Former President Donald Trump joined Newsmax for an interview that aired on Thursday morning in which he spewed out a laundry list of bizarre accusations against ex-White House aide Cassidy Hutchinson, whose sworn testimony before the House Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol on Tuesday was absolutely devastating for Trump.
A visibly agitated Trump complained about Hutchinson's recounting of his behavior during the insurrection.
"Some whack job can stay this stuff and get away with it, and other things, that I wanted guns at my rally. Okay, now I'm speaking, why would I want guns? I don't want people having, standing with guns in my rally," he said on Wake Up America.
Hutchinson recalled that Trump believed that his armed supporters were "not there to hurt me."
Trump maintained that "this woman, she wanted to work for me after January 6. She was a big Trump fan. She wanted to work for me in Florida and we chose not to bring her down because I got very bad things."
Next, Trump repeated what he said on Tuesday – that "I hardly knew her," even though his and Hutchinson's West Wing offices were only a few yards apart. "And I said, 'well if she's no good, I got somebody called up, numerous people, that she's not good.'"
Trump then refused to say "why she's not good, plenty of reasons... she was not respected by the people in the White House. So they thought she shouldn't go down. I was going down to Florida with a group of people, great group of people, patriots, and her name was thrown out there and they said, 'stay away from her.' They said bad things about her."
Hutchinson's strange story about Trump trying to hijack his motorcade, which was told to her by Trump's then-deputy chief of staff Tony Ornato, made him particularly upset.
"And then I see her, and again, I hardly know who she is. And then I see this woman getting up and she's making up stories, like one after another, but the craziest of all was that I tried to commandeer – they used that word – I tried to commandeer a car with Secret Service agents telling them to take us down to the Capitol," Trump said. "It was totally false, and that a person can get away with it... and then I watch the Times and The Washington Post, and I get reviews on MSDNC, and CNN, they hardly even talk about the fact that she's been totally discredited."
That is untrue, given that so far, nobody has refuted Hutchinson's damning statements under oath.
Watch below via Vox's Aaron Rupar:
"Whack job ... I won't say why that she's not good, but plenty of reasons" -- Trump makes all sorts of weird insinuations about Cassidy Hutchinson during a new Newsmax interview pic.twitter.com/Hpwr37n2Wr— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 30, 2022
Trump's reaction rekindled widespread suspicions that he is attempting to engage in witness tampering in order to obfuscate the truth.
Witness intimidation and tampering…encouraging his deranged base to attack this woman— Allen Glines ✊🏻 (@AllenBGlines) June 30, 2022
the amount of effort and time spent on discrediting her, pretty much confirms she's telling the truth.
— stan (@stancoffman1) June 30, 2022
I smell desperation.
— Helbard Alkhassadeh (@helbard) June 30, 2022
Looks like someone is trying to toe the line and slander someone without opening themselves up for a defamation lawsuit.
— Sean Bellah (@smuman81) June 30, 2022
It’s all projection. All of it. Always has been. It’s his calling card.
— Geoffrey White ☮️ (@geoff_white) June 30, 2022
He looks so terrified and frazzled that he forgot to slather on his orange makeup.
— Adele (@AdeleTweets19) June 30, 2022
You can reuse these comments for any former staffer that has less than glowing things to say about Trump and his administration. Really is as predictable as a bad mob movie.
— Riley the Dog (@RilesTheDog) June 30, 2022
Exactly. Dude always sticks to the same script. We know him too well by now. The more he smears someone, the more he fears them.
— Cher Davis (@cherdavis1000) June 30, 2022
And he brings out the I hardly knew her defense.
She worked down the hall from him for how many years..for his
Chief of staff for goodness sakes...
The number of people who worked for him who he now claims he didn't know is staggering..
— Andrew Roslak (@beavis617) June 30, 2022
That was possibly the most unconvincing thing I’ve heard him say since he refused to disclose his favorite Bible verse. She was not respected such that on 1/6 she was in Meadows office, backstage at the Rally and in and out of the car/office/command center Meadows was holed up in
— Mike Blumenthal (@MikeSBlumenthal) June 30, 2022
"Whack job ... I won't say why that she's not good, but plenty of reasons" -- Trump makes all sorts of weird insinuations about Cassidy Hutchinson during a new Newsmax interview pic.twitter.com/Hpwr37n2Wr
— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) June 30, 2022
Did he never wonder why a "total whack job" had the office next to Jared and Mark Meadows and two doors down from the Oval Office?
— Kevin C (@kevinciajd) June 30, 2022
Those conjectures are not without warrant.
On Thursday afternoon, CNN National Security Reporter Zachary Cohen reported that "multiple sources" revealed to him, anchor Kasie Hunt, and Congressional Correspondent Ryan Nobles that Hutchinson told the bipartisan House panel "that she was contacted by someone who was attempting to influence her testimony."
Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump's White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, told the January 6 committee that she was contacted by someone who was attempting to influence her testimony, multiple sources confirm to me, @kasie & @ryanobles.
— Zachary Cohen (@ZcohenCNN) June 30, 2022
Reprinted with permission from Alternet.
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