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Friday, October 19, 2018

Constantly ranting against the woman he smeared as “Crooked Hillary,” Donald Trump insisted that her alleged disclosures of classified information — although unintentional, harmless, and ultimately deemed innocent — were serious felonies for which she ought to be sent to prison. “Hillary Clinton’s corruption is on a scale we have never seen before,” he sputtered. “We must not let her take her criminal scheme into the Oval Office.”

But now Trump evidently believes that David Petraeus — who pled guilty to charges that he intentionally revealed classified information to his mistress — could be trusted to assume the highest position in the Pentagon or perhaps the State Department, according to news outlets. The retired general, who commanded US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan before serving as CIA director under President Obama, reportedly came very close to a felony conviction that would have sent him to prison for leaking top secrets.

FBI investigators and Justice Department prosecutors wanted to indict Petraeus, and he only escaped that humiliating fate through a plea bargain — a deal achieved, ironically enough, by David Kendall, the same Washington attorney who represented Hillary Clinton.

When Obama accepted Petraeus’ resignation from the CIA four years ago, the ostensible reason was the exposure of an extramarital affair with his biographer Paula Broadwell. But a lengthy FBI investigation revealed that he had leaked classified documents to her, which were found on her computer, and that he had also given her access to his CIA email account. The matter never went to trial, so the Justice Department presented no evidence concerning the nature of those documents or the damage their disclosure might have inflicted on US national security.

Trump and other Republicans have wrongly compared Clinton’s alleged offenses with those confessed by Petraeus, claiming that he was treated unfairly while she escaped punishment. But the differences are enormous, and point in Clinton’s favor. Unlike her case, there was no question that Petraeus knew the leaked documents were classified — nor that he gave them intentionally to his mistress, who lacked any security clearance. And Petraeus lied to FBI investigators to cover up his actions, as he later admitted.

Last year, the New York Times reported that career prosecutors and FBI officials were angry because Petraeus was allowed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor and avoid trial, although lower-level officials whose offenses were less egregious faced much harsher treatment. In the end, he was sentenced to probation and a large fine.

So while Trump has insisted all year that he wants to lock up Hillary Clinton — who did nothing that remotely resembles the egregious conduct of Petraeus — he now is considering whether to appoint Petraeus to one of the most sensitive jobs in government. It is not at all clear, as The Intercept observed, that the former CIA chief could even qualify for the security clearances required to occupy a cabinet post.

To float Petraeus’ name for such a position represents a new peak of hypocrisy, even for Donald Trump. It is a kind of achievement, perhaps the only kind we can expect from him. Nobody should be surprised if the Senate Republicans who would have to confirm Petraeus go along with this charade, despite their own fervent denunciations of Clinton. They are all capable of the same bogus indignation as their new president-elect.

That doesn’t mean Petraeus wouldn’t face any problems with his fellow Republicans. Just last summer, the former general joined with former NASA astronaut Mark Kelly, husband of Gabby Giffords, and a group of veterans from all service branches to form a new organization called Veterans Coalition for Common Sense, which advocates stronger gun laws. Mishandling classified documents is apparently no big deal, unless your name happens to be Clinton. But sane views on gun control are sure to provoke real outrage.

131 Responses to Trump Considers Petraeus – Who Pled Guilty To Classified Leaking – For Top Position

    • Oh puhlease. The problem with Dogmeat is that he believes he is so privileged that all rules and regulations are not for him. Just for the rest of us.

      Petraeus got nailed for sending classified information in emails….the very thing these Mutton Chops and Corn Pones nailed Hillary with. Now they are pretending it’s all fine and dandy?

      Where the hell is ISIS when we need them?

      • No, ISIS is just going to sit back as far as the U S is concerned and let us do it to ourselves.
        They might still do their thing in the Middle East, but as far as the U S is concerned, why should they try and stop the U S from digging a hole to put it’s own head in the sand.
        Many talk about ISIS as a way to scare the U S population.
        Although we have had our share of ISIS sympathiers, nationwide, I doubt there has been more than 50 in the enitre country.

        • Actually, if Trump refuses to include the Republicans, mouths off like he always does, we get to beat hell out of the southern and midwestern Republicans who elected him illegally.

          Come on …let’s stop playing games with these turds of the right. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by over 1 million but the Electoral College that the RNC bribed with payoffs gives a mentally insane nut the presidency?

          • Hmmm, I have read that she was about 350-to 400 thousand popular votes ahead of Trump.
            Don’t know if Trump and team bribed anyone.
            Besides, we all knew that he would handily win the south.
            But those people in Pennsyvania, Winsconsin and Michigan and possibly Ohio? Those are the states that surprised me. I don’t know, but have the final count in Michigan been rendered?
            Even if it has, she would have enough electorial votes to put a dent in the presidency.
            Oh, well, remember what happened the last time a president won the presidency because of the electorial college.
            We ended up involved in a war that we are involved in today.
            And not to forget our economy was a bust.
            Maybe when those republicans start to lose their relatives because of Trump, they will begain to see the errors of their ways.
            But as far as the south are concered, they are still fighting the Civil War.
            You can’t do much about deliberate ignorance and stupidity.

          • According to the FEC, Hillary has over 21 million popular votes and Trump only has 20 million. She is way ahead of him in popular votes. The worst case scenario is that if the middle aged punks fixed or bribed the Electoral College, they risk not only prison but being lynched.

          • No, Hillary has 2.5M votes and is leading Trump in the popular vote by a wide margin! We can only hope that the recount efforts by Stein and Hillary will give HER the upper hand! It would be interesting if Trump got thrown out of his “president elect” position because of recounts. You can bet that he’d be asking for recounts of the recounts and would be threatening to sue each state for “illegal votes.”

          • My money is on the RNC and Priebus bribing the Electoral College electors. Even though Hillary already had more than the number needed to win the popular vote, they hamstrung this election just like they did in 2000 and 2004 by using the Electoral College.

            The RNC knew they wouldn’t win by popular vote. Their only alternative was to rig the Electoral College votes. That’s why the Russians and WikiLeaks participated in the hacking of DNC emails. They wanted to know who Clinton votes were so they could delete and alter votes and also determine who would be the EC electors. The math never added up. But the right wing and Hick Stars and Bars states think we don’t have math skills.

            All they ever had to do was butter the right electors palms and they had their win with the EC. If it is found that a single dime was paid to any EC elector, the entire election goes to Hillary.

          • Actually, right now she’s 2M votes over Trump. She was the candidate that won the popular vote and should be in the office! as it stands, we should be back in a recession in about a year from now….I’m taking bets on this one!

          • Iinteresting, today I heard that Jill Stein is waging a recount in Michigan, Wisconsin and one other state.
            Don’t know what the outcome might be.
            It was reported that such an endeavor ould cost a lot of money, millions. I don’t hink Jill is doing this for her benifit, but if there is a chance that such a venture could benefit Clinton, she would definitely owe Stein, ‘BIGLY’.

          • I’ve heard that too, but Trump is screaming bloody murder and saying that the recount is a scam and that HE won the popular votes and that California and the other overly Democratic states didn’t give him the vote because of illegal voters. So interesting….if the shoe were on the other foot, he’d be screaming for recounts himself, but when Hillary and Stein do it….it’s a scam! He’s such a mental case!

          • Yes he does have a mental problem, but opportunism is a big flaw of his.
            He sits back and look at all the problem and laws in this country and find a way to exploit them.
            As he said, when he got that $50 million, he was smart to take advantage of the laws that were on the books.
            He’s not finished yet neither as he is saying that he will run govt business out of his penthouse in NY.
            As Noah pointed out, he will be charging the U S govt rent for secret service personel who will be protecting him when they occupy one of the floors in his tower.
            NY city is paying it’s police force extra money to provide him protection while he is NY.
            There should be something on the books that says the President has to stay in the White House to conduct business.
            Otherwise there will be extra monies paid for the equipment needed to be used conduct business that is already available in the White House.
            Also, just think, if he is needed in Washington DC and if he is in New York, think of the cost it will be to continuing to flying back and forth. Will he be using his plane or have to use Air Force One.
            There is so many things Trump can capitalize on to fill his pockets.
            He will make Barney Madoff look like a novice because everything he does will be ‘lawfull’, sadly.
            But as for you and I with our chats, it’s like preaching to the choir.
            Many people are not willing to see they (we) are being used by a master con man.
            He conned white American to join him (and yes I know there are others that voted for him) but whites overwhelming is responsible for the hole we will dig for ourselves, and I wonder when they will be honest with the reason why.

      • And trump will continue to act with greater impunity because no one will question him, least of all DC Democrats, Eleanor. They’re already genuflecting and saying that he deserves to have his own team. This is how fascism and a coup arrives in America.

        • No big mouth..HC is not guilty of anything. If she was, your asshats of the GOP wouldn’t be in such a hurry to deny her the right to due process of law. Now can you shut your face or do you need your elders to do it for you?

    • Birds of a feather flock together. None of us who were raised to know right from wrong will support him in any way. The election was never about this country. It was about smashing democracy and equality and replacing it with Oligarchy.

  1. BUT, just maybe Trump wants to get a perspective, of what he needs to know in talking to Petraeus’s, to make further decisions. A GOOD LEADER looks at ALL sides to make the best decisions.
    People are just too quick to criticize and should wait to see before opening their mouth.
    Most of the naysayers, have not done any big business decisions, like Trump has done!
    Please have some patience.

    • Or maybe you need to just stop trying so hard to prove that wrong is right? Maybe you need to stop your lying? Did you forget it was Petraeus who used emails to his girlfriend to send classified information? Not that ignorant bulls like you give a damn one way or the other about right or wrong…For your kind all you care about is getting YOUR way.

      He is not my president. I am not going to unlearn everything I was taught about what is right and what is wrong.

      You had the balls to go after Hillary and now you are glossing over Petraeus’s email? Here stupid, from Wikipedia…Try and deny that too like you deny everything else you hicks do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petraeus_scandal

      • He’s not lying, at least not deliberately, he just don’t know any better.
        I have looked over some of things Trump supporters have said to justify him, and I admit some of the rationalizations seemingly come from some plot on a TV program in which the desired results will be made in a dramatic fashion in the span of an hour complete with the dramatic sounds as if a point has been made.
        Yeah, on TV it has.
        With the advent of so called realitic TV of all kinds, people who don’t try hard enough, don’t get that it is just entertainment and not real. But there are many who think these programs are based on something that actually happened in real life and not the creativity of the writers.
        So here you have a TV character, Trump, and him promising to do all of these things to help them, in the span of what? a phone call? and they will be all happy with filled pockets.
        What gets me is the many people who should know better or who should have known better, voted for him in groves.
        As one person wrote during the primaries, ‘never under estimate the stupididy of the American public.

        • It serves no purpose to enable any man to use the excuse, “he doesn’t know any better.” Not when guys like Petraeus and Trump had more educational advantages than all of the women in the US combined.

          Prediction: Trump will now defy everyone, including the Republicans, in his brazen, ruthless attempts to run a government on our tax dollars for his own personal business needs.

          How will we know what he is discussing in the privacy of that penthouse in Trump Tower? How do we know the meeting with the Japanese leaders with his daughter Ivanka sitting in was not a way to get Ivanka’s shoe business forced on the Japanese?

          We don’t. Is that what our taxes pay for? To be always used like dockside harlots and kept in the dark on OUR tax dollars?

          • Oh, I wasn’t defending him or anyone who who thinks like him/them.
            I was only point out their obvious ignorance, when they think they are being ‘smart’.
            I fear that many Americans are going to get caught up in the finanicial hole by trying to play the same income tax shenanigans as Trump, because he said he was being smart to avoid paying taxes.
            Only with them, it won’t work out so well.
            Like I said, they don’t know any better.
            One can’t try and put themselves on the same level as a man who has nothing to lose and a huge safely net if he does, compared to those who have everything and the roof over their heads if they try to do the same.
            But this is kind of the B/S that folks hear when they listen to Trump.
            And remember, many of his average followers don’t bother to read the small print or don’t know how.
            Like I said, they don’t know any better.

      • TBS wants approval of a man who 3 times flipped the bird at the U.S. Treasury warnings to stop allowing his Middle Eastern High Rollers to launder money in the Taj Mahal casino.

        When Trump kissed up to these Middle Eastern emirs and pashas, he proves what a liar he is. Now, he turns on them because he allowed their money laundering to terrorists and now he is trying to wipe all of HIS own culpability away and get even for having to pay a $22 million FinCEN fine.

        This is Trump all the way. He does things and gets others to take the blame and pay up for the decisions he makes.

        TBS is not going to be a target of another terrorist attack. It’s easy for those who live in the south and midwest to pretend it won’t ever happen there. But think about it. If there is another terrorist attack, it will be massive…bigger than the one on 9/11.

    • Trump’s “big business decisions” primarily consist of determining when he’s reached the limit of his scamming and it’s time now to declare bankruptcy once again. 🙂

    • So, I’m right, many of Trump supporters were looking at his pocket book.
      Did you not pay attention to the fact that he cheats.
      The first law of a con is to know one’s mark.
      His mark was the many whites bigots and ‘Trump’ want-a-be.
      He has been known to piss all over those he has used and these are people he knew personally.
      What do you think he’s gonna do with you stupid dumb asses, he knows not.
      You chose to listen to what you thought he was saying.
      Boy, are you gonna be screwed. Hope you didn’t put up your home and transportation.
      Trump cheats and he uses folks who are looking at his reported wealth.
      Now he is saying he won’t take a salary and doesn’t want to reside in the White House.
      Meaning, you can’t ask me for anything, because I’m not taking anything and therefor don’t owe you nothing.
      HE CHEATS, open your eyes and believe it.
      All those people who have filed a lawsuit against him can’t be wrong.
      HE CHEATS

    • Something wrong with the men in the Joint Chiefs who are the ones on the front lines of Afghanistan and Iraq. He wants Petraeus because he will get him to kiss up to Putin and stir up the Iranians.

  2. First of all, Petraeus got nailed for leaking classified documents to his girlfriend and using them in his book. It is clear that Commander in Chief Elect DogMeat is doing exactly as he damn well pleases and intends to fly in the face of every rule and regulation of government just to show he can.

    The cost to keep him in his penthouse at Trump Tower is already being billed to taxpayers. Gomez, head of the NYPD said they are having to hire additional cops to secure Trump Tower and residents in that building are having to provide ID just to get in and out. 5th Avenue, the world’s busiest street, is now closed off between 55th and 5th Avenue to pedestrians who do not have IDS to shop there.

    It figures a bunch of hicks would start this kind of insular BS up north. But, the biggest businesses rely on pedestrian traffic…This means anyone trying to get to the Met or see the tree lighting in Rockefeller Plaza will not be able to do that.

    It will kills businesses like Dolce & Gabbana, FAO Schwarz, Gucci, Godiva, Jimmy Choo, Lord & Taylor, Cartier, Crabtree & Evelyn and a host of other upscale businesses that tourist regularly visit. All this for the Emperor Trump on your tax dollars.

    • And yet you probably had no problem with the tens of millions that it has cost the taxpayers for Obama’s annual trips to Hawaii and Martha’s Vineyard.

      • And yet, Obama paid out of pocket you lying sack. Nice try liar. Is that ALL you exist for? To be a Big Daddy and Big Momma bigot who bashes anyone who won’t bend over and kiss your hypocrite LIAR butts?

        You do not live or work in NY City. So do you and me a big fat favor and stop shifting blame for the DogMeat you elected.

        • Eleanore!!!! Obomo paid for his many trips? Ha ha!!!! Like he paid the 85 million it took for him to travel to his birthplace in Kenya? Ha ha!!!!
          Well, you haven’t answered the question, are you stupid or just a liar?

          • Yes…You whiners of Big Rich TEXAS that WHOLE Other Country had Cornballs make Obama pay for his trip to Hawaii. Who paid for Laura and the twin tramps to go to India to visit the Taj Mahal?

            Boy are you stupid. You are not going to force me or any other American to be your next version of the free slaves you needed because your Grandpappy Mutton Chops couldn’t get rich without free labor. Go wave your stars and bars before I shove it up your trailer trash butt.

          • White Cowboy Male Privilege asshat? Think again. Every mass murderer in this country has been like you…white and male. Are you denying McVeigh was connected to terrorists? If you do, you better put on your chaps, your cowboy hat and those spurs and let the CIA know. McVeigh took out the entire Murrah Building with a bomb jackass.

          • Eleanore!!!! Why won’t you answer the question? McVeigh was NOT an “Okie” like you said. Are you stupid or a liar? Second, not every mass murderer in this country is “white and male”. San Bernadino for example. You, in addition to being shrill, wizened, and hate filled, are an ignorant high school graduate. By the way, how do you like the way the Demorat Party espouses what you learned at your Catholic high school? Like abortion for example? You are one of their “useful idiots”. Makes you feel special doesn’t it?

          • When he bombed the Murrah Building, he was living in OKlahoma according to all of the post bombing government records. Where he was BORN is like me saying a hick cowboy like you is born in your dust and electrical storm TX but you are planning to bomb a building in NY City.

            Nice fat. By the way, I am no longer a practicing Catholic. Doesn’t mean I don’t know what they teach or how MAN dominated they are.

            That IS what you balls and dicks are all after isn’t spur butt? Trying to demean women so they can be your playmates like Melania the Nude First Whore?

            Men like you need your heads bashed in. All your phony swaggering, blowhard, strutting doesn’t equate to intelligence or power over women. That is ALL jerkoffs like you are after. Go blow your gas bag where someone actually cares.

          • Eleanore!!!! Now is your chance to show you aren’t a pitiful lying POS. McVeigh was raised in Pendleton, New York. He enlisted in the Army and was a Gulf War veteran. He was somewhat of a transient after leaving the Army and lived in Arizona and Michigan. He NEVER lived in Oklahoma. You say that “all the post bombing records” say he was living in Oklahoma at the time of the bombing. Ok, please cite even one of those reports saying he lived in Oklahoma. Please cite ANY authority that places McVeigh as residing in Oklahoma. When you can’t, you will have proved — once again — that you are nothing more than a miserable, hateful, ignorant, and lying example of what the Democrat party has become. There is your challenge, Eleanore. Please note that I will call you a liar on future posts you make. Because, that is what you are!
            By the way, you might try becoming a Christian. It is something Bill and Hillary hopefully will become.

          • Eleanore!!!! According to ElectionWatch.org, we taxpayers have paid $70.88 million for his trips. Chicken feed for you rich people in New Joisey!

      • Presidents pay for their own vacation rentals and their own food and other expenses. Taxpayers pay to keep them safe from the nuts and freaks, that’s all.

        • It gauls you to no end that we had/have a black president doesn’t it.
          Did you complain when Bush took vacations.
          Obama followed the rules, went to school, got accepted in a top university all on his own.
          He had no father to pay himself in a good college.
          And he earned the grades he got. There is no way he would have been elected to head the Harvard Review just on the whim of administrators and students if he wasn’t very good as what he did and does.
          Yes, even smart black can go to a college or university of their choise.
          Unfortunately you still like to try and paint them as unqualified because of your own stupidity or ineptitude.
          That’s on you buddy.

          • That’s why these men hate Clinton and Obama. They had SINGLE moms. How dare any single mom raise a president? Do you doubt for a single minute that isn’t why these Daddies boys hate these two presidents, smear their names with all manner of lies and then refuse to respect them?

            Funny thing. I have southern relatives who live in GA and FL. The white women who are single moms down there live off federal welfare handouts in greatest proportions. Their sense of self-respect is kept low by the bully males in these states who constantly make sure these women are never smarter or more successful.

          • I think it’s called keeping them barefoot and pregnant.
            And also many women defind themselves by the man they have beside them, even if he is a creep.
            That ‘at least I have a man attitude’.
            I know, becuase once upon a time I was one of those women.
            I changed my attitude very quickly when I finally relialized I was doing all the work myself with minimum help from my ‘mates’.
            I worked, provided for my kids sent to Catholic schools, which were good schools once upon a time, provided them with food and clothing and a roof over their heads.
            Then I looked myself in the mirror and realized what I was actually doing and what it was costing me just for the honor of having a ‘man’
            Now my motto is and have been for a long time, if one must have a man, do so for only one reason and although it hasn’t come to that yet, use a dildo.

          • I was not raised or educated to accept what I was taught is WRONG. I was a single Mom. When men are drunks, gamblers, womanizers or druggies, what woman in her right mind will hand over 50 years of her life to these vice ridden men?

            I have never really needed any man. I was the owner of a dance school business for almost 2 decades beginning at age 21. The only reason I ever really married at all was because I wanted sons. Back then, you had to have a husband to have sons.

            I’ve always paid all my own bills and even paid off the mortgage on our home after I divorced.

          • I hear ya.
            But we are all products of our enviroment, until we ain’t.
            I’m a very independent woman, now.
            Have been for well over a score.
            But there was a time when I fell into the ‘hype’ trap that was fed to girls doing that time.
            In the 70’s I lived it, it the 80’s I examined it.
            In the middle 80’s I dropped it..

          • I’ve always had a small circle of male friends who are like minded. They don’t play games. They know not to. I can spot a gamer at 500 yards.

            I figure now that I am semi retired, I can do as I please. I refuse to obey any man simply because he is a man. I find it a lot of fun watching them try to control the one woman on earth who is a free bird and cannot be controlled.

            When they try their fearmongering games? I call their bluff. At my age, there is very little I have to lose and I am planning to go out with a clear conscience, something I find too too many men lack these days.

          • Again, I hear ya.
            But once upon a time, I wasn’t so wise.
            I wouldn’t revisit that time again in my life for not even all of Trump’s reported billons unless I’d go with my old age wisdom of now.
            Life has been an adventure, that roller coaster ride that I’m terrified to get on.
            Perhaps, before I check out, I try the one at the amusement park.

          • Eleanore, not ALL men are drunks, gamblers, womanizers, or druggies. My husband of 26 years is a wonderful man….he is 15 years younger than I am, but he loves me despite the aches and pains that I’m having as I grow older each year. He may not do much in the way of housework, but he DOES cook (and he’s a trained chef) and still works a full-time job and brings home the bacon, so to speak. So, please don’t think that ALL men are creeps…..some of them, in fact probably a lot of them, are great guys and treat their wives and children with great respect. I’m one of those that got one of the “good ones.” But, I did kiss a lot of frogs before I found my prince! I was just smart enough not to marry the frogs and held out for the prince!

          • Based on your posts, you were probably single because no man would put up with your hateful self. Probably pitifully ugly too, I’d be willing to bet.

          • Please. Read my avatar. Pay attention to my posts. I am a liberal Democrat who has never voted for a Republican in my life. Do you not understand that my post is saying that Presidents, not taxpayers, pay for their own vacation rental homes and everything else but for the cost of protection by the Secret Service? Why are you speaking to me with such ugliness? Why are you accusing me of being a racist?

            You owe me an apology.

          • You’re right, yabbed.
            I was directing my vent at TMZ1928.
            I got so riled up at his/her post that I hit the wrong ‘reply’
            Again, please accept my apology.

          • Marriea….you and Eleanore owe Yabbed an apology. He has NEVER said anything against the president! He was mainly trying to make a point to one of the on-line trolls that seemed to think that the taxpayers pay for the president’s vacations, which they don’t. Please read his post and re-read it again because you’re wrong in chastising Yabbed for his comments!

          • Please pay attention. Go back and read the thread. I am a liberal Democrat who has never voted for a Republican in my life. My point in the post in reply to TMZ is that all Presidents, including President Obama, pays for his own vacations, including house rental and all expenses. All the taxpayer pays for is his and his family’s security.

    • Don’t forget Tiffany’s, that fabled jeweler that the barbarian Trump named one of his children with one of his wives after. 🙂

      • Right now, those who rent in Trump Tower are “tolerating” their being his hostages. But let’s be honest, these are big name New Yorkers and Manhattanites who are not like the southern and midwestern rabble rousers with their big mouths always agape. These people fight with their money and most of them have huge political connections in Albany.

      • Tiffany is the Trump daughter whose mother was forced to get a paternity test to prove HE was the father. All to avoid paying her mother alimony.

    • Doing as he pleases? You mean like Obama with all his EO’s? Trump will do as he and his supports wanted in the first place, all legally.

      The cost for granny continuing to be paid 160K a year for the rest of her life is okay with you though huh? Gramma taking care of her grandkids should be a labor of love but not with this old hag. But that’s okay with you retards…

      • Yes…doing as he damn well please. What the hell planet do you live on Teenage King? How did you miss what McConnell said and carried out back in 2001? “I will make sure Obama is a one term president. We will make sure none of his policies become law.”

        Proud of that you scumbag traitor?

        Granny worked longer than you middle aged mongrels. What you want is to take what Granny worked 4 or 5 decades so you can sit on your FAT ass all day and text your life away. Then retire at age 50. Sorry..I know that anyone who paid for 4 or more decades into SS and Medicare through weekly payroll deductions paid over $250,000 on average.

        Now Grandma takes care of YOUR kids because you asshat middle aged snot noses are too lazy to do that yourselves and the money you save having Granny babysit leaves you plenty to go to your tanning salons, your Football weekends and buy homes you can’t afford.

        One question remains jerkoff…when Granny dies you will be stuck with teens who are already rebelling and taking it to the streets like Granny.

        But you aren’t ever going to be old are you jackass? By the time Trump is done, your 401K and all those Wall St. Mutual funds will have disappeared. Good. I hope so. Your mouth is bigger than a cow’s butt and you have yet to learn to shut it.

        • Back in 2001 Obamas kids were sh^tting yellow! I’m sure your old a$$ meant 2011. By that time EVERYONE that hadn’t been brainwashed by the media that the first black president was a Godsend realized the policies he wanted to enact were totally against American principles. His idea of change was communism for all and McConnell, who I’m no fan of, was calling him out.

          Granny worked hard huh before her perch at the WH? I’m all chocked up Ellie. Let what her contributions in the private sector support her in her waning years just like the rest of us do or do you view her as a Nubian Queen much like you view yourself? Screw that old hag!!!!

          I’m about as old as you are Ellie (but I’m sure MUCH more well preserved because of my white privilege) and expect nothing more than any other American who has been in the highest tax bracket that exists for many decades.

        • You have to understand that these trolls, like Samaras, have been thoroughly brainwashed by watching too much of FAUX News and reading too many RW websites. They believe everything they’re told, just like dogs salivating for a bone…..typical. It’s going to be a long, hard fall when they realize that the idiot that they voted for is crooked as the day is long and that all those “wonderful” promises he made are never going to come to fruition….at least not to the degree they were led to believe by the best con man in the nation!

      • Executive Orders have been used by ALL Presidents and are entirely legal. President Obama has issued less than George W and Saint Ronald the Reagan ( the counts are 256 for Obama, 291 for W and 381 for Reagan.) The 160,000 pension for Marian Robinson was a fake news story. The Boston Tribune is a fake news web site. So who is the retard, hmmm? I would personally not use that term to apply to anyone – even you Jim. You know what PC stands for? polite and considerate, very telling that is used as a slur by you.
        Do you know anything about the subjects you post on? Your ignorance and gullibility are astounding and explain your support of the Donald, grifter in Chief elect.

    • I can’t wait for these businesses, as well as the tenants of Trump Plaza, to file legal charges against him for blocking their businesses and blocking their free entrance into their own homes! That should be interesting….but I’d rather see his ugly face and that of his stripper wife there than in our beautiful White House!

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  4. Trump never cared whether or not any of Hillary’s emails exposed confidential information. If he did he wouldn’t consider Patraeus who confessed to lying and intentionally exposing confidential information which included use of emails. Trump just needed a big lie with which to brand Hillary and feed it to his rabid followers and other low information voters. Trump isn’t concerned about the leak of confidential information. Trump is only concerned about the adulation his sycophants show him and enriching himself,his family, and his friends.

    • Hillary’s emails not only exposed confidential information, but they also exposed the collaboration between the various Clinton family foundations and the Clinton State Department on pay-to-play. Two to three billion flowed through the foundations, much of it from foreign governments, and the Clintons skimmed off hundreds of millions for themselves. It will be the job of the Trump Justice Department to get to the bottom of this and proceed with criminal action. The voters delivered their verdict on November 8 – GUILTY!!!

          • TMZ is a middle aged, balding, fat gut creep who can’t earn a real living. So “it” does what Trump does…skims around the edges of the fringe society to make a buck.

          • Can’t earn a living or don’t want to. Judy Judy has exposed more of those bigots on her show then one realized.
            The ones who would be talking avout what others are getting from the government, while getting it themselves.
            As for Trump, it’s no secret that he uses folks and he cheats the rest.
            Oh, well, it’s a done deal now.
            I have no choice except to prepare myself for Trump like I did with Bush.
            This too will pass, hope I survive the ride.
            But the ones who will hurt the most are the ones who brought into the scam.

          • And that would be most of his followers…..the ones that he conned with all his lies of all the wonderful things he was going to do…..can’t wait to see their faces or hear their anger when they find out he can’t do ANYTHING he promised them….at least not to the extent that they were led to believe. He’s already backed down on immigration, the “wall,” prosecuting Hillary, climate control, etc. How much more is he going to back down on before they get the idea that they’ve been conned by the best con man in the nation!

      • Hey stupid…Did you forget that it was Petraeus who used classified information in his book? You have no proof and that just eats your heart out and busts your balls doesn’t it? The proof is already out there that Trump used the Russian hackers and Wikileaks to gain Hillary’s supporter information so they could delete votes in Republican states. Come liar…deny that one. http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/13/politics/russia-us-election/….and this is especially for a traitor like you: http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-hillary-clinton-united-states-europe-516895

          • Nice try smearass…No. I have ISBN numbers on both of those books. Check them out. It was with a now defunct publisher named, PublishAmerica. I was one of the first authors whose books they published. I was paid a royalty.

            What do YOU have? You can’t even get any book published. Didn’t Mommy ever tell her lil sweetums not to mix it up with women far above your low life class?

          • You say that you have two books published and that one was with a now defunct publisher named PublishAmerica. Actually, neither of the publishers you cite are prominent.

            Aside from your unrestricted use of foul language, which you extend to my mother, you don’t seem to be very noticeable.

          • You know why you are so hateful? Because you cannot stand anyone who dares take you down and is better than you low life dogs can ever be.

            Yes. I know PublishAmerica was not prominent…DUH. As a moron you are, you would know that almost all 1st time novelists, including the famous Stephen King either self published their first books or used NEW publishers.

            By the way, Stephen King, Robert Walker and several other prominent writers are on my FB page. Your butt burning up yet over that? On FB, I have over 235 friends, many in the literary industry. I’m also followed on LinkedIn and ooooooooooh how that burns you up.

            As for my short story blog, check it out if you dare pig slop. I have quite a following there too. Eat your heart out loser.

            As for my foul mouth, you are a dipshit, a mongrel dog, a jerk off…See? I am a “wordsmith” who knows how to talk trash on your trash class level. Why ever would I waste my wordsmith talents on a low life like you?

            So what now do you think you proved? You bothered to check and found out that ISBN numbers mean my books, as you tried to lie and smear my accomplishment, is in fact NOT self published. Got that asshat? NOT SELF PUBLISHED. ooooooh and how a low down dirty mongrel like you hates that. You must be a real joy in your social circle …like Bubonic Plague.

            Get a job, get a life and stop being a pathetic jealous loser. I can’t write. I’m PAID to do that by over 5300 clients. Now go tell Mommy to change your Pampers.

            You are liar. LIAR LIAR LIAR LIAR bwhahahahahahaha! Gotcha!

          • Oh by the way, smearass…If the only weapon you have in your arsenal is trying to smear others, how pathetic do you plan to get? You don’t get ANY ISBN number on books that are self published…Gotcha!

      • Try doing honest research and stop using the debunked “Clinton Cash”, Fox News, Breitbart and other fake news sites, tweets, and facebook posts as your sources of information. You are regurgitating the same tired lies. The voters did speak on November 8 and by more than a million votes rejected your Glorious Leader. If uninhabited pieces of land weren’t given a greater voice than people, your Glorious Leader would be hiding in Trump Tower tweeting lies. Nevermind, he’s doing that anyway. Heil Trump!

        • Actually, I believe Hillary is now up 2M of the popular votes over Trump. So, actually, he DIDN’T win the election fairly! Besides that, until the Electoral College actually votes in January, he really is only the president elect, and that could change quickly if they decide to vote uniformly for Hillary! Wouldn’t that be hilarious…..all his posturing, etc. will be for naught!!!

          • The Electoral College meets December 19th. However, since there will be more electors from states that voted for Trump than Hillary, I hold out very little hope it will do as it was intended to do when adopted as part of the Constitution. Instead of keeping a demagogue from becoming president as intended, it will make a demagogue who was thoroughly rejected by a majority of the voters the president. I can imagine Alexander Hamilton spinning in his grave screaming “How could I have been so wrong?”.

          • It’s amazing that the Electoral College deal turned out to be a real problem! And, yes, Alexander Hamilton will be spinning around! We can only keep our fingers crossed that the recounts in the 3 big states will show that Hillary won the vote in those states. It would be interesting to see what happens if that occurs….I doubt if Trump will go quietly into the night. He’s already screaming that the recounts are a “scam” and that he won the popular vote due to illegal voters……interesting. The funny part is that if the shoe were on the other foot, he’d be asking for recounts himself! But, when someone else does it, he says it’s a scam!

          • Trump can’t stand to lose and will say or do anything to win or if he loses say anything to claim that he actually won. What a terrible example he is setting for children and young people!

  5. Since Obama and Lynch put the fix in on the Hillary indictment for a long list of federal crimes, anything Patraeus did pales by comparison. His mistress was also military and had a top secret clearance herself. So compare that to at least five foreign governments getting access to Hillary’s emails. Hopefully, the details of the Obama/Lynch action and the Bill Clinton “accidental” meeting with Loretta Lynch on an Arizona tarmac will be revealed soon, a meeting none of us would even know about were it not for an airport worker who saw what was going on and called a buddy who worked at the local TV station.

      • I agree…these righties all think we actually care about them. They actually think we have no options on the table. CA, OR and WA already are talking about seceding. Notice how the blowhards out there are silent about TX seceding?

        TMZ is liar and will keep lying because he needs professional mental help. The insane fear nothing as much as knowing they’ve lost their sanity.

          • Maybe not, but it sure will be fun to watch!!! As a Californian, I’m signing every petition possible that we secede, and we’re taking Oregon and Washington with us!!!

    • TMZ, you are obviously one of those “uneducated” that Trump professes to love, right? Trump must REALLY love you. There’s not a word of truth in that post!

      • Remember, Trump said “I love losers because they make me feel good about myself.” Reading posts like TMZ1928’s make clear who Trump was talking about.

          • Between the uneducated and the losers Trump spreads his love throughout the nation. You are right as those categories of people Trump says he loves are a lot larger than I realized prior to November 8th.

  6. Trump is truly deplorable. Putting a man who has already pled guilty to betraying America’s classified secrets to a girlfriend so she could write a book is just one more example of how appalling the vulgarian know nothing Donald Trump is. He’s going to end up impeached for treason.

    • Petraeus won’t be able to get a clearance…..not since he pled guilty to treason. He’ll need a Top Secret clearance, and he’s not going to be able to even get a Secret clearance with his background!! Nothing to worry about here!

      • He has no link…just a middle aged, lazy boy big mouth. If he ever had to work like his grandfather, his tender little patties would be blistered in seconds. Men like Samaras are worthless mongrels sired by parents who thought giving them an education would hide how mentally ill their son was.

        • Yeah, I knew that, I was just trying to point out that these trolls conflate anything to do with the Clintons with their “feel bad gut feelings” compared to the real law breaking and hypocrisy that is rife through their own part and El Presidente Electo

          • And you know they are paid by Karl Rove and Grover Norquist …to men who have resented and hated the fact that Bill Clinton not only became a Rhodes Scholar but a Governor and President. Ever since these two vicious men have tried to smear the Clintons any way they could.

      • If she and her hubby were subject to the same laws as the rest of us the indictment would have happened years ago. Just like on the day after the election I’m gonna love to be here the day it comes out what a true criminal enterprise they’ve been in charge of for years. Call him what you will but Trump will be RELENTLESS when it comes to justice for those two sloths.

        • what are you high? Subject to the same laws? you mean like 30 years of partisan investigations leading to NOTHING? Or are all of those Republican congressmen and Senators on the take? Why don’t you take a closer look at your man Trump and see if he is subject to the same rules and laws as the rest of us?

        • Alright, asshole…what indictment? Exactly what should they have been indicted for? Name the charge. Please be very precise so there can be no misunderstanding. And no, you can’t charge them with anything just because you don’t like them or are simply jealous of their success.

        • How about this for being relentless in the pursuit of justice: Trump once again displays his business acumen in settling for $25,000,000 lawsuits over the Trump University fraud that paid him $40,000,000.

          What a sleazy piece of garbage.

    • Fortitude? He had NO choice. Unlike you Middle Aged liars who think you own the world and live off your parents in their basements, Petraeus would have faced a firing squad.

    • Jim, you idiot! He pled guilty because he was GUILTY, he knew he was guilty and he knew there was no choice but to plead guilty. Hillary, on the other hand , has not pleaded guilty because (a) she has not been formally charged with anything and (b) she is not guilty of anything. Her “crimes” exist only in the fevered imaginations of fools such as yourself. And what the hell is a “cankle queen” anyway?

    • jim s…voluntarily giving classified information to your “mistress”, who is writing a book about your life and admitting to it is not “fortitude”..the nastiness and hatred shown by republicans toward any and all things Clinton,with bits and pieces of nothing on the other hand is totally different..by the way jim, how good looking are your legs and ankles (referencing you nasty “cankle queen” remark)…

  7. Men like the middle aged Jim Samaras think people older than him are not onto his self-aggrandizing games. He isn’t smarter, more successful or for that matter even gainly employed. But he hates the older generation who already paid their life dues while this little freeloader got his education from those older than him who paid taxes.

    Now, this little bitchy boy wants to claim that these older people are the ones eating his “porridge?” Poor little boy..can’t find a real job so he bashes his parents and grandparents who worked their fingers to the bones so he could bitch his life away and take the SS and Medicare they paid for…why? So Jimmy Sam Sam can work a grand total of 5 years and retire at age 45. Dream on teenage king.

    Kids in high school are already taking it to the streets…these are the Kids Samaras dumped on his parents to raise because he was too lazy to do it himself. Now, his kids pay interest on college loans higher than Jimmy Boo HOO HOO pays on his credit cards.

    • Dopey Eleanor has emerged from the woodwork again.

      By the way, it’s “gainfully employed,” not “gainly employed.” “Gainly” isn’t a word.

      • Cpants…The only dope here is you. You want to help me pay off those 6 corporate bankruptcies of Trump’s we NJ taxpayers are now paying? Don’t tell a published author and SEO copywriter of over 5300 articles online how to write. Go thump that Bible hick boy.

        • Dear Nutcase:

          Are you still trying to push that “published author” line? If you hadn’t paid for them, you wouldn’t have published any books. Give us your books’ titles and any publishers other then vanity publishers.

          So you’ve edited 5,300 articles. Stuff written by other people. Big deal. What were you, a copy editor?

          • Here are the ISBN #…Keep trying to smear you jerkoff. Barrow House ISBN #978-104512-3412 …The House at the End of Langdon Road ISBN #978-1-4626-6096.

            No jerkoff…I ghost write the article for 3 content businesses.

            You slander me one more time and you will make me a very wealthy woman.

            Now..you have the ISBN you jealous little asshat. I dare you to go and check them.

            You can also check out the number of readers on my short Story blog if you have the balls to do it…It’s on Blogspot on November’s Child.

            People like you never learn to stop your BS bullying until I get my niece who works for the FBI and my son’s friend who knows how to crack your origin. Do you want to shut up now moron?

  8. Yes, Gen. Petraeus made serious mistakes and paid the price for them.
    He nonetheless is a splendid patriot and did much more including risking his life on numerous occasions, than Joe Conason who to me epitomizes what I despise about knee-jerk leftist super liberals…and I write this as a centrist-liberal and staunch Democrat. If you read either Gen. Petraeus’s own book or others about him you will see that on balance he has been a great soldier for our country and “The Surge” that he advocated and was put into effect in Afghanistan is what prevented a complete and imminent Taliban victory.
    I regret a patriot like Gen. Petraeus will join, if he does, this incoming administration. He is far too good for Donald Trump. He spent his whole career defending America.
    He is also far too good for a knee-jerk jerk like Joe Conason.

  9. Based on conjecture and conspiracy about Hillary’s emails, the denizens of that mental no-man’s land called “The Red Zone” were thirsting and howling for blood, chanting “LOCK HER UP”, led by the maestro himself, Donald.
    And now, Trump considers hiring an Establishment figure who knowingly leaked information without authority. But “The Red Zone” is silent in the face of this hypocrisy, and will remain so.

  10. Apparently, Trump feels safe in nominating people for his cabinet that are just as crooked as he is! Hopefully, some of his nominations won’t pass muster. I can’t see how Petraeus would EVER be able to get a security clearance, especially considering that he leaked confidential materials to his mistress! That should be the ONE thing that would keep him from getting the clearance that is required for the position!!

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