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WATCH: Sarah Palin Distrusts ‘Liberal’ Media, ‘Liberal’ Pope

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WATCH: Sarah Palin Distrusts ‘Liberal’ Media, ‘Liberal’ Pope

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If Pope Francis were a U.S. congressman, his district would be in Sarah Palin’s crosshairs.

In a recent interview with CNN, the former governor of Alaska and vice-presidential candidate admits she hasn’t done her “homework” on Pope Francis, and insists that she isn’t going to trust what she hears about him in the media. Still, she says that she’s currently “taken aback” by the new Pope.

“He’s had some statements that to me sound kind of liberal, has taken me aback, has kind of surprised me. There again, unless I really dig deep into what his messaging is, and do my own homework, I’m not going to just trust what I hear in the media,” Palin said.

Palin, one must assume, is referring to how in a widely read September interview, Pope Francis declared that the Catholic Church had become “obsessed” with such issues as abortion and gay marriage, and has used his papacy to instead refocus the Church on issues like poverty and hunger. He’s also criticized “savage capitalism” and has called on governments to use their power to protect citizens from market forces.

“Imbalance results from ideologies which uphold the absolute autonomy of markets and financial speculation, and thus deny the right of control to States, which are themselves charged with providing for the common good,” Francis said in May.

Thus, it’s no surprise that Sarah Palin and the Tea Party are no longer politically aligned with the Vatican.

But Palin’s statement trivializes an issue important to 75 million U.S. Catholics.

While a large majority of U.S. Catholics (68 percent) agree that the Church is too focused on issues like abortion and contraception, there are a significant number who have done their “homework” on Pope Francis and are nonetheless disenchanted by his narrative.

Matt C. Abbott, a Catholic columnist for conservative website Renew America, told Laurie Goodstein of the New York Times: “For orthodox and conservative Catholics the last few months have been a rollercoaster ride,” adding, “I’m not a big fan of rollercoasters.”

As Goodstein reports, there are plenty of U.S. Catholics who, like Abbott,  study Catholic social teaching, work in the pro-life movement and struggle with the Pope’s views. “It seems he’s focusing on bringing back the left that’s fallen away, but what about the conservatives?” Bridget Kurt, a hospice community educator, told Goodstein. “Even when it was discouraging working in pro-life, you always felt like Mother Teresa was on your side and the popes were encouraging you. Now I feel kind of thrown under the bus.”

Sarah Palin’s rambling statement about media bias and Pope Francis, however, does nothing but undermine U.S. Catholics who are genuinely struggling with a significant moment in Church history, and have made the effort to inform themselves before speaking out.

222 Comments

  1. disqus_ivSI3ByGmh November 13, 2013

    “Orthodox and Conservative Catholics”? Since when did Catholicism and Judaism develop the same branches? The only people who can be called Orthodox Catholics are members of Eastern Orthodox Churches. The only people who can be called Conservative Catholics have, by default, identified themselves with the Republican party.

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    1. Judith Toronchuk November 14, 2013

      I’m sorry but members of Eastern Orthodox churches do not consider themselves to be Roman Catholic. And the Roman Catholic church does not consider them Roman Catholic either. You are referring to a much smaller group of Catholics who use the Byzantine liturgy which is also used by the Orthodox churches.

      1. Annemb November 14, 2013

        True post!

        In 1054 the East and West broke ranks and have been separated ever since. The schism was due to the Filioque clause in the Nicene Creed.

        1. Allan Richardson November 14, 2013

          And from the Eastern point of view, all the Popes since then have been Protestant (because they broke away from the “true Church”), along with their Roman Catholic followers.

          Of course, the Filioque clause was just the theological excuse. From the time of Constantine (and before) the ultimate authority was considered to rest in a CONFERENCE of ALL of the major Bishops, and no one Bishop, not even that of Rome (or, for that matter, of Constantinople, the new Imperial capital), could make binding Dogma on his own. But after the fall of the Western part of the Empire, Western Europe lost regular contact with everything east of Rome, so that Bishop came to be the ulitimate authority on his own, to which the Bishop of Constantinople objected. And there were cultural differences too: Greek vs Latin, beards vs no beards, and later, celibacy vs marriage for priests (today, Greek Orthodox priests are usually married, but after being promoted to Bishop, if they are not already married or lose their wives, they must remain single).

          1. Annemb November 14, 2013

            I understand what you’re saying.

            I was chrismated in the Eastern Orthodox Church and of course studied their history too, using Timothy Ware’s wonderful book, “The Orthodox Church, which I still have a copy of in my library. In Seminary we also studied the history of the church. The Orthodox consider (only) the first seven church councils valid.

  2. Michael Ross November 13, 2013

    They SHOULD feel like they’ve been thrown under the bus. Because they DESERVED to be thrown under the bus.

    The key difference between Francis and Palin is not a stance on gay marriage or abortion. It’s that the former is actually PRACTICING Christianity while the latter just enjoys boasting that she is.

    As a Christian, you are supposed to look at Jesus on the cross as the ultimate role model for humanity; to consider what kind of man could have suffered like that and still been able to forgive, and also to ask yourself what you can do to better aspire to that example.

    Palin, in contrast, only asks herself who she can shit on today to make her feel better about herself. Faux Christians like her only give a flying crap about the “sins” they never had any plans to commit in the first place.

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    1. latebloomingrandma November 13, 2013

      Amen! Nothing that comes out of Palin’s mouth sounds like a Christian.

      1. foundingprinciples November 14, 2013

        What about knowing that she was going to have a mentally handicapped child to take care of for the rest of her life, and knowing that she could abort the unborn baby – Yet deciding to give birth?

        1. stcroixcarp November 14, 2013

          She had a CHOICE to abort or give birth. That is the point. The path she chose should not be forced on others.

          1. foundingprinciples November 15, 2013

            No, nothing is forced. It is legal to kill unborn babies. Someone called Palin a hypocrite with religion and morals. I pointed out what she did. You are dishonest: You switched the topic.

          2. patuxant November 15, 2013

            You have no founding principles. Change your username to “nonsense”!

          3. nirodha November 15, 2013

            We would not even have this cyber discussion had only her mother had an abortion. More’s the pity.

          4. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Typical from the Left: Wish suffering and death on those who disagree with the dogma.

          5. nirodha November 17, 2013

            I didn’t wish suffering and death on anyone, doc. I merely stated a fact; please refrain from projecting your thoughts of gloom and doom. Thank you.

          6. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            He can’t help it. He knows that his opinions are vile and despicable, so he feels the need to lie in order to support them. That’s his MO, and the MO of many sordid Tea Bigots. When has any Tea Bigot ever been caught telling a truth?

          7. nirodha November 17, 2013

            You’re absolutely correct, WHS! Just think, if it were not for lying, members of the TPotty would be mute! Now there’s a happy thought!

          8. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            {I didn’t wish suffering and death on anyone}

            You did. On Palin.

          9. nirodha November 17, 2013

            No, Palin, like all human beings is suffering just by existing, and like all human beings will surely die. My wishing for anything alters nothing.

          10. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            I know you cannot wish anyone dead and make it happen, but you displayed such hate that you speculated about Palin’s mother having had an abortion.

          11. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            The fact that she was free to make her own personal choice IS the point. If you claim it is anything else, then you are the liar here.

          12. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            For moral people, there is no choice. But I suppose one can look at it differently. As I am driving a car, I actually DO have a choice of running over a pedestrian or not. But I really do not look at it that way; it does not enter my mind, of course.

            Same principle: Liberals have no respect for the life of the unborn, so they can think about whether or not to snuff out the life of the unborn child very easily. Then, I guess, with that mindset, there is a choice.

          13. nirodha November 17, 2013

            Unless you have ever been a pregnant woman you have absolutely no idea of the conflict and agony inherent in the decision to terminate. Do you really think that women, “liberal” or otherwise, get pregnant so that they can have an abortion?

          14. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Not a valid statement. The myth that “unless one is of a certain group, one can never understand that group” is a method of cutting off common humanity. It says that group A is completely different from Group B and one can never understand the other.

            It is not only cold-blooded to say something like that, it also provides a convenient excuse for lazy minds: They can simply denounce and discount another’s principles and declare them invalid. It is a method of shutting off one from any kind of participation, devaluing them.

            And it is a method of attempted intimidation.

            Problem is, it doesn’t work with me. I see right through it.

          15. nirodha November 17, 2013

            In your example of Group A and Group B, you are describing the duality of thinking common to most human beings. Actually. everything is interconnected. There is no Group A or Group B, as human thinking, based in ignorance, is responsible for that concept. Once ignorance is removed, then the oneness of everything is evident. To remove ignorance requires much work. In effect, you are that pregnant woman struggling with her decision.

          16. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            “all human beings is suffering just by existing”

            “duality of thinking common to most human beings” (except nirodha, right?)

            Sounds a bit Buddhisty there. Theravada?

            Or just the formulaic “New Age” dreck?

          17. nirodha November 17, 2013

            Mahayana. And no, I still resort to duality; haven’t quite reached enlightenment yet. Maybe another hundred lifetimes or so…

          18. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            I see. That is why you think you are above it all. Coming on these threads and contradicting yourself.

            “He who knows does not talk, and he who talks does not know…..”

            LOL

          19. nirodha November 17, 2013

            Well, doc, the sword cuts both ways, does it not?

          20. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            So, in the meantime, you can be a pompous ass and throw out the nonsense about

            “duality of thinking common to most human beings”

            “everything is interconnected”

            “human thinking, based in ignorance”

            Blah, blah, blah….

          21. kanawah November 18, 2013

            Read you bible. It is not a live child until it takes its first breath.

          22. foundingprinciples November 18, 2013

            Oh…. So a kill at 7 or 8 months of pregnancy is fine by that standard.

          23. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Just force death on the unborn baby. I understand now….

        2. Lynda Groom November 14, 2013

          How is choice to carry a handicapped child to term connected to religion. Those kinds of decisions happen to women all over the world…Christian or not.

          1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Yes. The responsible and moral thing to do, no matter what one’s religious beliefs, is to not kill the unborn baby, of course.

          2. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            That’s your personal opinion. Your opinion is no more valid than the next person’s opinion. There is no difference between forcing a person to have an abortion and forcing a person not to have an abortion — both are forcing your will upon another person, which means that you don’t believe in individual freedom.

          3. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            I do not adhere to moral relativism. In fact, it is not possible. Left-wingers think that there can be moral relativism, but it is not possible. It is only a “concept” that Liberals use to justify what they want to justify.

          4. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            Any discussion of morals necessarily needs to include the subject of lying. You lie incessantly, which is the most egregious form of ‘moral relativism’ because it occurs in the present tense. So even your own lying arguments can be used against you.

          5. nirodha November 17, 2013

            How about the case of a woman whose pregnancy will cause her death and the death of the fetus? Abortion of the fetus will save the woman. No abortion=2 deaths. That is moral? If that’s your code, I am a moral relativist.

          6. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            That is not moral relativism. Moral relativism is impossible and only broadcast by Liberals who are not moral relativists and only want to push their agenda.

            But nobody, not even Catholic Ireland where killing unborn babies is illegal, says that the unborn baby is not removed to save the life of the mother, of course. You have just committed an egregious error of logic. But you know that, of course……

        3. highpckts November 14, 2013

          Millions of people decide to keep their babies knowing what she did! So? She had that choice which the GOP wants take away!!

          1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Governor Sarah Palin did not look at it as a “choice.” It was a living human, and the “choice” was only that she would – under Leftist newly created “rights” – KILL that unborn baby if she wanted. Of course, she knew that killing the unborn baby was wrong.

          2. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            Bullshit. It was ALL choice, from getting pregnant in the first place to choosing not to abort the child. I respect her choice, but it’s clear that you don’t. You belittle her decision by claiming that it wasn’t a choice at all. That’s because you don’t believe in freedom, rather, you just lie about it because it sounds good.

          3. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            People should be held responsible for their choices, of course.

          4. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            You don’t believe in choice. You believe in big government forcing choices on people.

          5. highpckts November 17, 2013

            You know don’t you, that anything the “ex-governor quitter” says has no revelance anymore except with the hardcore right!
            And you totally missed my point! It’s about choice, any choice that an American woman has a right to!

          6. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Why not say what that “choice” is?

            Lefty-Libs use words like “choice” because they know Americans can be duped with that language since Americans are all about freedom and freedom means “choice.”

            So, the Left-wingers try to get unborn baby killing conceptualized as “choice” in the popular mind.

            Nice, if you can swing it!

          7. highpckts November 17, 2013

            ROE/WADE

          8. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Need to overturn it. The woman involved, now Norma McCorvey, knows what she did was wrong and wants the law allowing the indiscrininate killing of unborn babies to be overturned.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc_TgP3QLE4

          9. highpckts November 18, 2013

            You know what? Your beliefs are your beliefs but not the majorities beliefs! Don’t force your beliefs on everyone else! Like it or not, you aren’t a woman and you’re not in the majority!

          10. foundingprinciples November 18, 2013

            OK, go ahead and force YOUR beliefs on the unborn baby and kill him or her.

          11. highpckts November 19, 2013

            That fetus or zygot has no beliefs as yet!

          12. highpckts November 17, 2013

            We have that choice just as you have the choice to own a gun!

          13. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Yes, and if I kill anyone with the gun, I go to prison.

        4. latebloomingrandma November 14, 2013

          She should be commended for that, if her child is getting the proper care and attention. The far right, in my area anyway, seemed to believe that her qualifications for VP had to do with the fact that she did not have an abortion. The loved her for that, and didn’t care what stupidity came from her mouth.

          1. patuxant November 15, 2013

            Boy, you said it! What stupidity came from her mouth. That child is undoubtedly more intelligent than this wind bag fool!

          2. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Typical of the Left: Cannot just show respect for anyone’s brave and moral decisions. Have to belittle them. (Probably to promote abortions…..)

          3. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            You are the one belittling her decision, because you are a liar. You don’t believe in individual freedom.

          4. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            I believe that an unborn child has a right to life. Liberals don’t.

          5. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            You don’t believe anything of the sort. What you believe is forcing your vile and despicable desires upon others via the government. That’s not at all the same thing.

        5. WhutHeSaid November 14, 2013

          How would she like it if progressives were busy trying to create laws that would have FORCED her to abort against her will? That’s the other side of the bitter, lying, redneck Tea-Bagger coin.

          1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Nope. It is respecting life, not advocating death.

          2. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            What it’s really about is respecting an individual’s decision. So forcing your wishes upon another person’s personal life, whether that choice is to abort or not, tells us all the real story about your respect for an individual’s decisions and liberty.

            If you advocate forcing your will upon another’s personal health and life without reasonable justification, then anything you say about respecting freedom and the decisions of others is nothing but a lie.

            So the question is: Do you respect the right of an individual to make that decision for themselves or are you a liar when it comes advocating individual freedom?

          3. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Ask the unborn baby in about 15 years.

          4. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            No, ask them right now — not in 15 years. There’s a problem with that you say? Well, that’s part of the point, now isn’t it?

            A fetus in the womb cannot make the decision for themselves. Nor can they make the decision for the mother, whose very life is sometimes at stake in said decision. You have absolutely no idea what opinion the fetus might have if they could understand the situation. Although you may guess, it would only be a guess. The same would hold true in 15 years: Any opinion wouldn’t be yours, and the best that you could do would be to guess at what that opinion might be.

            But you aren’t worried about the opinions of the fetus or the woman, rather, you are only concerned with your own. Why is this? Well, it’s because you are a type of person who believes that they have some right to judge the life or death of others. This is, of course, a vile remnant of an earlier point in human evolution — a point when humans did quite a few despicable things.

            But your particular case goes further than that. You continuously lie about the topic, because you know that your positions are sordid and despicable. Nobody ‘likes’ the idea of an abortion, yet you keep making claims that people actively encourage abortions or even enjoy them. This is, of course, a lie, and it proves that even you don’t believe your own arguments. Arguments with merit don’t need to be supported by lies.

        6. patuxant November 15, 2013

          Pin a rose on her f–king nose!

          1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Violence from the Left.

        7. sealbeams November 15, 2013

          She should have been on the pill.

          1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            So, you fault Governor Palin for giving birth to a handicapped child. Typical statement from the left.

          2. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            Typical lie from a vile and despicable Tea Bigot. Liberal policies respect a woman’s decision — just as much to give birth to their child as to abort. The only ones trying to force their will upon other people are you bitter right-wing nuts, because you don’t believe in individual freedom.

            You are a vile and despicable liar. Your claim that anyone advocates abortion or likes abortion is utter bullshit. The law of this country is that women are free to make this very personal decision for themselves, without interference from the government. You clearly advocate government power above personal liberty, but your blatant dishonesty on this issue tells us something a bit more sordid about you.

          3. sealbeams November 17, 2013

            I don’t care what Palin does. You people have major concerns about fetuses but once that fetus becomes a human being you stop caring. I think you want them to live so they can fight your wars. When they come back you abandon them. At least Palin’s kid won’t have to fight in any of your wars. Why the hell do you continue to call this person Governor? Did you know she quit?

          4. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            I see. You conclude – with no proof, and even proof to the contrary (Catholic Charities, for example) – that it is better to destroy the unborn child than to take a chance that he or she may live in poverty.

          5. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            You continuously lie because you know your own argument to be without merit. Nobody here has ever said that it is ‘better’ to abort than to risk a child living in poverty. What they DO say is that a very personal decision that affects their life, and the life of a child, should be left to the person and not the government.

            Have you ever tried debating without lying?

          6. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            {Nobody here has ever said that it is ‘better’ to abort than to risk a child living in poverty.}

            You are dishonest; that is why I reply less and less to you.

            The juxtaposition of “well, since (myth) Republicans will not spend more money on welfare, we should have the extermination option” is quite obvious.

          7. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            Don’t imagine that you are doing any favors by spilling your vapid bile. You have the singular distinction of being the most dishonest poster on this topic.

            Nobody here has ever claimed to like abortion despite your repeated dishonest claims to the contrary. Yet another dishonest claim that you’ve made on numerous occasions is that all liberals are pro-choice — which has never been true.

            By now you are well-known on The National Memo for your unabashed lying. Even your moniker is a form of lie, since you don’t even understand the founding principles upon which this country was built. You continue to ignore the fact that the Founders were all liberals, their goals were liberal, and the government and country they created was and is liberal. Individual freedom was and still is a liberal concept, and your belief in big government forcing itself into the reproductive decisions of individuals proves your disdain for individual liberty.

          8. sealbeams November 17, 2013

            And you think it is better for the child be born into a life of not even knowing what a life is. There are millions of children on this earth that are starving to death as we speak. I’m for helping them. To me, Palin having this child is selfish.

          9. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            {you think it is better for the child be born into a life of not even knowing what a life is.}

            What the ….. does THAT mean?

            {There are millions of children on this earth that are starving to death as we speak.}

            Typical pompous and arrogant “save-the-world-I-care” Left-winger.

            Let’s at least stay with the greatest country in the world before saving the rest of the world via Left-wingerism, OK?

          10. sealbeams November 18, 2013

            What a contradiction. You want to save the kid with Downs Syndrome because it lives in what you think is the greatest country but let millions of kids starve to death because they are poor. Look up pompous and arrogant in the dictionary. Better yet, look in the mirror.

          11. foundingprinciples November 18, 2013

            You are a liar. Don’t want anyone to starve to death. But rather than take that chance (which is actually not happening in reality), you would kill the unborn baby first. And you attack others to defend your advocacy of this legalized killing. I understand now…..

          12. sealbeams November 19, 2013

            LOL. Enjoyed our conversation. Calm down. Everything will be OK.

          13. sealbeams November 18, 2013

            What a contradiction! Do what ever it takes to save the kid with downs syndrome because it lives in what you consider to be the greatest country in the world but it is OK to let children starve to death in poor countries. Pompous and arrogant? Look it up in your Websters or look in the mirror.

  3. latebloomingrandma November 13, 2013

    As a practicing Catholic, I have prayed for someone like Pope Francis to head our troubled church. He’s not so much for changing doctrine as to change the tone and modus operandi. The most strident pro-life people are not really pro-life as much as they are zealously anti-abortion. How could one proclaim to be pro-life and be so vehement about the “evils” of health care for all? Or food stamps. Pope Francis just is trying to swing the message back to the gospel—-forgiveness, caring for the poor and each other, and to not be so judgmental. I doubt Palin does her homework on anything, and knows nothing about Catholicism. Maybe she should stick to hockey.

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    1. Sand_Cat November 13, 2013

      She probably just likes the fights! What makes you think she knows anything about hockey, either?

      1. robertbenefiel@att.net November 14, 2013

        Sarah Palin is one of the shallowest person that I have ever been exposed to in my life. She probably watch cartoons on Saturday morning. But what is more disturbing is that people pay to listen to her. Now that is very difficult to comprehend.

        1. nirodha November 15, 2013

          She very likely would enjoy the weighty tomes in the George W. Bush Library; you know, his collection of comic books.

      2. patuxant November 14, 2013

        Sand Cat: She wants the limelight pure and simple.

    2. foundingprinciples November 14, 2013

      {He’s not so much for changing doctrine as to change the tone and modus operandi.}

      Really? Interesting how Left-wingers were not saying that when he was first considered: The Liberals were screaming and throwing tantrums about his anti-same sex marriage stance in his home country, remember?

      1. highpckts November 14, 2013

        Of course we are still talking about Pope Francis and not the past papacy? I left the church because of their stance on a whole lot of things. And I resent being called a “left-winger” because it denotes somthing that is evil by the GOP when it should mean someone with a modicum of common sense and humanity!

        1. robertbenefiel@att.net November 14, 2013

          It is even amazing that I am participating in a discussion of the Pope as a person who mentally left the church when I was 12 years of age. But I was encouraged by a Pope who even brought up a discussion of the poor.

        2. Joe Derringer November 14, 2013

          The left and common sense do not go together. Was it common sense to elect a community organizer with zero executive experience as president of the US? A man of questionionable upbringing, friends, and mentors? And Humanity? Is it humane to murder the most innocent of our beings? Is it right for planned parenthood to tell mothers that their babies won’t feel pain when they murder them? Is it right to tell the mothers is it is a safe procedure when hundreds of mothers die each year of botched abortions? You have no conception of humanity. As Mother Teresa once said, “If Abortion is not evil, what is?” You left the church because you are spiritually weak it didn’t fit your filthy life style.

          1. highpckts November 14, 2013

            NOTHING has been proven “questionable” about the President no matter how hard the GOP tried!! So this is about abortion? Take your ranting somewhere else! You don’t get to speak if you don’t experience it! The GOP only cares about the Fetus, not the born child hence cutting all the help before and after birth!

          2. patuxant November 14, 2013

            As mentioned to the idiot, JD, if a fetus cannot survive outside the woman without being a parasite living off of the host, it is not a person in my mind.

          3. Allan Richardson November 14, 2013

            Although that terminology is too “heartless” for my taste, as a “mostly-pro-life-personally” but “pro-choice-politically” liberal Protestant, it strikes me as ironic that no one (perhaps some Libertarian?) has applied the same merciless moral stance to a fetus as they apply to the poor (and most of the poor are working poor): proclaiming that the fetus must not be allowed to “force” its mother to support it with her own body.

            Personally, I am pro-life with reasonable exceptions: the only ones I would permit myself if I were a woman would be rape, incest, my own health or the viability of the fetus. I do not consider a fetus as FULLY human until it has a viable brain (which is a fuzzy line but a place to start), and thus it can regretfully, but ethically, be aborted for various reasons at various stages. I am aware that very few women conceive just to have an excuse for an abortion, but are rather in a very desperate situation, either medically (ectopic pregnancy being the biggest case), or emotionally (imagine being raped as a small girl by your own father, or a man who ought to be a father figure), or financially (being poor, having a child or two already, and birth control fails), or having a non-viable fetus (sometimes there is no human brain growing in there). These women are on the horns of a dilemma, and have ALREADY wrestled with their consciences and the circumstances. Why put them under the third degree just to satisfy a politician’s voyeuristic fantasy?

            But while the new Pope Francis may have to PREACH the hard line in the pulpit, he seems to understand that, when a person comes for pastoral care, the rules must be balanced with compassion. Conservatives in America today, like the Calvinists who first broke away from the Catholic Church, have a tendency to emphasize the God of vengeance much more than the God of compassion and mercy.

            I hope someday a safe method will be discovered of transferring a fetus from one woman’s womb to another’s, so that a woman who is not capable of safely bearing a child, or rearing it properly, can opt for “prenatal adoption” to a woman who truly wants, and is spiritually suited for, the experience of motherhood. And I also hope that someday the rigidity of “infallibilty” will relax enough to allow for contraception, in order to save humanity from overpopulation. There ought not to be any conception without choice, planning, and ideally, deliberate medical intervention to make it possible.

          4. Mark Forsyth November 14, 2013

            He is the after birth!

          5. highpckts November 14, 2013

            If that is your form of humor, it fell WAY short!

          6. Mark Forsyth November 14, 2013

            Got a problem with it honey? I wasn’t trying for humor.

          7. highpckts November 14, 2013

            You don’t know me or what my lifestyle is so blow it put your butt!! You prove everything everyone says about the GOP! Name calling extremists!!

          8. prklvr November 14, 2013

            State mandated reproduction is what is “evil”—–
            Government enforced pregnancy with literally no concern after the actual birth of the child is “evil.”
            Reproductive freedom being so severely restricted by pseudo moralists that even one procedure is “botched” is “evil”

          9. patuxant November 14, 2013

            You are a complete and utterly useless personhood. You must be an idiot to still not accept the President as an natural citizen and you say the left and common sense don’t go together? Was it humane for the US to wage a war in Iraq to find no WMDs, Bush’s whole premise? You are a frigging fool. And who are you to quote Mother Teresa? If a fetus can only survive by living off its host, it is not a person.

          10. jointerjohn November 14, 2013

            Boy it sure was nice of you not to be sanctimonious or judgmental. Must be nice to be able to divine another person’s lifestyle and state of spiritual health from 90 words or less.

          11. nirodha November 15, 2013

            Hey, Joe, you seem to forget what the Jewish carpenter’s son said when he advised “let him among you who is without sin cast the first stone” or words to that effect. Just sayin’…

          12. A_Real_Einstein November 16, 2013

            Church is for people who can’t think for themselves.

          13. Independent1 November 16, 2013

            Quite a diatribe from a worshiper of Satan! How’s that you say! You’ve obviously aligned yourself with the Devil’s party, the GOP…the party whose mantra is MONEY ABOVE ALL ELSE!!
            And Jesus quite clearly stated: You cannot mix God and Mammon (money/worldly things), which is exactly what the GOP spends all its efforts doing – thus it’s clearly the Devil’s party!!

            And you ask: ‘Was it common sense to elect a community organizer with zero executive experience as president of the US?

            Well, tell you what Devil worshiper, I’ll stack up the accomplishments this community organizer has accomplished over the past 4 years against any president the GOP has elected since Teddy Roosevelt. For each accomplishment of a GOP president that has benefited the U.S. with the motivation being something other than funneling money into the pockets of corporations, or for the purpose of defense that you can dream up, I’ll list 2-3 much better accomplishments that President Obama has done for America.

            Plus, you talk about electing a community organizer, while the alternative was to clearly vote for nothing more than the Devil’s henchman. A man that epitomizes Satan himself. As I mentioned earlier, you cannot serve God and Mammon and there are few examples of pure Mammon in the world that exceed Mitt Romney. A man who pretends to belong to a devout religious organization, while at the same time spending his life cramming into it every worldly thing including money that he can get his hands on: 5 houses, multiple cars and rich man’s toys, extravagant over the top living at it’s max. And it’s one of the Devil’s henchman that American’s should have elected??? I think not!!

            And talk about evil – I’ll tell you what’s evil, its governing states in a way that not only shortens the lives of everyone living in them, but also allows state after state to dominate America with the highest rates of infant mortality. 11 of the 12 states with the highest infant mortality in America are all GOP run states!! Also all 15 states with the shortest life expectancy in America, the only states whose life expectancy are less than age 78 are all GOP Run states!! Red States that are so anti-Christian that like everything else the GOP does they are MONEY FOCUSED!!

            GOP governors and legislatures that make budget decisions not on what’s best for the citizens, but what’s best for the pockets of corporations and the people in their state that already have more money than they ever deserved in this life!! That’s what’s evil!! Destroying people’s lives that are already alive; not some fetus that hasn’t even developed into anything that stand on its own outside its mothers womb.

            And it’s evil to believe that banning abortions and closing clinics is going to stop abortion – when many of those making these choices know fully well that before Roe vs Wade when abortion was banned, IT DIDN’T STOP ABORTIONS!! BANNING THEM ONLY INCREASED THE DEATH RATES OF WOMEN SEEKING ABORTIONS FROM QUACKS IN SOME DARK ALLEY OR WAREHOUSE OR WHEREVER IT COULD BE PERFORMED.

            YOU ARE THE ONE WHO IS EVIL!! EVIL AS EVERY SIN!!!

            ag

      2. robertbenefiel@att.net November 14, 2013

        The point of the article is not the attacks from the left but the attack from the right. Of course, the doctrines of the church are very oppressive of the poor, but even when the Pope suggestion some assistance and attention to the poor and hungry, he is attacked from the right for going too far focusing on helping the poor. Your reply to the discussion is to attack the left for the criticism by the right of the Pope. A strategy of distraction and to facilitate a continuing disregard of the poor, which incidentally is contrary to Christ’s teachings.

      3. patuxant November 14, 2013

        WHAT????!!!!! What rock did you crawl out from under?

      4. latebloomingrandma November 14, 2013

        These protestors on the left were most probably former and non-Catholics.

        1. highpckts November 14, 2013

          You bet!! Whatever!!

      5. Lovefacts November 14, 2013

        Any points you might have made were lost as soon as you reverted to name calling and labeling people. Why not just celebrate that a gentle soul is Pope and is more interested in people of all religions or no religions than in doctrine? As to what he preached to his parishioners in Argentina versus now, it’s important to note his role has changed. He’s now the leader of his Church and can have impact on a global scale.

        I know having someone with that mindset–live and let live–in an authoritative position is a novel experience for you and one you don’t seem to like, but the rest of us are hopeful this signals a change. So how about for once letting go on the nasty names, the labeling, and sit back and see what happen.

        1. foundingprinciples November 15, 2013

          {I know having someone with that mindset–live and let live–in an authoritative position is a novel experience for you and one you don’t seem to like}

          You contradicted yourself in that mealy-mouthed attempt to pontificate, ya know. Do you see where?

      6. Mark Forsyth November 14, 2013

        Hey jerk,we will let you change what little mind you have as long as you shut up and let others change their minds as they see fit.

      7. sealbeams November 17, 2013

        Catholics don’t need anyone to smear them. Just ask the thousands of little boys that believed in Catholicism before these creeps showed them the real fear of God. The largest population of believers are children. Why? Because mommy and daddy told them so. Just ask a kid why he or she believes. Most people grow up.

        1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

          {The largest population of believers are children. Why? Because mommy and daddy told them so.}

          And the Left-winger wants the STATE to tell the children the TRUTH.

          Typical…..

    3. robertbenefiel@att.net November 14, 2013

      As a former Catholic I agree with what you stated. As a child I admired St. Francis of Assisi but I learned that the world was much more vile and hateful then I could have ever imagined. I was startled when I heard Pope Francis talking about people with a little compassion. Rarely hear that from people, even from so called religious people.

    4. patuxant November 14, 2013

      LBG/ Hooray! Am a Catholic and find her diatribe offense. You know, when it comes to abortion, my take on it is if the fetus cannot live on its own outside the host (mother) it is not a person. Am sick of these self-righteous idiots who want to legislate “their morality” on others.

    5. jerryswiatek November 15, 2013

      As a fallin away this Pope makes me think about Mass sometime soon.

  4. Lynda Groom November 13, 2013

    Well of course the beliefs of the new Pope confuse poor old Sarah. His is the message of peace and inclusion..her’s not so much. Lord that woman is dumb.

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    1. Debbie Lou Young November 14, 2013

      Yes, she is! I guess she’s still looking out her window at Russia! LOL!

      1. foundingprinciples November 14, 2013

        She never said that.

        1. CPPray November 14, 2013

          Kind of like reaping what one sows, like saying things that aren’t true. Its ok when she says things that didn’t happen or weren’t true about others ….

          1. foundingprinciples November 14, 2013

            Never said that she could see Russia from anywhere from her house or property. Why do Liberals make up stuff?

          2. sealbeams November 14, 2013

            You are full of it. I listened and watched her say it.

          3. George D November 14, 2013

            But did you listen from your front porch or back porch?

          4. sealbeams November 15, 2013

            If I remember correctly. the first time I heard this I was in my car. A car without a porch. Later watched her say it on TV in my house. House without a porch. It sounded the same both times.

          5. CPPray November 14, 2013

            Why does SHE make so many things up?

          6. George D November 14, 2013

            When truth is inconvenient….Tealiban lie!

          7. Lynda Groom November 14, 2013

            That was snark. A joke is still just a joke, don’t take it so seriously.

          8. highpckts November 14, 2013

            Why do you?

          9. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            So, you actually believe that Left-winger Hate-Myth.

          10. patuxant November 14, 2013

            Guess you watch Fox for all your information….go figure.

          11. foundingprinciples November 15, 2013

            Well, I do not get American TV, but when I get a chance, I do watch FOX News, “Fair and Balanced,” unlike MSNBC. Liberals fear FOX. That is the source of Leftist hatred of it.

          12. patuxant November 15, 2013

            Guess you don’t realize that established law since the early part of this century classifies corporations as persons and that they can actually lie as any normal citizen can. So when FOX is telling you their “TRUTH” they are in essence exercising their right to lie to you. Go check it out.

          13. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Oh, really?

            “[FOX] makes a habit of covering the big set pieces of America’s politics unusually well.”
            -Economist

            FOX, was the only network to expose Jesse Jackson’s “charities” as the shakedown operations that they were.

            FOX helped to uncover the corrupt UN’s $67 BILLION “Oil-for-Food” program in which Leftist UN officials took kickbacks.

            Etc.

          14. highpckts November 15, 2013

            Fair and Balanced???? ROFL!

          15. sealbeams November 17, 2013

            Fox news like MSNBC are no more entertainment programs. That’s why they call them shows. If you take any of them serious you should get help.

          16. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            I do notice differences in how words are used:

            Left-winger media: U.S. Forces

            FOX: Our troops.

            Liberal media: Militants

            FOX: Islamist terrorists, evildoers

            1996: Fox was in 17 million homes; CNN in 70 million
            2001: FOX was in 65 million homes! FOX had more total viewers than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED! LOL!

          17. highpckts November 17, 2013

            Huh! Go figure! Selective hearing and different interpretations of words used! You need meds!

        2. highpckts November 14, 2013

          Yeah, ok!

          1. patuxant November 15, 2013

            Founding is an idiot of the first degree.

        3. patuxant November 14, 2013

          She did say that you ostrich.

  5. Budjob November 14, 2013

    I am not Catholic and was raised a Presbyterian.However,Pope Francis is a very wise and a very great man! This man has compassion and understanding far beyond anything that stupid bitch Sarah can comprehend!!

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  6. Annemb November 14, 2013

    Picky, picky, Sarah Palin! Since when and by whose authority were you elected pope and crowned queen of the universe? Oh yes … you elected yourself pope by a majority of 1 and crowned yourself by the same “majority.”

    You forget, Sarah, that our Founders / Framers were liberals too. If not you wouldn’t have the freedom to speak as you do.

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    1. foundingprinciples November 14, 2013

      {our Founders / Framers were liberals}

      They were CLASSICAL Liberals, not anything like today’s Liberals.

      1. highpckts November 14, 2013

        And the GOP isn’t anything like the Reagan years either!!! You are now extremists!!

        1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

          Typical of the Left: Imply that “in the past” Conservatives were more respectable or that Liberals related well to them.

          Total lie. The Left-wingers hated Goldwater and Buckley in the 1960’s and 1950’s respectively.

          1. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            You aren’t a conservative, so you may stop lying now. What you are is a person who believes that they should be able to force their wishes upon other people via big government.

          2. highpckts November 17, 2013

            You live in your own little world don’t you. Even the right wing media says Reagan wouldn’t fit in with todays party!

      2. patuxant November 14, 2013

        What the hell does that mean? Did you live then? Do you know squat jack about who actuallly wrote the Declaration? No, I didn’t think so!

        1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

          I see: According to YOUR “logic,” unless one actually lived during the time events happened, one is not capable of understanding them.

          How Liberally convenient.

          1. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            Yes, ‘liberally convenient’ — like the founders of America, their ideas and the liberal new form of government they created.

          2. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Today’s Left-wingerism has nothing in common with the Founders, of course. Look at the Liberal idiocy of “a living document” compared to the Conservative view of “original understanding.”

            Which adheres more to the Founders’ principles? (Rhetorical question that is so obvious that a 4th-grader would know immediately.)

          3. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            As I said before, you are a Constitutional charlatan. You don’t understand the very basic premise of the US Constitution, so how would your ever understand the particulars?

            The Framers of the US Constitution fully expected that it would change over time. If ever there was an ‘original understanding’ this is it. They included a mechanism for that very thing.

            But once again, it’s not just that you don’t understand this very simple fact. The real issue here is that you don’t like it, you want it to go away, you don’t want it to BE. So you lie about it. This is your glaring character defect. Arguments with merit don’t need to be supported with lies.

            You aren’t a conservative. You are an intellectually dishonest charlatan. Tea Bigots don’t care about taxes, and they don’t care about jobs. They don’t care about limiting the size of government. They don’t care about America or Americans. Tea Bigots only care about forcing their will upon others, which includes bigoted hate — the Tea Party common denominator.

      3. WhutHeSaid November 14, 2013

        Out spewing your ridiculous lies again?

        Liberalism is liberalism. America was founded on liberal ideas with liberal goals in mind. The result was a liberal new form of government.

        You lying knuckle-draggers have nothing in common with liberals of ANY kind. You should change you moniker to ‘LyingPrinciples’ or ‘BigotBabble’, otherwise it’s false advertising.

    2. George D November 14, 2013

      She is a rebel! Yup a rebel! She is a Yodosoda Confederate….locked and loaded to defend her legacy as a white supremacist beauty queen. Just because she never won anything before does not mean that she cannot be the queen of the trailer park or KKK Tealiban!

      1. Annemb November 14, 2013

        Great post!

        Thanks.

    3. patuxant November 15, 2013

      Amen! This woman needs to have a plug in her mouth. She talks BS and trash and makes no sense. Ignore the bitch!

      1. Annemb November 15, 2013

        Very well articulated post!

  7. FT66 November 14, 2013

    Does anyone know the IQ of Sarah Palin? How can anyone attack those like the Caring Pope Francis who is working so hard to help the poor. Sarah Palin without any job at the moment, could have fallen in that category. She is selling to people rubbish/garbage which she calls books in order to avoid to be in that particular group. What does she think these poor have to sell and be like her?

    Reply
    1. foundingprinciples November 14, 2013

      Anything to say about this from the NY Times?

      {Gay rights groups were far from calm in their reaction to Francis, with one organization, the Argentine Federation of Lesbians, Gays, Bisexuals and Transsexuals, pointing out that he had described a plan to legalize same-sex marriageas a “plan of the devil.”}

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/15/world/americas/argentines-divide-over-selection-of-pope-francis.html?_r=0

    2. Joe Derringer November 14, 2013

      Hey, I listened to the video twice. Sarah Palin did not say that she distrusted the Pope. She said she distrusted the liberal media who made statements that made the Pope sound liberal. She then said she would have to do her own investigation to find the truth. This is simply more propaganda from a liberal writer. They attack her all the time because they fear her. She was an incredible governor in Alaska. She fired corrupt democrats and republicans. She balanced the budget. She solved problems. Unlike our president who has created a pile of problems, and made the problems we had much worse. Our debt is still soaring. Joblessness is horrific. Freedom is being replaced by socialism right under our noses. Palin speaks the truth and gets things done. You suckers for liberal propaganda need to wake up. It has been said that the most effective smear campaign in history was that of the democrats against Palin. People like you are easily fooled by propaganda.

  8. Roger DeBeers November 14, 2013

    If you are pro-life, you should be pro-life after the birth too.

    Reply
    1. Annemb November 14, 2013

      Amen to your words.

  9. HUNTERVIC November 14, 2013

    Remember

    A wise person speaks because they have something to say while a fool speaks because they have to say something. Oh, hello Sarah….

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    1. Joe Derringer November 14, 2013

      Hey, I listened to the video twice. Sarah Palin did not say that she distrusted the Pope. She said she distrusted the liberal media who made statements that made the Pope sound liberal. She then said she would have to do her own investigation to find the truth. This is simply more propaganda from a liberal writer. They attack her all the time because they fear her. She was an incredible governor in Alaska. She fired corrupt democrats and republicans. She balanced the budget. She solved problems. Unlike our president who has created a pile of problems, and made the problems we had much worse. Our debt is still soaring. Joblessness is horrific. Freedom is being replaced by socialism right under our noses. Palin speaks the truth and gets things done. You suckers for liberal propaganda need to wake up.

      1. patuxant November 14, 2013

        Sucker! You falling for her spin salads? Liberal Media? What about the Tea Media? Give the rest of us a break from you idiotic rants. Incredible Gov. who quit after two years? Who are you? Her husband in disguise?

  10. flipped54 November 14, 2013

    The Pope is neither liberal or conservative….he is “pro-Christian”, experienced and much wiser than Palin, even though he is part of Babylon the Great. Sarah Palin continues to spew garbled messages that make no sense and she is primarily “pro-Sarah Palin”. Her message, if you can call it that, adheres to extreme right wing conspiracy theorists who buy a roll of Reynolds Wrap every week.

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    1. foundingprinciples November 14, 2013

      Really.

      This is from the NY Times:

      “criticism of him for his hard-line conservative views on a range of issues, including gay rights and artistic expression.”

      http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/15/world/americas/argentines-divide-over-selection-of-pope-francis.html?_r=0

      1. flipped54 November 14, 2013

        I stand by my comment….

        1. Lynda Groom November 14, 2013

          You are correct. The Pope’s beliefs should be understood as a reflection of his character and his religion. They should not be dismissed so easily as political, as the half term governor from Alaska indicates.

      2. patuxant November 14, 2013

        Who gives a crap what the Times says?

      3. patuxant November 15, 2013

        Said it before: who gives a crap what the Times says????

        1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

          Only tens of millions of people in America and many countries abroad.

    2. Annemb November 14, 2013

      Amen to every word of your wonderful post! You hit the nail exactly on its head – where it very well should be!

      Yes, Jesus didn’t charge anyone for what he did for others. He condemned and spoke out against the status quo and hypocrites … in fact hypocrites condemned themselves. Jesus was for the poor and the disenfranchised. Jesus was inclusive just as Pope Francis is inclusive. Jesus disconnected himself from all politics to bring about the reign of God on earth.

      Blessings – and thanks.

      1. Mark Forsyth November 14, 2013

        You tell ’em Anne.

        1. Annemb November 14, 2013

          🙂

  11. williamhickem November 14, 2013

    why would you and other media people waste your reader time with what Shara says. we the people have no use for people like her. we waste lots of time listen to people going no where

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    1. foundingprinciples November 14, 2013

      Going “nowhere?” Speaking at national conventions, a governor of a state, making millions in book sale is…. “going nowhere?”

      1. sealbeams November 14, 2013

        If I remember correctly, she quit the Gov. job. Anybody that reads her book or books should do a reality check. The great Senator from Arizona should be impeached for giving her a platform.

      2. linda richardson November 14, 2013

        Going to the bank which is the whole goal…do you think she bailed on Alaska for the good of Alaska or to capitalize monetarily for herself?

        1. patuxant November 15, 2013

          She loves the kill and she uses old catch phrases to send her “messages” . She is a joke and certainly not anywhere close to the screen as an intellectual. She’s a dumb ass loud mouth self-serving bitch.

      3. Mark Forsyth November 14, 2013

        and making her fortune off of ignorant fools and suckers,and apparently by your posts,there is one of them born every minute.No wonder she’s made millions.

      4. patuxant November 15, 2013

        Speaking at conventions? What a joke! Gov of a State who quit after 2 yrs? Millions in book sales due to ignorant buyers who suck up her BS? What the F are you? An idiot or someone who wants to get in her pants?

        1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

          It is irrational to not realize the extraordinary ability of someone who actually became a governor – of any state. At any one time in our country, there are only 50 people out of OVER 300 MILLION who have done that!

          1. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            Oh? Let’s see you apply that same logic to an American President — Barack Obama. Now is the time for you to express your recognition of his even more extraordinary abilities, since at any one time there is only ONE of 317 million who has done that.

            Now you’ve painted yourself into a corner. The way I see it, you now have the following choices:

            1. Ignore the point, since it makes you look like an incompetent liar.
            2. Try to lie your way out of it, thereby proving yourself both a liar AND a fool.
            3. Admit Obama’s abilities despite your bigoted hate.

            I wonder what choice you will make? My bet is that you will do what you do best — lie.

          2. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Yes, it is quite an accomplishment to become a president.

            Now, please recognize the extraordinary achievement of Governor Sarah Palin.

            Thank you.

          3. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            I never claimed that Sarah Palin didn’t have some significant accomplishments. I also fully respect her decision to give birth to a child that had birth defects that will affect the child’s entire life. That was her decision to make, and I’m happy to leave that very personal decision to her.

            You, on the other hand, believe that you are somehow qualified to force your will upon others. You aren’t, of course, but your character defect(s) prevent you from understanding that very simple fact — partially. I say partially because you obviously know that your arguments are vile and unacceptable to others, otherwise you wouldn’t need to lie about them.

          4. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            {You, on the other hand, believe that you are somehow qualified to force your will upon others. }

            By making a “choice” (of death), the parent is forcing her will on the unborn child – to die.

          5. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            Yes, and Sarah’s choice forced her child to live with a lifelong handicap. But as the child’s mother that was her choice and her choice alone to make. She now must deal with the consequences of her decision, and I respect that it was the correct decision for her and her child.

            A fetus in a woman’s womb is quite literally a part of her body until the point that the fetus becomes viable, or capable of living outside of the mother’s body. Also, the very act of carrying a child to term and delivering it into this world has taken the life of millions of women. So any decision with respect to pregnancy and childbirth is a very personal affair.

            You, on the other hand, are not threatened by a woman’s pregnancy in any way. You are also not personally connected to the event at all, and you have no reason to agonize over giving birth to a child that resulted from rape, a child that will suffer from some type of disease during it’s life, or a child that may cause your own death. This fact makes you a sordid busybody who tries to force his wishes on both the mother and the child, with none of the risks, responsibilities, or pain.

            Intelligent people understand this even if they personally oppose abortion. Stupid people don’t give it much thought. Then there are the vile, despicable and unsavory low-lives who just want their way and don’t care how their wishes impact others or conflict with the other person’s wishes. Which category would you say you are in?

          6. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

            Most unborn baby killings are done for convenience, not from rapes and incest. Stop the propaganda. People need to be responsible. They get pregnant from a series of conscious choices.

          7. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

            Once again you prove that a) you don’t believe your own arguments, b) that you favor big, intrusive government, and c) that you are a liar.

            You have absolutely no idea why any given woman decides to have an abortion. Women are generally unwilling to discuss such a personal decision, and I don’t believe that you own a crystal ball. Also, not all pregnancies are the result of conscious choices. You are lying when you say that most abortions are acts born out of convenience.

            It all boils down to the type of person that you are. If you are vile, despicable and arrogant enough to believe that your wishes are more important than the personal lives and health of others — then you will support big government intrusion into their lives without remorse. Equally vile would be having the government force abortion upon pregnant women, so I suspect that you would heartily approve of China’s long-enforced one child policy. It’s the same type of thing you advocate.

    2. Annemb November 14, 2013

      You reminded me of a saying – Don’t argue with a fool; you are a bigger fool if you argue with a fool.

      1. Mark Forsyth November 14, 2013

        Hi Anne, I cant put it down verbatim but Mark Twain said something like this,”Never argue with a fool- they will wear you out and beat you with experience”

        1. Annemb November 14, 2013

          Hi Mark,

          I love it! Much truth in the words.

  12. Moshulu November 14, 2013

    “He’s had some statements that to me sound kind of liberal, has taken me aback, has kind of surprised me. There again, unless I really dig deep into what his messaging is, and do my own homework, I’m not going to just trust what I hear in the media,” Palin said.”

    Sarah Palin, the epitome of a HYPOCRITE!!!!!

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    1. Joe Derringer November 14, 2013

      Hey, I listened to the video twice. Sarah Palin did not say that she distrusted the Pope. She said she distrusted the liberal media who made statements that made the Pope sound liberal. She then said she would have to do her own investigation to find the truth. This is simply more propaganda from a liberal writer. They attack her all the time because they fear her. She was an incredible governor in Alaska. She fired corrupt democrats and republicans. She balanced the budget. She solved problems. Unlike our president who has created a pile of problems, and made the problems we had much worse. Our debt is still soaring. Joblessness is horrific. Freedom is being replaced by socialism right under our noses. Palin speaks the truth and gets things done. You suckers for liberal propaganda need to wake up

      1. moderationpreferred November 14, 2013

        You are the one sucking up propaganda. Apparently anything that doesn’t agree with your views has to be ‘liberal’, and she was NOT an incredible governor, she was a quitter who did not do the job she was elected to do. She’s dumb and makes no effort to educate herself before opening her mouth. You are one of those that needs to wake up and fast reality but then reality doesn’t fit with your narrow world view. Truth and Palin, what a laugh. She wouldn’t know truth if it got up and bit her on the a*s. It is not just liberal who find her a laughingstock.

      2. patuxant November 14, 2013

        Yea, Palin stood at the Vet’s Memorial during the shutdown and flapped her gums. Where is she now that thousands upon thousands of Vets will lose their food stamps, huh?

  13. ILoveTaterNuts November 14, 2013

    Palin launched her book tour in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, saying she wanted to visit the place where Jesus was born.

    Reply
    1. sealbeams November 14, 2013

      Hard to make this stuff up. LOL Love it

    2. highpckts November 14, 2013

      ROFL!!

    3. patuxant November 14, 2013

      ALMAO! What an f**king idiot! Did she actually say this?????

  14. George D November 14, 2013

    Palin’s daughter who has a child out of wedlock gets to dance on TV gather up huge sums of money and pay cash for a house in Arizona. Why shame on the working man’s daughter who cannot do the same. Never mind the corruption and pay offs to these plutocrats…..they have appointed themselves as holier than the most holy….more just than Christ. Wonder if she can see the Vatican from her back porch?

    Reply
    1. patuxant November 15, 2013

      Most undoubtedly. She knows zero about the Catholic church so why in the hell is the media even bothering to give her air time?

  15. 788eddie November 14, 2013

    “He’s had some statements that to me sound kind of liberal…”

    Well, obviously Sarah Palin believes in GOD, but it is just as obviously does not believe in Jesus Christ (who would be characterized by “political animals” today as having very liberal ideas (especially regarding government, caring for the poor, etc.)

    Pray for Sarah.

    Reply
    1. patuxant November 15, 2013

      No prayers for the witch!

  16. Marilyn Wise November 14, 2013

    I must assume that Jesus Christ would be far too liberal for Sarah and her self righteous “born again” views.

    Reply
    1. patuxant November 15, 2013

      Can you even believe the arrogance and high and mighty attitude of this non-Catholic? Burn in hell, Sarah!

  17. rockcut November 14, 2013

    I am 100% certain that Pope Francis does not need the advice of Sara Palin. But, it did make me pause and wonder…………If Sara Palin can see Rome from her backyard.

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  18. Lee Alan Bartholomew November 14, 2013

    If she had any brains (and wasn’t heavily being used by men) she’d know Liberals don’t like the pope.and as he was possibly involved with terrorists not sure where she thinks this would help.. (right wing terrorists.) that killed people. ie The Pope is basically a Conservative when the word bothered to mean something. Caring about people. Nowadays there is no such thing. Except maybe the Conservadems. I’m not sure what the Tea Party is but they aren’t Conservative…. Tea Party is pure liberal in any sense of the word. Conservatives don’t want change. Tea Party wants massive change.

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    1. patuxant November 14, 2013

      TPers are seditionists. They don’t believe in any of the freedoms the founding documents outline, they just want to control everybody who disagrees with them.

  19. Pamby50 November 14, 2013

    We know Sarah Palin doesn’t read a bible. If she did, she would remember Matthew 25. Whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do to me. That is who Pope Francis reminds me of. Feed the poor, care for the sick and the elderly. He is just a simple man.

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  20. Lee Alan Bartholomew November 14, 2013

    only religion who has a right to distrust Catholics is Lutherans. I am one. However this pope he didn’t want the job. and is a simple man. Lutherans however don’t go out and say the pope is Liberal. So Sarah is going out on her own here. Trying to compare Sinead O Conner and Tori Amos and Madonna to Sarah Palin good luck.

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  21. patuxant November 14, 2013

    Excuse ME! Last I heard Palin was not a Catholic so what on earth is she rambling on about? Has she run out of material? She needs to shut the hell up!

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  22. Lovefacts November 14, 2013

    First, Palin isn’t Catholic. Second, she’s demonstrated a complete lack of knowledge of the teaching of Christianity and Catholicism in particular and Judaism from which all Christianity springs. And while she claims to be a Christian, she has to date shown a total lack of understanding of Christ’s message–take care of the poor, widows, and orphans.

    And now when for the first time in decades the Catholic Church has a leader in Pope Francis who is preaching this message, along with one of tolerance, the reactionaries like Palin don’t know how to respond. But then why should she and her followers? Over the years, they’ve corrupted the message of taking care of your neighbor into taking care of number one, and all those who don’t share their beliefs are heretics–politically, socially, and religiously.

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    1. jointerjohn November 14, 2013

      You I believe have figured out what is really going on here. Pope Francis scares the crap out of the Palin-type Evangelicals because he shines true Christian light on their mean-spirited and selfish version, polluted by greed. If this Pope prevails in bringing a new era to Christianity, one nearer to it’s founder’s words, Palin’s version of Christianity will find it’s church pews pretty empty. That means their collection plates will also be empty, and therefore their campaign funds as well. Wait and watch how many of the Christian right-wingers of America start denouncing him if he continues down this path. They will declare him the Anti-Christ. And by the way, that concern about collection plates I mentioned? That’s the real reason the Pope is doing what he is doing as well.

  23. Mark Forsyth November 14, 2013

    A pimple on a fleas ass has more significance than Sarah Palin’s statements.The media should ignore her and the rest of the world should follow suit.Shallow thinkers are incapable of deep digging and Sarah couldn’t dig her way out of a bowl of government paid for oatmeal.
    The 32% of Catholics who disagree with the new Pontiff will continue to receive the sacraments without interference.

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  24. ThomasBonsell November 14, 2013

    Perhaps Sarah should read the Bible she thinks she loves. If she did she would find that Jesus Christ chap said things that didn’t “sound kind of liberal,” he said things that were certainly liberal.

    Maybe she hasn’t worked her way up to Matthew 25 in which he espoused the liberal line all liberal governments try to implement.

    It’s hard to find anything he said that would justify Palin’s politics; especially where he told his followers to pay their taxes.

    Maybe she’s confused and is really following the Antichrist but can’t figure it out.

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  25. jerryswiatek November 15, 2013

    Too much starin over to Russia!

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    1. foundingprinciples November 17, 2013

      You actually bought into that Left-winger myth.

      1. WhutHeSaid November 17, 2013

        It’s always been a joke, and a fully believable one given Palin’s endless parade of truly ignorant quips. But I’m afraid the biggest joke of all — Sarah herself — is on you Tea Bigots. If a twit like Palin is an acceptable leader to you people then it speaks volumes about your sanity (or lack thereof).

  26. kanawah November 15, 2013

    Caribou Barbie strikes again.
    Enough of her babble already.

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  27. nelson g. November 15, 2013

    this woman belongs in alaska way out in the woods, nelson g.

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  28. bestofandy November 15, 2013

    She definitely sounds like someone who failed grade school science. If you can look at Alaska mountains and say that god created them, then you have to be very confused or incredibly stupid.

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  29. catnip2430 November 16, 2013

    Calls the Pope a liberal, just wait till she meets Jesus Christ. If she gets there that is.

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