By Gene Lyons

Sorry, Republicans — Nobody’s Getting Impeached

May 22, 2013 12:00 am Category: Memo Pad, Politics 481 Comments A+ / A-
Sorry, Republicans — Nobody’s Getting Impeached

Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear, when every jackleg news organization in Washington — that is, virtually all of them — was feeding out of Kenneth Starr’s soft little hand like a Shetland pony.

Having recently left the country for a few weeks of media deprivation therapy, I returned to find excited pundits comparing President Obama to Richard M. Nixon on the basis of three transparently bogus White House “scandals” that make Starr’s fabled “Whitewater” investigation look like the crime of the century.

Once again, the word “impeachment” is in the air, as excited GOP congressmen dream of driving a Democratic president from office. Once again, the nation appears to be headed for a fun-filled summer of televised hearings, elaborately feigned indignation, and predictions of dramatic revelations that either never materialize or blow up in their sponsor’s faces.

With luck we might even see something as funny as the day in 1995 when a partisan S&L regulator who’d planned to market Hillary Clinton-themed “Presidential BITCH” t-shirts from her government office fainted dead away under cross-examination. The witness had to be carried from a Senate hearing room, never to be heard from again.

Deeply committed to Whitewater humbug, the New York Times, Washington Post and TV networks contrived not to notice.

The good news is that couldn’t happen again. Today, the ill-fated L. Jean Lewis’s swoon would be all over YouTube, Facebook and Twitter. Sure, she’d get her own Fox News talk show, but rationally consequent citizens wouldn’t have to watch. The Internet has lessened the ability of scandal entrepreneurs in the Washington media to control the flow of information to the rabble.

Sure, the Internet empowers crackpots. But it also enables in-house bloggers like Paul Krugman and Ezra Klein to bring facts and arguments into the online pages of the high-dollar press that could be censored out of the “mainstream” as recently as the Clinton administration.

So nobody’s getting impeached on this tripartite nonsense, OK?

Anyway, let’s take them one at a time:

One: Regarding IRS “targeting” of right-wingers, I’m planning to rename my little one-man cattle operation “Tea Party Patriot Farm.” With that on my Schedule C, the IRS won’t dare to audit my tax returns. I’ll be free to deduct not only feed bills and veterinary expenses, but pizzas, movie tickets, six-packs, whatever. My recent train ride across France? Studying French cattle husbandry techniques at 180 mph.

But see that’s the thing. Contrary to a thousand indignant screeds and editorial cartoons, no aggrieved Tea Partiers got audited, fined, or jailed. Instead, they saw their applications to turn their political hobbies into tax-free scams — oops, charities — delayed for a few months, on the quite reasonable assumption (from an IRS functionary’s point of view) that an organization named for a political party might actually be one. Boo hoo hoo.

The IRS was politically idiotic, no doubt. But until somebody tracks this to the White House, it’s a big nothingburger.

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  • John Pigg

    I am of the opinion that the only scandal that could truthfully hurt the administration is the third one. However, I find it hard to believe that the Political Party that accused the Administration of leaking secrets for its own ends, is suddenly interested in the independence of the press.

    Most of these stories do well to highlight GOP duplicity in effort to gain political advantage.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000069706093 Rosemary Butt

      I agree totally John, Bengazi, how can anyone believe the POTIS would want this to happen, those who do have emotional problems. The IRS, they should be doing MORE checking out right wing organizations. they should be paying taxes. Its the POWER GRAB OF THOSE GROUPS, OUT TO RUIN THIS COUNTRY. I am now in favor of NOONE being exempt from paying taxes, including churches, probably some of the wealthiest groups. I am saddened by these ministers on TV, using peoples fear of God to make money. and as for the NEWS MEDIA, of course they are aghast, they are in a constant frenzy over anything……….. 24/7 they have nothing to talk about but what they think in their opinions of whatever. They try to get the public in a lather for ratings. How sad is the time we live in, at least we the people have a voice thru the internet.

      • JSquercia

        Wasn’t it the Republicans who cut 600 Million from the Embassy Security Budget ? I understand that the Ambassador not only did NOT ask for additional Security but actually turned it Down when it was offered

        • Canistercook

          You sure must be privy to a lot of information the rest of us can’t get!

          • JSquercia

            All you have to do is watch something other than Fox News

          • Canistercook

            And may be you need to watch fox news at times!

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          • BDC_57

            he won’t he is a lying teabagger

          • idamag

            You know, you can go back and look up transcripts on votes and who voted for what. That is not classified information.

          • Canistercook

            Only problem is we don’t know how many times they voted!

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          • plc97477

            Does that mean you can’t count either?

          • Canistercook

            Hard to count the none existent people!

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        • old_blu

          You’re right he did turn it down twice.

      • John Pigg

        Don’t focus too much on the negatives, it ain’t healthy.

        We are citizens of one of the most prosperous countries in the world. Our economy is in a lot better position than most of Europe. China is experiencing limitations upon its growth.

        Things are bad, but if you read some international publications talking about foreign policy you might realize its not as dark as it seems.

        But I like what you said just the same.

      • neeceooooo

        I agree with your comments about churches, it is disgusting the amount of money they have and the size of their buildings.

        • DurdyDawg

          The problem is the operators of those churches manipulate the system to include their personal wealth exempt as well and that’s where the crime is.. even to send their kids to church college to learn how to manipulate the system even better ALL on our dime!

      • plc97477

        We also, and more importantly, have a voice in the ballot box.

    • SteveCM

      “Why Are Republicans So Riled Up About Obama’s
      Justice Department Reading a Reporter’s E-mails When They Cheered the
      Bush Administration For Doing the Same Thing?”
      By Kurt Eichenwald – Vanity Fair, May 20 2013

      http://www.vanityfair.com/online/eichenwald/2013/05/republicans-obama-fox-news-bush?mbid=social_retweet

      • Canistercook

        Because two wrongs do not make a right!

        • SteveCM

          They certainly don’t. While you’re here, care to comment on those Republicans cheering the previous administration’s “wrong”?

          • Canistercook

            I don’t know what Republicans are cheering but I think Bush was poorly informed by intelligence on WMD’s and the Iraq invasion was a huge mistake on his part and I think his Drug program was a huge give away to the drug companies and Obamacare is a huge give away to the medical profession. So I am not a Bush cheerleader!

          • Independent1

            You really need to be enlightened about a number of things. First off, Bush was aware that Saddam did not have WMDs and his starting the war was not a mistake – attacking Iraq had been George and Dick’s intention even before the election. That’s why they had General Frank working out a plan to attack Iraq within a couple weeks of moving into the Whitehouse. I think it’s fairly clear that George had a vendetta against Saddam for having tried to have his Dad killed in a Kuwait event right after the 1st Gulf War. And both George and Dick have very strong ties to companies in the defense industry and the war would channel lots of taxpayer monies in those companies direction. Surely you don’t think it was by accident that Haliburton, Blackwater and a number of other companies especially that Cheney has close ties with got no-bid contracts. Here’s an excerpt from a 2007 article in the SALON about Bush being well aware that Saddam did not have WMDs before he started the war: (Note that Bush brushed aside the information from the CIA about Iraq not having WMDs, just like he brushed aside (intenionaly) the CIA’s 7 warnings that 9/11 was about to happen.)

            Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction

            On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

            Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIA among those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

          • BDC_57

            bush was a little puppet that fallowed cheney around like a lost puppy

          • Canistercook

            Not at this late date because two wrongs don’t make a right. I hope we can move forward and correct every and all wrongvs!
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        • http://mohammeddressup.com/ I Zheet M’Drawz

          But three lefts do!

    • Canistercook

      I am of the opinion that as long as they have the Blacks, Hispanics, welfare receivers and Union supporters it will be difficult to hurt the administration until the country collapses like Greece.

      • John Pigg

        Yeah, well they also are winning well educated young former conservatives. The GOP is also severely in trouble with conservative leaning young people.

      • idamag

        If you studied what happened to Greece, you would know they cut government services and lowered taxes. Germany, on the other hand, focused on jobs. Germany ended up lending Greece money. If we don’t want to go the way of Greece, we need to focus on jobs.

        • Canistercook

          Greeks lack of spending control and size of government were the problem and that is ours now!
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          • SteveCM

            The key issue in Greece has long been non-payment of income and corporate taxes – massive evasion is regarded as the norm. Only in that sense has government spending (i.e. relative to income) been an issue. Of course, successive Greek governments have also “cooked the books” in their reporting to the EU – it’s how they gained membership in the first place. On size, I will grant that they’ve had a long history of civil service bloat and rampant inefficiency – now painfully, slowly but surely changing.

            All in all, it doesn’t look much like the US situation does it?

          • Canistercook

            True but government employees overpaid, over pensioner and under worked so they need a heck of a lot of reform like we do!
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      • DurdyDawg

        Yeah? Well I’m of the opinion that once these welfare receivers are given the opportunity to work for a living that they will throw down the measly pittance that welfare pays and begin again to provide for their family as they once did when jobs were available, that is if there’s still a workers union to go through and as usual jobs will be open to all races. Until then we should honor those who helped make this country great by giving them aid in their time of need.. This ‘moocher’ attitude and uncaring demeanor is in itself unAmerican.

        • Canistercook

          I always found someone needed a cleaner or a hoer of weeds and they all paid me! Even sitting other peoples children pays well these days. Jobs are out there but so is welfare, foods stamps and unemployment! May be many feel they are entitled to those entitlements until the ‘right’ job happens to come along!

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  • David Turrentine

    Watergaste wouldn’t go away, Whitewater couldn’t get traction. Since truth is not sensational the IRS will be sliding around the highway until the GOP House majority is removed

    • Canistercook

      Wonder what kind of country that would leave us with!

      • old_blu

        Most of the time I like the way you say things, (even though we are opposite sides) but I don’t agree with you on this if all these people want to defend and use the second amendment and it is okay to do so, then if someone wants to invoke the fifth amendment, it’s okay with me. We can’t pick and choose the parts of the constitution we agree with and just back those.

        • neeceooooo

          Very true!

        • Canistercook

          I agree with their right to invoke the 5th amendment but the taxpayers paid for their ‘services’ so do the taxpayers have a right to know what ‘services’ they provided! Something to think about!

          • old_blu

            I’m not sure I follow what you’re saying, but I can tell you this, they can target me at anytime. And do you know why? Because I pay every cent I’m ask to and never cheat on my taxes, or use any loopholes to do them.

          • idamag

            It doesn’t scare me that I might be investigated, either, because I have nothing to hide.

          • old_blu

            Exactly! If they have nothing to hide why are they so afraid?
            Oh, I rode through Idaho one time very pretty country.

        • Canistercook

          She is entitled to take the 5 th under our laws but I hope the truth and the whole truth will come out in defense of the right to free speech that I hold dear. However there are far too many left and right wing tax free organizations these days. I think I will start one called ‘preserve free speech’ and pay myself a ‘directors’ salary of a couple of hundred a year!
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          • old_blu

            Awesome comment Canister, I’m with you on the too many tax free organizations I even think some religions go a little overboard as well. I think even if the truth does come out there are many (mostly on the far right) that aren’t going to believe it no matter how many times they look at it. Remember the birth certificate fiasco. (there are some that still don’t think that is true, like Donald T. Rump)

          • Canistercook

            Never got into the birth since I was not born here. That does not seem to be an important factor in how well one does. The far right and the far left are sure at odds. I just seek ethically,experienced, honest,leadership but unfortunately we have quite a few in Washington that are not representative of that and seek only to insure their reelection by ‘giving’ some perks to some group. Good government is hard to obtain as we see today in Greece!
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      • idamag

        A country with a government of the people, by the people, for the people, instead of a house full of corporate reps.

        • neeceooooo

          Very good

        • Canistercook

          Add “and union leaders like Hoffa ”

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          • idamag

            I know you are out of touch with reality, but Hoffa is dead. Also, Union member ship is about 37% of the entire work force. Even though I don’t belong to a union, I cannot see why we let multi-national corporations send lobbyist to Washington and frown upon the working people having a voice. Talk about a class system.

          • Canistercook

            Workers in industry should have a voice, but government workers work for me and the people should be their voice!
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        • DurdyDawg

          Then to get rid of these reps you should first get rid of the lawyers then forbid any lawyers to run for office.. It’s them and their law jargon, of which most of the planet doesn’t understand, that’s bastardizing our political system. Read just one of these ‘bills’ and you’ll understand my position.

    • plc97477

      Hopefully soon.

  • Lisztman

    And, by the way, let’s get serious. Although Bill Clinton shouldn’t have lied (or fudged) to Congress, he wasn’t the first executive, chief or otherwise, to have had someone playing around under his desk. There was no reason, in the first place, for anyone (other than, perhaps, the two participants, Hillary, and their God) to have made the big deal about the whole thing. It was another rant from the right wing, trying to “take down” a President for whom they had a dislike. Not in the same class as Mr. Nixon not only condoning, but urging, criminal behavior.

    So in reference to all these “scandals” — there truly aren’t any grounds for impeachment. That process is designed to remove the President or VP, or a SC Justice, who has been found guilty of criminal acts. None of these scandals remotely rises to that standard. Impeachment is a dream concocted by those who still can’t come to grips with the reality that their “ideals” represent a minority viewpoint — and that their preferred candidates lost the election.

    • tobyspeeks

      And most humorous about the Clinton impeachment was no less than five of the staunch republicans who were desperate for conviction were in one way or another convicted themselves. Newt Gingrich was forced to step down as speaker, Tom Delay is going to prison if he’s not already there. A few of them were caught in their own extramarital affairs.

    • suddencall

      EVERY REPUBLICAN WHO HOLDS OFFICE IN THE USA SHOULD BE IMPEACHED AND JAILED FOR PLOTTING AGAINST THE NATION , EVEN THE POPE IS GUILTY.

      • tax payer

        The Pope? You may be right because who died and chose him Pope?

        • oldtack

          You sound as though you may be from down there in Bexar County, Texas around San Antonio home of all the white spook dumb asses in Texas. There’s another one in that ares called catfish johnnie – you are definitely of the same ilk.

        • JSquercia

          Actually the previous Pope (Benedict) quit for the first time in over 600 years and then the College of Cardinals made him (Francis) Pope

      • Canistercook

        And we could welcome your new NAZI USA I guess!

        • idamag

          In respect for those who actually lived and died during the Nazi regime, people like you are so disgusting and self-centered. It is easy to throw around words and do name calling, but what do you add that is positive to our society.

          • Independent1

            idamag, Canistercook couldn’t come up with one positive thing the GOP has done for America since Teddy Roosevelt worked to develop the park system (aside from Eisenhower pushing for the interstate highway system and he wasn’t really a strong Republican). Aside from what Ike did, the GOP has done absolutely NOTHING for America in over 100 years!! A mania for implementing tax cuts, starting wars and cutting budgets that not only shortchange the upkeep of America’s infrastructure and put additional hardships on 99% of its populace IS NOT doing anything beneficial for America in Any Way!!

            I always have to wonder if people like Canistercook ever sit back and try to picture what America would be like today if the GOP had had its way over the past 70 plus years: there would be no Social Security, there would be no Medicare (and therefore no drug benefit), there would quite likely not have been any unions so Americas wages would be even lower than they are today; without the unions there would have been no pension plans (corporations balked at them from day one); there most likely would have been no 401ks created. With all these things missing that have improved peoples’s lives and retirements, it’s my vision that there would be millions more homeless wandering the streets, far fewer rich folks running around with millions of dollars (because the populace wouldn’t have been able to afford much more than a few loaves of bread on what Corporate CEOs really wanted to pay folks) and people would be lucky to be living to retirement age because they would have had little or no medical care (or the money to pay for care that they may have known they needed). I may be wrong, but had the GOP had its way over the past 100 years, America would more closely resemble a 3rd world country than the industrialized nation it has become.

          • idamag

            And since the GOP leans strongly toward state rule, there would be Jim Crow Laws, lynching, Voter suppression and God help us if we don’t have federal protection against home grown terrorists known as the KKK.

          • Independent1

            You’re so right. Thanks for the reminder. If the GOP had really had it’s way, the federal government would probably consist of just the Whitehouse for the Corporate Figurehead of the year to govern from; pretty close to what Romney was trying to set up by having a number of corporate CEOs trying to help him win the election by threatening their employees with the loss of their jobs if Obama was re-elected. Shucks with all the states doing their own thing, the country wouldn’t need Congress – just think about all the deadbeats there that would be out of a job. And maybe not even a Supreme Court – as you pointed out – the states would be setting their own laws so why would we need a SCOTUS? Why wouldn’t everything just be so simple?? A real GOP lovers dream!! America – the nation of Fiefdoms!!

    • Canistercook

      Guess in your political reality Democrats ‘fudge’ and Republicans ‘lie’!

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1362702462 Madelaine Ayers Henne

        All politicians lie! It’s the purpose for lying that bothers me! The Gop are lying to bring down a President that they have hated from day one! If you ar e lying to protect national security then I would have to go along!

        • Canistercook

          Well it’s not the GOP that is before the House answering questions so I guess their lies would not matter at this time. At least they don’t take the 5th. Wake up before it is too late!

          • stcroixcarp

            What? Do you remember an AG named Alberto Gonzoles? When questioned by congress he just couldn’t recall anything. Technically he wasn’t lying. Recall and remembering are different. He could probably remember plenty , but couldn’t recall because he was forbidden to by the Bush/Cheney regime.

          • old_blu

            Alberto! What about their Republican God i don’t recall Ronald Reagan, on Iran-Contra.

          • neeceooooo

            Good point, friend

          • Independent1

            Good morning old-blu, you didn’t ask for a list of some of Ronnie’s many gaffaws, but I love to just post them to give posters here a list of some of the many out of wack ideas and actions, America’s worst president ever managed to create in just 8 years: ( Used to think Georgie Boy was the worst ever but he created a short term devastation for the country. Reagan’s many nefarious ideas are a big reason why the GOP acts so illogically today and have done far more damage over the long term (the past 30 years) than even Georgie Boy.)

            1.First to turn America into a DEBTOR nation.
            2. First to increase DEBT faster than growth of national income in eight years.
            3. First to increase DEBT faster than growth of GDP over eight years.
            4. First to double the deficit in just eight years.
            5. First to “almost”: triple the national DEBT in just eight years.
            6. First to increase SPENDING by 80%–over 8 years.
            7. First to SPEND more in eight years than was spent in prior 50 years.
            8. First to have “real” INTEREST RATES of 8% after averaging 1% over 35 years.
            9. First to keep PRIME INTEREST RATES at 20%.
            10. First to over value the dollar to the Yen at rate of 262 yen to $1
            11. First to have served as Governor and increase spending by 112%
            12. First to have home loan interest rates as high as 16%
            13. First to cut taxes by 60% for his rich pals
            14. First to “deal” with terrorists.
            15. First to bust a union and then appoint union haters to run the department of labor which began the deterioration of the of the workplace; corporations care more now for the bottom line than doing what’s right for the people who work for them.
            16. . First to set a record for the largest one day percentage
            decline of the Dow – 10-19-87
            17. First to have over $10,000,000 increase in wealth from
            serving 8 years as president
            18. First in having servicemen killed during peacetime (241 killed while they slept in their barracks)
            19. First in Farm Foreclosures
            20.. First in Savings & Loan Failures
            21. First in percent of increase in personal bankruptcies

            .

          • old_blu

            Good morning to you my friend! And thank you for this list. Didn’t he fire the air traffic controllers as well?

          • Independent1

            You are so right – and some articles I’ve read suggest that it was Ronnie’s union busting escapades that have caused the deterioration between company management and employees. CEOs and other business heads were saying – if the president won’t negotiate with a union, why are we negotiating with them.

            If you remember back, it was during Ronnie’s two terms when companies started unloading some of their more hardworking and better employees just so they could replace them with cheaper help. And that’s gone downhill ever since, with most companies now offering no pensions, little or no 401k matches, cutting back on healthcare etc. That’s why I’m thinking now that Ronnie has done even more damage to America than Georgie Boy. (And he taught the Bushes how to spend like drunken sailors.)

          • plc97477

            Also the first to start that silliness of trickle down being so great.

          • Canistercook

            So are we moving forward or backward. Assuming you are right is this the kind of government you want?

          • Independent1

            GOP lovers have a notoriously short memory when it comes to crimes committed by Republicans. Interesting isn’t it how they suddenly have amnesia when you question them about the tons of nefarious actions of the Bush administration.

          • Canistercook

            Seems like a lot of politicians and their friends have bad memories so I guess we should praise Lerner for taking the 5th and not lying!
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          • old_blu

            There now you’re getting back to the Canister, I’ve grown to know and love. (and I mean that)

          • Canistercook

            I sometimes say something I would like to take back!

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          • old_blu

            Hahaha! Yeah I know what you’re saying I have said and done things I would love to have a do over on. : )

          • mah101

            You do realize that the House committees can investigate what they want and subpoena anyone associated with that investigation, right? And the House is controlled by the GOP, right? Do you think they are going to call Issa to testify?

          • Canistercook

            If needed I hope so!

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          • plc97477

            Don’t hold your breath.

          • idamag

            No, because the GOP didn’t have Darrell Issa, who said from day one, there were going to be lots of hearings. He searches out any reason to start one. He should not have been sent to Washington and his constituents owe the American people an apology.

          • Canistercook

            Well answering a few questions is not that hard is it!

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        • middleclasstaxpayer

          Of course Obama & co will claim “national security” as their excuse for not disclosing their crimes. It’s the perfect excuse, so plan on hearing it over & over regarding all three crimes!

          • mah101

            First, taxpayer, to be guilty of a crime there must actually BE a crime – and you don’t get to make them up just because you don’t like the person you accuse. That’s called fraud – something the House should keep in mind.

          • Canistercook

            That’s why when a crime has been committed there is something that takes place call ‘discovery’!

          • Independent1

            No crime was committed!!!

          • Canistercook

            In whose opinion the rights or the lefts!

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          • middleclasstaxpayer

            When ANY public official creates an “enemy’s List” and uses fear & intimidation to coerce behavior of those under them, these are grounds for criminal actions against them. This despicable behavior is no different than what the Nazi’s used to create fear & suppress opposition while they subjugated millions of their population. A crime in EVERY sense of the word, although when liberals do it, they expect (even demand) exclusion from the law?
            Or they believe a simple “apology” wipes the slate clean. Liberals believe they are above the law, no matter what their behavior or who they harm, as long as it’s only the opposition.

          • mah101

            You have a LOOOOOOOONG way to go before there is any evidence of anything resembling an enemies list.

            What part of legitimate but poorly designed and executed attempt at applying the law escapes you? It sure seems that that is the most parsimonious explanation for the events. You sure must need to confirm your bias if you are already invoking an Nixonian enemies list.

            Why don’t we wait for the facts before we buy the pitchforks, hmm?

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            This was an obvious attempt to “silence the opposition” as no liberal groups were similarly targeted….a true “enemy’s list.” Here’s the law on this matter:
            Intimidation is intentional behavior that “would cause a person (or group) of ordinary sensibilities” fear of injury or harm. It’s not necessary to prove that the behavior was so violent as to cause terror or that the victim was actually frightened. Therefore, it will be up to a federal judge to decide what occurred, unless of course, the IRS officials (and the Administration) are devious enough to hide & obfuscate their real motives, adding the crime of conspiracy, to the charges.

          • mah101

            If that is what you choose to believe. I, for one, will wait for evidence before deciding.

            Again, at this point all I see is a government agency poorly attempting to apply the law. And there were liberal groups targeted, the only one denied status was a progressive organization.

            So, again, I’m going to wait and see.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            They have already admitted what they did…the real questions is: Who told them to do it??? It is very unlikely that low-level staffers would institute such a dangerous & questionable tactic without approval (and encouragement) from above. It’s just a matter of how high up the food chain we will be able to go to get at the truth. And how hard this liberal administration will fight to keep us from knowing the real truth.

          • Independent1

            Better take a look at the list of the organizations being targetted: I think you’ll find that there were more liberal groups being stalled and that it was only some liberal groups that actually had their applications declined. How does that play into there being some kind of nefarious scheme against conservative groups?? Your reasoning is nonsensical which is typical for a GOP lover.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            Better reread the news reports…The IRS has already ADMITTED TARGETTING conservative groups…probably illegally. This was clearly an “enemy’s list”, something decried years ago by liberals as “un-American.” But of course, that’s only when it happens to liberals. When the shoe is on the other foot, then it’s just “business as usual” and nothing to be concerned with.

          • Independent1

            Like I just mentioned; THE CIA HAS ADMITTED TO TARGETTING A NUMBER OF GROUPS AND ACTUALLY MORE LIBERALS THAN CONSERVATIVES !!!!!!

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            We’re NOT referring to the CIA…The IRS Targeted (thru an Enemy’s List) conservative groups, which were subjected to INTIMIDATION & FEAR TACTICS designed to deter & silence these perceived opposition groups….NO intimidation was meted out to liberal groups. Once adjudicated by federal judges, the real truth will emerge, unless the Obama administration wants to add CONSPIRACY & OBSTRUCTION of justice to the charges.

          • idamag

            There is no proof of an enemy list. They just happened to be looking at some obvious violations, like not doing the paper work, and since a lot of the violations were being perpetrated by one group, they got extra scrutiny.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            You’re DREAMING…99% of their focus was on SILENCING, HARRASSING and INTIMIDATING opposition groups (an Enemy’s list). Remember when Nixon was accused of this…liberals HOWLED with indignation….these are Nazi-like tactics designed to silence & eliminate ANY resistence to the failed group in power. Only problem is Obama got caught, so now “He knows nothing.” He is so inept that he should never have been elected…he is either stupid and disconnected or a liar.

          • idamag

            I don’t belong to a party because they are destroying our democracy. You are part of that problem. I suppose if there are lists, there are also listening devices attached to the power poles and black helicopters watching your every move. Every one who throws out the word, Nazi owes the victims of the Nazis an apology. I don’t remember liberals howling with indignation during the Nixon scandals. We were one nation with two parties then. There was no outrage – only shock at what was happening. You will never understand country before party.

          • Independent1

            Mah, as I understand it, there were actually more liberal groups being targetted than conservative groups. And as you pointed out, it was only some liberal groups that had their applications declined. This whole thing is nothing more than another witch hunt (I’m not convinced that there hasn’t been some collusion (not sure I spelt that right) between a member of the GOP and the woman who reported that the conservative groups were being targetted).

          • old_blu

            John Boehner is a child molester, well maybe not really, but if I’m investigating him for it, it must be true. Right? In other words there has been no proof of a crime just an investigation, and one that makes the Republican tea party look worse and worse.

          • plc97477

            Maybe we should investigate whether or not middleclass is a crook.

          • old_blu

            He/she has to be a crook if we are investigating them.

          • BDC_57

            thats why the president approval rated is up and repugs are down.

          • Lisztman

            EXCUSE me. WHAT “crimes”?

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            This IRS scandal was no different than an ENEMY’s LIST, what liberals went berserk over when Nixon was accused of it. Obama’s IRS created an Enemy’s List by targeting Obama’s opposition. They never targeted liberal organizations, wonder why??? Of course Obama, as “commander in chief?” of the (formerly) greatest country on earth, knew NOTHING about it. Either he is grossly incompetent or a liar……I think BOTH are evident & true!

          • old_blu

            Still no crime.

          • middleclasstaxpayer

            When INTIMIDATION is used for any reason, whether to discourage or scare away donors, silence a witness, or other purposes, it WILL be found to be a crime. No different than the “enemy’s list” Nixon was accused of. WHY do you think no LIBERAL tax-exempts were harassed? Harassment & intimidation to silence opponents, just like the Nazi’s used!

          • old_blu

            ” it WILL be found to be a crime” Your words not mine IT’S STILL AN INVESTIGATION, not a crime. And they aren’t going to find anything to your dismay I’m afraid you are going to be disapointed, but I think you, the tea party, and some of the Republicans are getting pretty used to that, because you all back losers. Was it Bobby Jindal that said “we have to stop being the stupid party” I guess alot of you didn’t get the memo.

          • neeceooooo

            old_blu, you hit the nail on the head, thank you and good morning

          • old_blu

            Hello! Another day of saving the world?

          • BDC_57

            you are they are the stupid party

          • idamag

            Sorry, there was no crime committed. It is about time the IRS, protected us, the taxpayers, from organizations that find ways to get out of paying taxes.

          • neeceooooo

            You’re right, I think they all need to be investigated.

        • Canistercook

          Sounds like you would go along with anything a Democratic politician tells you!

        • Canistercook

          Sure is hard to know exactly what one is really lying for I guess so it becomes up to ones bias to decide sadly.
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      • neeceooooo

        I really don’t think you want to bring that up because with the “job well done” and “WMD” you have no room to talk.

        • old_blu

          Hahaha That’s right. Hello neece I’ve missed you on here.

          • neeceooooo

            Hi there friend, been pretty busy lately, but miss the intelligent conversation.

        • Canistercook

          Who lied about the WMD ‘s, Bush or those paid to keep him informed. I believe it was our intelligence sources that failed him.

          • Independent1

            Sorry, it wasn’t the CIA’s fault – they tried and tried to convince him that al Qaeda was planning an imminent attack on the homeland and he was determined not to listen. Seven times, that’s 7 times in 3 months in security briefings they told him about the impending al Qaeda attack and requested permission to focus on trying to stop the attack. But Bush and Cheney had sent the CIA off on a mission to find them an excuse for attacking Iraq and refused to let the CIA change its focus. After the briefing in early July, several of the CIA people involved with the briefings were so frustrated that they requested transfers. Bush so turned off the CIA that despite the 7 warnings, he embarked on the longest vacation ever taken by a president – 30 whole days away from WAshington (Nixon is the only other president to have taken 30 consecutive days off). Bush returned to Washington less than a week before the attack the CIA had warned him about happened – 9/11 with about 3,000 Americans losing their lives. (And as I pointed out to you in another post – the CIA had told Bush Iraq DID NOT HAVE WMDs – again he refused to listen.)

          • neeceooooo

            Independant1, I always love to read your posts, thank you.

          • Canistercook

            Do wonder where you get your information – comic books?

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          • Independent1

            Sorry, I don’t belong to the GOP Funny Farm – I assure you I can verify any facts that I post and I usually give reference links to where my facts come from (if you spent even 15 minutes doing some searches you’d find numerous articles based on interviews with George Tenet and the CIA staff that gave Georgie Boy the briefings) . You’re either one of the laziest posters I’ve encountered on The National Memo or just more dense than normal – or just intentionally sounding dumber than normal. Wake up!

          • Canistercook

            Wonder who briefed Blair?

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          • plc97477

            From some place besides faux news. You should try it.

          • Canistercook

            I like to get the facts not butter up my biases

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          • BDC_57

            he don’t listen to facts all he listen is fox fake news

        • Canistercook

          As an independent I have no responsibility for Bush, my choices are limited by the two overwhelming brainwashed parties!
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        • idamag

          Heavens no, the can doesn’t. Those were lies that cost lives and destroyed the economy, but since they were told by Republicans, that makes them okay. They are anything but little white lies.

      • Lisztman

        There is a HUGE difference between the size of a lie about a BJ between consenting adults — and, for instance, starting a war based on faulty intelligence (if such intelligence was, in fact, “real”).

        • Canistercook

          Wish I knew but this is another example of lack of truth and facts

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        • BDC_57

          they started that war on a lie and they already proved it

  • http://www.facebook.com/alfred.sonnenstrahl Alfred Sonnenstrahl

    Are the Republicans creating diversions by using “scandals” to distract the voters from their being pro-rich, anti-99%, anti-women, anti-health, anti-jobs, anti-unions, and anti-education, to name a few?

    • oldtack

      To answer all of your questions.

      Right on! You’ve got it pegged.

    • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

      Better Wake Up Everyone You Know And Vote These Thugs Out Of Offices!!!

      • tax payer

        Americans are too dumb to realize what is going on or maybe they are glued to their Soap Operas to know we are getting the shaft in Congress. Their children will find out ( an illegal ) will have first Preference in a job they thought they had a chance to get, bur failed to do so thanks to Congress.

        • tax payer

          The damage has been done, so they should have been voted out the last election.

          • JSquercia

            They kept the house in spite receiving a million fewer votes thanks to the Republican controlled state legislatures gerrymandering the district lines . A warning to Dems in 2014 off year elections MATTER .

            Sadly I would not dismiss the chances of Impeachment by the House . It would end just like Clinton with acquittal by the Senate but their hatred for Obama is such that I can see it happening .

          • neeceooooo

            But their hatred for the President has nothing to do with his ability to perform his duties, it is the color of his skin.

          • Canistercook

            get over it!

          • old_blu

            Really? Canister that’s all you have?

          • Canistercook

            It is al that is needed!

          • Sand_Cat

            Yes, you seem to think your denial is all that is needed. But is that really true? If so, why are you and friends here day after day after day trying to convince yourself by trying to convince us.

          • BDC_57

            which will never happen I don’t listen to lying people like canistercook teabagger

          • Sand_Cat

            Why? You and your racist party haven’t. The “race card” is the most feared and hated Republican bugaboo and an effective political tactic because pretty much everyone – especially including the targets in their very rare moments of coherence – knows deep down that it’s still largely true, far more than any of us would really like it to be. “Land of the free” still has a hollow ring to it so long as people in this country refuse to admit to it and genuinely repent and try to do better, and no one is better at avoiding those actions than the Republican party.

          • Canistercook

            Not sure what I have to ‘repent’ from!

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          • Sand_Cat

            Who, the Republicans? I agree!

        • CrankyToo

          Call this a wild-ass guess, but I’m thinking, since you annoy us under the handle “tax payer”, that you’re a Tea Party lizard. One of those folks who thinks that only he and those like him pay taxes. And, of course, the other 47% of our fellow citizens are just sucking the life out of the economy.

          There’s not a hint of fact in your two-sentence diatribe, just a strong odor of zenophobic ignorance and hyperbole.

          First, you need to understand that all Americans pay taxes, and the poorest among us typically pay higher taxes, as a percentage of income, than those of us who are more affluent and thus able to contribute more. There’s nothing fair or righteous in that.

          Secondly, the Congress you love to hate is the same one I love to hate, the one controlled by a majority of Repugnicans in the House and, astonishingly, a MINORITY of Repugnicans in the Senate. Neither of these august bodies is willing or able to enact legislation which might actually help our people and move us forward out of this miasma. The dirtbag Repugnicans in the United States Congress shamelessly disavow their oaths and thumb their noses at us, quite content to neglect and even inflame the problems which have become so burdensome to us – because the alternative is to do something which might be perceived as helping our President to govern righteously.

          And why is that? Because they despise the man – our rightfully, legally, constitutionally elected leader. And since all he’s ever done his entire political life is work to advance and improve our American society, there’s only one reason to hate him. He’s black. Of course, the wingnuts whine with indignation whenever someone points to their bigotry, but there’s no other possible explanation for their rabid disdain of our President. They just can’t abide the idea of a black man in the White House.

          You folks I’m talking about know who you are. And you ought to be concerned because if there’s a heaven above and a hell below, if God is the King of man, you’re going to be judged one day, and you’re going to know His wrath. There’s no way to reconcile a love of God with a hatred for Barack Obama, or for immigrants or homosexuals. You’re not a Christian just because you can recite some scriptures because speaking the word of God is not the same as hearing it.

          If I’ve got you pegged all wrong, then please accept my humble apology, and forget everything after “hello”. But if you’re a Tea Party dumbass, you need to STFU because you’re one of the morons who’s part of the problem rather than part of the solution.

          P.S. And quit voting for Repugnican nutjobs. This ain’t rocket sugery.

          • Canistercook

            Unfortunately though the country would collapse if the ‘rich’ did not pay the lions share of taxes versus the benefits they require!

          • Independent1

            I seriously doubt it – a large percentage of the rich already end up paying ZERO taxes as do a large portion of corporations: more than 300 of the Fortune500 companies pay ZERO taxes in any given year. And many of the rich millionaires actually finagle their returns so they get refunds even when they make millions in a year – Mitt can teach you how to do that.
            And your comment that suggests they don’t get many benefits is pure nonsense – Rich peope overtax the environment and everything associated with living in a society; they own multiple huge homes creating multiple times the polution of an average citizen; they own and drive more cars and can afford to travel more creating multiple times more polution and deterioration of the planet; many of them get their money from companies that put huge demands on the country’s roads via trucking, postal delivery, etc. Demands far in excess of an average middleclass taxpayer. They deserve to pay every cent of the taxes that they’re being asked to pay without trying to find ways to get around doing their fair share like Apple has recently been caught doing.

          • Canistercook

            Sound like you must be an IRS employee as you seem to know so much about the income and taxes of the rich and corporations. I unfortunately only know Romney and obama both made a lot of money last year and both paid the legally due taxes on their incomes.
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          • tax payer

            The poor are here to stay because the tax payers ( not the Government ) support them and as long as we pay taxes the poor will stay poor, so they can leech off the tax payers. I voted against Obama and I am glad he can’t be selected President once he leaves office. I wouldn’t be too surprised, if he tries to run for another term, but it won’t happen thanks to Satan.

          • CrankyToo

            Trying to reason with a demented person like you is like trying to pack butter up a bobcat’s ass – with a red-hot curling iron.

            Do you know why President Obama will not run for president again? The answer to that question has nothing to do with your buddy Satan. He will not run for reelection because the 22nd Amendment to the United States Constitution, which was ratified more than 60 years ago, prohibits him from doing so.

            I reckon I did peg you correctly a couple hours ago – you are indeed a Tea Party dumbass. But keep up the good work, knucklehead, because you’re assuring the self-destruction of that evil entity known as the GOP (satan incarnate).

          • tax payer

            Do you feel better now? Saying what comes to your mind shows me you sure do get mad about something that doesn’t bother me. I love to go to the circus, so when the President comes to our city I will be sure to be there to get my laughs. Are you trying to tell me you’re a Bobcat and can’t find any butter to plug your gas blower?

          • CrankyToo

            Seriously, tax payer. I don’t want to hurt your feelings, but you need to proof your posts before you hit the “send” key because nothing coming out of your keyboard makes the slightest bit of sense.

          • tax payer

            When a man has a cold heart like mine there is no way you can hurt my feelings. Others have tried, but never succeeded, so they gave up. I always had a response for them and it blew their minds.

          • idamag

            Ah, we are getting to know the real you.

          • tax payer

            You have met a person that isn’t ( a yes man ) I’ll do it. I am not a puppet like those in Congress that Obama controls and there must be many like me, but they keep a low profile since they know people don’t care to have them being against the President.

          • idamag

            You are about as far out of touch as any nut can get. I do not believe in parties because of people like you and your religious adherence to a party. Obama has not had control over congress. Do you ever watch anything but faux news? This is known as the most obstructionist congress in history. Even though you will never study anything and be aware of that, People like me, and the Independents are not seeing what is happening through our bias filters.

          • tax payer

            Yawn! I just woke up and now I have to read this. I think I’ll go back to sleep. Independents ne ver win. The clowns that run every four years against a Democrat and a Republican will always lose, and they are Independents just like you. I am a Conservative and I vote only for White Candidates, so that must make me a Racist too, so ask me, if I care.

          • CrankyToo

            You’re a helluva man. A legend in your own mind…

          • tax payer

            We can talk and talk, and be like those that stay in a circle and ne-ver try to improve their situation, so that’s why the poor stay poor because they don’t want to leave the gravy train.

          • plc97477

            Go ahead we are waiting.

          • tax payer

            You are waiting for the Heat to be NBA Champions again. I am too.

          • plc97477

            In other words you are not going to be able to blow my mind with the best response ever. Not that I expected you to be able to.

          • Independent1

            What you’re saying is that you know you’re a worthless human being and there’s no sense in trying to make anything worthwhile out of a POS.

          • tax payer

            So, how much do you earn Digging Ditches? I know I am worth more than you, so who’s worthless now? You must earn minimum wage for sure and a parasite off the tax payers too. I won’t tell you how much I am worth because it would make you faint, but I am in the Middle Class, if you really want to know. POS yourself.

          • plc97477

            The way I see worth is how many people are going to give a shit when you die. You can’t take it with you.

          • neeceoooo

            love your response

          • CrankyToo

            Cheers!

          • neeceoooo

            and to you as well

          • idamag

            And these dumbasses do not realize that society creates the 47%. He is just as responsible as anyone for the birth of this child called welfare recipient.

          • BDC_57

            good one

          • tax payer

            You know the poor pay sh-t in taxes. They get a big tax return because they breed too many children and the tax payers have to feed them. As long as we don’t have a Hispanic as President in my lifetime I’ll be happy because he may bring the whole country of Mexico to the USA.

        • Canistercook

          They get their politics from Jon Stewart!

          • neeceooooo

            And you get your politics from Bill OReilly, Glenn Beck or Ann Coulter.

          • Canistercook

            No! From CNN, Fox News, the London Daily Telegraph, the BBC etc., all of which have different viewpoints some of which I agree or disagree with.

          • neeceooooo

            And that is the same place we get our news from minus “Fox”, Jon Stewart is entertainment.

          • old_blu

            So is Fox.

          • neeceoooo

            true

          • Canistercook

            Don’t care for Ann Coulter, never listen to Beck or Limbaugh and sometimes watch Jon Stewart! Many media personalities slant articles towards favoring their party affiliation unfortunately.
            That is why one needs to watch and rationise them all!

          • neeceooooo

            On that, we have to agree. You have to take news from many sources and be intelligent enough to pick out what is the slant and what is not.

          • Canistercook

            Just hope all those blacks, Hispanics, welfare recipients and union members Are smarter than me. We need intelligent government right now!
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          • neeceoooo

            And why do you lump the blacks, Hispanics, welfare recipients and union members all in the same category why can’t they just be people regardless of their financial status, race, or work history.

          • Canistercook

            Because the majority of those groups voters for obama and I believe are leaning towards a very socialist society and having lived with socialism I do not want to again.
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          • neeceoooo

            So you are saying that the 50+ people who voted for Barack Obama, are socialist, I take offense to that remark.

          • Canistercook

            Either socialists or they want green cards for relatives, welfare, disability, food stamps, union pensions at 55 and all the perks Obama stands in favor of.
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          • Sand_Cat

            Yes, like all the trolls here, you just can’t conceive – or admit to conceiving of – someone’s disagreeing with you unless he/she is a freeloader doing so for some ignoble, selfish motive (a little projection operating here?) or – even worse – because he / she is a lazy, stupid, ignorant [insert name of racial or ethnic group here]. No possibility that someone might be an intelligent person who looked at the options and thought about it, and decided not to support the party of the racist xenophobes, the delusional, and the ignorant (often willfully so).

          • plc97477

            Actually studies have shown that the dems are as a group more intelligent.

          • mrivera1119

            Please keep this up so people can look into the typical GOP mentality. That’s the easiest way of commiting political suicide, just ask Willard.

          • Canistercook

            The reason I read and get involved is this gives me a window on how far we have drifted to the left and how many now rely on the ‘government’ (in other words the working public taxpayers) to prop up our failing systems. SSI was intended as a ‘retirement aid’ and is now a welfare system, Medicare is an expensive gift to the medical profession, the drug program is an expensive gift to the drug companies, and Obamacare is an expensive gift to the medial society along with a gift to those who contribute little of use to society. Guess we will need a lot of little red hens to lay eggs to pay for it all. Trouble is a lot of those little red hens are fighting back and call themselves members of the Tea Party which upset the lefties quite a bit I guess and they decided to ‘punish’ them using their ‘power’. Really scary if one believes in free speech!
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          • mrivera1119

            Just proved my point. Thank you.

          • Canistercook

            Your ‘point’ or your ‘bias’

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          • mrivera1119

            Keep drinking your Foxy tea and let the reasonable people have a good laugh.

          • Canistercook

            Too bad for you fox has a heck of a lot of smart people watching it these days!
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          • Independent1

            You’re right about blacks, Hispanics and union members being significant voting blocks for Obama, but you’re way off the mark on those collecting welfare. People on welfare voted overwhelmingly for Mitt Romney. The biggest block of welfare takers in America are residents of states run by the GOP. All ten of the states that get more than $2 in federal aid back for every dollar they pay to Washington in taxes are Red States. 21 of the 23 states in America that have more than 15% of their residents living below the poverty level (and therefore eligible for welfare) have GOP leaderlshp. More than 70% of Americans that use food stamps are residents of (you guessed it) Red States. Every, and I repeat every GOP run state sucks more federal aid dollars than they send to Washington in the way of income taxes. It’s actually about a dozen states that voted for Obama that get less than $1 back for each tax dollar they send to Washington (NJ for example on ly gets .61 cents back) are the states that are actually supporting the country. Mitt’s so clueless that he wasn’t even aware that when he denigrated the 47% of people who don’t make enough to pay taxes, that by far the largest group within that 47% are, you guessed it, Republicans whose votes he needed to win the election.

          • Canistercook

            People living in rural areas tend to be poorer than other areas so!

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          • Independent1

            With that nonsenical comment I’m getting more convinced that you and Angelsinca, and maybe even Lana Ward are either the same person, or your operating out of the same operatlion room – like you’re trolls involved with the RNC. You’re really not worth responding to.

          • mrivera1119

            And Republicans wonder why they are the laughinstock of the country? How hard is to use a dictionary? They obviously have no clue of what socialism entitles. They use the word just to insult but the result is actually comical.

          • Sand_Cat

            Because Canistercook belongs to the party that does that, despite his steadfast denials.

          • Independent1

            I wouldn’t count on it. I’m sure you’re aware that Texas is big these days in creating jobs. Rick Perry has gimmicked the budget in Texas so he’s subsidizing new businesses like crazy which are bringing in suckers like crazy to the state that’s really the cesspool of the nation – you’d be hard pressed to find a state that fails in almost everything except creating low paying jobs. Take a look at some stats on Texas and then see if you don’t ask yourself: “Why in the world would anyone want to move to a place that rates so low on almost any measure you can come up with”” (And remeber, Texas is supposed to be a shining light of GOP run states.)
            ·
            Texas is 49th in the country in tax revenues collected per capita and 50th in revenues spent.
            .It’s 44th in tax progressivity, which means it collects most of its taxes from working people and it comes in 50th in the percent of its population that have a HS diploma.
            .It ranks 46th in the overall SAT scores it’s students get on entrance exams; and 49th in what it pays its teachers.
            .It ranks dead last (50th) in having the most people without health insurance and also dead last in the number of children covered by insurance.
            .Its 49th in the support it provides to women & children in the WIC program, and it leads the nation in teenage births.
            .It ranks 6th in the nation in the number of people living in poverty and 50th with regard to the affordability of homeowners insurance.
            .Texas ranks 45th in the overall health of its population and 47th with respect to mental health.
            .The quality of the highways in Texas is ranked 42nd and its parks and recreation facilities are ranked 48th and environmental protection 46th
            . Police protection is ranked 49th and government administration 50th.
            .Texas comes in 3rd in the nation in the number of public officials that are convicted for a crime; while being dead last in the percent of voters who turn out for elections.
            .It’s 46th in the hourly earnings of its workers and 48th in the payout of worker’s comp benefits.
            .And Texas ranks as having the most polluted environment in the nation because of all the oil spills and refineries and coal fired power plants spewing toxic smoke.

            By what other measure does Texas have to turn up close to last before people realize that by moving there they’re simply moving to what is really the cesspool of the nation. And I’m also amazed, that with a dismal record like the above, Rick Perry would even consider running for president of the US???

          • Canistercook

            Gee you sure know the facts or at least make them up

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          • Independent1

            Sorry, as I mentioned earlier – I’m not a member of the GOP Funny Farm – I don’t make up posts, it’s all Facts!! I’m not like Bachman, Beck, Limbaugh and virtually every other Republican that’s in the news who appear to go out of their way to make up conspiracy theories, distortions and lies . I’m sure that there may be some sensible Republicans in Congress but they sure don’t get into the news. If you spent 5 minutes and did a few searches you’d come up with all the facts I just quoted from very reputable sources (like even the Texas government).

          • Canistercook

            Guess we have yet to see what are distortions and theories. I like just the facts please!
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      • old_blu

        You’re are right Fern they can’t win unless they cheat and lie, all these “scandals” are just a way to try and recruit more of the uneducated voters, I’m not sure there are enough of them to help them this time, even the slowest of them have to be able to see through this, you would think.
        And good to see you my friend it’s been awhile. : ))

      • tax payer

        That’s what they are since the first day they entered office and a removal is in order to vote them out. Especially the H-s-a-i-s in Office.

      • idamag

        Ye4s, Fern, you are absolutely right. I am not a Democrat, but people, like Middle class taxpayer makes Republican a bad word to me.

    • Canistercook

      You sure ‘love’ your party!

      • BDC_57

        it’s better than your party

    • AttilatheBlond

      Issa knew about the IRS targeting groups that have political names way back before last fall’s election. Suddenly it’s BIG NEWS now? Of course it is. Gotta divert attention from the fact that the deficit is way down (without cutting Social Security) and the stock market is way up. Can’t let the people slip out of outrage gear and notice the real outrages, all those things about the GOP you pointed out.

      • Independent1

        Great assessment! The GOP also needs to keep people’s minds off the hardships that the Sequester is causing a lot of people who really need help. I think the GOP is hoping all this hoopla about the IRS will keep stories on the effects of the budget cuts buried behind alll the noise they’re making now.

    • Leftliesandfalseargument

      No Pro liberal government workers admitted to improperly targeting US citizens.

    • plc97477

      If they think this is going to help them be not “the party of stupid” I am afraid it is not going to work.

  • RSDrake

    When you read the Treasury IG Report, you will find that the conservative PACs (e.g Tea Party … ) frequently violated the terms of reporting as a 501 (C) 3 and 4 tax exempt organization and deserved scrutiny. As Scott pointed out, these organizations probably have a free pass now because IRS employees were diligent in the pursuit of these organizations and now fear reprisal. A few got fired before the facts came out. Here are a few of the violations:

    The First Coast Tea Party Inc. of Jacksonville, Florida, for example, which applied for 501(c)(4) status in 2009 and received it in 2011. Commenting about the recent IRS controversy on Facebook, the group declared that we file a tax return, account for every penny. We do not endorse candidates, that is a no no. Yet the First Coast group has boasted about directly helping Republican campaigns. In an August 30, 2012 Facebook post, for instance, the group advertised a Jacksonville rally for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and his vice-presidential nominee Paul Ryan, adding, “bring your chairs and your signs, make sure they know that the First Coast Tea Party is and has been helping their campaign.

    Three weeks later, the same group declared a state of emergency on Facebook, pleading with supporters to campaign for Romney: FLORIDA FRIENDS, IF YOU LIVE IN ANY OF THESE 3 COUNTIES GET OFF THE COUCH NOW, GET YOUR FRIENDS OFF THE COUCH. GET TO THE REPUBLICAN HEADQUARTERS AND OFFER AND THEN DO SOME WORK. PHONES, (YOU CAN EVEN DO THESE CALLS FROM HOME) AND WALK AND KNOCK. NOW. WE CANNOT LOSE FLORIDA TO OBAMA.. NOW. THIS IS MOST CRITICAL [emphasis in original]. These werent posts from some random supporter on the groups Facebook page; they were posts from the official account of the organization.

    Similarly, the IRS granted 501 (c)(4) tax-exempt status to the Louisville Tea Party in 2009. The same group published a list of officially tea party endorsed candidates for the 2011 Kentucky primary. They also published an article headined The Rationale for Romney-Ryan, arguing that Tea Partiers should vote for the Republican candidate.

    Then there is the Katy Tea Party Patriots, which filed for 501(c)(4) status in 2009. This group actually ran an ust Obama 2012 campaign, organizing block-watching with the Fort Bend GOP and phone-banking against Obama at GOP headquarters in Sugarland and Houston, Texas. Still featured on the front page of the groups website is an October 4, 2012 article titled Our Country Future, by Katy Tea Party Patriots president Darcy Kahrhoff, who urged members to vote for Romney. Please take time to talk with friends and family you may have living out of state, and try to convince them to vote for Governor Romney, especially if you have friends and family in Florida, Colorado, or Ohio. Also, find a Senatorial candidate to support in these states, and go to FreedomWorks to phone bank for these patriots. Everything you can do to help will matter. We can, and we must, win this!

    Not to be outdone was the Central Valley Tea Party Inc., a regional California Tea Party group that won the much more politically restrictive IRS 501(c)(3) tax status in 2009. It should be noted that 501 (c)(3) status explicitly prohibits any partisan political activity.Under the Internal Revenue Code, as the IRS explains, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. The prohibition applies to all campaigns including campaigns at the federal, state and local level. Violation of this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes.

    Despite its 501 (c)(3) designation, the Central Valley Tea Party group appears to have been involved in partisan political activity. Currently, the front page of the group website features upcoming events instructing members to Volunteer for Measure G and Volunteer for Vidak for Senate. In the latter case, the website simply instructs
    members: Please volunteer to do phone banking or precinct walking to help win the election.

    Further stretching IRS regulations, the same group newsletter endorsed and advertised conservative candidates. In an article in the October, 2012 issue of the Central Valley Tea Party Times headlined Why You Should Be Excited to Vote for Mitt Romney Paul Szopa told fellow Tea Partiers to get out and campaign for the Republican presidential candidate. So its time to get excited to vote for the better candidate. Its time to talk him up to friends and family. Is time to join with groups like Operation Swing State (www.operationswingstate.org) and make calls in support of his candidacy. Published on the front page of the newsletter was a Voter Guide that seemed even less ambiguous, listing all the candidates that the group recommended as well as their positions on all of the ballot measures.

    The newsletter also featured advertisements for conservative candidates.
    The April-June, 2012 edition of the Central Valley Tea Party Times carried an ad for Whelan for Congress on page 27, another for Frank Bigelow for the 5th District California Assembly seat on page 38, and an ad Elect Richard J. (Rick) Farinelli, Madera County Supervisor District III on page 39. The newsletters August-September, 2010 edition featured an ad for Diane Lenning, a write-in candidate for California Superintendent of Public Instruction; so did the October-November, 2010 edition.

    Another Tea Party group granted the 501(c)(3) non-profit status by the IRS, is the Tifton, Georgia-based Tiftarea Tea Party Patriots, Inc., which received the designation in 2010. This group too appears to have engaged in openly political activity, including publicly endorsing candidates. On October 9, 2012, in a post on its website “Are you ready to vote?” the Tiftarea group strongly endorsed Romney: The choice is simple.

    Do you think the IRS ought to look the other way on stuff like this?

    • RSDrake

      Maybe we should rename it the “Tea Party Scandals?”

      • Canistercook

        And the Democratic party be renamed ‘The Oboma bummers’.

        • neeceooooo

          You know, if your comments weren’t so racist, bigoted and ugly we might take you seriously.

          • Canistercook

            Don’t know how you incorporate ‘racism’ into my comments, guess you had to work at it! I was fortunate enough to grow up in a society where no one regardless of the color of their skin or race was forced to sit in the back of the bus and I am thankful for it, but I think that gives me the right to criticize an egotistical, inexperienced politician whose only real strength seems to be making big speeches to non-tax paying students of how we should ‘attack the rich’ many of whom work very hard and are very productive.

          • neeceooooo

            Like the Mitt Romney’s of the world, right.

          • Canistercook

            Right!

          • Sand_Cat

            Except to bigots such as you, your posts themselves positively SCREAM “RACIST.” No one needs to incorporate anything that’s not there in abundance.

          • http://www.facebook.com/rich.keeler2 Rich Keeler

            Really… hate to re-visit this, but “does it hurt being stupid?”

          • idamag

            I don’t usually reply to you, but I have a good memory and I remember you making some racist comments before the election.

          • BDC_57

            He is still mad that he lost

          • CPAinNewYork

            What were they?

          • charleo1

            Well, it’s very nice we settled seating protocol on public
            transportation. But, if that is what you’re using to declare
            The United States to be in a post racial period, or even the
            election of an African American to the office of President of
            the Country. You are very mistaken. Otherwise, the usual
            disagreements of political philosophy between the two poles,
            would have remained, just that. And not the kind of dog
            whistle, racially laced, personal attacks, this President has
            been forced to endure. Even as he struggled with a mountain
            of serious, and urgent, fiscal, domestic, and foreign policy
            challenges, not of his making. But dropped upon his
            Presidency, from the previous administration, like a ton
            of bricks. And, there might not be cause to read into the
            Right’s near unanimous opinion, and universal, concern
            of what they judge to be President Obama’s, egotism, or arrogance. If the previous President had not spent a good
            deal of his Presidency, preening, and chest thumping.
            Heroically landing on aircraft carriers, to declare victory
            in a war, that continue beyond his Presidency, for another
            7 years. Now, that’s egotism my friend. To say, as you do,
            his ability is limited to giving speeches, to unimportant non- tax paying, students. Is to first reveal, you haven’t been paying any attention to what your President is saying in
            those speeches. Or realize, those non-tax paying, students,
            will be voting for the next President, before some realize,
            just how important they actually are. And all the hand ringing
            over whether the rich will be alright. Or if some of the political rhetoric may have hurt their feelings, didn’t help your comment out, one bit.

          • Canistercook

            Wonder who the ‘we’ is!

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          • sassysticks

            So you didn’t grow up in America? Black Americans had to sit n the back of the bus in America at least until 1956!

          • idamag

            And, until Life Magazine decided to investigate, murder was legal in the South if it were a Black man who was murdered. In Mississippi they burned crosses and lynched on Saturday and passed the plate in the Southern Baptist Church on Sunday. Yes, it was the Democratic Party that pushed these terrorist attacks or at least looked the other way. Well, the Southern Republicans weren’t speaking up either. Then a Democrat, Lyndon B. Johnson signed the civil rights act into law and the south went Republican. The Taliban probably could have learned a thing or two from the deep south.

          • suddencall

            You got your parties and your rich bigots mixed up ,Republicans wore the hoods .

          • BDC_57

            shut up you racist teabagger troll

          • CPAinNewYork

            All too often, the rich are a pack of leeches.

            Between their tendency to corrupt anything that they touch.and their aggravating sense of entitlement, they comprise an unappealing group.

          • Canistercook

            Guess you must live in a high income area and know a lot of the ‘rich’ like Bush, Biden, Clinton and the obama’s as you seem to know a lot about them and what they do!
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          • CPAinNewYork

            Right.

          • idamag

            I think we have some members of the KKK on here. If the only thing a person can brag about is the color of his skin (and that is not an accomplishment) then he or she has a pretty sad life.

          • neeceooooo

            Thanks, you are so right

          • Leftliesandfalseargument

            Name callers, nice and mature

          • Canistercook

            Wonder where you learned those adjectives!

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    • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

      They need to do away with the 501(c)4 tax exempt status and make it ensure that each 501(c)(3) is evaluated carefully and meets the criteria that they are an organization or group . “To be operated exclusively to promote social welfare,
      an organization must operate primarily to further the common good and
      general welfare of the people of the community.”

      This should apply to any Republican, Democratic, Independent and Libertarian Groups and/or Organizations.

      • http://www.facebook.com/robert.robertson.sr Robert P. Robertson

        Yes! I second that emotion!

      • oldtack

        I agree. We have a 501c3 Organization. We send socks and toiletries and supplies to our Troops in the War zones and we work with the VA Hospitals on PTSD and other patient disabilities and work with parents and spouses of these wounded Troops.
        .
        We have to keep meticulous records of monies and expenditures and we are required to submit an Annual report to the IRS. We are also required to supply donors with receipts for tax purposes and we keep records by name of all who contribute.

        Political based 501c4’s are not required to disclose donors nor amounts.

        That is one more reason the entire 501 system needs to be revamped.

        • stcroixcarp

          Our 501c3 runs a local food shelf. We have to account for all donations and food that we give out. We are not allowed to politic and we may not discriminate by race, religion or sexual orientation. It took almost a year to get the 501c3.

          • oldtack

            It took us about six months but we had a good experienced person to guide us with the application and paperwork. With the backlogs and a lot of fraud 6 months to a year isn’t out of the ordinary. IRS needs an overhaul to clean the slates and stop the fraud so honest people can operate as specified in the law.

          • David Nova

            the main ‘overhaul’ IRS needs is to hire enough workers. apparently only one person was available to evaluate all the 501c(4) applications, so of course she tried to devise the most efficient methods she could. but they can’t hire more people without congressional authorization and funding….

          • oldtack

            This is a classic “Catch 22″ Withhold the “tools” one needs to complete a task then “punish” the individual for mistakes.or failure to do every thing required.

          • CPAinNewYork

            This is your government at “work.” From the lowest to the highest levels, government is burdened with incompetent boobs who couldn’t or wouldn’t get a job in industry.

          • BDC_57

            Yeah they keep defunding these programs. So the black guy loses

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1731174201 Betty Caron

            And in fact Congress keeps cutting staff and won’t reform the tax code.

      • Canistercook

        That is the law, may be they should obey the law!

        • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

          I agree they should obey the law, including those who are awarded a 501(c)4 tax exempt status. Here is the link to an article that discusses some of those abuses by those who are tax exempt. I realize there are groups and/or organizations on both sides of the aisle who are receiving these tax exempt status and the applications should have been denied.
          http://www.nationalmemo.com/the-tea-party-the-irs-scandal-and-the-actual-facts-of-the-case/

          • Canistercook

            A voice of reason in a sea of bias. The rules should be very clear and clearly obeyed.

          • Canistercook

            Unfortunately they admit they did not obey the law and that was intended to curtail freedom of speech. Truly a sad day in our country.
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      • Canistercook

        It is supposed to apply to all! Why didn’t it? That is the question we need answers to!

        • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

          I agree.

          • Canistercook

            Sure is getting hard to get the facts these days. Wonder if one can take the 5th when the IRS calls one in for an audit!
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          • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

            The legal analysis on the talk shows are saying because of the pending Justice Department investigation, she would have to take the 5th.

        • David Nova

          it did apply to all:

          ‘Of the 300 applications given special scrutiny, only 70 involved right leaning political groups.’

      • plc97477

        And stop apologizing for doing their jobs. Just because someone complained that it was inconvenient.

      • David Nova

        should they also do away with 501(c)(5) thru (29)? each of the 29 categories has a separate domain. (c)(3) is already a very broad category. what’s the point in making it bigger and broader?

    • oldtack

      he roots of the 501c4 trace back to the Revenue Act of 1913 also known as the Underwood Tariff Act.
      There was no provision for exemption for civic and commercial organization. Backed by the National Chamber of Commerce they pushed for enactment of exemptions for these groups. They wanted this provision to” patch up” a perceived gap in the law and carve out exemptions for Organizations which could not qualify as Charitable, Educational or Religious but whose activities somehow benefited the general public.

      Over the years the IRS expanded the exemption into political territory allowing 501c4 Organizations to engage in lobbying and other political activities. This expansion occurred in the mid-1950’s under the Administration of Eisenhower.

      When the Supreme Court removed the restrictions on private donations to political campaigns the IRS was deluged with applications from political based groups from all sides of the political spectrum.

      There was plenty of cause for consternation and close scrutiny because of scams and violations (Both Sides)

      This present situation exemplifies the urgent need to examine and revamp all 29 categories of 501c Organizations and all other loopholes in the tax system.

      • CPAinNewYork

        Whom do you nominate for that task? Perhaps, since you are so interested in the subject, you should take on the task of “cleaning up” the whole issue of non-profits taxation.

        • oldtack

          That is a good question for all on the forum. A look at all of the 501c’s and what each contains is mind boggling. Just dream up a cause and make an application and you will probably get it under one of the 29. And some have had several additions to the original intent. Example: Tax exempt status for Religious Institutions – originally it covered places of worship and now it covers everything from health spas to Nursing centers to all homes owned by any “Pastors, Leaders etc.
          Couldn’t have this done by any of the political scum in congress. It would have to be an outside source.
          This needs to be done to every Government Program.

          • CPAinNewYork

            Go to it. Whenever Congress gets involved, which is often and certainly annually, the Internal Revenue Code just gets more complicated.

            It’s now 73,000 pages long.

    • Canistercook

      Suggest you take a look at ACORN and the NAACP!

      • Siegfried Heydrich

        You ARE aware that ACORN hasn’t existed for several years? Oh, that’s right . . . conservatives live in the past. My bad.

        • Canistercook

          Only because we found out what liberal government supported organization they were. But they have been replaced under a new name and are still taxpayer funded.
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          • Siegfried Heydrich

            And that ‘new taxpayer funded’ organization is . . . ?

          • Sand_Cat

            Hold on, he has to check with FOX.

          • CPAinNewYork

            What is their present name?

          • Canistercook

            Citizens for a Democratic America and the NAACP!

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      • http://www.facebook.com/dee.coles.1 Dee Coles

        The NAACP WAS “looked at”, and threatened, by the IRS during the Bush years because the president, Julian Bond, critized Bush for the war in Iraq. Anybody else you want looked at? How about CrossRoads GPS which we KNOW is a politically active organization. Unless, of course, you can list some projects where they fed the hungry, clothed the naked…

        • idamag

          The NAACP was not only targeted by the IRS, but also J. Edgar Hoover and the FBI.

        • Canistercook

          So I guess to you two wrongs make a ‘right’. Any attempt to silence dissidents is a a scar on democracy and living in an un democratic society is sure scary .
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          • Sand_Cat

            No, we’re just asking where was your outrage then? And don’t say you didn’t know.
            It is a sad day for the nation when people of intelligence and education can look at the Republican party as it is today and want to have anything to do with it.

          • Canistercook

            Just like the Democrats have people who border on being hard socialists or even Communists and more reasonable people, Republicans like you have to give lip service to the far right wingers, but like Democrats they have a lot of middle of the roaders whose main concern is the direction of the country. Right now I think we all need to be concerned!
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      • BDC_57

        what acorn there is no acorn

  • tax payer

    I am glad this clown won’t be able to run again and will be happy he can eat some fried chicken like we all do these days. It’s good and it reminds me of him. Chicken!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1355735088 Alan Yungclas

      Your post makes no sense. Could you please re-write it so we know what you are talking about.

      • tax payer

        Obama! The President of the illegals of this country.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1362702462 Madelaine Ayers Henne

          The President of ALL the people whether you like it or no! You lost!! Again!!

          • Canistercook

            Guess what did we lose? Our freedom, economy and country?

          • neeceooooo

            Why don’t you take your ugliness and move to Burma, Libya, Somalia, Sudan or Syria and see what kind of freedom you have.

          • Canistercook

            I would and will if we get any more like them!

          • Siegfried Heydrich
        • metrognome3830

          You should probably go take a nap now. You’re getting stupider with every post.

          • tax payer

            I am an American and I have the right to be against the illegals coming to this country, and dropping anchor, so we can give their rats Medicaid, Food Stamps, Housing and a Obama Phone. If you are for them than you are one of many that parasite off the tax payers. Pendejo!

          • metrognome3830

            Sure you have the right to be a bigoted redneck, call anyone that disagrees with you a parasite and be dumber than a box of rocks. I absolutely defend your right to that. And others also have the right to tell you what you are.

          • tax payer

            I forgot to tell you I’m a Chinese and I do have a red neck, when I work hard for a living, and not have to depend on the tax payers to feed my family. I don’t know about you, but I went out and cut my grass, while you stayed in the computer trying to make me mad, but I don’t get mad at those that have no common sense.

          • metrognome3830

            You made the remarks, tax payer. I just defended you right to do so. I live in Arizona and I have “desert landscaping” so I have no grass to cut. When someone makes the assumption that if someone doesn’t agree with their position then they must be dependent on the government to feed their family? Is that what you call common sense? I worked for a living and raised and clothed and fed five children without government assistance. After working from 1956 until 2008, I retired. Once you get a little more life experience you may change your stance. But, perhaps not. Some people never change.
            But, like I said, you have the right to your opinion, too.

          • tax payer

            We also had children ( 3 ) and they never knew what hunger was because I paid cash for their food and we didn’t get free food with a Food Stamp Card like most of their friends parents. Right now I am watching the NBA Champions and will watch them play the winner between the Spurs, and the Grizzlies and no matter which teams wins the Heat will sent them home in five games in the Championship Game.

          • metrognome3830

            Good luck! I would say the Heat has an excellent chance.

          • mrivera1119

            The ultimate parasite living off the tax payers is the Tea Party,s golden boy Paul Ryan.

          • neeceooooo

            Second one is Rick Perry and I hear he may be putting his hat in the ring for the 2016 President.

          • plc97477

            Good. I need the laugh.

      • tobyspeeks

        Just a racist troll, pay it no attention.

      • idamag

        The fried chicken is a veiled racist remark. Another member of the KKK.

        • tax payer

          So, tell that to every fast food place that sells Fried Chicken. Food is food and those that have sentimental hearts call it a Racist remark. Eat Chicken and save the beef.

          • neeceooooo

            You made the reference, not anyone else in this discussion.

          • metrognome3830

            You made the comment. We know very well how you meant it.

          • idamag

            You are so cute. You forgot to add watermelon to the fried chicken.

    • oldtack

      Regarding your disjointed gobeldy gook in your post I ask – what in hell are you trying to say?

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.robertson.sr Robert P. Robertson

      Yeehah! Ya betta redneckonize, goddamn me! Be proud to be a okie from Muskogee, where even a ol’ dried up square can have a ball! We don’t smoke mar’juana or take trips on LSD! Hot damn! Git yur stink leg workin’ thur nah boy!

      • neeceooooo

        Funny, thanks for the laughter.

  • disqus_fsqeoY3FsG

    Why isn’t the “so called news” going after the scandal of a Republican source leaking e-mails from the CIA that turned out to be doctored to embarrass and hurt the Obama administration. This individual who did this should be fired by his Republican boss and we the people have a right to know it has been done. I am trusting that the source was a staff member and not a Republican Elected Official.

    • Canistercook

      The main stream media needs to forget it’s union supporters and tell the facts.

      • oldtack

        Are you perchance from California? You sound like some of those kooks down around Fresno and Clovis.

        • Canistercook

          I do not reply to people whose only defense is to insult!

          • metrognome3830

            OOPS! It seems you just did.

          • Canistercook

            Criticism is not an insult!

          • Siegfried Heydrich

            My dear fellow, you DO know that your posting history is available merely by clicking on your name, don’t you . . . ?

          • metrognome3830

            My reply refers to your statement that you do not reply to those whose only defense is to insult. But you did reply. I said nothing about an insult.

        • Canistercook

          When in doubt insult is your motto I guess!

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          • oldtack

            I was out of line for posting this and I apologize. There is no place on the forum for retorts such as this.

  • old_blu

    I do notice that the far right wingers only think the buck stops at President Obama when it’s something bad like Benghazie, (that turned out to be a waste of time and money again) but when it comes to something good like the economy turning around, getting Bin Laden, introducing universal health care, the stock market climbing, he had nothing to do with those. I do know all those things that are going good now sure as hell didn’t have anything to do with the obstructionist Republicans their main goal is not what is good for America but just to make the President and his people look bad……. Okay I’ll get off the soap box and let someone else have a turn. (thank you)

    • http://www.facebook.com/robert.robertson.sr Robert P. Robertson

      I got your back, my friend. All the Republicunt/neo-Confederate Tea Bags are doing is sealing their demise in 2014 and 2016, and good riddance! They think good legislation is bashing their president instead of representing the American people, and when they do legislate, it’s against the people in favor of their lobbies. We need to make these suckers know who pays them and who they work for. If they can’t get off their fat asses and work to move the country forward, what good are they? We need to identify and fire all of them in 2014, Republicunt/neo-Confederate Tea Bags and Yellow Dog Democrats. They are a bunch of no count dead weight putting a drag on our progress! . . How was that, old_blu?

      • old_blu

        Great job I’ll pass the soap box to you anytime. And good morning to you my friend.

        • http://www.facebook.com/robert.robertson.sr Robert P. Robertson

          ;-)

    • Canistercook

      I think the buck stops with those that take the 5th or do not answer questions truthfully.

      • mah101

        You realize that the term “take the 5th” refers to their right under the Constitution, right? The same document that has the 2nd amendment which is so inviolable.

        So which is it – open to interpretation, or unwavering? Pick one or the other, you don’t get to bounce back and forth depending on what end result you want.

        • neeceooooo

          Isn’t that the GOP’s method of operation, to interpret the amendments/constitution/tax code/talking points in whatever mode fits their agenda.

          • BDC_57

            Like the religious nut do with the bible

        • Canistercook

          I agree taking the 5th is their right, the question is since the taxpayers have been paying for their services are the taxpayers entitled to know what WORK they did for the taxpayers in return”

          • mrivera1119

            Tax payers have been paying Paul Ryan all his adult life and he hasn’t anything in Congress. Unless you count his lame political tricks.

          • plc97477

            Don’t forget that slam-bang budget he came up with.

          • BDC_57

            that they could not get passed

          • Canistercook

            Unfortunately the taxpayers have been paying too many politicians all their lives, including Obama which is. Why I do not as a rule vote for a permanent politico or a lawyer as a rule. Unfortunately those who make this country’s money and create the jobs are not politically inclined but hopefully they are becoming more concerned with our direction and will become more involved.
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    • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

      Well said. I think their claim that W kept us safe, presumably because 9/11 and the dozen attacks against U.S. diplomatic facilities were either a figment of our imagination or someone else’s fault is hilarious. Bear in mind that facts and fairness and objectivity are four letter words in Republican lingo. Their focus is on political gain, everything else is irrelevant and to be ignored when it is their fault.

      • old_blu

        Thank you Dominick, it means alot to know that we’re on the same page, and I hope you are well my friend. W got lucky that there were not more attacks on his watch.

  • Canistercook

    We are at an all time low when so many seek to defend the discriminatory actions of the IRS etc. Right wing or left wing, preserving our right of descent and the ability to speak freely without repercussions from those with the ‘badge of power’ was something I held dear. I no longer feel I can even contribute to the Boy Scouts without fear of a government pro gay group using my donation as an excuse to discriminate against me. A very sad state that we have reached! I guess many only give ‘lip service’ to the Constitution these days and only support it when it ‘favors’ their own opinions and party affiliation..

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1362702462 Madelaine Ayers Henne

      So exactly what are you saying? Are you, also paranoid? Is that it? Why doesn’t everyone just blow this way out of proportion? Geez!!

      • Canistercook

        How can one blow something out of proportion when we don’t yet have the facts and the person who could give us them has taken the 5th!

      • plc97477

        Sounds that way to me. He seems to be missing his foil hat.

      • Canistercook

        Wonder what proportion of freedom of speech this applies to!

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    • disqus_LcxpBv2uzz

      “preserving our right of ‘descent’…”; surely, a Freudian slip, as you have been
      proving with your useless and utterly ignorant posts, as you descend into the bottomless abyss of abject stupidity. As for me, I’m merely utilizing my right of dissent.

      • Canistercook

        Oops type error

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      • idamag

        Kind of fits with what I have been thinking. We evolved to a point and are now going down the other side and the descent is much faster than the ascent was.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    The Republican obsession with Barack Obama, the person, has been evident since his inauguration and has manifested itself in relentless obstructionism, insults, ridiculous claims involving his religion and place of birth, claims of apology tours, and lately by skillfully crafted scandals that defy logic and are likely to backfire on the GOP.
    Contrary to what Republican House members believe, most Americans approve and support President Obama’s policies, we like him, and we continue to carry on with our daily lives while our special interests buffoons engage in medieval witchhunts unworthy of national leaders. What we – the people – have noticed is that the people who elect seldom focus on the tasks we expect them to do. Instead, they engage in partisn bickering and ridiculous claims that damage the credibility of our government, our president, and the United States.

  • mike

    First, I am sorry the word impeachment was ever used. But if Obama knew about the IRS and allowed it to go on, then impeachment should go forward.

    As to the AP scandal, lets not forget that the administration and CIA asked the AP to hold off releasing the story, which they did, but when the several govt. entities said the threat had passed, AP realized the govt. was not telling the truth and decided to release the story. The Admin. asked them to wait until the next morning when the govt. was going to announce details. AP said no and released the info. Looks like revenge. DOJ broke the procedures to do this scorched earth program of phone tapping. A massive overreach and intimidation.

    Daily Kos, Jesselyn Radack, says ” I’ve been esplaining for years that the war on whistleblowers is a back door way of targeting journalists, and now that the water is boiling, the press should be on the front lines to beat back the govt. relentless attacks on the freedom of the press.

    Isn’t it ironic in the eyes of Obama, a whistleblower is a criminal, but leaks about Stuxnet, raid on Bin Laden, kill list, drone kills, is OK to burnish Obama’s reputation as the Super Human Protector.

    IRS scandal. Obama help created the atmosphere of oppressive behavior on a “culture of suspicion” of conservative organizations with his continuous public criticism of those individuals and organizations. The president repeatedly made public statements saying these people are up to no good, shouldn’t a good bureaucrat try to please the boss and go after the bad guys??

    Benghazi is a tragedy. We still don’t have all the answers. What is frightening the changing of Mr. Hicks testimony by the Accountability Review Board. When asked by ARB Mr. Hicks said Clinton asked him to go to Benghazi but ARB changed it saying he went on his own, his answer was changed. He was never allowed to review his testimony before the released report. If you don’t believe go watch his testimony before the House.

    • SteveCM

      “DOJ broke the procedures to do this scorched earth program of phone tapping.”

      There was no phone tapping.

      • mike

        Play your semantics game all you want, records were seized and the DOJ flagrantly violated long-standing procedures, and it’s own internal guidelines, by obtaining weeks of office and home telephone records of multiple AP journals without notifying the media organization in advance, thus depriving them of the opportunity to obtain a court ruling on the propriety of the govt. action. Oh, that was from the NY Times

        • SteveCM

          Not semantics and not a game – just essential accuracy.

          • mike

            Isn’t interesting that so many articles and videos use the expression “Phone Tapping” in the lead. Maybe it will help if you looked up the definition of Phone Tapping. God, you might learn something, anything would be better that what you think you know now.

            Say what you want but Obama has opened a can of worms that will play heavily for the next 4 years.

            A climate of fear is keeping journalist from doing their jobs, informing citizens about the secrets and wrongdoing of political leaders and govt. It is chilling and dangerous. Hell, even the ACLU is furious. Who would have thought.

            Play your “game” but it is a mess for the administration, you can’t deny it!

          • SteveCM

            Well aware of what “Phone Tapping” means, thanks. Not my problem if some headline writers aren’t.

            The can of worms has been open a very long time – see the NYT story from 2008 (actually about events in 2004) at http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/09/washington/09inquire.html?src=tp&_r=0 and other references at http://www.vanityfair.com/online/eichenwald/2013/05/republicans-obama-fox-news-bush?mbid=social_retweet

            Again, no “game”. Oh – and I certainly don’t deny that it’s a mess for the administration.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1362702462 Madelaine Ayers Henne

      I hardly think that checking the status of tax exempt groups is grounds for impeachment! Is everyone crazy?? You don’t throw the word impeach around like an invite to lunch! He didn’t endanger this country with any of his (accused of actions)!! This country must be starved for sensationalism!! Of all the things we should get upset by and all of you choose this? Amazing!!

      • mike

        I guess you have a problem with comprehension, I said, “if he knew about it and did nothing to stop it” it is an impeachable offense. Nothing more, nothing less.

    • Siegfried Heydrich

      Re: the IRS. I agree. However, sans proof, this appears to be overblown (tediously yet again).

      Re: AP. The DoJ is looking for a spy, a leak, a mole who endangered the national security, not a reporter. In the case of the Fox reporter, it’s to expose the Inspector Cluseau of reporters more than anything else. (gads, the tradecraft was just . . . embarrassing)

      Re: Benghazi (DRINK!). So far, it appears to be an intramural squabble between the State Dept and the CIA , with the CIA trying to lay off their responsibility on the SD, and the republicans being desperate to throw some poo in the general direction of Hillary Clinton.

      I can hardly wait for Ambassador Pickering and Admiral McMullen to appear on 60 Minutes . . .

  • JDavidS

    Forrest Trump hasn’t seen his name in the news for a while so perhaps we should be prepared for another of his “rock the world” announcements… Kinda like the non-announcement about Obamas’ “non birth certificate”. That idiot is, without doubt, the biggest media whore in the country today. And certainly, the biggest joke.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Myers/100001512942781 Jim Myers

    So, how much of the funds these organizations collected actually went to charitable, or social wellbeing causes?

    Wasn’t that the purpose that was stated in the filings when they were organized?

    If they did not live up to the causes they were organized to do, then why should they not be investigated?

    • ObozoMustGo

      There’s Jimmy the tyrant loving idiot. Hey stupid, what the hell do you know what Tea Party members and meetings are about? You dont. You just dont like their political speech, you damned Nazi. You don’t like the fact that they pass out copies of the Constitution which you and your leftist freak ilk loathe (except to plead the 5th in your corruption schemes). You don’t like the fact that they actually read legislation and educate people on how their government is robbing them blind. Silence all who disagree with you, or harrass them into silence. That’s your belief isnt it? Each interaction with you only convinces me that you must be senile, or in the onset stages of dimensia.

      Go take your meds.

      Have a nice day!

      “Without Freedom of Thought, there can be no such thing as Wisdom; and no such thing as public Liberty, without Freedom of Speech; which is the Right of every Man, as far as by it, he does not hurt or control the Right of another. And this is the only Check it ought to suffer, and the only bounds it ought to know. This sacred Privilege is also essential to free Governments, that the Security of Property, and the Freedom of Speech always go together; and in those wretched Countries where a Man cannot call his Tongue his own, he can scarce call any Thing else his own. Whoever would overthrow the Liberty of a Nation, must begin by subduing the Freeness [sic!] of Speech; a Thing terrible to Public Traitors.” — Ben Franklin

      • http://www.facebook.com/robert.robertson.sr Robert P. Robertson

        You’re going too far now, bitch. You’re swinging on Ben Franklin’s nuts?

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Myers/100001512942781 Jim Myers

        You know, this time you crossed the line. I don’t what you think about me, in fact, I usually revel in yanking your chain and waiting for your senseless blathering and your pathetic rants.

        But calling me a NAZI!

        WHAT KIND OF SLIME GAVE BIRTH TO YOU ANYWAY?

        YOU ARE THE PERFECT EXCUSE TO NEVER REPEAL ROE V WADE.

        FUCKING LITTLE PRICK.

        Go climb back into your little shit castle and suck in the stench.

        • ObozoMustGo

          Jimbo… no one with a brain goes from being conservative to being a leftist. You’re full of crap! As well, when you believe it’s OK for the government to use its power to target political opponents of the ruling regime, there is nothing else to call you but a Nazi. These are tactics of tyrants. Obozo is a tyrant. You love tyrants. It’s just a fact. You’ve had the mirror placed in front of your face and you don’t like it. TOO FRICKIN BAD!!

          I will continue to point out the folly of your clouded thinkin, and that of your leftist freak comrades, so long as I am around.

          Have a nice day!

          “Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example.” ― Mark Twain, Pudd’nhead Wilson

          • SteveCM

            Another Mark Twain quote that applies so well to all your inventive spewing:

            “Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Myers/100001512942781 Jim Myers

            A little history lesson for you, you GUTLESS LITTLE TURD.

            My father was wounded by the Nazi’s in WW11. So, GO TO FUCKING HELL!

            There is no way in hell I would become a Nazi.

            As for voting for George H.W. Bush, he was the last Republican I will ever vote for. Clearly the biggest political mistake of my life.

            After him, I started to wake up to the fact that Republicans cannot be trusted, EVER.

            And in case you are too stupid to read recent history, it was your savior, George the Second and his trusty sidekick DICK who introduced us to such things as rendition, the so called Patriot Act, freedom fries, (Remember those? A cheap, slimy shot at the French because they were RIGHT about not following the lemmings in to Iraq to find WMD that only existed in the minds of DICK and George.)

            And many more idiotic things, like George strutting around like some rooster, smirking at anyone who did not agree with him.

            NOW, THERE IS A CONSERVATIVE WORTH BEING PROUD OF!

            Go back to your little shit factory, and keep sampling the wares, you gutless little coward.

            Too afraid to even use your own name, while calling everyone who can actually think coherent thoughts idiotic names and copying quotes from people who you don’t know much, or anything, about.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Jimbo… you’re full of crap on the WMD thing about Bush. Saying that is nothing but spreading lies and propaganda invented by the malicious left that HATED Bush because he was Christian. In truth, they should have liked him because he’s also a progressive. He governed like one and he spent money like one. That whole WMD topic started under Slick Willie Clinton. Here is a sampling of quotes from DemonRATS about WMD. Once you read them in their OWN words, and they predate Bush, you cannot continue to spread the lie about Bush. And don’t give me this crap line that DemonRATS were too stupid to know better and were tricked by Bush. That also is a lie. The fact is that we were attacked on 9/11 and nearly ALL Americans wanted to extract a price from the terrorist. Maybe Iraq was the wrong place, but you cannot deny the country’s interest and support almost universally for the war. And that included DemonRAT suppport BEFORE Bush!!!

            “One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.” –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

            “If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” –President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

            “Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
            –Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

            “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.” –Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

            “[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions
            (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.”
            Letter to President Clinton, signed by: — Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

            “Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

            “Hussein has … chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.”
            — Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

            “There is no doubt that … Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will
            threaten the United States and our allies.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by: — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others,
            Dec 5, 2001

            “We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them.” — Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

            “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and
            chemical weapons throughout his country.”- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” – Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

            “We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction.”
            — Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

            “The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons…”– Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

            “I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force — if necessary — to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.”– Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

            “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.”– Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10,
            2002

            “He has systematically violated, over the course of the past
            11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do”
            — Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

            “In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical
            and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” — Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

            “We are in possession of what I think to be compelling
            evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction.” — Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL),
            Dec. 8, 2002

            “Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So
            the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…” — Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan.
            23. 2003

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Myers/100001512942781 Jim Myers

            I noticed that you never mentioned the “INCIDENT” with Joe Wilson. Probably because this led to the TREASONOUS ACT of outing Valerie Plame. An act that one of your favorite heros committed.

            But you have the audacity to call me a NAZI because I have enough brains to at least attempt to see both sides of an issue and not blindly follow the preachings of an ideological party line.

            You are STILL a coward, hiding behind the skirt of a Nom De Plume, afraid to even mention your own name. You poor, pathetic piece of crap.

            You aren’t worth the diatribe I wrote about you the other day.

            I try to keep above the personal attacks, because I know that you don’t have enough guts to write your filth in your own name. After all, someone might actually know you.

            However, to accuse me of being a NAZI, after my own father was wounded by them during WW2, truly cut me to my very core.

            And you don’t even have enough guts to apologize.

            Instead you come up with more of your idiotic rants.

            Tuck your tail between your legs and slime off somewhere where you can hide from the world you, gutless little coward.

            You would probably mess your pants if someone you know found out what kind of person you really are. But at least then you would have a warm meal.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Jim… I gave you the evidence that the whole WMD mantra of the leftist freaks is nothing but a lie because ALL of them supported the same exact notion, even before Bush showed up to run for office. You can think how you like, but you cannot ignore the FACTS that I have clearly placed before your eyes, and for all to read.

            I accuesed you of being a NAZI because of your own comments supporting the abuse of power to target political opponents. This is clearly a belief that you share with those of the NAZI mindset. So while I am greatful, particularly on this weekend for your father’s sacrifice and for your service to America, I still must call it as I see it. And I find it ironic that you, coming from your father’s sacrifice and your service, would support the practice of Obozo using the IRS to target conservative groups. I’ll give you an opportunity to revise and extend your remarks correcting your assertion that using the IRS for political purposes is wrong and should be punished.

            Have a great weekend, Jim!

            “We are the land of the free BECAUSE of the brave.” – United States Marines

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Jim-Myers/100001512942781 Jim Myers

            HEY, BOZO!!!

            HERE IS THE EXACT COPY OF MY ORIGINAL COMMENT THAT LED TO YOUR RANT ABOUT ME BEING A NAZI.

            “So, how much of the funds these organizations collected actually went to charitable, or social wellbeing causes?

            Wasn’t that the purpose that was stated in the filings when they were organized?

            If they did not live up to the causes they were organized to do, then why should they not be investigated?”

            ===============================================

            So, simply because I questioned the use of funds, I am a Nazi?

            The interesting thing is that a few “Liberal” PAC funds were denied tax free status during that same investigation. Maybe they should not have been investigated either.

            And, you still haven’t told us who you are. Still a scared little prick, who thinks that only someone who has the same beliefs as you is entitled to live in our Country.

            I guess you value cowardice as a virtue, the same as the man who said “I have better things to do than get my ass shot off in Vietnam.” You figure out who that was.

            You act all brave, and relish the pain you cause others by belittling them in print, quoting great people to make your point, AND YET, THEY NEARLY ALL USED THEIR OWN NAMES!

            There is an interesting post in the National Memo today titled “SHARE THIS: Jon Stewart Destroys Peggy Noonan”

            An article about the “Great Communicator”, icon of the right, who could do no wrong. Committing, what should have been an impeachable offense, if not a Treasonous act.

            Of course, I expect yet another piece of crap from you, because, after all President Reagan was a strong Conservative.

            One last comment. You are wrong about someone changing from being a Conservative to a Liberal.

            PEOPLE, EVEN OF THE CONSERVATIVE BENT, WHO HAVE ANY MORALS, EVENTUALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE CONSERVATIVES OF TODAY ARE FAR REMOVED FROM HAVING ANY CHRISTIAN BELIEFS.

            Beliefs such as, “Do unto others as you would have others do unto you,” or “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”

            Biblical beliefs such as “Thou shalt not bear false witness against your neighbor,” or a question, such as “Am I my brothers keeper?”

            Clearly I fell short of these myself, and for that I am sorry. However, I do stand by the statement that you have no business calling other people names and scorning them for their beliefs, particularly when you hide who you really are behind a non de plume. Because you do not have the guts to use your own name.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Jim, the context of your post seemed to lead to the conclusion that you supported the targeting of political opponents because THAT is exactly what it was about. Especially considering the WIDESPREAD targeting and the context the questions that were being asked of ONLY conservative groups. If that is not the case, then my apologies to you for saying that you were a Nazi because you supported Nazi-like tactics that Obozo deployed. The absolute truth we do know is that the entire targeting of conservative groups was a massive effort on the part of Obozo to suppress the vote of conservatives by blocking their efforts to organize and raise money. This was his reaction to Citizens United and the ass kicking he took in Nov. 2010.

            Have a great Memorial Day, Jim!

            “We are the land of the free BECAUSE of the brave.” – United States Marines

        • idamag

          This business of throwing out the Nazi or hitler word if so reprehensible. KKKbozo owes an apology to those people who lived and died because of the Nazi party. What a slime.

        • plc97477

          They also ran McCain who was born in panama.

      • neeceooooo

        You know, it is not just Jim that you have offended but every person in this conversation who disagrees with your bigoted, racist, hateful, ugly remarks. If you are such a great Christian as you like everyone here to think, then you need to show a little more common decency. What kind of mother raised you with so much hate in your heart.

        • ObozoMustGo

          ooooooooooooooo….. neece throws out the race card…. SHOCKER!! Just like every other useless moron and leftist freak does when they have nothing to say. If I am a racist, answer this question:

          Who would I voter for, a black conservative (say Alan West) or a white progressive?

          Come on, answer the question, neece.

          Awaiting your response I remain…

          Have a nice day!

          “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” –Joe “Plugs” Biden on Barack Obama

          • old_blu

            Hey! Bozo you know as well as I do that’s not ever going to happen so we don’t have to worry about that. You or me will never have to answer that question. I mean you guy’s picked Romney. Jeeez do you see what I’m saying. The last election would have been an easy win for the Republicans all they had to do was pick a good candidate. Simple right? But they picked Romney. Do you really think Allen West could really be a candidate for the Republican party?

          • ObozoMustGo

            It’s my boy, BLU! What up blu? Long time no speak. I hope you are well. You are wrong, however, that it (me voting for a black guy) won’t happen. I don’t give a damn what color person’s skin is. I am more interested in their ideas. Allen West is a great patriot and I’d vote for him for ANY office in the land. He only lost because the DemonRATS gerrymandered his district to include leftist enclaves, all of which committed voter fraud in the recount. You are correct that the Repubs needed a better candidate than Romney who was flawed from the beginning with Romneycare. He didn’t do himself any favors either in the general election by being so passive as opposed to how aggressive he was in the primaries.

            And regarding my question that I posed, I have never really had a single leftist freak answer the question. That’s because it takes their false charge of racism and throws it back in their faces. They always shut the hell up when I ask it.

            Have a great day, blu!

            “Everybody has asked the question. . .”What shall we do with the Negro?” I have had but one answer from the beginning. Do nothing with us! Your doing with us has already played the mischief with us. Do nothing with us! If the apples will not remain on the tree of their own strength, if they are worm eaten at the core, if they are early ripe and disposed to fall,
            let them fall! I am not for tying or fastening them on the tree in any way, except by nature’s plan, and if they will not stay there, let them fall. And if the Negro cannot stand on his own legs, let him fall also. All I ask is, give him a chance to stand on his own legs! Let him alone!” — Frederick Douglass

          • old_blu

            I’m am well Bozo, and I hope you are good as well. I didn’t mean to imply you wouldn’t vote for a black person for President, I believe you would, I just don’t think your party is ready to put one on the ballot yet.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Actually blu, you’re wrong about that also. The whole “racist” thing you guys on the left think about conservatives could not be further from the truth. It’s propaganda that has been spewed by DemonRATS for a long time, but has no truth in it. In fact, what’s funny is that it seems like the DemonRATS are the racists. Here’s one right here:

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Z4TvAZQogsc

            And it is also true that the KKK was the DemonRAT party of the south wearing hoods so they could be disquised while implementing DemonRAT policies “for real”.

            In truth, in today’s world, I think there’s a very small percentage of white people that are racists, and I think that they are in both parties equally. We’ll never get rid of racism. It’s a human weakness. Hell, blu, there’s still people that think the Holocaust never happened… or that think we never landed on the moon, and it was staged. There’s lots of wackos out there across all walks of life in every political ideology. That’s just the way it is.

            Have a nice weekend, blu!

            “The only defense against the world is a thorough knowledge of it.” ― John Locke

          • old_blu

            That was a long time ago, and I know what you’re talking about the KKK being Democrat the whole south was until 1964 and we all know what happened then, and I’ll bet they aren’t Democrats anymore. You may want to book mark this because the rest of what you say from “in truth, in today’s world”. I absolutely agree with you on that.

            You have a good week end as well.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Thanks blu! Eat lots of burgers and dogs and drink lots of beer this weekend. And don’t forget to give thanks to those who have paid the ultimate price for our freedoms!

          • plc97477

            I bet you would hold your nose and vote for the conservative and let him screw up the country.

          • idamag

            bozo has a history of misquotes, racism and downright lies. arguing with that slime is like arguing with a person in a mental institution.

          • mrivera1119

            Alan West is also slightly unbalanced.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Why is Alan West unbalanced? Because his skin color is black and in your view he does not behave or believe like a black man is supposed to behave?
            I think I smell the stench of racism around here now.
            Have a nice Memorial Day weekend!
            “We are the land of the free BECAUSE of the brave.” – United States Marines

          • mrivera1119

            Why don’t you watch some of his tirades?

          • plc97477

            Slightly?

        • DPLinLA

          You can’t argue with the mentally unbalanced.

        • idamag

          Good reply. You and Jim are A-1 in my book.

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.robertson.sr Robert P. Robertson

    In terms of that so-called AP scandal, we have to consider clandestine operations where individuals are risking their lives in highly dangerous scenarios, and uncovering or leaking their identities not only risk their lives but risks national security as well. We should look closely at what is classied information and what is news. The AP is not the CIA, ATF, DEA, or the FBI. The AP is a journalist institution, the others are institutions of National Security. If we confuse the two, all alQaeda, the Taliban, Hebullah, or the Muslim Brotherhood has to do is tune in to Farts News or Al Jazeerah and begin to behead all of the agents in their ranks. That is the problem with Assange and the convicted Marine who was passing classified information to wikileaks. they confused classified information with news. In our courts of law, there are such things called “privileged information” and “corporate veils” that no one is allowed to see but a judge. Is that freedom of the press? If so, let’s crack out the classified information on the assasinations of JFK, Malcolm X, MLK, and RFK. What about the classified infortmation on Area 51 and UFO’s. Let’s have at it and open it all up for our peace of minds.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.simmons.7739 Joe Simmons

    The Republicants have nothing to offer but empty slogans, phony outrage and political favors for those rich or powerful enough to buy-in. They are panicking because they see their influence slipping away as people see how little they offer and how much less they deliver!

  • elw

    Here is my advice to the GOP. My biggest hope is that you will keep up your unintelligent search for a scandal in hopes of taking down our President. Keep yelling, keep having those televised investigations of so called scandals because each time you do you keep it fresh in the minds of the public of how out of touch you are; I ask you to keep that fresh in the voters’ minds so they will not forget that you are the Party of lies and deception who only cares about their own personal agenda to impeach a Democratic President, whether you have Constitution cause or not. It reminds them of how little you have accomplished and of how little respect you have for the Constitution and the Country you live in. It also gives me hope that more and more of you will fail to win elections until your influence and negative effects on Country’s movement forwards is negligible.

    • plc97477

      I am with you all the way. Let them keep showing that they are the party of stupid.

  • FredAppell

    For me, the real question here is weather or not the conservatives are creating a precedent for all future presidents to be impeached for all sorts of meaningless reasons.” Don’t like a presidents religion, impeach”, “don’t like a presidents policies, impeach”, don’t like a presidents personality, impeach”. I could go on and on but the point is, impeachment should be a tool with great limits placed on its utilization. Conservatives want to lower the standards by a large margin, therefore insuring that when things aren’t going their way, all they have to do is impeach.

    • ObozoMustGo

      Fred… you are correct. Abuse of power and using the IRS and DOJ to stymie and harrass political opponents and media should be par for the course for ANY president. Isn’t that what you are saying?

      Have a nice day!

      “It is indeed difficult to imagine how men who have entirely renounced the habit of managing their own affairs could be successful in choosing those who ought to lead them. It is impossible to believe that a liberal, energetic, and wise government can ever emerge from the ballots of a nation of servants.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville

      • Siegfried Heydrich

        Seriously – when your attached boilerplate is longer than your post, you’re simply out of your depth . . .

        • ObozoMustGo

          Siggy…. when you cannot understand a simple point, you are out of your depth, which clearly is no more deep than a teaspoon.

          You can go back to your bong now! And here’s a brain twister for you to ponder in all your stoned glory.

          Have a nice high!

          “Liberty, in the most general acceptation of the word, is nothing else than the power of executing the will, and accomplishing your desires; now the nature of every being endowed with will, is such that this faculty of willing causes his happiness or unhappiness; he is happy when his desires are accomplished, and unhappy when they are not; and happiness or misery are proportioned in him according to the degree of his gratification or disappointment. It follows that his liberty and happiness are the same thing. He would always be completely happy if he had always the power of executing his will, and the degree of his happiness is always proportionate to the degree of his power.” — Antoine Louis Claude Destutt, Count of Tracy (1754 – 1836), in his book “A Commentary and Review of Montesquieu’s “Spirit of Laws,” translated by Thomas Jefferson in an edition first printed in Philadelphia in 1811

          • Siegfried Heydrich

            You really, really have to love it when they make your points for you . . .

    • Canistercook

      Guess it depends o what you think is ‘meaningless’. I think our Constitution and right to free speech is pretty important.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Cook… “meaningless” when it’s the trifecta of scandals and one of them leaves Americans dead. Meaningful when some lackies break into a political headquarters looking for campaign strategies and donor records, but no one dies. Just clarifying that for you.

        Have a nice day!

        “The problem of the distribution of the power of a society, so as to be most favorable to liberty, cannot be solved so long as too much power is given to a single man.” – Charles de Montesquieu, “Spirit of Laws”, Book XI

      • FredAppell

        Who said anything about free speech. I happen to believe that it is the most important Amendment of all. I may not like the things that people
        say sometimes but I have never told anyone they don’t have the right. And you know exactly what I mean by meaningless. Obama isn’t teflon,
        conservatives sure don’t mind reminding the rest of us how inept he is but then you turn around and give him credit for being a smooth operator. So which is it, you can’t have it both ways.

        • DPLinLA

          Cognitive dissonance does not exist within the conservative bubble, so YES they can have it both ways.

          • FredAppell

            The entire concept is over their heads. And the only reason why they can have it both ways is because it’s pointless to argue against stupidity.

      • mrivera1119

        Bush walked all over it but Repubs have severe tunner vision.

        • idamag

          I guess they forgot the Patriot act, allowing a data base of everyone’s telephone calls. They also forgot Homeland Security demanding browser records from search engines. Google refused to comply.

        • Canistercook

          Guess you must know a lot of republicans as you know a lot about them!
          Sent from my iPad

          • mrivera1119

            Of course, it’s better than watching Comedy Central.

    • Archie’s Boy

      If the Republicans can manage to stay in power, you may have a scary point there. Let’s hope that their ideological insanity is the factor that finally gets them voted out of office, and some actual mature grownups take their place. At this point, I don’t care which side of the aisle they’re on — just as long as they’re willing to work together for the good of the citizenry.

      PS: I love that word “jackleg” in the article (incompetent, unskillful, dishonest) — the perfect description of George W. Bush!

      • FredAppell

        I hope I’m wrong but I believe impeachment has been on table for this president since his first inauguration. I’m not playing the race card, I believe any Democrat president was going to be under scrutiny. Republicans really can’t understand how they lost the last two Presidential elections and their pissed.

        • mrivera1119

          How come Republicans did not cry impeachment when Bush and company committed all kinds of national security impeachable offenses? Because they are partisan opportunists with no sense of honor.

          • FredAppell

            Not only that, but when the American people overwhelmingly supported impeaching Bush, the Democrats took it off the table.
            We had the Congress and the Senate and they let him go. They said it wasn’t even an option. Both parties chose to ignore his transgressions. I think a lot of Dems allowed themselves to be duped and thought there would be a political price to pay if they pushed for impeachment. Don’t make too much of this impeachment talk, I don’t think they want Biden anymore than they want Obama.

          • mrivera1119

            There you go, maybe they were equally terrifed of getting Cheney. At least Biden is intelligent, funny and cool. Cheney was simply sinister.

          • FredAppell

            That definitely could have played into their decision. As far as Biden goes, that’s a win/win for Democrats, not only is he everything you mentioned, he has also been doing it a long time.
            He has no trouble reaching across the isle to get things done.
            That could be a real asset.

          • plc97477

            He will still need someone to reach from the other side. Of course if the hand is not dark complected they might have less reason to try to slap it away.

          • FredAppell

            I try not to bring up the race issue but you make a valid point.
            By the way, I haven’t entirely taken the race issue off the table either. Don’t know if you’ve been following the latest stories or not but there’s an awful lot of in fighting going on with the Republicans. Their not exactly one big happy family these day’s.
            If they fracture, we will win every meaningful election for a generation.

          • FredAppell

            I wouldn’t be surprised at all if that was a part of their decision making. Your assessment of Biden is also one that I share. He may make some gaffes when he speaks but he is certainly no dummy.

          • plc97477

            That would have been a wonderful reason as far as I am concerned.

        • mrivera1119

          Imagine their fury when the lose the next one!!!!

          • plc97477

            That’s what keeps me going. Puts a song in my heart.

          • FredAppell

            I’m counting the days, I’ve been waiting for this for a long time. I just posted to someone else, informing them of the huge split happening with the Republicans. It’s a beautiful thing to witness their implosion. By the way, did you get two similar reply’s from me last night? I apologize if you did, I was having some problems
            with my computer and my reply’s to you weren’t showing up on the comments screen.

    • plc97477

      Unfortunately that is a 2 way road. Maybe they should be less interested in starting something they don’t want to.

      • FredAppell

        That’s a good point. They may not like the long term consequences.
        They lack the insight to see beyond their own personal war with President Obama. I say let happen. Their pride will be their downfall.

  • charleo1

    I heard briefly on my way out the door, one Republican panel member,
    in what I’m sure he thought was an eloquent defense of freedom of speech.
    And the Right of all Americans to express their opinions without the fear of
    government reprisals, and incrimination. I expected any moment to hear a
    fife, and drum begin playing. And, the government reprisals he was talking
    about, consisted of hauling people off to the gulag, or a firing squad. But,
    no. It seems some Americans have suffered the unspeakable tyranny of
    of having their political organization’s tax exempt status, no not denied,
    but held up! To the ramparts! This is a time for all good men to…..go to
    work.

    • Leftliesandfalseargument

      Yeah what if it was your group. Typical liberal you don’t mind the rights of those you oppose infringed.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Leftlies… you know the irony here is that these leftist freaks seem to approve of the IRS harrassment of conservatives, yet they scream and yell when a couple of terrorists involved in killing thousands of American citizens are laid on board and have water poured on their faces. Does this hypocrisy NOT stink like a mountain of cow crap to you?

        Have a nice weekend!

        “Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the Government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian!” – Henry Ford

        • mrivera1119

          Quoting Henry Ford will weaken your points. He was a well known Nazi sympathizer. Look it up.

          • ObozoMustGo

            So you don’t like Henry Ford. Who cares? No one. I do find it curious how you addressed a quote, but chose not to address my valid point about how you leftist freaks are OK with abuse of power to harrass conservative political opponents, yet you freak out in defense of waterboarding terrorist killers or keeping them in Gitmo.
            Explain your hypocrisy, please.
            Have a nice Memorial Day weekend!
            “We are the land of the free BECAUSE of the brave.” – United States Marines

          • tax payer

            He’s now next to his pal.

  • mah101

    Everyone, please remember this bunch of crooks, frauds, liars, and partisan hacks in 2014. Do not allow them to retain their majority in the House despite receiving fewer votes. Don’t let them gain in the Senate.

    Get out and vote next year.

    • neeceooooo

      As long as they don’t gerrymander the districts again to make it work in their favor.

    • Leftliesandfalseargument

      You mean the Democrats right. Yeah I will vote them out.

      • tax payer

        Republicans-Democrats are all the same. They are there for the money and for the illegals, and we don’t exist to them. They were put there for us, but somehow they came out of their shells and felt the illegals are more important than those that pay their salaries. Your vote in the future can put them in the streets, so they’ll know how it feels to be someone that has no voice.

        • mrivera1119

          And those illegals will be armed thanks to the NRA and its Republican cronies in Congress.

    • mrivera1119

      Repubs obstructionists have to go.

    • plc97477

      I have never missed an election since turning 21. I will vote if I am able. Yes you had to be 21 then.

    • tax payer

      I voted against Castro and he still won thanks to these dummies that don’t bother to vote, and they complaint the most too.

  • oldtack

    I’m not insulting you – I’m talking on your one line level.

    If you want to post here with meaningful dialog,conservative or liberal ,then I will respond with meaningful dialog.
    We can always present our views and agree to disagree but one liners just don’t cut it.

    • ObozoMustGo

      What’s up old? I hope you are well.

      • oldtack

        Getting along fine Obozo, hope things are well with you. I’m giving consideration to changing my log on name. The “old” part is hitting too close to home!

        • ObozoMustGo

          Don’t let it bother you, old. I think Metrognome may be oldest one on here. hehehehehe (Hey Metro! If you’re reading this). You may be old, but I still like you! ;-)

          Have a great day!

          “If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.” — Milton Friedman

          • http://www.facebook.com/robert.robertson.sr Robert P. Robertson

            Watch it, Bozo. The ground will wipe your stinking ass from swinging on Friedman’s nuts.

          • ObozoMustGo

            Retard Robbie… you seem to have a rather unhealthy obsession with genitalia. What’s up with that? Are you some sort of sexual predator? I think so.

            Go get some help.

            Have a nice day!

            “In the first place God made idiots. This was for practice. Then he made Retard Robbie P. Robertson.” ― Mark Twain, Following the Equator: A Journey Around the World

  • ObozoMustGo

    Gene Lyons, useful idiot du jour, goes to work trying to rally the Obozo zombies to his defense, despite the corruption and abuse of governmental power, and the pursuant cover-ups by the Soviet-style Obozo regime. Gene, one would think, falsely I might add, that you would maintain just a modicum of professional integrity and seek the truth behind why these scandals are happening. Instead, you have yet again sold your professional soul in defense of the indefensible because Obozo is your messiah. Anything for the cause, eh? You give yellow journalism a good name, Gene. Especially with the FALSE statement that no Tea Party groups, or other conservative groups or individuals, were audited. That is an outright LIE, and you know it, Gene.

    So Gene, when you had written this (if you even actually did, and not someone from inside the Obozo regime), Lois Lerner had not yet pleaded the 5th Amendment in front of the committee. However, in an attempt to save her own ass, and Obozo’s she hopes, she has elected to NOT testify after she has already been under oath testifying. So the piece of human garbage, Lois Lerner, that was assaulting American’s 1st Amendment rights is suddenly using the 5th to protect herself. Ohhhh the irony here. Too bad for her, however, she has already waived her 5th rights by testifying previously. How many of you morons know that little ol’ innocent Lois was also instrumental, while at the FEC in the 90’s, in harrassing Christian groups? Betcha you leftist freaks love that, don’t you?

    As well, there are more Benghazi whistleblowers lining up to testify that Obozo and Fat Ass Cankles Clinton were illegally supplying anti-aircraft missiles to Al Qaeda terrorists, because the CIA refused to give them arms that could take down civilian aircraft. The CIA was right, but Obozo and Cankles went ahead anyway. That’s why Stevens was even in Benghazi, the most dangerous terrorist city in the world, on the anniversary of 9/11, without ANY real security. It’s also why Obozo gave stand down orders 2 or 3 times, and let Stevens and 3 others die.

    Finally, if you dopes think that just the AP was being snooped upon, you’re, as usual, stuck with your heads up Obozo’s butt. Obozo’s Chicago thug machine has been in high gear for a long time attempting to silence whistleblowers and to intimidate the media to whom whistleblowers may reveal such matters about the absolute corruption of his regime. Obozo and his minions are no better than Stalin or Hitler, or any other 2-bit dictator.

    Have a nice day!

    “It is above all in the present democratic age that the true friends of liberty and human grandeur must remain constantly vigilant and ready to prevent the social power from lightly sacrificing the particular rights of a few individuals to the general execution of its designs. In such times there is no citizen so obscure that it is not very dangerous to allow him to be oppressed, and there are no individual rights so unimportant that they can be sacrificed to arbitrariness with impunity.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville

    • Siegfried Heydrich

      Ah, your angst warms my heart . . .

  • tax payer

    We have a Dictator and I though he had died already ( Chavez ), but he’s here and destroying our country.

    • mrivera1119

      Typical empty, absurd, childish, Republikan rethoric.

      • tax payer

        Were you looking in the mirror, when you came out with your Profile? You must realize by now I don’t care to know about your life.

        • mrivera1119

          Valerian tea might help your case.

          • tax payer

            A Beer will do and I don’t even drink.

      • tax payer

        When I read what someone puts down I read it and go on to the next comment. I don’t agree or disagree because everyone has their own opinion and I could care less what they put down. I am not here to Judge you, but only to read the comments and nothing else. I don’t get mad because I don’t care what someone puts down, but some of you take it personal and, if you do than you have no business being here among us.

        • mrivera1119

          “No business being here among you”? Really? I forgot arrogance and sense of entitlement as part of said rethoric.

  • howa4x

    This is because the republican party is devoid of ideas. What new idea have they offered on anything? They think they can rile up America with scandal. What they don’t realize is people are underinsured, unemployed and want government to step up and help them. Do you think an unemployed worker wants to hear about the sequester, or a single mother wants to hear that the food her child gets will be cut off so tax exempions can be saved for corporate jets? This is why the Republican party is doomed.

    • David Lethe

      It wasn’t the Republicans Idea to create the scandals. The dems did that all on their own.

      • old_blu

        Really? What scandal are you talking about? Is it the one where he’s from Kenya? Is it the one where he’s a gay man? Is it the birth certificate one? Is it the one where he’s Muslim? Is it the one where he’s a murderer or does cocaine? You are going to have to be more specific, and then tell me someone didn’t make up all this shit, and they are still doing the same thing, and you guys wonder why you are the “stupid party” Republican words not mine.

        • plc97477

          Good answer.

          • old_blu

            Thank you. These regurgitators have been throwing shit at the wall since President Obama was first put in the white house and they haven’t been able to make any of it stick yet, I don’t know what makes them think they are getting better at it.

        • David Lethe

          No, I am talking about the IRS one. You know, the one you are avoiding because you can’t defend the actions of the administration so have to try to change the subject.

          • old_blu

            They are not going to find anything on it either just like alllll the rest of the witch-hunts they have been on. Do you really think The President of the United States had anything to do with what the IRS is doing? The IRS thing is just another stupid party thinking they are going to cause a problem for Obama and you know it is. That was my point one thing after another they keep throwing shit at the wall hopeing something will stick so far nothing, (How many things?) They have been doing it since Obama took office, and they think it’s because they don’t know how to throw. Instead of doing what’s right for America this is how they govern. And YOU, won’t see it, but I do. Americans are getting tired of it and it will show in 2014.

          • idamag

            I can defend the actions of the IRS. The tea party was claiming to be a public service organization. They are a political organization and should pay taxes accordingly. If the IRS targeted the tea party it was because they had cause to investigate them. If the tea party had nothing to hide, it shouldn’t have worried them.

          • mrivera1119

            The IRS is the wrong agency. The Tea Party should be investigated by the FBI and given a hate group classification.

    • tax payer

      Underinsured because they don’t buy Health Insurance. Unemployed because they would rather stay home and collect benefits from the tax payers. The tax payers ( not the Government ) is already helping them. The mother has to realize she needs to have sex with a man that will be there for the children and not be a hit, and run Breeder.

      • youmustbejoking

        If there was a crystal ball to look into, perhaps women would not have a child with a loser who will desert them and not support the child. But there isn’t such a thing and one never knows what can happen in the future. However, contrary to your assertion, anyone who receives public assistance (called Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, or TANF)- which is a very small amount and certainly not sufficient to support a family- is time limited to only be eligible to receive help for a maximum of 5 years. One is required to work when receiving assistance and any earnings are deducted from any amount of assistance received. In states like Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee a mom with two children can receive as little as $200-$300 a month in cash assistance

  • Leftliesandfalseargument

    Have you Democrats ever read the Constitution and Bill of Rights? Why all this hate for the Tea Party? All the Tea Party wants is to stop the bloated expansion of government. A government by the way that has admitted to harassing American citizens improperly . Can you see this? It isn’t a R or D issue. Do you a government of tyranny or freedom. Imagine if Bush had the IRS harass Green Peace or Media Matter or any liberal group. Would that be ok because he was in power. Look beyond your partisanship.

    • David Lethe

      Well, they’ve read up on the fifth amendment at least.

      • ObozoMustGo

        David, that’s the only one the DemonRATS like. Consider the irony of a woman who’s spent a career harrassing Christians and conservatives to limit their 1st Amendment rights only to try to save her own ass by using the 5th Amendment.

        Have a nice day!

        “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Ben Franklin

        • disqus_C2kQ6zBTCy

          This started with the Patriot Act and anyone who disagreed…I quote George Bush Jr. “If your not with us you are with the terrorists”.

          • ObozoMustGo

            C2… you must be an Obozo zombie following the “blame Bush” mantra on everything. How is it you leftist freaks and idiots seem to never place blame for ANYTHING that Obozo does at his own feet? Do yourself a favor and don’t make yourself out to be a complete moron. Look up Lois Lerner and Federal Election Commission. That’s back in the 90’s you dope, and the Patriot Act wasnt even thought at that time. Lois Lerner has been harrassing conservatives and Christians for years before Bush even showed up. Why do you think Obozo gave her the job? Because of her track record in harrrassing the political opposition for nearly 20 years.

            Now, I hear you leftist freaks bitch about the Patriot Act all the time. I agree with your sentiments on that. However, when it comes to Obozo reauthorizing it and, worse yet, creating the NDAA that is the Patriot Act on steroids, what do I hear from you guys????……… crickets………….. crickets…………… crickets……. crickets………

            Don’t be such a hypocrite, C2.

            Have a nice weekend!

            “Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don’t mean to do harm– but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.” — T. S. Eliot

          • disqus_C2kQ6zBTCy

            i stopped reading pretty much after 3 words…either have a drink when you get home from work or seek help…i feel your aggression through the internet.

    • mrivera1119

      Have you? Obviously not.

      • Leftliesandfalseargument

        I have and know it well. It is the reason I’ll not support fascism like Obama uses.

        • mrivera1119

          Dear, get a dictionary and open it some time. You obviously have no idea what fascism means. Using words like that, without a clue, is what has given Republicans the reputation of being intellectually challenged.

        • plc97477

          Obama is as far from fascism as a person can get. Maybe you need to look up your words before using them.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    It was amazing watching ISSA in the Congressional hearings on this desperately trying to dredge up some, any kind of dirt he could. When he was slammed in the face with facts and several right wing organizations who call themselves “social welfare” groups were found to be totally funding political groups, you see just how murky the Tea Party and the rest of the slimeballs of the right want to be exempted from paying taxes. Now you see what the GOP is really after…They got what they wanted when the Supreme Court handed corporations rights as “people.” Now, the GOP is after claiming charity and social groups are also exempt from paying taxing on money they hand in the billions to the GOP. See the skankola yet?

    • idamag

      Issa scratches in the barnyard with the chickens, trying to find some poop.

  • mrivera1119

    Dear President Obama’s haters: I want to thank you from the bottom of my die hard liberal heart. From Michele Bachman down to the most humble rabid voter, most of you look and sound certifiable. The American public is watching, some with amusement, most in disbelief, as facts are twisted, history is re-written, millions are wasted, Congress is ripping off tax payers and the demagogues are out in force throwing mud at anyone and everyone. When the dust settles, I recommed high doses of valerian tea, so we can, as a nation, celebrate the election of the first female president. And stop barking up the wrong tree, as usual. The lady to watch is Senator Elizabeth Warren. Consider yourselves warned.

    • Leftliesandfalseargument

      Republicans will win the Senate and strengthen their hold on the house. The Clinton elites will be throwing the Chicago thuggery administration under the bus for outing the liberal bias and subversion within the bureaucracy. The truth is out. The Majority of voters believe something is very wrong in house of Obama.

      • mrivera1119

        Leftl, just keep dreaming, it beats despair in the face of reality.

      • tax payer

        I am a Conservative, but I like your idea.

    • tax payer

      The first month she would get pregnant and than she would take a one year vacation to rest her back.

      • youmustbejoking

        Since Elizabeth Warren is a 60 something year old woman, I doubt she will be having any more children.

  • exdemo55

    Dan Pfeiffer, senior adviser to the president for strategy and communications, appeared on five news programs Sunday to discuss the controversies buffeting the administration. The spectacle revealed the mind-set of a White House under siege.

    Mr. Pfeiffer invoked the word “irrelevant” like a wizard’s incantation to dismiss questions about who edited the misleading Benghazi talking points, where the president was on the night of the assaults, and even if the law prevented the IRS from targeting groups for political reasons. On Mr. Pfeiffer’s last point, ABC’s George Stephanopoulos responded, “You don’t really mean the law is irrelevant, do you?”

    The White House adviser proclaimed that an administration should “never interfere in independent investigations,” whether of the IRS or Benghazi. He liked that phrase so much he used it or a variation more than 12 times.

    To foster the image of a decisive chief executive, Mr. Pfeiffer said Mr. Obama would “fix the problem” so it “would never happen again.” He liked that phrase too, using it or a variant about 20 times in his 52 minutes on camera.

    Mr. Pfeiffer denied any bad behavior by the Obama administration. The IRS profiling of conservative groups was an issue of “management” and “not political motivation.”

    Wrongdoing? “There’s nothing to suggest” Sarah Hall Ingram, who ran the IRS tax-exempt division as it harassed conservatives for over two years, “did anything wrong.” She was apparently ignorant of what her staff was doing. Ms. Ingram now oversees the IRS implementation of ObamaCare.

    Mr. Pfeiffer even insisted that Republicans should apologize to Susan Rice, the U.S. ambassador to the U.N. This apology was owed “for accusing her of misleading the country” when she described the Benghazi attacks on television on Sept. 16 (five days after the attacks) as a spontaneous reaction to an anti-Muslim video.

    Mr. Pfeiffer was quick to blame others. The CIA, he claimed, was responsible for the deceptive talking points that credited a “protest” for the Benghazi attacks. The agency removed all references to terror and al Qaeda, not the White House or State Department. Mr. Pfeiffer reserved his real venom for Republicans, whom he accused of “playing politics,” with 21 references to “partisan fishing expeditions, trumped up hearings,” “political hit jobs” and the like.

    Mr. Pfeiffer spun his way through the Sunday talk shows, but his performance won’t get the White House past these controversies. A new Washington Post-ABC News poll shows 74% of Americans believe it was inappropriate for the IRS to single out conservatives. By 45% to 42%, Americans say Mr. Obama is trying to cover up the facts about it.

    A new Fox News poll out Tuesday found that more than 60% believe the Obama administration “is trying to cover-up what happened” in Benghazi, and 66% think the White House “knew” about or “directed” the IRS targeting of conservative groups.

    The situation could get worse for the White House as more questions get answered. Who concocted the fairy tale that the Benghazi attacks were caused by an anti-Muslim YouTube video? Who ordered U.S. military personnel in Tripoli not to attempt a rescue?

    These questions are not going away, especially after the White House released a slew of emails. The emails reveal that, contrary to White House assertions, State Department and West Wing officials worked together to remove all references to terrorism from the talking points about Benghazi; that the talking points were altered at a White House meeting; and that unnamed staff at the U.S. Mission to the U.N. were in touch with White House staff about preparing Ms. Rice for her TV appearances.

    There is more to come on the IRS scandal as well. Who authorized the agency to target conservative groups? Congressional Democrats who demanded the IRS investigate conservative organizations and the president who labeled these groups as “a threat to democracy” will have to explain the climate of intimidation they fostered.

    These controversies are still in their early stages—and the GOP must never mutter the word “impeachment.” The president’s credibility is weakening. If Republicans concentrate on getting the facts out, then no amount of the too-cute-by-half White House spin that was on display Sunday will help him restore it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alan-Zapota/100001509446811 Alan Zapota

    We’re not talking about a bj in the Oval Office, here; we’re talking about EXTREMELY illegal and immoral activity with sinister implications for us ALL. Will all you Republican-bashers really refuse to see that unless/until YOU are the victim, under a future Republican president? Are you really that selfish, shallow, and shitty? I refuse to believe that all Democrats are so willfully ignorant. Surely SOME of you get that just because the neocons are trying to turn the investigations into a circus, that doesn’t make any of these “scandals” any less real nor the prospect of ANY president doing what we’ve seen Bush AND Obama do over the last 12 years any less scary. Even broken politicians are right on occasion by sheer coincidence! And millions of Republicans are as opposed to them as you are, fought them in the proverbial trenches even. When are you going to see that we need to work together to ever change anything?!

  • OpKode

    So, would it still be a “nothingburger” if it was your ideology that was under attack?

  • tax payer

    I call it the Nut House and not the White House.

  • tax payer

    Republicans and Democrats remind me of the Religious Fanatics that feel their church has the better Lord, and it seems to me he is the same one for all of them. Mine is better then yours. No, ours is better and so on.

  • howa4x

    You have your facts mixed up so you must be a tea party member. 1st off the uninsured is made up mostly by people who work for minimum wage and can’t afford $900./month to buy private insurance. Think of all the people who work at Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest employer. Last year because of the greed of the Walton family who are the countries richest, they placed 80% of their workforce on a part time status so they won’t have to pay for health care benefits. The family collectively is worth 74 billion and you would rather give them tax cuts than force them to pay for benefits which you would call tyranny. The poor get Medicaid. Young women who get pregnant usually are coerced by the religious right to have their babies even though they don’t have support. Republicans have never passed a law to have the babies father be financially responsible and the 1st thing they cut is the support system they need. Head start feeds a large number of these kids and the mothers make up the largest group getting ADFC(welfare). The republicans in congress would rather cut this but won’t cut corporate tax write offs for jets. They already have done studies that show if you give kids a healthy breakfast and lunch they can raise their reading scores by 30%. If they can read and understand they have a better chance of getting a job.
    So we have choices. We can either teach teens sex ed to prevent unwanted pregnancies(Republicans are opposed to this) pass out condoms to also protect against an STD, or take the republican way and only teach abstinence, thereby forcing the child to have a child if they make a mistake.
    So mr tax payer which is the most cost effective way to deal with the situation? Stop giving me GOP talking points, and let’s talk about the most cost effective way to get the outcomes that we as a society want.

    • tax payer

      I too would hire workers part-time and save my company money. You have a business to make money and not to be a Charity Organization. People that work part-time get the benefits, so some of them are happy working 20 hours knowing they will eat better than someone working 40 hours and paying more taxes than them.

      • howa4x

        True the business model is to make money, but if business doesn’t give health benefits than the government has to step in and provide them. It is simple.

        • tax payer

          You meant to say ( the tax payers ) because the Government gets the money from us and you. Why should we have to pay for ourselves ( Healthcare ) and for those that don’t buy their own? We feed their families and they get all the benefits allowed by law, and they still keep on breeding babies they know they can never feed on their own. Now, we will have to support the anchor babies of those that will be allowed to stay here, so what is going to happen to this country? Bankruptcy?

          • howa4x

            True we are the government. Giving benefits is part of the cost of doing business. It is actually a tax write off so there is no loss for a business to do it. Every time you let a business off the hook whether for benefits or environmental pollution than we the taxpayers have to pay for it. So they get all the profits and we get all the costs. What is wrong with that picture?. The problem with immigration is that agri business was the 1st to import workers from Mexico so they could pay them less than minimum wage. GWB had a guest worker program so these workers could come here for field work and food processing work. IGA one of the largest meat processers in Colorado fired all it’s union butchers, and imported workers for Mexico. At the 9 month mark when they would have to pay benefits they would fire the workers and import more. they didn’t repatriate them to Mexico, just opened the door and said leave. The workers them became a financial burden for the state. I know no republican wants to hold business accountable, but again every time we don’t we pay. This is what is left out of the immigration debate.

  • Charvi3

    There is a saying…”Give Them Enough Rope”…The Republicans will hang themselves or they will get “impeached”…and since, Obama, is and was a “Constitutional Lawyer”…with the help of the 16th Amendment…he can do this….starting from Congress…..but, he is such an awesome man…still trying to work with these people…and there is another saying…”Stupid does as stupid is and you cannot fix stupid”….and this is what the republicans are…but, just sit back and watch all the “drama” they create…and they are going to be going nowhere….the leaks they are finding are real espionage ones…and that is just too bad….there might be the 1st Amendment Rights…but, the FBI has the right to investigate the leaks….that endangers the American People’s safety….and it is against the laws….I pray they go to jail as Boehner…thinks that the IRS people should be jailed…and it was Congress that has been making cuts to the IRS staffing and Funding…so, as usual.,..Congress don’t want to take the blame…but, they will have too eventually…

  • tax payer

    To think we will have him for only four more years and that to me makes me very happy.

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