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Stephen Miller's blurt on travel ban doomed it in court

Reprinted with permission from Media Matters.

Senior presidential advisor Stephen Miller’s February 21 admission of intent on Fox News has ensnared President Donald Trump’s proposed Muslim ban in its second attempted rollout.

The Trump administration’s first version of the likely unconstitutional Muslim ban was previously blocked by multiple federal judges, and one of the decisions was already unanimously upheld by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit. The 9th Circuit court noted that Trump and his supporters’ previous statements expressing their intent to discriminate on the basis of religion and ban Muslim immigration can “be used in proceedings” to prove the policy’s unconstitutionality.

For example, Trump advisor Rudy Giuliani admitted to Fox News that after Trump announced the original “Muslim ban” the then-presidential candidate asked Giuliani to show him “the right way to do it legally.”

On March 6, Trump enacted a slightly altered version of the first Muslim ban, hoping to avoid judicial concerns with the possible unconstitutionality of the original. This new “Muslim Ban 2.0” was also immediately challenged and on March 15, the U.S. District Court for the District of Hawaii issued a temporary restraining order on the ban.

In addition to referencing Giuliani’s admission of the unconstitutional religious discrimination behind the original ban, the district court’s decision also cites Miller’s February 21 appearance on Fox News. In that interview, while defending the second version of the Muslim ban currently under challenge, Miller argued that “nothing was wrong with the first executive order” and admitted to host Martha MacCallum that this redraft of Trump’s executive order would be designed to “have the same basic policy outcome” as Trump’s original rejected Muslim ban.

As the court explained, “These plainly-worded statements, made in the months leading up to and contemporaneous with the signing of the Executive Order, and, in many cases, made by the Executive himself, betray the Executive Order’s stated secular purpose. Any reasonable, objective observer would conclude, as does the Court for purposes of the instant Motion for TRO, that the stated secular purpose of the Executive Order is, at the very least, “secondary to a religious objective” of temporarily suspending the entry of Muslims.” From the February 21 edition of Fox News’ The First 100 Days:

MARTHA MACCALLUM (HOST): So, everybody is anticipating the next rollout of the next executive order, which is supposed to clarify some of the issues that were perhaps wrong with the first one and then got too caught up in the courts. So how is it going to be different this time?

STEPHEN MILLER: Well, nothing was wrong with the first executive order. However, there was a flawed judicial ruling that was erroneous. The president recently read the statute from the Immigration and Nationality Act, which clearly states, he has the power as president to impose any restrictions he deems necessary when it’s in the national interest.

However, because of the exigency of the situation and the need to protect our country, and to protect our citizens, the president is going to be issuing a new executive action based off of the judicial ruling, flawed though it may be, to protect our country and to keep our people safe, and that is going to be coming very soon.

MACCALLUM: Alright. Grant Burschet is 18 years old, but he wants to know specifically how the second order is going to be different.

MILLER: Well, one of the big differences that you’re going to see in the executive order is that it’s going to be responsive to the judicial ruling, which didn’t exist previously. And so these are mostly minor technical differences. Fundamentally, you’re still going to have the same basic policy outcome for the country, but you’re going to be responsive to a lot of very technical issues that were brought up by the court and those will be addressed. But in terms of protecting the country, those basic policies are still going to be in effect.

IMAGE: Senior White House Advisor Stephen Miller waits to go on the air in the White House Briefing Room, February 12, 2017.  REUTERS/Joshua Roberts

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115 Comments

  1. dbtheonly March 16, 2017

    Trump’s goal is to make the image the reality. What happens when that image is the very thing causing the problems?

    The absurdities in Muslim Ban 2.0 are obvious, Suddenly Iraqis are no longer dangerous. But the article suggests it might have passed muster if Miller had stated that, “We’ve taken the court opinion to heart and have corrected the errors they pointed out.”

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    1. FireBaron March 16, 2017

      But it still bans Afghanis who worked with our military, and puts a “hold” on Syrian refugees, claiming they are doing so because they want to make sure the vetting process works. I guess 18 to 24 months of being on hold, usually in a refugee camp, while being continually interviewed to prove a four-year-old is not a threat isn’t good enough for them.
      The one that really pisses me off is the one where they want to fast-track Christian Syrian refugees but put the brakes on Muslim or Druze Syrian Refugees.

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      1. dbtheonly March 16, 2017

        Is the Christian fast track in 2.0? I hadn’t paid attention.

        Remember that the very arguments we use today will be trotted out against the next Democratic President. Traditionally the President has been given wide latitude in foreign matters.

        This is Trump. What, honestly, can we expect from him?

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        1. Mama Bear March 16, 2017

          This is actually Bannon. I do think Trump is just the front man in this con.

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          1. dpaano March 21, 2017

            As I’ve said many times….Bannon is merely the puppet master…much like Cheney was to GWB! You saw where that got us, right? Someone needs to get rid of this pariah….but I don’t think 45 could govern without someone to whisper in his ear what he’s supposed to do!

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        2. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

          If you caught his speech in Memphis last night, you’d have seen for sure who his “supporters” are. Most were middle aged creeps who all too obviously are too stupid to live. They cheered when Trump the Egotist in Chief asked how many would boo Obama.

          So now we can verify that Tennessee is still a backward, Confederate state that only wants the rest of us to work to keep them bone idle on welfare.

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    2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 16, 2017

      Absurdity is the word—but we might also add, “Expediency”, “Ulterior Motives”, “appeasement of base desires and and inordinate fears”.

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      1. dpaano March 21, 2017

        This so-called “ban” is merely a figment of 45’s paranoid mind!

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  2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 16, 2017

    The chickens just keep coming home to roost, and thanks to Hawaii, Washington, and a few other states, more chickens are on their way. Trump’s big, boisterous, and pompous mouth will be his undoing, and will feature prominently on his epitaph and the scroll he presents upon entering the next realm.
    It remains to be seen if Trump decides to further embarrass himself before the world by attempting to take his lame and shameful case to the SCOTUS. I’m willing to bet he isn’t THAT stupid, but with the Donald and his ego, anything is possible.

    Concerning ego, Trump, Bannon, Pence, the alt-Right, FOX, the GOP, Rep. Steven King of Iowa, and Putin, immediately come to mind when pondering the dangers posed by unfettered egos.

    Let’s consider this property purposefully inserted into the profile of all humans, as a result of the inscrutable Wisdom of the Creator. Why give us this potential that if unchained leads to misery not only for the individual but for others around us—even now, capable of impacting the lives of others across the world in a flash nowadays. Baha’u’llah at several places describe the ego as the “Satan”, which we all have seen references to in the Books of God through all the Messengers. AT one time, humans were presented the image of Satan as some supernatural corporeal being, cast out of heaven, and charged by God to interfere in the affairs of mortals. On reading these accounts, the natural instinct of humans was to take this literally, and thus arose a variety of myths, descriptions, and what not to try to understand this imagery. But in certain Tablets of Baha’u’llah , and those of Abdu’l Baha who is secondary in station compared to that of Baha’u’llah, we see “Satan” accurately portrayed as our inner selves that decide to exceed the bounds of moderation. Quite a more grown-up way of thinking of the concept “Satan” compared to humanity’s previous conceptions.

    With this liberating perception, we’re able to see deeply the nature of the damage inflicted on those whose “satanic” impulses are impelled to seize the rational process and lead to all manner of anti-social “anti-Christ” behaviors.

    A couple of samples from some talks by Abdu’l Baha might help to illustrate this:

    1) “Without cooperation and reciprocal attitude the individual member of human society remains self-centered, uninspired by altruistic purposes, limited and solitary in development like the animal and plant organisms of the lower kingdoms.”

    “This lower nature in man is symbolized as Satan – the evil ego within us, not an evil personality outside.”

    2) “The reality underlying this question is that the evil spirit, Satan or whatever is interpreted as evil, refers to the lower nature in man. This baser nature is symbolized in various ways… If you should leave a man uneducated and barbarous in the wilds of Africa, would there be any doubt about his remaining ignorant? God has never created an evil spirit; all such ideas and nomenclature are symbols expressing the mere human or earthly nature of man. It is an essential condition of the soil of earth that thorns, weeds and fruitless trees may grow from it. Relatively speaking, this is evil; it is simply the lower state and baser product of nature.

    It is evident, therefore, that man is in need of divine education and inspiration, that the spirit and bounties of God are essential to his development.”

    So, from the above, we catch a better understanding of what is the genesis and stimulus of what troubles the minds of Trump, Bannon, Putin, and others who feel a constant urge to overstep the boundaries of moderation and restraint.

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  3. itsfun March 16, 2017

    The decision of a unelected person using his own political views to try and destroy our national security is a travesty of our system and justice. The Constitution gives the President the power to do exactly what the President wants to do. When judges use partisan politics to make decisions affecting the security of the United States, it time to remove that “judge” Our country is just becoming a nation of judge hunting and not of justice. President Trump will win this in the Supreme Court, but how many Americans will die at the hands of terrorists while we wait for this decision? The blood of those murdered will be on the hands of liberal judges.

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    1. Wolf March 16, 2017

      The only blood shed on American soil in the last few years has been acts perpetrated by converts who were already American Citizens (either born or legally immigrated). Even the major Paris attacks was done by converted French and Belgium nationalists. So perhaps we need to do something about the propaganda, not a thinly veiled ban on sects of people.

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    2. Lola Johnson March 16, 2017

      Good question, itsfun. How many Americans DID die at the hands of foreign terrorists since the original rule was struck down? How many in the past year?? How many in the past 5 years?? donnie’s problem is that he can’t convince a judge that there is an immediate threat sufficient to negate the constitution.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

        That’s why even if this does go to the SC, the SC will still have to look at the fact that Trump himself publicly stated that these refugees and immigrants “might become terrorists.”

        But, his real fallacy is when he tries to fabricate a reality that doesn’t exist and the SC will immediately zero in on. He keep saying he and ONLY he will keep this country safe. Obama kept it safe for 8 years, a fact Trump detests.

        The SC has no choice but to look at how many of the countries he is banning have EVER actually been involved in any terrorist actions. Since there have been none on US soil by Iranians which is his real target, he is about to be blown out of the water with his fantasies that these people must be banned because they “might” some day become terrorists.

        The military is already saying that Trump is causing huge risks for the military in the Middle East because they often rely on undercover agents to do their jobs. Now that Trump’s big mouth is bashing hell out of these people, these agents won’t help the US military.

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        1. dpaano March 21, 2017

          That also goes for the American Muslims who have been detrimental in letting police know about individuals in their neighborhoods who seem to have become radicalized! As it stands now, they will no longer help the local police departments with important information.

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      2. itsfun March 16, 2017

        Can we start with 9/11, or California or Florida?

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

          Yes. Let’s I live in NJ. I live in the state where the blind Jersey City Imam from Saudi Arabia was “training” terrorists.

          9 of the terrorists who flew planes into Tower 1 and Tower 2 were Saudis. Think you have the nuts to admit that? So..why isn’t Saudi Arabia or Pakistan banned?

          I guess when you suck up to Putin like you do, you can’t admit the countries Trump banned have everything to do with Trump’s stupid idea he is helping Russia increase its oil sale by banning the oil richest country in the middle east: Iran.

          Boy are you too stupid to live.

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        2. Bill P March 16, 2017

          Well then let’s ban all travel from Saudi Arabia since 15 of the 19 terrorists on the planes that crashed into buildings and a field were Saudis. You failed to mention places like Sandy Hook Ct, Charleston SC, Tucson Az where Gabby Giffords was shot, Aurora Co, etc. All these shootings were done by US citizens. Why don’t you do some research before you posed your slanted questions.

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          1. dpaano March 21, 2017

            ITsy doesn’t believe in doing research…..his idea of “critical thinking” is to believe anything that the GOP tells him to believe.

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    3. Chuckl8 March 16, 2017

      For those who don’t know, “itsfun” is a paid alt-right troll who posts this sort of drivel all over the web.

      And no, the constitution certainly does NOT give a president the “power to do exactly what the president wants to do.”

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

        Itsy has nothing else to do with his/her life. He doesn’t even change his underwear on a daily basis and so sits at “its” computer stinking to high heavens.

        Itsy wants Trump for his/her Savior and oh boy is Itsy in for the worst nightmare yet to come.

        There are those of us who know Trump from daily media blurbs here in the Metro area for 30 years. Itsy loves a nude First Lady because Itsy is mentally defective. So you can bet Itsy will be the first Bannon will take to the ovens.

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      2. itsfun March 16, 2017

        when will I be getting my first check? The President has the constitutional power to protect our nation from foreign attacks and terrorists.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

          Don’t hold your breath. There are 4400 people here in NJ who worked in Trump’s 2 hotels and casinos waiting for their last paycheck from 2013. There are also dozens of contractors he didn’t pay. If I were you, I’d get a great lawyer, because like those 4400, you are going to need one.

          Do you worship at the statue of Putin Itsy? The president doesn’t have the power to ban people who have NEVER committed an act of terrorism. What about that don’t you get?

          Why is he not banning Saudi Arabia who gave us bin Laden? Or Pakistan that hid bin Laden until OUR president, Obama ordered him to be taken down?

          Face facts. You make yourself a hated American, endanger your life by supporting a mental defective like Trump and then think you will force your criminal opinions on the rest of us?

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        2. Jinmichigan March 16, 2017

          Does not mean he can violate the constitution in doing so. Pretty tough concept for you.

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          1. itsfun March 17, 2017

            The Constitution gives him the power to protect our nation.

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          2. Jinmichigan March 17, 2017

            Only if he follows it. Geez. If not, he will be impeached.

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        3. Chuckl8 March 16, 2017

          That is NOT what you wrote: “power to do exactly what the president wants to do.”

          Even a troll like yourself can see the big difference between what you wrote then, and what you wrote now. That’s called a “lie.”

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          1. itsfun March 16, 2017

            What I meant is the constitution gives the power to the President to do what he wants to do to protect the country from foreign attacks and terrorists. Not a lie, just more of a whiner trying to interrupt words like a crooked politician.

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          2. Chuckl8 March 16, 2017

            “What I meant is”? B.S. You lied and you can’t admit it. Hell, not only are you a liar, you’re an illiterate liar. No one “interrupted” you. They were YOUR words. You got caught in a lie. But admitting that is impossible for you, isn’t it? You’d rather swallow glass than admit you were wrong, even when using a screen name. That is sick.

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          3. itsfun March 17, 2017

            I said the President has the Constitutional power to protect our nation. No liar here, except you trying to put spin on what someone says. You are just making things up like the liar and jerk you are.

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          4. dpaano March 21, 2017

            I think Itsy is pulling a “Trump” or is trying to “conroy” us!

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          5. Chuckl8 March 21, 2017

            Yup, a Tea-Rump Con job for sure.

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        4. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 16, 2017

          You’re acting as a “foreign” agent by your churlish behavior, much like a parasite that has settled, nice and cozy, in the body politic of America.

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    4. ray March 16, 2017

      fk you

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

        Itsy is doing what all narrow minded, feeblebrained right wingers always do: Ignore the fact that no matter which president is elected, ALL must first abide by the Constitution.

        Dipshit Itsy would know that if Itsy didn’t spend so much time on Breitbart and kissing Putin ass.

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        1. Mama Bear March 16, 2017

          or if he could read and pass a comprehension test.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

            What I find most offensive is how Trump manages to smooth over lies as serious as the one he told the public about President Obama wire tapping his phones. He used those words, “wiretapped my phones in Trump Tower.”

            When he was asked by Tucker Carlson why he said that, Trump glibly as only the glib Trump liar can, said, “Well I saw it in the NY Times and it was also what Bret Baer said.”

            The NY Times? The one Trump publicly called “dishonest news?” But now Trump relies on the NY Times to lie about Obama to bloat the overbloated Trump ego?

            Trump knows that the minute it was found he had NO Proof of his lie, it would all blow over because he so relies on public attention being easily distracted by his “next lie.”

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          2. Mama Bear March 16, 2017

            notice how long it took him to come up with an alternate fact? I’m sure it took hours of committee meetings in the Oval to arrive and that one.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

            If there is one thing we all need to know about Trump, it is that he never spends more than 10 minutes of his all too limited attention on anything. That he has had to stay focused on government is more on his plate than he can digest and he knows it.

            His style has always been, “Point and delegate.” That’s why he has been sued more times than all 44 presidents have. It’s also why he ends up with 151 federal lawsuits that results in fines.

            His habit is to just “scan” any of the documents he has to sign. Now you know why the Republicans need him in office. They know he pays no attention to details and he will sign off on things they know we will end up paying for.

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          4. dpaano March 21, 2017

            I agree….like the one that he signed allowing Bannon to be at the NSA briefings! He later said he didn’t realize that he had signed that EO! God only knows what Bannon and Miller put in front of him to sign!

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          5. dpaano March 21, 2017

            But, Eleanore, he says he has positive proof and he’s going to show it to us in a week or so…..should we hold our breaths? He’s said that before about many things….i.e., his tax returns, and we’re still waiting! If the FBI, NSA, etc., all say that President Obama did NOT wiretap 45’s phone, you can believe that it didn’t happen no matter what the orange-haired idiot says! IF he has “proof,” you can be guaranteed that it’s another bunch of lies that he got from Breitbart or FAUX News!

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      2. Mama Bear March 16, 2017

        very well said:)

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      3. itsfun March 16, 2017

        Such an intelligent reply.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

          You have NO intelligence. So, your replies are dim witted scraps of scripts from your Liar in Chief.

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          1. David March 17, 2017

            Eleanore!!! Coming from a stupid liar, where does that put your replies?

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          2. dpaano March 21, 2017

            Itsy just “parrots” whatever he hears on FAUX News or Breitbart! He has no ability to think for himself or to do his homework! It’s unfortunate because most of 45’s followers are the same way. They will soon learn that his promises during the campaign are empty!

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        2. ray March 16, 2017

          FK you again dip sh-t.

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          1. itsfun March 16, 2017

            Another intelligent reply. Your name calling is just the way a weak mind tries to express its self.

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          2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 16, 2017

            Do you post to make a point and to influence people to take a different look, or do you post just to be an ass and to make people steer clear of you. Your life must be miserable given the attitude you daily display.

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    5. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

      The Constitution does not give the president ABSOLUTE power. It gives the president as he well knows when he is sworn in to “uphold the Constitution of the United States.” Therefore, before you accord Trump any extraordinary executive privilege, you need to stop fashioning your version of the Constitution which NEVER gave any single individual autonomous power.

      ALL POWER GIVEN TO THE PRESIDENT AND EXECUTIVE branch of government comes from Constitutional law. Nothing more, nothing less. Sorry but your games are up.

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    6. mimi March 16, 2017

      The Judicial Branch is doing what they’re responsible for–which is dealing with the constitutionality of laws, or in this case, an EO. WE do not discriminate against any religion (remember Westboro we had to put up with?). The Executive Branch is responsible for enforcing laws in accordance with the Constitution and any EO coming out of the WHouse must conform to Constitutional Law. (Opine: A president does not have the power to run his tank roughshod over the Constitution, as trump and minions thinks he can, and if the republicans had the smallest amount of bravery or if they were as patriotic as they want us to think they are, trump would be charged with treason, among other charges.) The Legislative Branch is the central core–where laws are made and most often are amended, and with a republican Congress, their laws will be targeted against the working people and coddled with the moneyed class.

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      1. Mama Bear March 16, 2017

        are you familiar with the biblical phrase “casting your pearls before the swine”?
        These trolls are the swine and they are paid by how many responses they generate. I block all of them and do my part in starving them.

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      2. itsfun March 16, 2017

        The liberals discriminated against a baker whose religion forbade her from serving a group of people. The executive order is constitutional and the constitution gives the President the power to protect our nation from enemies both foreign and domestic. Your hero Obama spent 8 years getting around the constitution. He changed the ACA implementations dates that were written into the law. He didn’t have the authority to change any law. Your Dems in congress allowed him to get away with that unconstitutional act. The Republicans did not have a large enough advantage to do anything about it. The Democrats have proven they will do anything to get their own way. Look at Harry Reid using the nuclear option to pass the ACA. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, the left is crying foul. Get used to it, we have a new sheriff in town and he will drain the swamp.

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    7. Jinmichigan March 16, 2017

      Win in the SCOTUS? Wanna bet? I told you before that trump* calling for a Muslim ban thousands of times during the campaign was going to doom this EO. Everyone with a brain knows the intent of this EO. I guess we know where that leaves you.

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      1. itsfun March 16, 2017

        Do you not understand the SCOTUS will not be just another arm of the Democratic Party?

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        1. Jinmichigan March 16, 2017

          Do you not understand what “unconstitutional” is? Party has zero to do with it. trump* did it to himself. If only he would learn to keep his mouth shut.

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          1. itsfun March 18, 2017

            The President will win his appeal to the 4th district federal court and get his EO approved. Then if it goes to the Supreme Court, it will either be a 4-4 tie and the President wins, or it will be a 5-4 win for the President.

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          2. Jinmichigan March 18, 2017

            Right after they rename Airforce One, the FLYING PIG.

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          3. itsfun March 18, 2017

            The President will win and so will our nation. You probably believe crooked Hillary won.

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          4. Jinmichigan March 18, 2017

            You just showed everyone how poorly informed you are by calling Clinton the crooked one.

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          5. itsfun March 19, 2017

            If you believe crooked Hillary is not crooked, you have not followed the news at all. Did you see where Donna Brazil admitted giving the debate questions to Hillary? If Hillary had any character or honor, she would have been open with that and would have asked the committee to form new questions.

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          6. Jinmichigan March 19, 2017

            Funny stuff coming from a trump* supporter. No one is more crooked than trump* and only trump* supporters are too stupid and dishonest to admit it.

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          7. itsfun March 19, 2017

            President Trump is NOT crooked. He is our President and he beat the crooked one.

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          8. dpaano March 21, 2017

            It’s already been said that he’s committed several impeachable actions with his big mouth! He’s given away confidential information in his tweets and his comments. If he keeps it up….he’s going to find out that he WILL be impeached…..they will HAVE to impeach him because the laws are pretty strict about giving out confidential information. If he’d just attend some of the security briefings instead of running off each week-end to play golf, he would learn what he can and can’t say!! Apparently, golf every week-end (on OUR money, by the way) is more important to him that keeping the country safe!

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    8. Starde March 16, 2017

      You are allowing a fear monger to manipulate your mind its fun. The largest religious population are Muslims. Look it up! Muslims have been in America for centuries. Running their businesses and living among Americans in peace. We have seen Christians bomb America yet we do not villainize them in mass. Remember the Oklahoma bombing? So why target ALL Muslims if we are not going to target all Christians. This is what Hitler did to the Jews. Hate mongers are dangerous people. They divide instead of unite. Some Saudis were proven to attack the World Trade Building but since Trump does business with them, he is allowing them to come in the country. They are not even part of the Muslim ban. Don’t you think that if Donald Trump really wanted to protect America, those Arab nations who he does business with, especially those who have been proven to have attacked the WTC, should be on Trump’s travel ban. Yet they are not because he does business with them. That should tell you something right there It’s Fun. Think!!!!

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      1. itsfun March 16, 2017

        No one is targeting all Muslims. The countries the President wants to ban temporary has only 8 or 9 % of the Muslim population in the world. The President wants to stop terrorists from entering this country. What % of the terrorists do you think are Muslim? Trying to compare what President Trumps wants to do to protect our nation to Hitler is just plain stupid. Were the 9/11 terrorists from Saudis Muslim? President Trump is not doing business with anyone or any country since he has become President. He has resigned from the boards. I hope you don’t lose any family members to terrorists. Many have and many more will if we keep allowing terrorists to enter our nation.

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    9. latebloomingrandma March 16, 2017

      You need to read up on the balance of power between the 3 branches of gov’t.

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      1. itsfun March 16, 2017

        I know all about the balance of power.

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  4. Mama Bear March 16, 2017

    Here is a dark thought….how will the world deal with all the American refugees running from the fascist rules in another year or so? There will be a bloody fight here and some will flee. Who will be kind enough to take us in?

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    1. Starde March 16, 2017

      MaMa Bear, before Americans leave the country, the traitors sitting in the White House will be and should be thrown out. Are you saying the few can force the many out? Not if the many gather against the few. It is only the Trump Administration that needs to be forced out. Cut off the head of the snake and the rest of the body dies. Our military are the children of Americans. Would the military turn on its own for the sake of an Administration of privileged crooks? Obvious crooks who are inciters, fear mongers and liars. We have to look at history and learn from it. Trump’s first wife I believe, said Trump kept a copy of Mein Kampf by his bedside, Whether he read all of it is debatable since they say Trump can barely read. Why are the idiots being allowed to control this country? His selection is truly a condemnation of the American people. Before elected he said statements like he had “sex” in common with his own daughter. Bannon ran a magazine that supported a pedophile. Trump has been screaming “Fake news” to confuse the fools who support him and also to tie the media’s hands who report the true facts about him. Trump showed his hatred for women, people of color and even said Dumb people are his greatest supporters. He encouraged his supporters to beat up those who booed him at his rallies. This is the man we all saw, yet he was put in to rule the land. A rich man who will end up taking healthcare from his very foolish supporters. Who has already put out a health plan more expensive than Obamacare. Yet his supporters are so brainwashed by their own bigotry they would support issues that go against their own good. Americans do not have to leave their own country. They only need to wake up and rise up against the Trump Administration. Imprisoning the entire lot for treason.

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      1. Mama Bear March 16, 2017

        from your lips to god’s ear, my friend. I do believe the Trumpites will take up arms and fight us or anyone who tries to impeach or otherwise remove or resist this narcissistic Humpty Trumpty regime. I also believe they will fight to the death – which is not a bad thing actually. His supporters are terminally ignorant of reality. It has bothered me a lot that most of his “cabinet” members and close advisors are military though.

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        1. dpaano March 21, 2017

          Being that there are a lot of military people in his administration means nothing….there are MORE veterans in the U.S. than he has in his administration, and if we can only make a majority of them see that 45 is NOT going to do anything for them…..they may stand up and fight with everyone else!

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      2. dpaano March 21, 2017

        One of the problems is that most of his uninformed followers don’t understand that Obamacare is the SAME as the ACA. They think these are two different programs and if they repeal Obamacare, they’ll still have the ACA! Foolish people will believe anything!

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    2. dpaano March 21, 2017

      I’m hoping for Canada….I hear the eastern part of Canada is very beautiful this time of the year!

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    3. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 23, 2017

      I truly feel DONNY DUMP being the clown he is its only a matter of time before he gets his very sorry butt booted out of the house and if lucky booted right into a prison cell jail the clown let him find the guys B/F of his life there to end his evil life with

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  5. FT66 March 16, 2017

    This is quite bizarre. How can a country be run by people who have no experience, no skills and no choice of words in whatever they say. A good example is this young lad Miller.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

      They aren’t running the country anymore…Bannon is. Bannon is to Trump what Goebels was to Hitler. Goebels always knew all he had to do to get Hitler to act on his “advice” was to slather it in Hitler’s ego.

      This is how sick a man Trump really is. And, this shows “why” he attracts sick minds to him just as Hitler always attracted the weakest in the German population.

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      1. Mama Bear March 16, 2017

        sadly, Eleanore, I think you are right on the money. Bannon is running things and he is one sick pup.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

          As most of us older seniors recall, Josef Goebbels was was a German politician and Reich Minister of Propaganda of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945. He was also Hitler’s trusted friend and colleague, to the key post of minister for public enlightenment and propaganda. Sound like Bannon yet?

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        2. dpaano March 21, 2017

          You’ll notice he’s never very far from 45….even when 45 takes his many trips to Mar-a-Lago! It’s like they’re glued at the hip!

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          1. Mama Bear March 21, 2017

            I sometimes think in cartoons…I know, sick. But…when I think of Humpty Trumpty and Bannon I see a small dummy sitting on Bannon’s knee with that orange hair and a dumb grin.

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      2. mimi March 16, 2017

        Yes, exactly. I’ve been saying what you posted for the past year. Have people forgotten how easily Germany was overrun by hateful rhetoric? How promises made to them were fashioned to fit the current activities? All the way to the end young boys were enlisted by their Ps to protect their leader, thinking he had a secret weapon.
        The same rhetoric is music to the ears of those who are led into the mire by fear–afraid to look beyond their shells. The U.S. grew strong by assimilation, every group had and has something to offer. The initial shock of differences wears off if given time and space. Reach out and learn.

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      3. dpaano March 21, 2017

        He’s what Cheney was to GWB….the puppet master!

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  6. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

    In reality, top constitutional professors all seem to allude to the same Constitutional point which the SC will also come down to even if Trump’s sleeper on the SC is appointed.

    The problem with the travel ban has more to do with “which” countries he chose and “which” countries he omitted.

    He keeps insisting that the countries he banned are the ones who “will become” terrorists all while ignoring his business liaisons with Saudis who ARE the ones who gave us bin Laden.

    Does Trump seriously expect the SC to approve a ban on people who have not committed a single terrorist act but somewhere in the future might? All while Trump ignores how many white supremacist terrorists HE is inciting?

    Just a week ago, in Kansas some dumb ass hick murdered a Sikk in plain sight because he thought he was a terrorist. This jerk doesn’t even know the difference between Asian Indians and Arabs. But Trump does and Trump is the one inciting these jerks to commit blatant acts of terrorism on United States streets.

    So..who REALLY is the biggest security risk today? The Asshat in Chief with a Motor Mouth that never shuts up and constantly plants “ideas” in the heads of the dipshits in Confederate States?

    Why else hold another of his much needed ego bloating campaign rallies in the heart of the Confederacy, Memphis TN?

    A single glance around the audience behind him proved one thing: These people are the lowest of the low in this country.

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    1. mimi March 16, 2017

      Eleanore: Excellent! Thank you. OK to post on FB?

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

        Sure…Be my guest.

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  7. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

    When you consider that last night in Memphis, Trump was already at it again bashing a federal court judge in Hawaii for being first to place a judicial order to stop Trump’s travel ban.

    I only watched about 10 minutes of his speech last night. I was not interested in what he had to say but in the “tone” he used to say it and the clowns he calls his supporters.

    If Tennessee is this desperate to support a crook like Trump, how easy it must be for their TN politicians to rip these people off.

    When I flipped back to his speech at its near end, he was using a tone all Americans should be scared to death of hearing: He kept using words like, “I will protect Americans “forever.” Really? Is he thus planning to let another election be rigged so he can be the last US president ever elected?

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 16, 2017

      An interesting perception on your part. To the point you raise, Trump is drunk from the intoxicating effects of a raging ego that’s out of control. With a rabid beast, or a carnivore that has acquired a taste for human flesh, it is required that such an animal be put down. Looks like for Trump, he needs to be locked up for his own good, for the peace of mind of the country, and for his supporters who’re infected from having too much close exposure to the Donald.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

        When I was in my 30s, every other week in the Metro area media, Trump was always up to something. When it was an 18 month long cat fight that jacked his ego between Ivana and Marla, it was his battles with then admired and respected Mayor Ed Koch.

        Trump has never in his entire life had the ability to reason without ego. When ego is part of a reasoning process, we know what goes wrong: Too much selfie in the belfry.

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        1. latebloomingrandma March 16, 2017

          So where did his “legend” of being this great negotiator come from? Just in his own mind, such as it is?

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker March 16, 2017

            In the early years of Trump’s real estate business, he considered himself a “great negotiator” only when HE got what he wanted from “opponents.”

            When he got into it with Mayor Koch over the purchase of the Brooklyn Navy Yards, Mayor Koch refused to sell that piece of prime property to Trump. From that minute on, Mayor Koch was Trump’s worst enemy. So, the Great Negotiator thought if he took his “case” against “Mayor Koch” to Albany, the Senators and Congresspersons would all just bow down and kiss Trump’s lard ass. They didn’t. Trump went ballistic and started the first of his many show off attempts to make it seem as if the state of NY was “against him.” He hired his security thugs whom he never even needed. Then, it came out that Trump was dealing with some very unsavory Mafia in the gaming industry when he was in competition with Steve Winn who opened several casinos in Atlantic City. In order to get what Trump wanted, he needed “insiders with clout” and who better than the casino Mafia?

            When he started not to pay some of the Mafia’s own “contractors,” Trump really did need security. roflmao.

            With billionaires it isn’t about the money. It is always about the power they exact from wealth and always, always they are in competition with each other.

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          2. dpaano March 21, 2017

            Everything that he has said is in his own mind! The problem is that his mind is so egomaniacal that it’s ridiculous!

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    2. dpaano March 21, 2017

      I question WHY he is out campaigning when he needs to be in the White House doing his job! He has 400+ positions that still need to be filled, but he’s off to Mar-a-Lago each week-end to play golf or meet with his buddies! Why hasn’t the Ethics Committee put a kibosh on this…..he brings foreign country officials to Mar-a-Lago, either gives them or charges them for their rooms, and the Ethics Committee doesn’t nothing when it’s in CLEAR violation of the law! Same goes with his hotel in Washington, D.C.! Someone needs to stop this man from continually breaking the Ethics laws!

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker March 22, 2017

        From what I know of Trump, he is addicted to “adoring crowds.” If he cannot get an audience to cheer him, he goes into major depression. That’s why he wants Ivanka in her own special office in the White House. She is cheerleader in chief of keeping Daddy from depression. That relationship between Trump and Ivanka borders on sexually deviant.

        The Republicans have weaponized being a majority to the extent that they control the entrails that control major departments of government.

        They claim that the President is not bound by ANY ethics and according to Conway, “The president can do whatever he pleases.” Really? In a democracy where WE pay the taxes for his daughter to live in the White House?

        Trump doesn’t believe in ethics or principles. To Trump these are obstacles to his path to absolute power and control. In other words, we have a mental case in the White House who was put there by the same mental cases of the mutton chops and corn pone states.

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  8. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 16, 2017

    To continue my earlier train of thought, especially in regards to Trump, I was reviewing some principles in topology, and the notions of connectivity as expressed in general relativity and coordinate systems.
    In both disciplines, there is expressed in mathematical and physical terms how an object can be bent to appear as something completely different, yet retains qualities allowing it to resume the previous form. In topology, a cup shape without a handle and a ball are geometrically equivalent; the shape of space-time can alter properties, an object can be displaced but there is a way to retrace its displacement and position it back to the previous location. For humans, our original potential and nature at birth can be altered dependent on cultural/family/physical factors—for good or for worse. The “worse” is when such factors, along with the willingness of the mature being to abuse his/her nature, are allowed to proceed and change against the norms of human behavior unhindered. This appears to be the case with Donald, who by a confluence of factors when growing up have altered Donald for the worse—it’s possible for him to retrace and undo the path and the “evil” effects he picked up, but he has to be willing to do so.
    Such is not the case so far with Trump; Bannon, many in the GOP, the alt-Right as a collective, have similar distortions of their personalities, and so, resemble hideous alterations from their original nature which was good and noble at birth, but slowly was allowed to be altered over decades with unabated. The time to correct is before life in this realm is terminated.

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 16, 2017

      To expand on the mirroring of mathematics in the realm of humanity, consider an aspect of objects from the standpoint of topology: A ball is topologically equivalent to a cup without a handle, but isn’t equivalent to a cup with a handle—a tear in the putty, to use the physical analogy for imagining the cup, renders the cup no longer capable mathematically to return to the unbroken “cup”. But a doughnut is the appropriate topological equivalent of a “cup” with a handle.
      Donald, Bannon, the alt-right, etc, are the human analogues of what started out as a lump of putty without a tear, but have been so “torn” and sheared that each now represents a “cup” with numerous handles of a variety of twisted shapes, and no longer capable of resuming their original configuration—except, by Divine Intervention. But for that to take place, the distorted and contorted “cup” must want to be restored to its original shape.

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  9. opinioned1 March 16, 2017

    The stupid gd trumpies will never learn– WORDS do have consequences. Three federal judges have told the clown NO you can not have your ban on muslims, it`s against the law. At least five leading republicans have told trump you lied, Obama never wiretapped you. The moron trump just can`t stop stepping on his little hands and other parts as well. He`s a friggin lying machine who can`t get out of first gear.

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  10. 1Zoe55 March 16, 2017

    This Miller guy is “Goebbels incarnate” in his resemblance to that murderous Nazi thug. Do not forget that it was Frau Goebbels (with hubby’s consent) who murdered their innocent children in the Berlin bunker rather than let the children be taken by the Russians. Other Nazi officers who were fleeing the Bunker offered to save the children but the Goebbels refused. There’s a German movie called “The Downfall” that deals with the death and destruction of Hitler and his thugs, and the Berlin Bunker. The fact that Germans made this movie gives it that much more credence and, honestly, horror and disbelief. Trump, Bannon and Miller need to be thrown out of America before they inflict more damage.

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    1. dpaano March 21, 2017

      Bannon and Miller are the very WORSE people to be advising our erstwhile president! He doesn’t have a thought of his own that they haven’t whispered into his ear in between golf games! We’ve heard what Bannon’s mantra is…..to decimate our government, and he’s doing a great job so far! As I’ve said before….Bannon and Miller are 45’s puppet masters just as Cheney was for GWB! They need to be thrown out of the White House! I doubt 45 could do the job without them, but he could try!

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  11. Cora Fernandez March 16, 2017

    President Trump and Americans have the right to ban Muslims. The real reason is because Radical Islam Muslims have a very different Sharia laws. Muslims beliefs, cultures and traditions are very different from American beliefs, culture and traditions. Muslims Sharia laws are not compatible with American laws and other civilize countries. America and European countries should face and admit the real truth. These are the reasons why Muslims should have their own country. Problem solved.

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 16, 2017

      A very immature perspective—do you ever travel abroad? If so, do you feel welcomed and appreciate that? If you don’t give yourself an opportunity to get to know people who look and think differently than you, then you set yourself up to be the bigot. We blacks often feel the same way about people with attitudes such as yours—but I wouldn’t be so uncivilized as to tell you to stay away from the country I’m a citizen of.
      I highly recommend to you that you reacquaint yourself with the Teachings of Jesus—or, familiarize yourself with the Writings of Baha’u’llah.
      (www.bahai.org)

      “The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens”, He wrote, and exhorts all of humankind to aspire to this attitude.

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      1. dbtheonly March 17, 2017

        “Muslims should have their own country.”

        All 1.5 Billion of them? Don’t they have a bunch of countries already?

        And I’m amused by the inverse, should Christians then have their own country? Ought we then ban the entrance of Radical Christians from our shores?

        Have people always been this un-mutual? So willing to set rules, but only for others? Growing up, I always had to be willing to accept either half of a deal I proposed.

        The issue of Black Separatism goes back at least as far as Malcolm X and Martin Luther King. Not that I get a vote, but I’d hate to think that people have to be divided for any purpose.

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        1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 17, 2017

          I was thinking the same thing—what is it that has debilitated the rational faculties of Americans to such an extent. As for the the Black separatists, in college, I moved into an apartment building in Back Bay Boston with several students, one of whom was a member of RNA(“Republic of New Afrika”). He was quite dogmatic in his belief that an entire segment in the South should be set aside for Black folks to move to. My Baha’i point of view failed to dissuade him from this goal; one of the members of this group went to help with this DOA idea, and was killed during a raid on a house they were temporarily living in in Jackson, Miss., my place of birth.

          http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2014/mar/05/jackson-tragedy-rna-revisited/

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          1. dbtheonly March 17, 2017

            Interesting article.

            I’m sorry for the loss of your former roommate.

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          2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 18, 2017

            You have a good heart. While attending school, there were a number of other black students who chose to retaliate by changing their name and developing adopting a knee-jerk attitude, even to the point of adopting a variety of myths purporting black superiority. (Changing the name was OK, but it got to be a point of contention if you forgot to address them by their new name. I got tired immediately of the “fight fire with fire” rhetoric, and we just went our separate ways. You can lead people to more positive ways of responding to injustices, but you can’t make them decide whether to try a firm yet enlightened approach, or adopt narratives which only accentuate the problem.

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          3. dbtheonly March 18, 2017

            I stand humbled before your attitude, commitment, and mode of life. Chalk yourself up as another Black Person trying to teach me patience, acceptance, and forgiveness. It has been my blessing that several Black Folks have tried to teach me those attributes over my life. My failure that I so often need the lessons.

            Which is why I oppose the separation of the Blacks and Whites. First we’re one race: human. Next I know how my life would have been lessened without those Black Folks to teach me. Don’t want to imagine what we’d lose without that teaching and example.

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          4. dpaano March 21, 2017

            I agree wholeheartedly, db. I personally grew up in Compton in a predominantly black neighborhood. I didn’t realize I wasn’t black until we moved out of Compton, and I was shocked! I couldn’t understand why things were so different and why my friends in Compton couldn’t really come visit me in my new home. And, when I went into the military in 1964 and went to Anniston, Alabama for basic training (this was the WAC training facility at the time), it was difficult for me to understand why my black friends couldn’t come into town with me. Because of this, I chose to stay on the base with them rather than have to deal with the BS that I would have seen had I gone into town! I have NEVER felt that this division between African Americans and the Caucasian race was a valid division…..as Aaron and you have said….we are all ONE race. In fact, we ALL have that little bit of African blood in our mitochondrial DNA from the very first human being! We are ALL from Africa if you want to think about it!

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          5. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 22, 2017

            It’s interesting to know you were born and grew up in such surroundings, which enhances significantly your stature and perceptions.

            When I traveled to Oman for the 2nd time in 2015, I was put in touch with a Baha’i and his family by the National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha’is of Oman. They’re originally from Tajikistan. From my hotel I had received a message at the desk that someone wanted to meet with me to attend a devotional gathering of the local Baha’is in a city which I can’t name for the protection of the Baha’is. (The Oman government is friendly towards the Baha’is, and Omanis in general are quite tolerant of other Religions—there are churches, Buddhist and Hindu temples. Less visible are the Baha’is by mutual agreement, and the Baha’i National Community’s acquiescence
            out of respect for the tenuous relationship between Islam and the Baha’i Faith.

            A few days later, one of the participants at the gathering came by the hotel to take me to his home, and shortly after arrival his small children ran out of their room to greet me—the 4 year old jump right into my lap putting her face right against mine so that she could look through my glasses, and began to work her hands out of curiosity through my Afro. From that moment during the duration of my stay, whenever I went about town with them or went to their apartment, her first order of business was to grab my comb and work on my hair—the two of them became my shadow.

            I’m certain they’ll maintain this degree of comfort with people looking different because of their parents setting an example, a constant exposure to an atmosphere motivated by the reality that all humans are of the same “family”, and partly because of my visits. I’m planning on seeing them again this year, to supplement the emails and Skype.

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          6. dpaano March 22, 2017

            I guess I was lucky that my parents always told me that everyone was good until they prove otherwise. It didn’t matter what color or nationality they were. I try to keep that in mind at all times when dealing with the people around me. Everyone has a chance with me until they don’t for some reason or another. The same goes for my Caucasian friends…..

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          7. Aaron_of_Portsmouth March 21, 2017

            And I in return stand beside you in humility and with respect. You, “dpaano”, “Mama Bear”, and others too numerous to cite right now, are the embodiment of the “new race” Baha’u’llah mentions, who will appear as a result of the transformation you both and I are slowly aspiring to become.

            Furthermore, in a very long letter addressed directly to the American Baha’i Community in 1938 in which he called on Whites and Blacks to work together in making a supreme effort to begin the process of a sustained effort to address head-on America’s “Most Challenging Issue”—namely Racism. It’s no surprise that Shoghi Effendi would single out among all the groups, then and now, these two particular groups.

            By making this effort, theses two groups will send a message which no one else across the globe wouldn’t notice, and therefore would be motivated to take similar actions with problems of group/ethnic differences in their lands.

            But it all must start with us here in America. That’s part of the mystery behind the rise of Trump and others seeking to create further divisions.

            Peace out!

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          8. dpaano March 21, 2017

            It’s the old saying…..”you can lead them to water, but you can’t make them drink.”

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      2. dpaano March 21, 2017

        I agree….Cora is just another right wing racist! She doubt she’s even taken the time to TALK to an American Muslim and find out what they believe in or what they feel. Her comments are ridiculous….I suppose I should distance myself from Catholics or Jews because their religion doesn’t agree with me! Seriously? Every religion has it’s own laws and traditions, and we need to understand this. The Muslim religion here in the U.S. does NOT believe in Sharia laws….I know, I’ve talked to many Muslims in this country. Cora….go out and actually MEET some Muslims or talk to them…..you’ll see how wrong you are. You’ve been listening to too much FAUX News, which is probably the bigger purveyor of false news ever (except for Breitbart)!!

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  12. dpaano March 21, 2017

    Personally, I find it difficult to understand WHY our illustrious minority president thinks that keeping people out of these 6 countries will do much for our safety, especially when there have been NO terrorists coming into the U.S. from ANY of those countries EVER! But, he doesn’t seem to include those actual countries that DID have terrorists come in the U.S., like Saudi Arabia! Plus, if anything, he’s hurting the nation’s safety by feeding into ISIS with propaganda that they will use to recruit more terrorists from young men and women already in this country! It just makes absolutely NO sense whatsoever and will do NOTHING to protect this country! In fact, it will end up hurting this country in many more ways!
    Personally, I hope they bomb Mar-a-Lago first of all…..then the orange-haired pretend president won’t have anywhere to go on the week-ends to play golf and waste our taxpayer money when he should be at the White House doing his job!

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    1. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 23, 2017

      truly what I feel this dose is helps the terrorist more . for now thy know the country’s that get the most of the attention and are being blocked from . so thy just move around outside those country’s and try to enter the USA from a country not on the list same terror people just coming in from a different sight of the globe .same bad people just with more places thy will have better chances of getting in to the country

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  13. ivory69690@yahoo.com March 23, 2017

    one has to look at the DONNY DUMP’s record so far . seems like his days before with all his bankrupt’s and $billion dollar loses he filed in one year . showing that he is the BIG LOSER so far first loss his DUMP-U then so far anyways first travel bad loss 2nd one pretty much the same and today you will see his DUMP DONT CARE healthcare plan dies and should be bury . and he calling for his tax’s cut ( just for the greedy bastard rich mostly and he even try’s to give them money back on the DUMP DONT CARE healthcare plan ) giving the greedy ones money from all the ways he can . one hears nothing about his promises of sueing the women he molested and or assaulted . (THE DUMPSTER SAID ILL SUE EVERY ONE OF THEM ) NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ! because more of that truth will come out in a court room . how’s his wall doing and locking Hillary up ? and his ISIS wet dreams . heck I even think ISIS feels sorry for the USA with the DUMPSTER in the house and heck even might think we need a break . thy might even be saying that the USA has problems now worse then thy could ever do to this country ok ill give it that he has not been in the house long . but seems he has went so far and fast backwards then any President in history .

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