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Republicans Talk ’Secession," But Who Would That Hurt?

The loudest sound on the American far right today is the angry whining emitted by sore losers who claim their candidate was defrauded but know for a fact that he was simply defeated. Their tune is grating, but their seditious words are troubling, with supporters of President Donald Trump repeatedly warning of "civil war" and even "secession." Fans of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh hear those ominous words every day now.

Presumably, such divisive sentiment is why many "conservatives" are so enamored of Confederate flags and other such symbols of treason. If the democratic process doesn't give them what they want, they threaten bloodshed and the destruction of the nation to which they once pretended to pledge allegiance.

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Secession And Martial Law Obsess Right-Wing Media Outlets

Reprinted with permission from MediaMatters

After the Supreme Court on Friday declined to hear a lawsuit from Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton to overturn the election, many far-right pro-Trump media figures, social media personalities, Republican Party officials, and former congressional candidates expressed support for secession from the United States or the use of the military to overturn the election which President Donald Trump lost.

The lawsuit sought, in a "seditious abuse of judicial process," to invalidate the election results from several swing states that contributed to President-elect Joe Biden's victory. This extreme attempt to overthrow our democracy garnered mainstream Republican support, with 17 GOP state attorneys general and more than half of House Republicans signing on in support of it.

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‘Civil War’ And ’Secession’ Chatter Getting Louder On Far Right

Reprinted with permission from MediaMatters

Right-wing figures online are now toying with the ultimate act of resistance against Joe Biden's win over Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election: secession and civil war. The idea has picked up steam in the past few days, thanks to a boost it got from talk radio host and Medal of Freedom recipient Rush Limbaugh.

Limbaugh made waves on Wednesday when he said, "I actually think that we're trending toward secession." I see more and more people asking what in the world do we have in common with the people who live in, say, New York?"

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Enraged By Supreme Court Defeat, Texas GOP Chair Suggests Secession

Reprinted with permission from Alternet

After the Supreme Court decisively shut down a lawsuit attempting to overturn the 2020 election, Texas GOP chair Allen West issued a disturbing statement floating the idea of possible secession over the result.

The case was brought by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, though it was widely panned by legal experts. Some believed that Paxton, currently under investigation by the FBI, was using the lawsuit as a vehicle to win President Donald Trump's favor and obtain a presidential pardon. Despite its lack of merit, the president and his allies rallied behind the lawsuit, with Trump himself calling it "the big one" — apparently trying to distinguish it from the more than 50 additional failed election lawsuits filed on his behalf.

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Can The United States Survive The 2020 Election?

At the 2004 Democratic National Convention, a little-known state senator from Illinois electrified the crowd with a speech proclaiming our fundamental unity. "There's not a liberal America and a conservative America; there's the United States of America," Barack Obama declared.

Four years later, he campaigned for president promising that we could overcome our differences. His election offered evidence that he was right. His presidency, however, proved that he was wrong.

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Eastern Ukraine Region Votes On Secession; Separatists Poised To Win

By Carol J. Williams, Los Angeles Times

DONETSK, Ukraine — Galvanized by fear and propaganda, residents of eastern Ukraine voted Sunday in a widely condemned and unmonitored referendum on independence that is expected to be declared an overwhelming victory by its separatist organizers.

Ukraine’s central government in Kiev denounced the balloting in the self-proclaimed People’s Republic of Donetsk as illegal, noting that territorial changes can be put to a vote only on a nationwide basis.

U.S. and European leaders warned the Kremlin and the pro-Russia militants occupying government headquarters in the eastern Ukraine region that they were enflaming already dangerously volatile passions in the deeply divided area long dominated by Moscow.

Russian President Vladimir Putin had called four days earlier for postponement of the vote at the urging of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Russia to allow more time for negotiation and diplomacy to resolve the Ukraine crisis.

But deadly confrontations earlier this month in the Ukrainian port cities of Odessa and Mariupol presented by Kremlin-controlled media as evidence of fascist aggression by the Ukrainian leadership in Kiev provided a groundswell of support for distancing this largely Russian-speaking region from the rest of Ukraine.

The single referendum question was simple in its wording but vague in its intent: Do you support the act of independence for the People’s Republic of Donetsk?

Some, like medic Ninel Lvovich, said they voted “yes” out of despair that the region’s problems can be resolved by either Kiev or Moscow.

“We want to decide our own affairs. We don’t want America or Europe coming here, and I don’t think we can count on Russia’s help,” Lvovich said, lamenting the shortages of medicines and supplies at the government hospital where she works and the rising prices for fuel and food in the region.

Others, like agricultural entrepreneur Yevgeny Kremnyev of militant-occupied Svyategorsk, voted for independence with the understanding that their autonomous republic will remain part of Ukraine but with more control over its foreign and economic policies. He said he intended to cast a ballot in the May 25 national presidential election, although he sees no candidate to his liking.

For many who voted in favor of the referendum, like small businessman Sergey Makarenko from the embattled city of Slovyansk, the ballot was a first step toward calling for annexation by Russia in the manner that Ukraine’s Crimean peninsula was absorbed into the neighboring country in mid-March.

“I used to be in favor of a united and independent Ukraine, but not since (interim President Oleksandr) Turchynov came to power,” Makarenko, an ethnic Russian, said in an interview after voting. “All the leaders of Ukraine in its 23 years of independence should be rounded up and put in prison.”

Frustration with the unreformed economy, rampant corruption and antiquated industry of Ukraine’s rust belt regions of Donetsk and Luhansk was a motivating factor for many who voted in the two regions’ referendums on Sunday. But their conflicting expectations of the vote portend more disharmony for the largely Russian-speaking eastern and southern areas historically integrated with Russia.

At the ravaged and barricaded Donetsk regional government headquarters, pro-Russian separatists in grimy camouflage uniforms wielding guns, clubs and crossbows stood guard aside piles of tires, paving stones and barbed wire, vigilant against any move by Kiev-dispatched forces to try to retake control of the city center.

While the gunmen occupy only the one building and the Kiev loyalists they ousted a month ago carry on the work of running the region in temporary quarters only a few blocks away, there is a sense that the pro-Moscow militants can’t be flushed from their stronghold without a massive deployment of force and loss of life.

Opinion polls conducted in April by both foreign and domestic agencies showed a sizable majority – at least 70% even in the eastern regions – opposed to secession from Ukraine or union with Russia.

But the May 2 clash between separatists and Ukrainian government supporters in Odessa that took nearly 50 lives, mostly pro-Russian militants, sent shock waves through the east.

On Friday’s World War II Victory Day holiday, another violent confrontation between supporters and opponents of a united Ukraine left at least seven dead in Mariupol. That battle was portrayed by Kremlin-controlled Russian media as evidence that the Kiev government is bent on recovering the occupied areas even if it has to shoot innocent bystanders to do so.

Supporters of the interim government that took power in Kiev following the February ouster of President Viktor Yanukovich were hard to find in this city of 1 million, despite the pro-Russia gunmen’s limited physical control. At a shopping center on the outskirts of Donetsk, only one of dozens of shoppers approached about the referendum said he had stayed away from the polling places because he considered the ballot “illegal.”

“I don’t like these guys. I don’t like where this is going at all. I don’t want to kill anyone, so why do so many people have guns?” said Dmitri Postolovsky, a 33-year-old design engineer. He noted that the balloting was unsupervised and entirely lacking in automated tabulation.

At the occupied government headquarters, where electricity has been shut off in a vain attempt to drive out the militants, the breakaway Donetsk leadership predicted results would be determined by Monday afternoon.

Central Election Commission Director Roman Lagin said more than 69 percent of the Donetsk region’s 3.5 million eligible voters had cast ballots by 4 p.m. He disputed reports by foreign media and Ukrainian government forces that several cars had been stopped at roadblocks and found to be delivering already filled-out ballots in favor of independence.

At a press conference inside the squalid Donetsk Republic headquarters, where the stairwells connecting 11 floors looted of furniture and office equipment are covered with cigarette butts and scraps of discarded food, Lagin was asked if the region would participate in the May 25 presidential election.

“That would make no sense at all for the independent Donetsk Republic to take part in a Ukrainian government election,” he said, presuming, as most here do, that the as-yet-uncounted vote will be a landslide victory for separation from Kiev.

© / Alexander Khudoteply

Rick Perry, Undefeated

Texas Gov. Rick Perry has some Democratic strategists gleefully looking forward to running against a hard-right Tea Party Republican who has toyed with secession and looks an awful lot like George W. Bush. But his record of leaving opponents in the dust is well documented:

Since 1984, the man once derided as “Governor Good Hair” has participated in ten contested elections and won all of them. A few were against relatively weak opposition, but many were against prominent figures who were expected to give Perry a run for his money. Jim Hightower, John Sharp, Tony Sanchez, Chris Bell, Carole Keeton Strayhorn, Kay Bailey Hutchison, Bill White—you could competently govern a medium-sized republic with political talent like that. But all of them fell to Perry’s deep coffers, disciplined campaign style, occasional refusal to debate, and (semi-) popularity among Texans.

Texas political scientists I spoke to when I wrote about Perry’s candidacy in waiting last month said the same thing: Perry is consistently underestimated, and often clobbers his initially-favored opponents.

Rick Perry’s Five Greatest Assets in the Republican Primary

Texas Governor Rick Perry, who won a third term last fall by oozing hostility to the federal government in between outbursts of aggressive Southern braggadocio, is more likely than ever to join the Republican presidential race, probably sometime this summer, according to the Wall Street Journal.

A Republican campaign veteran tells us that Texas Governor Rick Perry has decided to run for President, though the official word from Team Perry is still a definite maybe.

The thinking is that apparent front-runner Mitt Romney “does not reflect the Republican Party” and is therefore vulnerable to a credible challenge from the right, especially after Mr. Romney’s recent squishy remarks on global warming.

Republican consultants and political scientists I’ve spoken with gush about this guy and his potential to be the one Republicans “fall in love with.”

For the sake of thoroughness, let’s review some of the more colorful things the governor has said/done in the past few years:

1) Speaking recently to Evangelical Hispanics in Los Angeles, Perry claimed that, “Under Obama, our federal tax dollars can now be used to fund abortion all over the world. With the stroke of a pen, abortion essentially became a U.S. foreign export.”

2) When reelected in 2006, Perry invited conservative folk-hero and musician Ted Nugent to play at his inaugural ball. The Michigan native burst onto stage with a shirt embossed with the Confederate flag and spewed invective’s against non-English speakers.

3) Interviewed by The San Angelo Standard-Times about education policy, Perry said, “I am a firm believer in intelligent design as a matter of faith and intellect, and I believe it should be presented in schools alongside the theories of evolution.”

4) Discussing the federal government’s role in providing Social Security and other guaranteed benefits to society’s most vulnerable, Perry said states should be able to opt-out and do their own thing. “Why is the federal government even in the pension program or the health care delivery program?” he asked on MSNBC’s Morning Joe earlier this year, apparently unaware Social Security has been extremely popular since its creation in the mid 1930s.

5) I saved the best, and most notorious, for last. Addressing a Tea Party rally chanting “secede” at the height of the healthcare fight in spring 2009, Perry intoned, “We’ve got a great union. There’s absolutely no reason to dissolve it. But if Washington continues to thumb their nose at the American people, you know, who knows what might come out of that.”

This guy scratches Republicans’ existential anti-Obama itch, and if he jumps in, his outrageous comments are likely to help–rather than hurt–his candidacy.