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Sunday, September 25, 2016

When a gaggle of local Tea Party leaders came before the House Ways and Means Committee, complaining that their organizations had been unfairly and unconstitutionally “targeted by the Internal Revenue Service for their personal beliefs,” the reception by the Republicans who control the committee was predictably credulous. Once more the June 4 hearings provided Tea Party groups an opportunity to play the victim and listen to politicians praise their courage and patriotism.

But a closer examination of these particular Tea Party outfits by the  Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights found copious evidence of political activity that might well have disqualified their requests for 501(c)(4) non-profit status – notably the San Fernando Valley Patriots, the Wetumpka Tea Party, and the Laurens County Tea Party.

In weepy tones, Karen Kenney, the founder of the San Fernando Valley Patriots (SFVP), told the committee of her concern “about the jackboot of tyranny upon the field of our Founding documents. To whisper the letters I-R-S strikes a shrill note on Main St., USA, but when this behemoth tramples upon America’s grassroots, few hear the snapping sounds.”

Kenney’s emotional testimony was long on the language of patriotism, but short on the facts of the case. Her testimony, like the entire hearing, ignored the dubious political conduct engaged in by her group, which appeared to have trampled all over IRS non-profit regulations.

Consider the group’s Meetup site, run by Kenney, which bluntly states: “Our aim is to promote — by political action or events — the core Constitutional and conservative values that built America [emphasis added].”

Indeed, Kenney and the San Fernando Valley Patriots actively engaged in partisan political campaigning. This year, they organized rallies for the only Republican in the Los Angeles mayoral race.  Listed as the organizer and event host, Kenney wrote, “We have a total of 15 campaign or city issues posters, plus some U.S. flags to draw attention to Kevin James’ campaign for Mayor of Los Angeles. Our silent ‘rally’ with smiling patriots is a fun way to get boots on the ground for a true fiscal-conservative and our friend, Kevin.”

The San Fernando group also appears to have openly endorsed other candidates. Its website published a list of endorsed candidates and ballot measures for the Los Angeles County election. The post clearly states that the list names the candidates that “we are recommending.” In another post, the group tried to pass the endorsement list off as a “Voter Guide,” but it only contains a list of candidates the group had approved. On another page, Kenney posts her own “SFVP Selected Personal Choices (Karen Kenney, coordinator, SFV Patriots)” for the election, listing the candidates she endorsed for mayor, city attorney, and board of trustees.

Still another SFVP webpage features a declaration by Lydia Gutierrez: “I have looked over the list of candidates and I am making the following recommendations. Seat 2: John C. Burke. Seat 4: Jozef Essavi. Seat 6: Tom Oliver.  After you have marked these three candidates on your ballot, please forward these recommendations email with 10 voters you know who care about our young people’s future.”

Nor did the SFVP neglect national and statewide political contests. In October, 2012, the group organized a get-out-the-vote flash mob in front of the local headquarters for GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney and GOP state senate candidate Todd Zink. The group also hosted a brainstorming session in October, 2011 “on local and state politics with a GOP insider!”

SFVP is an affiliate of the national faction known as the Tea Party Patriots, an outfit with its own history of questionable political involvement.

Such activities clearly represent the “indications of significant political campaign intervention” highlighted by the May 14 report of the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration  – namely, indications that would tend to disqualify a group from obtaining IRS non-profit status. Yet none of these activities were discussed during the hearing supposedly investigating the tax-exemption controversy.

Becky Gerritson of the Alabama-based Wetumpka Tea Party did her best to heighten the melodrama of the hearings. Gerritson emphasized her Tea Party entitlement, making a federal tax exemption sound like a birthright for her and her group. “I am not here today as a serf or a vassal. I am not begging my lords for mercy,” she told the committee. “I am a born-free American woman – wife, mother and citizen – and I’m telling my government that you have forgotten your place.”

But the Wetumpka Tea Party’s political activism was well-documented prior to the hearing, notably in a New York Times article by Nicholas Confessore and Michael Luo.  Confessore and Luo reported that the Wetumpka Tea Party “organized a day of training for its members and other Tea Party activists across the region in the run-up to the 2012 election. The training was held under the auspices of the Adopt-a-State program, a nationwide effort that encouraged Tea Party groups in safely red or blue states to support Tea Party groups in battleground states working to get out the vote for Republicans.” Yet nobody on the House committee asked  Gerritson about the political activities of her group.

Dianne Belsom, president of the South Carolina-based Laurens County Tea Party, testified about some of the questions posed to her group by the IRS concerning their request for tax exempt status. Of the nine questions she mentioned, all indicated that the agency’s officials were trying to determine how deeply her group had engaged in significant political interventions. She was asked to describe “how much time/resources are devoted to vetting candidates,” and to specify “amounts expended in support of any candidate for federal, state, or local public office.” Other supposedly “invasive” items requested by the IRS included asking for the group’s articles of incorporation.

  • FredAppell

    The real scandal is only that the IRS allowed itself to become intimidated by a bunch of backwoods miscreants who don’t know the law and don’t care. They’re treasonous scumbags and must be dealt with accordingly.

    • lana ward

      You f**king America hating communist bi**h!!!!!

      • FredAppell

        Geez Lana, why did you go and say those nasty things to me, that really hurt my feelings. I thought we were such good pals and you go and stomp on my hearty that way. Now what am I supposed to do?

        • lana ward

          Did you know your black terrorist butt buddies, OHitler and OHolder are going to make it a crime if you say anything that muslims deem offensive on the internet???? How is that for free speech commie????

          • disqus_ivSI3ByGmh

            Lana, did you forget to take your lithium yesterday?

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Lana is beyond help…poor dear…let us just pray for her soul as she will clearly end up in hell with Paul Ryan, Mitt Robme and the rest of those idiots…she does put a smile on my face though…I must admit ~ stupidity is funny in a way…

          • plc97477

            It’s a little like seeing someone slip and fall, or get a pie in the face.

          • DurdyDawg

            Yes, funny like the itch in your pants from the wrong sex partner.

          • lana ward

            It’s true. OHitler is going to take away our free speech. It is going to be a crime if you post anything on the internet that muslims deem offensive. But it’s not a crime to offend Christians. I thought dems know more than us who watch Fox News. You stay with your MSM. You know nothing LOL!!!!

          • A_Schick

            You’ve said some pretty un-Christian things here so far, so I don’t see what your issue is?

          • awakenaustin

            I hear that after he ends free speech, takes our guns and imposes Sharia law, he is going to end the supply of oxygen in the air in the U.S.A. going to Christian homes and then only Muslims will be able to breath. Read it on the Patriotic Red States Tea Party blog Oddjobs, Nutjobs and Wierdoes. Of course, as usual the MSM refused to carry it.

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Awake – I also heard that Obama has a “weather weapon” that he revs up from time to time to send disastrous hurricanes, tornadoes and the like wherever he sees fit…..mostly those red states that didn’t vote for him….LOL

          • almoore

            That would explain why disasters tend to hit the bible belt, that, or God is pretty pissed off at those hypocrites.

          • Careful, lana does not understand irony, much less sarcasm. She probably will get confused and think she heard that on Faux Noise.

          • plc97477

            You may have just started the latest conspiracy.

          • This is excellent sarcasm! It made me laugh. However, there are some very uneducated people who read this site, they will believe your post and spread it across the Internet as “fact”. We must be very careful with our humor! LOL still.

          • IF you had any common sense at all, you would know we are not worried. It is racists like you that are going out of your way to anger just about everyone that is not a clone of yourselves. If someone needed to have their rights suspended, you would make an excellent first candidate.

          • Dana Es

            Lana, PLEASE try to use your head. If nothing else, can’t you see the impossibility of trying to outlaw anything on the Internet just because it’s offensive to any particular group? Heck, if that was actually doable, that could possibly mean an end to the “wisdom” you and Canister so generously bestow upon us.

          • DurdyDawg

            And like they say, if it’s on the internet it’s gotta be true, right yawna?

          • lana ward

            OHitler is trying right now to make it a Federal crime to offend muslims on the internet. US Attorney Bill Killian and Special FBI Agent Kenneth Moore will make a special trip to Tennesse to hold a public meeting sponsored by American Muslim Advisory Council to educate people on the civil rights of muslims. There is a video of Eric Holder talking of this too. And the video of OHitler before the UN General Assembly saying, the future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. So laugh while you can, our free speech is going to be taken away

          • stcroixcarp

            I understand that taking your meds regularly and cognitive therapy can help with your paranoia. Taking a few deep breaths and thinking for a few seconds before you hit the keyboard can greatly reduce the meanness and the frequency of incoherent posts.

          • lana ward

            Kiss your free speech goodbye.

          • almoore

            “there ought to be limits to freedom,”

          • lana ward

            Communist

          • almoore

            I was quoting dubya.

          • Lynda Groom

            That was a nice little jab you got in there. Too bad it was too subtle for Lana to grasp.

          • almoore

            It was too easy.

          • BDC_57

            you just confused her

          • ralphkr

            All to easy to confuse Alana, just by using facts. Like most conservatives, Alana, only accepts the nearly non-existent facts that support her dream visions and rejects all other facts as lies.

          • idamag

            She belongs to a white supremist group.

          • plc97477

            How can you tell?

          • morbius777

            Fascist!

          • Fern Woodfork

            Cat Hoarder!!

          • lana ward

            Hey, you never did tell me the names of those 7 other states we have

          • Fern Woodfork

            Hey You Never Clean That Nasty House Of Yours!!!!

          • roguerunners

            You’ve got “Wana” pegged Fern. All she can do is try to change the subject when she should be cleaning up the filth that surrounds her.

          • Fern Woodfork

            You Got That Right My Friend!! LOL 🙂 Hey lana ward I Keep A Clean House BITCH!! You Need To Clean That Rat Den You Live In With 333Cat Shitting And Pissing All Over The Place!! You Can’t Eat And Drink It All!! Oh By The Way President Obama Said Pucker Up And KISS HIS ASS!!!!

          • roguerunners

            🙂

          • idamag

            surrounds and fills her.

          • Canistercook

            There is! We are taxed to death in California by a huge left wing controlling group headed up by Brown and and his California Teachers union and other government unions.

          • Upset, walk west into the Pacific. Few will notice and on one will care after your gone. . . .

          • Canistercook

            Would if I could reach Canada or Australia that both have. Reasonable governments
            Sent from my iPad

          • plc97477

            Just a short swim.

          • Lynda Groom

            Nonsense. The voters cast their ballots and decided that minority rule in our legislature was doing too much harm to the state and holding back everything. California has reversed course and, in part, thanks to the voters wishing to pay a little more in tax to correct problems.

          • ralphkr

            The real boost in taxes, Canistercook, was instituted by Reagan. When he was governor I was a wage slave in California and my income went up by $300 (because we are not based in California) and my California Income Tax went up $500. That same year, one of my California uncles used some of the profit he made to buy a Bentley and he paid no California Income Tax because he was not a wage slave and knew all the loopholes.

          • morbius777

            I’ll let you kiss something else.

          • lana ward

            OHitler will do that, ask Reggie Love!!!!

          • That is why we keep replying to you, lana. You really aren’t worth the spit to form words to speak, but we know we must reply because you WILL destroy free speech if we allow you to.

          • LotusJoan

            Could not have said it better. Would have had to start with OMG!

            It is my personal belief that vitriol at this level is caustic to one’s system. Hate like this is a poison that can attack
            your health and your very soul.

          • idamag

            I wonder if when bad things start happening to her, if she will realize it is the Karma she,herself, generated?

          • plc97477

            In that case lana has to be the sickest person in the world and I don’t just mean mentally.

          • idamag

            If she isn’t, she will be.

          • Decon is more effective and cheaper.

          • FredAppell

            Who is this commie character you keep referring me to? You say some of the most hateful things I have ever heard. How am I supposed to get through the day when you refuse to communicate with me? I live for you Lana, you’re my everything,
            your’e the reason I get up in the morning, the reason why I try so hard to be a good boy. Please don’t end it this way, we meant so much to one another. I’ll change, I promise.

          • lana ward

            : ). Cute!

          • FredAppell

            Thanks bestie, I’m gonna get us matching outfits so that everyone will know that we’re friends to the end. I have to go work now, you have good day. Hugs.

          • dtgraham

            I don’t like weddings but this one I want to go to.

          • FredAppell

            Dude, depending on what she looks like, I don’t even know if i’m going. But you’re invited just in case. By the way, here’s a little heads up for you, the reception is BYOB, she’s a T/P’er and they don’t like to pay for anything.

          • idamag

            Good one,

          • FredAppell

            True though!

          • What is a commie, anyway? Really, without grabbing a textbook, oops, they’re off limits to your lot.

          • almoore

            Does LeVert know that you talk about him like that?

          • almoore

            Does LeVert know that you talk about him like that?

          • Hard2findu

            Poor Lana, you must be so very proud of your tooth, please do the world a favor and have your self sterilized, your very presents has infected the gene pool quite enough.

          • lana ward

            Take that picture down you ugly thing, poo

          • Lana, you do one thing, and one thing only, that is very positive. By posting your nonsense you keep us united. We do hate you, of course, your bigotry and block-headed idiocy, but you keep us laughing. You entertain us and keep the conversations interesting. You help us to interact and keep our minds sharp tearing down your stupidity. We should come up with an award for all your useful public service to the blogs!

          • lana ward

            You guys entertain me. So many in one spot that are brainwashed. I post something and get 50 replies Like ants coming out of the woodwork : )

          • Guest

            Well here’s my contribution to her.

          • DurdyDawg

            Here’s my award contribution..

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            do you think she even notices that all she gets is thumbs down…? I pray daily that she does not breed….

          • BDC_57

            she has already as and collected welfare for it.

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            BDC – I am beginning to think that she’s having us all on….no one can be that ignorant….

          • This is where we need to be very alert. I’d like to believe that no one can be that ignorant, however, I’ve met some in person. We all have an ignorant relative or in-law. That is why we need to be educated, and informed. We must continue to push for education for all – early childhood, Head Start, kindergarten, effective elementary, middle & high school including civics, history, science, and critical thinking.

          • idamag

            She already has. She got pregnant in high school and had to drop out.

          • morbius777

            Have you considered secession??? We won’t stop you this time.

          • Or is it decession? Maybe, I am confusing that with de-evolution.

          • plc97477

            We will even help her with anything she needs. Obviously we can’t help her with intelligence but anything else.

          • Landsende

            Lana,
            I just spent 20 minutes researching your comment about it being a crime to post anything offensive on the Internet against Muslims and could not find any verification of your allegation. If that were the case I wouldn’t be receiving hate filled emails against Muslims every day, which I promptly delete, and the people sending them would be in jail according to you. Please state where you obtained your allegation so we can judge whether its fact or fiction.

          • almoore

            Yes, please cite your sources lana. The voices in your head don’t count.

          • lana ward

            I’ve heard it on Fox News, at the site Pat Dollard.com and at the site Breitbart.com It hasn’t happened yet, it’s in the works

          • morbius777

            I heard it on Fullofshit.com

          • lana ward

            We’ll see who’s right, won’t we , so for now—f**k you!!!

          • “WE” don’t need to see who’s right. We already know you’ve gone round the bend.

          • plc97477

            Yes, we will but we don’t expect you to apologize.

          • lana ward

            I don’t expect you to apologize

          • idamag

            Isn’t that another name for fox news?

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            …WOW! ~ you really are an id jit…seriously Lana….please tell me you don’t breed

          • lana ward

            I see, you were fighting along side Jane Fonda and the Vietnamese

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            damn – I thought you’d gone down for your nap….

          • Landsende

            And of course those bastions of integrity only speak the truth even though they’ve admitted that they lie. If you want to be taken seriously you need to not just take the word of these so-called news media and do a little investigating of your own and find out if that’s really true and not just lies and innuendo spread by hate mongers. Even the main stream media has been known to get their facts wrong but they will at least own up to their mistakes unlike the sources you named. People can post anything they want on the Internet and will even send you a million dollars if only you deposit $10,000 in an overseas account as a show of good faith. These people are liars and thieves and most people have enough sense to realize it but there are always gullible people like you that believe everything they’re told and end up looking like fools.

          • lana ward

            How do you really know your sources are true. How do you know mine aren’t. Articles I have read on Pat Dollard have all turned out to be true. Look at the IRS, DOJ, DHS, we should be able to believe them but it’s far from it. They can’t be trusted at all!!!

          • So your saying, you have no truthful information at all.

          • Lisztman

            Ah, yes. Pat Dollard. A specimen of unrivaled journalistic integrity, if ever there was one.

          • lana ward

            Ah, yes. The MSM. A specimen of unrivaled journalistic integrity. They should all be hung as traitors

          • Dana Es

            Ah yes — all sites that have already proven their tendency to move away from the truth.

          • lana ward

            Like the MSM that moves away from the truth?

          • Dana Es

            Lana, I don’t understand your paranoia, your closed mind, or your anger, but part of me DOES feel a little sorry for you.

          • lana ward

            Your muslim leader is letting muslims take over the country. Feel sorry for yourself

          • Oddly, when I have pointed out to wing-nuts that they misquote Founding Fathers, for instance, many will agree, but state that their corrupted statements must be true anyway. My point is, lana knows she is lying, but because in her crazy-train of thought she wants it to be true, then it must be. Nothing we can do or say will change that. Of course, here I am, trying still.

          • plc97477

            It will never work but it is still fun.

          • idamag

            In case you haven’t noticed, this particular white supremist lies about everything.

          • Dana Es

            It’d frequently be a waste of time to try to research Lana’s fantasies. Her “facts” seem to only exist in her mind and that’s only semi-transparent.

          • plc97477

            Maybe the police have talked to her about her/his language. I think it would be a good idea myself.

          • roguerunners

            Don’t you have a load of laundry to do? Maybe clean out a cat box or two or three or four?

          • Fern Woodfork

            You Can Bet lana ward= anal draw Whole House Is Nasty!! What Started Off As 33 Cats Are Now No Doubt 333 Cats!! Yikes!! When Do He/She Have Time To Clean When He/She Trolling On All The Web Sites Every Day!!!

          • TZToronto

            I must have missed that one. Did it go through Congress? If it did and is now law, then the House must have voted in favor of it. Gee, why did all those Republican defenders of the Nation vote in favor of such a terrible law?

          • lana ward

            OHitler doesn’t go through Congress when he knows he can’t get his own way

          • TZToronto

            Not that you are correct about anything you’ve said, but Obama’s Executive orders stand at 153 (for 54 months). Bush II’s Executive Orders totalled 290 (over 96 months). At Obama’s rate, Bush II would have issued 272 Executive Orders in 96 months, so Obama is slightly behind Bush II’s rate. Were you complaining about Bush II’s Executive Orders when he issued them?

          • The scary part is, some of them seem to want to vote for just such a law. Except, it will outlaw any opposition to themselves. They just want to blame it on us. Same as always.

          • These days, the first thing I do is go down the list of posts and mark a negative next to anything lana says. I get a perverse enjoyment doing that. I guess I should not admit that. . . .

          • plc97477

            I think you are not alone.

        • Larry Coleman

          Think Lana is more akin to a South Carolina Confederate than a patriotic American, at least one of the John Adams, James Madison, Benjamin Franklin, Abe Lincoln ilk. It is obviously inappropriate for investigators to use more scrutiny regardless of it is gathering evidence of a highly probable law breaker, a terrorist, or those raiding Fort Sumter. Don’t think Lana will see otherwise.

          • FredAppell

            Read her second post to me, if that isn’t a rant of a racist homophobe I don’t know what is. Such is the price of ignorance I guess. The problem with Lana and like her, especially the ones out to derail President Obama is that they always need someone
            to vent their anger and frustrations on. They can’t thrive without having an enemy. It’s really very sad.

          • It is an unrecognized mental illness. Unfortunately, all too prevalent in human society and epidemic in this nation.

          • Let me postulate for a moment. (I came to understand this working in a
            “union” factory.) I am in authority and I lie constantly about my
            employees, and to my employers (they know this is true), I am a constant
            bully, I play obvious favorites to make others upset, I think that if my workers are unhappy, then they work better, I am a sadist, I (apparently) am
            sociopathic, I steal (and have been caught) from my employees and
            employer, BUT I feel very happy about myself. THEN, I am totally normal
            according to most of the Psychiatric profession. Now, if I complain
            that I am depressed, then the same profession terms me mentally ill.
            AND look out. What I have said is based on my own direct observations.
            I have seen this person in action first-hand and what happens to those
            he can needle into despair. I was in the middle of this trying to keep a lid on things. I finally gave up and left. P.S. The company in question did finally
            fire this sack, after he started accusing employees of wanting to kill
            him. He even got away with those lies for awhile. With this guys behavior
            they actually believed that one. Small wonder.

          • FredAppell

            He probably helped make them a great deal of money as well as
            kissing the right asses. It really is about who you know, aside from that, the real question is, was the union seen as a big headache to the company heads, perhaps the higher ups enjoyed watching union members getting pushed around a bit. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of the workers really did want to kill him. No one could tolerate being berated all the time and not have homicidal thoughts every now and then. If you are trying to draw a connection between psychotic behavior and the T/P then you have done well grasshopper.

          • plc97477

            His/her name wasn’t by any chance lana was it?

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Lana is beyond delusional and WAY beyond fanatical…thankfully, it would appear that she has gone down for her nap….

          • plc97477

            I hope it is a long one.

          • Fern Woodfork

            In Other Words A Tea Bagging Home Schooled, Koch Brothers Butt Sucking, KKK Cave Dwelling Gutter Tramp, Trailer Park Cat Do Do Eating Troll!!

          • idamag

            Hey! Fern, good to see you.

          • Fern Woodfork

            Always Good Seeing You My Friend!!! 🙂

          • idamag

            I belong to the Southern Poverty Law Center. They keep watch on hate groups. Some of lana’s rhetoric, along with a couple of other posters, is almost word for word quotations from hate leaders. She is disgusting and certainly not an asset to this country.

          • For all that we’re picking on Lana today; Fern has a mean, dirty mouth. I think she needs to clean up her posts and stick to comprehensive sentences that will further intelligent discussion.

          • Fern Woodfork

            Hey Bitch Mind Your Damn Business FUCK YOU AND lana ward!!!!!!!!!! Why Don’t You Gather Her Ass Up And Take Her Of This Web Site!!! Bye Bye!!

        • Sand_Cat

          BEST. RESPONSE. EVER!

          • FredAppell

            Thank you my friend. She is now my special project. She started this last night. Her first post to me was was so vile, there is one more word to her rant that the rest of you couldn’t see by design. She told me to die so I thought I would treat her to some
            twisted behavior. There is so much more in store for her.

        • idamag

          I don’t read her posts. She is our resident nut.

          • FredAppell

            I know, but she went too far last night. I was so tired because it was so late that I felt like being over the top. I really couldn’t think of anything else at the time.

          • plc97477

            You are missing a comedy routine like no other.

          • idamag

            I don’t find the hate group members funny.

        • Fern Woodfork

          LOL!!!

        • plc97477

          She is just upset that you figured the scam out.

          • FredAppell

            It figures that it came at a time when I was dogged tired.

      • stcroixcarp

        Please tone down the vulgarity.

      • atc333

        Such vulgar talk coming from such a nice sounding name. If you took the time to listen to the agenda of many of these ”Educational Groups”, you would easily discern that these are for “political purposes”, to indoctrinate young adults made available to them in the Right Wing political view.

        Basically, it is what the “Hitler Youth” did in Germany, indoctrinating the German youth in the Fuhrer’s belief in “the master race”, world domination, and mass exterminations. While the message is different, the concept behind the “educational” purposes of these groups,

        Each of these groups ( regardless if left or right ) has a constitutional right to their views, and actions, but they do not have the right to require me as a US taxpayer to subsidize their work with tax exempt status.

        The only thing the Service did which was wrong was to take too long to act on their applications. . What I heard from many of these “educational groups” was that they were pursuing their political agenda through long term manipulation of the younger generations viewpoints. That is a violation,and they are not entitled to any such status.

        As pointed out, these hearing are for the consumption of the Faithful, little was noted of their violations of the law they were claiming special treatment under.

        • I agree. Unfortunately, influencing the way we think and our decisions, applies to ALL political organizations, not just the Tea Party. The reason the applications for tax exempt status submitted by some TP organizations were rejected is because they contained information that violated the requirements to qualify for tax exempt status. The investigation should be on whether or not those “errors” were deliberate or just a mistake. Most importantly, the whole issue of giving tax exempt status to political organizations that do nothing to benefit the welfare of the people should be reassessed.

          • Canistercook

            Reassessed yes, discriminated against NO!

        • lana ward

          These groups were singled out because they are against OHitlers agenda, or aren’t you paying attention to the hearings. Individuals were singled out too that donated to Romney. OHitler is slick, he is the enemy and the IRS, DOJ, and FBI are the enemy under him too. The Tea Party believe what our Founding Fathers believed. It’s what makes America great. OHitler is undoing all of what is great. He is the enemy of America. A traitor and a terrorist. Heil OHitler!!! May he meet his maker SOON!!!!

          • atc333

            Sorry, It was not just Tea Party groups which were targets. You seem to forget that minor detail.

          • lana ward

            You’re right. 100s of wealthy Romney donors were targeted too, put through hell and it cost them thousands of dollars. The terrorist IRS better at least pay them back their money!!!! They helped OHitler steal the election

          • A_Schick

            Who is going to stand up for the wealthy!?!?! WHO I ASK?!?!?!?!

          • lana ward

            Who is standing up for the poor?? OHitler is making even the middle class poor

          • Canistercook

            Dream on, the ‘government has the ‘power’ to punish ‘us’ the people if ‘they’ don’t like what we believe or stand for!

          • lana ward

            Only under OHitler has there been an enemies list and they have been punished by the IRS.

          • Canistercook

            And so are people who refuse to support the union controlled democrats that now run the country
            Sent from my iPad

          • Canistercook

            Just mostly ‘right leaning organizations’ I guess so it was OK by you!

          • atc333

            Nope, not at all. Any organization which sets itself up to “educate” children, much less the general public to a particular political organization’s narrow viewpoint, be it children, or adults, liberal or conservative, they are engaging in political activity, and should not be tax exempt. This is very different from campaign donations to specific political candidates.

          • Canistercook

            Then you better take on the teacher’s unions that require us to educate undocumented illegals and the professors like ‘Angela Davis !
            Sent from my iPad

          • atc333

            You mean like Rick Perry, Gov. of Texas? I didn’t know he was in a Teacher’s Union. I thought he was a hard core Right Wing Republican.

            Actually, those decisions are not made by teachers union, but by Legislators, County and State representatives, and School Administrators.

            The Teacher’s unions are just another pressure group.

          • Dana Es

            Lana didn’t forget that detail. She/he just refuses to acknowledge it.

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            I see a little visit from the Secret Service coming your way Lana….better get out of your robe and throw on something presentable….

          • lana ward

            They won’t come your way, you’re a commie just like they are

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            You’re pathetic Lana – and most people on this site simply ignore your twisted rhetoric…go to he !! Romney and his ilk will meet you there soon enough.

          • lana ward

            You’re pathetic, Elisabeth- you hate everything that makes our country good and decent. You and your ilk need to leave, get out, let someone who loves America lead us out of this OHitler nightmare. Someone like Romney

          • A_Schick

            “You don’t like the way we do things, so you can leave!” – The founding of America

          • BDC_57

            yeah she should go live in china

          • morbius777

            Are you working on secession? We’ll hold the door for you.

          • TZToronto

            Geez, you’re angry. What’s your problem? Did you happen to notice the Patriot Act when it passed through Congress in 2001? Were you angry then, or did you think it was a great piece of legislation that made everyone free? From what I’ve read in what you’ve written, I think President Obama is probably the first person ever to be a Muslim Fascist Socialist Commie.

          • lana ward

            Communist has always failed. And so will America under OHitler

          • morbius777

            Do you even know what a “commie” is? You sound like your right out of the 50’s.

          • BDC_57

            no she don’t know what a commie is

          • idamag

            She doesn’t know anything period. She should stay on breitbart where the vile hatemongers can see who can say the nastiest and pat each other on the back.

          • A_Schick

            Who is OHitler? I don’t know anybody by that name.

          • lana ward

            Just to humor you, OHitler is your d**k licking queer terrorist leader

          • A_Schick

            Alas, Lana, I believe it is we that are humoring you.

          • almoore

            LeVert?

          • lana ward

            Reggie Love

          • almoore

            LeVert is the only gay black terrorist that I know.

          • lana ward

            Then you know two–LeVert and OHitler

          • TZToronto

            Wow! Now he’s a Muslim Fascist Socialist Communist Homosexual. That’s some pedigree!

          • lana ward

            You FINALLY got it, I’ll be damned!!!!

          • TZToronto

            What are you smoking?

          • edwardw69

            You will be. By the Secret Service. Assassin.

          • A_Schick

            I think Lana meant our DUCK licking etc. etc.

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Lana is still brooding over the fact that her man with all his money in foreign banks isn’t leading our country..

          • You are lucky to live in a country with a government and rights that allow people to make comments like the ones you routinely do. Thousands of people worldwide have disappeared or spent their lives in jail for a lot less than what you have done.
            Have you ever considered the damage you do to our country when you post opinions like the ones you made this morning? Do you realize that everyone, everywhere, has access to mediums such as this? There is already enough anti-American feelings and animosity towards us, towards are form of government and our values to have people like you confirming the validity of those feelings.

          • lana ward

            And the ones like Fern makes?????? You’re funny, Fern has said way worse. I’ve never seen you “scold” her LOL

          • Canistercook

            Guess we should be thankful we are not ‘disappearing like the lefties would like us to! We are just overtaxed and ‘monitored’!

          • edwardw69

            Are you advocating the assassination of the President of the United States?

          • lana ward

            Is that any of your business??

          • edwardw69

            Why, yes, it is. Do you advocate the assassination of the President?

          • lana ward

            Why…no, it isn’t

          • edwardw69

            Yes, it is. I am a retired United States Army sergeant. I have taken the liberty of referring the US Secret Service to this blog and your threat against the life of the President.

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Lana – you really should be careful here….you are crossing over some fine lines and don’t think for one iota of a second that there aren’t people watching and listening to your hate rhetoric…

          • lana ward

            Of course they are watching and listening. I told you we are now a communist nation under OHitler. Heil OHitler!!!!

          • TZToronto

            Excuse me, but Hitler was a fascist who hated communists. Your analogies do not work.

          • idamag

            Before hitler started on the Jews, he was arresting Communists, gays, Union labor leaders and Gypsies.

          • plc97477

            Sure is. He is our president.

          • lana ward

            I take the 5th

          • morbius777

            “The Tea Party believe (it’s believes, moron) what our Founding (are you sure its not Funding) Fathers believed. Hardly. Can you even name 3 “founding fathers”? I doubt it. To much inbreeding in the south, I’m afraid.

        • Canistercook

          Ever wonder why the IRS took ‘too long’ and what is happening to ‘Land of the free’!

      • FT66

        Excellency Lana,

        It costs nothing to be civilised. This kind of language doesn’t sound good in our ears. How about polishing your tongue a little bit!

        • lana ward

          I picked it up from all of you. I think I like it

        • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

          Maybe if we just ignore “lana ward” he/she will just go away.

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Never happen – she’s one from the red states that doesn’t work for a living but sucks off the government teat as she accuses those of us who work of doing the same…

          • lana ward

            Bi*ch, I work harder than you do

          • morbius777

            At what? Eating bonbons?

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Not only is Lana misguided and tedious, but she is so angry that it really makes one feel bad for her…poor thing. Like a puppy with no home and no bone…

          • almoore

            Yea, sad but still funny.

          • Fern Woodfork

            Nope Eat Cat Shit!!

          • edwardw69

            Secret Service. Repeat that five times to yourself. You have advocated the assassination of the President of the United States. Soon, you will not only be repeating it to yourself, you will be meeting them.

          • FredAppell

            Stop picking on my bestie, Lana is the most caring intelligent person I know. I wouldn’t know anything about the world if it weren’t for her gentle hand guiding me.

          • almoore

            For some reason as I read lana’s posts I picture the mother of Honey Boo Boo.

          • FredAppell

            I tried hard to come up with something funny and clever to that but that image just grosses me out way too much. It’s probably not far off the mark either.

          • Fern Woodfork

            With Less Teeth!! LOL Mama June!! LOL

          • Dana Es

            Ummmm, have people stopped insisting that Lana’s actually a male? I don’t read comment boards as often as some people do, so I may have missed something.

          • FredAppell

            Are you sure Lana’s a male? Good to know. It still doesn’t change anything.

          • idamag

            She is a female and a disgrace to the gender.

          • FredAppell

            Oh I don’t know, I find it of kind of sexy. I like a women with a little spice to her personality. I agree that Lana has some slight quirks, but whom among us is without flaws? Idamag, I think we have judged the poor girl unfairly.

          • plc97477

            I guess males can be insane also.

          • FredAppell

            I know I am. But you have to clarify for me about Lana’s gender. Everyone has their own opinion about that. It’s really only a curiosity of mine, it won’t affect anything.

          • plc97477

            I really don’t know about the gender. Someone on one of the rants said he she told them at one point that she is a he. I did not hear it myself.

          • FredAppell

            O.k. then, we’ll never know for sure. No worries, I still intend to have some fun.

          • plc97477

            Jocularity it is then. Have fun.

          • FredAppell

            Thank you, I will. Have a great night.

          • idamag

            If you were really getting turned on by lana, I would have to wonder about your sanity. But then, I heard about a man who could only get turned on in elevators.

          • FredAppell

            Lol, I hope you would know by now that I could never be turned on by someone who is so vile and disrespectful. I am however intrigued about what makes her tick. I do have to be careful not to be sucked down into the insane abyss that is Lana Ward. Have you considered that every comment she makes that gets under your skin is a victory for her. If Lana can force you to lash out, she wins. My solution, play the game on my terms, not hers.

          • Dana Es

            I can’t be sure myself, but months ago there were people on some of the boards who claimed they knew that Lana is a male. Someone even claimed to have found out the real name. Apparently that’s not mentioned any more? Like I said, sometimes I don’t keep up.

          • FredAppell

            Sometimes it’s difficult to keep up. Everything generally changes in a matter of hours on the National Memo. The only thing that I am sure of regarding Lana is his/her support for the Tea Party.
            It was my comment about the Tea Party that set off the exchanges between myself and Lana.

          • midway54

            Like leprosy or a flesh-eating virus severe mental disease will not go away irrespective of any effort to ignore its presence.

          • Or “it”

          • edwardw69

            I have advocated that before. But now she has called for assassination. It has gone beyond foolishness.

      • Elisabeth Gordon

        Wow Lana – seek help, or better yet sign up for the Tea party…you’re truly in need of help and a little lesson in manners wouldn’t hurt either…I truly feel sorry for you.

        • lana ward

          Manners? Liar, you’re used to it, I picked such talk up from people on this site. I feel sorry for you, you’re the one who hates America

          • Elisabeth Gordon

            Oh jeez – Lana just awoke from her thorzine induced coma…run like the wind….save yourselves…!

          • Terry W. Lake

            Wow, Another Faceless Coward Repugnitan Calling anyone who opposes their Hitler Style youth training through taxpayer funding liars. How is life in the land of Denial Lana, are facts oblivious, funding from corporations unlimited, lying unchecked, name calling promoted, bigotry the means of oppression and obsession. Things are all rosy in the land of Anti Gay, Anti Women, Anti 47% Americans, Anti Immigration, Anti Regulation, Anti Environment, Anti Tax The Rich, Anti Facts. Can anyone say brainwashed American Terrorist;~} You see I have learned well how to call names too from sights like these and people like you…. Good Job Lana… Nice focus on the Facts Lana… Such Polite Use Of The English Language… Thanks for helping to send some more people of true intelligence to the Democrat Party… This will truly help in our next election as those that were unaware are now becoming aware. Aware of the bigotry at your level and what it is brainwashed into voting for… Kudos, we need more people like you commenting all the time… Showing the true bigotry… I bet you hate yourself because you are a second class women citizen;~)

          • morbius777

            If your referring to your version of America, your damn right. (and I mean it both ways). Several things can be surmised from your posts: your an older white male, from the south, a tea bagger, probably a John Birch Society member, probably an evangelical, a gun nut, and a racist……. did I leave anything out? I also know your a coward. How do I know? Because if you had an ounce of courage and honor, you’d get your NRA buddies to pressure your tea bagger members of congress to legalize dueling….. get rid of this cowardly concealed weapons law. Get it out in the open legally. I’m betting you wouldn’t run your mouth so recklessly if someone is pointing a gun AT YOU.

          • lana ward

            At least I would have a gun. You would have to point your finger

          • morbius777

            I pretty much got you pegged, don’t I. Redneck gunnut. And don’t count on me being unarmed. I still say your a coward.

          • lana ward

            No you don’t, and dems can’t have weapons. Get rid of it before OHitler takes it. They are bad

      • A_Schick

        ha. Ha ha. HA HA HA.

      • Elisabeth Gordon

        Whoa – calm down girl….go get that prescription filled immediately…poor dear…

      • morbius777

        Tea Baggers….. do something good for America….secede.

        • TZToronto

          They can’t secede. That was tried once, and it didn’t work. So the best they can do is go somewhere else to find a place where the only direction is right and the only education is stupid. Where might that be? . . . Who would want them?

          • morbius777

            Sure they could. It would take an amendment to the constitution, but it could be done. There is NO law that is passed that can’t be undone if there is enough support for it. I have a hard time understanding why two populations who are so diametrically opposed to each other would want to stay together.

          • TZToronto

            Yes, why would they want to stay together. As far as a secession amendment, it would have to pass three-quarters of the states, and that’s not likely. And even if it were approved, the terms of secession would be unacceptable to those states seceding. They’d have to take with them a proportion of the national debt equal to their proportion of the population. So Texas, for example, would start business $1.24 trillion in the hole–not to mention the fact that the good folks in Texas would have to deal with their illegal immigration problems on their own. And what happens when businesses in the seceding states decide that they’d rather be operating in a “real” country instead of a state run by demagogues? The already federal-government-dependent red states would turn into third-world countries rather quickly–especially when huge chunks of federal support (military bases, ports, airports, health care, etc.) suddenly evaporate–and do you think the U.S. government would let the red states retain nuclear weapons or military hardware? Also, a good proportion of the population of the red states would decide to leave for the real USA–and that would probably mean that the USA would suddenly become a liberal nation that operates on the basis of reason rather than fantasy and hatred.

          • morbius777

            I admit its a long shot. And I think the results you enumerate are more then likely. And I can’t think of a better group to have it happen to. Frankly, I want to rub their noses in it.

          • plc97477

            Sounds like a dream doesn’t it.

          • TZToronto

            If they try to come to Canada, they’ll get rejected when they’re asked if they want to be part of the health care system we have here and respond that they don’t want have to wait in line for months to see the commie doctors.

          • idamag

            I hear Argentina has a lot of land they open up for communes. Let all those nuts live together

          • plc97477

            I didn’t know we hated Argentina that much.

          • idamag

            We don’t it is just that Argentina is not fussy who settles there.

          • plc97477

            Maybe utah?

          • idamag

            Yeah! I understand Hilldale, Utah and Colorado City have been abandoned. The Taliban there are moving into other states.

      • When I read your troll drivel and over the top BS I think of a rowing team. STROKE, STROKE, STROKE . . . please do so. With that kind of vitriol, it won’t be long coming.

      • Lisztman

        Would someone shut the trap on this cockroach, please?

      • plc97477

        Truth hurts doesn’t it.

        • lana ward

          You tell me

    • sigrid28

      Having watched part of this hearing on C-Span, I must agree with Kevin Burghart. Our elected officials conducting the hearing did not ask once, while I was watching, about activities guest speakers mentioned that were clearly in violation of the tax-exempt status they had sought, apparently in error. I could not decide if the representatives of these aggrieved organizations were so star struck they forgot themselves, and let the truth leak out; or whether they were so ignorant that they did not understand that demonstrations and campaign activities were violations of the tax-exempt status they had sought. I was so distracted by this level of apparent mendacity coming from people who had sworn to tell the truth that the level of hyperbole in their commentary testimony sort of floated right over my head.

      Reading it in Mr. Burghart’s excellent article brings out, for me, another aspect of deceit in these presentations by individuals who would portray themselves as “IRS victims.” None had been denied the tax-exempt status they had sought, but even so they felt they should not have been asked to explain their intentions or account for activities that were clearly outside of the scope of the 501c3 or 501c4 status for which they had applied. It is as if a high school senior signed up to take the SAT and then got all huffy when it came time to sit down and fill in the answers. Rather charitably, Mr. Burghart attributes this to their somewhat unwarranted sense of entitlement. To me, it sounded like the chest-beating, over-the-top, quasi-formal rhetoric that I associate with avaricious television evangelists, pontificating from their gleaming pulputs within crystal cathedrals filled with thousands of worshipers hanging on their every word. The next thing these false prophets are about to say is, “Please pass the collection plate.”

      • Well said, as always. Obviously, the reason the investigating panel did not ask the “witnesses” to explain why they made false statements in their tax exempt applications is because doing so would have put an end to the witch-hunt, and the Tea Party would have ended up with egg on their faces. The panel knows what happened, what they don’t know is how to extricate themselves from potential damage to their – and their party’s – credibility.

        • Tom_D44

          I was not aware that the entire committee was made up of republicans. Was there not at least one democrat on the panel who could have asked these questions? Or is there no merit to that argument? Because I am pretty sure that if there was merit the democrats would have been all over it. Right?

          • Unfortunately, many Democrats in Congress, especially in the House, are so intimidated by the Tea Party that they roll over and allow travesties like this to go unchallenged. The same was true in the Bush era when a pathetic group of Democrats did not oppose the invasion of Iraq. Some Democrats in Congress, and a complicit media, are the reason issues that would not have elicited a second look when Reagan, Bush and others were in office to become pseudo scandals designed to feed red meat to the TP sharks.

          • Tom_D44

            I could not disagree with you more that democrats being beaten down by the TP. The democratic party is more united and feeling more empowered than ever before. I do agree with you however, that the media is complicit – albeit for different reasons. The democrats have the power of the media and the social acceptance of the pop culture hollywood icons behind them. To say that they are scared of the TP is ridiculous. I would believe that if these people were not challenged strongly on these points, by all the democrats on the panel, then there are reasons.

          • I wish I could share your enthusiasm. I have been a Democrat by whole life, and I am proud of the accomplishments made by my party of choice during the past several decades, but I was not too impressed with the way they rolled over and took the punishment when W was in office, and I am not too impressed with the way some of them are behaving now. Sometimes, it almost seems as if the GOP/TP won the election last year.
            BTW, that is the only reservation I have about Hillary’s candidacy, and one of the reasons I am so impressed with Elizabeth Warren. We must stop trying to be civil and accommodating, and give the GOP the same medicine they dish out. Let’s start with an investigation over the misdeeds of Reagan (Iran-Contra, El Salvador, Grenada, the S&L debacle, trickle down economics), with the lies used by Bush and Cheney to justify the invasion of a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 or any of the acts of terrorism against our diplomatic missions, and all the not so subtle unconstitutional violations of the law when the GOP was in charge. While we are at it, we might as well re-investigate 9/11, but this time with a special focus on establishing a link between W’s ineptitude and Cheney’s thirst for an excuse to pursue his crimes instead of an investigation focused on trying to determine national defense weaknesses and ways to minimize the probability of more attacks.

          • plc97477

            Unfortunately the average democrat does not like dirty politics. It is distasteful to them. Getting in the face of repugs does seem a little dirty and partisan. It is hard to be a dem because our politicians have to seem nice while at the same time try to show that they are the best choice.

          • Consider what just happened in the Senate regarding the Reed-Harkin Student Loan Affordability Act. The minority party in the Senate managed to extend the 3.4% interest rate two more years instead of lowering to 0.75, the interest rate paid by banks. They didn’t do that on their own, Democrats in Congress joined their GOP colleagues in helping our special interests instead of helping students get the financial aid they need to pursue a college education. They didn’t do it because of unspecified reasons, they did it because they are afraid of being labeled “tax and spend” Democrats. Obviously, lone rangers like Elizabeth Warren could not do it on their own.

          • Sand_Cat

            But the Democratic Party is still largely a center-right party unwilling to fight and apparently still expecting good faith from their “friends” across the aisle.

          • Canistercook

            Most Democrats voted for the Iraq invasion!

          • almoore

            Most of us were misled about Iraq. I was in favor of the invasion at first.

          • The whole country was duped, in fact, most people thought Iraq participated in 9/11 and enthusiastically supported the invasion. That was one of the main objectives of an invasion influenced by a cynical attempt to convince a naïve populace that something was being done to avenge 9/11 while, in reality, the focus was on pursuing economic goals and punishing a former ally who had the audacity of giving contract proposals submitted by Cheney and Rumsfeld on behalf of Halliburton and Bechtel to Russian and French companies. Those are the kind of unlawful activities that deserve to be investigated – and the culprits punished – not made up “scandals” that are an embarrassment to any person capable of using their gray mass.
            Regarding the invasion of Iraq, let’s not forget that was proposed and executed by the same folks that warned us of an imminent invasion of the USA Nicaraguan contras. I can almost feel the pain caused by their Chiquita bananas!

          • robertblair3174

            If you were paying attention, you might have realized that AlQueida was a Shiite organization. No way in hell Hussein was going to allow them in the Sunni governed Iraq. WMD was a sham based on supplies WE sold him to use against Iran (He was our ALLY then, remember?) and estimates of what he actually used (Apparently, as things came to light ALL of them) Knee-jerk emotional responses to tragic events often lead to disasters (AUMF, The “Patriot Act” and all the chaos since)

          • FredAppell

            Same here, I could remember thinking we should turn the entire Middle East into a complete wasteland. I have done a lot of soul
            searching and maturing since those early days. At first, all I wanted was blood and lot’s of it. Then I started to learn much more about the Middle East and their rich history and also our relationship with them over the years. We really haven’t treated the people very well. The more I learned, the more my feelings toward them started to drastically change. I’ll never except terrorism but I can’t in conscience condemn an entire region of the world for the actions of a few. You know what we never hear the right wing talk about, the fact that the terrorists are killing more Muslims than any other group of people. The truth is, we are not at war with Islam, we are at war with a bunch of violent fanatics
            hiding behind Islam.

          • Only because your trash heroes LIED! Your bunch of repub miscreants believe a lie is as good as the truth. Especially when it gets you what you want. AND I was always against the invasion. I know your kind for the liars you are!

          • Canistercook

            Wonder if you know anything since your response is nothing but rude and coarse
            Sent from my iPad

          • Sand_Cat

            And your post is arrogant and taunting, and ignores the fact that the nation was presented with “evidence” from people sworn to uphold the Constitution and laws of the United States and defend it from domestic and foreign enemies, people they should have been able to trust – apparently were desperate to trust – as fellow citizens supposedly – but obviously not – concerned for the well-being of the nation.

            If you want courtesy, then don’t start by picking a fight relying on bogus and dishonest comments delivered in a condescending tone.

          • idamag

            Although this conversation was about the FBI hearings, somehow it got turned into the Iraqi war. However, as a nation, we have a right to be angry about the biggest lie and most devastating lie ever told.

          • Fern Woodfork

            Trolls Are Good At Flip Flopping And Switching The Script!!!

          • Catskinner

            That Barack Obama is trustworthy and honest?

          • Canistercook

            Too far gone to the left to help I guess

            Sent from my iPad

          • plc97477

            Just what you deserved. I didn’t see anything but truth in what he said.

          • Sand_Cat

            True enough. Personally, I see no reason why they should have believed anything coming from Bush and Cheney, but those who said that members of all parties should be able to trust the president on matters of such gravity are right. Another nail in the coffin of the United States as a Constitutional Republic.

          • plc97477

            They only voted to let baby bush decide if it was needed. Obviously a mistake.

          • Sand_Cat

            Unfortunately, many Democrats in the House at this point are not much different from their Republican “antagonists”: this is certainly true in the Senate

          • midway54

            Representative Doggett, a democrat from Texas, in full session of the committee and for the record cited the specific language in the 1913 statute and then the 1959 IRS regulation that appeared in which the term “exclusively” was changed to “primarily” in describing the extent to which the applicant organization needed to be engaged in social activity for the welfare of the citizens. With this change came the question of what kind of activity that was not primary was acceptable. Obviously, many decided that political activity was the answer for those now crying out against the need of the IRS to determine through investigation whether the applicant(s) qualified for the tax benefit.

        • Canistercook

          I think the egg is on the Unionised left wing IRS’s face. Our real democracy is fading away.

          • Only if you are a trolling liar that lives in a fantasy world where paranoia is normal. So, you are jealous of unions. So much so you must make a totally irrelevant reference to defame people that have nothing to do with the subject. As well, you hate paying your taxes and performing your normal citizenship obligations. You think manufactured news and scandals are the way the world must be. Our democracy is not fading away, evil filth like you are stomping it into the ground with your jackboots! You are Un-American by definition.

          • Canistercook

            I am not jealous of unions, they have a place in industry to give rights to workers, but they have no place in government that I pay for and government should support the rights of both union workers and corporations equally . Many forget it is corporations like GE and ford that provided such a good standard of living for those pilgrims who came here,
            Sent from my iPad

          • Sand_Cat

            Because those in government should either donate their time or be “paid” by stealing as much as possible, right? How dare the government spend YOUR money to try to hire competent people!

            And I’m glad to know that GE and ford [sic] were there to greet the pilgrims at Plymouth Rock, though my history texts must have been deficient: they never mentioned it.

            Henry Ford may have been anti-union, but he was the one who said the people who worked for him should be paid well enough to buy his products, a philosophy so far removed from that of the management of modern-day GE and Ford – and people like you regarding people who work for you – as to seem like a fairy tale.

            People like you and modern day corporate executives are the biggest reasons why this country needs unions more than ever. I’m sure you enjoy your benefits that you wouldn’t get if union people had not been willing to suffer humiliation, imprisonment, and even death to win them for their members, forcing other industries to compete. You do have a job, right?

            I often wonder how often the Republican stereotype of the opposition as a bunch of freeloaders lying on the couch swilling beer and watching TV rather than supporting themselves is pure projection.

          • idamag

            There was a method behind the madness of destroying the working peoples’ lobby voice.

          • 788eddie

            GE and Ford have nothing to do with pilgrims; GE does not pay its fair share of income tax due to help support the nation that shelters them, their workers and shareholders.

            Unions and management/owners do not have the same agenda. Unions are needed to offset the power the owners have. Evidence: as unions have declined, so have workers wages.

          • idamag

            The white supremists and neo Nazis are sending trolls to this site all the time.

          • Sand_Cat

            That’s what you get for thinking when you do it so seldom and so poorly.

          • idamag

            Because of people like you.

        • JSquercia

          I believe that Issa promised non stop investigations into the most corrupt administration in history (his words NOT mine)

          .The Supervisor described himself as a Conservative Republican

          Issa released portions of the hearings but NOT the full transcript as he pROMISED to do .When the ranking Democrat said HE would release the FULL transcript Issa warned him about impacting the hearings .

          The man is a fraud and a LIAR

          • idamag

            And Issa has a background that is less than stellar.

      • FredAppell

        Or a party that has lost their f**king minds.

      • Canistercook

        Supposedly all are entitled to ‘equal’ treatment under the law and if any group is shown to be inviolation of the ‘law’ it should be issued a ‘denial’ not filed away so ones ‘chosen’ party can succeed!

        • sigrid28

          As I understand it, 300 applications were “flagged,” and of those, about 80 had Tea Party, 912, or Patriot identifications. None of these were or have been denied tax-exempt status, though some remain under scrutiny in a “backlog.” The same applies to the other 220 flagged applications, except for one left-leaning organization that was denied tax-exempt status. Groups that do not wish to answer questions posed by the IRS in order to obtain tax-exempt status should not apply in the first place. They may, also, simply withdraw their applications and refuse to answer the questions. The political party so far denied tax-exempt status is left leaning–no denial so far for the groups flagged on the right or those in between. If you look at this just in terms of the numbers of applications under scrutiny, these Tea Party groups that testified about how they were acting on behalf of candidates have nothing to complain about. They should never have applied in the first place for 501c4 status.

          • Canistercook

            Sure did ask a lot of questions like illegal ones ‘who are your members and donors’ but I guess if one is dyed in th wool democrat it’s ok to ask these as an excuse to hold up approval until after your messiah is reelected
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          • sigrid28

            These groups waiting for tax-exempt status were “free” to campaign to their hearts’ content and carry out any and all election activities while their applications were being processed. ONLY the opportunity to do so WITHOUT BEING TAXED was held up.

            If these groups applying for 501c4 status did not want to answer questions, they were “free” to carry on any and all election activities while not doing so. An IRS decision before the election would be the same as a decision after it, if a Tea Party organization–or any other–truly deserved tax-exempt status.

            As for “illegal” questions, these may have been asked the other 220 groups flagged for review as well; only about 70 were Tea Party, 912, or Patriot affiliated, as I understand it. Look at an alumni news letter for any school or college or university. While you are waiting for the curtain to go up, read the program for a concert sponsored by a charitable organization. Legitimate 501c4 organizations proudly acknowledge donors by name and even how much they have donated. You might see a list of prominent group members, administrative staff, and board of directors, for example. This is a very common means of raising money to support the social welfare activities of groups that truly deserve the tax-exempt status, under our current laws.

        • Your most popular response also happens to be nonsensical. The teatards would go wild if they were turned down. AND to show just how stupid you really are. If these group’s applications were turned down, would that not help the “chosen” party succeed? The fact that the IRS is still considering the right-wing political activists apps should be seen as a positive. You ALMOST got one point right. ALL teatard groups should be turned down flat.Your entire line of reasoning is based on various lies that you think serve your ends.

          • Canistercook

            And many in Germany saw the extermination of the Jews as positive. Makes me wonder how many democratic voters hold views like you.
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          • Sand_Cat

            Supreme irony for someone like you who apparently shares so many of the Nazi’s views to compare those who dare to question you with them.

          • idamag

            Why don’t you go back to your WAR, Aryan brotherhood or 211 site or which ever one it was and you can pat each other on the back.

        • Your mob still complains about ACORN, an entity that does not exist. ACORN helped poor people and helped register them to vote. Beyond that, they were free to vote as they chose. Your ilk was livid. You kind hates poor and working class people. By contrast, your teatard groups help NO ONE, but spend all their time and money playing at politics. Politics that supports only one party, and even then, the most marginally insane, vicious, and evil candidates you can find. Yes, all teatard groups should be turned down out of hand. Your kind should have your citizenship revoked. You only care about how this nation can serve you and your evil view of the world. Anything or anyone else, you want to destroy. You are not a citizen of this nation, but a citizen of a fantasy nation based on hellish ideals.

          • Canistercook

            You sure pour out a lot of hate.

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          • Sand_Cat

            You sure pour out a lot of projection. Hate and intolerance are not the same as frustration with those who troll opposition sites to post off-topic taunts and then complain about the unwelcoming attitude they engender.

          • idamag

            If the facts don’t agree with your ideology, then it is hate. If your mob calls the president names and casts aspersions of all kinds on him and his family, that is not hate?

      • idamag

        This is an another example of the tparty bullying the government.

    • rustacus21

      … & remember, there was NEVER a CHANGE-OVER of leadership UNTIL just a week ago at the agency & the reason for the dogged refusal to allow THIS President to pick his cabinet & judges. So that ‘moles’ & ‘subversives’ could continue creating havoc for THIS administration – w/out end. But the responsibility lies w/whom for that on-going ‘scandal’ of inaction?

      • FredAppell

        I never looked at it from that perspective before. It does make sense.
        Tear down from the inside out. This plan is too damned organized to be being done on the fly. This took a major organized effort on the part of the right wing. I like your thinking.

        • rustacus21

          … thanx for the compliment; looking at this in panorama, from 2001 til this exact moment in time, we (for those who care to observe so closely) can see the money monolith sitting atop the entirety of THIS current admin, ensuring nothing happens – save that that’s ALLOWED by… U guessed it – the money monolith. Except if the scrutiny become too much to hide (the realities) of what is plainly, painfully obvious – that Prez. Obama is being forceably restrained from ‘acting’ as Prez. As in this case. This appears, by each passing day, that IRS insiders worked this plot & when caught, the inquisitioners (Issa, etc) have now backed down from ‘exploring’ any additional ‘revelations’. Odd… Very odd indeed…

          • FredAppell

            You’re welcome, I really enjoy unconventional thinking. That kind of thinking may be just the thing we need to save us from ourselves. If you think it, say it because you never know.

    • idamag

      Amen

    • Fern Woodfork

      I Totally Agree With You FredAppell, It’s The IRS Job To Look Into All These People Wanting Tax Exempts!!

      • FredAppell

        Thanks, I notice the right keeps tailoring the facts to fit their agenda while leaving specific facts out (big surprise). Their doing the same with Benghazi. Their purposely ignoring facts that would put both scandals to rest.

      • idamag

        We want the IRS to monitor tax payers and keep them honest on one hand and on the other we want certain groups to be exempt from scrutiny.

    • Mary Ann Hoogeveen

      Fred,you are 100% correct.The teaparty are a group of morons who can’t even spell correctly on the signs they hold.

      • FredAppell

        Dang it women, get me another beer and uh!put sompum perty on too whiles your at it.

  • If there is evidence that some government officials singled out a specific political organization to investigate and fine, those civil servants should be disciplined. However, if they investigated certain groups because they lied in their applications for tax exempt status, and did not investigate others because they could not find anything wrong when they reviewed their applications, they should be rewarded for a job well done.

    The larger issue for me is why are political organizations tax exempt? For that matter, why are churches tax exempt? Wasn’t that privilege limited to organizations whose only focus is to care for the welfare of needy Americans? I don’t have a problem with organizations like the Red Cross, the Shriners and others being tax exempt, I do have a problem with political organizations, regardless of ideology, churches, and other businesses not paying taxes while the average American has to contribute to Uncle Sam or risk time in jail.

    • TZToronto

      The real social welfare organizations have no problem staying out of politics. Heck, the ACLU would even defend skinheads if their civil rights were being violated. Does the Red Cross ask about political leanings when they help people in need?

  • docb

    Hypocrisy is the core of the right wing slime buckets!..Pervasive across the board! No level too low to sink. No lie too outrageous to tell!

    • ArchiesBoy

      Perfectly said!

    • idamag

      And, you are right, no lie is too outrageous to tell for the tparty people.

  • Catskinner

    If the IRS had simply denied these groups tax exempt status, and explained why they were doing so, we would not be watching this play out. They simply did not act on the applications, while demanding information that had nothing to do with taxes or IRS jurisdiction. If that had happened to me, I would think I was being targeted.

    • A_Schick

      “while demanding information that had nothing to do with taxes or IRS jurisdiction”

      The questions they were asking had a lot to do with the granting of tax exempt status, actually.

      • Catskinner

        Like, for instance, asking groups for their list of donors, or telling that one group they could have tax exempt status if they promised not to demonstrate in front of Planned Parenthood facilities?

        • A_Schick

          Which sounds like a political action to me.

          • Catskinner

            Absolutely, on the part of the IRS, yes!

        • idamag

          I must have missed some of those things.

    • Canistercook

      I understand they did not ‘deny’ the tax exempt status, they just held them up because they had no legal basis to ‘deny’ them!

      • Catskinner

        Yes, Canistercook, that’s my understanding as well.

        • elw

          Then show the proof of it. Your understanding is not proof of anything.

          • Catskinner

            The proof is in the testimony presented by the victims. They all had reams of documentation. Or maybe I don’t understand your point. I’m simply agreeing with you.

          • elw

            No that is the whole problem they have not presented any proof of their claims. Neither has the committee come up with any real proof of all their claims. The only thing we know is that yes there was a data search done that was not appropriate. We do know that there were 298 organizations pulled for a closer look by that search of which just a little under 1/3 were Conservative Organizations. Except for what they claim, we have no idea why, on an individual case, they had to answer the amount and kind of questions sent to them, because the IRS is not allowed to talk about individual cases in public and they have not presented anything written to even support their opinions that were pick on because they are Conservative. Don’t you think that if that Republican led Committee had anything that was actually proof they would have all over the Internet and in the media?

          • Catskinner

            It seems to me like we’re watching different hearings, elw. The people I saw had closets full of documentation. Issa and the Republicans wanted to hold public hearings in order to prove that the IRS was complicit in helping Obama steal the 2012 election. It looks to me like they did a pretty good job of it.

          • elw

            Yes, and Romney was going to win the election. Did you see or get to read what was in that documentation or just take their word for it? You must be kidding about thinking that the IRS helped the President steal the 2012 election. He won by close to 6 million votes and over 300 electorial votes. Good luck trying to prove that.

          • Catskinner

            I’m not interested in proving it. It wouldn’t do any good anyway.

          • elw

            But you have no problems making the unproven accusations? Shame on you.

          • Catskinner

            elw, I don’t know if you’re still in high school, or if you’ve always been a public employee, but you don’t seem to know what proof is.

      • elw

        That is what is being implied, but noone has shown any direct proof of that. Since the IRS is not allow to discuss individual cases in public we will never know exactly what their reasons were for all the questions or if the questions were really out-of-line. The people making claims made lots of accusations that were not backed up with any hard evidence (as did the Republicans running the meeting). It was shameful.

        • Canistercook

          Either approve them or deny them that is the law. Nothing in the law allowed them to just hold them up while Obama gets elected. This is dirty politics like the system in other 3rd world countries
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          • elw

            Again, where is the proof of that accusation? I do agree they should have just turned them down if the paperwork was not completed or contained questionable information.

          • Canistercook

            Sure can create a lot of paperwork if you want to make sure it will delay their approval long enough to prevent their ability to raise money to help prevent your massiah’s reelection I guess! M
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          • elw

            Are you saying that that was the purpose of the Organizations? That would put a great big red flag on it, since the regulations put limitations on political activities, the status is suppose to to organization that provide services to benefit the good of the Community and campaign or raising money to defeat a candidate would definitely not be considered acceptable.

          • Canistercook

            They did not say paperwork was not complete, they just kept asking for more information and ‘shelved’ the application until after Obama reelection to silence their voice . Wonderfully democratic isn’t it!
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          • elw

            Where is the proof of that? Untill someone show something that will prove that accusation, that’s all it is is an empty accusation. Do you think the IRS should just hand those exemption out without questioning anyone? When this was going on the IRS was under the control of a Republican who was appointed by Bush.

          • Dana Es

            Excuse me, the tax exempt status they wanted was not for groups involved in politics — are you saying –GASP — they actually were and thus possibly would have affected the election?! I guess they should have just been outright denied, right?

          • Dana Es

            Since the groups not yet approved for tax exempt status apparently had nothing to do with politics, I guess the delay didn’t really have any effect on the election one way or another, did it?

    • elw

      Do you really believe that if these people had been denied the exempt status that they would not have complained? I don’t. I do agree that the IRS should have just turned them down; after all it looks like they do little for their community and everything for their political agenda and that is not allow under the rules of the status they are asking for.

      • Catskinner

        Personally, elw, I don’t think anyone should be getting tax-exempt status, but it they’re going to allow it, they can’t award it to left leaning groups and deny it to right leaning groups.

        • elw

          You would right if that was what happened, but it wasn’t those groups got their exemption status. I do not agree with no one getting the exemption; let face it if the requirement was no political activities, it would not really matter what direction the groups leaned in because none of them would be unable to apply except those that are only doing charity or other kinds of activity that directly benefit the people and their communities as a whole .

          • Catskinner

            Most of the people appearing before the commission were either not able to obtain their tax-exempt status, or they had to wait an extraordinarily long time to get it. Left leaning groups sailed right through. The rumor is that a relative of the president was able to obtain a tax-exempt status in a matter of 18 days.

          • edwardw69

            “Rumor,” heh?

          • idamag

            Rumor has it that you have been sleeping with your best friend’s spouse and have an STD.

          • Catskinner

            Washington Post, 2 weeks ago: Malik Obama, Barack Obama’s half brother, was granted tax exempt status in less than a month. It was signed personally by Lois Lerner. It has since been determines that Malik’s non-profit enterprise is a scam.

          • idamag

            I think I read about you in the Washington Post, also. Well, it could have been you.

  • Elisabeth Gordon

    OK, let’s get one thing straight. Paul Ryan and his cronies are many things, but courageous and patriotic are not two of them…nothing would please me more than for ALL of them to simply go home and live off their respective wive’s inheritance…Paul Ryan has done ONE thing right in his life…and that is when he married UP..Way up.

    • idamag

      And then the twit forgot where he started from.

  • ram1020

    Though I am not a fan of the Tea Party, the whole idea of IRS targeting gives me the chills. If we fall into the trap of determining that our policies are for the greater good, and dissent is only political, then it only takes one election to find ourselves on the other side of the fence.

    • Canistercook

      Then you need to look at what many ‘exempt’ groups do like Rev Wright’s church group etc.

      • idamag

        All churches have tax exempt status.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    The Tea Party has grown all too full of itself. Now, when it demands we, the taxpayers, pay more than our fair share, they want elite tax status…tax exempt? When they are stuffing money illegally into campaigns and labeling themselves anything but what they really are: Political action committees?

    And, let’s stop pretending who put the Tea Party up to making invalid claims of tax exempt status if not the CEO honchos who are most knowledgeable in how to avoid paying taxes? Dig, dig, dig….somewhere in this Tea Party hornet’s nest is a GOP politician who overstepped his loyalty to billionaires.

  • latebloomingrandma

    After reading this article, I’m inclined to believe the IRS DIDN’T do it’s job by granting these organizations tax exempt status. Social welfare groups? That’s reeeeeally a stretch.

    • idamag

      I find it outrageous that anti-government groups, in my mind they are subversive, are not supposed to be investigated.

  • JDavidS

    The first mistake is having an asshole like Paul Ryan on ANY committee. The next was listening to the Tea Clowns.

    • almoore

      I like to refer to them as teatards.

  • midway54

    The continuing reports on this IRS topic have shown that none of the soi disant patriots’ groups was turned down in response to their applications for tax relief (subsidized by average Americans who pay their fair share of tax burdens). These corporate-funded rightwing propaganda organizations are neither primarily nor exclusively social organizations dedicated to welfare of the citizenry: they have shown themselves to be shameless political advocacy groups through their public activity. What these rightwing political servants of the proto-fascist plutocracy should actually do is to keep their mouths shut, because of what they got away with despite the qualifications specified in the statute. But the urge to blame the Administration was too great for them and as is their usual habit proceeded to make asses of themselves, which is currently continuing. Likely, these scoundrels, as well as their masters the plutocrats, know the pathetic dimwits back home who elected them will swallow the bilge being served them, never see through all this, and will reliably run off and vote for them again.

  • The law(s) that allow these tax free groups is the problem. They should be free to do what they want, but do it on their own dime, and also be transparent. This is just one of the myriad ways the elite get their way, raise money, and spend it any way they want without paying a nickel of taxes. They say they hate the IRS? They have turned it into their own private piggy bank. I can’t stand our corrupt congress. We will be a third world country if we don’t turn back this tide of corruption.

  • elw

    “Congressman Sander Levin (D-MI) noted early in the hearing that while 298 organizations were set aside for review, only 96, or a third, contained “Tea Party,” “9/12,” or “Patriot” in their names, while 202 did not. In fact, according to the draft report by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration, none of the 296 questionable applicants had been denied a tax exemption by the IRS The unaddressed scandal is that the IRS let so many of these groups get away with
    what appear to be severe violations of the law.”

    One-third of 298 set aside organization were Conservative, hardly sounds like targeting to me. It sounds like the IRS trying to do its job and making sure that people who are trying to get away without paying taxes, do not. It also sounds to me that the results of these multiple hearings are having the opposite effect. I am still waiting to hear what the organizations testifying, at the hearings, actually do for the good of their community besides political activities. To qualify for the 501(C)(4) status political activity must be less than half of your activities that other half must be connect to the good of you community and not tied to politics. The standard for 501(C)(3) are much more restrictive on political activities. The more details the less this seem like a scandal and just another wasted attempt by the radicalized right; and that is the biggest scandal and waste of your tax dollars.

    • plc97477

      The only scandal here is that most of them got approved.

  • Colt

    Hahahaha – you’re all cry babies! Especially you Burghart!

  • rustacus21

    … & of course, they absolutely MUST (ignore violations & abuses of T-baggers – which is part & parcel of ALL they are)! Otherwise, it’s the non-scandal it will inevitably turn out to be, once the smoke clears & the mirrors are all removed & we see that same shriveled-up, greedy little old man, sitting in a wheel chair w/nothing but hate & contempt for young people engaged in ‘real’ life. That in spite of how hard he & his ‘puppets’ try, they can’t break the spirit of those optimists who KNOW Democracy will triumph over their authoritarian designs & aspirations…

  • Mary Ann Hoogeveen

    The teaparty like the NRA own todays GOP!

  • cobra614

    Karl Rove and all of those Trolls who appeared before the oversight committee are about to get a rude awakening when they receive notice that they no longer are eligible for 501(C)4 tax exempt status.