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Here’s One Easy Way For Republicans To Reduce Government Dependency

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Here’s One Easy Way For Republicans To Reduce Government Dependency

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Republican Senate candidates have never settled on a unifying theme throughout the 2014 campaign, but they all generally agree on one point: Americans should be less dependent on the federal government.

In a recently unearthed recording from 2013, Iowa state senator Joni Ernst illustrated this position in unusually stark terms.

“What we have to do a better job of is educating not only Iowans, but the American people that they can be self-sufficient. They don’t have to rely on the government to be the do-all, end-all for everything they need and desire, and that’s what we have fostered, is really a generation of people that rely on the government to provide absolutely everything for them,” Ernst explained.

“It’s exponentially harder to remove people once they’ve already been on those programs,” she later added, before again lamenting that “we rely on government for absolutely everything.”

Ernst is hardly alone in her conviction that we must sharply cut the social safety net before it becomes “a hammock that lulls able-bodied people to lives of dependency and complacency,” as Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) infamously warned.

But an Economic Policy Institute report released last week contains good news for the GOP. There’s an easy way to dramatically reduce Americans’ dependence on the social safety net, while saving billions in the process: raising the minimum wage.

The report, authored by EPI economic analyst David Cooper, finds that boosting the federal minimum wage to $10.10 per hour — the level proposed by the Democratic-backed Fair Minimum Wage Act — would allow 1.7 million American workers to stop relying on public assistance programs such as Medicaid, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (also known as food stamps), or the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families program (also known as welfare), among others. That would reduce the amount the government spends on safety net programs by at least $7.6 billion per year. Additionally, safety net programs would save 24 cents for every additional dollar in wages paid to workers affected by the minimum wage hike.

Minimum Wage infographic

In addition to easing the burden on the safety net, a $10.10 minimum wage would lift millions out of poverty, and would be unlikely to hurt job growth (according to academic studies and the informed opinions of hundreds of economists). Plus, in addition to being good policy, raising the minimum wage would also be very good politics. So Ernst must be all for it, right?

Wrong. The Iowa Republican not only opposes raising the federal minimum wage, but actually supports eliminating it altogether. Instead of raising workers’ wages to levels where they no longer need government assistance to get by, she’d prefer to slash the safety net like the hogs she castrated as a girl. Most (though not all) of her fellow Republicans agree.

So given that the GOP is unlikely to let a minimum-wage hike pass through Congress, and that President Obama is unlikely to sign a budget that shrinks government assistance programs to a size where Grover Norquist can drown them, for the time being, Americans will have to live with the unsatisfying status quo.

Photo: Annette Bernhardt via Flickr

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Henry Decker

Henry Decker was formerly the Managing Editor of The National Memo. He is currently an Online Associate at MRCampaigns.

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  1. Dominick Vila October 21, 2014

    The GOP opposes a lot more than raising the minimum wage. The centerpiece of Paul Ryan’s economic “plan” two years ago was dismantling MEDICARE and replacing it with a voucher program to save billions of dollars…at the expense of senior citizens who could not afford the cost of a voucher program. They have fought Social Security since it was created, and most Red states opposed the MEDICAID expansion and, by default, the Affordable Care Act in favor of Emergency Room freebies.
    Their argument against raising the minimum wage does not make sense. Increasing disposable income translates to higher spending, a key component for a robust economic recovery, which would reduce Federal government outlays since dependence of welfare would decrease dramatically.
    One of their arguments against the ACA is the fact that it is too expensive and that private – for profit – insurance are too high compared to what they have been paying. A true statement when you consider the number of people in RED states that depend on welfare and that use ER services. The cynicism of a party that champions personal responsibility and is against paying for the services we need and get is inescapable.
    Unfortunately, there are many among us who don’t understand the dichotomy between their rhetoric and the reality of their actions. Many of those who plan to vote RED this election are seniors who depend on SS and MEDICARE, many are people who would be better off joining an ACA exchange and getting affordable and comprehensive health insurance, and many of them would benefit from a higher minimum wage. So, why do they vote the way they plan? There are many reasons. Some plan to do it because they hate President Obama and what he represents to them. Others plan to do it because of ideology, and others because of supine ignorance. The latter are more likely to react to what Rush or FOX “News” say than take a few minutes to learn the facts.
    For them, accomplishments such as overcoming the economic chaos that President Obama inherited in January 2009, reducing deficits by 2/3, creating more jobs in 5.8 years than Bush I and II combined, enforcing greater Wall Street oversight to minimize the probability of another Great Recession, deporting more illegal immigrants than any previous president, eliminating the draconian pre-existing condition clause and the insurance “caps”, allowing dependent children to stay in their parent’s insurance until age 26, fighting for equality, protecting what Reagan referred to as the safety net, eliminating Osama bin Laden, capturing al-Libby, ending the unfunded crusade in Iraq and reducing our presence in Afghanistan, and so many other domestic and foreign policy achievements, means absolutely nothing to those who are convinced the Ebola pandemic that caused the death of a Liberian immigrant at a Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas was the work of President Obama. Honestly, there is little that can be done to change the opinions and decisions of those consumed by fear of change, fear of walking out of their houses with a concealed weapon, fear of our government – which vacillates between being an instrument of a mythical Empire to being a despotic and tyrannical regime determined to exterminate innocent Republicans. Maybe some day, in the very distant future, they will see the light, but I doubt it.

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  2. bobnstuff October 21, 2014

    As long as the republicans believe in supply side economics nothing will change. The Tea Party takes it to a new level. They like to believe in myths, Creationism, America being founded as a Christian nation and the rich as job creators.

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    1. joe schmo October 21, 2014

      …and….your point, America was successful back then wasn’t it? What is it now? Why don’t we get along….?

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      1. bobnstuff October 21, 2014

        Because it’s a myth. The economy is market driven, demand driven. In a business you hire to fill a need not because you have money. Even large companies use demand to set payroll and expand. Reagan had nothing to do with how I ran my business back then, if anything the tight money made it harder. It’s not the rich that start business’s it’s the middle class with a dream. 1 in 4 people want to own a business.

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        1. Independent1 October 21, 2014

          You’re so right!! Reagan appeared to be successful when everything he did should have tanked our economy for one reason: he was president at a time when a clown could have been president and our economy would have succeeded. Reagan was president during the computer boom. Apple had come out with it’s Apple Lisa, which started people into thinking about computerization, and IBM, the mainframe behmoth at the time, decided to enter the computer market just as Reagan was taking office.

          So Reagan was president at a time when IBM first came out with the PC to compete against apple, and at a time when numerous other companies joined the fray in making PC clones. Numerous computer companies were formed and the computer revolution spurred the economy starting partway through Reagan’s 1st term and was in high gear during his 2nd term.

          Conservatives are giving Reagan, who had developing Alzheimer’s far too much credit for the
          stock market performance and everything else beneficial to our economy that occurred during his 8 years in office. Herbert Hoover could have been president during those 8 years and the same results would have happened because the computer revolution was driving Americans to start new companies and computerize all their business activities; something even Reagan’s ineptitude couldn’t quash.

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          1. bobnstuff October 21, 2014

            The reason is that the republicans give for not raising minimum wage is that it would raise prices. Walmart would have to raise prices 1%. Having spent 35 years in business management you understand P&L, something the right wing seems not to.

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          2. Independent1 October 21, 2014

            Yeah! Fighting the minimum wage is more about keeping the peons slaving in poverty than it has anything to do with profits. Elizabeth Warren during a Senatorial committee session, proved that McDonald’s could afford to raise the base wage of their employees to $10.10 by increasing the price of ONE combo meal from $7.15 to $7.19. They apparently have a combo meal that’s so popular, that just by adding 4 cents to that meal, McDonald’s could cover that increase.

            It’s pretty clear that with Walmart selling tens of thousands of products, they could do the same thing by simply adding a few cents to the price of a selected number of their big selling products. Customers wouldn’t even notice the difference.

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          3. joe schmo October 22, 2014

            ….and I just heard McDonald’s is in a slump….good luck on that one.

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          4. bobnstuff October 22, 2014

            You pay minimum wage you get minimum people who give minimum work and the customers go away.

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        2. joe schmo October 22, 2014

          Duh….like I didn’t know that. My Dad is the perfect example of that. Poor immigrant, WHO WANTED TO BE AMERICAN (unlike many new immigrants nowadays who aren’t even legal) and lived the American Dream.

          High taxes and horrible regulations make running a business an impossibility.

          To see why read this:

          http://nikitas3.com/1083/why-are-so-many-rich-people-liberals/

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          1. bobnstuff October 22, 2014

            This is a great time to start a business, cheep money and a growing economy. Most government regulations are for the big kids and don’t even apply if you have under 50 employees. I have started four business’s myself and run a few more start-ups. I have also helped a number of others get started. Right now I am working with a landscaper as an adviser, he bought his first company truck last year and is up to three employees. Taxes aren’t a problem as long as you have a good accountant. I pay more taxes working a 9 to 5. As far as the immigrants not wanting to be here, you are wrong. They taken high risks to be here and can leave when ever they want. Have you ever talked to one. It is the Hispanics that are fighting teaching in Spanish in the Calf. schools. They want there kids to speak English.

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          2. BillP October 23, 2014

            Bob trolls like Schmo make these asinine comments like “High taxes and horrible regulations make running a business an impossibility”. I guess major corporations like Apple, JP Morgan Chase, Catepillar and on & on don’t really exist. Maybe they don’t in right wing troll world?

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          3. bobnstuff October 23, 2014

            What I find interesting is they never talk about what regulations are the problem. I don’t think they have ever run a business or know anything about running one.

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          4. BillP October 24, 2014

            Bob you are right, these trolls always rant about rules and regulations harming industry. They tend to overlook things that industry did like GE polluting the Hudson River so badly there was an advisory about eating any fish caught in the Hudson.

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          5. jmprint October 22, 2014

            Your daddy didn’t have to pay a dime to become a United State citizen, even thought he was illegal when he can here. Now a days these poor people have to save for a long while and wait in line for a long time just to try to become US citizens. It isn’t easy for them. You are just a greedy lost sole.

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  3. ps0rjl October 21, 2014

    Just like Joni Ernst, I too grew up on a farm where we castrated hogs. So what? As long as the sheeple keep electing these assholes, we will have a country that will fall behind. She’s going to make sure her safety net is well oiled by big money fat cats. Sadly the women has no compassion for those who have fallen o hard times. I was at the grocery store yesterday and I saw a young couple with a small child and she was using a SNAP voucher to purchase some items. At first I wondered why an able-bodied young man like him was not working in the middle of the day. But then I thought maybe he worked at a minimum wage job and this was his day off or he might have worked the night shift. Then I remembered a quote from the Bible that says “Judge not lest you be judged”. I don’t know their circumstances but I bet old Joni the Castrator does. I would sooner be wrong a hundred times than to let one person suffer by removing the social safety net. Unfortunately people like Paul Ryan and Joni Ernst who compromise the GOP would sooner remove the social safety net than let one person cheat the system.

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    1. joe schmo October 21, 2014

      The middle class is sinking, the wealthy will find a way to go around the government, the government wants more and more of our money to pay for social programs. What do you think is going to happen when there is no more money to go around, and no more money to spend on lavish environmental programs. Poor countries can’t afford that sort of thing. Keep it up moron. Keep it up….

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      1. jmprint October 21, 2014

        Did you read the article in Rolling Stones about the Kock Brothers, if not enlighten yourself.

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        1. joe schmo October 22, 2014

          Did you happen to read this article.

          http://nikitas3.com/1083/why-are-so-many-rich-people-liberals/

          You can take Soros, Steyer and the uber rich Hollywood elites and stuff them up your ass.

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          1. jmprint October 22, 2014

            Yes I read it, the conclusion is that the Democratic rich people are NOT greedy, and the republicans ARE. Not only do they want to control our fate in the future by keeping the middle income and poor in a downward spiral, but also dictate when we can have children, when a women can take birth control, how we can vote. NOW GO READ THE ARTICLE I RECOMMENDED.

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  4. Tony Torres October 21, 2014

    With all these comments of her beliefs and her intentions of eliminating assistance to the needy,yet dumb people will STILL vote for this woman. We get what we ask for by not getting off our collective rears and VOTE. If we let other people vote and not ourselves then we are the ones at fault by not at least trying to address our problems.

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    1. jmprint October 21, 2014

      If we each take an additional person that normally wouldn’t vote to the polls to vote, we might prevail.

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      1. joe schmo October 21, 2014

        Huh, not sure where this will end but I sure hope you lose your asses. That should send a message across the bow. If you do win then America will sink lower and with all those new ILLEGAL residents flooding in Communism is just a stone throw away….

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        1. jmprint October 21, 2014

          The sky is falling, run and hide.

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          1. joe schmo October 22, 2014

            Go fly a kite to Cuba.

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          2. jmprint October 22, 2014

            Why cuba when I can fly a kite here in the US, while I still can, before you republicans try to take that right away also.

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    2. joe schmo October 21, 2014

      Of course they will, the GOP’s last hoorah….. With all those uneducated Haitians and Hispanics coming into the country illegally where do you think that will leave us….and I don’t mean that in a bigoted way. It’s the truth. To build up a country you want to add people who want to contribute to a country or become Americans not live off the coffers of the taxpaying public. There will come a time when there no longer will be the ‘mula’ to go around to spread the wealth and if you deduce this further you will see that there are not all that many millionaires either. From what I have read these people will not assimilate nor will they contribute. The only thing I can say bad about the GOP is the fact that with all those RINO’s in office nothing gets done because they are no different than the Democrats.

      So hang onto your hats, let the winds of change blow alll the way to the bottom of the canyon. From 2nd in the world to 12th. From #1 president to last place president. What we need is a miracle to turn this sinking ship around.

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      1. bobnstuff October 21, 2014

        You are wrong in so many ways but I will point out a few. Most immigrants work for what they get and to vote you must be an American citizen, that means a test that most native born couldn’t pass. Immigrants start business’s and pay taxes. Immigrants share the American Dream. It has been the immigrants that built this country.

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        1. joe schmo October 22, 2014

          I beg to differ………

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          1. bobnstuff October 22, 2014

            So your Dad didn’t share the American dream? He didn’t work for a better life for his family? Do you think it’s different today? Were they come from may be different but the dream hasn’t changed. They are here for a better life for their family just like your father.

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          2. joe schmo October 24, 2014

            Big difference and it has been proven. My dad came here with a dream and lived that dream. His children continued that dream and succeeded. Many ILLEGALS that come over here work hard (I’ll give you that one) however; many of their children don’t, join gangs, commit crimes and they live off the welfare system. Not only that, but in our state they take precedence and have taken all the jobs that most Americans do want to do….. It is largely a political ploy by your camp because you know damn well that these people will vote democrat.

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          3. Independent1 October 22, 2014

            And as usual you’re on the wrong side of history. Over the past decade, immigrants, including illegals have started over 30% of the new businesses in America. And that’s been no different since 2008. It’s immigrants who are here to work and send monies back to their families in other countries that have worked far harder than you ever will, and been one of the biggest ethnic blocs to actually help America get through the Great Recession.

            Just in your supposed great state of Texas, which is actually the cesspool of America, in 2013, immigrants, including illegals, contributed more than 18 billion to the Texas economy. And as bobnstuff pointed out, the CBO estimates that more than 60% of illegal immigrants, pay billions in income taxes every year, including more than 7 billion into social security and a lot into Medicare
            which since they don’t qualify for Social Security, or Medicare, or accumulate SS quarters, these illegals are actually helping extend the life of SS and reducing Medicare losses.

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          4. ericlipps October 22, 2014

            Beg all you like, Joe–with your paws up and your tongue out, for all I care. You don’t know any more about the world around you than a dog would, though of course you’ll go on barking.

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      2. sleepvark October 21, 2014

        schmuka, you happen to be one of the most pathetic examples of a worthless immigrant any of us has ever had the displeasure of encountering. You are exactly the reason why the effectiveness of the INS should be called into question.

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        1. joe schmo October 24, 2014

          FYI, I’m not an immigrant….my parents were…. I am a true blue American by birth:)

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  5. jmprint October 21, 2014

    That is just plain common sense, but the republicans can’t see that because they are blinded by blinders, see no truth, speak no truth, hear no truth.

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    1. joe schmo October 21, 2014

      Common Sense? What common sense. Your side has none from what I can see. Blinded by Blinders? Just how do you figure that one? We are skeptical and don’t trust the government man. How does that make us have blinders on. Because we don’t think the way you do. If anyone has their eyes wired shut it’s your side. I don’t think I have ever seen anything like it in my lifetime. Followers to the end, that’s what you are and…..that end is probably getting closer than you all think. No more America, No more freedom (it’s already half gone) Just wait till it hits your pocketbook and your home:) Good luck on that one…..

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      1. sleepvark October 21, 2014

        joey schmolina, how was that load of kool aid you guzzled down so willingly? Your delusions of adequacy are getting the best of you again. Go home to North Korea or where ever slimy rock it is you crawled out from under.

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        1. joe schmo October 22, 2014

          Why bother with your statements. They are meaningless and show your ignorance….

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          1. jmprint October 22, 2014

            Yours only show hatred and racist.

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          2. joe schmo October 24, 2014

            LOL, yah right. If anyone shows bigotry and hatred it is you and your ilk.

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      2. jmprint October 21, 2014

        The pocket started shrinking in 2008. We are just lucky President Obama kept it from disapearing altogether.

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        1. joe schmo October 22, 2014

          Well Dufuss why do you think that is?…..The dollar started to devaluate and it keeps going south. By the time Obama’s done with us, we will barely recognize what we once were. Embarrassed of this Country…..go fly a kite to Cuba.

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          1. bobnstuff October 22, 2014

            The dollar is at a high point. Look at the exchange rates. Inflation is at a slow pace. You keep saying the same thing even though you have been proven wrong every time you say it.

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          2. BillP October 23, 2014

            Bob Schmo and his bromance buddy Ken keep stating that the dollar is tanking. In reality the dollar is doing better versus the Euro, Yen, Pound and other currencies but if you tell them that they say it’s only in the liberal media? I guess the WSJ is liberal to these bubble world trolls.

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          3. bobnstuff October 23, 2014

            I know were they get it from, it’s the ads selling gold on Fox. Rush and his friends tell them that money is worthless and they must buy gold. Some people will buy anything.

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          4. joe schmo October 24, 2014

            Diversity is key. Put all your eggs in that stock market…..go ahead I dare you……

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          5. bobnstuff October 24, 2014

            I agree with you, The problem with stocks and gold is that they have no true value, only the value given by others.

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          6. BillP October 24, 2014

            Schmo’s comments on the stock market and currency exchange rates are wisdom he gathers at his daddy’s knee, that is the daddy he claims is very wealthy. I know Schmo claims his daddy told him to invest in gold and silver rather than the stock market. Great idea gold is down at least 20% over the last 3+ years.

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          7. joe schmo October 24, 2014

            The pound is 1.60 to the dollar. I know this for a fact since we have friends who spent 7 weeks in England this summer.

            Euro is 1.26 to the dollar.

            Yen is lower. Only one you have correct

            Do your research. Now who’s the bubble head or is it bobble head.

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          8. BillP October 24, 2014

            Hey Schmuck I’m glad your imaginary friends spent time in England but your research in currencies is as bad as it was in voter fraud.
            Date Pound Euro Yen
            1/1/2014 1.656120 1.37429 0.009498
            4/1/2014 1.663869 1.380436 0.009660
            7/1/2014 1.714371 1.368025 0.009831
            10/1/2014 1.621532 1.261865 0.009151
            10/23/2014 1.603566 1.265728 0.009246

            These are the exchange rates that it takes to purchase the Pound, Euro or Yen from the beginning of this year through yesterday. You might want to try to do some research yourself or at least understand that is it takes less Dollars to buy a Pound, Euro or Yen then the Dollar is going up in value not down.

            Your info about the Pound being 1.60 during this summer is incorrect. On 6/30 it was 1.710197 dollars to a pound, 7/31 it was 1.688807 and 8/31 it was 1.660250. So your “friends” couldn’t have gotten that rate.

            As usual your comments are useless “Euro is 1.26 to the dollar.” This doesn’t say which way the dollar was moving, but the dollar’s value has increased since the beginning of the year. So whose the bobble head? Keep up the bad work.

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          9. joe schmo October 24, 2014

            It is held up their artificially by our government. They are not telling you everything…… You need to do a bit of research. Read articles on out-of-country sites. Americans are so stupid sometimes. They believe everything their media writes…..

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      3. bobnstuff October 22, 2014

        You are blind to all the important things the government does and would throw out the baby with the bathwater. You blame the President for taking your freedoms, he has no power to pass laws. The biggest lose of freedom was the patriot act passed under a republican. You are blind to the truth. By the way it has hit me in the pocketbook, there is money in it.

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        1. joe schmo October 24, 2014

          Not a fan of Bush’s. They are psuedo Repubs. Conservatives refuse to vote if Jeb Bush runs that’s how unhappy we are with the Bush’s.

          LOL, just wait until the dollar completely devaluates. With no gold backing and China and Russia working to play around the dollar, the money in your pocketbook will only be worth the paper it is printed on.

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          1. bobnstuff October 24, 2014

            There hasn’t been gold backing the dollar since FDR. Russia is a non player, their economy is the size of Italia China controls there money, not real surprise in a controlled economy. There is no good reason to believe the second largest manufacturing nation in the world is going to tank.

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  6. ExRadioGuy15 October 21, 2014

    Actually, jmprint, it’s worse than that: the politicians of the GOP are servants of their greedy and Fascist wealthy and big corporate masters. So, of course, they’re going to do whatever their masters tell them to. That’s one of many reasons they need to be VOTED OUT of office.

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    1. joe schmo October 21, 2014

      Well, I can add one better to that. the politicians from the Liberal camp are servants and coddle to a greedy and Communist government master. Your side is in control at the moment so what is your point? This is the result of Liberals and liberal laws and it is not to be blamed entirely on the GOP. Isn’t it Obama who goes to all the big fund raisers including the ‘big corporate masters’ from the film industry. Who, by the way, outsource all the jobs to China and India while treating their CG artists like servants in a sweat shop. Nah, Nah….it’s the liberal majority that needs to be voted out. Better yet, take those liberally minded RINO’s with you.

      Joni Ernst is right. You cut of the goods and people will have to work hard to make life happen rather than relying on an over burdensome government. Raising the minimum wage will only add more weight to an already overtaxed and burdened American society. Companies will find new and innovative ways to get around the HIGH minimum wage. They will also hire less people. As usual your side has not thought out the consequences. You’ll see…..

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      1. Sand_Cat October 21, 2014

        More “Communist” crap from the Nazi who could walk around with a hammer in his head and a sickle in his ass and still not know it. As usual, you spout the constant refrain of the ignorant: I don’t like or understand that, so it’s Communist. I pointed out elsewhere – you no doubt ignored it – that all Communist countries not made that way by invasion started when the oppressed people rose up against repressive governments like the one you and the GOP would put in place here if you could, or against colonial administrations like the ones most of you want in Iraq and elsewhere. You are ignorant of history, politics, compassion, and just about everything else that matters in this discussion. Why don’t you stick your head back up you anus and start enjoying life again?

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        1. joe schmo October 22, 2014

          Head in the Sand, you have no clue. I guess you don’t know anything about the Weimar Republic? Look it up…. Germany was very Liberal before the rise of Nazism. In fact the people had a choice….Communism or Nazism. They chose the latter. Neither good, yet it all started with an ‘uber’ liberal agenda. (American Hero Channel)

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          1. Sand_Cat October 22, 2014

            Yeah, I heard of the Weimar Republic. A “lberal” republic overthrown by Nazis, supported by “conservatives,” to yield your favorite form of government. Thanks for supporting my point.
            Rather have my head in the sand than in my anus as you do.

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          2. joe schmo October 24, 2014

            No, Conservatives did not exist in the Weimar Republic. Nationalists did and only because they refused to go the direction of Marxism.

            Head in the Sand, Head as a suppository for Obama. No difference.

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          3. Sand_Cat October 27, 2014

            No go, Joe. Hindenerg (conservative) president appoints Hitler. It may make you feel better to call them “Nationalists,” but doesn’t change the facts, or your determination to avoid them.
            We need not discuss further where your head is lodged.

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      2. sleepvark October 21, 2014

        joelina schmo, your tampon is leaking all over your keyboard again. You need a new drug supplier, your current source has addled your brain, as if it wasn’t already.
        You couldn’t make it as a commie back in your homeland, so they threw you out. Now you’re probably an illegal alien here in the good old USofA, a country which you seem to hate with a purple passion.
        You are obviously not happy here. Go home to Mordor, or where ever it is you came from . . . if they’ll have your worthless a$$.

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        1. joe schmo October 22, 2014

          As usual you have nothing to say. Doesn’t surprise me one bit since you are the party of violent whiners rather than the party of solutions. America is my home but no longer yours. You have become too Communist to fit in here. Maybe you all need to move to Cuba or North Korea. Oh, but then your violent nature will be suppressed. I suppose you will know what it’s like to feel like us, minus the violent part on our end, for a change.

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          1. jmprint October 22, 2014

            Sounds like you are the only one that’s upset with OUR America, so maybe you can just find a country that suits you better. I for one think we can continue to work together and fix things for the betterment of mankind. I won’t be moving anywhere my ancestors have been on the land since the early 1500. What year did your infested relatives arrive?

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          2. joe schmo October 23, 2014

            No I’m upset with your Communist leader and the way he is leading you around by the nose and you don’t even realize it. I hate the fundamental change he has offered us up on a platter. It looks more like stinking spoiled meat.

            Thankfully, my family arrived in the 50’s. Bet your family owned slaves. We had nothing to do with that atrocity. At least we still appreciate what this country stood for. We don’t take it for granted and we have lived through many regimes that you have no understanding for. You wouldn’t know Marxism if it hit you in the head.

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          3. jmprint October 24, 2014

            You of all people more so than our neighbors in Mexico should to be proud to be here, instead all you do is complain. You are just an ungrateful person, and I don’t think you have too much room to judge, if you don’t like the president, the people that voted for him, then please do us ALL a favor and go back to your original country. I’m sure they will welcome you with open arms.

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      3. jmprint October 21, 2014

        do I detect a little Jealousy?

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        1. joe schmo October 22, 2014

          FY, and no way:

          The Democrat party is a race hating party, who uses ethnic groups to further their cause and who stood for slavery in the Civil War. Republicans stood up for the adoption of Civil Rights from the beginning not Liberals. Not too long ago Liberals supported Robert Byrd -member of the KKK who became speaker of the house. You do realize that the Democratic party has a long history with the KKK. They were their terrorist ass kickers.

          Liberals believe in Massive government, worry more about pacifying illegals than the people of this country. The Democrat party is a radical party that has lost its way.

          Republicans have never been violent. Never!

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          1. jmprint October 22, 2014

            Somebody stayed up drinking last night into the wee hours. WHO ARE THE GUN TOTING IDIOTS SCREAM REVOLT . . and the answer is violent republicans…have gun will kill.

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          2. joe schmo October 23, 2014

            Have you seen any violence from the Right? Little paranoid aren’t you. Read my above post, then tell me who the ‘violents’ are? LOL Watch your back….the sky may fall…..

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          3. ericlipps October 22, 2014

            Of course they have, Joe, beating and gunning down strikers from the 19th century on, beating and gunning down antiwar protestors in the sixties and seventies, bombing and gunning down abortion providers in the eighties . . . and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. (We won’t discuss the Civil War.)

            And by the way, I know that some of the violence against both labor and the antiwar movement came from Democrats too. My point is that Republicans also willingly participated, and many more cheered from the sidelines.

            As for the Klan, reaching back eighty years to make a point rather dulls that point, especially since the KKK and its sympathizers galloped madly away from the Democrats after Harry Truman desegregated the U.S. military, and have been loyal Republicans for many years now (except for the handfuls who’ve moved even further and become loyal neo-Nazis–but the way the GOP is headed, the distance between these groups may disappear before long).

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          4. joe schmo October 23, 2014

            Sixties and Seventies –

            Bill Ayers also became leader of Weather Underground
            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

            The Weather Underground – USA
            Activities
            “The Weather Underground carried out a large number of bombings, usually declared as revenge for specific incidents. They tried to destroy
            property and not human life, hitting their targets late at night after phoning in threats. Weathermen bombing sites include the following: The US Capitol
            Building,the Pentagon, The National Guard Building, Bank of America, Golden Gate
            Park, the Harvard University Center for International Affairs, the MIT Research Center, and many others. They were also responsible for the “Days of Rage” riots in 1969 and for helping Timothy Leary to escape fromprison.

            Symbionese Liberation Army – USA
            Activities
            In addition to the Hearst kidnapping, the SLA assassinated school superintendent Marcus Foster and robbed multiple banks. Its most famous
            episode wasthe kidnapping, however. Initially the SLA wanted to trade 19-year-old Patty Hearst for 2 SLA members who were in prison. When this proved impossible to negotiate, they bargained to have Hearst set up a 2-million-dollar
            program to distribute food free to the poor in California for several weeks. However, Patty Hearst decided to stay with the group after being freed,
            claiming she was joining of her own free will. Later she claimed she had been brainwashed, sexually abused, and was a victim of Stockholm Syndrome,
            the psychological tendency of a hostage to identify with and even support the kidnapper. Hearst’s case was controversial: Was she a brainwashed victim, or should she be held accountable for her own actions, which included bank robbery?

            “In the late 1960s and 70s, the original purity and idealism of the “flower children” youth movements in the developed world began to give
            wayunder the stresses and strains of what Hunter S. Thompson called “grim, meathook realities.” As the naivete of the Summer of Love curdled into
            something altogether darker, the militant left in its “hippie-freak” form began to take shape.”

            REAL DECENT PEOPLE DURING THAT TIME. Glad I was still a babe. My generation never even came close to this type of nonsense.

            Huh, the Civil War….Dems were on the wrong side. Conservatives fought for the right to get rid of slavery.

            Yah….all 2000-5000 KKK members…LOL Roots are still in Liberalism:) Why don’t we take a nice look at your sides hate groups:

            New Black Panthers

            NAACP

            ACLU

            LaRaza

            Acorn (which is now defunct and functioning under a new title)

            You can try to make a wrong a right but it just doesn’t quite cut the mustard…….

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      4. ericlipps October 22, 2014

        A “greedy and Communist government master,” Joe? Do you have any idea how ridiculous you sound?

        Joni Ernst may be your heroine of the moment (whatever happened to right-wingers’ last darling, the sacred Sarah?), but that doesn’t mean she has a clue what to really do.
        By the way, Obama may appeal to the film industry for donations, but the corporate chieftains of that industry aren’t Democrats and have not been in many decades. They back whoever bribes them with the most financial favors, and that is almost always the GOP.

        And if I were you, I’d watch that gleeful tone in boasting that companies will find ways to evade minimum-wage laws. If they do, it will be an invitation to further regulation.

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        1. joe schmo October 23, 2014

          Don’t sound ridiculous at all. My family escaped communism and my father states this country is headed in that direction. Sorry, I tend to listen to those that have been there done that.

          Unfortunately, Democrats have a problem with strong Republican women. At least they have a voice. Yes, the chieftains of the film industry are big liberals. I should know I work in the industry. They have been for decades verging on Communists. WHAT! The film industry has never been in the corner of the GOP. However they are in the pockets of Canada, London, China and India because of subsidies and cheap labor. You don’t know a thing about the film industry.

          Well, more regulations and more taxes = even less jobs and more outsourcing……

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          1. ericlipps October 24, 2014

            Okay. Let’s see you work for minimum wage for while, maybe at some unregulated meat packing plant.

            And the corporate guys who run modern Hollywood are “verging on Communists”? Maybe from the perspective of the Third Reich. The film industry groveled at the feet of the GOP in the late forties and the fifties; ever hear of the blacklist? Not that they aren’t “in the pockets of Canada, London, China and India” for money reasons, but I note that only one of those is actually Communist or anything close to it. You may work in the industry (I’ll assume you’re telling the truth about that) but you really don’t seem to know how the industry works.

            As for your whine about “even less jobs,” first, it should e “fewer,” and second, whether you admit it or not, unemployment is decreasing (the latest national figure is 5.9 percent). You don’t know what you’re talking about in that area either.

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    2. DAVE in VA October 22, 2014

      This will help you out, on who is the greedy party.http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

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  7. tranz2deep October 21, 2014

    SHOCK HORROR!! Helping people actually get paid for work cuts down on welfare! Who knew?
    ~~
    …how about everybody aside from the bobbleheads?

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  8. howa4x October 21, 2014

    Worse than having everybody dependent is government action against the chamber of commerce. This is the republican sacred cow and they won’t sacrifice it at the alter. Plus having people on food stamps makes great campaign adds. If they got everyone taking care of themselves what would they yell about. And while we are on the subject of dependency, lets talk about the red states not pulling their weight and being on the public dole. It is states like ruby red Mississippi that take much more back than they pay. So tea party why don’t you start at home and learn to live within your state budget.
    Interestingly enough as more Blue cities raise the wage to a living one they will be the countries leaders in getting people off government support, and create a stark contrast to Red states that artificially keep wages low. You can’t fix all your roads if a majority of people are earning less than the minimum wage.

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    1. Independent1 October 21, 2014

      Interesting that you should bring up the Chamber of Commerce. I believe most of us would expect that being “The U.S. Chamber of Commerce” that it would be supportive of “U.S. companies”. Well, that’s not always true – just like the COC doesn’t always tell the truth when it supposedly “speaks for small American companies”. And this couldn’t be more true than today, when small Gulf Coast companies are fighting for their lives in trying to get BP to reimburse them for the losses they incurred after BP’s oil spill in the Gulf, and the Chamber of Commerce is actually standing up for a British Oil Company instead of them. Goes to show you, supporters OF THE GOP JUST CAN’T BE TRUSTED!!

      See this:

      The revolt against the U.S. Chamber’s stunning betrayal of Main Street America

      It’s an idea that boggles the mind: America’s largest, most powerful and best-known business organization siding AGAINST tens of thousands of its own members — small- and mid-sized business owners in the U.S. heartland whose very survival is on the line. The only thing that could make that scenario involving the U.S. Chamber of Commerce even more staggering would be if the Chamber were doing this to aid a company that’s not even based in the United States.

      But that is exactly what is happening here in the Gulf Coast, where the U.S. Chamber, a lobbying Goliath, has sided with the London-based, pollution-spewing multinational corporation British Petroleum. BP is deperately pushing to reneg on its $8.7 billion-plus settlement with coastal businesses from Louisiana to Florida who were battered by the fallout from BP’s reckless, 5-million barrel 2010 oil spill. Now, the Chamber’s determination to side with international Big Oil against salt-of-the-earth American business owners is sparking an unprecedented revolt by the rank and file.

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/09/1335401/-The-revolt-against-the-U-S-Chamber-s-stunning-betrayal-of-Main-Street-America

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      1. howa4x October 21, 2014

        Agreed Great post I just hope Americans wake up

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