence’s awful record in Indiana can be used against him if he is president.

            Another advantage to a Pence presidency: The Trump voters will be schooled. I think the types who liked Trump will be angry to see Pence take his place, if Trump gets himself impeached, as he seems to be trying very hard to do. They will be “madder than hops,” as the American regional expression goes, to find their darling King of Change replaced by a bad liar who is just about indistinguishable from all the other boring Republicans they voted against.

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          4. dpaano November 21, 2016

            Trump has already said that he expects Pence to do most of the work and he’s just going to sit back and do whatever he does best…..con everyone!

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          5. plc97477 November 20, 2016

            Pence is worse than trump but I think he will be easier to fight. He is not oblivious to the voters to the extent that trump is. Pence knows he needs them trump not so much.

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          6. didactic1 November 18, 2016

            So pass a VAT and get rid of the income tax. Stiff tariffs on East Asia and Brazil would help as well.

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          7. dpaano November 18, 2016

            Sure….it’ll raise prices for those pretty things that we all buy because they’re cheaper than anything built in the U.S. Do you have a single logical bone in your body? I seriously doubt it!

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          8. didactic1 November 18, 2016

            Use your larger income. Or save and invest.

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          9. dpaano November 21, 2016

            What “larger” income? Much like every other middle class person, I work for a living (even at age 70) and bring home a paycheck that barely covers my expenses.

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          10. didactic1 November 21, 2016

            Stop eating. Meditate.

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          11. dpaano November 22, 2016

            You’re an idiot….what in heck does my comment have to do with “eating?” Seriously?

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          12. didactic1 November 22, 2016

            Have a meta-day.

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          13. yabbed November 18, 2016

            Actually, countries with VATS require income taxes as well. VAT does not replace income taxes. But, being a Russkie, you wouldn’t know that.

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          14. latebloomingrandma November 18, 2016

            A VAT tax would be hardest on the poor. And somehow, I think the wealthy would find a way to wiggle out of it.

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        2. FireBaron November 18, 2016

          Sigrid, unfortunately, I have to defend the useless twit you cited in your first paragraph. That was actually TIna Fey lampooning her.

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          1. sigrid28 November 18, 2016

            So sweet of you to put it like this. My bad for not indicating that I knew it was Tina Fey, whom I think I misquoted: It’s “house” not “porch,” as memory now serves me better than earlier this morning. What you note, however, does point to a troubling aspect of the Trump transition team: It’s resemblance to the cast of a reality show, maybe not “Big Brother” but “Big White House,” or even “Survivor: White House 2016.” Perhaps we have all, myself included, been too forgiving of this flippancy with regard to a serious matter: That “useless twit” Sarah Palin might have been vice president and now, perhaps, secretary of the interior. Trump might actually be putting an incompetent person in charge of the nation’s drinking water. Maybe he just wants to sell even more of his bottled product, unless I’m wrong about that, too.

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          2. plc97477 November 20, 2016

            To be honest palin did say that you can see russia from parts of alaska, she just did not mention her house or porch at the time.

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        3. didactic1 November 18, 2016

          Hillary thinks she sees the middle class from her Chappaqua estate. I suppose her servants do get paid well.

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          1. jmprint November 18, 2016

            What do you know about what Hillary thinks? I think you are a Russian troll.

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          2. didactic1 November 18, 2016

            Oh another McCarthy-Hillary reincarnation. Are we at war with Russia? Should we be? I think Hillary pretty much told us what we knew already when her slimy remarks to the bankers came out.

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          3. jmprint November 18, 2016

            Those remarks are nothing compared to the sleeze bags of the new administration, it’s gonna be fun, when they start dropping like flies.

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          4. didactic1 November 18, 2016

            Who is spraying? Pelosi ‘ s bladder?

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          5. dpaano November 18, 2016

            Oh, you mean the ones that were taken completely out of context by the GOP??? Those??? Boy, have you been fooled……and by a typical low-life con man!

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          6. yabbed November 18, 2016

            Have you seen the list of bankers, Wall Streeters, oil and petroleum companies that Giuliani made his multiple millions from for giving speeches? 🙂

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          7. yabbed November 18, 2016

            Have you seen Trump’s tasteless gold plated apartment? It’s a classless crude absurdity. And we all know Trump is famous for not paying people. His refusal to pay what he owes is part of the 8500 outstanding lawsuits against him at the moment. 🙂

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          8. didactic1 November 18, 2016

            I agree that Trump’s taste is gaudy. But so what? He doesn’t pretend to be someone who came up from nothing. Bill Clinton did. Obama didn’t. Neither did North Shore Hillary.

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          9. dpaano November 18, 2016

            Because he DIDN’T come up from nothing. Hillary, President Obama, and Bill Clinton ALL came from middle class families. They know more about what we middle class people deal with on a day to day basis than Trump or any of his cronies!!

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          10. yabbed November 18, 2016

            He thinks of himself as a very very plump Marie Antoinette. 🙂

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          11. dpaano November 18, 2016

            Everything I’ve seen of his Trump Towers apartment appears gaudy and overblown! I couldn’t live in that mess he calls home…..it’s ridiculous! You’d think he was a king living in a palace…..which is what he THINKS he is anyway!

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          12. plc97477 November 20, 2016

            My take on the rump is he thinks he is more of a god than king.

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        4. dpaano November 18, 2016

          Unfortunately, if HE goes, we’ll be stuck with Pence, who’s even worse!!

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        5. JPHALL November 18, 2016

          Remember they voted for him to change the Washington cesspool. I guess that to them this is an example of that change.

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        6. Dominick Vila November 19, 2016

          In the interim, he settled the Trump “U” case out of Court for $25M, and the woman who claimed to have been raped by Trump when she was 13 years old suddenly decided to drop her claim. I wish a good investigative reporter would check her bank account…

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          1. sigrid28 November 19, 2016

            My understanding is–without being able to verify–that Trump has many more cases outstanding, which would make sense because of the way he has bilked so many creditors and because of the glacial pace of the workings of the courts. He has excellent attorneys, who know how to drag out proceedings, so he may well leave office with legal cases hanging over him. What I’m wondering is if he is allowed to maintain a private army of his own attorneys while he is in office.

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          2. Dominick Vila November 19, 2016

            Judging by the way he has been circumventing conflict of interest issues, I would not be surprised if he not only keeps all his attorneys, uses his government legal team to help him in matters unrelated to his Presidential duties, and continues to be involved in his business.
            What applies to everyone else, seems to be irrelevant when it comes to The Donald.

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          3. sigrid28 November 20, 2016

            Your post made me realize that Trump’s conflicts of interest can be discussed over the airwaves the livelong day, but can only be adjudicated once he is in office, if he refused to follow the rules like everyone else who has held the office of president. Then conflicts of interest would be addressed through prescribed channels in the federal government, where the wheels of justice turn slowly–but inexorably. That’s the “Please proceed, Governor” part. Donald Trump is not the only player who knows how to bluff when he’s holding a good hand. Of course, Trump’s efforts to stack the courts and the DOJ may delay taking effective action against his conflicts of interest for quite some time. How long will it take fore the thousands of solid, faithful federal employees, who would have to work under these incompetents and put their life’s work at risk, to join the Dems in disqualifying and otherwise tossing out Trump’s appointees. Of course, there would still be lots of bad apples for Trump to nominate and for the Dems to disqualify. Meanwhile, unless Trump wises up, his blatant conflicts of interest will only get worse and become more apparent. He may never get to the work of the president if his life in office mirrors his life outside of office: a litigious nightmare.

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          4. Dominick Vila November 20, 2016

            I would not be surprised if civil servants in positions of authority decide to retire early. There is always friction between career government workers and political appointees, not to mention incoming Cabinet heads, but considering the large number of controversial appointments that Trump has made thus far, a mass exodus would not be surprising.

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          5. sigrid28 November 20, 2016

            That makes perfect sense. How else could they secure the decent references they will have earned? They would know that they could not expect anything comparable from Trump’s appointees. I’m happy for the retirees, to think they could leave with their futures in tact, but worried for the rest of us, who have benefited from their loyalty and expertise.

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          6. plc97477 November 20, 2016

            The rape victim said she was getting death threats and was frightened enough to back out.

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          7. dpaano November 21, 2016

            That would probably be the ONLY reason she would back out, but I still think she should stick it out and send him to jail!!!

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      2. didactic1 November 18, 2016

        The Pentagon and armed forces are such models of efficiency and success. If most of the desk bound generals are against him, he must be good.

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        1. dpaano November 18, 2016

          And you know this how??? Are you in the military? Do you have an “inside” to the Pentagon? Apparently, you believe all the BS that Trump put out there about how bad our military is doing…..which isn’t the truth! But, again, you were brainwashed, much like his other followers.

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          1. sigrid28 November 19, 2016

            Here’s another point of logic amiss in Trump’s argument: If our military is so inferior, why should Japan and Korea and Germany pay for its services, as Trump insists? If he says they must pay, how bad can it be? On many measures, the U.S. military outranks all others. Here’s just one: Our diplomats have been able to limit the spread of nuclear armaments for almost seventy years because what they say is backed up by this impressive military force.

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        2. Dominick Vila November 19, 2016

          Are you a pacifist, or do you just hate our military?

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          1. didactic1 November 20, 2016

            I like necessary defense; not being a security force for world bankers and corporate assets or preparing for world war against large nations who want to trade with us and borrow money from us. Salafists are enemies, not China, Iran, Russia or the legal gvt of Syria. Let’s put our military assets in Middle East on the Mexican border and in the seas off Mexico and Central America. Israel can pay for it.

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          2. Dominick Vila November 20, 2016

            The USA has not spent trillions of dollars, and built the most formidable military in the world, to turn them into border patrol agents.
            Countries like China are, indeed, more interested in economic than military expansion, but that does not mean we should abandon all our strategic posts worldwide, to keep an eye on neighboring countries that are not a threat to us. I don’t consider Iran a threat to our national security. Much of the turmoil throughout the Middle East, Persian Gulf, and North Africa involves proxy wars between Saudi Arabia and Iran (Sunnis V Shias), that do not represent a direct threat to our security. That does not mean, however, that we should pull out of the region and let Russia dominate that part of the world with absolute impunity.

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          3. didactic1 November 21, 2016

            So the US has wasted trillions. Not an excuse to waste trillions more. US presence abroad is a major irritant that triggers radicalism and rejection of secular Western ideas in places that had embraced them right after WWII. Sixty years of occupation and invasion have worn the USA’s welcome thin. Bring the troops home. Their skills and work ethic can be adapted and enhanced to build a 21 cent infrastructure and network of communities in the US. Now that’s security.

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          4. dpaano November 21, 2016

            Oh, but your buddy, Trump, wants to spend MORE money to beef up our military, but I guess that’s okay with you, right? Sorry, but I think my hard-earned tax money should go somewhere else! I’m tired of seeing our young men and women sent overseas and come back maimed or dead! And, yes, our presence in some areas ARE an irritant, but it’s only an irritant to those that are our enemies….not to the civilians who suffer from ISIS and any other faction that takes civilians and uses them as cover for their cowardly soldiers!

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          5. didactic1 November 21, 2016

            Pentagon is Socialism on steroids.

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          6. Dominick Vila November 21, 2016

            You are not going to get much of an argument from me on that. Unfortunately, that’s not what Trump has in mind. He is talking about massive spending on defense, to make our military great again. Whatever that means.

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          7. dpaano November 22, 2016

            I agree…our military, however, is already pretty good. Unfortunately, more of our young men and women have backed away from joining the armed forces because they see the problems of our vets when they come back maimed or with PTSD. Who would want to go to war if they know that our government isn’t going to help them when they come back? Plus, we’ve lost a goodly portion of our young men and women already…..having served in the military myself, I would be hard pressed to join now if I were a young person, and I joined during the Vietnam War!!!
            What needs to be done with our military is providing better care for our soldiers and sailors, paying them a decent salary so they don’t have to live off of food stamps and welfare, and building up our arsenal with more modern weapons, as well as armor to protect our soldiers and the vehicles they travel in. I don’t foresee Trump has doing any of that! He just wants to build bigger and better planes, bigger and better guns, etc., and doesn’t really care about the individuals that travel in these planes or the soldiers who use these weapons. Until he realizes that these are human beings that are being killed…..nothing will help build up our military strength!

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          8. Dominick Vila November 22, 2016

            He is also planning to make our armed forces great again by increasing the number of troops, ignoring that we have a volunteer military, and that the availability of new technologies and weapons make it unnecessary to have a large force to win battles and wars.

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          9. dpaano November 22, 2016

            But, Dom, he knows more about what’s going on militarily than the generals, remember? Just another one of his bloviating lies!!

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      3. dpaano November 18, 2016

        NONE of Trump’s so-called nominees have a any knowledge of world affairs or anything related to the jobs they’re being chosen for…..after all, look he is the Secretary of the Interior……Sarah Palin….you know “drill, baby, drill!” It’ll be nice to go to the National Parks for vacation and see a scenic view of all the oil drills in the once beautiful valleys! It makes me sick to think about the damage that she’ll do to our country!

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        1. sigrid28 November 18, 2016

          Or she may up and quit. She did that before to Alaska, which a national treasure; luckily, she quit before she had a chance to ruin it. Here is the best scenario: First, Palin goes through a long, drawn-out confirmation process (Democrats, get used to employing these strategically!). Let’s say she finally gets appointed. Because she is so dumb (and lazy with it), she takes months do anything. First, she forgets the things she promised to do and instead goes about visiting areas of the country and ordering studies and trying to decide what to do. Then she decides to quit to go back to being a celebrity. So the long drawn-out process gets to start over again with another “winner” picked by Trump. Democrats can be like an expert team running out the clock against a bunch of “losers”–Did you hear what I called your team, Mr. Trump? LOSERS.

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          1. Dominick Vila November 19, 2016

            You guys are being too harsh on poor Sarah. As Secretary of the Interior she would turn Mount Rushmore golden, and would make The Donald the centerpiece of that document. That is, unless The Donald prefers to replace the Statue of Liberty with a giant statue of himself under neon lights that read The Savior that Made America Great Again. They may even add pews for worshipers to pay homage to their Messiah.

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          2. sigrid28 November 20, 2016

            I say, let’s keep Trump and Palin busy with building gaudy monuments to themselves so they never get their hands on the glories of our national parks. At least monument building is not as likely as other things they might get up to that could destroy one of the country’s aquifer or finish off New Orleans. Another advantage of the Palin monument program is that it would keep those folk in their MAGA caps occupied visiting these pilgrimage sites devoted to their great leader, leaving the rest of us free to get things done and protect our environment and national treasures that can never be replaced.

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          3. dpaano November 21, 2016

            Yes, but unfortunately, those so-called “monuments” will be in our national parks if they have anything to do with it!!!

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          4. sigrid28 November 21, 2016

            My guess is that Trump and his family are more comfortable in cities (like New York) than national parks. He would want a monument where he can see it!

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          5. dpaano November 22, 2016

            You’re probably right….but he might make it so big he can see it from his Trump jet!

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          6. dpaano November 21, 2016

            Don’t let that get out or he may take you up on your ideas! OR, he may replace the Statute of Liberty with a BIG ‘TRUMP’ sign golden and lit up like a Christmas tree!!!

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          7. Dominick Vila November 21, 2016

            🙂

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          8. dpaano November 21, 2016

            Yeah, but this isn’t just the governorship of a state, this is BIG LEAGUE! She won’t quit, trust me! She’ll do her damage and love every minute of it! As for being a “celebrity,” that went by the wayside quite a while ago….she’s no longer at FAUX News either.

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          9. sigrid28 November 21, 2016

            Seriously, though, I do not think Palin would be confirmed even if Trump nominated her. Trump is so thin skinned, I would be surprised if he nominated anyone he did not have the expectation of being confirmed. And if his nominees are not confirmed, what a Twitter storm of personal insults against the Senate that’s going to be!

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          10. dpaano November 22, 2016

            I agree somewhat, but with a Republican Congress, he may get some of these idiots through the process! The most we can hope for is that the Democrats in Congress block these nominations AND the Republicans in Congress that were against Trump’s nomination will also block some of these!

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    2. didactic1 November 18, 2016

      Hopefully he’ll stop the irrational insults Clinton, Obama and Biden hurl at Russia with which they may not realize is not the US’ enemy and is the key power along with Iran with which the US can actually put extreme Sunnis militias and terror groups to an end.

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      1. jmprint November 18, 2016

        Ain’t gonna happen.

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        1. sigrid28 November 18, 2016

          You are right. D1 is a Russian troll.

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        2. didactic1 November 18, 2016

          Gen Flynn was appointed national security advisor today. This nonessential quarrel with Russia is going to stop, the Syrian war’s going to end with the secular Assad in power, and the crazy Sunni fanatics supported by Hillary and Clinton are going to die or make their way to England where they can run for leadership of the Labour Party.

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          1. jmprint November 18, 2016

            Not only “nonessential quarrel with Russia is going to stop” but also what makes this country so wonderful and unique. Thanks for nothing.

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          2. didactic1 November 18, 2016

            Crime in Chicago is unique. As is the LA freeway nightmare.

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          3. yabbed November 18, 2016

            Next think the Russkies hack will be our nuclear codes and then the war is over and we are learning to speak Russian. 🙂

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          4. didactic1 November 18, 2016

            Ok

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          5. sigrid28 November 19, 2016

            Flynn has more than enough to do defending himself from the damage he does his own reputation because of the extremist views he expresses, while at the same time contradicting himself in the next sentence. His expertise is flying off the handle, so it’s hard to figure out what he will do in any situation. Perfect for a president-elect who wants to keep everyone in the dark about his “plans.” The only place that short-sighted bullies like Flynn and Trump used to win was on the playground. I have my doubts about whether they can succeed on the world stage.

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          6. didactic1 November 19, 2016

            He is there. Let’s see what he does or doesn’t do. Susan Rice is a disaster so the bar is low.

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      2. Babs4score+1 November 18, 2016

        So tell me, if Russia had hacked the RNC or any other Republican agency, or interfere with our election, would that be okay with you? I think not. But hey, no problem doing it to the Dems, right?

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        1. didactic1 November 18, 2016

          Hack away ahoy.

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      3. I Am Helpy November 19, 2016

        OK thanks for the treason.

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        1. didactic1 November 19, 2016

          War declared? Who knew?

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          1. I Am Helpy November 19, 2016

            You sold out the country.

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          2. didactic1 November 19, 2016

            That would have been the Bushes.

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          3. I Am Helpy November 19, 2016

            Not as bad as you did. Your joke vanity candidate – the one with the anti-Semite VP – had dinner with Putin the other day.

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          4. didactic1 November 19, 2016

            A phantom?

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          5. I Am Helpy November 19, 2016

            Sorry you couldn’t come up with anything better. You helped Trump win.

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  5. greenlantern1 November 18, 2016

    Our ONLY, convicted, attorney-general was Nixon’s first, John Mitchell!
    Was it in our national interest for Nixon to order Attorney-General Robert Bork to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox?
    To order Rose Mary Woods to erase the WATERGATE TAPES?
    Saigon fell on Kissinger’s watch!
    A worse Secretary of State?
    Was it in our national interest, for BIG OIL to drill, at the US NAVAL OIL RESERVE at TEAPOT DOME?

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    1. The lucky one November 18, 2016

      A worse Secretary of Statethan Kissinger? He does have the highest body count.

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  6. yabbed November 18, 2016

    Anyone who believes Trump is an honest player with sufficient intelligence to be POTUS and good intentions for America is a dupe. This administration is going to be the most corrupt in our history. No one voted for Donald Trump who is not a racist and a bigot and an imbecile. The Kremlin today said that Trump’s vision was in keeping with Putiin’s. That means Trump is unable to think for himself and has accepted Russia as the dominant power in the world. America has entered the downhill slide to losing our status as the world’s most powerful country.

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    1. itsfun November 18, 2016

      Over 60 million racist, bigots, and imbeciles is a whole lot of them. Are the people that voted for Obama then voted for Trump now all racists too? If the incoming administration is half as corrupt as the one we know have, we will have a clean administration.

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      1. yabbed November 18, 2016

        That’s crazy talk. For one thing, Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by the largest margin in history. And, secondly, please name one scandal in the Obama administration. It has been the most scandal free administration in history.

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        1. itsfun November 18, 2016

          She only won by the number of illegal voters in California.
          Benghazi, fast and furious, you can keep your doctor, private meeting in a airplane then the next day announcing no recommendation to charge crooked Hillary, classified emails on a private server. That is just the start of corruption in his administration.

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          1. yabbed November 18, 2016

            Oh, my. You don’t seem to know who is in the Obama administration and who is not. You don’t seem to know that Michigan denied voting rights to 400,000 voters and that Trump won MI by 11,000 votes. I think you should see a doc and get some meds to contain your delusions. 🙂

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          2. latebloomingrandma November 18, 2016

            Mistakes and scandals are 2 different things. Scandals are criminal activity, unless it has to do with sex. No crimes here, as much as cons wanted there to be.

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          3. itsfun November 19, 2016

            Its not scandal-is for a President of the United States to lie to every citizen to get his own way? What would you call fast and furious? Scandals are not criminal activities. Purposely lying is not a mistake, its a lie. In a court lying is a crime.

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        2. Theodora30 November 18, 2016

          Please do not waste your time responding to the crazy talkers.

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          1. yabbed November 18, 2016

            You are so right. They are the mules needing a 2×4 upside the head.

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    2. latebloomingrandma November 18, 2016

      Well, of course. Old Vlad, of the KGB, has The Donald’s number. Just keep telling him how brilliant he is. I expect Alaska will be the first to go. Just so they take Sarah .

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  7. Jon November 18, 2016

    You know that private server Trump has connected with Putin came in handy after Trump and Flynn were given national security briefings. Both take their marching orders from Putin. That must be where Trump learned that it was a 400 pound person on a bed in a basement that was targeting, hacking and leaking DNC and Podesta emails despite 17 government and private security groups determined it was Russia doing the hacking and leaking to rig the election for him. Trump couldn’t believe U.S. experts who refuted and exposed Putin.

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  8. didactic1 November 18, 2016

    Sounds like Hillary Clinton.

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    1. jmprint November 18, 2016

      That’s because you don’t know much.

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      1. didactic1 November 18, 2016

        That’s what Hillary thought of many US voters. Shucks. There go the secret service guards to prop her up after a night of heavy drinking with Huma.

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        1. jmprint November 18, 2016

          No worry’s about what she does with her life, it her business. Those that vote for Trump are fools like you.

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          1. didactic1 November 18, 2016

            I voted for Stein.

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          2. I Am Helpy November 19, 2016

            Hahahaha you voted for the anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist and you have the GALL to say other people don’t know much?

            Wow.

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          3. didactic1 November 19, 2016

            She is a competent physical who has recommended vaccination but wisely urges use of any medication to be tracked.

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          4. I Am Helpy November 19, 2016

            Uh huh. She’s an anti-vaxxer, or – worse – a cynical politician who dog whistles to anti-vaxxers.

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          5. I Am Helpy November 19, 2016

            Yeah, bullcrap. See her own words here:
            https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/07/29/jill-stein-on-vaccines-people-have-real-questions/

            TL;DR – people have “questions”, also MONSAAAAAAANTO (which doesn’t make vaccines or pharmaceuticals of any kind). Exactly the same “argument” she has to back up her anti-GMO scaremongering; hardly surprising, as they are identical purity superstitions.

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    2. I Am Helpy November 19, 2016

      Except for how it’s nothing like that, sure.

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  9. Stuart November 18, 2016

    Flynn: Dr. Strangelove.

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  10. itsfun November 18, 2016

    President elect Trump should reconsider this appointment.

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  11. browninghipower November 18, 2016

    The slow walking coup has just picked up some speed. And all it needs to push into higher gear is the willingness of the Press, weak-kneed DC Dems, and all those folks to be deaf, dumb and blind and believe Denial is indeed a river in Egypt. It may really happen this time.

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