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Last Wednesday, in a thoughtful and persuasive speech on the merits of the Iranian nuclear agreement, President Barack Obama chastised Dick Cheney and his ilk. He didn’t mention the former vice president by name, but few in the audience would have missed the reference.

Noting that many critics of the Iranian deal also supported the invasion of Iraq, President Obama said they “seem to have no compunction with being repeatedly wrong.” Tellingly, the former vice president, who still insists that deposing Saddam Hussein was a good idea, has been among the most vociferous critics of diplomacy with Iran. “(The agreement) will in fact, I think, put us closer to the actual use of nuclear weapons than we’ve been at any time since Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II,” Cheney recently told Fox News.

He’s not the only one. Those curiously unselfconscious denunciations of the Iranian agreement continued in last Thursday’s GOP presidential primary debates. Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee said the deal would make the world “an incredibly dangerous place.” (That was at least less hysterical than his assertion a few days earlier that Obama was “marching Israel to the door of the oven.”)

Wisconsin governor Scott Walker pledged to rip up the deal on “Day One” of his hoped-for administration. In the earlier debate for second-tier candidates, former business executive Carly Fiorina said she would telephone “my good friend, Bibi Netanyahu, to reassure him we will stand with the State of Israel.”

Given our history with Iran, it’s no surprise that this deal has attracted many skeptics — including some from the president’s own party. New York Sen. Chuck Schumer, prominent among Senate Democrats, has announced his opposition.

But it is the Republican Party that remains a refuge of historical revisionism, full of prominent politicians who refuse to admit that the Iraq war left the Middle East worse off. Indeed, the toppling of Saddam Hussein significantly bolstered Iran, giving it more power in the region.

After all, Saddam was an enemy of Iran’s ayatollahs, a counterweight that kept them in check. That’s why the United States was a tacit ally of his for many years, supporting Baghdad in its eight-year war against Tehran. (Remember that 1983 photo of Donald Rumsfeld, then President Reagan’s special envoy to the Middle East, shaking Saddam’s hand?)

Even if the GOP wants to pretend that its military adventurism hasn’t had a downside, many voters remember anyway. A college student had the gumption to confront Jeb Bush at a campaign stop last May as he blamed President Obama for the rise of the self-proclaimed Islamic State. “Your brother created ISIS” when he disbanded the Iraqi Army, said 19-year-old Ivy Ziedrich.

So it is simply mindboggling to watch the politicians who’ve done the most to empower Iran denounce Obama’s diplomatic efforts to limit its nuclear power. They were wrong when they rattled their sabers to gin up public support for the invasion of Iraq, a strategic misfire with consequences that will ripple for decades. And they’re just as wrong now. Why would anyone listen to them?

Prominent Republicans are quite aware that the American public is weary of war, wary of any armchair hawks who would insist that U.S. military strength would carry the day in any conflict. Even core Republican voters are reluctant to use force; only 21 percent of GOP voters — and 14 percent of voters across the board — support military action against Iran rather than a diplomatic solution, according to an April Washington Post poll. So Republican leaders insist that they’re not pushing for military strikes against Iran.

“That’s never been the alternative,” Sen. Majority Leader Mitch McConnell told the Post. “It’s either this deal or a better deal, or more sanctions.”

But that’s a far more naive proposition than depending on the inspections regime to limit Iran’s nuclear program. President Obama persuaded China and Russia to join sanctions against Iran, but they’re ready to ink this deal. They won’t be pressed into tightening the financial noose around Tehran. And without their cooperation, sanctions won’t work.

Because America’s military might has limits, diplomacy ought to always be the first and second options. History makes that clear; the war in Iraq was merely a reminder.

Photo: A staff member removes the Iranian flag from the stage after a group picture with foreign ministers and representatives of United States, Iran, China, Russia, Britain, Germany, France and the European Union during the Iran nuclear talks at the Vienna International Center in Vienna, Austria, July 14, 2015. REUTERS/Carlos Barria

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Cynthia Tucker Haynes

Cynthia Tucker Haynes, a veteran newspaper journalist and Pulitzer Prize winner, is a Visiting Professor of Journalism and Charlayne Hunter-Gault Distinguished Writer-in-Residence at the University of Georgia. She is also a highly-regarded commentator on TV and radio news shows.

Haynes was editorial page editor of The Atlanta Journal-Constitution newspaper for 17 years, where she led the development of opinion policy. More recently, she was that newspaper’s Washington-based political columnist. She maintains a syndicated column through Universal Press Syndicate, which is published in dozens of newspapers around the country. Besides winning the Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 2007, Haynes has also received numerous other awards, including Journalist of the Year from the National Association of Black Journalists.

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  1. Dominick Vila August 8, 2015

    The radicalization of Iran can be traced all the way back to our involvement of Mossadegh from power. Bush’s decision to invade Iraq, and remove Saddam Hussein from power, in spite of the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, and that Saddam enjoyed the full support of the USA during the Iran-Iraq war, when that country and its regime served as an effective impediment to, alleged, Iranian ideological and physical expansionism, served as a catalyst for the destabilization of the Persian Gulf, and contributed to some of the problems we are still seeing in the Middle East. Moreover, the replacement of Sunni Baathists from power, and their replacement with Shias aligned spiritually to Iran, paved the way for the emergence of ISIS, and created the greatest threat to a stable Persian Gulf and Middle East.
    The rationale for our decision to remove the Baathists and replace them with Shias is beyond logic, and has proven to be one of the worst strategic mistakes in American foreign policy.
    Opposing a nuclear weapons agreement with Iran that has as its centerpiece the elimination of weapons grade plutonium, and that allows international inspection to verify compliance, has more to do with political imperatives and economic considerations, than logic. Let’s not forget that before this agreement was reached the discussions were focused on when and who should launch a devastating attack against Iranian nuclear facilities, and considering the implications of such action. The sad truth is that opposition to this agreement has more to do with the 2016 election in the USA, preserving a status quo that benefits our arms industry and protects high DoD budgets, precluding oil prices from dropping further, and protecting foreign and military aid to Israel, than concern over alleged weaknesses.

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  2. SilentSword August 8, 2015

    “(The agreement) will in fact, I think, put us closer to the actual use of nuclear weapons than we’ve been at any time since Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II,”

    Someone was asleep for about 40 years, then. Let’s also add in October, 1962, or 11/09/1975….

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  3. charleo1 August 8, 2015

    The old meme that you can’t teach old dogs new tricks, is sadly even more true when it comes to old gray haired men sending other’s Sons’s and Daughters to war. And doing so as a first resort, and not the last, is too often simply a matter of these old men’s shortcomings. Of not possessing within themselves the inclination, patience, and mental wherewithal to do otherwise. Or the vision, courage, or imagination, to choose peace over war. And, as we witnessed with Bush’s blunder in Iraq. The consequences of a small cabal of ideologues taking control of the information, and having command of the largest most powerful military in the World, and determined to use it for their own ulterior reasons. Can be devastating in the way that power tends to corrupt, and total, unquestioned power, often corrupts absolutely.
    Today, after nearly 15 years of constant war, America finds herself once again on the precipice of yet another war. Once again considering the prospect of invading yet another Country on the premise that pre emptive action is necessary to totally stop the spread of a weapons technology that over the next relatively short span of years, is in all likelihood, inevitable.
    Once again the provocateurs, the war hawks, the chicken hawks, if hypocrisy still means anything, are minimizing the costs, downplaying the losses, while insisting we must burn the village, in order to save the village, and preserve the peace. Implying the suggested action would be effective, void of complication, of short duration, with minimal costs, and loss of life. Once again failing to reveal other motives, and political considerations involving their own positions, and careers in government, and business. Suggesting that if only these conditions were met. That if other cooperations were forthcoming. If other issues, goals, and agendas were satisfied. That if only this, “better deal,” that awaits somewhere at the end of the proverbial rainbow, could be obtained. Never mind that time is quickly running out. That war could be avoided after all. What folly!

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  4. itsfun August 8, 2015

    Same ole crap from Obama; after all of his time in office, he is still blaming others for his failures. He gave Iran nuclear weapons and everything else they wanted and comes up with either give them what they want or go to war. Why not keep the sanctions and even increase them? There were options, but he doesn’t care. He is just proving he cannot solve problems, just give away anything enemies want.

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    1. Polana August 8, 2015

      Wrong President Buddy. Your and your croonies lunatics Grumpy old men and soso actor Reagan gave weapons to Iran and backed Iraq then with the war w/Iran. Iran never invaded any country for any reason and never planned to attack US. Get your facts straight. Obama is trying to do the right thing but people of your ilk and hate/ignorance are in the way.
      Volunteer your self and your children to be the first joining the war against Iran.
      Barefooted army in Afghanistan is kicking our butts for the last 15 yrs and we don’t need anymore body bags, we don’t need anymore wars.
      Life is short and a gift for all.
      It’s seems you never run our of saliva (or over use of your keyboard) to bash anything Obama does/says.
      Imagine how would our country be today if the worthless Congress in the history of US and sane GOP cooperate, we would be the greatest country in the world. Unfortunately – we have war mongers, haters, narcissist,me, me personality Congressman’s/Senators. They don’t give a hoot about U or the country.
      “People were created to be loved, Things were created to be used. The reason why the world is in chaos is because things are being loved and people are being used.”
      Go Trump. Tell them like it’s, at least he pays for his campain and is not for sale. It’s gotcha w/Rand Paul the idiot.

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      1. idamag August 24, 2015

        If itsfun really believed his own ideology, he could join the Israeli mercenaries. I hear they pay very well.

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    2. Grannysmovin August 8, 2015

      You are aware there were other countries at the table and one of them was Iran. If you or anyone believed that there would be complete capitulation by Iran you do not live in reality.

      In 1992: Netanyahu predicted that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon. Well that would mean based on Netanyahu that Iran has been an imminent threat to Israel and the U.S. since 2007; so why did Israel or the U.S. not bomb Iran’s nuclear sites in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010? Don’t you think Iran has been threatened by Israel’s nuclear weapons?

      What options do you have that would be agreed to by all Countries involved, keeping in mind Russia and China are more inline with Iran than Israel?

      “Some of Israel former Israeli security figures have come forward to say that things could be much worse. “No agreement is ironclad, but the inspections provisions provide a high degree of confidence that Iran will not be able to renew the nuclear program without its being detected,” Chuck Freilich, a former deputy National Security Adviser in Israel, wrote in a New York Times op-ed published on Sunday and entitled A Good Deal for Israel. “A regime that has staked so much on this agreement will be reluctant to incur the costs.”
      Major-General (res.) Israel Ziv is the former head of the Israeli Army’s Operations Directorate branch and he took a realist’s approach to the deal. “There is no one in Israel who thinks the nuclear agreement is a good agreement, but the discussion should not focus on that,” he wrote in an op-ed for the Israeli news site Ynetnews.com. “Because this agreement is the best among all other alternatives, and any military strike – as successful as it may be – would not have delayed even 20% of what the agreement will delay, not to mention the risk of another flare-up with Hezbollah, which an operation against Iran would have generated. The agreement is an established fact, and it’s not particularly bad as far as Israel is concerned.”
      Shlomo Brom a Visiting Fellow at the Center for American Progress and former Brigadier General in the Israeli Army told ThinkProgress
      last week that while there were flaws in the deal, it was “solved in a good
      way.”
      Ami Ayalon, former head of Israel’s internal security outfit called Shin Bet and
      former chief of the Israeli Navy, told The Daily Beast that the issue “is not black and white.” “[W]hen it comes to Iran’s nuclear capability, this [deal] is the best option,” Ayalon said. He also named a number of other former
      ministers, security officers in Shin Bet, and Mossad (Israel’s equivalent to
      the CIA) who agreed with this view. http://thinkprogress.org/world/2015/07/23/3683546/former-israeli-security-heads-support-iran-deal/

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    3. Independent1 August 8, 2015

      Why don’t you explain to us the rationale that Reagan used in allowing his administration top fully support Saddam’s used of chemical weapons during the Iran/Iraq war – something that has always been against any international law??

      Is it any wonder that Bush and Cheney thought torture was an acceptable practice in interrogating Terrorist when Reagan had fully supported the heinous actions of Saddam using chemical weapons to kill thousands of Iranian soldiers and even thousands of his own people??

      When are Republicans such as yourself going to stop acting like barbarians?? Sometime soon I hope!!! Your actions are clearly giving America a bad name in the world when Republicans actg like they don’t even belong to the human race.

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      1. idamag August 24, 2015

        Barbarians is a good word. I always wonder where the great civilizations would be, today, if they had not been destroyed by barbarians. The t-party are the present barbarians that might destroy our civilization and democracy.

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    4. charleo1 August 8, 2015

      Aside from the partisan sniping, you ask a good question. Why not just scrap this deal, keep the sanctions in place, even increase them, and demand a better one? One of the leaders we’ll need to hear from on that would be China. And the other one, not likely at all to go along at all, is Russia. And without those two’s cooperation, the sanctions won’t work. Well then, what about the others? PM Cameron of G. Britain urges the U.S. Congress to accept the deal. So have you heard if he’s willing to go along with keeping sanctions, and after 12 long years, because that’s how long his, and the other Nations have been at this. tearing up this deal, and signing on for another 12? Merkel of Germany, says her Country is satisfied with the deal. So have those in Congress ask if a fuel hungry Germany will play along with keeping the embargo in place? Japan is another signatory, and huge competitor with China, who’s economy needs not only the Iranian oil, but the trade from an Iranian population that at this point needs everything. Double that with regards to China. You said you knew there were options, but Obama doesn’t care. And you would know what those options are Perhaps the UN Security Council where George W. Bush attempted to apply sanctions for 7 years, without success? No, that body just unanimously approved the agreement last week. Any other options? Any at all?

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    5. greenlantern1 August 9, 2015

      Herbert Hoover was Neville Chamberlain’s counterpart.
      FDR was Sir Winston Churchill’s counterpart.
      PERFECTLY CLEAR?

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      1. itsfun August 9, 2015

        and Hillary is Obamas counterpart.

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        1. tomtype August 10, 2015

          Hillary is the head of another state while Obama heads the US?

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          1. idamag August 24, 2015

            itsfun is not a learned person.

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        2. greenlantern1 August 10, 2015

          YEP!!
          Which is why this male caucasian is going to vote for her again!!

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      2. tomtype August 10, 2015

        Actually Herbert Hoover was a great hero when elected. His big mistake was trying to cut the government as fast as the revenues fell, at a time when only massive government spending had any chance of saving the country. We finally see how massive government spending returned the land to prosperity in the spending for WW2. Hoover used the best of conservative thought by cutting expenses, by forgoing expensive, big government schemes and generally reducing the size of government. And really lost when he insisted that we should not do anything.

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    6. Sand_Cat August 9, 2015

      Same old crap from you, still blaming others for your failures and stupidity.

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      1. jamesowens August 10, 2015

        no it fun too stupid and it shows he cant blame no one but his parent for swallowing the best part of him

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  5. greenlantern1 August 8, 2015

    Didn’t President Reagan order Oliver North to sell arms to Ayatollah Khomeini?
    Remember IRAN-CONTRA?
    Was that a NEATO idea?
    Ask Cheney!!

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    1. Dominick Vila August 8, 2015

      Actually, Lt. Col. North took full responsibility for the Iran-Contra scandal, at a time when obscure Marine officers were actually running our foreign policy, and The Gipper was enjoying the benefits of telling Mr. Gorbachev to tear down a hideous wall….or ordering the most embarrassing cut and run in U.S. history after 273 U.S. Marines were slaughtered at the Beirut airport. That is the world Republicans are determined to take us back to. Oh, and don’t forget the nuclear weapons agreements reached with the Soviet Union, at a time when the latter had thousands of nuclear warheads, and the delivery system to drop them on us. Yes, the good ole days…

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      1. greenlantern1 August 9, 2015

        Allow me to reply on a thumbs-up.
        Do you really believe that Oliver North told the truth?
        He concocted, the whole scheme, on his own?

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        1. Dominick Vila August 9, 2015

          My comment about Oliver North was meant to be sarcastic. He took a silver bullet for The gipper.

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        2. tomtype August 10, 2015

          But fortunately the excellent leadership in the WH prevented any parts of the plot being implements, and in fact stopped it before it had gone any further than mere speculation over a glass during a drinking bout. [ouch! My tongue is so far in my cheek.]

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    2. itsfun August 8, 2015

      Rehashing what happened in the 1980’s is not going to fix todays problems. We have no leadership in the White House,

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      1. Dominick Vila August 8, 2015

        I disagree. We have true leadership and statesmanship in the White House for the first time in many decades. Threats, insults, lies, and fear mongering to justify adventurism, and support for policies designed to perpetuate regional instability, are the exact opposite to leadership.

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        1. itsfun August 9, 2015

          Its okay to disagree. You just described Obama.

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          1. Sand_Cat August 9, 2015

            Only in your twisted la-la land of delusion and projection.

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          2. jmprint August 10, 2015

            Yes, Dominick’s statement: “We have true leadership and statesmanship in the White House for the first time in many decades.” describes President Obama to the T.

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        2. idamag August 24, 2015

          Intelligent, well read people will recognize that.

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      2. JPHALL August 8, 2015

        Remember, those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. Besides, what is your proposal since the other’s supporting the sanctions have already sent their Finance Ministers to Iran to begin negotiations for business deals.

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      3. greenlantern1 August 9, 2015

        Donald Trump called Hillary our worst Secretary of State.
        Remember Henry Kissinger?
        Leadership?
        Pappy Boyington EARNED his Congressional Medal of Honor, by downing 26 aircraft, before he was captured!
        General Wainwright EARNED his Congressional Medal of Honor, by his defense of Corregidor, before he was captured!
        Rep. Tammy Duckworth was not captured.
        Nevertheless she lost both legs, in the line of duty, while in ACTUAL combat!
        I doubt that she would any of Trump’s “beauty” contests.
        SO??

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        1. itsfun August 9, 2015

          So what??

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      4. Sand_Cat August 9, 2015

        So why are you clowns trying to rehash the stuff that got us here, with your boy W leading the way?

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      5. tomtype August 10, 2015

        And that was great leadership? Which might be part of the point you missed.

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        1. itsfun August 10, 2015

          My point is to move forward not backwards. People from both parties are mad about what is going on in Washington. They are sick of career politicians that make promises to get elected and then just bow to the party leaders. It has gotten so it doesn’t matter who we vote for, as the party leaders will order our elected representatives and senators how to vote and what to support, not the voters. The biggest thing Trump brings is he can’t be bought. He buys. He may be the only one the lobbyists may not be able to buy. The worst thing he brings is he is a my way or the highway type. We don’t need anymore of that. A President need to work with congress, not around it. I don’t know who the best candidate on either side is. I do hope the Democrats come up with more alternatives though. There has to be more that 2 Democrats that are Presidential material.

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          1. tomtype August 10, 2015

            At least this time there are two or three qualified, unlike in 2012, when there was only one qualified Democrat. The point being is you have a candidate already, there is not a rush to lose. Hillary appeared to be chosen, and now less so, which may mean more candidates will appear. What we seem to have forgotten is that it is almost a year until we should be having this frenzied “discussion.”
            This has all the marks of an “anybody but Obama” campaign. Well, I’ve got news for all, it will be anybody but Obama, as he can’t run again.

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  6. Whatmeworry August 8, 2015

    Barak was the one this Middle East mess and especially Iran’s funding of terrorists and their nuclear program

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    1. Whatmeworry August 8, 2015

      The GOP not Barak was the one this Middle East mess and especially Iran’s funding of terrorists and their nuclear program

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      1. Sand_Cat August 9, 2015

        Your usual failure to “worry” about the truth or accuracy of your posts is showing.

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      2. tomtype August 10, 2015

        One of the problems related to foreign policy, is foreigners see it as American policy, not Republican or Democrat. And viewed from there, a remarkable amount of consistency appears.

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    2. Urbane_Gorilla August 9, 2015

      If you read your history, you’d know that the US has been peeing all over Iran since WWII. Why would they trust us? Further, your total lack of understanding of the various players, the history, the sects, and countries involved in the Middle East is appalling. Amazingly, lack of knowledge doesn’t seem to stop the RW from spouting off.

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      1. Whatmeworry August 9, 2015

        The US had little interest in Iran until the moooslim knuckleheads over threw the Sha ad took U Hostages. At that point they became enemies of free world

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        1. Urbane_Gorilla August 9, 2015

          Again.. You need to read some history instead of spouting nonsense. BTW, ‘mooslim’ just underscores your idiocy.

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          1. Whatmeworry August 9, 2015

            Sorry they are a bunch of degenerates just like the colored in this country

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          2. Urbane_Gorilla August 9, 2015

            You’re an idiot.

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          3. Whatmeworry August 9, 2015

            Lucky I’m not colored or a moooslim unlike yourself

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          4. Urbane_Gorilla August 9, 2015

            Lucky I’m not a mouth breather like you.

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          5. whatmeworryisfatDan Ketter August 11, 2015

            ← Guess who the mouth breather really is?? He’s Dan M Ketter

            Urbine,

            The whatmeworry troller is really Dan Ketter, a bigot from Williamsburg Virginia (aka Mandinka, nofedjobs, many others), who is is nothing more than a bitter retired automotive desk clerk with Ford Motors, an online troll and military impostor, pretending to be a retired Air Force Colonel and military pilot, when in fact, dan never served in the military, nor does he know how to fly a plane. It’s also part of his fantasy portraying himself as a republican teaparty watch dog, and fabricating the facts as much as he can because he has no
            accountability online.

            The truth is, Whatmeworry/dan actually dodged the Vietnam War draft to stay in college (playing flag football and racquetball with his frat boys in his own words), then could only get part time work as a college teaching assistant (calling himself a professor…right!) after his draft deferment. Thegovt wouldn’t hire him for civil service (why he hates federal employees), but he eventually got a non-union job on Ford’s payroll entering parts data into a computer day after day (why he’s a labor organization hater). He’s a bigot, and the worst kind of scumbag out there.

            Ck for yourself whatmeworrys bogus online profiles and their timelines and have a laugh!

            https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-ketter/85/b37/883USAF RETIRED????
            June 1996 – June 2001 (5 years 1 month)???? Liar!

            Here big dan still pretending to be an Air Force Colonel on two of his facebook pages.
            https://www.facebook.com/public/Dan-M-Ketter

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          6. Urbane_Gorilla August 11, 2015

            Wow! Looks like you pegged him pretty well… Haha! But trolls are just part of the blog scene.

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          7. whatmeworryisfatDan Ketter August 11, 2015

            Trolling a troll makes me feel like Robin Hood!

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          8. Urbane_Gorilla August 12, 2015

            It’s just plain fun! ;-D

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          9. whatmeworryisfatDan Ketter August 13, 2015

            I feel no guilt trolling a troll, especially a schmuck like dannno ketter!

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          10. jmprint August 10, 2015

            Lucky there is only one of you. The world would be much better without you. Smell better anyway.

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          11. whatmeworryisfatDan Ketter August 11, 2015

            ← Exposing whatmeworry?? He’s Dan M Ketter

            jmprint,

            Whatmeworry troller is really Dan Ketter, a bigot from Williamsburg Virginia (aka Mandinka, nofedjobs, many others), who is is nothing more than a bitter retired automotive desk clerk with Ford Motors, an online troll and military impostor, pretending to be a retired Air Force Colonel and military pilot, when in fact, dan never served in the military, nor does he know how to fly a plane. It’s also part of his fantasy portraying himself as a republican teaparty watch dog, and fabricating the facts as much as he can because he has no
            accountability online.

            The truth is, Whatmeworry/dan actually dodged the Vietnam War draft to stay in college (playing flag football and racquetball with his frat boys in his own words), then could only get part time work as a college teaching assistant (calling himself a professor…right!) after his draft deferment. Thegovt wouldn’t hire him for civil service (why he hates federal employees), but he eventually got a non-union job on Ford’s payroll entering parts data into a computer day after day (why he’s a labor organization hater). He’s a bigot, and the worst kind of scumbag out there.

            Ck for yourself whatmeworrys bogus online profiles and their timelines and have a laugh!

            https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-ketter/85/b37/883USAF RETIRED????
            June 1996 – June 2001 (5 years 1 month)???? Liar!

            Here big dan still pretending to be an Air Force Colonel on two of his facebook pages.
            https://www.facebook.com/public/Dan-M-Ketter

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          12. whatmeworryisfatDan Ketter August 11, 2015

            Lucky I’m fat dan ketter, a white trash retired automotive parts clerk, military impostor, and Vietnam War draft dodger.

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          13. Whatmeworry August 11, 2015

            Sorry they are not a bunch of degenerates unlike the dan ketter family in this country

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        2. Bill Quigley August 11, 2015

          In the spring of 1953 the CIA under President Eisenhower assisted the British in overthrowing the elected government of Iran and installed the Shah so BP could continue to steal their oil. This action eventually paved the way for the Iranian Revolution.

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      2. jamesowens August 10, 2015

        you talking facts and knowledge. come on these people think they get the facts from fox don’t look any farther or the truth

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        1. Urbane_Gorilla August 10, 2015

          I’ve voted GOP from Nixon through Bush Jr’s 1st term. Starting at the time when Newt Gingrich offered his ‘Contract With America’ in an attempt to beef up the party’s ranks, the RW has become a yowling crowd of religious nuts, gun nuts, war mongers and racists. It’s a sad reflection on our founders that expected an ‘informed electorate.’ What used to be a party comprised of intellectuals like Barry Goldwater and William Buckley now ignore fact for their froth-at-the-mouth marching song. I now vote Democrat. Not because I’m any different, but because my old party has resolved itself into a rampaging horde of no-nothings and deniers.

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          1. jamesowens August 10, 2015

            WFB would have a long day speaking about his party today

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          2. Urbane_Gorilla August 10, 2015

            As would Eisenhower’s caution against the ‘military industrial complex’ bleeding our nation, or Barry Goldwater’s caution about allowing religion to poison our politics. But what we have is the bastard child of a fading party that could only swell their ranks with the mindless idiots.

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          3. jamesowens August 11, 2015

            Eisenhower ‘s farewell speech to the nation warned of the danger not from Russia and the east but the from the worse danger f the corporations and oligarchy rising in our own back yards an he was right

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          4. Urbane_Gorilla August 11, 2015

            Absolutely. What we call our ‘Defense Budget’ is really our ‘War Budget’. Our total real Defense cost each year (Military, CIA, TSA, DHS, NSA, FBI, foreign aid, VA, etc..etc..) is over $1 Trillion per year, or about 30%+ of our discretionary budget. That’s absurd! Eisenhower was right.

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    3. Whatmeworry August 13, 2015

      Coward Dan M Ketter pulled a Bill Clinton and avoided the draft with a deferment to stay in college during the Vietnam era, and is a military impostor pretending to be a retired Colonel and pilot who served in the Air Force. What a sad demented old man this retired automotive desk clerk really is.

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  7. bobnstuff August 8, 2015

    People don’t seem to realize that Iran does not need anything from the out side world to build a bomb. They have the American trained engineers they need. This is an educated country who have built an economy with out having to go out side. They build their own cars and tanks, More important is they build their own rockets. This isn’t North Korea. If this agreement isn’t signed they will have a bomb that works in short order.

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  8. Louis Allen August 8, 2015

    Cynthia Tucker, you little P O S:
    After calling Dr. Ben Carson, a man whose shoes you don’t qualify to lick with your venomous snake tongue, “the GOP’s latest black mascot, a court jester, a minstrel show.”, you have disqualified yourself from any participation in any measured, intelligent analysis of any political issue.
    Cynthia, besides being a CRETIN, you have shown what crazy/leftist/liberal/socialist/mindless hateful TTURDS are capable of.
    So you venomous snake can just go right to hhhhell.

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    1. Daniel Jones August 8, 2015

      Louis?

      Dr. Carson might as well change his first name to “Tom”.

      I’m sorry if you like him, but he’s a shill and a convenience for the Republican Party, which is what she was saying.

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      1. Louis Allen August 9, 2015

        Daniel?

        Your comments are a telltale of your pure, unadulterated stupidity.

        Dr. Ben Carson is a world renowned brain surgeon, a BRILLIANT man, a gentleman, and a gentle man.

        Neither you, dumbass, nor (even less) a kkcockroach as Cynthia Tucker possess the moral or intellectual wherewithal to lick his shoes.

        Daniel, get this through your thick and empty skull: You libturds are more than willing to insult people who do not have your same “principles” (my overstatement) and beliefs, but you are offended when somebody responds in kind. In other words (so that you dumbass can understand it), you can certainly dish it out but you can’t take it.

        After agreeing with this complete ydiot Cynthia Tucker’s INSULTS, don’t come running and crying when we Conservatives call your Hussein Obammy Court Buffoon, half-black-half-white, communist PUPPET, a MMORONN.

        Now go back to your kkockroaches nest.

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        1. jamesowens August 10, 2015

          your childish cursing and repetitious rhetoric lacks proof- facts and a legitimate argument . until you say something new- or show proof your constant repeat of your tired opinion is boring and wasting space

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          1. Louis Allen August 10, 2015

            No. It is just that you do not have the intellectual or moral wherewithal to go “one on one” with me. I am too much for you dummy!!

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          2. jamesowens August 11, 2015

            LMAO 1 on1 with you. LOL it s like debating honey boo boo or having a serious talk about politics with paris Hilton. vacant-vapid-void and intellectually non existent your a joke and to stupid to shut up

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          3. Louis Allen August 11, 2015

            First, learn correct English spelling.
            Then, and not before, I might allow you the honor of my attention to what you cretin are trying to convey.
            In the meantime,….stay with the other kkcockroaches….

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    2. Paragryne August 9, 2015

      Classy. What makes your comment any better?

      Reply
      1. Louis Allen August 9, 2015

        It was not my intention to be classy with such a venomous snake as this Cynthia Tucker. It is certainly very hard to be “classy” with kkockroaches such as Ms. Tucker.

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        1. Paragryne August 9, 2015

          Then well done.

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    3. Sand_Cat August 9, 2015

      Another pathetic post from one of our resident lunatics.

      Reply
      1. Louis Allen August 9, 2015

        Sand:
        I guess it takes one to know one.
        LOL !!!

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        1. Sand_Cat August 10, 2015

          One to another, huh?
          I guess that means you must agree with my opinion that Ben Carson is just another lunatic?

          Reply
          1. Louis Allen August 10, 2015

            No at all !!
            Dr. Ben Carson is a BRILLIANT mind, a world class neurosurgeon, a world class humanitarian, a self-made man if there ever was one, a complete gentleman and a gentle man.
            His only ” deficiency” is that he does something that you $tupid libturds HATE: He calls a spade ” a spade”.
            Your idol Barack Obammy would KKill to have his record and his life achievements.

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          2. Sand_Cat August 10, 2015

            You idiots never learn.

            Neither Barack Obama nor any other political figure is my idol. Unlike morons like you, I try not to elevate any of “my” party’s candidates to the godlike status to which they aspire and which you obviously assign to Carson, someone totally out of his depth, just like almost all of your candidates. Your attempt at clever putdowns does not impress.

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          3. jamesowens August 10, 2015

            LOL yep celebrate palin- Michele bachman – Lindsey graham -or any bonehead republicant from texas they are living proof of a GOP intelligence level far below the level of cole slaw

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          4. idamag August 24, 2015

            Louis Allen is living proof of the Republicans lack of intelligence.

            Reply
          5. Louis Allen August 10, 2015

            Come on Sandy!
            You would LICK Obammy’s dd1ck whenever he COMMANDED you !!
            You know that for a fact.

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          6. jmprint August 11, 2015

            He is a surgeon, not GOD. He is man not flawless, He is human, not immortal, He is Ben Carson, not President Obama, the best yet.

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          7. Louis Allen August 11, 2015

            The best yet. You mean the best socialist yet?
            You killed me with laughter !!!

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          8. jmprint August 11, 2015

            Couldn’t get it all out in one response, could you. So if he is so socialist, why haven’t I received a weeks vacation check from the government? I guess the difference between you and me is that I do fear God.

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          9. Louis Allen August 11, 2015

            Wrong again!
            The difference between us is that I respect a great man like Dr. Ben Carson and you agree with this CRETIN, drooling idiot Cynthia Tucker.
            But of course you do!! You are a drooling, crazy idiot yourself.

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          10. jmprint August 11, 2015

            You didn’t answer my question, you went straight to your book of calling names. You don’t know me, and I really don’t care to know you, so if you can’t handle a conversation with your silly name calling, then do us all a favor and stick to newsmax where they welcome and blend with your inauspicious breed.

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          11. Louis Allen August 11, 2015

            I didn’t answer your question because it was rhetorical and thus was not asked to get an answer. I guess that’s too complex for you.
            As to sticking to Newsmax, I will do whatever I want and you cretin can’t do anything about it.
            You are what Gruber was talking about.

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          12. Louis Allen August 11, 2015

            He is not God; how true!!
            Only Obama is God !!!!

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    4. jamesowens August 10, 2015

      that’s right you tell him LOL we all know allen west is the new trained minority clown or the GOP. Carson just want some free promo and will sell his soul for his 20 min of fame

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      1. Louis Allen August 10, 2015

        Aha, jamesowens (another stupid wannabe who steals great people’s names !!):
        Another kkcockroach who years ago lost the capacity to recognize real (as opposed to perceived) class and uniqueness in a fellow human being.
        Dr. Ben Carson is a BRILLIANT man, a world-class neurosurgeon, a world-class humanitarian, a self-made man (if there ever was one), a gentleman and a gentle man whose record, integrity and character Barack WOULD KILL FOR !!
        In the eyes of $tupid libTURDS like you (and this KKcockroach Cynthia Tucker), his main “fault” is his despise for something called “political correctness”, a sacred cow of libTURDS that is actually the basis for our great Nation being taken over by Sharia Law in 2 decades.

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        1. jamesowens August 10, 2015

          you are a comedy act on a typewriter. your opinions are without proof .your accusations are childish- your insults redundant. you must be one of the talking heads paid to show up and support the gop just like the paid actors for the trump rallys. you should go back to your mommas basement and continue to play with your winkie as you look at picture of maude

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          1. Louis Allen August 10, 2015

            James:
            1) change your name. You are bringing dishonor to the real James Owens.
            2) YOUR opinion s are without proof (what you dumbass do not realize is that “opinions” are exactly that: opinions. They do not need any “proof”, you 1diot!!!)
            3) Everybody here can see right through you: you sre a buffoon.
            You go back to your Mommy’s basement.

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      2. idamag August 24, 2015

        Have noticed that when the GOP puts up a Black candidate, they shoose someone unelectable like Carson and Cain.

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    5. jmprint August 11, 2015

      You satin will be there with open arms welcoming her to your home hhell!

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      1. Louis Allen August 11, 2015

        Jmprint:
        Your handle sounded familiar.
        You are the woman who likes to pass herself as a man.
        Ludicrous.
        Tdk,tsk,tsk…..

        Reply
        1. jmprint August 12, 2015

          No I’m the cross dresser that you fondled at the bar the other day, remember!!!! You must be getting alzheimer.

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          1. Louis Allen August 12, 2015

            Very good!!
            Still playing “both leagues”, huh??

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  9. sunflower52 August 9, 2015

    Since Beny Yahoo has be wringing his hands about Iran getting a bomb since, at least 1991, I need someone to explain something for me…several something’s actually. First, how long does it take to produce enough enriched uranium to build just one bomb (I would think one would be enough to take out Israel). Secondly, couldn’t that same uranium be purchased on the blackmarket (there are enough players out there that might have some on hand Russia, China)? Thirdly, after decades of supposedly working towards developing a bomb…are the Iranians just slow workers or miserably inept bomb builders? Fourthly, are the Iranian leaders stupid enough to actually use a nuclear weapon on Israel as it would surely poison most of the region making it uninhabitable? Lastly, are the Iranians so stupid as not to know that using said bomb would result in their country becoming one big glass plate after they in turn were nuked? They have their wild-eyed ” let’s all go to Heaven and get our virgins attitudes” and we have the Westboro Baptist Church crazies here. Neither of those two groups should be listened to, but the noise they make preaching to other crazies often drowns out the voices of the more rational. Answers please.

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    1. Urbane_Gorilla August 9, 2015

      You are so correct. The prevailing winds in the Middle East blow West to East. Any bomb dropped on Israel, aside from decimating the Palestinians, would blow back over several countries including Iran. How stupid do the GOP think they are.

      Furthermore, can someone tell me why as part of the nuke deal, Israel isn’t obliged to also sign onto the IAEA and have their nukes inspected? Iran hasn’t attacked anyone in over 150 years, whereas Israel premptively strikes whenever it feels the need. Something is very wrong with this type of thinking.

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  10. Urbane_Gorilla August 9, 2015

    Obama’s biggest mistake in getting support for the Iran Nuke deal was coming out in support of it. If he really wanted the GOP to support it, he should have panned it as being ‘awful for America and Israel’…There would have been a Republican stampede to enact it.

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    1. Louis Allen August 9, 2015

      You are not “urbane”; you are a Stupid Gorilla for saying that.

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      1. Urbane_Gorilla August 9, 2015

        Uhhhh…Louie…That was a joke….Get it…Here..Let me explain it to you…Uhh ..Never mind.

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        1. Louis Allen August 9, 2015

          Perhaps yours was a joke (a very bad one because it makes you sound stupid), but my calling you “Stupid Gorilla” was not.
          It is a FACT.
          You ymbecile libturds can dish it out but you can’t take it.
          Confirmed once again.

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          1. Urbane_Gorilla August 9, 2015

            First it’s ‘imbecile’ and secondly, it’s ‘libtards’… And seriously? Stupid Gorilla? Whoa! That’s low.. I mean you ‘useless allen wrench’… LMAO! You’re such a tool, I bet you’d vote for Ben Carson.. 😉

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          2. Louis Allen August 9, 2015

            First: I wrote “ymbecile” because the ydiots (there I go again) at TNM have been known to “censor” some of my posts for using language that “offends” (give me a break !) you libtUrds (explained below).
            Secondly, “libTURDS was used on purpose, you ymbecile (there I go yet again!!)
            Third: I CERTAINLY would, and WILL vote for Dr. Ben Carson for President. Why won’t you?? Because he is too honest for a gorilla like you? Because he is the “wrong” kind of black (Obammy being the “right” kind, of course !)

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          3. Urbane_Gorilla August 10, 2015

            Well, any preteen knows when you wish to disguise a word so it wings past the censors, you replace a letter with another letter or number similar to it. In other words, for the word ‘idiot’, any 10 year old would use ‘1’ or ‘l’ (lower case L) for ‘i’, or ‘0’ (zero) for the ‘o’.

            Actually, I did get that you purposely used Libturd, even though RWers like you seem to have settled on Libtard…Again, if you have to explain a joke, then it’s wasted anyway.

            Of course you’d vote for Carson…That’s why I put it in my comment. It’s what is known as a ‘tease’. I recognized that he’s the type of person that caters to your intellect level.

            Hey! When you graduate to high school, feel free to contact me again.

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          4. Louis Allen August 10, 2015

            Yes, tiny gorilla:
            Dr. Ben Carson is too imposing a hero figure for an 1diot (you see? I did learn something from you) to accept or understand. His is the REAL American achievement story (as opposed to your hero Obammy, a man that had everything handed to him by his socialist mentors and his nincompoop backers).
            So it has become more and more obvious to me that you are part of the majority of blacks (I don’t care for the Afro- American bullll$hit) who want and long to remain INSIDE of the Plantation set up (in perpetuity) by your liberal DemocRat Plantation managers and owners.
            It’s ok, you $tupid servant, to want the WHITES take “care” of you forever. Just keep voting for them.
            If only you could “see the light” that is right in front of you!!
            But I know, I know, you prefer to remain “entitled” to your government mandated benefits.
            It is ok. It is ok. It is ok.
            Just keep thinking that liberal DemocRats are your friends and we will meet again 3 generations from now and we will confirm that your grandchildren have the same sad scarcity that you had in 2015,…
            ……. but at least are enjoying the “fruits” of selling your pitiful souls to the DemocRat masters.
            Go ahead, keep thinking like that….

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          5. jmprint August 11, 2015

            Why don’t you preach your entitlement shittypitty story to your republican friends in the red states that suck up the majority of the tax dollars, and guess what, they are mostly white.

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          6. Urbane_Gorilla August 12, 2015

            Really? Please show me ONE contradiction…

            You quote Reagan? A guy that squandered our positive national debt, screwed the citizenry out of their tax breaks while handing them over to the wealthy, and illegally ignored Congress to fund Iranians with drug money from Nicaraguan terrorists? Real good choice!

            Here’s a better quote: “He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is full of falsehoods and errors.” – Thomas Jefferson ..

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          7. jmprint August 12, 2015

            OK Urbane _Gorilla please do show me where I quoted Reagan! Maybe you need to take that mask off so you can read better. It was the town idiot Louis Allen.

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          8. Urbane_Gorilla August 12, 2015

            I was responding to your last comment “President Reagan said it best: “The problem w our liberal friends is not that they don’t know anything, but that they know so much that just ain’t so.”

            Now..Show me my contradiction…Presuming you can focus for more than two seconds. Idiot.

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          9. jmprint August 12, 2015

            Let me say this a little slower so you can understand:
            I t w a s n’ t m e, i t w a s L o u i s e A l l e n.

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          10. Urbane_Gorilla August 12, 2015

            You’re right.. didn’t see you slide into the middle of the conversation. My bad.

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          11. Louis Allen August 12, 2015

            You BOTH m00r00ns and CRETINS had me in stitches here !!!
            Seeing how
            two absolute YDIOT dumbasses cursed at each other and almost kkilled
            each other, ….. without being able to realize that they were both
            wrong, ……PRICELESS !!!
            ROTFLMAO !!!

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          12. Louis Allen August 12, 2015

            Oh, (yet again) confused little monkey (gorilla?? ha, haa!):
            You idiot AGAIN contradict yourself before a superior mind like mine: You just tried to put Reagan down but you forgot a little detail. And that is that you previously said: “I’ve voted GOP from Nixon through Bush Jr’s 1st term.”
            So, what’ll it be tonight, Sir?
            Secondly, you Alzheimer’s affected (ravaged, in reality) SLOB, you got back at that other poor dumbass jmprint for something that I wrote about Reagan, namely (and I’ll repeat it just to make you foam at your toothless mouth yet again): “The problem w our liberal friends is not that they don’t know anything, but that they know so much that just ain’t so.”
            You BOTH m00r00ns and CRETINS had me in stitches here !!!
            Seeing how two absolute YDIOT dumbasses cursed at each other and almost kkilled each other, ….. without being able to realize that they were both wrong, ……PRICELESS !!!
            ROTFLMAO !!!

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          13. Urbane_Gorilla August 11, 2015

            Ben Carson is a joke.

            Glad to see even you can learn something from 10 year olds.

            Hahaaaaaaa… You think I’m black? What a tool! I’m a 66 year old white man, now retired, divorced once, widowed once. I voted GOP from Nixon through Bush Jr’s 1st term, then tried Libertarian..but those fools are loony! Voted Dem the last 2 terms. You see, unlike you, I do learn from the past.

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          14. Louis Allen August 11, 2015

            Wrong again!! YOU cretin are a joke.
            I wasn’t sure whether you were black or not but:
            1) everything I said about you still applies;
            2) your voting democRAT the last 2 terms confirms the kind of idiot you are;
            3) Dr. Ben Carson is a brilliant man. Just because you drooling idiot can’t accept that does not mean he isn’t.

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          15. Urbane_Gorilla August 11, 2015

            Calm down…Your sentence structure is falling apart, and you forgot to use a ‘1’ in idiot! How many times do I have to tell ya?

            You most certainly did think I was black : “it has become more and more obvious to me that you are part of the majority of blacks”…although I have no idea why you’d come to that conclusion. Nothing I said even slightly touched on the subject of race.

            My voting Democrat the last two times is a reflection on the clowns that the GOP pushes to the front. I always vote the ‘best candidate for the job’, and that candidate was a Democrat. Unfortunately, the 17 losers that appeared on FOX News don’t impress me much.

            Ben Carson may be a brilliant man, but he should stick to dividing conjoined twins. He is not a politician, his ‘opinions’ are flawed, contradictory and regressive. In fact Benji doesn’t even have a platform. Of course if the GOP clowns in the FOX debates had been asked to provide a platform as a prerequisite to the debate, there wouldn’t have been any debate.

            Here’s an example of ‘brilliant’ Benji’s thinking:

            – 1990s deregulation paved way for 2008 economic meltdown. (Jan 2012) -versus- The free market works. (Jan 2014)

            So which is it? Do we deregulate and have a free market that works, or not deregulate and prevent meltdowns….

            You see, I actually read what these fools say, check their websites, and look at Politifacts which rates their mouthings for facts and honesty.

            Our founders said they expected we would have an ‘informed electorate’. You fail in that respect. You should just STFU and go away.

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          16. Louis Allen August 11, 2015

            You are such a fool, gorilla. You contradict yourself all the time.
            President Reagan said it best: “The problem w our liberal friends is not that they don’t know anything, but that they know so much that just ain’t so.”
            Get this through your thick and empty skull: I will not STFU but you WILL f*CK yourself.

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          17. Louis Allen August 12, 2015

            Not quite correct that Dr. Ben Carson “may” be a brilliant man. Totally correct that he IS a brilliant man.
            Not quite correct that YOU “may” be an idiot. Totally correct that you ARE an idiot.
            Not quite correct that Barack’s life story “may” be of less merit/achievements than Dr. Carson’s. Totally correct that The Great Obfuscator’s” life story falls way short of Dr. Carson’s and that everything was always handed to him.

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          18. Urbane_Gorilla August 12, 2015

            Benji is a rain man. Nothing more.

            I never mentioned Obama,,but you seem to have an active discussion running in your little pea brain and interpret it as coming from others. Do you also hear voices?

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      2. tomtype August 10, 2015

        Ah, but he has a point.

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        1. Louis Allen August 10, 2015

          No, he doesn’t.
          He is just another ydiot with a mindless “slogan”.

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          1. tomtype August 10, 2015

            I didn’t note any slogan.
            But republicans do seem to react negatively to anything he proposes even if well done and more than adequate. Like we hate the ACA so we will replace it with, well something very like the ACA but not called Obamacare. Or we hate the Iran agreement, although the UN, our allies, and even the Israeli military and security people accept it as the best anyone could get. On the other hand, you do have a point, but if you comb your hair right, no one may notice.

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          2. Louis Allen August 10, 2015

            But of course you didn’t.

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          3. tomtype August 11, 2015

            Slogans are catch phrases. Everything from Black lives matter to Get on the raft with Taft (one of the all time worst). But no slogan evident. Dis you consume something that you see slogans where none exist?

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          4. Louis Allen August 12, 2015

            Get back to me when you finish elementary school.
            You’ll undestand.

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          5. tomtype August 13, 2015

            You mean I have to wait at least another 10 years? You see I got a slo gain. Y’al mebe hav a slo gain inna yer brane two.

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          6. Louis Allen August 13, 2015

            That was gud!!
            Yes, I em slo meself!

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  11. jamesowens August 10, 2015

    cheney and is blackwater Nazis should take their 47 billion in war profiteering and shut up.they started the war for the money how much more can their greed demand at the cost of innocent lives

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  12. kingartie1 August 11, 2015

    And here is Jeb today proclaiming that CLINTON and OBAMA are responsible for ISIS. He is now worse than merely laughable, pathetic and miserably ill-informed. He is now a transparently calculating doofus with no real sense of moral propriety or perspective. Not to mention delusional. Who wrote and shrink-wrapped this speech for him? It is worse than naive, half-assed, ill-effective and ignorant. It is insulting to that portion of America, just enough of a slice of the majority, that swallowed his brother’s disgraceful and very toxic song and dance. We now know how venal, banal and treacherous that was, and here Jeb is repeating the mindset as if he had some direct line to the brain of an Almighty that favored his peculiar wisdom.

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  13. Louis Allen August 13, 2015

    Now, where is Lenora Whitaker when we need her to say something stupid??

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  14. idamag August 24, 2015

    Poem:
    If Only Dick Would Hurry Up and Die

    Old Satan was getting old
    and his back was bent.
    His get-up-and-go-torture
    got up and went.
    At long last the time had come
    for him to retire.
    He was burned out (pun intended)
    from stoking that infernal fire.
    His joints hurt
    His knees gave such pain
    If only he could find someone
    He wouldn’t have to train.
    He sat down at his desk
    to formulate a plan.
    It came to him!
    Dick Cheney was his man.

    Reply

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