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Sunday, September 25, 2016

 

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Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) has warmed Democrats’ hearts for two reasons. First, the Republican Senatorial nominee singlehandedly made Missouri a swing state, instantly reducing his party’s chances of defeating Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) seat and regaining control of the Senate. Second, he did what no elected Republican seems to have the courage to do anymore. Akin stood up to his entire party.

Of course, Akin was in an indefensible position. Suggesting victims of “legitimate rape” do not get pregnant isn’t just inaccurate, it’s appalling. But he didn’t let that stop him.

Republicans immediately sensed the seriousness of the Akin crisis. In a year when Republican policies on birth control and Planned Parenthood threaten a historically wide gender gap at the polls, Akin’s comments confirmed many of the worst clichés about the Grand Old Party. Republican men not only fail to understand how women think,  they simply do not grasp how the female body works. Or they just don’t care.

An equally troubling problem for the GOP is that Akin and Paul Ryan (R-WI), their soon-to-be vice-presidential nominee, share an identical voting record on abortion rights. In fact they’ve worked closely to restrict reproductive freedom. Republicans needed to kill that story, and fast.

When Akin’s attempts to clarify his comments Sunday afternoon revealed that he didn’t grasp why people were so upset,  supporters of the Republicans whom Akin had defeated in the primary began reminding their party that the congressman had until Tuesday at 5 PM Central to drop out.

The clock had started.

Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA), facing a tight race against Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren, was one of the first Republicans to call on Akin to withdraw. That evening the presumptive Republican nominee for president, Mitt Romney, responded to Akin’s outrageous comments as any true leader would — with a angry statement.

“Gov. Romney and Congressman Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin’s statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape,” the statement read. Of course, the statement also included another flip flop. Paul Ryan, up until that moment, had never supported any exceptions in his anti-abortion rights stand.

Notably, the Romney campaign statement did not call on Akin to withdraw.

  • Mitt better watch out, if he angers the evangelicals he is finished. He is walking a tight rope trying to appeal to Independent voters by pretending to reject Akin’s irrational pronouncements, and even the total ban on abortions the GOP introduced as part of their political platform, while pretending he is pro-life…whatever that is.

    • neece00

      I think when he picked Paul Ryan, he lost the independent vote.

    • 13observer

      Where is your pride man? Begging for hand-outs like a bum! Freebees for everyone! What about personal responsibility? Work for a living and if you want better pay from your employer, form a UNION at your workplace! Most of you want to hide behind some “99%” bullsh*t. When UNIONS are strong, everyone is better off. Obama just pays “lip service” to UNION leaders while trying to LEGISLATE higher wages in the form of “minimum wage” increases. Wages and benefits should be NEGOTIATED by UNIONS not our government!

      • huh? – you know NOTHING about Mr. Vila….I doubt that he has EVER asked for a han-out….and BTW – try to stay on topic…you mindless lemming…!

      • highpckts

        130bserver – What gives you the right to assume that anyone who votes for Obama is a bum and asking for handouts! I resent your very condescending attitude and I bet you are a dyed in the wool Republican! We weren’t talking about unions but since you brought it up, the unions were a good thing in their heyday but now, they also have way too much power to sway votes which is wrong! They need to stay out of politics!

        • The working man has been devalued to where he thinks he should kiss the gluteous prominance of the man who gives him a job.
          acutally, it is his efforts that makes the man he works for rich. Every entity seems to have an organization to further their cause and they all send lobbyists to Washington DC, but hypocritically, the person who builds this country with his labors is not supposed to have an organization to send lobbyists to Washington DC.

      • sigrid28

        As my brother and his buddies used to say in 4th grade, “Earth to Private 13observer? Earth to Private 13observer?” The topic is Mitt Romney’s failure to stand up to Todd Akin, not union membership as a fix for the declining wages of the 99%.

    • BDD1951

      I wish we knew how many of these pro-life politicians wives and daughters have had abortions. I’ll bet there is a bunch.

  • old_blu

    Come on Romney are you ever going to grow a pair and tell Akin to get out? You need to tell him to get out without asking someone if it is okay to do.

    • neece00

      He had to ask the money behind his campaign if it was okay to pick Paul Ryan.

      • old_blu

        Exactly, and I think Paul Ryan is just another Sarah Palin with nads, of course I kinda think Sarah has nads too.

    • jarheadgene

      Sorry he is too much of a WIMP! We don’t need one for a President!

      • old_blu

        You are right jarhead. BTW I read one of your comments the other day about how all of your family has served, and how we don’t need a draft dodger in the white house, I wanted to say something then how well said it was and thank you.

        • jarheadgene

          I love this country, I wish more people who were rich would remember we are not 3rd world but we do have our poor, our disabled, and our elderly. If we cannot move to take care of them, then what good are we as a nation? Spoiled punks like ROMNEY have never had to sacrifice via military or by living paycheck to paycheck. Where just before payday you go to the store and you have to make a decision, you need milk, eggs and bread, but you can only afford 2. He has never made too much to qualify for any kind of assistance but barely make enough to cover your needs. He unfortunately seems to have never read Proverbs 14:31 or Mark 12:41-44. Or he would know what judgement he is setting himself up for. He is too busy being a mormon to be a Christian. WE THE PEOPLE need to pull together. Many of the founders of America as a country went broke supplying the Army to fight the British, they were never paid back, they did it for the Idea of a democracy, they knew sacrifice. Do you think the Koch Bros. Romney , Ryan or anyone with their kind of money would do that…..I think NOT!

  • One of the most embarrassing parts of this issue is that Todd Akin is a member of the congressional “science” committee! I wonder if they funded research on the new female mechanism Todd alluded to during his memorable interview…

    • imabrummie

      That this cretin (Akin) is a member of the congressional science committee is about as pathetic as batty Michelle Bachman being on the intelligence committee!

      • Well We Can See What Kind Of Science He Been Learning From NONE!! And Michele Bachmann Is About Intelligent As A Toe Nail Clipping!!!

  • You idiots are disgusting!

    • awakenaustin

      Oooh. Thoughtful statement.
      See your ‘rebel’ doo rag. You know those guys lost. A clear case of the good guys winning one.
      You do understand what bombastic means? (overblown, inflated, pretentious)

  • WhutHeSaid

    One really can’t blame the Republicans too much — they just don’t get it. They do not understand why forced trans-vaginal ultrasounds, unequal pay, and the loss of preventative health care could possibly offend 51% of the voting public (women). These are certified knuckle-dragging throwbacks to a time when minorities rode in the back of the bus and women were forced to be subordinate to men. Is it any wonder that they appear confused about how to respond to Todd Akin?

    The real problem, though, isn’t the Todd Akins of the GOP, rather, it’s players like Paul Ryan. Mr. Ryans record is IDENTICAL to that of Mr. Akin. The only thing that keeps Paul Ryan from asking ‘what’s the big deal?’ is that he has a better knack for politics, having been in Washington for his entire adult career. His beliefs are no different than Todd Akins — despite what he might say in public.

    I personally can’t understand why any woman would vote for the current GOP candidates, but then I’m not a woman and can’t claim to know what it’s like to be one. But I do honestly try to see their point of view, which is more than I could say for Mr. Ryan. As a man I believe that women’s reproductive rights aren’t my business, and that those days should stay in the past where they belong.

    • thank you Sir….I am a woman, and I would not vote for any of these REPugnant politicians were they to put a gun to my head…and neither would my 85 yr old staunch Republican mother who is a devout Mormon and resides in SLC…she told me this weeks ago and I slept better that night with that knowledge….OBAMA gets both of the Gordon womens votes…

      • jarheadgene

        3 cheers for your mom seeing right through these guys.

    • highpckts

      Whuthesaid – You would be amazed at the amount of women who will not buck their husbands political views! Right or wrong, they vote according their husbands beliefs! I know several women like this Such a shame! Even to their own detriment, they will not think for themselves!!

      • WhutHeSaid

        If that is their choice, then so be it I guess. I agree it’s a shame. My problem is when political cretins would remove that choice and force their archaic views on those who would choose differently.

        Abortion is a very difficult topic — even for me — and I can’t imagine the personal anguish and pain that a woman must go through when making such a decision. I believe that the best position for me to take as a man who will never know that pain is to get the hell out of the way and let her do what she believes is right for her. How will I ever know better than her the correct decision?

        • neece00

          Thank you so much whathesaid, for your comment. Amen to that. I am a women and I hope I never have to make that decision but if I do, I would hope that it would be mine and mine alone.

      • voting is a private thing one person in the booth at a time , How would there husbands know who they voted for .

    • montanabill

      I agree with you, Whut. A woman’s reproductive rights aren’t our business, and we shouldn’t have supplement their sexual choices through income taxes either.

      • WhutHeSaid

        Basic health care is more important than cutting taxes for deadbeat millionaires. Since you feel that the poor should finance more dancing horsies for tax evading millionaires, then I’m perfectly happy to insist that you pony up a small share of your ill-gotten wealth to help those who really need it.

        Don’t bother to spew out any of the standard lies about federal tax dollars being used for abortions (they aren’t) or poor people sitting back and paying no taxes (they don’t). Perhaps none of the taxpayers want their taxes to help YOU — especially given your selfish greed — but the way it works is that taxes are used to help all citizens. That’s how this thing works, doesn’t it?

        • montanabill

          Health care is very important, but it has nothing to do with taxes for ‘deadbeat’ millionaires who pay 70% of the support of this country. I’m not one of the social conservatives, but telling me that tax dollars supporting Planned Parenthood isn’t supplementing abortion is like telling me that tax dollars sent to Pakistan don’t make it to radicals. I don’t agree with tax dollars for birth control or Viagra. That is not health care. It is supplementing a life style. But if you and the Democrats insist that my tax dollars must be used for that purpose, then you have made it my business. That’s how it works.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Sure, and tax breaks for more ‘dancing horsies’ is my business. I don’t mind paying for roads, and I know that greedy, unappreciative deadbeats who sucked up my taxes over the years (but who now protest loudly about paying their share of the lowest taxes in 60 years) also use those roads, but that’s how this ‘society’ thingy works.

            Since you’ve often insisted that with your brains and a few ‘magic business beans’ you can sprout entire gardens of successful businesses, I’m not sure why you would worry. But once again, please feel free to relocate to Antarctica where you can sprout endless forests of successful businesses and not have to pay (or use) a single penny in taxes. Since women are not common there, you should happily find birth control to be a moot point.

          • montanabill

            Just to satisfy my curiosity, exactly what tax breaks did the Romney’s get for ‘dancing horsies’?
            Maybe the millionaires don’t pay the level of taxes you would like, but they are paying a greater percentage of the overall taxes than they did 10 years ago. (71% vs 66%) Somebody’s share has decreased, but it is not the top 10%.

          • Try $8000 for the cost of the horse being in the Olympics. It was news.

          • montanabill

            Actually, the deductions are far greater. Dressage is a business much like race horses, except for the prize money. A top warm blood is very expensive. It’s training is even more expensive. Add in the other costs, feed (more than you think), vets, ferriers, stalls, grooming. The only people who make money (if any) in the dressage business are the trainers and the breeders. However, if your income is in the millions and your tax bill is $12 million a year, even a $100,000 deduction is less than 1% of your tax bill and is good only if you had profits from other business ventures to offset it. All this may seem like a lot of money to you, but it is all a matter of perspective. His $12 million/year tax bill probably seems equally high compared to yours.

          • jarheadgene

            Yes but their income increased by 276% ….that may be slightly off I will find the number and edit. READ Proverbs 14:31 and Mark 12:41-44 then let’s see your comeback.

          • montanabill

            Here’s a simple fact of life. If you are paying the lion’s share for anything, you can bet you want a significant say in the operation. If you really want the 10% to pay more than 71% of the taxes, you had better be prepared for them to want more say in how it is spent. Most of you are complaining that the rich have too much say now, but do you really think it will get better if they have to pay more? If you think they should give more and have less influence, you had better take a history lesson in how things have worked for the last 10,000 years.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Here’s an even simpler fact: 1.

            That’s how many votes you get whether you pay $1 or $1,000,000 in taxes. That’s how this country was designed to work. You may not like it, but that’s just too bad for you — America isn’t a plutocracy. Once again, I suggest that you consider Antarctica if this democracy thing isn’t to your liking.

          • montanabill

            Just a minor point, this country is a Republic not a Democracy. It was not designed to work as a true democracy. And I gather from your attitude that you feel the laws of nature should be suspended because you don’t agree with them. Good luck with that.

          • WhutHeSaid

            Greed isn’t a ‘law of nature’ — it’s just greed. Sorry ’bout your luck.

          • Romney Wife Stated That She Needed The Horse To Help Her!!LOL What A Bunch Of Bullshit!! He Have Been Taken All Kinds Of Loopholes To Avoid Paying His Fair Share!! If They Don’t Like The Taxes Here Why Don’t They Just LEAVE!!! They Got Most Of The Money Which They Made From The Middle Class And Poor Working People!! That’s Why They Should Pay More!!

          • montanabill

            For a supposedly open minded and sympathetic liberal, you obviously know very little about therapeutic riding or the disease that Ann Romney suffers from.
            Do you take any tax deductions? If you do, that’s a ‘loophole’ and you are avoiding paying your ‘fair share’. Do your homework, the Romney’s got their money from their company which was not funded by ‘the middle class’ or the ‘working poor’. It created far more jobs than were lost. If you are not paying any taxes, then be glad there are people like the Romney’s who pay millions each year so that you can enjoy the public facilities that you use. Stop with the wealth envy. It makes you look small.

    • I Would NEVER Vote For These Terrorists And Any Woman Who Do Needs Her Ass Kicked!!! We Come A Long Way Back And We The Smart Women Of America Will Not Be Voting For These Demons NEVER!!!

    • WHS, excellent post. I believe, however, that the real problem is not people like Akin, Ryan, West, Bachmann, Palin and just about the entire Tea Party membership, but the people that listen to them and believe what they say. That is the real threat to our freedom and democracy and since it is influenced by ignorance, greed, intolerance, prejudice and an absolute lack of compassion for our fellow man that is not something that can be fixed in two months or two years. The status quo will prevail until a new generation of Americans, educated and accustomed to cultural diversity, open to criticisms, willing to explore alternatives or better ways to achieve individual and national goals, comes to age and takes over where Jurassic Park left off.

      • WhutHeSaid

        I agree, but I also feel that the generation of whom you speak is already here — and they are listening. I never believed that I would see a black President in my lifetime until 2008. Your posts are always filled with great points, and you can believe that this newest generation reads them — they’re utterly at home in cyberspace.

        • jarheadgene

          Yes….what both of you said….I never thought I would see, in my lifetime, an African American in The White House. The younger generation got him there ….some have turned in impatience. But now it is time for OUR GENERATION the Children of the GREATEST GENERATION to stand up and keep him there. We at the cusp of retirement age will have little to retire on if ROMNEY and RYAN get their hands on our social programs of
          SSI, Medicare and Medicaid. They don’t need it so they don’t care. I have worked had and looked forward to not worrying about those safety nets. But now these WALL STREET theives in politicians clothing are threatening that saftey. WE THE PEOPLE must vote …OBAMA 2012.

    • This coming day of utter trainwreck for the neocons has been coming ever since they started.

      And, “gentlemen”? The Revolution will be streaming.

      • S-3

        Streaming is a good start to what you’re getting at – but I fee lsome violence might help out our cause, too… The tree of revolution source of life and all…

  • ChicagoGirl2975

    Unfortunately, there are many women just a stupid as Todd Akin. I moved from Chicago to Utah (HUGE culture shock!) and I would have to say that most of the women in this state are quite happy to be subservient to their men. The LDS culture is one of absolute submission and non-thinking. (When in a discussion about some of the rules of the religion and why they need to change, I was told “People should not question the religion, they should leave it and find another one.”). This is what our country is up against. People who don’t think, don’t want to think and don’t want most people to think – just follow blindly. The legacy of religion.

    • BDD1951

      I suppose in Utah they may be like that. But, I used to have Morman neighbors and I guarantee she was never subservient to him.

      • jarheadgene

        I would be surprised if she is still a mormon then.

        • BDD1951

          They were devout mormans. Unfortunately they are no longer with us. She played the piano in church.

          • jarheadgene

            That is TRULY the saddest thing I have read ALL DAY.

      • ChicagoGirl2975

        Actually, you are on point. I knew Mormons in Illinois and they were not the same as those here in Utah.

    • I Beg To Differ You Must Be On The Wrong Side Of Town!!! I Live Here All My Life My Friend And Family Bow Down To NO ONE Matter Of Fact Two month Ago A Man Got Ran Over By His Wife He Tried To Block Her From Voting!!

  • Mitty boy will say or do ANYTHING and he proves it daily. Even start another war – as he suggested to Israel’s leaders. Of course, HIS sons won’t serve, as will NONE of the high monkey mucks in the repgunican party. Yes they are repugnant. Women, where are you? GET OUT THERE AND VOTE THESE IDIOTS OFF. Our lives depend on it, and so do thousands upon thousands of decent folk. Seniors? You get. People without jobs? You bet. I hope the dems let the budget “fall off the cliff” and then see how long it takes these dim wits to act or do ANYTHING that might be helpful to this country. All they’ve done for 3 yeers is obstruct. That’s their only agenda….to he.. with you.

  • The EVIL taht men do, LIVES after them. Hello? The GOP is packed with evil minded ultra conservatives. The GOP HATES the poor, the minority, the Sr. Citizens, Latinos, Blacks, & the Unemployed. Now What? God fervently dislikes those HURTING His voiceless Children. THEREFORE, the GOP “”MUST”” pay the hefty price!
    God bless America!

  • joyscarbo

    I think the abortion issue is the only issue that we all know where republicans stand. But now we can add what the definition of “rape” is. Ryan supported a bill that talked about “forcible rape,” as opposed to what? Friendly rape? Voluntary rape? The new verbage is meerly symantex in the neverending effort to make all kinds of abortion illegal. So we women would be forced to carry and deliver our rapist or our pediphiles child. It’s well-known that our country has decided over and over again that- by majority-abortion should remain legally available so that it can continue to be medically safe.
    I’ve been lambasted here because I’m Pro-Choice and I really don’t give a flying fig who likes it and who doesn’t.

    • jarheadgene

      Good for you….stand your ground for what you believe in! Akin is showing more leadership than ROMNEY, because he is standing his ground…..that still doesn’t mean he isn’t an idiot. And now we know even more how “Etcha Sketch” reacts under scrutiny and pressure.

      • No Surprise Romney Been Flip Flopping His Way Thru-out His Whole Life In Order To Be Liked And Money!!

    • neece00

      I agree with you whole heartedly, joyscarbo. I am also pro-choice and I don’t care a flying fig whether they like it or not.

  • “Hang in there Todd (Akin). I’m with you all the way” – Clare McCaskill.

    From time to time a teabagger like Akin tells us what they (collectively) really think and we are repelled. When that happens the other republicans sense the damage and run for the hills. The cowards. Limbaugh and Hannity are quietly delighted that one of their own has the courage (read: stupidity) to come out with the truth as they see it in their bizarre world. Paul Ryan publicly denounced Akin’s comments but privately applauds him for having the courage of his convictions which he (Ryan) and Romney lack.

    It must be hard to be a teabagger at times like this.

  • 13observer

    On topic? You must mean like democrats do when they shift focus from “fast and furious”, unemployment, gas prices, illegal immigration and the economy to candidate Akin’s mis-speaking even though V.P. Biden references “negros put back in chains”. It’s all about the “double standard” for democrats! Is that on topic enough?

    • BDD1951

      Were you born after 2008? This time in 2008 gas prices were almost $4.00 a gal. Oh but we had a republican president, so that’s okay.

    • I remember when gasoline was nearly $4/gal in 2008. The stock market was going down every day and I lost a bundle in the stock market. Banks were deregulated and since they are so honest they immediately took advantage of the deregulation and were competing with Las Vegas by voting on derivitives and giving out bad loans.

    • old_blu

      That is not what Biden said, you better look down cuz your pants are on fire liar, liar.

    • old_blu

      I notice you don’t have an answer for any of the comments directed back at you, so in my book that makes you a troll.

  • highpckts

    Chicago – Religion is the cause of all “sheepiness”! My brother is a Jehovah Witness and they don’t believe in voting!! They do believe in complaining about government though! The problem with religion is they tend to forget about the separation of church and state! All of them keep pushing for changes that they have no busines asking, but because politicians are afraid of losing a vote they go along with them. What they don’t see is, that in doing so they are angering many other voters! I for one and sick and tired of all their beliefs being forced on me. This is indeed all about religion which has no place in this government! I have a good relationship with my God and I don’t need a priest, clergy pastor, or politician telling me how to live my private and moral life!

    • BDD1951

      They don’t mind taking advantage of the free school lunches that the government offers either. I am a retired school cafeteria manager and I know about The Jehovah witnesses filing for free lunch. Fortunately for me I have great Neighbors who are JW. Since I am a widow they always make sure that I am okay. Incidently they bought the Mormans house.

  • 13observer

    UNIONS are the only reason workers have anything today! The lack of UNIONS only hurts workers and leads to just what we have in a poor economy. The government needs to stay out of trying to legislate collective bargaining! I was a democrat until recently when I realized Obama and the democratic party was not concerned about LABOR issues, rather a “fast track” to welfare for everyone at the expense of those wealthy or working. We have a process protected by law that allows for collective bargaining with employers. The problem is Americans through the democratic party want welfare without work and that is what seperates us! Giving illegal aliens “special” treatment while they continue to undermine all that organized labor has worked decades to develope speaks of a “socialist” or “communist” dictatorship.

    • jarheadgene

      I would agree on some of your point re: Unions…If it weren’t the the NLRB Act of 1935 where would we be….All working in sweat shops for pennies….unless you are a ROMNEY and alike. But you’re pretty washed up on your view points re welfare, especially in light of
      the fact that all those “JOB CREATORS” that have been enjoying low taxes, since BUSH, have laid off so many and not re-hired. You must have missed where Bill Clinton basically called Romney a liar re welfare reform and Obama. But when your TV channel is stuck on FOX and ESPN nascar….what can one expect?

  • 13observer

    Don’t worry, gas prices will be high before November 6th

  • 13observer

    When people can’t afford to put gas in the car, STILL don’t have a job, have had their guns taken away, are watching illegal aliens stealing their jobs and feeling the crunch of an economic crisis like no other……they won’t give a fu*k about what Todd Akin said!

    • jarheadgene

      YOU ARE RIGHT…..That is what the DEMOCRATS have been trying to tell the STALLED CONGRESS led by BOEHNER……We DON’T CARE ABOUT THE STUPIDY OF AKIN OR RYAN…..but that is all they have been voting on for years……WHERE is the LEGISLATION to CREATE JOBS?

    • You know, 13observer, who besides felons have had their guns taken away? Who took them away?

      I’ll try to make this as simple as faux news does their propaganda: The economy is not built top down, but bottom up. Employed persons are paying taxes to pay down the deficit. They buy things and business needs consumers, not speculators.

      fourteen stimulus packages have been presented, to put people to work. 14 times it was voted down by the house. In order to extend unemployment benefits, the president compromised and kept the Bush tax cuts. The Bush administration enacted those trickle down taxes in 2001 to jump start the economy. They lowered the “job creators” taxes quite a bit. Now those tax breaks are still in place. If they were a good thing wouldn’t we have a boom instead of a bust? Romney and Ryan want to lower the top earners even more. What must happen to let you know that it doesn’t work. If it worked, it would be working. Obama can’t do the things that would be good for the economy with the tea party republicans voting down every thing he tries to do. Congress has a 9% approval rating. Doesn’t that tell you anything?

      As far as you people who say the top 1% is paying 70% of the taxes: one topper added up everything he pays in taxes, from property tax, sales tax, motor vehicle tax and supposed luxury tax. We could all do that. However, the taxes we are talking about are income taxes.

    • old_blu

      @130berver– Do you really think they will take your guns? Right wing tea baggers have been saying that for years and just trying to scare people, cuz it won’t happen, it will not happen as long as there are people like me and there will always be people like me, all you jackass’s do is drive up the cost of guns and ammo.

      Come and get my guns, I double dog dare you.

  • howa4x

    Welcome to the republican swamp. There are sink holes and quick sand everywhere so one needs to be careful where he steeps. Akin is a sink hole that could swallow up Mitts entire campagin by constnatly focusing the issue on abortion rather than the economy. Ryan represents the quick sand since his veiws are identical to Akins. Here is a case where bold leadership would find a root or limb to drag oneself out but our guide is not bold. He belives in magic and thinks that will work better. That magic being that if you just wish for somethingto happen it will,kinda like a State Farm commercial. Sadly though he will still sink because the media dosen’tbelive in this magic of taking a hardend advocate of no exception abortion and turn him more to a place more moderate, and they will keep pulling him down as long as Akin is around. So this is a slow death because Akin is hanging on the edge of the sink hole and has not fallen in, and is yelling for help. Mitt is up to his ankles already. So is it the bold move, or the magic.
    Which one do you think it will be

  • 13observer

    Can anyone spell or (smell) DIVERSION.

  • 13observer

    If you had given all that investment capital to charities, you wouldn’t have lost so much. You rich people should give till it hurts because I want to live on welfare and not have to work for it like President Obama wants.

    • BDD1951

      That is such a lie. And it will come back to haunt the the republicans when we get to the debates. All of the republican lies will have to be justified by R&R. President Obama has never struck down the law that says you have to work for welfare.

    • old_blu

      Liar, liar pants on fire.

    • 13obs: I used to work for Health and Welfare and your ideas are kind of stoolish. There are people doing vital jobs for this economy that don’t make enough and have to go on food stamps. President Obama has said that he wants to make education affordable so everyone has a chance at the American Dream. I did know people who milked the system, but I knew many more who was ashamed they had to ask for help. All generalities are lies and your generalizations about who is on welfare is a lie. Yes, there are abusers. There is also the abuser millionaire in Texas who bought 8,000 acres to let go fallow so he could get land bank money. There are as many creep in the upper income brackets (Maybe more) than in the lower income brackets. Everything, you say, is filtered through your biases so you wouldn’t know what truth looks like.

  • 13observer

    How is taxing the rich going to bring jobs back? What create government jobs for illegal aliens? Until ALL Americans have a job….illegal aliens should have none! What Obama is saying is; as long as I can get votes from the “marginal” hispanic population, I will provide “amnesty” and welfare for all regardless of what a burden it puts on our social welfare programs and the affect it has on our “CITIZENS”. I want you to debate me on illegal immigration……please….please!

    • ExPAVIC

      13

      Read something other than American Taliban Republican pamphlets, the Wall Street Rag, and stop relying on Fox No News.

      Tax the rich to put that money into the treasury instead of the hands of foreign car dealers where the rich buy their cars.

      Jobs not for illegals, but the fact remains that 40% of all new businesses are started by Hispanics.

      Illegals are still being sent home or didn’t you learn that from the Taliban literature?

      Ready to debate you anytime, anywhere, but you better read up some more. Your information base sucks.

  • 13observer

    Don’t talk to me about jobs until the “illegal immigration” issue is fixed! And I don’t mean “AMNESTY” either!

    • ExPAVIC

      13

      What? Is your brain stuck on dumb? Just like your buddy RoMoney.

  • phantomoftheopera

    i get the feeling that the gop men believe women are around solely to please and to serve them. they seem to believe that if a woman has sex, she should pay the price, ie pregnancy. if gop women would wake up and refuse sex to their ‘men’ unless they, and all other women, have birth control access, that might change.,

    • ExPAVIC

      NEWS

      All American Taliban Republican women attending the convention will be required to wear black burqas on the convention floor.

  • MBM

    Let’s take ‘abortion’ out of the equation and just look at the language used here. “Legitimate rape” by Akin or defining “forcible rape” by Ryan. Rape is Rape, just as No means No. No need for definitions or qualifiers. Too many caveats by these archaic blowhards is reminiscent of accusing the victim of “asking for it” or “deserving” to be violated. If we leave it up to these twisted, perverted neanderthals, before long we will be facing the Taliban solution of forcing the victim to marry the rapist. And don’t count on Mitt to think on his feet-it takes a panel of experts to ponder extensively to inform him of what he thinks on a particular subject at any particular moment.

  • npeebles

    I find both Romney and Ryan repugnant. They both appear to be entitled emotionally retarded adults who don’t have a clue as to how to play in the sand box. However, on the issue of abortion, I have to say that as a male, it amazes me how many men feel that they are not impacted by abortion. It is not just the woman who is having an abortion. The man is also having an abortion. And, yet, we get no say so at all. However, if the woman decides not to have the abortion, too bad for you Mister. You are going to support this ‘fetus’ for the next 18 years. I personally think that abortion should be decided by the three people involved – the mother, the father, and the child. All three must have reached the legal age of 18. If any two decides that the other has not done his or her job, then, before a judge and jury, that one not in compliance should be tried and if found guilty, aborted. And, BTW, for those of you who might suggest that I keep my hands off of a woman’s body, my response to you is that it concerns me not at all if a woman chooses to destroy or abort her own body. My concern is the child. For, that little one has no voice.

    • WhutHeSaid

      You sound pretty young and immature regarding women, my friend. NOBODY likes abortion. Yet nature has seen fit to place the responsibility of carrying a child to term 100% on the woman, therefore, it makes sense that she has the best insight into her particular situation.

      Men do not suffer abortions as women do, and sometimes the woman has no real choice at all. Women die due to childbirth complications all the time, and rapists don’t really much care about what happens to either the woman or any possible child born due to their crime.

      Nobody that I know of advocates forcing a woman to have an abortion, yet some (such as yourself) attempt to force their views on the woman when she may or may not decide that it is necessary. I don’t think anyone has the right to force their wishes on another person when it carries the risk of death.

      Don’t like the fact that nature made women the child-bearers? Keep it in your pants or have a gender reassignment operation so that you can complain bitterly about your own body. Otherwise, grow up.

      • CAThinker

        Well said WHS…

  • ROMNEY…YOU’RE A PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR ANYTHING PRESIDENTIAL. HELL, YOU’RE NOT EVEN A LIKEABLE MAN! YOUR POLITICS ARE DEPLORABLE, YOUR FINANCIAL DEALINGS DIRTY…AND YOUR CHARACTER AS A MAN EMBARRASSING…AHHH, BUT YOU’VE GOT MONEY AND RICH BENEFACTORS WHO ARE HELL BENT ON BUYING YOU THE WHITE HOUSE, AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST, YOU REJECT THE COMMON PRACTICE OF TRANSPARENCY AND SPIT IN THE FACE OF PRECEDENCE…… I THINK NOT!
    Montgomery Frazier “The Image Guru”

    • ExPAVIC

      VERY NICE

      I couldn’t have said it better myself and this writer has been a professional (technical writer) for almost thirty years.

  • This whole “Republicans Pile on Todd Akin for saying what they all believe and just enshrined in their party platform” kerfluffle should be called out for what it is:

    2012’s “Sister Souljah moment.”

    Only Akin didn’t get the memo and throw himself under their bus of hypocrisy — so now Republicans get to spend all the days leading up to their convention choosing sides and walking back their statements and fatuously declaring that, indeed, “rape is rape.”

    Of course, as soon as the conventions are over, count on the RNC and Crossroads/Crossroads GPS to quietly reinvest in Missouri all the money and ad buys they so loudly withdrew.

  • 13observer

    The only reason Obama wants to keep the “extended” unemployment benefits is because if not for them….the “illegal” immigration factor would be exposed for what it is and any chance of “reform” (amnesty) would be gone. We can no longer afford to supplement unemployed U.S. workers just to allow illegal aliens the opportunity to work and live off our welfare system until it becomes BROKE!

  • jarheadgene

    Wohhh slwo down a minute there 13O ….. for your own sanity sake let me clear up something for you. You may have read a post or two of mine about being Native American, My paternal grandfather is FULL BLOODED NATIVE. But my maternal side is mixed between NATIVE and Spanish/Mexican…..Mexican as in…TEXAS before the Bushes or the Rick Perry’s ancestory were probably even in America. As a result I look hispanic but YOU would probably just call me an illegal Mexican, if you saw me on the street,and you would be wrong. There is nothing Marginal about the hispanic population…that is why as of yesterday Romney has committed himself to trying to get their vote, He is now know as Mr. ZERO when it comes to blacks. The hispanic vote usually votes in heavy blocks and so far they find no appeal with him as a block of voters. When we speak spanish to each other, we aren’t always chatting about the weather or the price of beans. WE know Romney looks at us as strictly servants that should remain servants……The outcomes of this election may surprise you. Was it Alabama that went overboard on kicking illegal aliens out, not even to be used for farm work…and had $3 billion in lost revenue for agriculture? And that was after the farmers tried to hire Americans only, most barely lasted a day in the fields.

  • jarheadgene

    Or how about Michael Dell of Dell Corp. That just ’cause he throws some feed out now and again, on his vast hunting land, he writes it of as some kind of cattle ranch. Don’t believe me check out Forbes magazine…..WE THE PEOPLE would like to see a flat tax…..everyone pays the same percentage. NO LOOPHOLES. I’ve heard it said by GOP members the RYAN plan calls for closing loopholes…..hahhahhsah guess which “loopholes” their talking about? Our middle class interest on mortgages. Beware this guy will END the MIDDLE Class.

  • 13observer

    Question, why is Obama allowing the “dreamers” illegal aliens to stay and work when so many of our people are unemployed? For political gain….is the answer! These illegals are put such a burden on our system that our own children (legal) play second to illegals. Yes, they get food stamps, pre-natal care the whole boat buddy! Yes I spent enough time in administration of these programs to know.

  • 13observer

    I think you are confused about my connection to guns! I am a member of the N.R.A. because they are the lobbying organization that protects our rights. I know as I have lobbyed in D.C. on other issues and have witnessed the N.R.A. fight to keep our rights. There are conctant attempts from animal rights groups that want our guns along with various other anti-gun groups fighting every day to take our Second Amendment rights. If not for the N.R.A. you simply would not be allowed to own a gun period! I hope you are a member. if not, better join! The democrats have always been about disarming the public….you know it as well as I. I was on the democrats central committee and I was never successful at getting them to remove anti-gun bills from the platform.

    • 13observer, you never answered my question. Who has taken your guns or anyone else’s guns away from them?

      My cousin has one of the largest gun collections in the United States, but he is not a gun nut.

  • 13observer

    Some of the bullsh*t I will not dignify with an answer, but for you bro….bring it!

  • 13observer

    So you think illegal aliens are providing 40% of the new jobs?

  • 13observer

    Wait and see them “tap-out” the programs nationally like they have in the “people’s republic of California”. Why everyone kisses their ass, I’ll never know! Illegal is illegal…period.

  • 13observer

    Please understand, a good defense is a pro-active offense. If you know anything about the anti-gun crowd you would know that Hillary Clinton was trying desperately to give our Second Amendment freedoms to the United Nations for their determination (small arms treaty)where they would rule on our rights to possess guns. No one has taken away my guns YET but be assured, just like illegal immigration happened….no one was watching or cared enough….and all of a sudden……12-20 million here and now Obama wants to give them amnesty! Don’t tell me my rights and freedoms are not threatened….I’m just not going to sit on my ass and watch that happen too!

  • SaneJane

    Republican wives who stifle their own opinions to follow their husbands lead need to remember one thing, the voting booth is private.

  • rockyventi

    Republican men probably get a lot closer to naked women than democratic men do. Mostdemocratic men have women bodies or are homos like obama.

  • nomaster

    Willard the Rat man doesn’t believe in anger anyone in his base. It’s just another case of flip flop mouth diease or is that hoof and mouth disease?