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Hey, Fox Pundits! How Blatant Must The Anti-Obama Racism Be?

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Hey, Fox Pundits! How Blatant Must The Anti-Obama Racism Be?

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I have a question for George Will.

If he can’t answer it, maybe Brit Hume can. Both men were recently part of a panel on Fox News Sunday to which moderator Chris Wallace posed this question: Has race played a role in the often-harsh treatment of President Obama and Attorney General Eric Holder? Wallace was reacting to a clip of Holder strongly hinting that a testy encounter with House Republicans was part of a pattern of race-based abuse of himself and the president.

Some of the panelists framed their answers in political dimensions, i.e., what does this mean for the midterms? But Hume and Will responded directly.

Has race played a part? Heck no.

Said Hume: “This strikes me as kind of crybaby stuff from Holder. My sense about this is that both Eric Holder and Barack Obama have benefited politically enormously from the fact that they are African-American and the first to hold the jobs that they hold.”

“Look,” added Will, “liberalism has a kind of Tourette’s Syndrome these days. It’s just constantly saying the word ‘racism’ and ‘racist.’ It’s an old saying in the law: If you have the law on your side, argue the law, if you have the facts on your side, argue the facts. If you have neither, pound the table. This is pounding the table.”

And here, let us remove Holder from the equation because, frankly, the question I’m here to ask is more pertinent to his boss than him. I just wish Messrs. Will and Hume would explain one thing:

You say race has played no role in the treatment of President Obama? Fine. What would it look like if it did?

I mean, we’re talking about a president who was called “uppity” by one GOP lawmaker, “boy” by another and “subhuman” by a GOP activist; who was depicted as a bone-through-the-nose witch doctor by opponents of his health care reform bill; as a pair of cartoon spook eyes against a black backdrop by an aide to a GOP lawmaker, and as an ape by various opponents; who has been dogged by a “Tea Party” movement whose earliest and most enthusiastic supporters included the Council of Conservative Citizens, infamous for declaring the children of interracial unions “a slimy brown glop”; who was called a liar by an obscure GOP lawmaker during a speech before a joint session of Congress; who has had to contend with a years-long campaign of people pretending there is some mystery about where he was born.

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Leonard Pitts Jr.

Leonard Pitts Jr. is a nationally syndicated commentator, journalist, and novelist. Pitts' column for the Miami Herald deals with the intersection between race, politics, and culture, and has won him multiple awards including a Pulitzer Prize in 2004.

The highly regarded novel, Freeman (2009), is his most recent book.

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  1. Independent1 April 21, 2014

    Is anyone reading this article surprised by the answers Hume and Will gave?? Coming from two pathological liars who work for Faux News??? Would anyone really expect them to own up to the truth?? I certainly wouldn’t???

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    1. Jambi April 21, 2014

      They’re “Conservative Closet Clowns” who need that Faux teleprompter in front of their faces to make them feel important and “listened to” by the ignorant masses…

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    2. FredAppell April 21, 2014

      Not surprised at all! Roger Ailes got his start in T.V. as a young producer so he knows that controversy builds audiences. People love drama and FAUX manages to supply a heavy dose everything their viewers could ever want.

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      1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

        I was taught very early on, any “dose” that came from a bottle with a skull and crossbones on it, was to be avoided at all costs. 🙂

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        1. FredAppell April 21, 2014

          Me too Russell, some people never learn from being told though. I guess they need to figure it out the hard way (if ever). By the way, your war of words with Angelsinca was epic. He was right about one thing though, I can’t speak for anyone else on this forum but I am pretty radical. I simply choose to tone down my comments out of respect to the others. I don’t wish to further inflame the trolls, in turn causing everyone else to constantly defend themselves from baseless attacks. In short, I am almost everything the right-wing accuses the rest of you of being except racism.

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          1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Well put Fred. My only ideas though, run to the fact that angel actually wants to shutdown conversation. In fact, very emphatically “facts,” angel told me directly several years ago he is just here to “shut down these blogs,” and he came to “educate” us. Recently, he made the remark to the effect that his behavior was NOT a big deal. Why? Because, after all, these are “just minor liberal blogs.” Angel is in fact certifiably insane, but this is what he does for entertainment. No, NO, this is what gives him purpose in life. So, my friend, when he runs someone off, he is only encouraged to keep doing it.

            Have you ever seen how angel treats anyone that agrees to his nonsense after arguing with him. He goes on a kick of telling them what took them so long, and why were they so stupid they did not know he was right. I know, I fell in that trap years back, and have been blasting him ever since. Have you seen him thank posters for quitting the discussion, or lecturing others about their stupidity in disagreeing with his “obvious” (un)truth. I have. That is why I go at him as I do.

            What you may not understand, is what you cannot see. Almost everyone of these conversations starts with angel filling my inbox with posts from a dead blog. Angel has blocked his history, so no one can trail him. Or at least he thinks. Every Teatard troll I’ve seen does so. A couple even admitted that they did so out of fear. Believe that. I go in the lion’s cage and stick a burr in the lion’s butt, and then I cannot figure out why he might try to bite my head off.

            An article like this is a dead giveaway for finding angel. This subject will bring his racist crap out of the sewer every time. Really, we are not only dealing with the bottom of the gene pool, but the most mentally unstable amongst us. Most of these people, in my varied experience, are total failures at life, have pitiful if any job, no real friends, and if they have a lover, they run them off in short order. What they have in abundance are blame for and lies about others.

            Well, sorry, I have preached enough.

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          2. FredAppell April 21, 2014

            Don’t apologize Russell, you said what was on your mind. I wish I had your aggressiveness but I’m as tame as I sound but my politics, and personal feelings are way outside the mainstream. I’ve actually been called a walking contradiction because my beliefs are all over the place.

            I almost fell into the same trap with Angelsinca last year, it was my first and only encounter with him. Neither one of us gave in but we ended it amicably.
            You on the other have a silver toungue and I enjoy reading your comments.

            It’s getting late but if you would like to continue this tomorrow, I’m more than happy to. If not than I’ll catch up with you some other time. It’s all good!

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          3. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Fred, I shouldn’t say this because angel will love it, or he thinks he will love it until I give him some more of my _____ . But I am not a very assertive man. I can be a crazy, humorous cut-up amongst friends, but I am extremely shy. I got poor grades in several high school classes because I could not get in front of the class and speak. I would tell the teacher that I did not bother to do the work, instead. On the other hand, when pushed too far, I had a fearsome reputation in school. Maybe, that is a trait that I exhibit now. Yet, I watched so many bullies at work on other classmates, myself NOT included, and it outraged my sense of decency. So, to be brief, over the years I have learned to stand up to these people on behalf of others. On the job, in the community, and in my own family. I am a slow starter, but a hard finisher. I have the added advantage with angel, for instance, as “it” is totally ignorant and a total bully, disruptor, troll, and liar. I am a very moral man that has no qualms about bashing what I see as evil.

            Sorry, if I did a poor job of explaining, but at least that explains some of it. I guess confession is good for the soul. This is in no way meant to disparage any else, and certainly not you, but I wish more of us would stand up to angel. Our reluctance is why angel enjoys being here, and my ability to out-wit and make a fool of angel are the reasons he despises me so. Anyway, I am always apologizing. It is my nature and like my long-winded explanations, is due to my not wanting to upset innocent people with my roughness.

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          4. FredAppell April 22, 2014

            Nonsense, you did an excellent job of explaining. You’re humble with those you trust and you also managed to develop strong observational skills along the way. Your past mirrors my own in many ways. I’m short so that always made me a target for bullying but I learned how to fight and I was into working out so by High school I had put on about 20 pounds of muscle which leveled the playing field. I started to adopt a crazy persona and purposely would display it to as many people as possible. I too was a terrible student which ultimately led to my expulsion. I feel as though my actions have set me back by years intellectually as a consequence. When I was 19 I had a best friend who taught me that it was best for me to leave the physical aggression behind and try to develop my mind instead. To this very day I have faithfully pursued that goal and I’m still evolving. At 34 I took adult education classes in pursuit of my GED and aced it, that finally gave me the validation that I had sought since I was little.

            When you post comments in the style that you do,
            saying the things you say, you come off so differently than your self description but it is both noble and appreciated. I’m a bit of a diplomat so if I can learn to be as assertive as you are than I believe it will serve me well. You have those skills, I’ve read hundreds of your posts to allies and enemies alike so I know through your words that your convictions are strong. Good work my friend!

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          5. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            Congratulations Fred, you have done what many only dream about. Embarassingly, I was 49 when I received my undergrad degree and 55 when I received my Master’s. I did not have much opportunity when I was young, and I squandered what I did have. I was technically the top in my class in “raw” intelligence (IQ), but I was a rather off and on kind of student. When I was motivated and not being degraded, I was an “A” student, but I was not so good when I was not. More than once, I got an A in a class and then an F the next grading period. I never was bullied much, but I saw a lot of it, and frankly, it is the one kind of behavior that I would commit violence to stop, (if it wouldn’t land me in jail). I think the main reason I did not get bullied much was I was very shy and quiet. In other words, rather insignificant. An invisible man with flaming red hair. Go figure. AND for some reason, I had a reputation for being a potential killer in a fight. I did fight like a mad man. I would have bitten several guys arms off, if they had not run away. I think you understand what I mean. “Mean” is the key word here. To survive, you had to get crazy mean. As well, I had several of the biggest football stars as old friends from elementary school. That probably helped keep the bullies away, though I never had any friends personally intervene for me. As well, I might have been smart, but I was really too stupid to ask for help, anyway. So I had a fairly good time through school, though I do understand what you went through. It is all too common and all so unnecessary. Bullies should be horse whipped, and I must admit, why I go over the top sometimes dealing with them in these blogs. I know I am not being very humble, so I am sorry, but I have always been better at looking after the affairs of other people, than my own.

            I hope you are doing well in life, particularly since you finished school a little late, but I think the maturity that we attain, by being non-traditional students gives us a great advantage. Too many young college grads have no sense of direction.

            Fred, I probably sound kind of stupid, as I am rather tired, so I am going to sign off and take a shower. I enjoyed this post of yours. That is the kind of post I actually came here to read and enjoy. Posts like yours are exactly what the bullying trolls are here to deprive of us, and that is why I hate them so much. Anyway, If I do not have an inbox full of BS, I am calling it a night. Rest well.

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          6. idamag April 23, 2014

            You shouldn’t be embarrassed about the time it took you to get your masters. You got it and some of the trolls on these boards don’t sound like they have a high school diploma.

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          7. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            Thanks. Some of our trolls seem to have gotten their “high school” out of the end of a crack pipe.

            Well, with a Master’s degree, I now have the privilege of doing a job that a G.E.D. holder is qualified for. How the puny have risen! Such is life. 🙂

            Thanks again.

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          8. FredAppell April 23, 2014

            I agree with idamag, you accomplished something that I only toiled with intermittently… I’m not really interested in a higher education. I have difficulties with concentration so I’m a slow learner. I am inquisitive however, I’d much rather learn from life though.

            The time I had in High School was a blast. By the middle of my freshmen year I spent very little time in class, I got in a lot of trouble and wore that badge with honor. Looking back, it was the worst thing I could have done to myself but I don’t have regrets, instead, I have fond memories that still put a smile on my face. I did have friends, lot’s of friends, we all looked out for one another. I didn’t get bullied in High School or Middle School, Elementary School was a different story. I too detest bullying but I truly don’t understand how children today use suicide as a solution, I just don’t think they are as tough as kids used to be and that troubles me. They lack the fortitude to handle a crisis, maybe that’s our fault, but it is turning into a national epidemic and most adults simply refuse to acknowledge it. All the laws that have been enacted are pointless if we as a people refuse to open our eyes and teach our children otherwise. I can only hope that maturity changes the equation because the bullies and the bullied will be running the nation one day. Yikes!

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          9. idamag April 22, 2014

            Fred, if you are a walking contradiction because your ideas are all over the place, it tells me at least you can thing for yourself and are not a programmed group thinker who needs a group to think for them. Keep up the good work.

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          10. FredAppell April 22, 2014

            idamag, I can’t tell you how much your kind words mean to me. I work very hard at trying to find the truth
            and your encouragement helps to keep me on that path, thank you.

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          11. angelsinca April 23, 2014

            Russell Byrd wrote “My only ideas though, run to the fact that angel actually wants to shutdown conversation. In fact, very emphatically “facts,” angel told me directly several years ago he is just here to “shut down these blogs,”

            Well, Russell. What you describe as ‘fact’ is your opinion. You ought to remove the quotes from the paraphrased opinion. It distorts the truth. Your opinion is not truth, no matter how many times you repeat it.

            You haven’t ‘known’ me for ‘several years’. You obviously don’t even know me now. You can’t even confirm the gender. What you don’t know about me or others, you extrapolate from imagination into the persona you want to hate. You continue to develop that character into something that wanders further from the truth every time you assign your false attributes to it.

            I do not want to ‘shut down’ conversation. Period. Repeating that LIE doesn’t make it fact.

            I have NEVER said, as you quote, that I intend to ‘shut down these blogs’. Never.

            To say I have ever ‘filled your inbox’ Is another lie. The truthful timeline usually goes like this; You make an offensive comment to me or someone else. I respond, usually in protest. You responmd with 3 to 5 rapid fire posts amping up the insults. I reply and defend again. You reply with escalating verbal abuses. I defend. You attack. I defend. I leave. You continue to attack with lies. I return to defend. See the pattern yet?

            Lately, you continue the harassing overtones and condemnation of ‘angels’ to third and fourth parties, fanning your contrived reality with nothing more than repeated vitriolic opinion.

            I would like to see your brand of hate subside long enough to see honest communication grow. Kind of like the exchange you had with FredAppell. When you aren’t hating on conservatives, you are actually pleasant. Unfortunately for everyone, this is a rare occasion.

            If history is an indicator, you will likely dismiss everything I just wrote as lies. Too bad. You are everything you repeatedly accuse others of being. The bright side is that it’s never too late to change. As a bit of advice, every time you assign a derogatory pet name to the new people you pounce on in these blogs, you aren’t funny or cute. You are only presenting yourself as a dick.

            As I ignore you for an indeterminate time, it isn’t due to, as you say, ‘cowardice’. It’s unhealthy to be around you. Peace.

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          12. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            What I describe you lying piece of garbage is EXACTLY what you said. And proudly you said it, as well.

            Now you even have to lie about how long you have been around. Why do you bother wasting the bandwidth. EVERYONE KNOWS YOU LIE. And you know that I will answer you lies until you give up and run away, like you always do.

            What is wrong with you is you are a sociopath. Add to that paranoia and delusions of grandeur. You are always “hurt,” so you always have to run your mouth to prove you are something that you cannot be.

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          13. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            FU, you ignore me because you are a coward. For instance, you blocked all your history, so you could not be followed, and so you could snipe on people with impunity. Like you fled like a bat out of Hell the other night, you learned the hard way that you are EASY to find. You just can’t take what you dish out.

            Once again, I challenge ANYONE else in this blog to say who is causing the problems here and who is the SOB that is running people off. You are not really crazy, but you do have a sick way of entertaining yourself. You have a history of disrupting conversations that have nothing to do with you and your hate. For what purpose? Everyone already knows you are just here to disrupt other people’s rights for your own sick enjoyment.

            Otherwise, why don’t you really tell the truth for once about why you are here?

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          14. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            There is nothing “unhealthy” about being around me. Look around you, I do not have altercations with anyone that is not disrupting and bullying. In other words, in these “minor liberal blogs,” as you call them, designed for the “minor” liberal posters, reading the “minor” liberal articles, and making “minor” liberal comments, we have remarkably little contention with sh*t like you is not present.

            So, why do you come to a minor liberal blog, when you hold it in such contempt? You could be in the “major a**hole right-wacko blogs.”

            You for all appearances, do not read the articles.
            Supported by the fact that you never post on-topic.
            You make confirmed false claims.
            You pick fights and bully the regular “minor liberal posters,” even when they try to ignore you.

            You claimed you were here to “educate” and “shut these blogs down.” WHY ELSE are you here?

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          15. angelsinca April 23, 2014

            You attack people for being here. You attack people for leaving here. Make up your mind. Or just do what an attack dog always does and lick your own balls

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          16. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            No angelstench, I only attack abusive trolls for being here. It is you and your kind, that comes here to attack, attack, attack, until you have driven everyone away in despair. I am only here to scoop up your lies and shit, package it up r-e-a-l purdy, and stuff it right back down your throat. That is the truth, and has always been the truth.

            In my earlier post I alluded to what is going to happen to you eventually. I will bear my soul a little and point out that, by and large, people like you are why I lost all faith in God. I cannot believe He created pure filth like you, let vermin like you crawl along the Earth, and then tolerate your using His name in a blasphemous manner by claiming to be His follower. YET, and this is my point, when I had faith, and if I do, or ever have again, I would expect to be headed to the lowest pit of Hell, if I acted like you. I am serious, you have no chance at paradise, and exactly as Jesus and others predicted, you see no reason to behave for no other reason than your arrogant hardheartedness. You have no common decency, and certainly no Christian charity nor any Christian caring for any other person in the world. In that respect, my faith may revive, because I am certain that very soon, you will irrevocably be somewhere unpleasant for all eternity.

            So, for the foreseeable future, you are going to get a totally free ride. Mark Forsythe very kindly requested that I refrain from trying to divert the sewage away from the blog. He firmly believes that things will get better if you trolls are tolerated. Yet, I know very well that why you hate me so, is entirely due to the fact that you are unable to get the nurturing hate that you so thrive on when you are allowed to freely do what you will. He misses that what gives you the most pleasure is bullying and disrupting people that do not fight back. Simply put, I make you work too hard for almost no reward at all. That drives you up the proverbial wall.

            So, from this moment, until everyone is gone as you wish, and the blog is shutdown as you desire, I will not trouble you further until I get the “green” light from the other posters.

            Just a closing reminder, you lost the low turnout vote 4 to zip. I even had several people scared that I was leaving. My point here is, it is not I that have always been unwelcome, and it is not I that has been abusing and driving people away. So feel free to demonstrate that magnanimous Christian conscience for everyone to see.

            Ciao, you dirty little bugger.

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          17. angelsinca April 23, 2014

            R. Byrd wrote: “I am certain that very soon, you will irrevocably be somewhere unpleasant for all eternity.

            For someone that has forsaken God, you seem to be armed with a scary amount of retribution there, sport. I don’t appreciate your threat. But maybe law enforcement will.

            Since we are coming ‘clean’ (I’ve always been honest despite your faulty, flaky assertions otherwise), when I filed a report with the FBI earlier this week after you threatened me for the third time, they reviewed your threats and did reply in a matter of hours. They said that since their focus is on the 2.8 million tips of domestic terrorism, I should contact my local PD if I fear for the safety of myself and my family.

            And now, with a another threat like the one above, I am compelled to pursue actions against you. Please tell me you only made this latest threat as a feeble act of condemnation and not as a threat to my life. I’d rather not have to go out of my way and take time off work for a deranged blogger.

            Either way, now that we have reached this new level, i really ought to steer clear of you. I tried to stay away this time, but YOU saught me and injected yourself where you didn’t belong in order to harass and disparage me. Based on what you have written, if given the opportunity, you seem to have the capacity to do further harm beyond the verbal assaults you normally practice here.

            Maybe you are just a steaming pile of false threat. Maybe not.

            Why the sys admins here haven’t shut you down remains a mystery. Maybe they grew up in reddit where idle threats are commonplace. I grew up in the real world where threats like yours usually result in serious circumstance. Let’s hope you are just that special little cupcake I see every once in a wile peeking out from behind a faux bad-ass curtain. One can only hope. Suggest you back away. Bye for now.

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          18. Russell Byrd April 24, 2014

            Since you think I will keep my promises, unlike yourself, I guess I will have to surprise you some.

            You have forsaken God. You speak hate and lies in his name. You destroy the faith and well-being of others with your lies and bullying.

            And even you would not be stupid enough to call the FBI and face hundreds of charges of harassment. They are not going to care to prosecute anyone but you after they see what you have been doing. More correctly, you will not have any excuse, because you will still be doing it.

            Fuck you and your imaginary family. Probably, your son the felon is the only person that will even talk to you. And I would bet you have a felony jacket too. You have the exact mentality of a sociopathic criminal.

            So, go ahead and prove Mark wrong, and prove me right. You are already running wild just like I said you would.

            Trolls like you do not get excited when someone resists, you get mad. What you really want is an easy ride to hurt as many people as you can. Everyone NEEDS to stand up to you, because laying down just gives you all the free kicks you want.

            I think I should contact your local P.D. as soon as I figure out where you are. You not only have threatened me in the past, BUT I FEAR ANY FAMILY YOU MIGHT HAVE IS IN DANGER FROM YOU.

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          19. angelsinca April 24, 2014

            ‘Fuck ME and my family’? No, fuck you Russell. I tried to caution you, but your arrogance and stupidity just got in the way. I’d really feel bad for you (and me) if you were the pimply faced 16 yr old you come across as. But as an adult, there is no excuse. So long, cupcake.

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          20. Russell Byrd April 24, 2014

            How is it, when you are given a perfect opportunity for peace, you double up the pace of your lies and abuse. I told this very thing to Mark. I know you like the back of my hand. Ignoring you just let’s your sick mind have more time to fantasize about all the stress and disruption you can cause.

            And you have lied again. I told you directly that I think that family is imaginary, just to be used to make a scene that makes me look bad. BUT. since you lie all the time, I do not believe you have one. SO. I am telling you to go fuck yourself, same as you have told me before. And, I EXPLAINED, if you really do have a family, then THEY ARE IN DANGER FROM YOU. You really do need to be locked up for your and all of our protection. You cannot account for your actions. There is no explanation except you are either an evil criminal, or criminally insane.

            And one final thing. YOU CLAIMED TO FILE AN FBI REPORT WHEN? YOU FILED THE REPORT BEFORE I MADE THE STATEMENT TONIGHT, THAT YOU FALSELY TURNED IN ON THE REPORT.

            YOU TURNED ME IN FOR SAYING SOMETHING I HADN’T SAID AND WHAT I SAID WAS NOT THE THREAT YOU MADE IT OUT TO BE ANYWAY!

            I am praying you really did do it, because you are history. Of course, sadly, we both know you were and are, just lying again. I wish we had kept count of your lies for the Guinness Book. At lying you may not be very good, but your volume of work is world champion quality.

            So, do not doubt that a number of reports will be filed starting tomorrow. I am not the problem here, you are, and I am going to have some peace, free from your disgusting stench.

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          21. Russell Byrd April 24, 2014

            The sys admins haven’t shut me down because I am only reacting to your bullying, trolling, and lies. What amazes me is your brazen, criminal attitude. Yes, you are a criminal and I bet you taught it to your son. One look at this “minor liberal blog,” and they will know what the problem is.

            When you were a kid, did you ever take one of those observation tests. Where you look for what doesn’t fit.

            Well, this is a liberal blog, I am a liberal, you are not.
            I do not harass any liberals, you harass them all.
            I do not need lies, all you do is lie.
            When left alone, I make pleasant conversation, you do not.
            And especially, when trolls are missing, I only make on-topic posts, you never do.

            Who doesn’t fit in that puzzle. We both know the answer, but a crazy as it will sound to FBI, LEO, Admin, or moderators, you will lie about it anyway. I guess because you have the heart and mind of a criminal. Just like this harassing post because you think you now have carte blanche to do as you please. But look out, that IS prosecutable these days. Have fun, dick head.

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          22. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            As far as lies are concerned, right-wackos in general, and you in particular, have taught, er, eh, “educated” me in one important respect.

            That at the core of everything you trolls say, and everything you do, is a lie. Regardless, of how much sh*t someone has to dig through, how much sewage you have to wade through, there will be a lie at the bottom of the filth.

            Thanks to you, and yours, I received that epiphany.

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          23. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            I accuse you of lying, why?

            Because almost every word you utter is one. Face the reality of this, tell the truth, then I cannot accuse. Do you understand.

            You also “educated” me in the reality that you feel the right to break the Ninth Commandment with impunity, because you must get your evil way every time.

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          24. angelsinca April 23, 2014

            “…you will likely dismiss everything I just wrote as lies”

            Nailed it.

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          25. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            Yes, you did, but all you have to do to not get caught, is not tell the lies! 🙂

            LIKE I SAID, you cannot stop. Posting your sh*t at me, but addressing it into the wind, does not keep your so-called promise of ignoring me. And this “big wind” is going to blow back a face full of your won sh*t right at you. You cannot even help lying to yourself. Very sad, very sick.

            I would say that you should get some medication, but there is none for a constant, consistent Ninth Commandment breaker. And I believe pathological lying is one of the most impossible traits for a psychoanalyst to cure. So I guess we are all doomed to suffer through your BS, including yourself.

            By the way, a good lobotomy WOULD do the trick.
            🙂

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          26. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            Third and fourth parties. What is wrong with your head. You have to tell nonsensical lies to impress me? You know you cannot do that. Oh, yeah, it is your need to impress your ignorance on people.

            I bet you cannot even resist your little sick urges to reply to me on these posts. You cannot even tell yourself the truth and you have proved that many times.

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          27. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            Opinion? If you had a soul and any decency, Christian or otherwise, you would be in a state of absolute fear. Before you whine again about threats like the little whiny b*tch you are, I am not the one you should fear.

            As for quotes, I can prove every word. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT!

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          28. angelsinca April 23, 2014

            Let’s see the proof than, liar. Please explain what you mean by “absolute fear”. Fear for my safety, from you? lol. Cupcake, you have no idea.

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          29. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            At least now, you have inadvertently admitted that you are not a Christian at all. Do you mean that, after even being warned, that you cannot figure out that I am talking about God?

            Please answer a question? Not for me, I do not even want to hear another of your lies. Answer this for yourself. Do you consider your behavior to be acceptable enough to God for Him to allow you a glorious eternity?

            Since I have promised not to worry you further, but unfortunately for both of us, this post was left unfinished, I am finishing it now, and then I am done, . . . for now.

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          30. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            Pick a place and a time, give me a verifiable address so I know you will show up, then I will show you once and for all that your big shit talk doesn’t mean squat, and that I really do have all the ideas. Like all my offers, I an honest, serious, and the offer is permanent. Even through this glorious gift of a time out period for you. . . . ANYTIME you actually find some stones, limp wrist.

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          31. angelsinca April 24, 2014

            “I will show you once and for all that your big shit talk doesn’t mean squat.”

            Thanks for the heads up, tough guy. This is why you shouldn’t expose personal details on the internet. We have to protect ourselves from deranged bloggers with inflated self worth that are hell bent on correcting perceived injustices. Especially when they have weapons. Anymore bright ideas?

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    3. dave April 21, 2014

      The sad part is these two used to be highly respected,not sure why they had to descend into the faux news cesspool ?? I will not name
      a few others who have done the same thing. Went from being ‘real’ reporters and newspeople to faux ‘news’ repeaters. Someone tells a lie, the next faux ‘news’ repeater ‘ echoes it a couple times,the next thing you know the first liar is quoted as a source,repeat,repeat,re- peat.

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      1. angelsinca April 23, 2014

        They remain highly respected, despite sincere attempts by those like yourself to destroy them.

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  2. gmccpa April 21, 2014

    The answer is simple. To Foxbots and the like….there is no longer such a thing as racism.

    Of all the ridiculousness that comes from the RW, what they are really best at, is DENIAL. Racism = Race Card. ACA statistics = Cooked books. Polls = Unskewed polls. Pre civil rights days = the good old days. etc. Deny. Deny. Deny. Throw in a dash of feigned religion….and you have a major political party.

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    1. idamag April 21, 2014

      After the passage of the Civil Rights Act, racism played low key for awhile. Now, after the election of a president who is of a different race, the virulent haters are becoming more overt. Before they pat themselves on the back because they managed to get themselves born Caucasian, they might consider why there are different shades of the same color. The shade of our skin is due to how much melanin is in it. We are all the same color, just different shades. In the Songs of Solomon, it says, “Look not upon me because I am Black, Oh Lord, I am Black because the sun has looked upon me.” I took that to mean that the darker shades are protective coloring where people are exposed to the sun more.,

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      1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

        There is not a white person alive that pats themselves on the back for being Caucasian. What a stupidly racist assertion. Strange how all this rampant racism somehow laid dormant for fifty years and that a president of color somehow awakened it. The only thing that awoke in the past six years are the accusations from the left concerning the supposed racism of the right. Before you ignite the fires of racial tension, please try to first ascertain that the harbingers of racism aren’t the accusers.

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        1. idamag April 21, 2014

          I don’t consider you have the attributes, needed, for me to have a discourse with you, but you can’t really be that stupid, can you? Instead of dropping stuff out of your mouth and expecting it to be regarded as wise words, do some research. It is all over the internet. Not opinions, but those hate groups words and their sites. If we know where the fire hazard is we can avoid a conflagration. This is a provable fact: When Obama was elected white supremist groups doubled in the United States. I belong to te Southern Poverty Law Center and they keep a watch on hate groups and send out quarterlies with facts. They send out pictures of these cretins who lead these groups. They all resemble the picture of the man who started killing Jewish people and yelling, “Heil hitler.” Use your search engine to research the ayran nations, war, and a bunch of other hate groups. Type in “White Supremist” and find out how many groups you can join.See how viral they become. I wonder, if in pre-nazi Germany there were people who claimed racism did not exist.

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          1. CamCubed April 21, 2014

            Thank you. I’m tired of conservatives pretending racism is passe and that any continued talk of it will “just fan the flames back up”. In reality, they’re simply trying to sweep the dirt under the rug and pretend everything’s hunky-dory so they can go back to business-as-usual, which involves pretending that institutionalized racism and micro-aggressive behaviors don’t exist, don’t alienate minorities, and don’t reduce (if not eliminate) the OPPORTUNITIES we’re all supposed to have. They want their hierarchical old America back, where everyone “knew their place” and didn’t get uppity.

            They take the same stance on class, in large part because class and race are linked — for the very reasons they wish to ignore.

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          2. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Keep looking for the good racist fight. You might actually find one someday. After two generations of civil rights and racial equality re-education, most people actually now ‘get it’ that racism isn’t cool. But please don’t let that stop you from turning back the clock on those fifty years of progress. At least go watch Blazing Saddles and Django Unchained one more time, please.

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          3. CamCubed April 21, 2014

            “But please don’t let that stop you from turning back the clock on those fifty years of progress.”

            Stop proving us right, dingbat. I say you’re trying to sweep it under the carpet by claiming “progress has worked and it’s all gone now” and then you turn around and rebut by…sweeping it under the carpet. Herrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpy-derp.

            Just because we’re -less- racist than we were 50 years ago doesn’t mean we’re not significantly still racist. Fifty years ago they were less racist than they were 150 years ago. There IS progress. But pretending everything is better now is how progress comes to a grinding halt…or even wheels backwards. Because talking about a problem doesn’t make it worse. Ignoring it does.

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          4. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Look out, angelstench is firing up another lying post. Too bad it is so slow.

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          5. idamag April 22, 2014

            Her reply, to me, about the SPLC firing up hate shows me what he, she, or they is or are. This is, in all probability, a hate group.

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          6. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            It’s ability to tell bold-face lies amazes even me. I am a man that dealt with liars and thieves and general scumbags for years, but I have never met an ‘”angel” from Hell before.

            I see and agree with your conclusion. Even if I were of that disagreeable an attitude, it would be hard to argue against the obvious. I think that little blurb is important because that is exactly what angel does, all the time. You “hit the nail on the head,” again. Have a good night.

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          7. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Yes, I am too stupid to have discourse with you. What a complete and utter putz you are. The SPLC creates more hate than it claims to disperse:
            http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Southern_Poverty_Law_Center

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          8. CamCubed April 21, 2014

            ROFL. You’re linking metapedia? Why not just paint a Swastika on your forehead? Err…well, make it your avatar at least. lulz.

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          9. idamag April 22, 2014

            This hell’s angel probably already has a tattoo.

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          10. Independent1 April 22, 2014

            Yes, I am too stupid to have discourse with you.

            You finally posted something that’s the truth; and you don’t even know it. Like most conservatives, your IQ is probably not much higher than your age. Yup! Studies have proven that on average, conservatives are conservative because they have low IQs.

            If you don’t believe that, see this study from LiveScience:

            Low IQ & Conservative Beliefs Linked to Prejudice

            http://www.livescience.com/18132-intelligence-social-conservatism-racism.html

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        2. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

          The BS alarms are screaming angelstench warnings all across the nation. How can anyone lie as willfully AND with the volume that you do???

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          1. dave April 21, 2014

            Typical right winger/tper,ignore the problem when asked about it. Use it to your advantage when no-bodies looking. Don’t admit to the attitudes and lack of civility unless someone got it on VIDEO !!!

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          2. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            I am far from perfect, but at all times I aim to tell the truth to the best of my abilities. The T’pers always lie about just about everything. When that fails they just bully until their opposition can’t stand it anymore. I my experience, every (literally) talking point, idea, or fact that a Teathuglicon spouts off about, has a lie at its core. You might have to dig through layers of crap, or wade in raw sewage, but you will always find a lie.

            I think what really sets us apart from the Teanderthals is we adjust our thinking based on the facts, they adjust the facts to fit their thinking. Simply put, adjusting facts all the time leads to lying all the time..

            Oh, ROTFL, I disagree with one of your points. If a video catches them red-handed, they just claim the tape is fake. After all, that is what they would do. 🙂 Have a good evening, dave!

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          3. dave April 21, 2014

            Yeah,what would have happened if romney’s 47% wasn’t on video ?? Would it just be a rumor that people heard from others ??

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          4. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            You are so right. They practically tried to deny it with it ON tape. Liars never can see a reason to stop lying.

            Of course, what made me angry the most, is he should have said the “80%.” If it weren’t for a jaded and disaffected electorate, worn down by Rethug lies for the last 135 years, which has reached a fever pitch since Rob’em Raygun got elected, then the right-wackos would not have any chance at all. I would describe the average American as having “electoral” PTSD. Which is exactly what the Teatard think tanks intend. . . . So, I think Romney was just talking about 15-20% of the population that he cannot corrupt. Minus those that opt out, he might have gotten lucky to get 47% of the true numbers of voters. Fortunately, these arrogant butt holes got, as we used to say, er, eh, ‘sh*t shocked. Thank God for Obama.

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          5. idamag April 22, 2014

            And if it was on video, it was a plant.

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        3. dave April 21, 2014

          Strange,not hardly. Just the result of small minded people who don’t like how ‘our’ president looks or how he thinks. Clean the crap out of your ears and listen to HOW people describe obama,from the right and left. Respect for who he is,[the president],is obvious from the left. Dislike,outright hatred and distortion of who he is and where he’s from is always a priority of those on the right.

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          1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Well said dave. The Right could have used this Pep Talk eight years ago to defend Bush against the same. Thanks for the hygienic concern, but I keep the ear canals crystal clear.

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    2. dave April 21, 2014

      Just like the ‘old’ south ??

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  3. disqus_ivSI3ByGmh April 21, 2014

    Leonard, they could probably have had Michelle Malkin, C. Thomas Sowell, Herman Cain and Allen West and it still would have been an “all-white” panel. Just think of what it would have been like had Condi Rice or Colin Powell been on the panel. Then just imagine the backstepping on the part of Will and Hume.

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    1. idamag April 21, 2014

      Really, their tokens weren’t invited?

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  4. DorothyGrissom April 21, 2014

    Slightly humorous comments. Mostly pathetic. One sees what one wants to see. And Liberals see racism in the slightest criticism Obama or Holder receives, whether deserved or not, simply as a means to shut people up. Liberals conveniently forget how they treated previous republican Presidents and Attorney Generals. As the old adage goes, “Don’t dish it out if you can’t take it.” So, your comments sound a lot like whining to me.

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    1. pisces63 April 21, 2014

      completely idiotic statement, here. As a black woman, 65, upper middle class, i take exception to what you wrote. Why? Since the day after the 2008 election, white people have whined, we want our country back. Racist. Bull Connor, sorry, Mitch McConnell was on TV early that morning while I got ready for work, ranting how they would NEVER work with him and NEVER allow anything he does succeed. They have done just that. When he wanted to close Gitmor, the bigoted right defunded the move, then blamed him for not closing. When he tried to get a jobs bill, they voted it down and blamed him for no job. When Bush bailed out the banks, he was supported by both. When he started a bogus war with Iraq, he had help from both sides. When the patriot act was passed, they goosed stepped together. No one begged for their country back. No one lied on him as you bigots do such as a dumb ass at my job accused him of bailing out the banks. considering it happened in Oct. 5, 2008, that was a blatant lie. The worse? when the bigoted, dumb ass white parents took their children out of school just because a black president wanted them to stay in school. Show me the hits put out on Bush and his family as had been put out on this president and his family. On Paul’s site and others and nothing done. When did you EV ER see people carrying guns to a white president’s speech as they have done with this one. I could go one and on, not enough spacwe, here.

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      1. latebloomingrandma April 21, 2014

        So true, pisces. Many of us white people were so hopeful when Obama was elected, that maybe our country has turned a corner regarding racism. I finally recognized not so when people pulled their children out of school so they wouldn’t listen to the president’s address. That one put me into orbit. I could not imagine any other president addressing the students of the nation being so disrespected so early in his tenure.
        And some of the ugliest rhetoric in the blogosphere has been directed toward Mrs. Obama. The country fawned over Mrs. Kennedy and were so proud of her. Mrs. Obama has many of her qualities—so what could it possibly be??

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        1. idamag April 21, 2014

          Want to hear the epitome of racism? I live in the Northwest. If we hear someone make a racist remark, we look at them like they are nuts. But, in a small Mormon community whose borders now are against my city borders, The school superintendent of Idaho District 93 refused to play the President’s message to the school children. That was bad enough, but the lack of public outcry, in that community spoke volumes and was worse.

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      2. dave April 21, 2014

        Very sad to say you’re right. When i was growing up a neigh
        bor’s friend from nyc sent her 10 yr old black son to upstate ny. A friend of his had been killed waiting for a bus in his neighborhood and his mother wanted him to be safe..My two brothers and i became best friends with him and lived next door to each other for 3 yrs.The more time he spent in school and the more relaxed attitudes became,some actually started calling him names as a ‘joke’. I see the same attitude being excused by politicians as ‘normal’,lack of respect for another person is not ‘normal’!!!!!!

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    2. Paul Bass April 21, 2014

      Right wing whites ALWAYS SAY they are not racist, but their ACTIONS say otherwise.

      BTW, everybody, notice how these trolls always have a flag or “Captain America” as their icon? Ha-Ha, a REAL American would at least try to THINK before they post un-cited lies…

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      1. idamag April 21, 2014

        How does that saying go? “Your words, I cannot hear because your actions come through loud and clear.”

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        1. Paul Bass April 21, 2014

          Right Ida, thanks!

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      2. angelsinca April 21, 2014

        Didn’t notice any Cap’n America or Flags. Did notice a lot of shadowy silhouettes.

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    3. Grannysmovin April 21, 2014

      Please provide the list of Republican Presidents and Attorney Generals who have been called: Nazi, Hitler, Muslim, had an out house placed in front of an RNC event riddled with bullet holes and called President’s Library, or where photos of monkeys have been altered with the faces of the President and his family, or were called boy or uppity, or had confederate flags waved in front of their family’s home, or whose manhood has been questioned. Which Republican Presidents have had images of themselves hanging from a tree? Other Presidents have used executive orders more than this President, yet they were never called Dictators – why?????

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      1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

        ‘Other Presidents have used executive orders more than this President, yet they were never called Dictators – why?????’

        The ‘other presidents’ knew when to put aside the campaign rhetoric and lead ALL the people without continuing to demonize the losing side. Still waiting for that ‘UNITED States of America’ pledge. In the meantime we are all compelled to put up with conservative-hating rants we see here on this board and others directed at your neighbors, your family, your friends. We are divided.

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        1. Grannysmovin April 21, 2014

          How has he divided the people? It is conservative politicians who are riling up the bases about takers and makers, moochers. The conservative politicians are spewing hate, fear, dissention, disrespect. You still have not addressed why he is a considered a dictator when using less Executive Orders, neither addressed his being called other names, or the photos, or the out house riddled with bullets or the images of a black man hanging from a tree. Do you not read the liberal-hating rants or do you just ignore those. I was on a site the other day where a number of posters called for the death of liberals, others who claimed liberals should not be allowed to vote, others who call us the devil, morons. Here are just 2 conservative posters:

          2Cents2: Bleeding heart liberal get a f’n clue. Dont like it move the f— out of here and take your
          cesspool with you. If you have not figured it out by now as you think you are so smart, the majority of the people here in America DO NOT WANT YOU HERE! It’s folks like you that are preverting what was once a great nation.

          Archie Murter: And it is going to get worse, what the dem leftys do understand is that this has gone past politics. This has come to personal. I’m not sure why you leftys thought that you could continue to take more of our wages every year too use for your own ends or give them to the hanouters and expect us to like you. The attempts especially since Obama was elected have taken us to aplace, where we simply despise you people very personally.

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    4. idamag April 21, 2014

      Kind of near-sighted, are we? Proof of racism: The doubling of white supremist groups after Obama was elected. Some areas where you can research: Voting records under the past administrations. Example: Medicare was the joint effort of Teddy Kennedy (D) and Orin Hatch (R). If you wish to be really informed, start as far back as the Reagan Administration. It was common for legislation to get passed with bi-partisan support. This is the first time, in my life, that a committee chair turned off the microphone when it was time for opposing arguments. It is the first time a Republican legislator was shunned because he shook hands with the president. The president speaks to Congress and I watch the cameras pan the audience. I have never saw the disrespect. I saw John McCain, who I once admired, slowly putting his hands together with a smirk on his face. My other assignment to you so you will be informed as to what you are saying: Get a notebook. On the each left page, label it “Nasty things said by the left.” On the right page, label it: “Nasty things said by the Right.” Make sure you put in all the hate words. Then let’s discuss this in a couple of months.

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    5. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

      Speaking of pathetic, your memory qualifies very well.

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    6. idamag April 21, 2014

      How many times do I have to present proof or racism toward the president? If you are selective in what you read or listen to and this is against your biases, then it won’t do any good. The Southern Poverty Law Center who, keeps watch on hate groups, presented findings that white supremist groups doubled when Obama became president.

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    7. idamag April 22, 2014

      Like the above, I suggest you gather some facts. Go back to Reagan’s time forward and look at voting records. Get the public hateful rhetoric recorded in your journal and who said it. Look at how the nation responded to attacks on us versus now. See if you can find a Democrat leader who said, “The Democrats’ number one goal is to make (Nixon, Reagan, Bush) a one-term president.” See if you can find an incident when a Democrat shouted “liar” while a Republican president was speaking. When you have researched carefully, then let’s have a discussion. I don’t belong to a party, but I find the tp anti-government rhetoric reprehensible.

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    8. idamag April 22, 2014

      Oh, in addition, see if you can find an incident where a Democrat turned off the Microphone when it was the Republicans turn to speak.’

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  5. Dell Martin April 21, 2014

    What else are they going to say? “Yeah, I guess so…”? Nobody in public office or in the public eye is going to admit to racism. Their actions speak for them. I laugh when I hear them say “I’m not a racist! I have a black friend!” Really? Put that black friend in a position of authority over them and let’s see how benevolent they are. Of course it’s racism. Denial doesn’t change the facts.

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    1. idamag April 21, 2014

      And the Black friend is invited to their social circle and their childrens’ weddings?

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      1. dave April 21, 2014

        Probably for a photo op to prove they even ‘know’ a black person !!

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    2. Auntie Warhol April 21, 2014

      >Put that black friend in a position of authority over them and let’s see how benevolent they are

      In fact that’s exactly what they did with Michael Steele. And how did they reward him for their landslide victory in 2010? They fired him and gave the job to a white guy, whose job for some mysterious reason was safe after losing decisively in 2012.

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      1. stcroixcarp April 21, 2014

        As I remember, the GOP itself trashed Steele. They made the man look like a fool. I was surprised to find out how intelligent he is AFTER he was ousted from party leadership.

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      2. dave April 21, 2014

        Steele is one of the most intelligent people the reps have ever had on their side regardless of race !! Priebus is a joke and rove has been demoted to butt kisser. With Steele in charge the election in 2012 might have gone better for them !!

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        1. idamag April 22, 2014

          I listened to a talk by Michael Steele, once, and I was impressed. Priebus talks like a little boy who is lying to his mother. He doesn’t even open his mouth when he talks.

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          1. dave April 22, 2014

            When steele was in charge of the gop,you didn’t hear all this b.s. about women or minorities either. As soon as a white guy took over again thats ALL you hear.You gotta hand it to the repubs though
            they seem to be the party that NEVER LEARNS
            from past mistakes and continues to REPEAT them!

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    3. CamCubed April 21, 2014

      Anyone who defensively says “but I have black friends” or “I have gay friends” or whatever tends to be ignorant about how bigotry works. Many bigots despise an entire race or group of people, even after meeting and befriending a particular individual, who proves to be “the exception”. Such was the case with the Nazis, for example. Many of them had Jewish friends and sometimes even helped those Jews get out of Germany before the crackdown. But some of them still not only toed the anti-semitic party line, they pulled the trigger themselves. The case is also the same in this country during the heyday of slavery. A favorite slave was treated like a dear friend; all other slaves were “dumb youknowwhats”. And that hasn’t changed. It’s part of human nature — even among politics. Many a liberal can admit to having a conservative friend or relative that they love or respect, even as they condemn “conservatives for being so dumb”. And it works the other way, too.

      Of course, that’s not to lend any sense of validity to conservatism. I personally have no conservative friends. I like having friends I can talk to, not just go bowling with, and I can’t talk to conservatives. They’re way too narrow-minded and ideologically-fixated.

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      1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

        ‘Of course, that’s not to lend any sense of validity to conservatism.’

        Oh yeah, can’t have that. Having sat on both of the political fence, and lived through eleven presidents, I have found that the least tolerant and most narrow minded aren’t those on the right. Not by a lot.

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      2. idamag April 22, 2014

        To back up what you say: I belong to a social group. Several months ago,one of them said she was listening to Glen Beck and he scared the hell out of her. I said, “Don’t listen to Glen Beck, then.” Imediately, one, I shall call “G” said, “We don’t discuss politics.” Yesterday, at lunch, “G” said she couldn’t stand Michelle Obama and I asked why not and immediately, she said, “We don’t discuss politics.

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  6. Nick Rudolph April 21, 2014

    I feel that the FCC should institute an icon in the corner of the screen to notify viewers when people are less than truthful. Maybe a picture of a pair of pants on fire, as in the insurance commercial. At least some of the ill informed voters would be able to distinguish truths from the blatant lies on FIXED Bad Info Channel.

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    1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

      Excellent idea.

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    2. dave April 21, 2014

      How about a b.s. meter that has a moving arrow that points to the level of b.s at the time ?? Probably faux news could break it !!
      It would need to be calibrated to the highest level to keep up !!!

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  7. charleo1 April 21, 2014

    Sometimes, there’s no way to deny a thing. Are you going to believe me, or
    your lyin’ eyes, kind of thing. With today’s Right Wing, perhaps we should be encouraged they are at least trying to deny their prejudices. Small victories. With Obama, there is also a good deal of jealously, mixed with their racial aanimus. We Liberals think of him as a God. Or, “Our Messiah.” And if we see any racism in their disagreement, it’s proof beyond a doubt, we’re the racist. What would be worse is, if the Radical Righties supported President Obama. What would that say about the kind of President, about the kind of man he would need to be, to garner praise from this backwater bunch? Our greatest Presidents, along with some of the greatest leaders that ever lived, have been the most unmercifully maligned. Cartoonist often depicted Lincoln as an Ape. They threw Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. in jail, down in Birmingham. The Republican Party, 98% White, the base depicted on a map, mirrors the secessionist South, and FDR, often referred to as an Emperor, welcomed their scorn. I’d say, in this respect, our President is in some very good company.

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    1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

      “With Obama, there is also a good deal of jealously, mixed with their racial aanimus.”

      You clearly do not understand why the right opposes Obama. Keep believing it is racial animus though, or that the Left is envied for its ‘Messiah’. Whatever you feel cozy with. Don’t bother asking someone on the right. You won’t listen to the answer anyway without accusing the respondent of lying.

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      1. Independent1 April 21, 2014

        Well!! Why don’t you enlighten us since you’re all knowing?? And stop being the typical troll with your cockeyed insinuations and half-baked accusations based on no, or fabricated facts.
        I’ll assure you that I can spew out a list of facts as long as your arm that clearly identify the transgressions of the GOP over the past 40 years that justify why many of us on this blog are currently supporting progressive issues – Let’s see you come up with AN HONEST list of transgressions that have been committed by non GOP loving presidents and legislatures over the past 40 years that justify your offhand insinuations – and just to let you know in advance: we won’t buy any “supposed transgressions” that have been created by the likes of Faux News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, brietbart and other right-wing rags including the WSJ.

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        1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

          The topic is racism on Fox, not historical trangressions by the GOP. I am sure you have ample data to support your claims to bash the GOP, as you do in every single topic you post in. So, please excuse me, all knowing one, if i politely deny your request to dive off topic with you. I am clearly unqualified to match your bashing skills.

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          1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Angels spin cycle is turning in high gear I see. By the way, I have made the first call in that popularity contest you so strongly desired. I will continue to repeat the call.

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          2. Independent1 April 21, 2014

            So, in otherwords, it’s not Obama’s race or that he has particularly done anything wrong, it’s just some pie-in-the-sky thing that any rational person may have trouble comprehending – is that it??

            You clearly gave the impression that there was something that us NM bloggers would have trouble believing. Here’s yur words:

            You clearly do not understand why the right opposes Obama. Keep believing it is racial animus though, or that the Left is envied for its ‘Messiah’. Whatever you feel cozy with. Don’t bother asking someone on the right. You won’t listen to the answer anyway without accusing the respondent of lying.

            Well, since you seem to have trouble expressing what that might be, let me show you one thing I came across today, that’s one reason my dislike for right-wing neocons keeps getting worse.
            Below is a chart showing the Republican run states that are refusing to extend Medicaid, with projections for each state with how many Americans may die prematurely this year because of GOP governors or legislatures NONSENSICAL REFUSAL TO EXPAND MEDICIAD.
            Maybe you can enlighten us as to some justification for purposely allowing between 7,000 and 17,000 Americans to die early – most likely for that pie-in-the-sky reason that you can’t seem to express.

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          3. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Why don’t you leave a post with a nod of approval or disapproval for our resident troll. He has been claiming that I have been abusing everyone and running off posters. So, I wouldn’t be surprised if I was disliked, but I am looking to gather some actual numbers to throw onto the fire while I am roasting “the stench.” I would appreciate a nod either way, though my feelings will not be hurt if everyone does otherwise.

            Angel is definitely lukewarm to the idea, and has been squirming with excuses about why this won’t work. He claims that he is not going to participate now, for an entire garden variety of excuses. Yet I have pointed out, his assistance is not necessary for a vote. I intend to continue this for a couple of weeks on a part-time basis. I would not mind if someone else starts their own poll to add to the data pool. 🙂

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          4. Independent1 April 21, 2014

            Let me give you another chart that adds even more to my dislike for the GOP. In this chart, notice that the amount of taxes that the IRS was not able to collect, even back in 2010 (mostly from corporations), was greater than what will be this years deficit (the shorting is over 500B these days). Yet, ever since the early 2000s, the GOP has insisted on cutting the IRS’ budgets while ridiculing the agency (much as it has done for the State Dept) leaving it increasingly shorthanded while it uses the agency in its fabricated scandals.

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        2. dave April 21, 2014

          You just took all the worst of the repubs and their ‘front men’ and left them with no ‘real’ leaders.

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      2. Philip Damra April 21, 2014

        Well, why won’t you answer the question posed in the article? What would opposition from the Republican party look like if it were motivated my racism? How would it look any different?

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        1. Independent1 April 21, 2014

          Don’t hold your breath for an answer from someone as clueless as angelsinca. His IQ is so low he has to stoop over to get under it. He has no clue what the article is really about – he just spews inane nonsense that the RNC pays him to post.

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      3. charleo1 April 21, 2014

        Well, sure there’s jealousy. Before John Kerry chose Obama
        to be the key note speaker at the Democratic Convention, in ’04. Few outside of Chicago politicos, some advocacy
        groups, and local academia, had ever heard of Barack
        Obama. And then, there was that speech. And the rest, as
        they say, is history. He goes on to win his bid for the Senate
        by a landslide, his book shoots to the top of the best seller list, he becomes a millionaire, and even Democrats turned
        a little green. But I don’t think racism is the primary reason Republicans politicians are so sore at Obama. It’s because, he’s not one of them. Their leader was Georgie Boy don’t forget. And, Obama is everything they claim to admire. An up by his bootstraps guy. A walking talking, in the flesh, personification of that great America, and American, they keep talking about. The one so few in their own Party members backgrounds represent anymore. Or, was it when Obama went to Berlin as a candidate, and drew 100,000 enthusiastic Germans. While the same day, John McCain, made a brief statement, to a small number press people after coming out of a donor’s meeting at a Weinerschnitzel.
        That had to hurt. I can empathize, and I didn’t make that up.

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        1. Independent1 April 21, 2014

          Charle, you’re talking over Angelsinca’s head. He doesn’t have the brains to comprehend what you’re telling him. With an IQ of about 50, he’s lucky if he can figure out which side of the bed to get out of each morning without falling flat on his face. Stupid is as stupid does!! And making asinine comments on the National Memo is as stupid as it gets!!!!

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  8. Dominick Vila April 21, 2014

    There is no doubt in my mind that race is part of the equation when it comes to the way President Obama has been treated since he became President, but there is a lot more to the constant attacks, distortions, and omissions by what is, clearly, a complicit media.
    The attacks against President Obama are consistent with what former President Clinton endured, and are likely to be identical to what Hillary Clinton will endure if she is the Democratic nominee in 2016. The reason for the electioneering tactics used by the GOP time and again has nothing to do with race or evil, it is simply the result of a party with a record so dismal that their only recourse is to rely on lies, distortions, hyperbole, and personal attacks to destroy their opponents and deflect attention from their own flaws.
    If they ran on their record they could not get a job as a dog catcher.

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    1. TZToronto April 21, 2014

      And that’s because all of the smart former Republicans have seen the truth of what their party has become and have, in practice if not in name, gone over to the other side. I have a very difficult time believing that Colin Powell or Condi Rice are really on-side with what their party has turned into. Are they going to vote for the racist religionists when they step into the voting booth? I cannot imagine that they would.

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      1. Dominick Vila April 21, 2014

        The same thoughts have crossed my mind. I can’t imagine a single reason why any minority – ethnic or gender – would vote Republican. I suspect that the radicalism that has taken hold of that party in recent years is the reason so many mainstream Republicans have retired early. The GOP of today is the exact opposite to the Republican party of Teddy Roosevelt and even Ike. The term “conservative” has degenerated and is now synonymous to intolerance, hatred, greed and religious fanaticism. Surprisingly, or perhaps not, they remain very popular in some circles…

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        1. Buford2k11 April 21, 2014

          Their “silence” is deafening…

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          1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            The unpleasant and unwelcoming reactions may have something to do with it. Reading these comments on this liberal blog tells me that the radicalism you so desperately warn against and assign to the GOP is actually seething within the Democratic party. You folks pretend to know what conservatives think and want. The truth is, the other half of the country is just like you. But without the the need to destroy something they don’t understand.

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          2. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            The only radical here is you. Racism permeates every post you make. In fact, the only reason you are here is to start posting “radical” nonsense in an effort to dishearten people into not voting.

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          3. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Wrong again Byrd. You claim racism with EVERY stroke of your keyboard. Therefore,you aren’t qualified to comment on the subject with any credibility.

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          4. Sams Mom April 21, 2014

            Yeah. That’s not how racism works ‘dear’.
            Take your ‘not qualified’ and retreat to under your rock.

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          5. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Very well said, Sam should be proud!!!

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          6. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Do tell how racism ‘works’ Sams Mom.

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          7. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Continuing to come to blogs that describe you to a “Tea,” (Teaheehee) and going through your typically defective and redundant “victim” routine. Another way to put this is, if you weren’t guilty, you would not be here trying double hard to disrupt the people that actually read the article. “She doth protesteth too much.” That be you, angelstench. 🙂

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          8. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            You are racist in some manner 100% of the time, I call you out for this 100% of the time, therefore, it follows that I have credibility, 100% of the time.

            Really, this kind of article brings you out like stink on you know what. Every time you show up here all agitated is a tacit admission that you are a racist. A non-racist would just pass this by for greener pastures. Think about it. I KNEW you would be here. No one needs your posting history to follow you. Your inherent racism gives you away every time, stoopid!

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          9. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Russy, if you “call me out” on racism 100% of the time, you are wrong ALL the time.You aren’t nearly the gatekeeper you think you.are. At this point, in this thread, you aren’t much more than an annoying twerp that is contributing nothing to the conversation. Pffft.

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          10. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Angel lies 100% of the time, therefore anything angel says may be safely disregarded.

            In order to be an effective liar, angel, you have to tell the truth 99% of the time. As you are an unintelligent mental defective, you cannot grasp that obvious concept.

            So, go boohoo . . .

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          11. highpckts April 22, 2014

            And you are???

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          12. plc97477 April 23, 2014

            Your biggest problem is you can not prove any of that.

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          13. highpckts April 22, 2014

            Kettle calling the pot black??

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          14. idamag April 22, 2014

            Angels attack on the Southern Poverty Law Center echoed the white supremists rhetoric. That was a dead give away.

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          15. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            Ah, I read it, but missed the significance. Thanks. As Mr. Shakespeare wrote, “the lady doth protest too much, methinks.” For people that claim not to be racist, they sure spend a lot of time trying to rationalize what they aren’t, and a lot of time accusing others of it.

            In their warped view of convenient untruth, if you behave as a racist, then you are lily white pure, bad analogy intended, but if you are supportive of the rights of every person, then you are a racist.

            I have to say that I find those that despise Obama for being half white the worst racists of all. Obviously, if one were not racist, there cannot be any blame attached to Obama personally. No child can be responsible for the identity of their parents. Thinking otherwise is patent racism.

            As well, when I was young, anyone that could not pass for white, was black. Whether they liked it or not. From Jim Crow racists to civil rights supporters, and most of the “blacks” themselves, anyone not white, indian, Hispanic, etc., was black. No choice. . . .

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          16. angelsinca April 23, 2014

            It was a link, not an attack. If the article was false please correct, not condemn. I didn’t write it, just shared. Sharing must be the new racism.

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          17. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

            Projecting again?

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          18. dave April 21, 2014

            Its not what you say,but ‘how’ you say it.

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          19. highpckts April 22, 2014

            Oh my God! So you do recognize yourself in that description? Every word out of their mouths is just like you, denial, denial, denial! You know what you are so you push it off on the other guys in hopes of deflecting the truth about the GOP! It won’t work because there are sane people in the majority!!

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          20. Orlandus Green April 23, 2014

            And when was the last time you heard a republican politician say something about the President where it didn’t start out with “now Obama thinks”?

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          21. angelsinca April 24, 2014

            All the time. It usually goes something like, ‘…the president refuses to work with us..”

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          22. Duckbudder April 24, 2014

            “Our #1 goal is to make sure Obama accomplishes nothing, and is held to one term.”

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          23. angelsinca April 24, 2014

            They failed that one

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      2. FredAppell April 21, 2014

        Some of them lost their seats to more radical contenders too.

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    2. Lola Johnson April 21, 2014

      You are at least partially right. However, the lies and distortions have a particular appeal to many latent or overt racists who’ve never paid much attention to politics before. and it’s easy to frighten them.

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      1. Dominick Vila April 21, 2014

        There is no doubt in my mind that race is an important factor for some, but not for the majority of Republicans. We have to go no further than the Clinton impeachment, and the relentless attacks against against Hillary Clinton to understand that race is not the only factor driving Republicans.

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      2. dave April 21, 2014

        The worst part is these people all just used to sit back and watch elections. With the ‘new’ vocal repub,[tea], party these people hear what they want to hear and they VOTE too.

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        1. angelsinca April 23, 2014

          Wouldn’t it be nice if you could just ‘prevent them from voting’? Better not. You might lose another shallow talking point.

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      3. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

        I agree with Mr. Vila, except in my view, racism is the cause that accelerated the fever pitch of the Repub hate and rhetoric to the level of hysteria. They are going insane with fear and evil hatred.

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    3. Orlandus Green April 23, 2014

      Nothing to do with race or evil, now that is a profound statement.

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  9. jobie2 April 21, 2014

    Of course, much of the criticism of this president and attorney general is racist. I am 62 years old and have never seen anything like the blatant bigotry shown this president and attorney general. Some uber rich oligarchs have found ways to empower the ignorant and bigoted in this country and they call themselves the TEA Party. This group has never been about taxes. Taxes are even lower than when W. Bush was president. Wall Street is booming. The TEA Party and other extreme white militia groups are all about frightened, mostly old white people, losing “their country,” to the rising population of non-whites who will soon be the majority in this country. They are afraid that non-whites will treat them the same way that they treated non-whites. Not gonna happen, so everyone just needs to calm down because “the times they are a’changin.”

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    1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

      With all respect jobie2, you don’t get it. The ‘frightened old white people’ you refer to (with racist overtones) aren’t concerned about “losing” their country to minorities. It is a loss to the progressive agenda. This isn’t a racial fear.

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      1. latebloomingrandma April 21, 2014

        So—-what do you all have against progress?

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        1. 1standlastword April 21, 2014

          The trajectory!

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          1. highpckts April 22, 2014

            You mean upward? We could still be in a recession like Bush left us in!! What is it with you guys that can’t see the positive if your party is not in “control”? Sorry losers?

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        2. charlie tango April 21, 2014

          communism doesn’t work. It has been tried and failed bringing misery to the people. It is not progress

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          1. CamCubed April 21, 2014

            “communism doesn’t work”

            Indeed. Since you know so much about Communism, perhaps you’ll point out a Communistic policy or legislation that Obama and/or liberals has/have spearheaded or implemented.

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          2. grantjr67 April 21, 2014

            And the 17 trillion debt shows that capitalism works? That 1% owns 42% of the wealth shows capitalism works?

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          3. Independent1 April 21, 2014

            Unfortunately, the vast majority of that 17 trillion in debt had nothing to do with Capitalism; it had much more to do with the politically motivated greed perpetrated by 3 Republican presidents – Reagan and the 2 Bushes. And Capitalism is not a form of government; it’s a private sector thing. See this:

            Capitalism is an economic system in which trade, industry, and the means of production are controlled by private owners with the goal of making profits in a market economy.[1][2] Central characteristics of capitalism include capital accumulation,competitive markets and wage labor.[3] In a capitalist economy, the parties to a transaction typically determine the prices at which assets, goods, and services are exchanged.[4]

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          4. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Marx, of all people, is seen as one of thegreat founders of the discipline of economics. Unfortunately, he is often abused by “good” American capitalists for no other reason that his association with communism. What I am saying, they did not like the message, so they hate the messenger. This, even though his ideas have never been disproven. In other words, a lot of contention, but very little proof he was wrong.

            My point is really just this. Marx had it, that as a nation became more Socialist, it became more Democratic. At first i was a little surprised, but on reflection he was absolutely, indisputably right. If we balance the playing field, get rid of the Koch’s, etc., then we will start having a Democracy again. Instead of an Oligarchy run by plutocrats. Before long, that Oligarchy will develop into a Totalitarian regime, if we do not move to stop it.

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          5. dave April 22, 2014

            With the ability to buy politicians AND elections now its almost here !! The supreme court might as well have said to the average american your vote doesn’t
            anymore.It already gave the rich and politically power
            ful the ability to pervert the election process.

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          6. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            I had the suspicion that our crooked, politicized Supreme Court would make that decision, but I am still stunned by the total lack of honesty and reason.Of course, they also gave us Citizen’s United and George Bush as well. I can only believe that these people are evil to their core.

            A Daily Kos article that I vehemently do not agree with, has a Teabugger candidate downing Democracy as Socialism. While this Teatard is truly a buffoon, DK made a big case that Democracy was not Socialism.

            However, Democracy is Socialism, and we better damn well get over the Rethugs making a big deal of it. Marx was 100% right on this one. When we start working together, unite ourselves as a free country, and start do what is best for our nation and people, then Democracy will flourish. THAT is Socialism and that is what plutocrats hate.

            I fear that our Democracy factually ended on April 2 this year. Some April Fool’s joke that was. It was even a day late. . . .

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          7. booker25 April 24, 2014

            I believe it ended in 1981 when Reagan took office

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          8. Duckbudder April 24, 2014

            That was the first shot, the Kill Shot was 12/12/2000

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          9. Russell Byrd April 24, 2014

            I stand corrected again. That was the date when we first discovered that our Supreme Court had absolutely no care or worry of even the appearance of fairness, or an adherence to the law.

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          10. Russell Byrd April 24, 2014

            Yeah, I admit that I was being a little too optimistic.

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          11. Celest56 April 23, 2014

            Right-but in the nuclear energy sector each and every generating station in the US had to be propped up by the US government because private insurers would not touch insuring the land around them. So the US government had to do it. So much for “free enterprise” and market economy.Not one of them could be up and running without the government. Not one.

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          12. Russell Byrd April 24, 2014

            That is the sort of thing that most of us don’t consider in a discussion. I suppose the supporters of this “crutch” want it to remain that way. Good post.

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          13. highpckts April 22, 2014

            Oh and that is the Progessives fault? Try several Republican Presidents that thought money was no barrier to their political agenda!

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          14. idamag April 22, 2014

            facts? OMG, you expect these haters to provide facts? They don’t even know what the word means.

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          15. Ford Truck April 22, 2014

            Most Teapublicans think “fact” is what they did to their wives last night, and the 1% think its what they are doing to the American!

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          16. idamag April 22, 2014

            Damn, you are good! You made my day.

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          17. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            A nation that has true upward mobility, and true, uncorrupted by money government, IS CALLED A DEMOCRACY. Oligarchies, as you seem to be suggesting we should have, form governments similar to Franco, Laval, Mussolini, and of course, your uncle Adolf’s. So go have another cup of tea.

            As a pro gardener years ago, we used to make a “tea” for our plants. It was called manure tea and was probably just as tasty as the sludge you are drinking.

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          18. JSquercia April 21, 2014

            What we have is nothing even REMOTELY resembling Communism . You know what HAS been tied and failed Reaganomics .If you are in the 1/10 of the one percent it has worked for YOU otherwise it has been an utter disaster

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          19. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Amen!

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          20. charleo1 April 22, 2014

            Well, I don’t know as how Communism would even apply to America’s current predicament. What is a
            fact, is we’ve developed a small extremely wealthy,
            contingent who, in perhaps an honest endeavor to
            gain advantage over their competition, have turned the democratic process into a money ruled, mess.
            And whenever that happens, as our own history
            shows, Capitalism is very capable itself, of dealing
            out a lot of misery, to a whole lot of people. In fact,
            in these so called Communistic economies, some
            of our own companies are engaging in some horrible
            human rights abuses. And, they are doing so, purely
            in the interest of profit. And the profits are astronomical, but at what cost? We here in America, are at this time, experiencing a mild version of what millions laboring in non-democratic states, for these
            U.S. Corporations in what can only be described as
            misery. And how do they accomplish this? Because
            the governments, unconcerned about the individual
            citizen, after all, he has no say. But, only the power
            of the State, rules supreme. And their States are
            getting enormously powerful. As those same entities
            those same corporations, are using part of those same profits, to undermine the very processes by which the governmental institutions, and regulatory
            bodies here, ultimately gain the power to regulate and to tax them. Because, unlike the other governments,
            controlled by party elites, our government, to an extent they find intolerable, continues to be too influenced, too dependent on the will of the people.
            And it is this, they the corporatist, the Kochs, the Sheldon Adelsons, the lobby money from Wall Street,
            the anonymous money donors, all of it, that is threatening our very democracy. Hell, they’ve got
            some Americans already so brainwashed, they’ll
            correct you about the democracy part. We’re actually
            a Republic. So, it’s alright then, to hack away at the
            democratic institutions of a Republic? Just not a
            democracy. Because, we don’t have one of those.
            And, as long as it’s not Communism. Because, that
            always brings misery.

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          21. Ford Truck April 22, 2014

            You really need to take a few political science and macro-economics classes. Communism HAS NOT BEEN TRIED ON A NATIONAL LEVEL. Russia was not communist, it was Stalinist. China is not communist, it has evolved from Maoism into a its current perverted form. True Communism would only work in an egalitarian society, where it is to everyone’s benefit for everyone to succeed. You will never see that once a society grows beyond the level of a clan society.

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          22. idamag April 22, 2014

            There was a religion, back in the 1800’s that tried communism. Everything went into the storehouse to be distributed. Everyone’s increases were pooled for the good of the community. It didn’t work. I am sure the blathering idiots who call the president a communist, would fare well in a communist country. They wouldn’t have a board, like this, to spout off on. And one nasty name-calling word might land them in jail.

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          23. highpckts April 22, 2014

            You want to see how Communism really works? Go to China or Russia! You are really way off base!! You are a scare monger just like the GOP!!

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          24. idamag April 22, 2014

            And you have lived or visited communist countries do your information if first hand. I have been to communist countries and it didn’t work, but I saw why it was not working. Did you?

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      2. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

        More denial.

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      3. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

        Your cowardly racist a** is easy to find, even after you blocked out your profile. All one has to do is follow the trail of stench and filth.

        You would not even be here if the article was not true. You are a reverse barometer from what is good and decent.

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        1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

          The profile is made private to protect against your creepiness, worm.

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          1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            If you treated other people, including myself, with a little respect, then your cowardly a** would have nothing to fear.

            Even better, if you disappear, I will likely go back to just reading the blog, and you will never hear from me again.

            So, the only creepiness here is from a squirmy maggot named angelstench.

            Be honest, you have initiated every conversation for the last two months. I just won’t let you get away with it.

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          2. idamag April 22, 2014

            I think angels in california is a white supremist group. Certainly sound the same.

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          3. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            That never occurred to me. It would explain a lot. You just gave me something to research on my lunch time today.

            I knew where to find angel, as soon as I saw this article’s title. Odd how they come running when an article that even mentions racism comes up.

            Angel has made his posting history private, but yet, it is periodically bombing my inbox with messages from dead blogs. I send him off kicking and screaming every time.

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          4. angelsinca April 23, 2014

            How is someone supposed to respect a comment like this, idamag? Please indicate EXACTLY where I gave you the impression I was racist or a white supremist. Or you are just another liar with an opinion.

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          5. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            Talks like a racist. Walks like a racist. Sounds like a racist. Enjoys being a racist. BUT, denies being a racist. Seriously, which “angel” should I believe I am meeting? Hmm?

            Well, very seriously now, you are constantly downing poor and disadvantaged people, many of whom are minorities. So at the very least, you are a bigot. You are constantly touting rich white guys at the expense of everyone else. You have made many, many suggestive racial remarks. I say this because, you have made a few overtly racist remarks, so you are not innocent, but most of your remarks are rather cryptic and snide. You just think we should not notice because you think we are as dumb as you. (Natural right-wing arrogance and ignorance there.)

            But the all time best indication of your racism is simply this. Every time someone writes an article that mentions right-wing racism, you come running like you are on fire. As Mr. Shakespeare wrote, “the lady doth protest too much, methinks.” You obviously do not even read the article, and then you start posting off-topic nonsense to disrupt coherent discussion and then you bully until everyone quits. Right-wing racism is obvious, and is made noisome by the same racists constantly trying to spin their racism onto liberals and progressives that are not. You try to hurt people, we try to help them. I

            If you cannot understand that simple truth, you ARE a racist. Denial may assuage your nearly non-existent conscience, but it will not change the truth, or how others see you.

            Add to all your manifestations of racism the fact that you never seem to read perfectly well-written articles, you badger and bully. You post to people until they give up and leave. Exactly like I accused you of. I have read your posts where you actually thank people that are posting on topic for leaving the blog. Just as I accused you of. And you did say that was your mission.

            I have seen you, insult people as being stupid for taking to long to agree with your stupid bullying. I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT BECAUSE YOU DID IT TO ME. I tried to make peace, but you took my offer contingent on shoving my face in your sh*t. Don’t dare lying, because I recorded all these posts.

            As such, you deserve every bit of derision we can give to you. . . .

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          6. Russell Byrd April 23, 2014

            The simplest that I can say this is, why do you smart off to idamag, or anyone, when the views expressed were not even addressed directly to you. Yes, the subject is you, but you have done everything you can to merit the description and conclusion.

            Leave idamag alone, and guess what, the controversy will end. You, by your own deeds, created the situation you find yourself in with myself, and other posters.

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      4. highpckts April 22, 2014

        Really? Then why all the subtle name calling referring to race! It’s not about the agenda!! They are Black and it goes against against everything they were raised to hate! Until these “racists” are gone” it will never be any different!!

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    2. Buford2k11 April 21, 2014

      First, need to put a name to the uber rich oligarchs who are actively using their status to take what is not theirs…The Kochs…I am the same age as you are, and I agree…I have scars from some hard core bigots and I refuse to let them win…

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  10. disgvnv April 21, 2014

    ? did not Faux nonews sue US, you and me, to be able to Lie openly to the public ?

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  11. Grannysmovin April 21, 2014

    Why didn’t Chris Wallace put his big boy pants on and ask these two pillars of society about: “a president who was called “uppity” by one GOP lawmaker, “boy” by another and “subhuman” by a GOP activist; who was depicted as a bone-through-the-nose witch doctor by opponents of his health care reform bill; as a pair of cartoon spook eyes against a black backdrop by an aide to a GOP lawmaker, and as an ape by various opponents; who has been dogged by a “Tea Party” movement whose earliest and most enthusiastic supporters included the Council of Conservative Citizens, infamous for declaring the children of interracial unions “a slimy brown glop”; who was called a liar by an obscure GOP lawmaker during a speech before a joint session of Congress; who has had to contend with a years-long campaign of people pretending there is some mystery about where he was born and GOP lawmakers who stood with Tea Party members calling the President a Muslim and to come out of the White House with his arms up or waving a confederate flag in front of the White House. Why didn’t Wallace these two characterless individuals what other President has been treated this way

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    1. TZToronto April 21, 2014

      Why didn’t he challenge them? To challenge them would be to question the veracity of their statements and would contradict what almost all of the viewers already believe. Then people would abandon Fox News for some news network that is only slightly less racist. Fox’s ratings would suffer, and Wallace would lose his job. Chris’s dad must be spinning in his grave. Would he have let these two shills get away unchallenged? I can only say, “Probably not.”

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    2. idamag April 21, 2014

      And the t potty demonstrations, remember those? The ugly racist signs and rhetoric?

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      1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

        There was ONE racist sign and it appears to have been a plant.

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        1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

          Angelstench was a plant? Now we understand.

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          1. dave April 21, 2014

            One of the upside down variety?. The ‘head’ in the ‘fertilizer’ type ??

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          2. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Dave, I started not to post, but I am glad I came. Yeah, I think you captured the essence of old angelstench.

            I hate to self-promote, but on a challenge from angel, I decided to have a contest. Seems I am running everybody off this blog and angel is kindly trying to defend everyone’s free speech from people like me. Just tag a post as to whether you approve of our favorite troll. Or give me an up or down vote. I don’t think I am all that popular, but I just really want everyone to get the truth. I think angel is funny. Particularly in the time it wastes here getting nothing. Of course, in his own mind, he is slaying dragons . . . liberal dragons. 🙂

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          3. idamag April 22, 2014

            I do not like our present troll or trolls. I just wish this white supremist group would go back to their own hate blogs.

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          4. Russell Byrd April 22, 2014

            If we are not committed to reining them in, then we will face an epidemic. I know they cannot and should not be banned, (well, they should be banned) but at least we could unite in complaint because posting conditions are miserable. Maybe remove the most regular and egregious offenders, like our dear angel. There is no use in having articles, and then have comment sections, when no one is safe from non-stop harassment when they make reasonable, on-topic posts.

            For instance, Mother Jones wants me to give them money. I am sure they ask you and the rest of the posters too. Yet, why would I give them money to run a spam and troll magnet. This place is like an insane asylum. You can just about bet that angel has never given them a nickel, and never will. Now I won’t either. Angel is a mindless plague that is out to kill its host. (Remember, angel told me that, er, “it” was only here to “educate” us and / or “close these blogs down.” WHY should such behavior be allowed to remain?)

            Regardless of which side of the aisle someone is on, “Disqus” is the most useless embarrassment for a provider that I could ever conceive of. Their idea is to pack as many posters in as possible, apparently, to raise their bandwidth usage and profits from increased numbers of posters. However, they plainly state that they do not do any moderation.

            Even worse, they have recently downgraded the “down vote” from a symbolic marker of disapproval, to a useless waste of a finger stroke. Why, because they WANT to encourage trolls. They figure if they can pack in a bunch of hostiles together, and let them go at it, the post counts will go out of sight. They don’t want to p-i-s-s off any of our little friendlies.

            Really, if I were trolling Freitfart, I would expect those cretins to flame my butt. Yet, if I can stand harsh talk, and it is harsh and very, very threatening there, then I could linger forever. At first glance, no one would expect that I was a resident troll. Same with our present mob here.

            Actually, the most gentle way to remove trolls would be with the “up/down” vote buttons. Either a limit on the difference between up and down, or just a trigger at a certain number of down votes. Say in a group with 100 posts, 10 down votes. Don’t even ban the idiot, just give them a 48 hour time out, or 12 hour, or 21 days, or forever. Just come up with something reasonable. Trolls would be less likely to return, as bad behavior would cause another ejection, they would have to behave to some degree, and that all important enjoyment from ruining someone’s posting experience would become so difficult that the worst would just move on. As far as I am concerned, Disqus is the equivalent of the five crooked Supremes. They want a field day for the most active bullies.

            By the way, I silently “trolled” here for years before I ever posted. I got tired of the bullying by trolls such as angel. I will add that it wasn’t just the trolling in Memo, but just about everywhere. I got tired of watching regulars disappear. After all, they were half of the enjoyment. So, when I got angry enough, I decided to give some back to certain trolls.

            The response that I would get made me become a little more caustic. So, I slowly stepped up the tempo. I used to never curse at all, until I took enough filth from the trolls that I came to the realization that no moderator was, or ever would, come to check on the blog. I have always had a sense of humor that is a little dark. In my view, there is considerable humor in pain. What are you going to do, cry or laugh, when things get bad. Well, that is what I use to debase these freaks the most effectively.

            Once, I decided to be a “good” liberal and make peace with angel. What did I get? An extended lecture about how stupid I was and how long it took for his viewpoint to sink in to my empty head. Well . . . that was what upset the tulip cart. I blasted him with every insulting bit of fact and sarcasm I could muster.

            Have you ever read when a regular poster announces they are leaving, angel will say “thanks” or “it is about time.” That is why angel comes. That is what it enjoys. He has prematurely sent a regular to “the showers.” In its tiny mind it has slain a mighty dragon. Since then, I have given angel all the crap “it” can handle. AND. I never quit until the mighty angel runs for the hills. Those are the reasons why it hates me so. I deny it the joy that it feels it is entitled to.

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          5. idamag April 23, 2014

            And with an upside down digestive system that spews you-know-what.

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        2. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

          Where do you guys get this stuff? Yes, all the rotten things the GOP has said and done over the last few decades were obviouSly “PLANTS.”

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          1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

            Yeah, skunk cabbage, stink weed, deadly nightshade, poison ivy, . . . .

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        3. Sams Mom April 21, 2014

          It’s always a plant isn’t it?

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    3. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

      That is the evil that our news media has generated into. They claim to just being news reporters. They are more skeptic of the truth tellers than they are of the bold-faced liars. I think part of it is similar to the phenomena of that treasonous, thieving Nevada rancher. The “news” people know there will be an awful scene if they cross these crazies, and with most of the media owned by the rich, or unduly influenced by the rich, someone could be quickly out of work. So, they ask questions, and then sit back and let the right-wackos lie. Which they do with “abandon.”

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  12. idamag April 21, 2014

    It seems the far right does not investigate before they yap. The fact that the Southern Poverty Law Center (who keeps a watch on hate groups) findings show that white supremist groups doubled after Obama elected is a good indicator of the racism involved.

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    1. jointerjohn April 21, 2014

      You have hit an an important factor in this discussion. Not all republicans are racists and not all political right-wingers are racists. Its just that many cannot resist the temptation to use the fact that our President is half-black to fire up the ignorant and backward amongst them to get votes. Because their agenda is so empty, so hopeless, they need emotions, even ugly ones, to keep their team on the field. If we have a female candidate for President in 2016, which is likely, watch the kind of crap that will illicit. We are dealing with a party here that is now completely devoid of any decency, principles or ethics.

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      1. CamCubed April 21, 2014

        Except of course this bastardized version of libertarianism that conflates wealth and morality in a very illiberal, neo-aristocratic way (which they deny of course). I.e., if you’re rich, you’re moral by default. That’s pretty much the bottom line message of the Republican party today. Even “being Christian” has taken back seat to being monied. Doesn’t even matter HOW you have money. You could be a trust fund baby and still be a saint according to the new (?) conservative standard. Not like conservatives are known for caring to distinguish between arbitrary factors like the accident of one’s birth.

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        1. jointerjohn April 22, 2014

          That’s the other collision course they are on now. Reconciliation of Ayn Rand’s madness to fundamentalist Christianity will require extreme philosophical contortionism.

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          1. CamCubed April 22, 2014

            It’s tragically funny to watch them try, however. lulz.

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          2. idamag April 22, 2014

            Ayn Rand was a fascist until hitler made it unpopular.

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          3. CamCubed April 22, 2014

            Fascism was after WW2, and still is, popular among McCarthyists and Birchers as the premier alternative to communism, socialism, and of course that pesky democracy thing, which tends to end up more like socialism as the “stupid and poor” people evolve it over time.

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  13. angelsinca April 21, 2014

    This article is just more ‘pounding on the table’, repeating demands that racism is the only possible answer. Poor leadership isn’t confined to racial boundaries.

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    1. gmccpa April 21, 2014

      Really? Poor leadership? The racist comments, jokes, inferences, etc…..started before he was even sworn in. Do you live in such a bubble that you didn’t notice that? Repeatably referring to Obama as a Muslim Kenyan has to do with leadership? Not accepting his stated religion has to do with his leadership skills? (name one other Pres who’s stated religion was questioned). In fact, name one other Pres who was asked (demanded?) to make his birth cert. public. Funny, we dont hear too much about Ted Cruz being born in another country. And he WAS.

      The only ones pounding the table has been the RW. Pounding it with lies, inferences, and inuendos. And when they’re called on it, there moronic followers conveniently ‘forget’ about everything that was said and believe ‘leadership’ is the real issue.

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      1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

        Getting back on topic, the author is stretching so far to find racism, he actually cited the white makeup of the Fox panel as an act of racism. Really. Stereotyping the entire GOP over the seemingly racist comments of a handful of protagonists not part of Fox doesn’t demonstrate racism. I agree that the very few bloggers that have ever referred to Obama as a “Kenyan Muslim” are deeply racist. But to label Fox and all of its listeners racist is just ignorance.

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        1. gmccpa April 21, 2014

          Back on topic. The topic is racism. And the ‘very few’ bloggers. Here’s a quote from Mike Huckabee a Fox host, and a former…and possilbe future Pres candidate…….Huckabee answered Malzberg with this statement: “I would love to know more. What I know is troubling enough. And one thing that I do know is his having grown up in Kenya, his view of the Brits, for example, very different than the average American.

          You’re hiding in your bubble.

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          1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            They should be corrected then, shouldn’t they? Casting a veil of racism doesn’t accomplish that.

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          2. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

            The fact that they didn’t correct is of course no indication whatsoever that they agreed, right?
            And I don’t see you correcting them, either.

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          3. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            I agreed with your response. Reading comprehension…

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          4. gmccpa April 21, 2014

            Let me get this straight. You agree that referring to Obama as a “Muslim Kenyan” is racist. But when I point out that two (I can find more if you’d like) of Fox’s major on air personalities have done just that….do you still deny that Fox is racist? (you know, the point of this article).

            You’ve boxed yourself into a corner with this one. Pretty much any response will look kind of stupid. Unless you agree with Mr. Pitts and acknowledge that racism DID play a part in Fox’s treatment of Obama. You’ve got nowhere else to go.

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          5. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Concluding an entire network is racist based on the select and very few inappropriate remarks by two, maybe 3 personalities seems reasonable? Lol. not really. Boxed into a corner? not at all. If the left didn’t have racism to banter with, it could always go back to doing whatever it was doing before hating on Bush for 8 years. Oh yeah, making excuses for Clinton’s indiscretions.

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          6. gmccpa April 21, 2014

            Right. No need to conclude the network is racist by the unrefuted comments of their on air personalities. What do they have to do before you acknowledge (which you sort of already done) their racism? Announce it in their mission statement? You KNOW its racist….you said so yourself.

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        2. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

          Fox News is racism defined first of all.
          Yeah, it was just a “handful” of racists who turned the solid Democratic south to the solid Repubilcan south is 2-3 years after the Civil Rights Act. And just and “handful” who welcomed them with open arms.
          You must have pretty big hands, certainly far larger than your brain.
          As a likely racist yourself, you’re in no position to judge, anyway.

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          1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            The unnecessary personal attack is ignored. The civil rights act was 50 years ago. Interesting how accusations of racism have become the argument of last resort for the past 2-3 years.

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          2. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

            Sorry about the personal attack. Yes, the Civil Rights Act was 50 years ago, but I notice that the south hasn’t gone back to the Democrats, have they? They won’t any time soon, either, because they are clearly still really angry about it, and are joined by those in the north who are successors to those who welcomed them so warmly 50 years ago.Your other point is true enough; of course, there’s no possible way that the argument is being applied because it hits the mark now more than ever with the large upsurge in overt racism in the GOP.
            As always, your denial means little. Whatever your own feelings in this – you were noticeably less enraged and irrational than those who appear most likely to have been stung by the truth here, to be fair – you still deny it.

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          3. angelsinca April 21, 2014

            Please excuse the consternation, but i have no comfort knowing the ugliness of racism is going to be defended anymore by Democrats than Republicans. Forty years ago, you were a racist if you aligned yourself with the KKK. Today, one is deemed a racist by watching the wrong TV channel. I’m not denying racism exists, just ridiculing the lowering of the bar.

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          4. Sand_Cat April 22, 2014

            Never heard about being a racist if one watched the wrong TV channel, though I guess you refer to Fox. And – so far as I know – no Democrats are defending racism, at least overtly, though there are almost certainly racists in both parties. There is a difference in those who recognize their own prejudice and do their best to prevent it from affecting their decisions, and those who just hide it behind code words. I think you know which party I believe the latter mostly support, though I’m sure you disagree.
            It is of small comfort that what 50+ years of integration and good faith efforts have mainly accomplished is making it no longer socially acceptable to be openly racist, which I guess is progress, but not nearly so much as one might have hoped.

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        3. idamag April 21, 2014

          Angels in California> OMG, you are one of those groups.

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      2. kenndeb April 21, 2014

        Perhaps if the “most transparent administration” would , at some point, actually be transparent ? How many presidents were there that had ALL their records sealed ? How many presidents have been so openly anti-American? How many have produced forged documents? How many were raised in Muslim countries? Just how many lies and cover-ups are the American people supposed to endure from an official that thinks he is Emperor ruling over his serfs? How many POTUS have blatantly ignored our constitution and our laws? The Emperor should not be shown an iota of respect if he can not show his employers, the American people, that he works for them and not the UN. We do not presently have an actual president. We have a tyrant that should be removed and prosecuted for crimes against the American people. The only overt racism comes from this POTUS, his wife, the AG, and the liberals.

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        1. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

          OK.
          How have they been “anti-American? And don’t give me that “apology tour” BS.
          What “forged documents” has it produced?
          Who cares if the president was raised in a Muslim country?
          The “lies and coverups” are the creation of the GOP hate machine, custom blended for morons like you.
          And I love the “emperor” stuff after 8 years of Dick Cheney and George Bush. Did you have your head up your ass the whole time?

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          1. kenndeb April 21, 2014

            Yeah. I did have my head buried in my ass. I was a democrat during those years.

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          2. Independent1 April 22, 2014

            Still evading questions dimwit?? Sandy asked you to specify for us how Obama is anti-American.. come on!! Let’s hear it!!

            Could it be like Reagan when he suckered the Air Traffic Controllers union by pretending he was going to negotiate with them, just so he could summarily fire the whole Union – setting up the beginning of DESTORYING THE FABRIC OF AMERICAN BUSINESS?? Reagan DESTROYED what had been the bond between American workers and the companies that employed them. He convinced CEOs and entrepreneurs across the country that it was more important for them to focus on rewarding stock holders than in showing any loyalty whatsoever to the people worked for them!!! Is that un-American enough for you??

            Or maybe it’s like when Reagan insisted that a battalion of Marines be deployed to Lebanon where they were in harms way, while insisting that they couldn’t carry loaded weapons which made it easy for terrorists to enter their compound and blow up a barracks that killed 241 Marines in one fell swoop!! The worst such non-wartime tragedy america ever suffered. Is that un-american enough for you??

            Or maybe it’s like Bush and Cheney not allowing the CIA 7 times to focus on trying to prevent an imminent attack from al Qaeda that resulted in 9/11 where 3,000 Americans died unnecessarily. Is that un-American enough for you??

            Or how starting a war with a country that really didn’t threaten America based on lies and distortions which ended up with over 4,400 American soldiers being killed??? Is that un-American enough for you??

            Or how about during a time of war, hoodwinking Congress into passing two tax cuts so he, Cheney and their rich buddies could pocket more money while foisting more of the tax burden on the American middle class?? Is that un-American enough for you??

            Or how about doing nothing to provide security for America’s overseas consulates and embassies such that during your time in office, there are at least 10 deadly attacks with more than 60 people, many of them Americans dying?? Is that un-American for you (the last 3 GOP presidents each allowed at least that to happen).

            Or how about being involved in a break-in at WaterGate proving that you’re so much of crook that you have to resign because it’s clear you’ll be impeached?? Is that un-American enough for you?? (no modern Democrat has ever done something like that).

            Or, how about selling the fairy tale that trickle-down economics works which has been proven a wrong countless times and has been the big catalyst for the enormous disparity between the 1-5% and the rest of America; and which an idiot party like the GOP keeps believing in which is the biggest problem facing America today??? Is that un-American enough for you??

            Those are just some examples!! Let’s hear what Obama has done to even come close to any one of those I just listed!!!!!!!!!!!

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          3. idamag April 22, 2014

            If he were emperor he could stop all elections and stay president. He could have nut jobs put in prison for spouting lies.

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        2. gmccpa April 21, 2014

          There are no ‘sealed records’. You’ve learned that from the same racists who claimed he is a Muslim and was born in another country.

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          1. kenndeb April 21, 2014

            Not only are his records sealed, and his birth place in question, but can you think of another POTUS in history that has been so anti American?

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          2. gmccpa April 22, 2014

            Really? Sealed? Tell us how they are ‘sealed’, And which court did so. I dont even think you know what a sealed record is. And his BC is NOT in question. Again, name another Pres who made his BC public.

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          3. kenndeb April 22, 2014

            Birth certificates and death certificates are public records, available to anyone, unless you are the Emperor. His was not available until his origin was questioned. Then a few different versions surfaced. Didn’t take too long for the NSA to produce one for the public to see. Barry Soetoro was the name he used on his Columbia university ID. That’s one of his aliases. Just how many lies are you willing to overlook ?

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          4. idamag April 22, 2014

            You aren’t very bright. You cannot pick someone and get a copy of their birth certificate.Now, show us a copy of your birth certificate and if we want to be nasty and stupid we can claim it is a forgery. I would also like to see your grade transcripts. Just to prove my case, I challenge you to get a bona-fide copy ofGeorge Wills’ birth certificate and post it here.

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          5. idamag April 22, 2014

            kenndeb is too stupid for discourse. I would hazard a high school drop out (at least no college), with a low IQ.

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        3. Dave B. April 21, 2014

          President Obama’s records are protected by the same laws, and to the same extent, that all such records are protected. They are neither more nor less “sealed” than yours or mine.

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          1. kenndeb April 21, 2014

            Public servants at the national level DO NOT have their school records sealed. Most people running for public office CAN produce a valid birth certificate.

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          2. Dave B. April 22, 2014

            Feel free to show where that exception is included in the law. And President Obama DID produce a valid birth certificate. Duh.

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          3. idamag April 22, 2014

            He not only produced a valid birth certificate, it was posted on television for the entire nation to see. They shut their eyes and then say they didn’t see it. He is a citizen of this country by being born to a mother who was an American citizen. During the occupations, several children were born on foreign soil. However, Hawaii is a state. So the dip fails in geography.

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          4. idamag April 22, 2014

            You aren’t very well educated. Now, tell me, if you were asked to produce your birth certificate for every nut job in the United States, would you? If you showed one certificate to a few people, should they claim it wasn’t valid? As for his grades, the fact that he was elected president of the Harvard Review shows he had to have good grades. Now, I would like to see the transcripts of your grades. Will you post them on this site?

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          5. BillP April 22, 2014

            Dave this troll thinks he is humorous by calling the president the Emperor. That is the juvenile level of thought offered by these trolls. All that this troll can do is ask a question and make inaccurate and ridiculous comments like President Obama is anti-American.
            I love when they call him a tyrant and should be prosecuted for crimes against the American people. Crimes such as ??????? Free speech, can’t be that since they write these ignorant messages all the time. Bear arms ????? the number of guns sold has increased dramatically since President Obama was elected. Nothing racially motivating all these attacks, nah!!
            Trying to explain that everyone’s school, Selective Service and other personal records are not open to public review is futile. They will just continue to say these the president’s records are sealed.

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    2. Sand_Cat April 21, 2014

      Your reply is more futile effort to dismiss the racist underpinning for the GOP position on almost everything. Why don’t they want to help the poor? Their minds picture a black freeloader.
      No doubt you are a saint immune to this, but look around at the other guys in your party.

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      1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

        “Their minds picture a black freeloader.”

        Not really. The ‘GOP position’ wants to teach the impoverished to fish, not to lavish them with free fish.

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        1. gmccpa April 21, 2014

          That’s really comical. In what way have the suggested to teach anyone to fish? Name one.

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        2. 1standlastword April 21, 2014

          “…not to lavish them with fish”…
          poles, bait or tackle IS the GOP way

          For example, where would the country be on health insurance if we waited for the GOP??!

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        3. idamag April 21, 2014

          With your views, I hope you won’t be a hypocrite and take any kind of subsidies from the government.

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      2. idamag April 21, 2014

        angels is plural and there are lots of hate groups pinpointed in California.

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  14. TZToronto April 21, 2014

    During the 2012 campaign, I heard an otherwise intelligent radio personality in Toronto call President Obama incompetent in a tone that said that everyone knows that he’s incompetent. No explanation, just an outright condemnation. Last night, I heard a right-wing friend–generally intelligent–condemn President Obama’s handling of the Ukraine situation as incompetent. When I asked him if putting U.S. troops on the ground in the Ukraine would be a good idea, he admitted that such an action would be unwise. So how is President Obama’s handling of the situation incompetent? I know how. He’s a black man, after all, so he must be incompetent, right?

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    1. dave April 21, 2014

      He got us OUT of Iraq,is getting us OUT of afghanistan,so far has KEPT us out of Iran and Syria. With all the talks going on about the ukraine and russia,so far he’s kept us OUT of that mess too. Very little respect for his efforts to keep us OUT of foreign conflicts we don’t need to stick our noses into. Would these same critics be ‘happy’ if our troops were put back in harms way again ??

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      1. TZToronto April 21, 2014

        The short answer is yes, they would be happy. After all, kicking butt is what these less-than-exceptional people want America to do. It makes them feel more powerful, in contrast with their usual feeling of impotence. Of course, they also feel the need to proclaim victory in the face of all evidence to the contrary. . . . And they’re more than happy to see the sons and (now) daughters of other people do the dirty work. (Oh, that’s not entirely fair. They also accept the deaths of their own sons and daughters if such tragedies support their vision of American exceptionalism.) President Obama–and many progressives oppose this–has used drone strikes as a substitute for American troops on the ground. It’s interesting to note that American high technology is beginning to catch up to the low-tech methods that America’s current enemies use. So if the “bad guys” want to use IEDs to kill American soldiers, drone strikes reduce the need for those American troops to be put in harm’s way. I don’t really like the drone strikes because they tend to kill innocents along with miscreants, but these strikes are better than dropping thousands of tons of bombs to achieve the same result–or using thousands of troops to find and kill the bad guys. So on balance, I think President Obama has done a good job managing America’s defense.

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        1. plc97477 April 23, 2014

          I think you nailed it.

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      2. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

        I will, sadly, have to second TZToronto’s observations. Not that there is anything wrong with the post, but it is just sad to have such a fouled up world. As well, made worse by the scum sucking (& racist) opponents of the President that would rather have a massacre of Americans to prove their evil points. And then blame the massacre they committed on Obama. This post has pretty well captured that situation. Of course, that is the kind of post I like to read. Something well written and thoughtful based on facts and truth. That is how I learn. If all we wanted were lies and hate, we all could go to Freitfart. Or listen to angelstench. . . . 🙂

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      3. idamag April 22, 2014

        If it had been up to McCain and Barber, we would have dropped a bomb on Pakistan, dropped a bomb on Iran, dropped a bomb on Yemen, dropped a bomb on Syria. Did I miss any?

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  15. ORAXX April 21, 2014

    Since the rise of Limbaugh and the rest of the right wing babble-sphere, almost any kind of speech became acceptable, just as long as the speaker made lots of noise about his or her conservatism. Racial innuendo is just a part of this pattern.

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    1. korhal April 21, 2014

      Anyone who claims the 1st Amendment as their argument for what they’re saying automatically loses the argument, because the most compelling reason they have for what they’re saying is that it’s literally not illegal to say it.

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      1. JSquercia April 21, 2014

        Sadly the courts have been complicit in all of this . They upheld the firing of a fox reporter who refused to lie . Apparently news organizations have O obligation t be truth

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        1. Independent1 April 21, 2014

          I understand that when Faux News was challenged on it’s false news reporting, Faux News insisted that it’s format was intended as entertainment not news. Yet, most right-wing wackos are so clueless, that they take the lies and distortions Faux News spews as fact when the majority of what they broadcast is clearly made up to be fake entertainment as a way for Faux News to do everything it can to denigrate our president and the Democrats. And in the process work at destroying the country for the benefit of the 1-5%.

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    2. dave April 21, 2014

      Its not all innuendo these days though. Cruz,nugent,beck and others have almost been foaming at the mouth at times in their anti-obama rhetoric.All this deep seated hatred,racism,bigotry,etc. is coming from somewhere ??. Maybe some of these great repubs are just JEALOUS because for all their popularity,they will NEVER be president !!!!!!!!

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  16. FT66 April 21, 2014

    The Whole Fox News is rotten now. Even this man Chris Wallace is no longer a person who used to be sensible. He came up with such a question while he was aware of the answer he will get. What answers did he expect? that racism has gone completely and doesn’t exist any more? I do not see nowadays reporters are using their common sense to decide which is right or wrong to report or to ask. I do not see how they are helping others to understand things? Why are there for?????

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    1. Paul Bass April 21, 2014

      In the case of Fox, they are there to promote the right’s agenda, of course!

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      1. FT66 April 21, 2014

        Yes i’m talking about Fox. They have gone over and above the normal boundary. Everything has a limit.

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  17. midway54 April 21, 2014

    Will, at last, is performing at Fox “News” and delivering his tripe. He belonged there years ago to support the rest of the clowns serving the plutocrats.

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  18. Bambi April 21, 2014

    An all white panel discussing the attributes of “black” political crybabies? Nope. Nothing racial about that attitude if you’re part of an audience of white right wingers. Appears that the ‘deranged’ smears by Fox News white pundits, alluding to two fellow Americans in Office to enforce our Constitution, is what deserves respect. Not our President or Chief Law Officer. Nope. Afterall, their both Muslims in disguise, the President was born in Kenya, Obama should be tried for Treason and Eric Holder should not receive anymore paychecks…..until he turns White.

    And now, on Meet the Press Sunday, a republican pundit said Pres.Obama lacks “manhood.” And conservative leaders are supporting this insanity. It’s an affront to the Office and is being embraced by a News organization that’s an affront to the people, lacking the values that constitute an ethical responsibility of a news agency towards our society. Denying or concealing the reality of the facts and data, is known as “Tabloid” entertainment, not news. That’s the same thing Fox’s owner, Murdock, did in London, his “real” home. Deceive the public. Self-regulatory mechanisms are not working for this Tabloid owner. The right of the people to obtain truthful information and honest opinions has been compromised, imo, by this foreign owned company known as Fox News, a tabloid circus of right wing pundits whose objective is to ‘conceal’ the reality of facts in exchange for power, status and monetary and political gain. Talk about treason……..

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    1. angelsinca April 21, 2014

      Just because of the mom jeans or the girlie-bike ride or the photoshopped shotgun or the throw-like-a-girl first pitch, or the do-not-cross-this-line-again warnings, there is no reason to doubt the president’s manhood.

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  19. De B April 21, 2014

    Both Wills and Hume sport the perfect face of American racism, white people’s disingenuous and pervasive habit of sticking their heads in the sand when racism toward blacks is mentioned. How can they be objective when they are inundated with racism by their peers, family members, neighbors and at their private associations, where they can relax in the presence of such ad hominid ignorance – it has become their normal! Alas, it’s no secret that they then fail to recognize racism in their public lives. George Will is as intelligent as Antonin Scalia, and in the same way as Scalia, uses his intelligence to discover creative ways to build hide-away niches of thought for sheltering, clothing and covering the tracks of their inherent racism.

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  20. Jambi April 21, 2014

    We could even go beyond the blatant racism…to the blatant disrespect for the office of President of the United States of America…I really didn’t care for George “W.” Bush….I disagreed with him…but I never disrespected him …

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  21. Lynda Groom April 21, 2014

    The replies of those two phonies reminds me of similar language when speaking of money. When the conversation starts with ‘its not about the money,’ it is usually about the money. Trying to dodge the question with more coded language only reinforces the argument of racism.

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  22. 1standlastword April 21, 2014

    Now where was Donna Brazil?

    Anyhow…

    If it is…and I believe it is… a duck! What can you do about it??? We can legislate equality but we will never eradicate racism so that makes it possible for people to claim racism doesn’t exist–especially when it is convenient to do so

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  23. elw April 21, 2014

    Here is the thing about people who are not comfortable with anyone who is different than them and therefore hates them, they will never understand or accept that they are racists. They just do not get it and do not want to get it or change. To them Holder and Obama made the mistake of stepping out of their place and therefore it is their fault and they deserve what they get. I have neighbors who still use terms like “Jew them down,” as if it is OK. I had one lady tell me that the only reason the neighbor across the street is married to a black lady is because it was the best he could do (you should see his wife, she is beautiful, smart and one of the nicest people on the block). These are older people who grew up when those kind of thoughts and feelings were acceptable and have not been able to grow with the Country. The Country is full of them. The good new they are dying out and their outdated ideas are going with them. There is hope for the future, even if it seems to be taking forever. I know that I am much more comfortable with people who are different then me than my parents were, and my children are more comfortable than me; shoot my grandkids will even date Conservatives – now how much more open than that can you get.

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  24. herchato April 21, 2014

    Some how some way the people in the south need to pull themselves out of the 1860s.

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  25. tdm3624 April 21, 2014

    I don’t think the attacks against President Obama or his administration are any more vicious than the attacks against Presidents Bush and Clinton. I especially remember the venom directed against Bush for Katrina, and Clinton for the assault weapons ban and ‘don’t ask don’t tell’.

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    1. Patryck F. Buckley Smith April 21, 2014

      There are racial overtones with nearly everything that this President does that doesn’t meet the with GOP approval. It’s more subtle within the halls Congress and more blatant in townhall meetings.

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      1. flyinjs April 22, 2014

        “Real feelings” are at the town hall meetings as distorted as they may sometimes be.

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    2. idamag April 21, 2014

      List them and we can compare. List the authors, too.

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  26. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

    To the blog. I make no claim to be popular, but our “beloved” angel claims that I am abusing all the posters and running people off. Of course, that is what I accused him of. So, as angel neither tells the truth, nor has an original idea, I challenged “it” to a contest.

    I said, why don’t WE GIVE IT A VOTE. I have been at angel for weeks and he has avoided answering until recently. All I got was lame excuses that reminded me of an old Abbott and Costello routine. Like the scene with John Belushi and Carrie Fisher in “The Blues Brothers.” Just yada yada yada.

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    1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

      Well, let’s assume that I am not popular, and just address how much angel is liked. Will a vote prove anything? Yes, certainly. Can angel’s behavior be corrected. Absolutely no, but I know angel fears the outcome of a vote. What this will do is take away one of the principal tools that he employs to disrupt and harass. It may even be useful to evidence to National Memo and even Mother Jones too.

      Just post a reply and I or anyone the bloggers care to assign, can add up the total. The only rule, NO GUEST responses allowed. Angel’s dishonesty is far too well known to me from some of the similar stunts he pulled in the past.

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      1. Russell Byrd April 21, 2014

        So, why don’t we have a little “game.” Do this for yourselves, not me. I assume I am unpopular. Yet, do this for the blogs and to take away for all time angels favorite make weight that everything is someone else’s fault, whether in the world or in these blogs. In other words, always a liberal’s fault.

        Angel has stated plainly that these are only “minor liberal blogs.” Yet when I ask him why he degrades himself to come here, he dodges the question. He also told me at our first real encounter some years back, that “it” is here to “educate” us and close down conversation in these blogs. I could go on for hours, but this is already too much.

        My proposal is simple. Let’s vote on it. As I said, I don’t feel all that popular or welcome. So post a reply that merely states, pro-angel, anti-angel, no angel, yes angel, or even anti-russ, or pro-russ. But I am more interested in “angels” popularity with the regular posters. Angel claims to be well respected here, while I am a the abuser. So let us test angel’s theory.

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        1. idamag April 22, 2014

          Stay with us. I like you.

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        2. flyinjs April 22, 2014

          I like you too! Stay I always learn from you and others here.

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  27. charlie tango April 21, 2014

    There are good men who can serve this nation, some are men of color, Barry Soetoro is not one of them. Call me a racist, you are only proving your inability to accept a view point opposing your own. And I support the Tea Party, because they want accountability for everyone who serves in office, this offends your communist dogma, but I don’t care

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    1. CamCubed April 21, 2014

      If all the Tea Party stood for was government accountability, they’d be a lot more popular than they are. Indeed, in the TP’s early months, they gained a lot of support from a broad swath of Americans who were lured in by the TP’s promise to focus on the problems of government opaqueness that so plagued the Bush Administration (and still pervades the Obama Administration).

      But then a lot of that support eroded when it became clear that for the TP, government accountability took the back seat to the tired, tired, tired, old cry of “lower taxes” and anti-progressivism, mainly with Birchian flavors of red-baiting. Like you’re doing.

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      1. charlie tango April 21, 2014

        Long live Castro comrad! What he did for his people!
        And now the vestiges of Chavez liberating the people, so sorry about the Bolivar!

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        1. Scott Lanway April 21, 2014

          So no counter for Cam’s spot-on points, then?

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      2. idamag April 22, 2014

        Actually, when they started, I did go to a tp rally. The signs and the speeches were horrible. Not my cup of tea.

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    2. Robert Eckert February 23, 2015

      “Call me a racist” No need.

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  28. Hughes Hunt April 22, 2014

    Money, Fear,Greed, Stupidity, and Fox News 24/7 Propaganda, online and offline, via corporate-owned media, have demoralized, dumbed down and terrorized a lot of people into submission and inaction, without guts nor common sense, so that they do not even defend themselves anymore by fighting back, or exercising the power of their votes, for their own best interests, due to racism, hatred or the wrong reasons. Despite being victorious finally with health care reform that has been jumping out at them for 102 years since 1912, when former President Theodore Roosevelt unsuccessfully attempted to introduce national health insurance for the first time in history, many Americans easily get misled by well-organized, well-financed GOP (Greedy Obstructionist Psychopaths) who lie and distort facts, 24/7. Get smart. Never give up fighting for your inalienable rights. A good offense is the best defense. You are whom you vote for. Whether you realize it or not, you are complicit in having voted for those scumbags, that is, congressional Republicans and 30 GOP governors- the big, real Death Panels in disguise, for having refused their own constituents the benefits of health care and expanded Medicare, Medicaid. Despite David Koch’s unsuccessful attempt to run for the White House in 1980, it did not stop him from having systematically implemented his very own platform via puppet Congressional Republicans for the past 34 years. You are partly to blame for having knowingly voted for corrupt, criminal, deceitful, lying political frauds in Congress who have enacted bills into laws eschewed to further enrich themselves and their billionaire campaign donors disguised as corporations with tax breaks, corporate welfare, oil and farm subsidies and tax loopholes. You complain about being made poorer with hardly enough money to survive on, no jobs, no decent living wages, no bright future, cut Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, social safety nets. Yet you keep voting for career criminals in Congress against your best interests. Moreover, you prefer fighting each other over crumbs and left overs instead of putting a stop to the root cause of the problem, that is, the Koch brothers who have controlled congressional Republicans, 30 Republican governors with the power of their money, for far too long. SOLUTION: WEALTH TAX on top wealthy one percent to balance income inequality. 5% to 10% annual tax on all assets — stocks, bonds, real estate, natural resources, art, yachts, etc. – owned by individuals with a net worth of a least $1 billion. Extreme income inequality is harmful to growth of the GDP. You know fully well that Single Payer insurance or Medicare for all is the best option but you allow and condone for-profit insurance companies to conspire with the well-financed, well-organized Greedy Obstructionist Psychopathic -Tea Potties in Congress and 30 Republican governors and legislatures against your best interests. Who are you waiting for to do the work for you to solve your problems? How do you sleep at night knowing that Congressional GOP-TP and 30 Republican governors have been conspiring to deprive you systematically, for the past 40 years, of your inalienable rights, including health care insurance? Don’t you have a burning desire to change to make the U.S.A. a better place for yourself, your family, children and generations after them? Stop! Look! Don’t you hear that metaphorical oncoming train of destruction headed toward you? Republicans-Tea Potties are the problem and they hide it subtly through 24/7 propaganda of all sorts, online and offline- via the best congress that money can buy. Truth be told, the republican party is really one big death panel in disguise. Be very alarmed. Think about your future and take action, before it is too late, now or never!

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  29. booker25 April 24, 2014

    Fox the 24/7 republican spin/hate macine

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  30. paulyz April 25, 2014

    This discussion has been on the National Memo before. The politics of constantly using race to attack the differences in opinions of others does nothing to unite anyone or help solve any of our most serious problems.

    Most Conservatives I know would gladly vote for a politician that upholds our Constitution, stops the taxing and deficit spending, & downsizes the huge growth and control of the Federal Government, regardless of their race or ethnicity. Indeed, many people I know would like very much to see Dr. Ben Carson, Allen West, and previously Herman Cain become President. Many White people DID vote for Obama only to be disappointed in his failed policies and debt, and has NOTHING to do with race.

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    1. Robert Eckert February 23, 2015

      The only black people you would consider voting for have zero political abilities and come across as practically mentally ill (seriously mentally ill in the case of Allen West).

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