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Thursday, January 17, 2019

WASHINGTON — Mitt Romney was against Bill Clinton before he was for him.

There was Romney, campaigning Tuesday in Iowa, praising the nation’s last Democratic president and casting him as far superior to the current incumbent.

“Almost a generation ago, Bill Clinton announced that the era of big government was over,” Romney declared. “Clinton was signaling to his own party that Democrats should no longer try to govern by proposing a new program for every problem.” President Obama, he said, “tucked away the Clinton doctrine in his large drawer of discarded ideas.”

So you might assume that Romney likes Clinton. But that would be wrong. Scrambling during the GOP primaries this year to explain why he had voted in the 1992 Massachusetts Democratic presidential primary for the late Sen. Paul Tsongas, Romney invoked that old GOP standby: Clinton hatred.

“In my state of Massachusetts, you could register as an independent and go vote in (whichever) primary happens to be very interesting,” Romney averred. “And any chance I got to vote against Bill Clinton or Ted Kennedy, I took.”

Now, strictly speaking, I suppose that Romney can praise Clinton now while once having voted against him. Or he can claim that while he prefers Clinton to Obama, he preferred Tsongas to Clinton. That so much of what Romney says requires such careful parsing suggests how little he feels bound by anything he has said in the past. For Romney, every day is a blank slate. Consistency, he seems to think, is the hobgoblin of losing campaigns.

There is more here than casual flip-flopping. Romney says that he likes Clinton’s view of government better than Obama’s. And it’s true that government’s share of the economy grew under Obama because he inherited a downturn and baby boomers got older.

But what about taxes? According to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center, government receipts as a share of gross domestic product rose from 17.5 percent in 1992, the year Clinton was elected, to 20.6 percent in 2000, his last full year in office. By contrast, government receipts as a share of GDP were just 15.4 percent in 2011. Which numbers make Romney happier?

The top income tax rate under Clinton, for incomes over $250,000, was 39.6 percent. Obama wants to go back to the Clinton rate. Romney wants to cut the top rate from its current 35 percent to 28 percent. Who is Clinton’s real heir?

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22 responses to “Romney’s Clintonesque Moment”

  1. William Deutschlander says:

    The ONLY thing you can count on Romney doing is slow down the economy and cause 95% of our citizens to have a moredifficult time providind the neccessities for their families.

    • DurdyDawg says:

      I personally can not understand why anyone would be content in having another Pub in office after only four years.. Short term memory perhaps? I suppose so seeing as how they accuse Obama of spending all those trillions, yes even including the one’s he inherited.. must have just fell out of the sky. Each president inherits the last president’s dirty laundry and when the laundry is presented neat and clean, the next one over-celebrates then passes his dirty laundry on with payment due.

  2. William Deutschlander says:

    EVERY, I repeat EVERY REPUBLICAN ADMINISTRATION has caused a reduction in OUR Gross Domestic Product (economy) along with more unemployment and less opportunity for the then current generation!

    This is not idle chit chat, unfortunately it is a documented, proven FACT!

    FACT the GREAT DEPRESSION (1929) and the GREAT RECESSION (2008) both were brought about by REPUBLICAN INCOMPETENCE and lack of FIDUCIARY DUTY!


    • joujou228 says:

      We can only hope, but the fact that over 48 millions Americans voted in 2008 to put Mrs Palin one heart beat from the presidency is scarry.

    • wayneonly says:

      William, I agree that the modern Republican administrations have caused a reduction in our GDP. That is because they have sought to redistribute the wealth of this nation to the very few while taxing the middle class more and more. But the whole Congress( both Republicans and Democrats) has worked to make the rich richer in the past 20 years. That is because they have all jumped on the bandwagon of the “Too Big to Fail” banks and big business. It is hard to tell the difference between Democrat and Republican when they are not exposing the “party line”. You know that politicians say one thing and do another.

      Congress no longer cares about the middle class of America. They have all found that Congress is BIG BUSINESS. There are three good books that every voter needs to read: Winner Take All Politics: How Washington Made The Rich Richer And Turned It’s Back On The Middle Class by Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson, Throw Them All Out by Peter Schweizer, and Greedy Bastards by Dylan Ratigan. They show how Congress has been corrupted by their greed and the greed of big banks and big business. And they have done this at the expense of the taxpayer.

      Congress (with the help of the voter) have set themselves up as the PERMANENT POLITICAL PARTY. They believe they are the “elite” class and are “entitled” to special privileges and are “above the law(s)” that govern the rest of us. And we (the voter) have fostered this view by voting them into office term after term. Is it any wonder they believe the “masses” are stupid? Is it any wonder the only thing they seek from us is our vote. And we are so easily led by slick ads that we can’t see their real records.

      We need to become smarter voters. We need to get Congress’s attention again. And the way for us (the voter) to get their attention is to vote EVERY incumbent Congressperson out of office when they come up for reelection. We can’t keep sending the same Congresspeople back to office who have no respect for the VOTER. They only have respect for the DOLLARS of the big banks and big business. And that is not good for the real American people. Just look at the recent bailouts. If all we are is a vote, at least let’s make that vote work for us.

    • rmarqua2921 says:

      What you say sounds good, but where do I go to get the facts you used to create your allegations?

  3. Bigspender says:

    Its really hard to find anything admirable or even respectable about Mitt Romney. About the only consistency in Romney is he’s a serial liar. If this is your idea of a quality presidential candidate, then you have a blind eye toward reality. Right wingers seem to be mired in a kind of ideaological confusion. Truth and justice have no role in the modern GOP.

  4. Frank says:

    It doesn’t matter who is more “Clintonesque” — any more than it matters who is more “Reaganesque.” We live in different times, with different prevailing socio-economic and global conditions. The Bush League made sure of that.

  5. Michael says:

    Chronic flip- flopping; thats a quality found in leadership that has no vision, incompitent and glad to be something that they are not. An outsourced leader would be of no or little use to a country whose leadership, dose not entails the high quality of expectation. Remember! Leaders are born and some are home made. The people had made that good choice 4 years ago, and I don’t think that within such period of time they would have gone blind except for convenience!

  6. sugar says:

    We do not need another millionair Presiden , like Romney!!!

  7. adriancrutch says:


  8. Oh, he is so clever. Like a fox.

  9. Patricia says:

    In the 60s & 70s the top 2% of the wealthiest Americans only owned 8% of all wealth. Now they own 40%. Of course the richest should be paying more in taxes! Who the hell in their right mind would argue with that? Oh yeah, Romney! His viewpoints scare me to death because he is going to kill the middle class if he gets his way.

  10. Andy Coon says:

    Obama had my vote until gay marriage was okay. Not that I will vote for Romney but I certainly cant vote for someone that spits in the eye’s of God!

    • holyreality says:

      A vote not for Obama is a vote for GOP hegemony.

      And seriously, who spits in the eyes of God when they gut social programs and send that dough to military contractors and billionaires?

      The President declared a position, he enacted no executive orders, ordered Congress to do anything, he just answered a question.

    • Pesos says:

      Don’t associate the Government with religion. The government is Atheist and religion does not play a role in government and never will. I’m aware that there’s plenty of people not capable of thinking for themselves beyond the bible, but at least try.

      • wayneonly says:

        Pesos, government is not atheist. The constitution says that government should not establish a religion but should allow religious freedom. Our government cannot impose religion on the people, but it is NOT atheist.

        • rmarqua2921 says:

          True, but civil rights is not a religious issue, it is non-religious governmental concept, which is part of the heart and soul of our Federal Constitution. Are you saying that gay marriage is not a civil right? the dictionary says civil rights are “rights to personal liberty established by the 13th and 14th Amendments to the U.S. constitution and certain Congressional acts, especially as applied to an individual or a minority group.” Aren’t gays people a minority group? Don’t gay people qualify for civil rights? The government remember does not adopt any specific religious ideas! Marriage as only a union between one man and one woman is a religious concept, and in many religions has not always been that way, and in some not even today!

  11. jim adams says:

    oThis was so good, i repost it here:

    PhilipTaylor 4 minutes ago Become a fan

    MlTT FL0P-FLlP HlST0RY covers the Gambit – by Elfish!

    “If you tell the truth, you don’t have to remember anything.”
    — Mark Twain


    JUNE, 2011: Believed in it.
    OCT 2011: Doesn’t believe in it.


    Raised Property Taxes and Corporate taxes AS GOVERNOR OF MASS
    TODAY: Romney opposes new taxes on Corporations or the RlCH.


    2003: Created Green Energy fund, to support alternative energy sources.

    TODAY: He opposes green-energy and criticizes Obama for supporting it.


    Romney signed the lndividual mandate as Gov of Mass
    TODAY: Romney opposes an lndividual Mandate

    5. lNDlVlDUAL MANDATE (again).

    JUST TWO YEARS AGO: Supported a Federal lndividual Mandate.
    TODAY: Romney opposes an lndividual Mandate:

    6. AB0RTl0N:

    2002: “I will preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose.”
    TODAY: Opposes


    1994: “I was not planning on signing up for the military – to serve in Vietnam.” Boston Herald.
    2007: Wishes he had served. But had a Great time in France!

    8. ROMNEY on GAY MARRIAGE (thanks elfish)

    Aug. 25, 1994. “authorization of marriage on a same-sex basis falls under state jurisdiction.”
    June 13, 2010. Supports a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage.

    9. Romney on AUT0 BaiIout

    November 2OO8 in NYT op-ed “Let DETR0lT go Ban krupt.”

    May 7, 2O12 “It was my idea.”

  12. howa4x says:

    I’m shocked and appalled that a man of such deep character as Mitt could flip/flop
    Just kidding. I would be shocked if he didn’t


  14. So this Man that many of the republicans wish to make their President that made his a fortune of as much as $250 million in the private-equity industry and supports our Country and Our troops by paying an effective tax rate of 13.9 percent on income of $21.6 million in 2010 this past year! This compares to what you and most of us would paid as working American with this same salary at the 35 percent top marginal tax rate to support our Country and our troops! And, during these republican debates, the candidates are falling over each other to see who can cut more tax breaks for these billionaires and millionaires! Can you explain this? Hum… .. something smells fishy and this does not past the smell test! Mr. Romney, and your buddies may be smart, and you can fool Middle Class Americans some of the time, but you can’t fool them all of the time, we are catching on you and all self serving political prostitutes in Washington!

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