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U.S. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and Mexico's President Enrique Pena Nieto shake hands at a press conference at the Los Pinos residence in Mexico City, Mexico, August 31, 2016. REUTERS/Henry Romero

By Christine Murray, Ana Isabel Martinez and Dave Graham

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Donald Trump told Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto on Wednesday he would build a border wall to keep illegal migrants out if he wins the U.S. presidency, but Pena Nieto held fast to his position that Mexico would not pay for it.

Contradicting Trump’s assertion that the pair did not discuss who would pay for his proposed wall, Pena Nieto said after the departure of the Republican presidential candidate that he told him during their private meeting in Mexico City that his government would not pick up the bill.

“At the beginning of the conversation with Donald Trump I made it clear that Mexico will not pay for the wall,” Pena Nieto said in a tweet after not mentioning the issue during their joint news conference.

Trump gave a different account of the conversation, which was aimed at repairing relations damaged by the real estate mogul’s attacks on Mexico and migrant workers on the campaign trail.

“We did discuss the wall, we didn’t discuss payment of the wall, that will be at a later date, this was a very preliminary meeting. It was an excellent meeting,” Trump said.

His campaign waved off Pena Nieto’s statement, calling the meeting a first attempt at building a relationship.

“It was not a negotiation, and that would have been inappropriate. It is unsurprising that they hold two different views on this issue, and we look forward to continuing the conversation,” Trump spokesman Jason Miller said.

Many Mexicans were furious about Trump’s visit, deeply offended by how Trump has labeled Mexicans as rapists and drug traffickers, and wanted an apology. That did not come.

Even in private, Trump did not apologize to Pena Nieto, presidential spokesman Eduardo Sanchez told Reuters.

Trump is trailing Democratic rival Hillary Clinton in opinion polls for the Nov. 8 election. The New York businessman’s aides hoped the trip would make him look presidential and show he is willing to deal head on with a thorny issue like relations with Mexico.

The scenes of a measured Trump meeting with a foreign leader were aimed at convincing moderate American voters to see him in a more positive light as he tries to broaden his appeal.

Trump’s call for Mexico to fund the wall is often the central moment of his campaign rallies. He asks the crowd who will pay for the wall, and supporters shout back, “Mexico!”

DEMONSTRATORS: “TRUMP AND PENA OUT”

Mexican opposition politicians attacked Pena Nieto for hosting Trump.

The Republican candidate first made his accusations that Mexico is sending criminals and rapists across the border and pledged to build a wall that Mexico would pay for when he launched his presidential bid in June last year. He has also accused Mexico of cheating the United States on trade.

The Mexican president said the many millions of Mexicans in the United States deserve respect, but offered only a mild rebuke of Trump for his rhetoric.

“The Mexican people has felt aggrieved by comments that have been made, but I was sure his interest in building a relationship is genuine,” Pena Nieto said at their joint news conference after the talks.

A few dozen demonstrators gathered beneath a monument to Mexican independence in the center of the capital to protest the visit, some holding placards emblazoned with captions such as “You are not Wall-come” and “Trump and Pena out.”

Pena Nieto has been enmeshed in his own controversies, including over whether he plagiarized some of his 1991 undergraduate law thesis.

Trump’s visit to Mexico City took place hours before he was due to deliver a highly anticipated speech in the U.S. border state of Arizona on how he will tackle illegal immigration if he wins the election.

Trump has been pilloried in Mexico since he launched his White House campaign last year.

He has pledged to renegotiate or scrap the 1994 North American Free Trade Agreement trade deal between the United States, Mexico and Canada.

Clinton, a former secretary of state, said on Wednesday that Trump could not paper over his previous harsh language against Mexico, which helped him defeat 16 rivals for the Republican presidential nomination.

“It certainly takes more than trying to make up for more than a year of insults and insinuations by dropping in on our neighbors for a few hours and then flying home again,” she told a convention of the American Legion military veterans’ group in Cincinnati.

(Additional reporting by Steve Holland, Amanda Becker, Caren Bohan and Ginger Gibson in Washington; Writing by Alistair Bell; Editing by Simon Gardner and Leslie Adler)

Photo: U.S. Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and Mexico’s President Enrique Pena Nieto shake hands at a press conference at the Los Pinos residence in Mexico City, Mexico, August 31, 2016. REUTERS/Henry Romero

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  1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth August 31, 2016

    A wasted trip without any concern for safety and protocol, done at the last minute with no careful thought put into this publicity stunt, dictating terms while pretending to be cordial, being told flat out that there will be no payment for a wall—that’s the Donald method of diplomacy.

    Oh, and wall it will be, according to Drumpf—“it’s going to be beautiful, with high tech surveillance, and lottie dah…”.

    Methinks Drumpf is suffering from an overdose of a nutmeg/cannabis blend that keeps him in a constant state of delirium.

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    1. Independent1 August 31, 2016

      Just like Republicans consistently ignore history for what doesn’t work, like their ideology. Trump clearly is ignoring history which has showed time and again that walls do not work at keeping out whatever you don’t want entering your country.

      See this from USAToday:

      Donald Trump’s Great Wall — it didn’t work for the Ming Dynasty either

      Donald Trump is vowing to build a wall along the U.S. Southern border with Mexico, likening it to the Great Wall of China and even dubbing his proposed border barrier “The Great Wall of Trump.” It’s a key part of a tough-on-immigration stance that has powered him to front-runner status in Republican polls and will likely be touted again by the billionaire real estate developer at Wednesday’s debate.

      Yet, just as the Ming Dynasty’s 13,000-mile wall failed to keep out the
      Manchurians, Trump’s barricade would likely be an ineffective way of
      addressing the nation’s immigration challenges, border experts say.

      “The consensus is, it didn’t work very well,’’ said Edward Alden, a fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, of the wall that dates back to the 14th century, which the Manchurians repeatedly broke through.

      http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/09/14/donald-trump-border-wall/72026830/

      Insanity is also consistently doing things which history has shown will not work which is a modus operandi of Donald Trump and the GOP..

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      1. FireBaron September 1, 2016

        It wasn’t the Ming dynasty. While they maintained and updated it, the originial was built by the Qin dynasty in the 3rd Century BC.

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      2. ceekee September 1, 2016

        He’s totally off his rocker

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      3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth September 1, 2016

        I was thinking of China’s Great Wall, as I reflected on Donald’s imperious attitude which he took with him to Mexico. So, I’m interested that you were thinking along the same lines.
        The wall China built was designed mainly to block the advance of “barbarians” to their north. But it did nothing to prevent assaults along its southern border by the Mongolian Horde of Genghis and Kublai Khan

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        1. Independent1 September 2, 2016

          And Trump keeps demonstrating just how unfit he is to be president by claiming he’s going to build an ‘impenetrable wall’, when no such thing could realistically be built for the length of America’s southern border. Unless you included gun towers with guards every maybe 3-400 feet for much of its length which would be unrealistically expensive to maintain as you would need about 20 guards per mile (or maybe 2-3 times that many considering guards having to work in shifts)

          And what is not being included in this discussion, is the enormous environmental and people damage that such a wall would create. The existing walls that have been built have already created enormous environmental damage in at least a couple ways: 1) they’ve created enormous flooding and washouts of many areas which has resulted in a number of deaths, 2) they have disrupted the natural migration and foraging for food patterns of a number of animal species which has resulted in the loss of some endangered species already and put some others in danger. And the wall has resulted in a number of deaths of humans in the flooding and by also separating them from being able to get to where they had been able to find food.

          So I’m a little surprised that there hasn’t been more outraged expressed from environmentalists yet about the Donald’s totally nonsensical idea of building a wall bigger than the ones that are already along our southern border.

          And just as an aside, the staffing of guards has already increased beyond what is a realistic limit, as there have already been a number of guards killed by friendly fire – one set of guards mistaking another set of guards for hostile immigrants trying to cross the boarder. This whole misguided nonsense about immigrants being a big danger to our country is not only totally misguided, it is costing people’s lives who shouldn’t have to be dying, animal species going extinct and environmental damage that shouldn’t have been necessary.

          Immigrants by far, are more beneficial to America in helping to drive our nation’s economy than any danger we face from them committing crimes, or from taking other Americans’ jobs or even what they cost our nation and states to educate and provide them with health care.

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          1. dpaano September 2, 2016

            As I said, I just read an article that did some fact checking on his immigration speech, and it was quite enlightening. He stated he wanted to set up a “new immigration commission to develop a new set of reforms to our legal immigration system in order to achieve his goals.” Fact is that he’s largely describing existing legal immigration policies that are already in place…..nothing new to see there. Besides, illegal immigration is at its lowest point since 1972. The only real rise is the flow of unaccompanied children fleeting gang violence and poverty in Central America….and even that has slowed down significantly.
            Also, he cited research and statistics from special interests like the Center for Immigration Studies and The Federation for American immigration Reform (FAIR) — groups that promote dramatically decreased rates of legal immigration. It was stated that “many of Trump’s own facts were misleading and inaccurate, obscuring truth in a debate both parties agree is necessary.” Personally, I think Clinton is going to tear him a new A-hole, especially if she gets heavily into the immigration question.

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          2. Independent1 September 2, 2016

            I’m not too familiar with FAIR, but the CIS is as partisan biased a right-winged organization as it gets; generally spewing total fabrications of reality based on totally unsupportable statistics. The CIS was established some years back by a died-in-the-wool anti-immigrant right-winger. And to be honest, I will be a little surprised if Trump doesn’t concoct some way to weedle himself out of debating Hillary. But as you say, if he does, I think Hillary will make him look rather foolish.

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      4. dpaano September 1, 2016

        If you build a wall, they will come!!!!

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    3. FireBaron September 1, 2016

      Same thing with his publicity stunt visit to Louisiana.

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      1. ceekee September 1, 2016

        True that!

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    4. Mama Bear September 1, 2016

      best description of him yet!

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    5. ceekee September 1, 2016

      Exactly.

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  2. FT66 September 1, 2016

    Seriously, who wants a person like Trump to represent them on world stage? It was a big shame with his trip to Mexico. I can’t imagine how the President of Mexico feels now, but thats the way Trump destroyed the other GOP contenders during primaries. I believe they discussed about the wall and who will pay and the Mexican President said he won’t pay. The Mexican President didn’t want confrotation (especially to his guest) when Trump lied while he was standing next to him, that they didn’t discuss who will pay for the wall. I don’t think there is any world leader who is ready to meet a man like Trump as a President.

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    1. ceekee September 1, 2016

      Just Putin his buddy.

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      1. dpaano September 1, 2016

        Yeah, the “dynamic duo!”

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        1. Independent1 September 2, 2016

          You really have to wonder just how politically uninformed and clueless the millions of Americans are who can’t see the outright danger that electing Trump for our president would create for America and all its people; including them.

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          1. dpaano September 2, 2016

            There’s definitely quite a few of them out there!!!

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    2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth September 1, 2016

      No, there aren’t any world leaders who would admit wanting to meet Trump, except Putin, Assad, and Kim Jong-Un. If Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Stalin were alive, they too would have rushed to embrace him as a kindred soul.

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  3. Ernie Aldridge September 1, 2016

    From the article – ‘calling the meeting a first attempt at building a relationship.’
    How’s that working for ya, Donnie??
    Now Mexico knows you’re a liar.
    Who’s next??

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    1. yabbed September 1, 2016

      Who’s left?

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      1. dpaano September 1, 2016

        Hard to day since the Europeans can’t stand him and don’t want to have anything to do with him!!!

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    2. ceekee September 1, 2016

      Yes they do.

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  4. yabbed September 1, 2016

    Where did fatso get that Miss Clairol hair? He was a brunette back when he had his own real hair and now miraculously he’s a bottle blonde. Trump seriously needs to lose weight. He’s beginning to waddle.

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    1. ceekee September 1, 2016

      It’s blonde on top except for the bald spot on the side, and it’s white on the sides. His complexion makes him look unhealthy. I think he’s the one who is physically unfit, as well as temperamentally unfit.

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  5. ceekee September 1, 2016

    Trump lies yet again. He actually believes his own lies. He thinks if he says it, it becomes true. What an unpresidential lout he is.

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  6. Aaron_of_Portsmouth September 1, 2016

    This whole notion of building walls, fences, moats was an ideal strategy during the ages of infancy of human society’s development. The insularity and primitive imperative of protecting groups that coalesced around family, tribal, ethnic notions of unity was necessary then but is not only archaic and ridiculous from a practical standpoint of a humanity that has matured(not in all cases) to seeing itself as sharing the same tiny ball of dust circling the sun in a vast ocean of a galaxy which itself is a dot in a cluster of galaxies.

    If humanity can’t reconcile itself to accept the vision, as put before us that “The earth is but one country, and humankind its citizens” then we will never mature to the point of achieving what all the Prophets of God have sacrificed Themselves for—which is the eventual establishment of “The Oneness of Humanity”.

    Trump and his supporters, Putin and many in Russia, Chinese leaders, nationalists in Europe, contending ethnic groups in Nigeria and Arab countries, etc. are still stuck in an isolationist mode of thinking and for them the idea of giving up a childish fantasy of national sovereignty will forever keep them mired in a juvenile, Dark Ages, constipated geographical/geopolitical view of the earth. As such, they stand in direct violation of what all the Messengers, who have appeared successively in different eras of human evolution, have prophesied and suffered for—this puts many Americans in direct conflict and contradictory to the Will of God, of Jesus, and all the other Prophets.
    (I don’t say this just to hear myself talk(type) but to inspire us to think beyond “limited unities”).

    The notion of traveling beyond the Solar System will remain confined to Star Trek and Star Wars episodes because the citizens of earth aren’t able to look beyond artificial national boundaries drawn on maps designed and largely formalized by those Modern Humans who migratewd into what is now called Europa(Europe).

    Nor will any advanced civilizations wish to mingle with people afraid to intermix with others of their own sentient species based on nationality, race, color, and Religion.

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    1. Jon September 1, 2016

      I have friends from a variety of nations, religions, colors, and ethnicities. At least from them I believe that a large number of people on earth believe in one humankind and a brother and sisterhood of all sharing this earth. However, it can never be achieved as long as politicians like Donald Trump, Charles Grassley, Mitch McConnell, Dan Issa, Paul Ryan and hate clubs like the Republican Party, the KKK and other white supremacist/nationalists, right wing media like Fox news, Breitbart news, Judicial Watch, The Daily Stormer, and others continue with their hate-mongering propaganda. I realize that some people, clubs, and media like them are present in almost every nation to make certain that hostility by one group against another is maintained to the extent possible.

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth September 1, 2016

        And the groups you list are a subset of the spiritually deranged people/groups inhabiting planet Earth.

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  7. Jon September 1, 2016

    When Trump said during the press conference where he looked sickly and had very low energy that payment for the Great Wall of Trump wasn’t even discussed with Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto my 1st thought was you lying sob. For over a year now you have told people that Mexico was going to pay for the wall and used it as a means to get your parrots talking by asking them who’s going to pay for the wall and talking about safety from illegal immigrants and hearing them hysterically scream “build the wall.” And then you go meet with the Mexican President but don’t even discuss payment for the wall. Impossible. Just how stupid and gullible do you think people are? President Pena Nieto set the record straight when he later tweeted that he had told Trump that Mexico was not going to pay for the wall. Donnie LIED again. I can’t recall the last time 24 hours passed without Donnie telling at least 1 lie.

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    1. Independent1 September 2, 2016

      According to PolitiFact, 9 out of every 10 things Donnie says is a lie.

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      1. Jon September 2, 2016

        That I believe. I listen to him tell lie after lie and get so frustrated knowing that some people are accepting his lies as truth. I honestly can’t recall the last time he didn’t tell at least 1 lie and usually several lies.

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        1. Independent1 September 2, 2016

          That’s not hard for Trump to do as PolitiFact says only about 10% of what he says is really true.

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      2. dpaano September 2, 2016

        I just read a good article entitled, “Fact Checking Trump’s Immigration Speech,” and it points out that several of the BS items he discussed in his speech in Phoenix was actually a bunch of out and out lies! Many of the things he’s saying he’s going to do are things we already do, and I could go on and on. It was quite an interesting article….and, as usual, full of his lies that his followers love to believe!

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        1. Independent1 September 2, 2016

          Yes, I’ve seen a couple of those fact checking articles on Trump’s immigration speech and there was little if anything he said which wasn’t either a lie or a fabrication of reality.

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  8. rome44 September 2, 2016

    I hope no one took his comments seriously. He uses those talking points to draw attention to the issue that sends right wingers into a frenzy. Listen, that wall will never be built and most assuredly Mexico isn’t paying for it. Fo-get about it.

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