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Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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By now you may have noticed that Donald Trump exists in his very own reality — a pleasing world where the Mexicans will pay us to build a border wall, where industrial nations will capitulate instantly to his trade demands, and where global climate change is merely a myth “created by and for the Chinese.” Lunatic as The Donald’s confident assertions often may be, not all of them are as easily debunked as certain remarks he made at today’s press conference in New York to introduce his new book.

Discussing the presidential debates, Trump complained more than once about the free ride that Hillary Clinton supposedly enjoyed at the last Democratic debate, which was televised by CNN and moderated by Anderson Cooper. According to the real estate mogul, the questioning by Cooper and his colleagues “was very unfair because Hillary Clinton was given all softballs. They didn’t ask her one tough question! They didn’t talk about the foundation, they didn’t talk about the emails….She only got softballs, that’s all she got…Hillary had only softballs, all night long. ‘Here, Hillary, hit this one over the park.’”

That struck me as a pandering and distorted account of the debate — so I checked.

It is true that Cooper didn’t inquire about the Clinton Foundation, but the questions he did ask (reproduced below without Clinton’s answers, which can be found in the full transcript here) indicate just how far Trump is willing to stretch facts to fit his preconceptions. Not only did Cooper pose several tough questions to her, from the very beginning of the debate, but he seized every chance to pillory Hillary in framing questions he put to the other candidates. (And he did ask her — and the others — about the damned emails.)

Unlike the Republicans, she spared us the post-debate whining.

From the transcript:

COOPER: Secretary Clinton, I want to start with you. Plenty of politicians evolve on issues, but even some Democrats believe you change your positions based on political expediency. You were against same-sex marriage. Now you’re for it. You defended President Obama’s immigration policies. Now you say they’re too harsh. You supported his trade deal dozen of times. You even called it the “gold standard”. Now, suddenly, last week, you’re against it. Will you say anything to get elected?

COOPER [following up]: Secretary Clinton, though, with all due respect, the question is really about political expediency. Just in July, New Hampshire, you told the crowd you’d, quote, “take a back seat to no one when it comes to progressive values.” Last month in Ohio, you said you plead guilty to, quote, “being kind of moderate and center.” Do you change your political identity based on who you’re talking to?

COOPER: Secretary Clinton, Russia, they’re challenging the U.S. in Syria. According to U.S. intelligence, they’ve lied about who they’re bombing. You spearheaded the reset with Russia. Did you underestimate the Russians, and as president, what would your response to Vladimir Putin be right now in Syria?

COOPER [to Martin O’Malley]: Secretary Clinton voted to authorize military force in Iraq, supported more troops in Afghanistan. As Secretary of State, she wanted to arm Syrian rebels and push for the bombing of Libya. Is she too quick to use military force?

COOPER [following up insistently]: Does she — does she want to use military force too rapidly?

COOPER: Secretary Clinton, on the campaign trail, Governor [sic] Webb has said that he would never have used military force in Libya and that the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi was inevitable. Should you have seen that attack coming?

COOPER [following up]: But American citizens did lose their lives in Benghazi.

COOPER: Secretary Clinton, you are going to be testifying before Congress next week about your e-mails. For the last eight months, you haven’t been able to put this issue behind you. You dismissed it; you joked about it; you called it a mistake. What does that say about your ability to handle far more challenging crises as president?

COOPER: Secretary Clinton, Secretary Clinton, with all due respect, it’s a little hard — I mean, isn’t it a little bit hard to call this just a partisan issue? There’s an FBI investigation, and President Obama himself just two days ago said this is a legitimate issue.

COOPER [after Bernie Sanders dismissed the email controversy]: It’s obviously very popular in this crowd, and it’s — hold on.

(APPLAUSE) I know that plays well in this room. But I got to be honest, Governor Chafee, for the record, on the campaign trail, you’ve said a different thing [challenging Clinton’s ethics]. You said this is a huge issue. Standing here in front of Secretary Clinton, are you willing to say that to her face?

COOPER: Governor O’Malley, you expressed concern on the campaign trail that the Democratic Party is, and I quote, “being defined by Hillary Clinton’s email scandal.”You heard her answer, do you still feel that way tonight?

COOPER: Secretary Clinton, how would you address this [income inequality] issue? In all candor, you and your husband are part of the one percent. How can you credibly represent the views of the middle class?

COOPER: Secretary Clinton, Governor O’Malley says the presidency is not a crown to be passed back and forth between two royal families. This year has been the year of the outsider in politics, just ask Bernie Sanders. Why should Democrats embrace an insider like yourself?

Photo: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump holds up a copy of his new book “Crippled America” at news conference to promote the book in the Manhattan borough of New York City, November 3, 2015.  REUTERS/Brendan Mcdermid 

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Joe Conason

A highly experienced journalist, author and editor, Joe Conason is the editor-in-chief of The National Memo, founded in July 2011. He was formerly the executive editor of the New York Observer, where he wrote a popular political column for many years. His columns are distributed by Creators Syndicate and his reporting and writing have appeared in many publications around the world, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, The New Yorker, The New Republic, The Nation, and Harpers. Since November 2006, he has served as editor of The Investigative Fund, a nonprofit journalism center, where he has assigned and edited dozens of award-winning articles and broadcasts. He is also the author of two New York Times bestselling books, The Hunting of the President (St. Martins Press, 2000) and Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (St. Martins Press, 2003). Currently he is working on a new book about former President Bill Clinton's life and work since leaving the White House in 2001. He is a frequent guest on radio and television, including MSNBC's Morning Joe, and lives in New York City with his wife and two children.

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83 Comments

  1. Otto Greif November 3, 2015

    Hillary is a victim, we get it.

    Reply
    1. JPHALL November 3, 2015

      Unlike the Repugnantcans, she is not a whiner!

      Reply
      1. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

        Frump even bragged that he whines until he gets what he wants. Geez, kick him to the curb fast. There is absolutely nothing Presidential about him. Putting him in charge would be just like putting the big corporations in charge, and that is what he would do, after all, he is a big corporation. That is not what we need or want running OUR country.

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        1. plc97477 November 4, 2015

          Maybe a big corporation in a diaper.

          Reply
      2. David November 4, 2015

        Not a whiner — she’s a liar!

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        1. greenlantern1 November 4, 2015

          Nixon was NOT a crook!
          John Mitchell was Not a criminal
          Spiro Agnew did NOT make a plea bargain!
          SURE!!

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          1. David November 4, 2015

            What does that have anything to do with the thief and liar Hildebeast?

            Reply
          2. bobnstuff November 4, 2015

            Trump steals much bigger and tells grander lies, He will do for the country like he did for Atlantic City.

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          3. David November 4, 2015

            Deflect again!!!! Sorry, the subject is your Queen Hildebeast.

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          4. bobnstuff November 4, 2015

            No the subject is Trump lying about the softball question in the Democrats debate. Once again Trump lied. Read the article.

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          5. David November 4, 2015

            Read the line of comments…we were talking about the $45 million dollar “champion of the middle class”.

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          6. bobnstuff November 4, 2015

            Are you sure you are on the right page? This is a the one about the whining Trump and his lies about softball questions. They didn’t even put the answers in the piece. This is all about your boy Trump and his once again misstating facts.

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          7. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

            I just saw on Change.org, that Frump has thousands of FAKE followers on his Twitter account and that that is against the rules. Geez, he needs FAKE followers? How pathetic is that?

            ..

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          8. plc97477 November 4, 2015

            He has been know to hire actors to make his speeches look well attended.

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          9. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

            Yes, he does. He even hired actors to attend his announcement to run. Now he hires them if he wants it to look like he has a lot of attendees at his “speeches”. He lies about everything. Just like the rest of them do. Can’t believe or trust any of the so-called candidates for the R gang (can’t even call them a party). They will say anything and then not do anything good for us. Their goal is to destroy the government and if we don’t want that to happen, better get out and vote against this political terrorist mob.

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          10. plc97477 November 5, 2015

            I have not missed a vote since I became old enough to vote and I wish more people could say that.

            Reply
          11. Blueberry Hill November 5, 2015

            Congratulations! I can say the same thing. I have voted in every election since I was old enough to vote. Wish all Dems could say that too.

            Reply
          12. greenlantern1 November 4, 2015

            Were charges brought against Mitchell?
            Against Agnew?
            Against Nixon?
            Against Hillary?
            Guilty until PROVEN INNOCENT!
            The REPUBLICAN WAY!!

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          13. greenlantern1 November 6, 2015

            Trump’s TAJ MAHAL paid a $48,000 fine to Christie’s gambling commission because it ran illegal slot machines!
            Economical?
            Super-Pac?
            Tough questions?

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        2. JPHALL November 4, 2015

          Compared to the GOP candidates, she is positively angelic!

          Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          1. David November 4, 2015

            If she gets elected, maybe she and Willy can steal some more things from the Whitehouse.

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          2. JPHALL November 4, 2015

            That has also been debunked. Try again!

            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          3. David November 4, 2015

            Check abcnews and politifact–$200,000 stolen by them. Scum!

            Reply
          4. JPHALL November 4, 2015

            YOU CHECK again. They paid it off.

            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          5. David November 4, 2015

            They still stole it! Thieving scum.

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          6. JPHALL November 4, 2015

            You are such a loser! They, like most people (Bush, Reagan), thought some gifts were theirs. Like others, when told, they paid for it.
            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          7. David November 5, 2015

            Can’t argue against the truth so make up an attack against the Republicans. Ha ha! The Clintons are simple thieves and you still worship them!

            Reply
          8. JPHALL November 5, 2015

            WHAT TRUTH? The Clintons eventually got a bill, returned some items, and paid for the rest. By the way, the government eventually returned some furniture to them. Look it up loser.
            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          9. David November 6, 2015

            Why did they have to return things that belonged to them? Oh!! I know!!! They had to return things that DIDN’T belong to them that they took. Sounds like theft to me. But then again, what do I know–right?

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          10. JPHALL November 6, 2015

            That is the question. And the answer is you know very very little. You spend eight years living with and having things given to you and done for you. When you leave you know everything that you are supposed to leave behind. Be real for a change.
            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          11. David November 6, 2015

            Apparently they felt just about everything was theirs! Filthy maggots!

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          12. JPHALL November 6, 2015

            I see that you lack mental competence. So sad for you.
            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          13. David November 6, 2015

            What is sad are weasels like you who accept everything the Clintons do and relish it!

            Reply
          14. JPHALL November 6, 2015

            Why do you hate the Clintons so much even when your excuses for it are so easily disproved? Life is too short to harbor such unrelieved hatred. Try counseling. It could help you.
            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          15. David November 6, 2015

            You haven’t disproved that they stole furniture and furnishings from the Whitehouse. I don’t “hate” them. I find them to be crooked. It started with Travelgate. Went on with “bimbo eruption control”. Followed up with Monica Lewinsky and Willy did “not have sex with that woman”. Don’t forget leaving the Whitehouse “flat broke”. Now having a net worth of 45 million. On and on.

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          16. JPHALL November 6, 2015

            Like I said, try counseling. Just repeating the same lies prove nothing. Find out why you have so much hatred for people who have done nothing to you.
            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          17. David November 7, 2015

            Uhh…Monica Lewinsky and her dress was a lie?

            Reply
          18. JPHALL November 8, 2015

            Are you on drugs? They seem to be not that good. You have been cheated!
            Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          19. David November 8, 2015

            You are right…he never had sex with that woman. But he did lose his law license for committing perjury. Must have been a mistake!

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          20. JPHALL November 8, 2015

            You continue to prove you are a true loser! What an obsession! Get help. A good shrink could really help you. Subject: Re: Comment on Only Softballs? Transcript Shows Trump Lied About Democratic Debate

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          21. David November 8, 2015

            You need to wake up.

            Reply
    2. The lucky one November 4, 2015

      And The Duck is a buffoon, we get that too.

      Reply
    3. Patrick Jennings November 4, 2015

      Nowhere in the article does the author claim that Hillary is a victim. It is quite clear the article is in response to a specific claim made by some Republicans. Specifically, Trumps claim “she got all softballs”. She did not. But instead of just claiming that, the author offered several examples of actual questions.

      These examples don’t prove Hillary is a victim. The author isn;t claiming she is.

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      1. Otto Greif November 4, 2015

        All Conason does is whine about how unfair everyone is to St. Hillary, it’s hilarious.

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        1. Patrick Jennings November 4, 2015

          I guess I must have missed it. Please point specifically where the author claims (or whines if you like) that Hillary was treated unfairly in the last debate.

          The point of this article is not complicated: The republicans have complained that they were treated unfairly. Asked unfair “gotcha” questions. While the Democrats where asked “nothing but softballs”.

          The author examined that claim by listing some (not all) of the questions asked in the Democratic debate as way of challenging the Republicans claim.

          If you don’t believe me you can scan to the top of the page a read the article again. Are the questions the author lists all softballs? If so why? Are they easier questions than the typical policy-related questions the Republican were asked? If so why?

          If Trump’s claim is true and the authors claims are all whining, what is your evidence. What examples support your position?

          And when you claim that, “All Conason does is whine” what are you talking about.

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          1. Otto Greif November 4, 2015

            Conason has made a career whining on behalf of the Clintons.

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          2. Patrick Jennings November 4, 2015

            Fair enough. But he is not the topic of this article – he is the author. The topic is an examination of claims made by Republicans.

            After reading it (you did read it?) you claimed this was just an attempt to paint Hillary as a victim. I am still waiting for you to supply evidence to support that claim. You just keep repeating the attack on the author.

            But again, he was not the topic – republican claims where. Since you have offered nothing to contest the main point of the article I have to assume you agree with it – that the republican claims are baseless and the Democrats where in fact asked substantial questions in the last debate.

            If so, then we can move on from this silly, time wasting discussion about how harshly the Republican were treated in the last debate. Which will leave you with more time to hate on Joe Conason.

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        2. yabbed November 4, 2015

          Hillary Clinton clearly can hold her own against those GOP idiots. She’s proven that. She’s going to be the next POTUS.

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          1. Otto Greif November 4, 2015

            You should send her some money.

            Reply
  2. Mortalc01l November 3, 2015

    Well, what do you expect? The Republican party and the truth have long been divorced from each other and even though the party remarried, I hear that they and REALITY are now divorced. So sad.

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  3. bcarreiro November 3, 2015

    Trump likes the bench…to much dirt on him.

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  4. Daniel Jones November 3, 2015

    Fiorina refers to videos she did not watch because they were never made–Trump attacks debates before they happen or makes assertions on the ones that did without ever checking the transcripts.

    In Virginia, Nancy Dye tries distributing flyers for an Independent seeking the office she covets as if he was competing on the Democratic ticket, in hopes of crippling the Democratic effort.

    Is it any wonder I have no trust in these bozos?

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    1. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

      So many states have done so much gerrymandering so the Rs would win. We need to get twice as many Dems out to vote to maybe stay even. Over One Million more dems received votes last election in the H of R, but because of the gerrymandering, they were outdone. If they cannot win honestly, without the gerrymandering , lies and stealing, they don’t deserve the seats they are buying. It is nothing honorable about winning in Kentucky, it was a stacked deck.

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  5. Dominick Vila November 4, 2015

    Trump wrote a book? I didn’t know this clown knew how to write! His assertions about Hillary Clinton getting soft questions during the debate contrast with the evidence we all watched, which ranged from domestic issues to a wide array of foreign policy issues. She was asked about Benghazi, the implications of regime change in Libya, Syria, Iraq, the Ukraine, China, and just about everything Anderson Cooper could think of. The Donald’s intellectual limitations, and his lack of knowledge, are aggravated by assertions like this.

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    1. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

      He doesn’t do much, he hires someone to do everything for him. Having him for President would be to put the Big Corporations in charge of the government , of which he is a part. Hope people wake up before it’s too late. I thought we wanted big corps out of government. Trump = Big Corps. He will have them in charge of everything.

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      1. Dominick Vila November 4, 2015

        Judging by yesterday’s election results in Kentucky, Mississippi, and Virginia, it is going to be a very long time before the effects of the brainwashing dissipate.

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        1. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

          Isn’t that the truth! They’ve been dumbed down so much, that they can’t even reason or think for themselves. We need to get all Dems out to vote or Heaven Help us, if we end up ruled by those morons. There is also the gerrymandering to fight too. They are cheating every way they can think up. They don’t deserve any type of power.

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          1. Dominick Vila November 4, 2015

            What worries me the most about the GOP taking the White House is the fact that at least 3 Supreme Court Justices will probably have to be replaced during the next 4 to 6 years. The impact of a SC controlled by ultra conservatives will have lasting consequences on our way of life and our freedoms for decades to come.
            Hopefully every single Democrat wakes up and votes in 2016.

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          2. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

            We have our work cut out for us. We just have to pass on the stuff we know and learn of the psychos running for President. Did you see the article about Ben Conman that I posted on here today? There are other articles out there about him too, some of his botched surgeries, etc. I knew all along that there was something not right about him. Be sure to read the article on my post on here today if you get a chance. He is nothing but a grifter con man. Don’t be fooled by his calm and cool act.

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          3. Polana November 4, 2015

            I think he is on drugs. He talks and acts just like my former neighbor son – like he was a sleep and if u talk to him after few shots/puffs, he acted exactly as Ben the Conman. Nothing made sense and contradicted himself so many times that finally he OD at 28.
            I think ALL should go for drug tests before any debate.
            None qualify for the job. NONE

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          4. Dominick Vila November 4, 2015

            His calm demeanor does not impress me. What disturbs me the most is his ignorance of matters of critical importance to our country, ranging with lack of familiarity of international issues, to the nuances of his own flat tax

            proposal (which I suspect he borrowed from Ron Paul). Carson is an empty suit who does not deserve the attention he is getting. Neither does Trump.

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          5. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

            Absolutely, neither one deserves any attention. One thing I’ve learned from seeing so many doctors, is that they know nothing else, only their doctor training. I’ve “taught” much to my doctors about other subjects. It is amazing how much they do not know.
            I think it is insulting how much the news media pushes these morons on us. They act like they are campaigning for the morons, for free, at that.

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          6. yabbed November 4, 2015

            This is just Iowa and New Hampshire and they are of no consequence in the great scheme of things. Carson is the pizza guy whatshisname from the last election. He will fade away in due time. He’s no threat.

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          7. yabbed November 4, 2015

            There’s no one who can defeat Hillary Clinton. I’m confident the Democrats will hold the White House in 2016.

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        2. latebloomingrandma November 4, 2015

          Wait till the next governor gets rid of KYnect care, which the idiots don’t know is Obama care.

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    2. yabbed November 4, 2015

      HIs Art of the Deal was a NY Times best seller for months and months. Trump isn’t stupid. He’s just a whacko.

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    1. plc97477 November 4, 2015

      The fact that he is trying to distance himself from the company shows he knows it is a complete scam.

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      1. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

        Yes, he does know it is a complete scam. I wondered why he would give up being a doctor to go into politics. I have another story about him, I’ll put it on here:

        https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/ben-carson-former-patient-blasts-surgeon-ruining-her-160209439.html

        He is a complete scam and a joke. All he wants to do is sell books. He is totally unfit to be a President of anything.

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  6. bobnstuff November 4, 2015

    Trump didn’t watch the debate! He was tweeting with others at the time wasn’t he?

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  7. sealbeams November 4, 2015

    I don’t think trump lies about anything. He just has a different take on everything because in his mind he is the only candidate. He is in a tough spot because he can’t negociate with his money or in other words, buy the position he wants. He can be out spent by super pacs. He is not accustomed to this. With a level playing field as far as money is concerned, he has nothing left to fight with.

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  8. Mike Fakelast November 4, 2015

    Why does it keep surprising people when these guys blatantly lie? It’s been established time and time again that Republicans are too stupid to form their own opinions so they just believe what they’re being told by someone who they deem “better” or “smarter.” They just follow, like sheep. It’s why FOX “News” Channel even exists.

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  9. OHGirl November 4, 2015

    I am so tired of hearing about the liberal press. It just doesn’t really exist anymore – at least no more than the corporate-funded conservative “news” shows. I can’t believe this man is still even in the race. Mr. Whineypants should have been kicked to the curb months ago. What the hell is wrong with these people? I’m not one of those liberals who is easily offended (you know, like liberals tend to be), but this man offends me in so many ways. Mostly for his blatant misogyny, but in so many other ways as well. Can anyone just shut him the F-up already!

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    1. Irishgrammy November 4, 2015

      OHGirl, I couldn’t agree more! I am so sick of hearing attacks on any idea, question, or investigative journalism being labeled the “Liberal Press”, my God, the TRUTH has a liberal bent, because truth is truth, not ideology, the “truth” being so antithetical to what Republicans represent today! So naturally they level the charge “liberal media” as the all inclusive insult when they can’t answer a question, or they don’t want to be exposed for what or who they really are!!! Am so sick of this obnoxious, hateful, incessantly bragging clown Donald Trump…… He keeps saying how smart he is, and I keep waiting to see ANY evidence of it!!!! And the lying my God, it’s on epic scale!! There is only ONE reason he has been at the “top” of the clown show, and that is what he said when he announced he was running, his contempt for immigrants and what he is threatening to do with them, which the loud xenophobic base loves, along with every outrageous statement, lie and insult that no one is exempt from he makes, that they all cheer. I cannot imagine another year of this insult of a campaign and the negativity it will have on this country!!!

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  10. Stuck in Kansas November 4, 2015

    The reason they thought the Democrats got softball questions is that the Democrats could answer the questions without looking stupid.

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    1. Blueberry Hill November 4, 2015

      Absolutely!

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  11. greenlantern1 November 4, 2015

    Trump’s TAJ MAHAL paid a fine to Christie’s gambling commission because of illegal slot machines!
    Any questions?

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  12. Insinnergy November 4, 2015

    Let pose a “softball” question for the Donald that is in the same class as those posed to Hillary:
    “The Donald, do you think someone with Mafia connections should run for president?”

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  13. paulyz November 4, 2015

    By Anderson Cooper asking Hillary about emails, letting her sidestep & deny any wrongdoing, then not following up on hard questions, was CNN’s way of clearing her of the issue. This is hardly Hardball, just political partisan propaganda.

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  14. Lynda Groom November 4, 2015

    Honesty or not is not a concern of those fellow travellers who hang on his every word.

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  15. yabbed November 4, 2015

    Donald Trump is a different variety of animal. He’s basically not a politician so his lies are totally different from, say, Jeb’s lies. They come at this from different mindsets. For Trump, it’s about him. He’s a NYer and he talks and acts like a NYer. It’s his ego talking, his I’m The Greatest routine talking. The others are politicians and they lie in a totally different way and for different reasons. I think part of Trump’s appeal to the great unwashed is the same as Bernie Sanders. They are goofballs and so are extremist voters. We shouldn’t get so worked up over either one of them. They aren’t going to be President of the United States. They are just whacko diversions.

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