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Saturday, September 23, 2017

Sandra Fluke — who became a household name when Rush Limbaugh called her a “slut” for testifying on the importance of the birth control coverage mandate — has filed papers to seek the House seat that will be vacated by Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA).

Since even Limbaugh had to apologize, conservatives moved on to another offensive attack to continue what Democrats refer to as the “War on Women:” insisting that she simply doesn’t want to pay for her own birth control — or anything. LOL.

Amanda Marcotte explained why this argument is bunk back in 2012:

This requirement simply means that all insurance plans paid for or earned by a woman have this coverage, as part of an array of preventive care services also to be covered without a copay. Some misrepresented her position, either claiming she wants the “government” to pay or “her boss,” even though the policy references benefits already earned and passed over to the employee–meaning that one’s boss is no more buying your birth control for you if you use your insurance to pay for it than if your boss is buying it for you if you use your paycheck to pay for it.

But now that Fluke is flagrantly flaunting her undauntedness by considering a political career, Republicans are back, making the same joke, over and over.

 

 

 

Some Republicans are intent on proving that they learned nothing in 2012 — when President Obama beat Mitt Romney with single women by a margin of 2 to 1 — and Sandra Fluke’s candidacy may give them the chance to do it over and over.

Do you have an example of a Republican making this lame joke? Post it in the comments.

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49 Responses to Republicans Have One Sandra Fluke Joke — And They Use It Over And Over Again

  1. But each of these men (telling that no women made these asinine comments) fully expect viagra and/or testosterone replacement therapy to be covered in thier own insurance (viagra really is the best metaphor, as it really is already covered, and just like birth control, has medical uses outside the bedroom…it was originally developed for cardiac patients as a vasodilator).

    • Tis article has nothing to do with your post?

      Sandra Fluke — who became a household name when Rush Limbaugh called her a “slut” for testifying on the importance of the birth control coverage mandate — is considering a run for the House seat being vacated by Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA).

      Since even Limbaugh had to apologize, conservatives moved on to another offensive attack to continue what Democrats refer to as the “War on Women:” insisting that she simply doesn’t want to pay for her own birth control — or anything. LOL.

      Amanda Marcotte explained why this argument is bunk back in 2012:

      This requirement simply means that all insurance plans paid for or earned by a woman have this coverage, as part of an array of preventive care services also to be covered without a copay. Some misrepresented her position, either claiming she wants the “government” to pay or “her boss,” even though the policy references benefits already earned and passed over to the employee–meaning that one’s boss is no more buying your birth control for you if you use your insurance to pay for it than if your boss is buying it for you if you use your paycheck to pay for it.

      But now that Fluke is flagrantly flaunting her undauntedness by considering a political career, Republicans are back, making the same joke, over and over.

  2. Back to the article about Fluke….This point of the article is that The GOP via Karl Rove has developed a series of “talking points” as a method of tearing down any rival by any means necessary.

    These talking points are distributed widely, and become the fodder of Fox Faux News, and GOP politicians who feed the propaganda to whomever will listen.

    This article correctly points out the propaganda.

    • I don’t subscribe to their views but it works. Until we on the left learn to craft messages in simple,every day language we give them this advantage. Yes there are complex issues and this is one, but we have to realize that the average voter wants a 5 second sound bite to begin with then if they are interested they might investigate further. Every time the right uses a simple but carefully chosen phrase the left responds with a 10 paragraph rebuttal that looks like it was written by 17 lawyers trying to inflate their hourly billing. Everyday Americans see that as the left trying to cloud the issue, not the right trying to dumb it down.

    • None, they all switched to Levitra. Bit they will tell you that is different because they take it to maintain a “quality of life”.

      • Of course. I remember now. It’s only a man’s libido that has to do with a “quality of life,” and not a woman’s.

        Thanks for reminding me, Jimmy. 😉

  3. I am concerned that with all the talk about “religious freedom” meaning the “right” of employers to deny employees insurance coverage (and even the “right” not to sign a paper letting them get it on their own) for medical procedures the employer feels to be sinful, “such as birth control or abortion,” the next step will be employers claiming to be Jehovah’s Witnesses and using the SAME logic to deny coverage for TRANSFUSIONS. How many people will die because hospitals wait to see if blood is needed so badly they can bill patients for the full cost? Or, for that matter, elective surgeries started WITHOUT preliminary blood typing just in case a transfusion will be necessary?

    This could affect a lot more than just young women on birth control, or NOT on birth control because it’s beyond their income, but their husband or boyfriend OR RAPIST doesn’t want to use it himself. It could affect traffic accident victims, hemophiliacs, patients needing cancer surgery, and many others.

    Let’s push for a Constitutional Amendment clarifying that “free exercise of religion” refers to one’s PERSONAL exercise of faith, and NOT to judging one’s employees or patients not worthy to receive necessities for their OWN lives because it offends an employer’s or provider’s religion.

    • There is a small church here that thinks medical treatment should be prayer only. They have gotten into a little trouble for letting children die. Luckily they are not big enough to be much of a employer, but if they were, their insurance policies would cover prayer only. Not worth much as far as I am concerned.

      • … and yet abortion kills more children in a single day than any religious whacko will let die through their ignorance.

  4. Those are terrible remarks about Fluke and should not happen. That just shows classless people, not a war by the GOP on women. I just don’t see a war on women. The talk about using birth control seems to be more of a religious topic, than a politicial one. You will probably find that close to a equal percentage of people in both parties oppose birth control. I wish I knew the right answer to birth control or no birth control. I doubt if any of us do. If there is a war on women, check out how much more the White House pays men than it does women for doing the same job. You may find the real answer to the war on women in the Presidents staff. Also how about a President taking advantage of a young women with stars in her eyes?

    • You came so close this time itsfun. You almost managed a rebuttal based on a logical, issue related rebuttal. Then you had to use deflection to try and paint your opposition as something you are defending your side from. It is an adult version of “I know you are but what am I”? If you would like to talk about pay disparity would you care to name someone in particular or where you deflecting the GOP’s refusal to allow the bills covering that issue to be voted on?

      • What are you talking about? The pay disparity has been on every new channel in the United States the last week. I am through doing research for you. Do your own from now on.

        • Wow, you mean the stories comparing different jobs? Or maybe the stories comparing the same job held by different people who also have different levels of experience and track records? Funny how every news source except the one owned by a certain Australian Billionaire has covered the story and found it to be misleading. As to “doing the research for you”, if you think saying something has been on the news is research you really should not comment on anyone’s level of being informed if they are over 5 years old.

    • No you probably won’t. You don’t get to pretend. The right answer to birth control is that someone else’s health decisions are none of your fuxking business. You can’t make it out like some unknowable quagmire. It isn’t. Its easy.

      It was the GOP who decided to politicize being religious. So this is on them.

      • pretend on what? I said I do not know the answers on birth control. Never said it was any of my business. And the health care train wreck is completely on the democrats.

        • You’re pretending that because there are two sides the truth must lie in the middle. No. People against birth control are just plain wrong. It’s not a mystery. You won’t find an equal split in both parties. So quit pretending that’s the case.

          If it’s none of your business, another person’s health care in fact isn’t, then shut the fuck up. Especially is your idea of a train wreck is 7 million people getting healthcare and eliminating preexisting conditions. You clearly don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • Sir you are a jerk. You seem to think you are the know all of birth control. As I said before and will say again and again, this issue is more of a religious one than a politicial one. Some religions do no believe in any kind of birth control. So those folks, no matter what party they belong to are not going to promote birth control. Personally I don’t have a side on this issue. Never said I know what is right or wrong. Never said anyone’s health care was any of my business. Your number of 7 million is a dream or a number you just made up. Try watching a news show once in a while and you will find the numbers for the obamacare tax are terrible. You don’t have a clue of what you are saying so you can just shut up. You sir are the north end of a south bound horse.

          • Don’t forget all the people who get to keep health care upto age 26 and a few other provision of the law that extend coverage beyond signing up on the website. I don’t watch the news because it’s full of shit. Apparently that’s what your problem is.

            Religion schmeligion, your beliefs don’t get to dictate other’s actions. End. Of. Story. Plenty of liberals with such religions aren’t interested in pushing their religion of others in defiance of the first amendment. That is what conservatives do. So it’s not just a religious thing. It is political.

            Call me a jerk, it doesn’t make you any less wrong.

            I can not know a damn thing about birth control, THAT’S WHY I DON’T WRITE LEGISLATION ABOUT IT.

          • You know nothing of my beliefs. I stated my opinion that I believe some folks on both sides of the issue, think birth control is a religious issue. I have in no way favored birth control, or no birth control. That is a decision for each individual to make on their own, one way or the other.
            The entire obamacare tax is based on young people paying for it. The young people that can stay on mommie and daddies plan will do so.

          • Almost every married over the age of forty who doesn’t have 20 children or more has used some sort of birth control. Guess what the rhythm method is a form of birth control. Abstinence is a form of birth control. Yes, your religion may be against birth control but unless your minister is going to pay for and help you mind your children you don’t share his view.

    • There are far, far, far too many other public examples of the gop and its obsession and absolute ignorance and misogyny that can be looked up and read/viewed for you to validly claim there is no gop “war on women”. Sorry, but the gop seems not to have gotten the memo that info is free on the internet, and the 1100 times they have put forth anti-abortion legislation can be looked up. The laws they have attempted to pass that hand down a more severe prison sentence for a woman who aborts the child that is conceived as a result of rape than the sentence (if any) handed down to the rapist himself, and on and on. Your problem is that people, especially women, can look all these things up for themselves. Including watching a Texas gop House member tell a woman that he’s sorry, but he just can’t hear women’s voices. Believe it or not women aren’t stupid.

      • No one is saying women are stupid. Putting forth anti-abortion legislation is not making a war on women. It is an effort by some that are in favor of life not death. The woman’s voice I heard in Texas was making fun of a man in a wheel chair. So it is women or democratic women or both that are making war on people in wheel chairs?

          • The Democrats are the ones that preach tolerance for all. Apparently the women democrats in Texas didn’t get the message. They have started a war on the disabled.

        • if all men had their tubes cut there wouldn’t be a need for abortion or birth-control. I suggest that the next Republican anti-abortion law should be mandatory male tube cutting.

          • Or just make the fathers pay for their children. I don’t mean just to pay a couple of hundred a month, but completely care for their children. If the mother refuses to identify the father, then no kind of help at all.

          • I prefer prevention over cure. Mandatory tube tying is cheap and extremely effective. When you marry and you want children then you can get them untied.

          • Prevention is a good idea, then we can have mandatory cutting of the men after 2 children. We can have all people on a mandatory diet of 1800 calories a day, then we can ban cakes and pies and everything the government says is not good for you. We can send all smokers to prison until they break the habit. There are all kinds of preventive measures we can take by just taking all freedoms away from the people. We can even make health care mandatory and force people to pay huge premiums and deductibles. We can spy on our citizens and threaten reporters for writing the truth.

          • The price for living in an orderly and safe society is that you have to obey some rules. My respond was to you that we should allow mother and child to starve to death and die of exposure because they refuse to id their father. Seems a bit draconian to me. So I suggest that maybe it is time for men to take some of the burden.

  5. How about the Democrats war on disabled people. Look at what the Democrats are saying about a candidate for Governor in Texas that happens to be confined to a wheel chair?

    • Nice use of the Gish Gallop technique there itsfun. Since you have no valid rebuttal to defend the right from these charges just change the issue right? Why not claim the dems have a war on Italians because Wall st execs wear Armani suits and they are trying to raise the taxes on those same execs? Makes as much sense as the defense you just tried.

      • Lets see, a republican calling a women a terrible name is a GOP war on women, but a democrat calling a disabled person in a wheel chair is OK? If the remarks make the GOP declaring war on women, then the wheel chair remarks by dems make the democrats declaring war on the disabled.

        • I congratulate your devotion to this technique. After I not only name it for you but point out it’s irrelevance to this issue you cling to it like a drowning man does a straw. But ok, since you want to go down this road we can. Who backed the Americans With Disabilities Act? Hint, it wasn’t the right. Who called the ADA over reaching regulation? Another hint, it wasn’t the left. Nice try at trying to continue your game of “I know you are but what am I”?. You told me do my own research on another post, sadly for you that research destroys your claims and exposes your hypocrisy for what it is. Keep trying though, maybe if you repeat your lies often enough someone on here might buy it.

        • but a democrat calling a disabled person in a wheel chair is OK?

          Yes, it’s okay. What’s wrong with calling a disabled person in a wheelchair a disabled person in a wheelchair?

  6. The GOP can’t get out of the pre marital sex quagmire they always find themselves in. I could bet that a lot of these republicans had sex praying that their mate was on some sort of birth control and I bet some was pre marital. This is more hypocrisy from the right wing, and even the Pope has said to give it up already and concentrate on the real issue, that of income inequality.
    Once again the clown car is on the road.

  7. One thing I wish they all had to expose, (or loose their money and power as a consequence of lying), is any sex they may have had outside the boundaries of marriage.

    “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”

    Such good Christians, ALL of them.

  8. Mental illness certainly runs rampant in the republican party. “They continue to prove that their nickname of the “crazies” is so appropriate for them.

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