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Fox News’ Megyn Kelly Teaches Erick Erickson Why You Shouldn’t Mess With Working Moms

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Fox News’ Megyn Kelly Teaches Erick Erickson Why You Shouldn’t Mess With Working Moms


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“Studies about gender, family, and the workplace inevitably bring out the Neanderthals in American media. This week has been no exception,” writes The New Republic’s Jonathan Cohn.

After Pew Research released a new study that shows that mothers are increasingly taking and enjoying full-time careers, conservatives began to do what conservatives do: complain about progress.

From this morass of anti-modernity one voice was the loudest and rudest: Erick Erickson of Fox News, the man who once called Supreme Court Justice David Souter a “goat-f*cking child molester.”

On Lou Dobbs’ Fox Business show, Erickson said:

I’m so used to liberals telling conservatives that they’re anti-science. But liberals who defend this and say it is not a bad thing are very anti-science. When you look at biology, when you look at the natural world, the roles of a male and a female in society and in other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it’s not antithesis, or it’s not competing, it’s a complimentary role.

Then he wrote a post on his blog that started by saying his critics had their “panties in a wad.”

This was too much for even Fox News’ Megyn Kelly. On her show Friday, she had Erickson and Dobbs on and demonstrated that while they may feel dominant over women, that’s not necessarily the case.

Kelly taught a similar lesson to Karl Rove on Election Night 2012.


  1. labman57 May 31, 2013

    What these scientifically-illiterate buffoons don’t understand is that science is not merely a body of knowledge accumulated over the centuries, it is also the process through which this knowledge is attained. And so simply declaring that something is true because “I say so” or “Anyone can see that …” cannot be construed as science if that “fact” or “idea” was not the result of a valid, structured, self-critical scientific process.

    Bottom line — If the misogynistic clowns appearing on FOX News were rationally-thinking commentators and regarded women as their equals … then they would not be on the News Corp payroll.

    1. Sand_Cat May 31, 2013

      You can bring yourself to mention “self-critical” in an article about FOX?
      Seriously, well-put and on target.

    2. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

      Great post!

  2. Lynda Groom June 1, 2013

    When that lady takes you to school, you know you’ve really screwed up. She appears to be the bright one on Faux and that is scary.

    1. lana ward June 1, 2013

      Their all bright–and honest, that’s why they’ve been #1 for 13 years. It’s not scary, put your brainwashing aside and try watching: )

      1. Independent1 June 1, 2013

        The only reason Fox is rated #1 is because people who tend to follow the Republican party are simpleton sheep who don’t know any better than to stuff their heads with the lies and distortions spewed by one channel of fake news (people who wouldn’t know the truth if it stared them in the face)!!!!!! Any rational thinking person knows enough to get their news from a variety of sources which is why the multitude of Fox’s competition gets a smattering of votes from across the spectrum. Being #1 in the news is a sign that the people watching your news are nothing more than clueless sheeple!!!!

        1. lana ward June 1, 2013

          Obama is taking free speech away on the internet. It is going to be a crime if anything that offends muslims is put up

          1. Lisa Whitehead June 2, 2013

            Really, Lana, could you please shut the fuck up??? I get so sick of liars, or worse, people who actually believe the bullshit they’re spewing. Where do you idiots get this crap? I really want to know because I’ve looked high and low for even a microscopic bit of evidence to support your dimwitted declaration on this subject and guess what?? Couldn’t find a damn thing about it anywhere. You can imagine my absolute lack of surprise. So once more, where do you idiots get this crap??

          2. Independent1 June 2, 2013

            Lisa, from the same place Faux News gets mose of its entertainment that they call news – THEY MAKE IT UP!!!

          3. lana ward June 2, 2013

            You shut the fuck up until you know what you’re talking about. Obama is going to make it a crime if anything is put up on the internet that offends muslims. Watch Fox if you want to learn something, bitch!!!!!. Oh, and I’ll be waiting for an apology

          4. Lisa W. June 25, 2013

            Lana, please, calm the fuck down and go IMMEDIATELY to your nearest mental health clinic for a thorough mental health check. Make sure you tell them about the person in your head whispering all those conspiracy theories to you. Be prepared for the diagnosis of….Batshit Crazy (It’s a legitimate medical condition, Lana. Look it up!)

          5. lana ward June 25, 2013

            You’re a stupid idiot–watch the news, stupid idiot

      2. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

        If they were all as bright as you think so, princess, they would not have been taken to the woodshed in the first place.

  3. latebloomingrandma June 1, 2013

    All males “discussing” working Moms; reminiscent of all male congressmen discussing female contraception. Neanderthals indeed. We can hear you—–idiots!!! Now THIS would be an appropriate time for those Mama Grizzlies.

    1. Sis Everly June 1, 2013

      Funny how Republican women only get outraged when it “hits home!”

    2. Ford Truck June 1, 2013

      As a Neanderthal, I take offense at you comparing us with these congressmen!!

      1. Allan Richardson June 1, 2013

        I wish you were still doing those insurance commercials! You were a lot smarter than the pig and the two banjo guys!

  4. TheSkalawag929 June 1, 2013

    Erik Erikson got pile driven. Nice job Ms Kelly. Well done.

    1. lana ward June 1, 2013

      You hate Fox!! Don’t you dare start watching!!

      1. TheSkalawag929 June 1, 2013

        So lana ward since I disagree with much of what Faux Noise produces I am not allowed to watch Faux noise?

        Are you therefore speaking for yourself, the libertarian wing of the republican party, the tea party portion of the republican party or the republican party in general when you restrict me from exercising my Ninth Amendment Rights under the Constitution of the United States.

        1. WhutHeSaid June 1, 2013

          I think she’s speaking on behalf of her master (Satan).

          1. TheSkalawag929 June 1, 2013


        2. lana ward June 1, 2013

          Obama is going to make it a crime to offend muslims on the internet–so there goes your free speech

          1. TheSkalawag929 June 2, 2013

            Are you really stupid enough to believe that?

          2. lana ward June 2, 2013

            Are you really stupid enough not to believe that

  5. WhutHeSaid June 1, 2013

    Nothing irritates right-wing zealots more than facts, and having them served up by those they view as ‘inferior’ really winds them up and makes them spin.

    I’m not a great fan of Megyn Kelly, but I have to wonder how many times she woke up wondering exactly how she came to be associated with so many Neanderthal boobs. In this situation she was on-target, clearly demonstrating why Neanderthals became extinct in the first place. Being a Republican woman in this day and age must be perpetually confusing. Citing Barack Obama himself as an example of how right-wing bigot theories always get disproven was an especially nice touch.

    1. lana ward June 1, 2013

      Being a Republican woman is a great thing. You should hear her when she gets going on the dems –fair and balanced, #1 for 13 years

      1. WhutHeSaid June 1, 2013

        Yeah, that’s wonderful except for the fact that it was Democrats that fought for her right to compete with men for her job. Republican men would force her to stay home if they could.

        1. lana ward June 1, 2013

          Has your MSM told its viewers that Obama is going to make it a crime to offend muslims online????? Fox has.!!!! Bye, bye free speech, hello LOTS of people arrested

          1. WhutHeSaid June 1, 2013

            Fox News should get into the toilet paper business. They could make money and be appropriate and useful at the same time.

          2. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

            Do you really think ANYTHING could make them appropriate and useful?

          3. WhutHeSaid June 1, 2013

            Hmmm…you DO have a point. Using them to wipe one’s ass does seem to offer a certain level of utility, but I suppose even an asshole might have a negative reaction (everyone else does).

          4. lana ward June 1, 2013

            I haven’t heard that dem talking point before, is it new

          5. WhutHeSaid June 2, 2013

            I’m curious: Have you ever accidentally told a truth?

          6. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

            Yeah, Fox would. Where is the legislation at this current moment, or is this going to be an executive decree?

        2. lana ward June 1, 2013

          Wealth of most Americans down 55% under Obama

          1. WhutHeSaid June 1, 2013

            Yet another ridiculous lie. Aside from being vile and despicable bigots, the Tea Party people are world-class liars. Satan must be making extra room for all of the Tea Bigots. I can just imagine how they will squeal when he starts giving them their rewards for a lifetime of evil deeds.

            I’m glad that Satan will have a use for Tea Bigots, because the Lord knows they are utterly useless here on Earth. Everybody hates the Tea Bigots — even other Tea Bigots.

          2. lana ward June 1, 2013

            Do with it what you want( hint, hint )

          3. Independent1 June 1, 2013

            Blatant Lie. The wealth of Americans has recovered by over 4 trillion dollars since Obama took over the Presidency. The GDP is also up over a trillion, which is why America’s debt to GDP ratio has fallen below 70% while virtually every other industrialized country on the planet similar to America operates with a debt to GDP of over 80% – Canada’s is over 87% and Japan’s is around 100%. Spouting lies doesn’t become you Lana!!!!!!!!

          4. lana ward June 1, 2013

            Do with it what you want, I really don’t care

          5. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

            Where did you get that little gem? I am sure you didn’t find any reputable source like the GAO or PBS ascribing to that bomb. And if you did, I am absolutely it was a complete misinterpretation on your part. You have such a talent for reading whatever you want into whatever you read.

          6. lana ward June 1, 2013

            Do with it want you want, I really don’t care

      2. BillP June 1, 2013

        Sure it is Lana I understand the Republican men let you out of the kitchen every once in a while so that you can clean the house.

      3. ralphkr June 1, 2013

        Hmm, I suppose that is why those who watch FUBAR News know less about what is going on than those who completely ignore ALL forms of media.

        1. lana ward June 1, 2013

          You keep believing that lie, it won’t get you anywhere

        2. lana ward June 1, 2013

          Keep believing that lie, It ‘s not getting you anything but less news

          1. ralphkr June 1, 2013

            Know, lana, not watching FUBAR News and watching BBC, CBC, etc. instead gets me MORE news and LESS fantasy.

          2. lana ward June 1, 2013

            It gets you less of what is true in politics, they just can’t bring themselves to report anything bad but true about this dictator in the WH. They never have. WHY do you think Obama HATES Fox News so much????

          3. ralphkr June 1, 2013

            You have made it obvious, lana, that you have never watched anything but FUBAR News. I can not think of any political figure that BBC and/or CBC have not raked over the coals. The big difference between them and FUBAR is that BBC/CBC use actual honest to God facts while FUBAR depends upon fantasy and the fevered imaginations of Conservative morons.

          4. lana ward June 1, 2013

            You like talking to yourself?? That’s what you’re doing

          5. ralphkr June 2, 2013

            Actually, lana, when I am posting to you I realize that I am speaking to someone with the mentality and reasoning power a somewhat mentally challenged two year old who believes in unicorns and that is close to the equivalence of conversing to a non-being.

          6. lana ward June 2, 2013

            I’m mentally challenged because the news I get is correct. Makes sense

          7. ralphkr June 2, 2013

            What you get from FUBAR News is only correct in the imagination of those who are reality challenged. Yep, that makes sense. I have just realized that conversing with you, lana, is about on par with conversing with one of my 2 or 3 year old great-granddaughters except for the fact that they have a much better grasp of the real world than you have.

          8. lana ward June 2, 2013

            Now you sound like a sore loser. Quit acting like an idiot. Get your news from where you want, I really don’t care. I know what is going on , and I’m happy with that so I’ll let you know when I hear something new. Something your news source won’t report. Accept it or not, that’s up to you. Good night

          9. WhutHeSaid June 2, 2013

            You really shouldn’t get snarky with anyone whose avatar resembles Santa Claus, never mind that he clearly has points that you can’t dispute. Perhaps you don’t worry because you instead believe in Satan Claus.

            Studies have shown that Fox News viewers are less well-informed than people who don’t watch news at all. Your bubble of willful ignorance is one of the main reasons that Republicans (and vile Tea Bigots) lose elections and Obama is your leader.

          10. lana ward June 2, 2013

            Why do think it is that the left loons tell you not to watch Fox News?? Because you will learn what they try so hard to hide from you. I thought you were smart, ha!!!

          11. WhutHeSaid June 3, 2013

            I’m not sure that you can call being exposed to fallacies and false propaganda ‘learning’. Also, I wonder how you can tell if somebody is ‘smart’.

            If Bigot News (Fox) is popular, it just goes to show you how many despicable and/or just plain ignorant people there are in this country. It’s hardly surprising, because bigots and slack-jawed rednecks all watch the same channel that caters to ignorance and bigotry, while everyone else is divided among the real news programs.

          12. lana ward June 3, 2013

            MSM is racist. So that means you’re a racist. Everything that spews out of their yaps, they accuse someone of being a racist. Something wrong with you, letting racists tell you what to and what not to watch+ + + +

          13. lana ward June 3, 2013

            OHitler leads the MSM around by the rings in their noses LOL. Can’t, won’t do their jobs and report!!! He can’t do that with Fox, they report stories on him and he hates them for it. They do their jobs just as reporters are suppose to do, and they do a damn good job of it. #1 for 13 years, so Ohitler plays the stalker that he is, and has the FBI track them. LOL. Backfire, it has just made more people watch LOL LOL

          14. Dana Es June 18, 2013

            I thought she was going to bed.

        3. lana ward June 1, 2013

          The IRS ok’ed Obamas’ half brother Abongo Malik Obama in 30 days, even tho he has ties with terrorists, but 100s of Tea Party groups have been waiting over 3 years for approval. Have you heard this from your MSM??

          1. ralphkr June 1, 2013

            Aah, lana, that is a prime example of fantasy.

          2. lana ward June 1, 2013

            Aah, ralphy, that’s an example of what MSM won’t tell you

          3. ralphkr June 1, 2013

            Probably because MSM has a tendency to go with facts instead of fantasy which is diametrically opposite of FUBAR News.

          4. lana ward June 1, 2013

            MSM won’t report anything that goes against their agenda or their leader, they never have– that’s why more and more people are turning to Fox. So you lose

          5. ralphkr June 2, 2013

            Not really, lana, because I have seen some reports in favor of Obama which proves than the MSM does report things that goes against the grain of their agenda which is to treat Republicans as believable sources instead of rumor mongers. After all the MSM is almost all owned and run by Republicans…of course, the TEA Party loonies consider 98% of the Republicans as flaming leftists because you loonies are so far out to the right and think that everyone who don’t believe your fantasies are controlled by Stalin.

          6. tdm3624 June 3, 2013

            The best approach is to read a variety of news sources, left, right, and moderate, and occasionally foreign.

  6. mah101 June 1, 2013

    Some of these morons have never learned the first, most important, rule:

    When you find yourself in a hole, the first thing you need to do is stop digging.

    These guys just call for more shovels

    1. lana ward June 1, 2013

      You should hear her when she gets going on the dems!!!! There already in a hole before they open their yaps

  7. Landsende June 1, 2013

    After watching her smack down of Karl Rove on election night and now her smack down of Erick Ericson and Lou Dobbs it’s apparent she is the only intelligent person on Faux News. Hope she keeps showing up these Neanderthals for the buffoons they are.

    1. lana ward June 1, 2013

      You should hear her when she gets going on the dems WOW!!! Fair and balanced—Fox News, #1 for 13 years : ))

      1. BillP June 1, 2013

        #1 doesn’t mean it’s the best or even most accurate new program just the most popular.

        1. lana ward June 1, 2013

          People want truth, that’s why they watch. Has your MSM told its viewers that Obama is going to make it a crime to offend muslims while on the internet??? So much for free speech. Watch Fox, you’ll learn something

          1. ralphkr June 1, 2013

            Highly unlikely that anyone shall learn anything of value in dealing with the real world from FUBAR News.

          2. Independent1 June 1, 2013

            Ralph, you may not know just how right you are; A study done shows that viewers of Fox News actually know less about the news than people who don’t watch any news outlets. Here’s the study:

            From Huffington Post

            Another study has concluded that people who only watch Fox News are less informed than all other news consumers.

            Researchers at Fairleigh Dickinson University updated a study they had conducted in late 2011. That study only sampled respondents from New Jersey, where the university is located. This time, the researchers conducted a nationwide poll.

            The poll asked questions about international news (Iran, Egypt, Syria and Greece were included) and domestic affairs (Republican primaries, Congress, unemployment and the Keystone XL pipeline.)

            The pollsters found that people were usually able to answer 1.8 out of 4 questions on foreign news, and 1.6 of 5 questions on domestic news, and that people who don’t watch any news were able to get 1.22 of the questions on domestic policy right.

            As the study explained, though, people who watched only Fox News fared worse:

            The largest effect is that of Fox News: all else being equal, someone who watched only Fox News would be expected to answer just 1.04 domestic questions correctly — a figure which is significantly worse than if they had reported watching no media at all. On the other hand, if they listened only to NPR, they would be expected to answer 1.51 questions correctly; viewers of Sunday morning talk shows fare similarly well. And people watching only “The Daily Show With Jon Stewart” could answer about 1.42 questions correctly.

            Other networks also did badly in some sections; MSNBC viewers and Fox News viewers both fared worse in answering international questions than people who watched no news.

          3. ralphkr June 1, 2013

            Certainly a pity that they did not poll those of us who follow the news on BBC & CBC.

          4. lana ward June 1, 2013

            Has your MSM told its viewers that Obama has now forced his FBIs Terrorism Task Force on pro- life Pregnancy Centers?? So now Obama is gathering intelligence on the Pro-Life Movement too!!! Eric Holder has a vested interest in prosecuting the Pro-Life Movement since his wife and sister in law rented facilities to Tyrone Cecil Malloy, a Georgia abortionist accused of malpractice, Medicaid fraud and causing a patients’ death

          5. ralphkr June 1, 2013

            Gee, lana, Tyrone Cecil Malloy sounds like a shoo-in for Governor of Florida since the current one had the largest fine ever for defrauding Medicare-Medicaid.

          6. lana ward June 1, 2013

            Gee, Ralphy your MSM talked about that story, have they told you about this one?????

          7. ralphkr June 1, 2013

            Actually, lana, I am all for the so-called “pro-life” outfits being investigated and feel that it is long overdue because of all the fraudulent stories they spread and their Nazi like activities.

          8. lana ward June 1, 2013

            The Pro Life Centers are being investigated because Obama Hates life. Thank God conservatives go under cover and are investigating and exposing murder clinics because Obama sure won’t. He loves death of innocence. WHY isn’t the MSM reporting what the FBI is doing???

          9. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

            Are we on a continuous replay? I keep scrolling down the page, and keep seeing the same posts. You must have just learned how to cut and paste.

          10. lana ward June 1, 2013

            We don’t need free speech anyway

          11. RobertCHastings June 2, 2013

            Typical response when there is no other route to take. Let’s observe freedom of speech, until it gets in the way. Gee, you REALLY ARE a Republican.

          12. lana ward June 2, 2013

            Why was the IRS Chief summoned to the WH 157 times. To discuss targeting Tea Party groups and conservatives. 3 years and they are still waiting on the IRS. Obamas’ half brother, Abongo Malik Obama has ties with terrorists and the IRS cleared him in 30 days

          13. BillP June 3, 2013

            Please Lana enlighten me as to how this is going to be implemented. I could be anywhere in the world and post a comment on any website. How would the US gov’t prosecute someone in Japan or any other country. Also I think it’s tome for you to start taking your meds again.

        2. Independent1 June 1, 2013

          Bill, being #1 in the news doesn’t really mean Fox is the most “popular”; it only proves that fox viewers are such mindless sheeple that they aren’t smart enough to know they need to get balanced news coverage by watching other news outlets.

      2. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

        Haven’t we seen this post before? What is this, groundhog day or something. I fear that, regardless of how many times you repeat, you will never get it right. At least Bill Murray did, eventually.

        1. lana ward June 1, 2013

          Poor thing

  8. FT66 June 1, 2013

    Lou Dobbs and Sean Hannity are the example of what is wrong with Fox News. How lucky Fox News is, at least they have Megyn Kelly whose brain is sharper than the men. Don’t these men feel ashamed to see they are not appreciated like Megyn Kelly is? and still they are a different gender.

    1. lana ward June 1, 2013

      You should hear her when she gets going on the dems!!!—fair and balanced, FOX NEWS, #1 for 13 years

  9. Allan Richardson June 1, 2013

    After all the evidence that conservative ideology is bad for women, EVEN moderately wealthy women, I am surprised that she is still in the Faux Noise crowd. That environment reminds me of the town of Stepford! Oh, yeah, that explains it!

  10. jimmike June 1, 2013

    While I am not a huge fan of any of these Right Wing Rant Warrior bomb throwers, I agree with Ms. Kelly with extreme prejudice and I enjoyed and congratulate her for the fiery defense of the working Mothers of our country. Mr. Erickson’s “beg-offs” and conspiracy innuendos were poor fodder against her fact based rebuttals.

  11. lana ward June 1, 2013

    She is on at 1, weekdays, in case you’re interested : ))

  12. JDavidS June 1, 2013

    Nice to see. Megyn just bit those knuckle-draggers on the ass in a hard way… Nice job, Megyn. Now, just come away from the dark side…

  13. Nungman June 1, 2013

    Sorry, ladies. Man poses and God disposes. Nature will always have the last word.
    In Sweden, complete equality of the sexes–no distinctions whatsoever–was believed to be desirable and inevitable.
    The upshot? Look at your CNN site, read your newspapers today and over the last week. Sweden’s “progressive” social policies produced perhaps the lowest birth rate in Europe. It also, not coincidentally, was the first country to pass a law on rape within the marriage.
    Sweden ran out of young men early on and even shoehorning women in jobs like test pilot or merchant sailor could not fill the gap. Immigration was the only answer and with now fifteen percent of Swedes being foreign-born, it has proven no answer at all.

    1. metrognome3830 June 1, 2013

      What would Megyn Kelly have to say about your complaint that Sweden passed a law on rape within the marriage? I think I would like to hear her reply. I could be mistaken about the meaning of your comment, but it sounds like you are attributing the low birth rate to a law against rape within the marriage. C’mon ladies, are you going to let Nungman get by with that?

      1. Nungman June 1, 2013

        Sweden has the highest number of reported rapes in Europe–second highest in the world. Are Swedish men all sex-crazed brutes? Instead of Megyn Kelly, why not ask Julian Assange about the law on sexual offenses in Sweden.
        Sweden’s low birth rate has many causes. Since the immigrant riots there, folks might have to start working on solutions not highly pc.

        1. metrognome3830 June 1, 2013

          But you haven’t said what your position is on laws against rape in marriage or outside of marriage for that matter. It’s not clear whether or not you oppose rape or approve of it in order to increase the birth rate. Since Julian Assange had to hide out in another country to escape prosecution for rape, is he somehow uniquely qualified to comment about the laws on sexual offenses in Sweden? If Sweden has the highest number of reported rapes in Europe, is it because of restrictive laws? Or is it because Swedish men still haven’t quite gotten on to the fact that women aren’t just a source of sexual gratification for them? Just a few questions I would like your answers to. If I want Julian Assange’s answers, I will ask him.

          1. Nungman June 1, 2013

            metronome, your questions answer themselves.
            Of COURSE it’s the laws, which are downright misanthropic ever since 2005 when the definition of rape was wildly enlarged to include anything from looking at a woman sideways to? Julian Assange is well qualified to comment on these laws but, regrettably, his case is not unique.
            Striking down a good many of these laws might result in a higher birth rate among native born Swedes but that would be a minor part of the solution.

          2. metrognome3830 June 1, 2013

            Looking at a woman sideways is rape? Where? I think one would have to be doing more than looking sideways. If that were the law I would have been arrested lots of times. Sorry my friend, but I don’t believe in rape as a solution to low birth rates. Here’s a friendly tip. Don’t try to use that as an excuse if, God forbid, you get charged with rape.

          3. Nungman June 5, 2013

            Thanks for the legal advice, metro. I’ll be sure to keep it in mind!
            From time immemorial raping one’s spouse was an impossibility by law. Like same-sex marriage, such an abominable law could be shoved through by a few ideological or corrupted State legislators but getting juries to convict is another matter.
            Have you another explanation for the very high number of reported rapes in Sweden–a seemingly advanced country politically, technologically, socially?

          4. metrognome3830 June 5, 2013

            I have no facts to support it, but I would explain the high number of reported rapes in Sweden, the USA, the military, as due to the fact that women have come to feel more comfortable reporting rapes due to the fact that the courts have finally come to realize that it is the law. Forcing anyone to have sex — man or woman — is against the law in most civilized societies and the law has finally come to that realization. There are still some backward segments of society and adherents of backward religions that still hold to the idea that if they are married they have the right to sex any time they desire. Force constitutes rape.

          5. Nungman June 14, 2013

            I agree. Violence against another is assault and that never has been privileged–outside a prize ring.

            So what is “force”? Is an embrace “force”? Are sexual relations possible without physical contact? How, then can a married man be sure he won’t be accused of rape if there later are problems in the marriage? One woman divorce lawyer sarcastically suggested a little note beside the bed, presumably giving written permission for sex, or something she called a foreplay checklist.

            Any ideas on that from your side?

          6. metrognome3830 June 15, 2013

            It’s real simple Nungman. If the other person says no that means stop. Asking “Is an embrace force?” Only if the other party doesn’t welcome the embrace. If they allow an embrace, it does not automatically follow that they welcome sexual intercourse. Of course you can’t have sexual relations without physical contact but you do need mutual consent. If a woman later accuses you of rape, then you are probably in trouble. But if you force her to have sex you’re are definitely guilty of rape whether you are married to her or if it’s just a date. If you see a foreplay checklist beside the bed, you would probably be wise to use it. You definitely have no right to unlimited sex whenever you want it, which seems to be your premise. I can’t believe, if you are a mature or even somewhat immature man, you wouldn’t already know the rules. A little self-control might be something you would want to consider.

          7. Nungman June 15, 2013

            Sounds like you need to go out on a few dates, metronome, with a person of the opposite sex. You might learn that the heart and the flesh don’t always conform to theory.

            “Consent” is a state of mind. It’s what someone is thinking. In Sweden men must learn the art of mind reading or they’ll be hauled before the bar of justice..

          8. metrognome3830 June 15, 2013

            You are one screwed up individual Nungman. Go out on a few dates? You have decided that because I disapprove of rape I have never dated anyone of the opposite sex. You are not only screwed up, you are dangerous. I’m 74 years old and I have had more than a few dates. I have five children and not one was the product or rape. Consent is a state of mind! Really, where did you ever come up with such a line of BS. Is that your best pickup line? What’s the matter, did “What’s your sign?” quit working for you?

          9. Nungman June 16, 2013

            Now, Metronome, why should a simple, definitional statement rouse you to such fury? That consent is in the mind is not only true. It is self-evident.

            Certainly you lack the wisdom or emotional control one would expect of someone who has lived 74 years. I figure around 14 years.

            Are these children natural children? Adopted? Or imaginary? What are the ages and sexes of these FIVE children you have?

            On the internet anyone can be anything they want to be. That is both wonderful and frightening.

          10. metrognome3830 June 16, 2013

            Who writes these posts for you Nungman. Surely you do not possess the intellectual wherewithal to write them yourself. You call a statement like “consent is a state of mind” definitional? We were not talking about your state of mind. We are talking about the other person’s state of mind. I’m sure we all know by now what your state of mind is. Another person’s state of mind is something you don’t know and have no control over nor any right to interpret for them.
            You want me to list the names, ages and sexes of my children? What kind of jackass are you? After reading your posts I would never give you any information about my family. In fact, since I judge you to be a hopeless Neanderthal, I really see no compelling reason to continue communicating with you. Lots of luck using “consent is a state of mind” in court if you’re ever accused of rape.

          11. Nungman June 16, 2013

            As I thought, another internet illusionist. “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. I am the great Oz!”, isn’t it?

            Who asked for NAMES? I did not. I would not. Now I know these “children” are a fiction. The only child is you.

            It’s you who has a distinct deficit in the reasoning department. Or else you don’t know the plain meaning of the word “consent”.

            Indeed, it is consent on the part of the victim/ACCUSER that’s become the central issue–turning the presumption of innocence on its head. [How could anyone be concerned with consent on the part of the perpetrator of any felony crime, including rape?]

          12. metrognome3830 June 17, 2013

            No, the only fiction writer here is you. Unfortunately, I believe you have started to believe your own fiction. I do think your mommy should curtail your computer privileges. Adios, dipshit!

          13. Nungman June 17, 2013

            I would remark that you seem happy as a faggot in jail–except you probably are a faggot in jail. That’s how you know all about folks getting computer privileges curtailed.

            Is that also where you developed this obsession with rape? Well, hey, look on the bright side. Depending what State you got sentenced in you might be able to marry your prison **amour**.

        2. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

          The riots over there are just a presage of events to come. We are facing many of the same pressures here that Sweden is facing, such as a burgeoning immigrant population. Except in our case, the minorities of today will constitute a majority in just a few years. The US, by the way, is the only industrialized wealthy country with a positive population growth.

          1. Nungman June 1, 2013

            Population growth in the USA is entirely attributable to immigration. Our fertility rate is as low as Italy’s.
            I am not proposing discriminatory laws for Sweden though I expect they are taking a hard look at their policies on the granting of asylum and immigration in general. You can expect to see legislation along the lines of Denmark’s highly restrictive Nationalities Law.
            The solution is to do something for families, for women who want to live traditionally and aren’t the type to march and demonstrate in the street.

          2. RobertCHastings June 2, 2013

            Which is exactly where we are heading, not that it is where we SHOULD be heading. Sweden is facing some of the same issues regarding immigrants that we are, including the reactionary far right rioting and committing acts of violence against “others”.

  14. howa4x June 1, 2013

    Finally a republican woman standing up to a red stator. She even stated that there is nothing wrong with gay parents or working women raising children. This is a 1st on Fox after years of the emotionally immune Ann Coulter. I wonder what Roger Aelis said after the show?

    1. RobertCHastings June 1, 2013

      Ailes probably had a heart attack. Oh, wah, wah, wah.

      1. howa4x June 2, 2013

        or left a load in his undies

        1. RobertCHastings June 2, 2013

          Which would probably be a big turnon for Ann Coulter.

  15. ThomasBonsell June 1, 2013

    The article started with, “Studies about gender, family, and the workplace inevitably bring out the Neanderthals in American media. This week has been no exception,” writes The New Republic’s Jonathan Cohn.

    There have been numerous reports recently stating that geneticists have discovered Neanderthal DNA present in modern man’s genetic makeup.

    That explains the presence of conservatives in an otherwise normal human race.

    1. Independent1 June 1, 2013

      I knew there had to be an explanation for why some humans seem slow witted like conservatives, overly cautious and suspicious, inclined to believe fantasies and conspiracy theories, with a propensity for telling lies and fairytales – it’s been that caveman instinct within them all along. Who would have thunk it.

  16. ralphkr June 1, 2013

    I have listened to these scientific geniuses pontificating that children whose mother is home nurturing them turn out best and those children with a stay at home nurturing father turn out well and I have come to the only possible scientific conclusion. If you want children to be well adjusted and have the very best of futures both the mother and father MUST stay home to nurture them while living high on the hog on welfare (Ha! That’ll be the day.)

  17. FredAppell June 1, 2013

    “It’s a war on women Juan”. Yeah it sure is alright, and America knows who is waging it.
    That video just told every American women that they would be happiest playing domestic goddess all day every single day. The more desperate they become, the more they show their true colors.

  18. Lisa Whitehead June 2, 2013

    Finally!! A clip that didn’t make me want to smack the dog piss out of Megyn Kelly….who would’ve thunk it?

  19. northwind1 June 2, 2013

    connecting the dots with respect to “dominance” for Megyn Kelly and her fellow Republicans…

    “Republican congresswoman Marsha Blackburn said on Sunday that women ‘don’t want’ equal pay laws.”

    -Huffington Post

    Marsha Blackburn’s Tennessee’s 7th congressional district:

    The district’s configuration from 1983 to 2013 occurred when Tennessee gained a district as a result of the 1980 Census. At that time, large portions of the old 6th District were shifted to the 4th and 9th districts, and the remaining territory of the old 6th was renumbered the 7th. Prior to the reapportionment that resulted from the 2000 Census, the district’s boundaries generally coincided with county lines, but in Middle Tennessee, the 7th district’s current geography resembled a gerrymander. At some points in the Middle Tennessee portion of the district, it was only two miles wide–about the width of a highway lane.


    “Some chief executives of the largest Nashville-area publicly traded companies saw big bumps in compensation packages last year, thanks to special dividends, cash bonuses and awards of restricted stock and stock options.

    Richard Bracken, CEO of the nation’s largest for-profit hospital chain, HCA Holdings Inc., led the pack with his pay package, which increased more than 700 percent to $46 million over 2011. ”

    -The Tennessyan, most popular story June 2 2013


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