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Too Little, Too Late: Media Finally See Trump’s Potential Conflicts

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Press finally focusing on Trump's business conflicts

Reprinted with permission from Media Matters. 

New York Times editors and reporters might’ve thought they were going to be congratulated by readers for Sunday’s front-page, six-reporter expose on President-elect Donald Trump’s nearly endless business conflicts. But a chorus of media observers and critics had other ideas.

Rather than applaud the Times for its report, lots of commentators wondered why the newspaper waited until after the election to wave large red flags about Trump’s obvious conflicts, especially when the Times — and so much of the campaign press — spent an extraordinary amount of energy obsessing over potential conflicts of interest, and possible ethical lapses, supposedly surrounding Hillary Clinton.

Looking back, there certainly seems to be a perception that the political press didn’t really care about Trump’s looming, impossible-to-miss conflicts or the bad “optics” they might produce. And it appears that the press was overly infatuated with conflict questions about Clinton — questions today that seem quaint compared to Trump’s far-flung business dealings, which represent a possible gateway to corruption.

That’s not to say the topic wasn’t addressed or that some journalists didn’t tackle it in real time during the campaign season. Kurt Eichenwald at Newsweek produced a helpful deep dive back in September. And the business press was urgent and upfront in detailing the unprecedented nature of Trump’s looming problem. Bloomberg in June: “Conflicts of Interest? President Trump’s Would Be Amazing.”

But in general, the political press seemed less engaged with this issue and appeared reluctant to tag the obvious Trump storyline as a campaign priority. There didn’t seem to be an institutional commitment to pursuing and documenting that storyline, even though the potential problems for Trump were obvious and the story might have disqualified him.

Even today, the story isn’t being treated with the urgency it deserves. Yes, more new organizations are tepidly acknowledging the colossal conflicts and looming inside deals, but so much of the coverage still lacks resolve. Question for journalists: If Clinton arrived at the White House with open and boundless business conflicts, how would you cover that story? What kind of outraged, lecturing tone would you take? Now treat the Trump story the same way.

Newsrooms need to learn from their lackluster campaign coverage and treat the unfolding Trump controversy as a permanent beat inside newsrooms for the next four years. It certainly demands that kind of attention and focus.

Note that aside from the Times’ big Sunday Trump conflict piece, the newspaper also published detailed articles on the topic November 21 and 14, and before the election on November 5. But aside from a few exceptions, in the months prior to Election Day, when voters were assessing the candidates, the intense focus on Trump’s conflicts just wasn’t there. (As Media Matters reported, the same trend played out on network newscasts, which devoted scant time to Trump’s conflicts of interest before the election only to ramp up coverage after Trump’s victory.)

Where was there lots of media campaign interest? (And also lots of bad journalism?) Trying to detail Clinton’s possible conflicts, a storyline forever deemed by the press to be a Very Big Deal.

Recall that the Times and The Washington Post considered potential Clinton conflicts stemming from the family charity to be so pressing that both newspapers entered into unusual exclusive editorial agreements with Peter Schweizer, the partisan Republican author who wrote the Breitbart-backed book Clinton Cash. (The Times also breathlessly hyped the book in its news pages.)

And that was 18 months before Election Day. The topic remained a media priority throughout the campaign.

Clinton Cash, a hodgepodge of innuendo and connect-the-dot allegations, was riddled with errorsU.S. News & World Report described the book as a “somewhat problematic” look at the Clintons’ financial dealings, while Time noted that one of the book’s central claims was “based on little evidence.”

Yet Clinton’s alleged conflicts were considered to be so important inside newsrooms — and it was deemed so crucial for the Beltway press to suss out every conceivable detail — that the Times and the Post were willing to make dubious alliances with GOP operatives.

Needless to say, no such partisan unions were formed to report out Trump’s massive business conflicts. Indeed, most news consumers would be hard-pressed to suggest Trump’s obvious business conflicts constituted a centerpiece of his campaign coverage for the previous 18 months.

Meanwhile, recall that lots of media elites demanded Clinton take action before the election in order to eliminate the supposed conflicts surrounding the Clinton Foundation. During August and September, that topic created yet another wave of frenzied Clinton coverage, fueled by the media’s “optics” obsession.

At the time, NBC’s Chuck Todd perfectly summed up the media’s weird pursuit when he announced, “Let’s be clear, this is all innuendo at this point. No pay for play has been proven. No smoking gun has been found.” Todd then quickly added, “But like many of these Clinton scandals, it looks bad.”

From NPR:

There’s no question the optics are bad for Clinton and the Clinton Foundation. But no proof has emerged that any official favors — regulations, government contracts, international deals — were curried in exchange for donations or pledges.

And from Time:

If she didn’t do anything wrong, why won’t she defend herself? By avoiding taking responsibility, Clinton only exacerbates the perception she is dishonest and untrustworthy, the primary hurdle on her path to the White House. Optics matter when the issue is transparency.

According to the media mantra, Clinton’s possible big-money conflicts looked really, really bad. Reporters hammered the theme for weeks and months, while only occasionally glancing over in the direction of Trump’s concrete conflicts.

Today, coverage of Trump’s conflicts and self-dealing has belatedly arrived. But it often comes with an odd sense of delayed wonder, as if journalists are just now realizing the epic size of the pay-for-play problem at hand for the country, while still hedging their bets.

For instance, the headline for the Post’s November 25 article announced, “Trump’s Presidency, Overseas Business Deals And Relations With Foreign Governments Could All Become Intertwined.”

Could? The president-elect’s business dealing could be a conflict for U.S. foreign policy? That Post framing seems to dramatically underplay what’s currently unfolding. As the Post itself has reported, “Trump has done little to set boundaries between his personal and official business since winning the presidency.”

Indeed, Trump’s refusal to divest himself from a sprawling array of business interests is certain to create an ethical morass that even Republican attorneys insist will produce endless, possibly debilitating, conflicts for Trump.

The media mostly missed this pressing story once during the campaign. They can’t afford to overlook it a second time.

IMAGE: U.S. Presidential Candidate Donald Trump gestures at a press conference held during a visit to his Scottish golf course at Turnberry in Scotland, August 1, 2015. REUTERS/Russell Cheyne

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306 Comments

  1. Jim Samaras November 30, 2016

    Let’s talk about this nonsense and nothing about President elect Trump ALREADY saving 1000 American jobs in Indiana. Wrong priorities as usual at NM.

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth November 30, 2016

      But you love to keep coming here to whine. You have a warped sense of priorities which is why you’re so much of a sycophant and fawn so excessively over Trump. This is abnormal behavior, especially for an adult male.
      Are jobs the only thing your tiny mind thinks of? Better economy stems from the application of spiritual principles and having developed a keener sense of morality—not the other way around. Unfortunately with many Christians, and with many Jews, and many Muslims, and assorted others in the world, materialism now takes precedent, while concepts like empathy, reciprocity, an inclusive attitude, and attention to developing one’s moral character take a back seat.
      At least give a showing that you’re trying to develop those qualities even if you haven’t reached certain benchmarks yet—that’s what we all should be striving to do. I hope I’m not casting pearls before swine, Jim.

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      1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

        If I appear to be whining it’s because there is no credit at all being given to Trump on this site for things being done before he even becomes president.

        Aaron, I’m sure you’re aware that “spiritual principles and a sense of morality” do not pay the bills!

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        1. Michael Allen December 1, 2016

          1000 jobs “saved” is a symbolic gesture, and insignificant in the overall scheme of things. It is a sop to the suckers who believed his bullshit.

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          1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            And – again – it’s a lie. 1300 jobs moving to Mexico, 800 jobs staying for one year, in exchange for 10 years of tax breaks.

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        2. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

          You appear to be whining because you are, in fact, whining.

          I hope that helps!

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        3. Zengo December 1, 2016

          oh, I think there is plenty of credit being given to Trump for things he is doing before he even becomes President. The problem is you only want to pay attention to certain things he does

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          1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            Do you mean credit for putting together a better cabinet in 3 weeks than Obama had in 8 years? Business people sir! Not one business person in the Obama cabinet and it’s shown for the last 8 years

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          2. Zengo December 1, 2016

            That depends on your definition of “better”. Trump values loyalty over competency, billionaires over anyone else. Any time Sarah Palin’s name gets thrown around, you know there is trouble. And Patreus isn’t even allowed to leave his own state without clearance from his Parole Officer. Surrounding yourself with sycophants and ideologues is a really poor way to set up a winning team.

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          3. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            Any worse than counseling with Rev Wright, Jesse Jackson or tax evader Al Sharpton?

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          4. Zengo December 1, 2016

            Except none of them were in Obama’s cabinet, were they? Also Obama hired or kept on folks regardless of their party affiliation, like Patreus and Comey. Nice try though

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          5. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            Trump is not finished is he? The mere fact that he is CONSIDERING that pos Romney for SOS (won’t happen) should give you a hint that he’s as open minded as anyone.

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          6. Zengo December 1, 2016

            Except, IMO, that is just political theater. I don’t think Trump is seriously considering Romney for the job, but it is politically expedient to make it look like he is. So people like you can say “look how open minded he is” But, Trump is also not a man of principles, he may be impressed by the fact that Romney’s another rich guy. I would prefer Romney to God forbid, Bolton or Giulianni, those guys are completely insane

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          7. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            I believe Trump to be more principled and grounded than you lefties give him credit for. Although you unwisely give him credit for nothing

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          8. Zengo December 1, 2016

            I have known Trump’s behavior for the last 35 years, and believe me, he is not principled

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          9. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            What you view as lack of principles many look at as business savvy.

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          10. Zengo December 1, 2016

            not paying your contractors and using power and influence to force them to eat it is not business savvy, it is abuse, and very, VERY un-American

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          11. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            Were you one of the contractors? One of your friends contractors where you’re hearing one side of the story? I’ve also heard many stories in the opposite direction so as far as I’m concerned it’s all hear say. I say let him go to work and see how it plays out

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          12. Zengo December 1, 2016

            I find it amusing that you will easily accept rumors, falsehoods and innuendo about Obama or Clinton, but fail to accept documented evidence as hearsay when it comes to trump

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          13. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            Documented evidence? As in a lawsuit won by a jilted contractor that shows egregious action on behalf of DT? I don’t want to hear about the Trump U nuisance lawsuit he settled so that he could concentrate on the nation

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          14. Zengo December 1, 2016

            you sound angry

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          15. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            Not at all Zengo! You presented your argument in a respectful manner unlike many fools on here who anger me only because of their stupidity.

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          16. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            you sound bitter and hateful against Trump Our elected strong powerful President!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f5ec2a8fb15a75460fe8b21b59cd3f71ba279072441490fb75ad3b342f26f8b.jpg

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          17. Zengo December 5, 2016

            Wow, issues much?

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          18. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Crying awwwwwwwwwww crying

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVlHZh5dvbA

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          19. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            You know nothing but hate & ignorance!

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          20. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Yes, if we only believed in Putin and his diaperbaby Trump, he wouldn’t destroy the US in revenge for the collapse of the USSR, his openly stated goal.

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          21. Zengo December 5, 2016

            He took your guns away? I know he hasnt touched mine

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    2. Sand_Cat November 30, 2016

      Why not? It’s a lot less “nonsense” than anything you’ve ever posted here. Just because you have the attention-span and intellectual skills of a hyper ADHD 3-year old doesn’t mean REAL “thinkers” aren’t interested in the details of which you are ignorant.

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      1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

        Hmmm, I must have hit a nerve with a non thinker here with that comment I made many months ago. Keep trying though

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    3. I Am Helpy November 30, 2016

      Except that he didn’t; those jobs weren’t going anywhere. Meanwhile, he’s just managed to help 1500+ jobs go to Mexico – and proposed paying the company for doing it.

      Why, it is almost like he’s a rich liar who promised a bunch of dumbasses things he had no intention of carrying through on.

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      1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

        I stated those jobs weren’t going anywhere immediately after the election lil filler! Up until then they were gone!

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        1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

          Yeah I have no idea what point you think you’re making.

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          1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            Of course you don’t! You’re a low/no information mofo

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          2. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            No, I mean it’s literally crazy gibberish.

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          3. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Like, only a really stupid person would think your argument made any kind of sense, even if it was based on facts.

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          4. dpaano December 1, 2016

            The point he’s making is that he’s stupider than rocks!

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          5. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Yeah, you nailed that one.

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    4. I Am Helpy November 30, 2016

      Also, the Japanese head office of a large company just shut down yet another major project one of my competitors had. 40-50 people laid off (some of whom I’m gonna poach), and new work for me if I can get to it in time.

      I mean, you gotta laugh at how badly you got suckered, you sucker.

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    5. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

      Lastly, even if your “1000 jobs” wasn’t TOTALLY IMAGINARY, Obama saved more than 1.5 million jobs just with the auto industry bailout.

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      1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

        Actually more than 3 million. Teach me to post figures from memory.

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    6. Eleanore Whitaker December 1, 2016

      For a rock star wannbe like you? Of course the Emoluments Clause should exempt Trump. The U.S. Constitution is NOT nonsense to the people who founded it nor the men and women who died for the right to keep that Constitution intact. What the hell is a rock star wannabe like you doing preaching your lies and stupidity? No job yet?

      President Obama saved 8 million jobs when he had to duke it out with your Republican morons who unemployed them from 2004 to 2008 just to get them the unemployment extension they already paid for through payroll deductions.

      Men like you need lobotomies because you see it only YOUR way and assume the rest of must obey like good little puppies. You forget little wannabe rock star. There are many adults who paid their dues in life. You? All you do all day is sit on your butt making up wild eyed contortions and distortions.

      So he saved 1,000 jobs. President Obama single handedly saved the US auto industry which has tens of thousands of employees and related parts manufacturing businesses. Time for a little wannabe rock star like you to get out of your short pants. Angus Young you are not. Ted Nugent is more you low life style.

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      1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

        Where’s my sammich? Mustard no mayo sweetheart

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        1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

          Haha I get it! You hate women!

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          1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            No, I like effing with Ellie. I hate lil septic fillers like you

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          2. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Yeah you dull bigots always try to pass off your open racism or misogyny or whatever as something differnt. Dunno why, it never convinces anyone.

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          3. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            I pass off the fact that you’re nothing but a septic filler pretty well! I have convinced MANY of that fact….with your HELPY of course

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          4. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Yeah, sorry you couldn’t come up with anything good. Better luck next abusive tirade!

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          5. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            I abuse no one here but you! I bet you’re used to it too

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          6. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            You literally just claimed your misogyny was just abuse of another poster.

            I mean, I get that you’re incredibly stupid – your claims about the jobs Trump is “saving” is proof enough of that – but this is like two posts up from here.

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          7. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            Misogyny? I had no idea the lil septic filler was a squat to pee! Although I knew you were in reality I had no idea you were a woman. Misogyny has NOTHING to do with it! I, like Trump, do not suffer fools well and you certainly qualify as the biggest one on these boards male or female. I mean Ellie is one but nothing coming close to your magnitude. She is just a man hater….

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          8. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Yes I get that you’re really, really stupid, you hate women, and you’re super racist. You don’t need to reinforce any of those impressions.

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          9. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Also, this post is unintentionally HILARIOUS. “I’m not terrified of women! You have female attributes!!!1”

            I mean, holy crap. Confronted with you, Freud wouldn’t even bother doing more than roll his eyes meaningfully at onlookers.

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      2. CPANY December 1, 2016

        Your diatribes are seldom to the point and serve only to enable you to vent your hatred of men.

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      3. InformedVoter December 1, 2016

        Still spewing out your lies are you. Obama didn’t save any or create many new jobs. The true unemployment rate still stands near 11%, same as it was in 2008! Record number on welfare, record number on food stamps, record 20 trillion dollar debt, and a record 95 million US citizens not working.
        Saved the auto industry single handed? what a lie! It cost the tax payers billions for the debt not repaid. Those auto jobs would have remained in the US and gone to the surviving companies. No jobs were saved!
        Since you like to show off your penis envy, I suspect the reason you can’t grasp the truth is that you feel somehow cheated at birth. Your life has been a big disappointment because all you got for work were menial jobs. So you’ve blamed all your shortcomings on your lack of a penis. Why don’t you call Bill Clinton and see if he can donate some of his penis to make you fell better. Poor Elle!
        Better yet, why don’t you seek out one of those wimpy colleges who set up crying rooms so people could have a good cry over President Trump’s mandate.
        http://www.barenakedislam.com/2016/11/10/how-about-a-big-dose-of-tough-love-for-all-the-pathetic-college-crybabies-in-mourning-over-the-election-results/

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        1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

          Hi InformedVoter! Just letting you know that – contrary to the latest ignorant drivel you’ve unfortunately posted – the auto industry bailout was, in fact, repaid (years ahead of schedule and at a profit of around $15 billion).

          Your cretinous lies about the “true” unemployment numbers, etc, are too stupid to even bother refuting.

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          1. InformedVoter December 1, 2016

            Hey Helpy, the Pathetic Dummy and Liar; You’ve just redoubled your label as a LIAR.
            GM only repaid about 1/2 the money they borrowed (yes ahead of schedule, but that’s all they paid). Chrysler didn’t even pay half of what they owed. Hence, GM stiffed the tax payers for about $1 billion!
            So NO they did not repay the ENTIRE loan early – as they never repaid the entire loan and so NO the government did not make a profit (your $15 billion number is a total fabrication and LIE).
            And the fact that dpaano (the racist and bigot) and queenbee are as clueless as you for giving you a thumbs up on your LIES. Thanks for helping me prove that you lefties truly are low information.
            I’m still waiting for your proof that Deb didn’t resign because of the emails. I proved the Clintons and the news media were in bed with each other and published fake poll numbers. The NYT recently admitted they manipulated facts to discourage President Trump supporters from voting. The NYT knew early on (as I did) that President Trump was truly leading HilLIARy in the polls.
            Try checking out “shadow unemployment numbers”. These have been double what the media have been printing. They show that the true unemployment number has been around 11% for past 8-9 years. Hence, Obama’s failed economic policies did nothing to bring the country financially back. Record numbers on food stamps, record number on welfare, record number on aid, slowest, weakest, and worst recovery in history (HilLIARy’s own words).
            Better seek out that crying room soon.

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          2. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            OK sorry that you feel the need to grasp at imaginary straws.

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          3. InformedVoter December 2, 2016

            Hey Helpy, the Pathetic Dummy and now an ever bigger Liar,
            I’m still waiting for your “proof” that poor Deb didn’t resign over the leaked emails. Why would care? Because her resignation probably cost ole HilLIARy any chance of winning the election. The leaked emails proved that HilLIARy and the DNC could not be trusted! and the voters recoiled and swung to President Trump.
            So now I’m not only waiting for your proof about Deb’s resignation, but now I’m waiting for your “proof” that the US made $15 billion profit from the auto bailout. So far all I can hear is the Jeopardy music …. and silence.

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          4. I Am Helpy December 2, 2016

            Are you having a stroke?

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          5. InformedVoter December 2, 2016

            Hey Helpy, the Pathetic Dummy and even bigger Liar, So you still have not heard or accepted that old HilLIARy will still be old HilLIARy!
            I can see now why you low information Dems lost and big time!
            It’s taken you weeks to come up with your proof about Deb’s resignation. I’ve provided several sites proving my statements. I can’t help it if you don’t believe them.
            Maybe that’s why you don’t believe the election is over.
            You really need to get yourself to a crying room.

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          6. I Am Helpy December 2, 2016

            Question still stands.

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          7. I Am Helpy December 2, 2016

            PS did you ever find a quote to back up any of your dumb claims?

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          8. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            I mean I guess that’s the angriest & longest way I’ve ever seen anyone admit they were totally wrong, so that’s something.

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          9. InformedVoter December 2, 2016

            Hey Helpy, the Pathetic Dummy and Liar; You totally made up the “facts” in your GM post and now you’re too stupid to understand that you were trashed by the truth. The taxpayers took a large hit on the auto bailout. All those holding GM stock lost their money. Many of these were GM retirees. These former workers voted in large numbers for President Trump.
            And you helped proved my description of lefties as being low information when a couple of dummies supported your low information, full of BS, post. Dummy and Liar you are and looks like where you’ll remain.

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          10. I Am Helpy December 2, 2016

            OK sorry you were wrong, again.

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    7. Wrily December 1, 2016

      Trump didn’t save any jobs. He bought those jobs with Indiana tax payer’s money. Exactly what he promised us he would never do.

      Trump is nothing but a huckster and you fell for it again.

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      1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

        He never said there would be no incentives! Bottom line will be more revenue in the coffers and jobs for Americans. You’ll see how smooth it goes. You guys should be talking about how that pancake face became your minority speaker again putting you farther away from the American public.

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        1. Wrily December 1, 2016

          He most certainly did. He said NO tax breaks and promised a huge import duty to anything they tried to bring back into this country. He just plain LIED. You’re just to stupid to recognize it.

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          1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

            No federal tax breaks other than the promised corporate rate. You sir are the stupid one who doesn’t know a good thing happening for the country when it happens. More important that he/she’s use the bathroom of choice I’m sure…much more inclusive…..you effing moron!

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          2. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            “If they’re going to fire all their people, move their plant to Mexico,
            build air conditioners, and think they’re going to sell those air
            conditioners to the United States — there’s going to be a tax,” Trump
            said. Pressed on exactly what that tax would be, Trump replied, “It
            could be 25 percent, it could be 35 percent, it could be 15 percent — I
            haven’t determined.”

            – Trump, talking specifically about the multi-billion dollar company Carrier

            He just gave these people $7 million to ship twice as many jobs to Mexico than he is pretending to have “saved” (even though those jobs weren’t going anywhere). Why, it is almost like you are a gullible rube who can’t admit he was suckered by the most obvious con-man in history?

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          3. Jim Samaras December 2, 2016

            Oh, I suppose the recorded meeting held at the corporation telling the workers of the proposed move was a lie to motivate employees huh? There were in fact MOVING dipstick! Now quit attempting to act like you know something and get back in the toilet doing your job.

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          4. I Am Helpy December 2, 2016

            No, those jobs are still going to Mexico. The 800 jobs Trump “saved” were not going to go to Mexico till next year. According to the letter sent to those job-holders, their jobs will be going to Mexico… next year.
            Trump accomplished nothing except giving a multi-billion dollar company ten years of tax breaks.

            I hope that helps! Sorry that your vanity candidate is ineffectual!

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          5. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            I mean, you are just making up stuff in exact opposition to things Trump has explicitly stated in the past.

            To be fair, though, Trump does the same every single day. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

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          6. Wrily December 2, 2016

            A tax break is a tax break. Trump specifically said NO tax breaks, that businesses didn’t want tax breaks. You are either a liar or an ignoramus, take your pick.

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          7. Jim Samaras December 2, 2016

            I am neither. Trump, constitutionally, does not have the authority to dictate state taxes. So I guess that makes you the ignoramus.

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          8. Wrily December 2, 2016

            Trump gave the order, Pence pulled the trigger. Trump is still guilty, but that was a nice try Jim.

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        2. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

          At the present rate, and pretending that this story is true, Trump might “save” as many jobs as Obama did in … let’s see… around two and a half centuries.

          I hope that helps!

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        3. itsfun December 1, 2016

          Some people just can’t understand negotiation and compromise.

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          1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Yeah, stupid liberals and their “Trump just gave $7 million dollars to a company to ship twice as many jobs to Mexico in exchange for a non-binding promise they’ll keep a couple jobs here for two years that they weren’t planning to export anyway.”

            Why, it is almost like they care about facts and not making stuff up!

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      2. itsfun December 1, 2016

        Its called negotiation and compromise. Done in business every day. Used be done in Washington until Obama “my way or the highway” took over. President Trump get use to it.

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        1. Wrily December 2, 2016

          In this case it’s called lying. Trump is an inveterate liar. It makes no difference whether you admit that or not. It is documented fact.

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          1. itsfun December 2, 2016

            I guess saving over 1000 jobs means nothing to you and its all a big lie.

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          2. Wrily December 2, 2016

            I’m not going to follow your misdirection. Trump is a liar and you know it.

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          3. itsfun December 3, 2016

            And Hillary and Obama have never lied to the American public/

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          4. Wrily December 3, 2016

            If you say so.

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          5. itsfun December 3, 2016

            Just get online and search for a list of their lies and you will get not only a list of their lies, but you will get utube videos of them lying.

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          6. Wrily December 3, 2016

            The subject is Trump. Stick to the subject.

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          7. itsfun December 3, 2016

            The subject is whatever I decide it is.

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      3. Zengo December 1, 2016

        I wonder if they will be the first corporation in a line of many to extort a 15% tax break to only take half the jobs out of the country

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        1. Wrily December 2, 2016

          No doubt, plenty of companies will now develop bogus plans to outsource, just to get a tax break.

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  2. 1standlastword November 30, 2016

    Yeah…Just heard how deep he’s in (to the tune of billions) with Deutsche Bank, which is under litigation for fraudulent activity during the subprime and financial crisis.

    There is both a carrot and a stick here as Trump can finagle favorable terms for himself or Deutsche Bank can entice softening penalties by offering favorable terms for the POTUS account.

    Trump can now use his executive office to dissolve much or all of his debts in other places as well like China, Russia and gawd knows where else.

    And there is no doubt he won’t try since it is already a known fact that he is the king of bankruptcy

    It should be pretty easy for him with the station of the executive office under his prodigious butt cheeks.

    Being the president is going to be GREAT for the Trump fortunes….

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/sep/16/deutsche-bank-14bn-dollar-fine-doj-q-and-a

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    1. Joan December 1, 2016

      Did you miss that he also owes millions to Chinese banks and Eastern Europeans of dubious ethics? Did you also miss that the pay to play has already started and is not in the least bit subtle or even hidden; cause ya know, a President cannot have a conflict of interest.

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      1. 1standlastword December 1, 2016

        Joan, the Trump administration might just reveal a criminal element operating at the core of our government so blazon that many will be inclined to loose heart and struggle not to fall into terminal apathy!!!!

        While this is happening, the effect of the Constitution will become diluted by the schemes of pernicious republicanism carried out mainly by avaricious rich white men “dealing” for themselves: nothing new about this EXCEPT this time the methods and the means are already availed at the very outset!!!!

        When these high crimes against the State begin to happen in earnest– the Party will become caught-up in a critical-decisional-dilemma to either draw articles of impeachment or double down in the action of partisanship

        The People–ALL THE PEOPLE– will have to struggle with a test of integrity which will compel some rational folks to abandon their partisan propensity for the welfare of the Republic and if that is too abstract, then simply for the security of the future of their children!

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        1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

          Also the Trump administration might invent unicorns and give everyone free cocaine!

          J/K all the cocaine is for Donald now.

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    2. dpaano December 1, 2016

      Plus, you have to look at the idiots that he’s nominated for his cabinet and the various departments. One of them even has ties to the banks that were causing the subprime and financial crisis, but now he’s going to have his hands in the cookie jar! I just find it totally unfathomable that his followers are so gullible that they don’t see that this, in itself, is a BIG problem. The people he’s bringing on board are the very ones that will benefit the most from their plans! Look at Price and Mnuchin?

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      1. 1standlastword December 1, 2016

        I don’t blame Trump followers. They have suffered the worst and many of them were and are democrats and independents over 50 years old.

        That might sound shocking but hear me out.

        The republicans have demonstrated most effectively that they are tactically and strategically superior to democrats when it comes to winning elections.

        Truthfully, Mr. Obama hasn’t helped his party very much taking a “shellacking” in every mid-term since taking office. The democrats just don’t seem to support down ballot races like the GOP nor do they inspire their constituency like the republicans do and-that-is-why -today-they-are-inconsequential!

        I’m mad as hell for their apparent schemes that can be described as “cheating-to-lose” the 2016 campaign.

        Bill Clinton was so mad he and wife had it out. He revived the “it’s the economy stupid” barb before he pitched his cell phone over the deck:

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3935800/Days-losing-election-Hillary-Bill-Clinton-sceaming-match-blame-flagging-campaign-ex-president-angry-threw-phone-roof-Arkansas-penthouse.html

        If American politics can be analogized as a battle between two warring factions then with the republican victories over the last 8-years “perfidy prevails”!!!

        If and when Trump and the republicans phuck up the country/ economy the question then becomes “who do we turn to?”

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        1. Jim Samaras December 1, 2016

          “If and when” is the key there! What about if and when the economy soars like never before and the country regains sanity, then who do the democrats turn to to become relevant again is the real question?

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          1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

            Oh right, so you’re a Bill Clinton fan? I mean, Obama was pretty good, fixing all the Bush damage, but that’s the last time the economy “soared like never before”.

            Who would have thought you were a Democrat?

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          2. 1standlastword December 2, 2016

            If republicans improve the lives of Americans, I’ll take it.

            If they don’t then they should be held responsible by We the People and I presume that inclides you too. That you can take off your partisan lens

            We should “not” continue to hand them victories for abusing us!!!!

            Be an equal opportunity critic Jim. Honesty looks good on everybody–

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          3. Jim Samaras December 2, 2016

            Traditional republicans or democrats will do nothing to help anyone but themselves. I think you’ll agree that Trump is neither. While he does represent the party I believe the old Republican party is DOA under a DT administration. With that said, he does have a like minded congress and should get his agenda passed without much opposition especially if he continues to take that message to We the People. I have no party preference and no affection for the Bushes or Clintons. I did vote for Obama in 08 and was disappointed that I did after his apology tour and it went downhill from there imo. I agree we should not just hand them victories without measurable positive results. However there are those who will judge success differently. If he does nothing for people who refuse to help themselves he will be judged by the left as racist and a bigot. Content of character regardless of skin color should be the order of the day. Imo, those who have the ability but no ambition should not be rewarded with government welfare and should be allowed to sink or swim. The difficult task is determining who has the ability and who really needs help which I think a Trump administration will disseminate. My hope is that he brings back opportunities for all those willing to work and sacrifice to get a leg up on the American dream.

            If he can accomplish that, bring sanity back to the streets, backup our police, repair our crumbling infrastructure and begin the arduous task of fixing the VA I will judge his presidency a success. I don’t believe these should be partisan issues. All Americans should have the same goals.

            If he does not, I will be as harsh a critic as anyone on this board but as I said beauty is in the eye of the beholder. How will you view a successful presidency?

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          4. 1standlastword December 2, 2016

            A successful presidency will avoid engaging in unnecessary war and spare the economy and workers the ravages of recession. A successful presidency will support freedom, liberty and equal justice for all. A successful presidency will be tolerant of all peoples regardless of gender, sexual orientation, race, or creed. A successful presidency will heal our deep cultural divide by modeling patience, compassion, mercy, interest and faith in and for all Americans. It will keep us safe, prosperous, secure and healthy and give our children hope for their future.

            A successful presidency will be open and honest with us.

            How much of this do you think we can get from a Trump presidency?

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          5. Jim Samaras December 2, 2016

            I think we’re on the same page. Healing our deep cultural divide with patience, tolerance and compassion has not worked and has been identified as weakness in the eyes of those who seek to take advantage of those American attributes. It may be time for a different approach. Some answers to keeping us safe, secure, prosperous and healthy can be seen as barbaric to the few who seek to reign chaos upon us and seem to permeate the MSM. Tough times sometimes call for tough measures but will fade away with time and as we get back to normal.

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          6. 1standlastword December 2, 2016

            We are a complicated race that’s for sure. Let’s start normal as a personal responsibility. Nice chatting with ya

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          7. Jim Samaras December 2, 2016

            Amen to that! It was a pleasure

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  3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth November 30, 2016

    An legal expert commented on the immense problems associated with Trump disentangling himself from his extracurricular self-aggrandizement ventures[my comment], and that it may take years to sort out the mess. He can sell off his holdings at drastically reduced prices(something the Donald isn’t designed mentally and emotionally to allow happen), or he can entrust his dealings to his relatives which still opens a can of worms.
    Had this been Obama or Clinton, there would be daily programming excoriating either, but for Donald his loyal followers will pretend that there’re no problems.
    The media, the GOP, and all others, who insisted on a thoroughly biased accounting of Hillary, are guilty of the most gross form of hypocrisy seen in decades.

    What has been sorely lacking these past 8 years at least is the lack of equity in applying justice. Justice has been lynched in favor of injustice, inequity, and partisanship.

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  4. Theodora30 December 1, 2016

    This is one of the few articles I have seen that points out the mainstream media spent over a year trashing the Clinton Foundation’s “optics” based on charges from a Breitbart author while ignoring Trump’s scam of a foundation, his massive actual, not perceived, conflicts of interest, and his other sleazy dealings until just this past summer. Now the MSM has the gall to blame fake news on social media for this debacle of an election.

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  5. FireBaron December 1, 2016

    Nope. These stories were always out there. The problem is the media, led by the New York Times and Washington Post printed every unsubstantiated rumor about Hillary as the gospel truth, giving every one of them banner headlines above the fold! Meanwhile, anything potentially negative about Teflon Donnie was relegated to inside, even-numbered pages below the fold and along the right edge.
    Psychologically, that is the portion of the newspaper that only front-to-back, top-to-bottom readers will even notice. 90% of the rest of the readers will ignore them as unimportant.
    Effectively, the Mainstream Media allowed themselves to be led by the nose by Teflon Donnie’s team, and now they have trouble explaining why they did so.

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  6. Michael Allen December 1, 2016

    The media focus on the Clinton Foundation was almost exclusively negative. Very little attention was given to the positive goals, efforts, and effects of the foundation.

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  7. Eleanore Whitaker December 1, 2016

    Think about this. Even if, for the sake of trying to trust a word out of Trump’s mouth, he manages to sever all ties to his businesses. They still exist and are fully profitable right?

    Okay, now he and Ryan are saying that they intend to make the US’s biggest tax cuts. How won’t that benefit his family businesses that will continue to bear his name?

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    1. dbtheonly December 1, 2016

      Ms. Eleanore,

      Morning news has the story that “no elected official” is to be a party to the contract leasing the DC site to the Trump Hotel. Trump can’t be both landlord and tenant.

      Wonder which one he’ll punt.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker December 2, 2016

        He is using his “immunity clause” to avoid conflict of interest. He keeps saying there is no law that disallows him to continue to own businesses. But, he is already saying he plans to push the largest tax cut in US history, “larger than the Reagan tax cuts.”

        If he does and he or his family are in any way still owners of the Trump name on any business, he profits from those tax cuts.

        When Bush pushed that 2004 tax, 1 year later the GAO reported that the top 1% income earners with just that single tax cut, became 11% wealthier. So Trump, the Republicans and the right wing pull off a tax cut and it is proven that it has enrich the Trump business empire and he and the Republicans can be impeached according to the Emolument Clause and also under Article II, Sec. 4 as a form of bribery. As president, signing off on legislation is the same as agreeing to flush more profit to his personal business.

        Also, Trump went on a wild spending spree in the 90s against the advice of his own financial advisors. That left him with little credit with banks. So, he figured out that his name had dollar value more than building new buildings or buying up existing ones as part of his Trump real estate empire. This now means that anything with his name on it that earns him a single dime, would be a violation of his using his name as influence while he is president.

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    2. dpaano December 1, 2016

      It will benefit it greatly…..along with benefiting all his billionaire cronies as well!

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      1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        You are soooooooo low energy lol

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  8. rednekokie December 1, 2016

    All of this chatter about what the NYTimes did or did not do is essentially hogwash. They had little effect upon the election, because the people who elected Trump do NOT read the NYTimes.

    The media which should be put to shame is the broadcast media, which went out of its way not only to give Trump huge amounts of free time, but actually encouraged his outrageous remarks in order to raise their own media ratings.

    Of course, I put Fox noise at the head of this list, but NBC, ABC, CBS (what’s left of it) and all the other TV talk shows and business nonsense, especially the cable and satellite news programs, are equally to blame. I predict they will woefully regret their stupidity and greed in the coming few years.

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  9. jaynemcgill December 1, 2016

    After 5 years I finally abandoned my office work and I never felt this good… I started doing a job from comfort of my home, for a company I found on-line, for a few hours daily, and I make much more than i did on my old work… Paycheck i got for last month was for 9 thousand bucks… Great thing about this is that i have more time for my loved ones… http://chilp.it/728813e

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  10. Apostol Pappas December 1, 2016

    No doubt Trump is never going to get anything right on this website.

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    1. dbtheonly December 1, 2016

      He loves his children.

      At least most of them.

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      1. Diane December 1, 2016

        I beg to differ. He “owns” his children. His biographer said Trump treated his children the same way his father treated him — ignored him until he was old enough to begin to lean the business…..So he did with his kids, leaving it up to the mother’s to raise, with the help of Trumps millions.

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      2. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

        citation needed

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        1. dbtheonly December 2, 2016

          Isn’t that what Hillary said when asked to say something nice about Trump?

          Also, one of the ads constantly appearing on this site asks me to click to see why Trump doesn’t talk about his daughter, Tiffany.

          There are serious answers if you want them. I thought the original sufficient answer to Apostol.

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          1. I Am Helpy December 2, 2016

            Nah I’m good. Sociopaths can’t really feel love, though.

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          2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Ru okay or ru smokin Democrack after that crushing defeat by Trump Over Crooked Lying Evil Hillary …

            Reply
          3. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Sorry you’re illiterate.

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          4. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you suk!!

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          5. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Yes I get that you’re a moron.

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          6. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Yes you are a moron let me spell it M O R O N !

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          7. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            See previous post.

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          8. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you’re an idiot sorry!

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        2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

          crying awwwwwwww crying awwwwwwwwwwwwww

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVlHZh5dvbA

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          1. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Sorry you’re like this. Get better soon!

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          2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry I hurt your Liberal crying feelings awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Buut its you liberals who cried us a river and lied to the American People awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww crying

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          3. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            See previous post.

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          4. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you’re a moron and a liberal all in 1 body!

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          5. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you suk!

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          6. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Sorry that you think Hillary is going to prison. You got conned by a used car salesman.

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        3. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

          Get lost before i eat a Tomato

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          1. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Sorry you’re slow.

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          2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you’re a Liberal pos!

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          1. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            I can’t see your Stormfront memes, nazi dude.

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          2. Zengo December 5, 2016

            It’s alright, he is just showing off his superior skills at cut and paste

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  11. CPANY December 1, 2016

    The quality of this site was always dragged down by jerks like Eleanor Whittaker, but lately, additional idiots seem to have signed on.

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  12. Paul Anthony December 1, 2016

    The NYT didn’t bother to dig into Trump’s business connections because they were too busy telling us Hillary was going to win.

    They and all the polls that told us the election was already decided should, in hindsight, be called “fake news sites”.

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    1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

      This is the same NYT that spent the last few years posting fake stories about her emails and the Clinton Foundation?

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      1. dpaano December 1, 2016

        And, forgot several times to bring up all the facts about the alleged “Trump Foundation” and all the problems that were found with this group. They glossed over that very nicely, but went full force against Hillary and the Clinton Foundation! It amazes me! But, as we’ve been told, even if they had delved into the Trump conflicts of interest, his followers tend NOT to read past the headlines anyway.

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      2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        Sorry you’re an idiot!

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      3. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        keep hope alive!!!

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    2. Diane December 1, 2016

      Paul, I recommend you search NYT’s archive on Clinton. They’ve lied about her more than once. More than a dozen times on crucial issues. Don’t pretend NYT is one of your “liberal” press.

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  13. Steve Thompson December 1, 2016

    WOW! Talk about distorting the facts and already attempting to rewrite history into Hillary’s Her Story! The MSM –CNN, WaPo, NYT, MSNBC, ABC, AP, etc., just to name a very few– went out of their way to be complicit with the Clinton DNC crime syndicate and the narrative of both the DNC and the sitting Government under Obama as if it the MSM was their personal marketing and propaganda department. CNN, MSNBC and the NYT have been caught actually being in collusion with Clinton, the DNC and Obama concerning the election. Then the MSM gave Trump over a billion dollars in free advertising covering every single thing he said and did as well as his supporters. Yet they gave Sanders and his supporters zero credence and actually spread lies about Sanders and his supporters as well as colluded with the DNC to subvert his supporters exercising their First Amendment rights at the DNC Convention in Philadelphia this summer. Yet this rag article and NYT proposes that the MSM somehow did its due diligence in investigating Clinton and exposing her scandals in a true investigative journalistic manner? Hogwash! They covered them up and were involved in them! What country do they live in because it sure was not the USA we all saw and lived through. And while they did all this against the populace while pretending to be a “free and independent and objective press”, they were too busy shoveling horse manure that “THEIR” candidate Clinton, was already the winner in bogus polls. The MSM practiced blatant disregard for the true major story of the election season which was that the populace was and still is overwhelmed by and completely, “fed up” with the very nondemocratic and corporate fascist government and its terribly outdated electoral system. Over 18 months of total nonsense from the MSM, the DNC, and the RNC as to how much the nation despises them all and they still cannot get it! Even when they do finally go after Trump’s financial dealings with the same people that Clinton did the same with, they pretend that Clinton was absolved of her scandals. MSM – What joke! A really, really bad, bad joke!

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    1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

      Everything you just said was dumb nonsense.

      I hope that helps!

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      1. Steve Thompson December 2, 2016

        Stop drinking that KoolAid.

        Reply
        1. I Am Helpy December 2, 2016

          Literally nothing you claimed was true. This is not about me – it’s about you.

          I hope that helps!

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          1. Steve Thompson December 3, 2016

            Just keep coloring in your false reality coloring book in your safety pin zone.

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          2. I Am Helpy December 3, 2016

            OK sorry that you’re delusional.

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          3. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you’re a Democrackhead!

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          4. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Thanks for the sophomoric insults.

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          5. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            ru a dude or a female liberal? You sound like a monster!

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          6. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            See previous post.

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          7. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            See previous two posts.

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          8. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            You lost you are ignorant and low energy …go cry….

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          9. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            I, quite literally, have made millions of dollars off Putin’s victory – companies and talent are fleeing the US ahead of the crash, and I’m snapping them up.

            So thanks!

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          10. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            Thank you for being an idiot on these Boards fool…it shows how ignorant, low energy and liberal you are ha ha ha

            Reply
          11. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you’re an idiot!

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          12. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 7, 2016

            LOW LIFE

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          13. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Everything has changed we got AMERICA back from the jive talkin fool Obama a fraud! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/35d2482a625c5531ea9569a79155deef085f11bf8835b123c1ba4f60481bfef3.png

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          14. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            OK thanks for the racism. Sorry you suck.

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          15. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Oh Im sorry I spoke out against Obama now u label me racist WOW typical liberal Democrackhead racist thug response anyone who disagree’s with tHE jive talkin walkin Liberal fool is labeled a racist damnNNNn!! I must keep my mouth shut that’s what the liberals want or they braind u a racist wow only in America!!! Keep Hope alive PRESIDENT TRUMP BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1f5ec2a8fb15a75460fe8b21b59cd3f71ba279072441490fb75ad3b342f26f8b.jpg

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          16. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Yeah I get that you want to pretend you’re not racist, Adolf.

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          17. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Yeah, u want to pretend you a hater on Trump and anyone who defends him or speaks out against the anointed on Obama is a racist…check you’re liberal ass ur the racist thug…b

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          18. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Sorry I don’t speak incoherent racist gibberish.

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          19. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            You suk!

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          20. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            Ru supporting Obama and his hate for America: You suk and I believe you hate anyone who disagree;s with your jive talkin walkin fool….

            Reply
          21. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            OK, The truth about Obama a jive takin disgrace and he is GONE JANUARY 20TH, 2017 THANK YOU AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            Reply
          22. I Am Helpy December 6, 2016

            OK sorry you don’t understand how term limits work. I’ll add it to the list.

            Reply
          23. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Yes I understand that you’re terrified of women. It’s because you’re a weenie.

            Reply
          24. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Ru on drugs?

            Reply
          25. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Russians are on drugs? I guess you probably are.

            Reply
          26. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            Blow up doll for you, you liberal pervert!

            Reply
          27. I Am Helpy December 6, 2016

            Sentence fragment.

            Reply
          28. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            I love how angry you racist diaper fetishists get over imaginary things, while spreading your cheeks for Putin and Trump.

            Reply
          29. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            I love how ignorant, low energy and liberal you be!!! Now go play the horn with Obama and dance on Jimmie fallon with Obama and go play
            with Crooked lying Hillary panties…lol

            Reply
          30. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            Wow. You are really terrified of women, huh? I gotta tell you, you’ll be much happier when you finally come out of the closet and accept your sexuality.

            Reply
          31. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            Obviously your a liberal dirty perverted Liberal always talkin about sex and sexuality I bet you are a dirty old man…..

            Seek help and therapy …ok

            Reply
          32. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            Sorry I don’t speak gibberish. It’s OK to admit you’re gay – studies have conclusively shown that all homophobes are, so it’s not like you’re fooling anyone.

            Reply
          33. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            This is what comes ut of your mouth ….now Please be a good little old man and Swallow it good

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12308f3deb9367a5394b8c11fe5ed90c4d45d1ee696c74430630f7676987bd46.gif

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          34. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            OK sorry you can’t admit that all you want is a big strong black man to take you in his arms.

            Reply
          35. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            why ru racist and ignorant and low life did a strong Trump Supporter knock out the common sense in that Liberal pea brain? You can Kiss Crooked hillary ha ha ha ha ;p;

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          36. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            You sure do get mad when the scientific fact that you’re homosexual is pointed out.

            Reply
          37. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            I crushed you and u keep coming back like a liberal zombie racist thug wow……ry sexually deprived?
            Why

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          38. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            Hey have you read this, creepy stalker guy?
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

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          39. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            Hey low life perverted liberal heres a video for ya creepy liberal racist lying low energy ASS!!!

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVlHZh5dvbA

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          40. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016
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          41. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            1. We’re nazis
            2. We’re too stupid to understand how healthcare works
            3. We are terrified of women
            4. We are super racist
            5. We are too stupid to understand that Trump is the dictionary definition of corrupt
            6. So racist
            7. We voted for Trump because we are literal morons, apparently

            8. The US has literally the most powerful military in the world but we are scared of imaginary things
            8. So, so racist
            9. Ahahahahaha
            10. There must be a magic solution to problems that doesn’t involve thinking!!1

            11. We voted for a guy who literally abused the families of veterans for weeks

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          42. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            I can’t stop giggling at #9. He literally owes hundreds of millions of dollars to SCARY GEORGE SOROS, you idiots.

            Reply
          43. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            loser

            Reply
          44. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            Those multiple replies sure are making it seem like you’re not touchy about this.

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          45. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            Yo wanna be Liberal millionaire hahahahhaha why don’t u
            con yourself some more that your a millionaire>..lol you don’t have to penny’s to rub moron!!

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          46. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            idiot

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          47. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            It’s about you & you suk,,,,

            I hope you understand how stupid your posts are,

            I hope that helps!

            Reply
          48. I Am Helpy December 6, 2016

            Sorry you can’t spell or use punctuation. Would you like me to recommend some remedial adult education? There’s no shame in being as stupid as you are, given the genetic hand you were dealt – your father really shouldn’t have married his sister.

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          49. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 7, 2016

            Ru smokin Democrack again?

            Reply
          50. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            Ur dumb and ignorant and wicked!

            Reply
          51. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            And you’re a creepy stalker that dropped out of elementary school.

            Reply
      2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        Ur dumb and ignorant and wicked!

        Reply
        1. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

          Sorry you’re broken.

          Reply
          1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you suk and swallow

            Reply
          2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry I crushed u like Trump crushed crooked Hillary lol….

            Reply
          3. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Do you think those words convey any information? Did you even graduate from elementary school?

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          4. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            I know it hurts when we call you out as a pathetic liberal liar of misinformation pos! I believe you are an ignorant weak liberal thug who has no common sense or education. I don’t blame you for your ignorance but I blame your parents for raising you wrong…

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      3. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

        You suk!

        Reply
        1. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

          This. Is. Feeble.

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    2. Zengo December 2, 2016

      you lost me at the DNC crime syndicate

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      1. Steve Thompson December 3, 2016

        Then you were lost long before the “DNC Crime Syndicate” comment. Please go back to your safe place where you can continue to color in your false reality coloring book.

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        1. Zengo December 3, 2016

          well, I think you need to go back to your place of hate and fear, asshat

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          1. Steve Thompson December 3, 2016

            I will go back to not support Trump, The RNC, The DNC and Hillary Clinton. I will continue to support true progressives (in the mold of Bernie Sanders) who say what they mean up front and do it -unlike the DNC that only caters to the elite while giving lip service to the people and turning them into basket case cry babies when they don’t get what they want. They sure did not mind beating down us Sanders supporters when we maturely exercised our First Amendment rights when we told them they would lose with Clinton as the nominee.. Otherwise, Zengo, you sound like you might have some hate in yourself to confront. I understand your confusion though, because when you are in an abusive relationship -like you are with Clinton and the DNC- you’re too dependent upon that pain as your self righteous security blanket to hide under from the fact that Hillary and the DNC and MSM all have used and abused you. They got a serious hold on you. Best of luck to us both!

            Reply
          2. Zengo December 3, 2016

            wow, you are a dick!

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          3. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            lol u one crazy ass liberal…

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          4. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            The hate comes from liberals, Democrackhead racist and low energy dnc!!!

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          5. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            I think u need to sit down and shut up ! Tough guy hiding like a liberal racist coward .,…..now go cry….

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVlHZh5dvbA

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  14. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

    So it turns out that Carrier – a company that makes 7.6 billion dollars a year – has been given ten years of tax breaks to keep 800 jobs in the US for two years… and it’s not even going to do that. One year, 800 jobs – and 1300 moving to Mexico immediately.

    Trump is going to be worse for the economy than President Cheney was.

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    1. I Am Helpy December 1, 2016

      Also, this was Carrier’s plan BEFORE they were given the huge tax breaks. Trump wants to pay them to change literally nothing.

      Weirdly, he claimed to the dumb rubes he’d do the exact opposite: “If they’re going to fire all their people, move their plant to Mexico, build air conditioners, and think they’re going to sell those air conditioners to the United States — there’s going to be a tax,” Trump said. Pressed on exactly what that tax would be, Trump replied, “It could be 25 percent, it could be 35 percent, it could be 15 percent — I haven’t determined.”

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      1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

        You liberal moron get a 6th grade education please. did someone knock out the common sense in ya…look at you pathetic, liberal and low energy…you suk!

        Reply
        1. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

          Are you trying to communicate? Those almost look like words, although there’s no particular order in them.

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          1. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            You stupid!

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          2. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            we won u lost now whatcha ya going to do ? Nothing
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVlHZh5dvbA

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          3. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            OK, thanks for all the money! Not sure why you thought it was a good idea to make me even richer, but who cares?

            Reply
      2. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

        Eat it!

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        1. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

          What do you imagine you are achieving, here?

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    2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

      TRUMP SAVED Carrier !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 1,100 jobs saved thank u powerful Trump….thank u for defeating evil Liberal thuggism and the Liberal bias Media!!!

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      1. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

        Yes, at this rate he will save as many jobs as Obama in 250 years, and at only 10000 times the cost.

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        1. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

          Obama did nothing he created division, lies, hate and put America Trillions in debt you ignorant liberal bastard…

          Obama a joke like you Real America lol at this low energy President!! Funny what Obama said ” trump will never be president” hahahahaha he ate his words good one ^5
          https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4ae683aa3c1baebe3daf54ccbbfe97b41c588da96f1b6ceb9e664363daa05afa.jpg

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          1. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            Sorry you hate facts!

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          2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

            Sorry you hate Trump so much but, he is your President whether you’re ignorant low energy liberal ass likes it or not hahahahhaha get lost fool…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/df448d9886ebbd1df7d75b0f875c0c712f1b8a9cc3774eec59f7702a113cebfb.jpg

            Reply
          3. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            I don’t live in America.

            Reply
          4. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            You live in Cuba….

            Reply
          5. I Am Helpy December 6, 2016

            It’s weird that Putin’s manwives keep trying to use communism as an insult. What is up with that?

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          6. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 7, 2016

            We would deport you if u lived in America moron!

            Reply
          7. I Am Helpy December 7, 2016

            Sorry, your unpunctuated racism doesn’t have anything to do with what I said.

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          8. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            Sorry, your so Liberal bankrupt mentally, spiritually and emotionally. Does your racism include hate for everyone who voted for Trump you Liberal racist Democrackhead thug low life? You need help you little B*

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        2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 5, 2016

          LOL UR an idiot Obama is a failed man Trillions in debt wake up!

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          1. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            I know that, as an illiterate school dropout, you don’t understand facts, but Obama shaved one trillion dollars off the deficit (that Bush created). There is not a single stated GOP economic goal that Obama didn’t exceed.

            I hope that helps! Sorry you bent over for Putin based on easily verified false pretences, but that’s because you’re a moron.

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          2. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            Sorry moron, .I own businesses and im financially strong unlike you low energy fool!!! I’m more educated then you …the Fact is that Obama is a low energy President put America trillions in debt. Fact Obama made America weak economically and militarily, Sorry you suk like a liberal poshit that you are…….

            Obama will go down in history as the worst failed President eva. Disgraceful, arrogant, divider in chief a race baitin fool!!

            Now go march & wav dat fist on high you liberal moron! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4f5dbde87f1f40e7b9606d8ddadb198899b4434a398a693f9ae3d6b4ee4a9ab7.jpg

            Reply
          3. I Am Helpy December 6, 2016

            I am a millionaire. You are clearly illiterate, and there is no way you own a goddam thing.

            I hope that helps!

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          4. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            LOL you area millionaire Liberal Con Artists you liberal pig! lol…
            you can cry,……protest !!!! poor liberals,.

            Reply
          5. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            Are those words meant to mean anything? Are you mad because I keep linking to the study that shows you’re gay?

            (this one)

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          6. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            Loser

            Reply
          7. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            You okay you Liberal pos!

            Reply
          8. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            Sorry you hate facts! Here’s some more facts for you, though:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

            Reply
          9. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            stupid is is stupid be

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          10. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            Hmm yes but have you considered this?

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          11. I Am Helpy December 5, 2016

            In fact, the only President who outperformed Obama economically was Bill Clinton, who created a massive surplus despite the failed policies of the Reagan years.

            Reply
          12. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

            Ru smokin Democrack again moron?

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          13. I Am Helpy December 6, 2016

            Sorry I forgot you live in a fantasy world of stupid make-believe. Too bad Jade Helm didn’t get you, with the Agenda 21 UN bicycle paths or whatever.

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          14. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            OK but what do you think about this:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

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        3. GODBlessRealAmerica#1 December 6, 2016

          Obama will save nothing you brainwashed fantasy fool…
          You are ignorant and low energy!

          Reply
          1. I Am Helpy December 6, 2016

            Obama’s TARP saved 3 million jobs, and made a profit of more than 15 billion dollars (ahead of schedule).

            I hope that helps!

            Reply
          2. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            OK thanks for spamming that everywhere before you slip into your daily meth coma.

            Reply
          3. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016
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          4. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            This meltdown is amazing. A tantrum across every single thread for the last month, all because I posted this:
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

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          5. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

            Heres your melt down lmnyassoff @ This liberal moron lol
            hahahahha who thinks hes a millionaire lol what a liberal fraud…
            Hey con artist you okay???

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/12308f3deb9367a5394b8c11fe5ed90c4d45d1ee696c74430630f7676987bd46.gif

            Reply
          6. I Am Helpy December 8, 2016

            That’s 30 replies within the last few hours. Amazing. I own you.

            And it’s all down to the fact you can’t admit you’re in the closet!

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          7. David December 9, 2016

            You are a fraud!

            Reply
          8. I Am Helpy December 9, 2016

            OMG six months later and diaper boy is suddenly jealous about his meltdown getting eclipsed!

            Reply
          9. David December 9, 2016

            Still a POS fraud!

            Reply
          10. I Am Helpy December 9, 2016

            I’m so far under your skin you probably dream about me.

            Reply
          11. David December 9, 2016

            Still yakking? You are a miserable fraud.

            Reply
          12. I Am Helpy December 9, 2016

            Nice to know I still own you.

            Reply
          13. David December 9, 2016

            Once a POS fraud, always a POS fraud!

            Reply
          14. I Am Helpy December 9, 2016

            Yes you are hilariously broken. Was this your sockpuppet account? Is that why you turned up super mad about imaginary things?

            Reply
          15. David December 10, 2016

            POS fraud!

            Reply
          16. I Am Helpy December 10, 2016

            I’m not hearing a no!

            Reply
          17. David December 10, 2016

            POS fraud!

            Reply
          18. I Am Helpy December 10, 2016

            Seek professional help! Normal people – not even your fellow racists – don’t follow other people around for six months about an imaginary slight!

            Reply
          19. David December 10, 2016

            POS fraud!

            Reply
          20. I Am Helpy December 10, 2016

            See previous post.

            Reply
          21. David December 10, 2016

            POS fraud!

            Reply
          22. I Am Helpy December 10, 2016

            See previous two posts.

            Reply
          23. David December 10, 2016

            POS fraud!

            Reply
          24. I Am Helpy December 10, 2016

            See previous three posts.

            Reply
        4. GODBlessRealAmerica December 8, 2016

          YO MILLIONAIRE LIBERAL CON ARTIST WHATEVER U SMOKING SHOWS!

          Reply

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