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This Week In Crazy: The Gays Are Coming! The Gays Are Coming!

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This Week In Crazy: The Gays Are Coming! The Gays Are Coming!

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Welcome to This Week In Crazy, The National Memo’s weekly update on the wildest attacks, conspiracy theories, and other loony behavior from the increasingly unhinged right wing. Starting with number five:

5. Sandy Rios

On Wednesday, Sandy Rios, the Director of Governmental Affairs for the American Family Association (AFA), was brought onto MSNBC not once, but twice, to clarify — as so many conservatives have — that the religious freedom laws currently drawing so much criticism are not about discrimination. They’re just about empowering individuals and businesses to single out a segment of the population and treat them differently. Wait…

Rios recently enjoined Christians to “prepare for martyrdom” over legalized gay marriage, so she could arguably call herself an expert on discrimination. Just maybe not the kind of expert Chris Matthews should invite on his show.

According to the Gospel of Sandy, these laws are really about protecting everybody. The group getting the most attention now just happen to be Christians, a notoriously persecuted minority in this country, because they’re “really taking a hit” over this whole equal rights thingy.

Via Media Matters.

4. Glenn Beck

Glenn Beck kicked off his radio show Wednesday with a powerful statement of tolerance: “You can’t legislate morality. This is why we have to heal our hearts. This is why we have to get to know each other. This is why we have to stand with each other.”

And all across the land, Americans both red and blue leaned forward in their chairs, waiting for the other shoe to drop. Did Glenn’s heart grow three sizes that day? No, of course not. He kept on talking.

“Let’s stop forcing each other to do things. You don’t change anything. That ends up in concentration camps!” Whew, I was worried for a moment. He went on to confirm that everything was humming along as usual in Becklandia by announcing that if things keep going the way they’re going (you know, towards wide acceptance of gay rights), we’re all gonna end up in Bergen-Belsen. If he ever manages to make it through a whole hour without invoking Nazis and mass murder, then we’ll know we’ve finally lost the old boy.


Via Right Wing Watch.

3. Michael Leahy

Senator Harry Reid, what aren’t you telling us about your injuries? Did a rubber band really snap off while you were exercising in the bathroom? Breitbart‘s Michael Leahy is on the case.

Turns out if you examine every last detail of Reid’s bathroom, as Leahy apparently has time to do, and filter it through a lens of paranoia that would embarrass Howard Hughes, you can file a Reid Truther report that will make you the laughingstock of the Lamestream Media (and Reid’s communication director, who delivered the yuks on Twitter in merciless fashion).

The leading theory behind Reid’s injuries is that the senator failed to follow through on a promise he made to some unsavory Mafia elements, in whose pocket he has languished for decades, of course. Conservative bloggers don’t have much in the way of facts here, but when did that ever stop them? (Speaking of facts, Harry Reid’s security detail was present and drove him to the hospital, so this must’ve been one audacious Mob hit.)

Keep digging, Mike. You’re on (to) something.

Via Breitbart.

2. Michele Bachmann

How low can Michele Bachmann go? Each time she opens her mouth, the universe’s mean average of lunacy ticks up a notch. It must be her lifelong project — to boldly go where unreason and poor taste never even thought to go.

But on Tuesday, the former Minnesota congresswoman really went “There” — that proverbial node where being ignorant, outlandish, stupid, and hateful all intersect. She likened President Obama’s leadership to a pilot crashing a plane full of people into the Alps. Here, in her own insipid words:

Bachmann FacebookKeep it classy, Michele.

Via Mediaite. Screenshot via Facebook.

1. Pat Robertson

Bringing up the fore of this week’s list, Pat Robertson would like to share a word or two about the nightmarish fantasia that will engulf the nation if The Gays get their, y’know, equal rights.

“You might as well keep your mouth shut,” Robertson says as the video begins, and then proceeds not to follow his own advice. On Thursday’s edition of The 700 Club, he paints a hellish picture of the Freudian haunted house of repressed desire that is his brain an America where gays and lesbians have the same rights he does. “It doesn’t matter what holy thing that you worship and adore, the gays are going to get it,” Robertson says. “They’re going to make you conform to them. You are going to say you like anal sex, you like oral sex, you like bestiality, you like anything you can think of, whatever it is.”


He proceeds to catalog all the secret yearnings in his heart things he fears will come about once we start treating LGBT citizens like fellow humans: bestiality, polyamory. polygamy, and so forth. “What’s so terrible about having sex with animals?” he asks, we assume rhetorically. “What’s wrong with you?” What, indeed.

Via Right Wing Watch.

Screenshot: YouTube

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Sam Reisman

Sam Reisman is the former managing editor at The National Memo, where he still writes the weekly "This Week In Crazy" column. His writing has appeared in Flavorpill, The Huffington Post, Columbia Daily Spectator, and Bwog. He was the publisher of the 2010 edition of Inside New York, an annual guidebook to the city for students and young professionals.

Since 2011, he has co-curated and hosted Peculiar Streams, a showcase for NYC-based writers, musicians, comedians, and filmmakers. He is a staff writer at Mediaite, and blogs at SamReisman.com.

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  1. FireBaron April 3, 2015

    Thank you Former Congresswoman Bachmann for proving the crazy doesn’t go away.

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  2. TZToronto April 3, 2015

    As for Robertson, Methinks he doth protest too much.

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    1. latebloomingrandma April 3, 2015

      My thoughts also. Anyone want to bet that he has a little bit of porn on his computer? For “research” purposes, I’m sure.

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      1. TZToronto April 3, 2015

        He’d probably say that he’s crazy because all that porn warped his brain and turned him gay.

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        1. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

          I would love to see him in a leather bar covered in whip cream with one candle sticking up.

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          1. TZToronto April 3, 2015

            So we can agree on something? LOL

            ——————————

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    2. idamag April 3, 2015

      good point

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    3. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

      His mind seems to obsess about his prostate. I think I know a cure.

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  3. Jerpell April 3, 2015

    I think what the headline was supposed to say is that the gays are cumming…..
    Something about two men trying to conceive that just doesn’t seem moral to me…..

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    1. InsideEye April 3, 2015

      Yes, I am sure they have cum many times , thank goodness they missed most of us. Seems like this group makes up only 3.7 % of the population and make a lot of grunts. They want their cake and eat it too.

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      1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

        Do you two walk upright yet?

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        1. InsideEye April 3, 2015

          Do not want to bend over with this group. That’s is what made earlier primates to walk upright , some say . Even Obama tries to walk like a true Black man , but due to his mix , he has a slight gait that shows he is faking it…. Some observed .
          He has the best of all worlds with Michelle, observed by some.

          I prefer women , wish I was moslem so can have many more wives, they are easy to behead if they do not give . …

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        2. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

          There are certain things that are hard to do standing up.

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    2. idamag April 3, 2015

      Clean up your filthy mind and get your nose out of other peoples’ crotches.

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  4. dtgraham April 3, 2015

    “What’s so terrible about having sex with animals?”, Pat Robertson asks rhetorically. Well let’s face it, having sex with a Tasmanian Devil might not turn out all that well. As Pat Robertson knows, love between same-sex partners is just one small step away from sex with a Tasmanian Devil.

    As Pat once said, America is a free society which limits the role of government in the lives of it’s citizens. In America, people are free to choose how they live their lives. That’s why he wants to ban gay people from getting married. Pat agreed with Citizens United and thinks corporations are people with constitutional rights. He just doesn’t think homosexuals are people with constitutional rights.

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    1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

      Tasmanian Devils. 🙂 Good one.

      Good point regarding constitutional rights of corps and homosexual people.
      I want them to keep going down the corp path though because once that corporate veil is pierced all those human type people , officers and shareholders alike can be sued personally and be held liable for it’s debts. The back pedaling will be a joy to watch.

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      1. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

        Thumbs up to you. I think it would be fun to watch together I will even furnish a chair for you to sit in while you watch. And NO it will not be electrified.

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      2. dtgraham April 3, 2015

        Was thinking of going with Komodo Dragon. Choices, choices.

        Good observation on the unlimited liability of “people”.

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    2. idamag April 3, 2015

      You can see that limited government does not stop unlimited government in bedrooms.

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      1. Dave April 3, 2015

        If you don’t want anyone in your bedroom. Stay out of my Health Care.

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        1. dtgraham April 3, 2015

          We just want to make sure that you always have health care Dave.

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          1. idamag April 4, 2015

            No body is in his health care. He is not required by law to procure health care. He can pay a fine for not having it, but he won’t go to jail. If he did not have healthcare before the ACA, then it was my business as $800 out of every $2500 i was charged for hospital and doctor care, went to pay for those who can’t, don’t or won’t. What people are doing in their bedrooms does not affect him. At least it wouldn’t if he would just get his nose out of their crotches.

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          2. dtgraham April 4, 2015

            Never thought of that. If Dave should ever not have health insurance and can’t pay the ER, it is going to affect your insurance. He wants you to stay out of his health care but that would put him in your health care.

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    3. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

      Maybe he is right he does speak for god.

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      1. dtgraham April 3, 2015

        Oh man. I went through all of Pat Robertson’s more famous quotes in trying to think of something to post, and I think my eyes popped out of my head like Roger Rabbit. I’d better buy some asbestos suitcases if I plan on taking it with me. If Pat Robertson truly speaks for god, that god must be one sick maniac.

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  5. Dave April 3, 2015

    When are all of you people going to start protesting the Muslim’s who will not make a cake for gay couples?

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    1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

      Where are they? Show us and we’ll descend like turkey vultures do when a squirrel gets fried on an electric line.
      Speaking for myself I’m an equal opportunity defender of civil rights.

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      1. Dave April 3, 2015

        The Left wing media should be all over this story. Why are they not outside of all of these shops demanding that they change there ways? The media had no problem finding the Christian shop owners. I also agree and believe in equal rights for all individuals and for religious freedom’s as well.

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        1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

          I don’t know the laws in MI. If an individual is being discriminated against, they can file suit themselves. I’ve no doubt there are businesses all over the country doing the very same thing in the name of their religious beliefs.
          I’m sure if there are bakeries run by Muslims in any one of the states attempting to or violating the civil rights laws they will be affected too.
          To be fair, the majority of shop owners with these beliefs are fundamentalist Christians.
          Religious freedoms are in place and protected however it doesn’t extend to violating the civil rights of others.
          On that point we can agree to disagree otherwise it becomes no more than a circular argument.

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        2. Michael Ross April 3, 2015

          What story? You Tory bastards insist they’re out there, but you can never find one. You just expect us to take your word for it and get all pissy because nobody is reporting on the great big scandal that nobody can find.

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          1. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

            You are going to have to get off the porn sites and start looking.

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  6. Wayne Thorson April 3, 2015

    Pat needs to live by what the Bible says. Hate the sin but love the sinner. The gays take up less than 4% of the American people and yet he fears them taking over the country. It goes to show you where his intellect is. He also should recognize that gays are human beings to not animals.

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    1. paulyz April 3, 2015

      I agree with hate the sin but love the sinner. This law isn’t about discrimination, it’s about the Federal Government forcing people to do something that is against their beliefs. Most people aren’t that concerned with a person’s sexual orientation, just the Federal Government making it a political issue. Time to discuss the real important issues that get ignored by these distractions.

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      1. Dave April 3, 2015

        Paulyz, I agree also love the person and hate the sin.

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        1. Independent1 April 3, 2015

          That really means a lot – one outright bigoted and hypocritical RWNJ agreeing with another!! Wow!!

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          1. Dave April 3, 2015

            Hey, LWNJ… Try a little bit harder, I am not the BIGOT that you are.

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          2. Independent1 April 3, 2015

            Hey! When you live in fantasy land you’ll believe anything you want!! You’ve made several comments on this blog which show you’re a RWNJ and if you’re religious at all, keep in mind that Conservative Christian is an OXYMORON. You cannot mix conservativism and Christianity!! Theyare polar opposites!! Conservativism says: think of ME first and then care very little about anyone else. While a true Christian, thinks more highly of everyone else than they do of themself. No TRUE Conservative can make that statement!!

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          3. Dave April 3, 2015

            Matthew:7-5
            Luke6:37
            James 4:11-12
            John 7:24
            Romans 2: 1-3
            Matthew 7: 1-2
            John 3:17
            1 John 4:1
            Romans 16: 17-18
            Have a BLESSED Easter with your loved ones.

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          4. Independent1 April 3, 2015

            Exactly – I am not judging anyone. I am pointing out that by supporting the discrimination of gays or any other minority group IT IS YOU THAT IS UNRIGHTFULLY JUDGING!!

            You have come out in support of a law THAT IS CLEAR DISCRIMINATION BASED ON FALSE JUDGEMENTS OF PEOPLE!!

            YOU’RE THE ONE WHO NEEDS TO LEARN BY WHAT YOU JUST POSTED!!!!!!!!

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          5. Dave April 3, 2015

            Who am I judging?

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          6. Independent1 April 3, 2015

            For starters – gays.

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          7. Dave April 3, 2015

            Why aren’t any of you protesting the Muslim Bakery in Dear Born Michigan? Dose gay rights not matter when its Muslims that are refusening to bake a cake for them? Does it not fit the lefts political agenda? Why are you not forcing them to apologize? Why is the leftwing media so quite about this. If I was a gay person I would wounder why they are not standing up on my behalf when they did all that they could to force the Christian to apologize. As I have said earlier I love the person but hate that lifestyle choice.

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          8. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

            They are afraid of the Muslims.

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          9. dtgraham April 3, 2015

            Of course we all choose our sexual orientation. We could all go either way easily, but most of us make a choice towards one orientation. You’ve apparently chosen the heterosexual lifestyle over the gay lifestyle. How old were you when you made your choice, how long did it take, and what were the factors you weighed in choosing the hetero lifestyle? Can you share your lifestyle choice story with us?

            Like me, I’m sure you were tempted by that fabulous Mardi Gras lifestyle, but still you somehow chose hetero like I did. Since we’re all programmed from birth to have both sexual orientations built in equally, how do you resist the daily temptations from other men to stick with your chosen lifestyle choice? It’s tough for all of us, gay and straight alike.

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          10. Independent1 April 4, 2015

            If these Muslims are actually discriminating, I’m sure they’re getting backlash from the folks in Michigan that live in their town. But the last time I looked, it wasn’t Muslims that were in charge of state legislatures and governorships in states across America that were working 24/7 as politicians to create laws that would allow citizens in their states to discriminate against whomever they want!!

            The reason the media is not all over this one bakery run by a few Muslims is because it’s the fake Christians that have infiltrated the GOP that through their misguided interpretations of the Bible are creating misguided supposed ‘family values’ nonsense that they’re trying to ram down the throats of every citizen in America as if America has been turned into a Christian-run nation, when our country is inhabited by people from numerous different religions and the GOP has no business trying to bring religion into our laws.

            Nowhere in the New Testament did Jesus ever even suggest to his disciples that they should go forth and get involved in politics and start trying to run governments. All he told them was to go out and preach the Gospel and if people didn’t want to listen; his disciples should simply shake the dust off themselves from that place and leave, and it would be worse for those unbelievers than if they’d never heard the truth. But at no time, did he suggest that his disciples should become politicians and work to establish laws that allowed them to dictate to people in a country how they should be living.

            The sad part is that the GOP has been trying to do that 24/7 for at least the last 6 years, and to be quite honest, even True Christians are getting tired of the fake Christians in the GOP turning people against Christianity with their misguided nonsense!!

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          11. Sand_Cat April 3, 2015

            You’re wasting your time.
            Don’t let the bigots blow your cool.

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          12. Joe T April 3, 2015

            Happy Easter to you and your loved ones Dave….great postings.

            This guy is a Harvard Professor: It is
            90 seconds you won’t regret seeing!

            https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjntXYDPw44

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          13. Dave April 3, 2015

            Joe T, Thank you for posting this video. It’s a good one. I hope you and all of your loved ones have a Blessed Easter.

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      2. Independent1 April 3, 2015

        Why is it only a sin, you don’t know is a sin? Jesus actively preached for about 3 years and had numerous opportunities to condemn gay relationships but never did. Especially when he was pointing out that despite what Moses told the people about divorce, that divorce was no longer accepted and that a married man even looking at another woman was committing adultery (a defined sin) in his heart.

        So why is it you, sin selective sinners, are only focusing on gays and not adulterers?? Why is it you seemingly so pios and self-righteous fake Christians even allowed a clear two-time adulterer named Newt to even stand up on a stage and vie for your vote for president of the U.S. Newt is clearly a much bigger sinner than any gay person ever will be!!! Why are you not condemning Newt??

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        1. paulyz April 3, 2015

          I just knew that people like you would instantly disagree & spin it with assumptions. I am not the one casting judgements, it is you that are judging people that disagree with you. Typical of intolerant, hateful Liberals. Happy Easter.

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          1. Independent1 April 3, 2015

            Typical RWNJ response – when don’t have a truthful response, do your best to discredit the person or group pointing out the error of your ways. For you to state “the law isn’t about discrimination” – is an outright BLATANT LIE!!

            The Indiana legislature created and the Governor signed that law – FOR THE EXPRESS PURPOSE OF ALLOWING COMPANIES WITHIN INDIANA TO DISCRIMINATE AGAINST WHOMEVER THEY WANTED!!

            These bigoted Indiana politicians were clearly trying to follow after the SCOTUS ruling of Hobby Lobby where 5 paid and bought right-wing fake judges, passed a judgement that has allowed Hobby Lobby lobby to use their fake religious beliefs and discriminate against women who work for them. So these bigoted Indiana politicians clearly thought that with their new law, that if a lawsuit arose over a company’s discriminatory practice, the suit would go to SCOTUS and like the paid-for slaves these judges are, they would concoct a similar excuse to their Hobby Lobby and Citizens United rulings and absolve the bigoted company of any wrong doing and allow it to continue its discrimination.

            What all these bigoted Indiana, and now Arkansas politicians weren’t counting on, is the outcry from not only people who may be discriminated against, but also many nonBigoted people in America who see this CLEARLY DISCRIMINATORY LAW, as an affront to everyone’s freedoms – and based on totally misguided Christian interpretations of the bible to boot!!!!

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          2. angelsinca April 5, 2015

            And you don’t discriminate against conservatives? It must be hard being high and mighty without laughing at yourself.

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          3. Independent1 April 5, 2015

            You call pointing out all the non Christian ways that people who support a party that is misleading them to believe they are Christians is discriminating?? So is that what Jesus was doing when he was pointing out to the Pharisees 2000 years ago all the ways they were being hypocrites with respect to following God’s commandments??

            Give me a break!! You clearly have no clue what discrimination means – and it isn’t telling people to their face that they’re living their lives AS A LIE!!!

            I wouldn’t think of refusing to serve someone if I was running a business for any cause other than them being outright gangsters and acting like hoodlums or thieves. But certainly never for anything to do with what they believe which is really none of my business.

            But when I see people like you and many of the other RWNJs on this blog site supporting a party that is comprised of nothing but fake Christians, leading millions of people in America clearly to damnation with their misguided interpretations of the Bible, I’d be remiss in my responsibility as a Christian to not point out to them the clear error in their ways WHICH ARE NUMEROUS!!!!

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          4. Independent1 April 5, 2015

            And if you don’t think Republicans are being led astray – here’s an example of one who is leading her talk show listeners down the wrong pathway with her still using the Old Testament to come up with no longer valid edicts from God even after God said through the writer of the book of Hebrews in Chapter 8 – that when Jesus came he made the Old Testament OBSOLETE and it should soon DISAPPEAR – that was 2000 years ago.

            See this:

            In her radio show, Dr. Laura Schlesinger (a popular conservative radio talk show host in the USA) said that homosexuality is an abomination according to the Bible Leviticus 18:22, and cannot be condoned under any circumstance. The following response is an open letter to Dr. Laura, and was attributed to a James M. Kauffman, Ed. D.

            And here’s just a portion of Dr Kauffman’s letter to Dr. Laura that shows that if we followed all the edicts from Leviticus, our world would be a far different place:

            Dear Dr. Laura:

            Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God’s Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination… end of debate.

            I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some other elements of God’s Laws and how to follow them.

            Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Canadians?

            I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

            I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual unseemliness – Lev. 15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offence.

            When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev. 1:9. The problem is my neighbours. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

            I have a neighbour who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

            A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

            for more of these comparisons, go here:

            http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/03/25/850561/-An-Open-Letter-to-Dr-Laura-Schlesinger?detail=emailclassic

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          5. angelsinca April 5, 2015

            Thanks for all that, but no. I asked whether you discriminate, especially toward conservatives. Just bear with me here as we establish the double standard.

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          6. Independent1 April 5, 2015

            It’s pretty clear to me that you have NO IDEA what discrimination even means. There’s no double standard. Like a good RWNJ your doing what they always do – trying to make someone whose pointing out their flaws that it’s the messenger that’s in the wrong. Nice Try!! No cigar!!

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          7. Independent1 April 5, 2015

            You and your buddies come onto this website, and numerous posters here try and try and try to get you and your ilk to see how today’s Republicans are working to destroy our nation and to rob you blind (assuming you’re not in the upper 20%); and despite all the evidence, just like the Pharisees of Jesus time – you steadfastly refuse to see the truth.

            How far do billionaires in America like the Kochs, Adelsons, Waltons and others have to go in returning slavery to America where everyone is working for money they can’t survive on, for you and your ilk to wake up to what’s going on?? How much more of the income and wealth in America does the top 1-5% have to suck up, leaving you with little or nothing to survive on, before you wake up??

            How many oppressive laws do these fake Christians have to enact – limiting voting, limiting people’s rights, before you and your ilk wake up???

            How far behind the rest of the world, does the GOP’s stalling efforts with respect to keeping America abreast of the rest of the world with respect to infrastructure improvements including high-speed rail, have to leave America as if we’re still in the 20th century?? Before you and your ilk wake up??

            Just how much damage does the GOP have to do?? Was starting an unnecessary war where more than 4,000 soldiers died, not enough?

            Was refusing to let the CIA try to stop an attack on our country resulting in 3,000 Americans dying on 9/11, not enough??

            Was spending like drunken sailors and running our country into the ditch while running up over 15 trillion in debt, not enough?

            Was doing absolutely nothing for 6 years while spending millions of dollars following fake scandals and conspiracy theories, none of which they were able to prove while more than 1/2 a billion dollars was wasted, not enough??

            What is it you people need to see you’re being taken to the cleaners?? Do you really need to see 3/4 of the state of Florida under water before you’ll believe that global warming is real?? Or is the fact that 6 million people along the SE coast of Fla are already almost at the point of not being able to live there because salt water has already polluted the majority of their drinking water because of the rising seas – is that not enough??

            What do you need to see, the GOP allow America to fall into total calamity???

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          8. Independent1 April 5, 2015

            And I know I’m probably boring you, but I feel in the mood to vent because what you and your ilk are allowing the GOP to get away with by constantly voting them back into office, AFFECTS ME AND MY FAMILY TOO!!

            Do you even realize that over the past 20 years while the GOP has had the majority of control of America (Dems have only had control for less than 1 year in the past 20), that the GOP has allowed America to fall far behind the rest of the world in almost any measure?? Be it travel, be it health care, be it life expectancy, be it virtually anything you want to compare, America is lucky to rank in the top 10-15 in any measure.

            Why? Because the GOP has focused for the past 30 years on seeing how much of the middleclass’ and poor’s money, they could siphon into the pockets of the already wealthy, while blocking the moving forward into the 21st century of almost anything: high-speed rail, real health care system improvements, you name it.

            Do you even realize that 2 decades ago, China was like America in the early 1900s, and now it surpasses us in high-speed rail, converting their energy to solar, improving their highway systems and many other ways. And they’re even working now on dramatically reducing the pollution in their country (and as you’ve noticed, taken away most our manufacturing).

            China has advanced so far in high-speed rail, that if America had even closely kept abreast of them, air traffic in the U.S. would have been reduced dramatically; you’d be able to step on a train in downtown Boston and be in L.A, in the same day; or step on a train in NYC and be in Chicago in around 2.5 hours. Why would people want to fly?? And go through all the hasstles??

            You RWNJs just don’t sit back and think of what supporting these GOP losers is costing even YOU!!!

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          9. Independent1 April 5, 2015

            I have a question for you. Maybe you can enlighten me.

            Virtually every time I see conservatives rallying, they’re waving a flag. Yet, they’ve been content with the politicians they vote into office into allowing our country to deteriorate into a quasi 3rd world nation: our rail system is far behind most other similar industrialized nations, roads and bridges across the nation are in terrible disrepair, rampant energy exploration is turning many states such as ND, TX and others into polluted cesspools, government buildings are falling apart, and on and on.

            Is that the way you conservatives keep your homes? You let the roof leak and fall apart and destroy your living space? You let your heating and other systems fall into total disrepair??

            Is that how you live?? If not, why are you allowing our country to become a quasi 3rd world nation??

            Why are you letting the GOP get away with that happening??

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          10. highpckts April 3, 2015

            Intolerant hateful Liberals??? I will give the Republicans this. You are masters at spin and turning everything around and making yourselves look like the injured party with your racism, bigotry and biases! It is absolutely amazing how you can ignore simple truths and go your merry way with no feelings of remorse for all your finger pointing! Kudos!

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          11. Sand_Cat April 3, 2015

            Project away.

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        2. FB Adams April 3, 2015

          Hmm, your slip is showing. Newt is no bigger a sinner than Hitler or anyone else. Each and every sin is the same as anyone else’s. Also, you have judged Jesus incorrectly – He told the woman to go and sin no more.He didn’t just turn and walk away. Funny how liberals always leave that one out. So what is your motive in distorting truth?

          BTW, Scripture does not prohibit anyone from “judging” – it only teaches that by what standard you judge that same standard shall be applied to you. Liberals don’t get it because they have huge logs in their eyes. The judging issue really highlights the hypocrisy in most of us, most especially liberals.

          Have a Blessed Pesach and remember Jeshua HaMassiach suffered and died for you and His resurrection is the ticket for your eternal life. Take it and live; rejected it and die. Really a simple proposition isn’t it?

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          1. highpckts April 3, 2015

            Oh for Heaven’s sake! Liberals certainly don’t have a lock on stupidity! Judging by your post, you are right up there. If you lived with the morals that are inborn, then you wouldn’t need a Bible “story book” to tell you how to act!! If we are supposedly made in God’s own image, then why do you need someone to tell what is moral? You can’t seem to navigate this world on your own so you turn to whatever religion floats your boat! Sad!!

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          2. FB Adams April 3, 2015

            TY. You have perfectly validated my case for liberal judgmentalism.

            Happy Pesach.

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          3. highpckts April 3, 2015

            Whatever! Talking to a wall is so gratifying!!

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          4. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

            Now I know what your problem is. You love walls.

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          5. FB Adams April 6, 2015

            Actually, liberals DO have a lock on stupidity. Liberalism is a disease of the mind that results in the inability of the individual to correctly perceive reality.

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          6. Elliot J. Stamler April 3, 2015

            Oh I just love the last paragraph: if you are not a Christian you will die and presumably go to hell. There goes the majority of the world’s population….Hindus, Moslems, Buddhists, Bahai, Jews, everyone. And “all sins are equal” and Newt Gingrich’s sin is equal to Hitler’s????? You are a perfect example of what gives religion a bad name.

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          7. FB Adams April 6, 2015

            Yes, in G-d’s eyes all sins are of the same import. That is why one needs the rebirth in Jeshua HaMassiach (Jesus Christ). Sadly, most people who encounter that salvation gift reject it and are lost to eternal life.

            Plenty of warning out there for whomever will listen. You?

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          8. Joe T April 6, 2015

            Ghostwriter communique’
            parallel time 13:24
            Input Info – 2000 yr old text

            John 3:16

            For God So Loved

            16″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only
            begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal
            life. 17″For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world,
            but that the world might be saved through Him.…

            John 3:18

            Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does
            not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name
            of God’s one and only Son. John 3:36

            Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever
            rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

            John 6:40

            For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son
            and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the
            last day.”

            John 11:25

            Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life.
            The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

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          9. Dave April 6, 2015

            Matthew 7:13
            Talks about the way to heaven,
            Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction,(Hell where their is smashing of teeth and the lake of fire) and many enter through it.
            John 14:6
            Jesus said I am the way to truth and life, no one comes to the Farther except through me.
            There are many world religions that require one to be religious. Jesus doesn’t want one to be religious’ he wants a relationship with his people. We are separated from God by way of our sins, that is why Jesus went to the cross to take ALL OF OUR SINS upon him, and he paid the price for our sins. He paid what we couldn’t pay, and he had given up his life freely, only asking we turn from our ways and follow him.
            John 3:3
            Jesus answered him, Truly, truly I say to you, unless one is Born Again he cannot see the kingdom of God.
            We as people can’t earn salvation; we can’t be saved by any good works,we are saved by God’s grace when we have faith in his son Jesus Christ. All you have to do is believe that you are a sinner, that Christ died for your sins, and ask for his forgiveness, by asking Jesus into your life to be your Lord and savior.
            The sinners prayer,
            I know I am a sinner, and I ask for your forgiveness Jesus. I believe you died for my sins and roes from the dead. I trust you and will follow you as my Lord and Savior. Guide my life and help me to do your will… Praying for this in Jesus name…Amen.

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          10. Joe T April 6, 2015

            To believe or not to believe is the reason.

            John 3:16

            For God So Loved

            16″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17″For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.…

            John 3:18

            Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. John 3:36

            Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

            John 6:40

            For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

            John 11:25

            Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

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          11. Independent1 April 3, 2015

            Why is it you mealy mouthed RWNJ bigots think you have the right to put words in people’s mouths?? Clearly, when I said they turned and walked away – I was talking about the Pharisees – not Jesus. Why would I have mentioned what Jesus did you clueless bigot???
            And in Leviticus, God clearly said “Thou shalt not judge thy neighbor!!

            And Jesus numerous times said “Do not judge”. And Yes, he never said it was a sin but even Paul on numerous occasionss told Christians that if they were judging THEY WERE CONDEMNING THEMSELVES!!!

            And it wasn’t me that initially brought up the point of judging – I was condemning you FAKE CHRISTIANS for wanting to practice descrimination!! It was your RWNJ friend Dave he claimed I was judging him and posted all those verses in the New Testament about not judging.

            Go pond sand you worthless RWNJ bigot!! And stop putting words into other bloggers posts and claiming they’re posting words that they are not!!!!

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          12. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

            Its pound. If you insist on being rude at least try and spell it right.

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          13. Sand_Cat April 3, 2015

            First of all, the story you cite about the woman is generally considered a later addition to what is probably a forgery in itself (it is at the very best highly dubious the book was written by one of the original disciples as it claims), but the emphasis in the story is on the hypocrisy of those who use religion to judge and condemn others. As for “logs” in liberals’ eyes, you’re just engaging in the usual right-wing practice of projection. Maybe you should check out your own sins. If reading the story helps, maybe you should give it a try, addition or not.
            Finally, your idiotic statement about Gingrich and Hitler shows how dangerously full of crap the whole idea of claiming we’re all hopelessly depraved, and that even those who spend their lives doing good (not that I would make that claim for either of the two individuals in question) are as depraved and deserving of eternal punishment as the worst of the worst.
            It is those who do good that give religion what reputation it has for good, and not the other way around.

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          14. FB Adams April 6, 2015

            All people are depraved until they are reborn in Jeshua HaMassiach (Christ Jesus) – then they are redeemed.

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          15. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

            Well, it would appear that people like you haven’t been reborn, and that you’ve missed the point of the story under discussion big time.All you can do is to twist it to into your political prejudice with some Aramaic (?) thrown in to impress us.

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          16. FB Adams April 7, 2015

            Nope, never interested in impressing anyone but One and even then I can’t do that as it’s already been done for me.

            Only interested in Truth – not what some (wo)man thinks is truth. Tell me San_Cat, why do you harbour such hate toward others who do not buy into the life philosophy you peddle?

            The story “under discussion” as you would have it is THE story of existence. Dressed in common garb most people miss the entire point.

            Anyway, you are blessed at least for a short while – enjoy.

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          17. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

            amusing: you’re the one doing the peddling.
            You still missed the point, and always will, so long as this is a conservative-liberal issue to you.

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      3. highpckts April 3, 2015

        Excuse me??? It’s pure descrimination at it’s best!! If, as you say, most people aren’t concerned about a person’s sexuality, then why do you feel the need for such “laws”??? These”people” as you like to call them are human beings and since we, as fellow human beings, can’t seem to get our acts together as to how to treat fellow human beings, then someone has to step in! NO ONE is forcing you to take part in their sexuality, just as we don’t visit your bedroom every nite to spy on whatever kinky thing you do! Get over yourself, mind your own business and follow the golden rule! Quit trying to foist your perverted beliefs on every human because we have had enough! DON’T even call yourself Christian for all your hate and suspicions! This world has enough problems without people like you delaring war on everyone who doen’t tow your moral line!! In case you need to know, I am white, hetersexual, female who is tired of you being in my bedroom and trying to rule my body!!

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      4. Wayne Thorson April 3, 2015

        Everybody has a right to hate the sin. Everybody has the right to be treated like everybody.

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    2. Michael Ross April 3, 2015

      Pat, like so many other members of the Religious Right, is an absolutist extremist, meaning he not only adheres to an extremist mantra, he is incapable of comprehending the existence of anything that does not involve extremism.

      In this case, Pat is demonstrating that he is incapable of interpreting a world without persecution. Ergo, since Pat and his fellow “Christians” are not viciously persecuting all nonbelievers and forcing them to convert to “Christianity,” he assumes it must stand to reason that Christians are being viciously persecuted.

      It’s the same logic by which Pat and his fellow “Christians” constantly refer to Obama as a tyrant: It’s not because of anything Obama has done — it’s because they can’t imagine any possible way of governing except tyrannically.

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    3. johninPCFL April 4, 2015

      Well, in his defense, 1% rule the country today, so 4% would be an overwhelming majority.

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      1. Wayne Thorson April 4, 2015

        And I would bet you think that 1% is going to destroy this country.

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  7. jakenhyde April 3, 2015

    God took Robert Schuller the other day. One can only hope that Robertson is next on the list. Problem is that both of them have sons who are following in their tax-free millions footsteps.
    Ever notice how many of these multi-millionaire “evangelists” have sons and daughters following their tax-free path? I honestly believe that the IRS(government) needs to redo the tax status of these charlatans.

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    1. idamag April 3, 2015

      Great observation

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  8. Joe T April 3, 2015

    The gays are coming, the gays are coming……..subliminal Freudian palaver.
    They are going to wake up someday from the fog their brain is residing in and think they are at a barbecue…..but the barbecue will be them on the menu…savvy.

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  9. pmbalele April 3, 2015

    Why to normal people in this country continue to listen to Pat Robertson and Graham. These two are known to be racists and bigots. You remember before the election in 2012 Robertson went on retreat with his parishners to pray that Obama lose the elections. Robertson said his god had told him that this Country should be lead by a White male not a racial minority. So he prayed that Mitt Romney win the elections. Robertson and his little god lost. Graham one time said that Whites smartest because they event things; Asians make things invented by Whites better whereas Blacks are good at purchasing things invented by Whites. I took that an insult to me and to all Blacks. Therefore I take these two as crazy people or airheads. But I am surprised people still listen and give them money.

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    1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

      The really amusing thing to me was when Mitt, a Mormon was running. The tenets and doctrines of all Christian religions are different than those of the Mormon faith. In fact Christian religions consider it a cult. That’s in writing.
      One of those TV ministers, Joel something said Mitt was Christian enough. Any other time they would have been discouraging the religious right from supporting Mitt because of his religion.

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      1. Allan Richardson April 3, 2015

        I am neither a Mormon nor a fundamentalist Christian, but I have read the Book of Mormon and it seems to me that, based upon the definition of “Christian” as someone who considers Jesus of Nazareth to be the Christ sent by God to save us from our sins, the LDS is definitely a Christian church. A rather odd one, but still Christian. The Book of Mormon, like some parts of the Bible, makes some statements which cannot literally be reconciled with scientific data, but at least we do know scientifically that the Bible is a collection (and editing) of manuscripts which actually WERE written in ancient times. For the Book of Mormon, all we have are the assertions of a man who had previously been a diviner and spiritualist that ancient engraved plates of gold, silver and brass contained writing in an ancient language no one could translate, but the angel who led him to the plates also gave him a magic pair of glasses which allowed him to translate them into English (and strangely, into the English of the King James period, not the English of his own time), a few of his friends saw the plates, and then an angel took them back into heaven. But I have no quarrel with people who want to live a decent life by the guidance in either book, as long as they do not use either as an excuse to perpetrate harm on others as punishment for not sharing their beliefs … which the Mormons suffered in the beginning of their faith, and which others in the states they dominate now suffer at their hands.

        As for Mitt Romney, I condemn the policies he and other Republicans promote as being immoral by the better tenets of every religion. My problem with him, as I said at the time, is not the Book of Mormon, it is the Book of Mammon.

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        1. Carolyn1520 April 4, 2015

          I don’t personally care what Mormons want to call themselves. My point was the most fundamentalist of Christians who have never considered the Mormons to be Christians were willing to call Romney a Christian so they could convince their flock to vote for him.
          The differences between Mormons and Christians as detailed by religious scholars reflect major opposing ideas in the tenets and doctrines. Joseph Smith called all Christian churches an abomination and didn’t consider himself a Christian. It was only after they wanted to be recognized as mainstream did they focus on the similarities adopted from Christian religions. I personally don’t care either way , however there are also many similarities between Judaism and Christianity and they aren’t Christian either nor do they want to be. Another point Christians consider is when baptized in a Christian religion, one can join another Christian church without being baptized into that particular church, as they have already been baptized Christian.The Mormon church doesn’t recognize baptism from any other churches.
          Yeah, Mitt had many problems but his religion wasn’t one of them.

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          1. Independent1 April 4, 2015

            But as you point out, the willingness of Republicans to embrace a man for president of our country, who is clearly the ‘Poster Boy of Loving Worldly Excess’ – which is in total contradiction to everything Jesus taught and God has said from the beginning HE HATES – clearly demonstrates that today’s Republicans are in NO WAY True Christians.

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          2. idamag April 4, 2015

            I know what the Baptists think about the Mormons. They consider them a cult. However, if a Mormon runs on the Republican ticket, they will have to vote for him or her, unless they are Black. Those Southerners will never forgive the Democrats for Civil Rights.

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    2. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

      Normal people might be in question.

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  10. idamag April 3, 2015

    Sandy Rios, the only protection, we as Americans need right now, is protection from people like you.
    Glenn Beck you are your own proof of some serious mental flaws.
    Michael Leahy, now we not only have the radical right in our bedrooms, but our bathrooms.
    Michele Bachmann, beats Sarah Palin, hands down for title: Queen of Stupid.
    Pat Robertson, I don’t think you have anything to fear from Gays or Straights – there is nothing sexy about you/

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    1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

      🙂 Bravo!

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  11. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

    To be fair, it’s wrong to paint all people of faith with the same brush.

    Those who are the hater and misuse all religious beliefs are the fundamentalists.

    I personally think everyone’s journey to salvation is personal and their own business. I respect it and wouldn’t presume to judge it. That is, until they want to start to imposing it on others and using it as a weapon.

    Here’s a website of an org I’ve been supporting for awhile. They are people of faith who recognize and fight against the many injustices carried out in the name of religion.

    You can see by their campaigns, they are religious activists.

    http://www.faithfulamerica.org/

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    1. jakenhyde April 3, 2015

      The reason “all people of faith” are painted with the same brush is that those people never seem to speak out against these charlatans. Their total silence indicates total agreement.

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      1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

        They are speaking out but those who are making these insane laws aren’t listening to them.

        http://www.faithfulamerica.org/

        People of faith in these forums are speaking out against them. People carrying the picket signs in Indiana are speaking out against them.

        Without the outcry against it, no one would have noticed this law until it went into full brown practice discriminating against people across the board.

        The right would like to present the misconception that no one on the left is devout or attends church. The difference is, the fundamentalists are on the right.

        Martin Luther King, Jr. made this insightful distinction between the private and public domains:

        “I think there is a great difference between the two … I don’t think anybody should have the right to just come in my house that I may privately own …. But now if I turn my house into a store — if I turn it into a department store, if I turn it into a lunch counter, or anything like that — then I have certain obligations to the public beyond my particular whims … If a business is in the public market, then it cannot deny access …. [a business owner] should not have the freedom to choose his customers on the basis of race or religion.”

        http://sojo.net/blogs/2015/04/01/religious-freedom-or-discrimination

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        1. jakenhyde April 3, 2015

          If you’ve paid attention lately, you know that folks who stand up for equality for all citizens….gays included…are branded by many christians as atheists. That, even when people of faith are willing to stand up for equality for all.
          When uber right wing christians start acting like true chrisians, this whole thing will be in the past. But….don’t hold your breath on that one.

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          1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

            It would be hard to miss. 🙂 . It’s always easier to define people as Godless because they don’t have to accept that people who aren’t wouldn’t take their side. I don’t think anyone who is standing up to them cares what they are called. It’s in the best interest of real people of faith to do so. The backlash against religion is due to the rabid religious part of the right.
            I don’t hold out much hope for this generation. The younger generation is much less inclined to buy into it. That I’ve seen in my own family and it gives me hope.Every family has a few mixed nuts.

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          2. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

            OMG are you telling us there are more of you? One of you is enough to unconstipate the whole planet.

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        2. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

          Just how does this law discriminate?

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          1. Carolyn1520 April 3, 2015

            The law as it was written would allow people who claimed it was against their religion to discriminate in employment issues, rental issues, etc across the board. It had far reaching effects beyond cake baking.

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          2. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

            If I don’t like, trust or they make me feel uncomfortable. I won’t hire them, sell to them or associate with them. Is that bigotry, discrimination or human nature. In this country we have a right to peace and the pursuit of happiness. Dealing with people that make me uncomfortable and that I don’t care for violates my rights. Have you ever really had to deal with people who can and would cause you real problems? I have told people to leave my business because they smelled bad. Is that discrimination?

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  12. highpckts April 3, 2015

    To all the supporters of these “Religious Freedom bills” I have this to say. According to religious doctrine, Christ died on the cross today for your sins and as far as I can see it was a waste of a life! You haven’ learned one damn thing nor progressed one tiny bit!!

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    1. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

      It was not a waste of life. It never happened.

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      1. Sand_Cat April 3, 2015

        I have to ruin your day and agree with you.
        Don’t know if you mean he didn’t die or that he didn’t die for our sins (I’d go for the latter), but hey – scary as it may be to both of us – I’m with you on this one!

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        1. hicusdicus April 4, 2015

          What I can’t quite get a handle on is how someone could die for someones sins 2000 years before they were born. What about the people who were almost born like abortions. Where they considered people who’s sins needed to be forgiven or were they never counted to start with? This means that he who forgives sin knew about these untimely deaths and did nothing to stop it. He then had a book written that said do what the book says or else. I am confused.

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          1. dtgraham April 4, 2015

            I may have misunderstood you. So you’re saying that you’re very conservative in your political views, but that conservatism doesn’t necessarily extend to social or religious issues.

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          2. hicusdicus April 4, 2015

            I am conservative in the sense that I don’t like change. It is very tiresome and when I try to adhere to it ,it gives me gas. It would be akin to the hermit named Dave being thrown out of his cave. Did that muddy things up even more? Let me extend to you a happy hard boiled egg day.

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          3. Independent1 April 4, 2015

            Sorry, you are letting yourself become confused because you, like so many in the GOP are very misguided. A fetus is not a baby, nor does it have a soul, until it is out of the womb and takes its first breath. It’s when a fetus takes its first breath that God grants it a soul. So all those aborted fetuses are not considered people!!

            From Genesis 2:7

            And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

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          4. Independent1 April 4, 2015

            When God led the Jews out of Egypt, he made them a promise which he would keep, if they lived by his commandments. Well, clearly that never happened. The people never fully complied with what God asked of them. And so over the hundreds of years from the time the left Egypt until God put Jesus on the earth, God’s people had racked up quite a number of sins in failing to live up to the first covenant God had made with them (which we know as the Old Testament).

            So in order for God to be able to forgive the Jews for all those racked up sins, so they could become worthy of a new covenant that God wanted to make with them through Jesus, a sacrifice needed to be made by the shedding of blood. Under the Old Testament that sacrifice was usually the blood of a calf or goat.

            But the Jews had proven that sacrificing calves and

            and goats never did really bring about the changes in them that God was looking for, so He provided the the only sacrifice that was worthy enough to be able to cover all the sins that had been built up over the years – and that was the willingness of Jesus to be that sacrifice.

            And so it was Jesus blood 2,000 years ago that made it possible for the apostles to work at trying to convert Jews to Christianity because Jesus had been willing to die to make it possible for God to forgive the Jews for their built up sin. And it’s his willingness to have died for the forgiveness of sins, for each person who comes to God today to be forgiven of the sins they’ve committed before asking for that forgiveness.

            God does not forgive the sins of every person who is born and becomes a living soul; only those who seek his forgiveness and become Christians. And then he only forgives sins that are not committed intentionally. It’s hard for God to forgive sins even for devout Christians if the sins are committed knowingly and intentionally. As he writer of Hebrews says –

            Hebrews 10:26

            For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins.

            So despite what many would like to believe, confessing sins each week and then going out and knowingly sinning more is not going to get their sins forgiven.

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          5. Joe T April 4, 2015

            WOW……………agreed

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          6. InsideEye April 4, 2015

            Nice synopsis, however where is it written that sins are forgiven only if not intentional, are not all sins intentional, therefore all sins are forgiven or none can be forgiven

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          7. Independent1 April 4, 2015

            Where is it written? In Hebrews 10:26. And are all sins intentional? No. God knows were not perfect. We have a human side, which the Bible often refers to as the flesh, and a spiritual side (soul) which is what God is wanting us to return to Heaven.

            The human side is what is always tempted to go in for worldly, ungodly things. Setting up a constant battle within us, between our human side which is fighting to get involved with ungodly things and our spiritual side, that tries to move us into doing the things God would approve of. And then there’s Satan who knows our weaknesses, and who gets in the middle and is always putting thoughts in our minds that encourage us to go for doing the ungodly things. God understands all that and will forgive us for times when, because we’re human, we’ll have weak moments and let Satan and the ungodly temptations win out. Even King David, as much as he depended on God’s help and guidance, had times when the human guided him astray.

            What I think Hebrews 10:26 is talking about, is when we intentionally intend to redo something that we may have done in a weak moment and had asked forgiveness for; or if we deliberately plan in our mind to do something in the first place, which we know in our heart is something God had said is sinful.

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          8. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

            I call what you describe in your last para “pre-meditated repentence.” Seems like it’s a lot worse than the sin itself.

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          9. Independent1 April 7, 2015

            I agree – I would think God would see premeditated sin as the worst kind of sin.

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          10. hicusdicus April 5, 2015

            So if you unintentionally commit an adulterous act it is not a sin? I like that concept. I guess this makes Bill eligible for the pearly gates? I thought Moses led the Jews out of the land of pyramids. Moses was a cult leader with a long beard, right?

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          11. InsideEye April 5, 2015

            I think the heat got to Moses and too many matzahs. He realized that he could have made a mistake did not want to cross the river to the ” Promised Land” . The Jews would have been really pissed when they find out that Mossi should have made a right turn head into Oil Lands of The Saudi. que sera, that could have been. Moses could have a secret deal with Ramses to get rid of these pesty slaves. These ungratefuls Core ingrate , during their exodus, even wanted to go back to Egypt because they could not take it anymore. Too many princes andd princesses in the group. Ver is lung island.

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          12. hicusdicus April 5, 2015

            If the Jews were the chosen people why did god have Moses lead them away from the land of black gold? It looks like god chose the Jews to so he would have somebody to take a dump on when ever he got irritated. God being irrited seems like an on going thing.

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          13. InsideEye April 5, 2015

            Tus true, they have had their days of problems, they tend to complain a lot and rightly so with an easily irritated deity It is best to be catholic they never complain. Even Jesus says turn the other cheek and if they hit you there then kill the bastard. He never said do not hit back…. Like the mafia , sort of.

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          14. hicusdicus April 4, 2015

            My goodness I did not know that. That is most enlightening. That saying, go and sin no more. seems like an extremely boring way to live ones life. I have contemplated getting a license to pass the collection plate but spending a life time of repeating fabrications conjured up for supplying me with money is not my thing. I will be content with just plain ole sinning.

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          15. Independent1 April 4, 2015

            I always knew you had a big ‘S’ written on you’re chest. An ‘S’ for ‘Satan’ that is.

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          16. hicusdicus April 5, 2015

            Satan? Do you also believe in Bat man and Wonder woman??? You should try to keep your comments like mine. Short moronic and meaningless instead of boringly long and pointless.. Have a happy hard boiled chicken embryo day and eat some coco beans disguised as a bunny rabbit. Please explain the connection of rising from the dead with colorful eggs and candy. Maybe a snikit of credibility would help me see the light.

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          17. Joe T April 6, 2015

            Ghostwriter communique’
            parallel time 23:56
            Input Info Into the Light

            To believe or not to believe is the reason.

            John 3:16

            For God So Loved

            16″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17″For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.…

            John 3:18

            Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. John 3:36

            Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

            John 6:40

            For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

            John 11:25

            Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

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          18. hicusdicus April 7, 2015

            I respect your right to believe in god but I don’t respect you preaching your beliefs at me. I consider true Christianity to be the best guide lines to living a stable life if one needs that sort of thing.I don’t it is not in my genetics.

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          19. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

            Try Matthew 25, 31-46; more relevant in this case.
            Luke 10, 25-37
            Matthew 7, 21-23, another nice comment.

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          20. highpckts April 4, 2015

            I agree on the “book”. It is a book of stories to scare the Hell out of believers so they will toe the line! Organized religions can only survive if it instills fear of wrongdoing into their followers! The Bible was written some 50 years after Christ’s death and we all know how “stories” get totally changed from telling to telling! I feel sorry for people that need fear to be a moral person. I do believe in a higher power, call it what you want, God, Jehovah, Allah, etc., but I don’t believe in a vengeful “God” sitting up there doling out death and Hell fire to non believers! Organized religion is nothing more than a means of making money! After all, the Vatican is one of the wealthiest city states in the world!

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          21. idamag April 4, 2015

            When a bunch of us were having dinner, we used to play a game called, “gossip.” One person would whisper something in the ear of the person to his left and he in turn would pass it on around the table. It was interesting to hear what the last person heard.

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          22. hicusdicus April 4, 2015

            You mean at the soup kitchen shelter? I can imagine the stories that flourished at that grand event.

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          23. hicusdicus April 4, 2015

            Well what do we have hear? Little miss pockets is in some kind of agreement with me. There goes your soul. Lost is your chance to gaze upon the loving god of retribution, punishment and creator of the collection plate. You will be forsaken to an eternity of reading comments on National Memo. I will do my best to keep you full of gas from reading my idiotic nonsensical literary master pieces . May you have a happy chocolate Easter bunny and hard boiled egg day.

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          24. highpckts April 4, 2015

            Back at ya Hi!!!

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          25. Dominick Vila April 5, 2015

            The New Testament was, indeed, written long after the death of Christ and it does include stories that are inaccurate and do not reflect the teaching of Jesus, and that are often designed to convert Pagans by introducing concepts embraced by them. Most importantly, it was written at a time when scientific evidence was lacking, and anything that could not be explained was attributed to mythical intervention.
            The most important objective of organized religion is to take advantage of our fears to control the masses and benefit from our ignorance.

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        2. Joe T April 4, 2015

          R U an atheist?

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          1. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

            Does it matter? Yes. Are you a Christian or a “Christian”?

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    2. Joe T April 4, 2015

      WOW……………agreed……………

      Reply
  13. ridemybroom April 3, 2015

    at the guise of not sounding ignorant or stupid…. I have come to the point of realization and would hope such a killing of so called Christians would happen in this country…this would of course be the Christians in power and their so called christian leaders…the ones that promotes death and destruction to others just because they are different than them…the ones that go against the very words of Jesus…you know who im talking about …these evil people need to go….they are blasphenous and every time they open their mouth to speak….hate comes from it and they bring forth more hate and destruction against anyone who votes differently or for that matter that disagrees with them,,,…they would rather discriminate against anyone different than they are and frankly its time to disciminate back……people should be at the free will to live their lives anyway they would like and never be judged for what they and who they are….there is only one judge and im sorry to say haters you are not the one….so go and teach your hate messages elsewhere…and to say you are of God and you are before God is a mistake and you will have to live for it or die for it…you make the choice…you make this poster ashamed of you and makes me ashamed to be around my own people…so instead of sounding ignorant maybe such a group will arise and maybe just maybe you will be ask the question are you a hater or are you not a hater….and if you are …you can guess the outcome……

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    1. Sand_Cat April 3, 2015

      It would likely be one group of Christians massacring others in the name of brotherly love, but mass killing is unlikely to have good results for anyone.

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  14. Elliot J. Stamler April 3, 2015

    This is not the first time that crazy Pat has linked oral sex which is practiced by almost 99% of heterosexual couples, with bestiality. Years ago one of his demented female followers wrote him (!!??) asking if it was sinless and Godly to have oral sex with her husband who wanted to have this possible “perversion” with her..The Rev. Pat said she should pray about it and that while he himself could not advise her what to do in her marriage she should always behave in a “Godly” fashion sexually. Of course he also then pitched her for the most important message of all: send me money.
    DO THESE PEOPLE EVER HAVE REAL, HOT, NORMAL ORGASMIC ADULT SEX???????

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    1. hicusdicus April 3, 2015

      Only if a lot of hundred dollar bills are involved .

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      1. Faraday_Cat April 3, 2015

        So in other words, no. (sex involving a lot of hundred dollar bills is not ‘exactly’ normal, is it?)

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        1. hicusdicus April 4, 2015

          Sex always involves money. Wedding rings, houses, mouths to feed, lawyers,divorce. Antibiotics. Lets not forget porn fee’s, titty bars and zoomy cars. Now days a hundred dollar bill will barely buy you a case of herpes.

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    2. idamag April 4, 2015

      People having sex, pray during, don’t they? “Oh, God, I’m coming, I’m coming.” Should be a hymn made about it.

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  15. Todd Jimmo April 3, 2015

    “The group getting the most attention now just happen to be Christians, a notoriously persecuted minority in this country”? What happened after the 79% average in 2007? Or are you just talking about the crazies that think their brand of Christianity is the only true form?

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  16. Joe T April 3, 2015

    This guy is a Harvard Professor: It is
    90 seconds you won’t regret seeing!

    https://www.youtube.com/embed/YjntXYDPw44

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    1. Sand_Cat April 3, 2015

      Interesting opinion, but in my opinion a flawed one.
      I would also say that most of those visible in the media promoting religion are enough to scare rational and fair-minded people away.
      Reinhold Neibuhr said that religion is a good thing for good people and a bad thing for bad people, and I think he’s right: what reputation religion has for good is the result of good people rather than the other way around: the eagerness of some to judge and punish others in its name shows the other side.
      Religious freedom is a great idea, and I think few would dispute it after thinking it over, and it is part of the reason there are so many churches in the US.
      I’m happy if it makes people more inclined to obey the law, though I doubt that reliable statistics exist compared to atheists, and looking around, I would say that whatever potential religion may have for good, that potential is drastically under-effective.

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    2. Ather April 4, 2015

      Yeah, right. I never went to church, synagogue, etc. I do not worry about answering to a higher authority who can go screw himself for all I care. I choose to obey the laws because I was taught through many different sources that was the right thing to do. That I had no right to hurt others to benefit myself.

      Who will teach the next gen without religion? We will. We’ll all teach our kids, our students, etc right from wrong. When it’s all you ever hear, you will believe and obey. We will not need to sue fear to control them, like certain religions do with hell. That is propaganda. The people obey not out of free will, but out of forced fear. They’re told obey and burn.

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      1. Joe T April 4, 2015

        Ghostwriter communique’
        parallel time 08:22
        Input Info
        Sources of Right Demeanor for people.

        Ather, the diverse sources that you cite that you followed originates from religion guidance from some 2000 years ago. Said religious doctrine exists steadfastly in our legal system today; e.g. Supreme Court Bldg has Ten Commandments displayed, sans bias.

        Unquestioned copies of God’s 10 Commandments via Moses for the human race, sans bias. (Google same)

        Moses and/or the 10 Commandments appear three times in the architectural embellishment of the Supreme Court building. Two of these representations depict Moses as simply one of several important lawgivers; these representations tend to disprove the idea that the 10 Commandments have some special relationship to American law. The third instance has the Commandments as one of two artistic adornments on a set of doors.

        Justice the Guardian of Liberty. This sculpture is a frieze located above the East (back) entrance to the Supreme Court building. Moses (holding blank tablets) is depicted as one of trio of three Eastern law givers (Confucius, Solon, and Moses). The trio is surrounded by a variety of allegorical figures representing legal themes. The artist, Herman MacNeil, described his intentions in creating the sculpture as follows:

        Law as an element of civilization was normally and naturally derived or inherited in this country from former civilizations. The “Eastern Pediment” of the Supreme Court Building suggests therefore the treatment of such fundamental laws and precepts as are derived from the East. Moses, Confucius and Solon are chosen as representing three great civilizations and form the central group of this Pediment (Descriptions of the Friezes in the Courtroom of the Supreme Court of the United States and of the East and West Pediments of the Building Exterior, p. 9).

        Nothing in MacNeil’s description, in other words, suggests any special connection between American law and the 10 Commandments. Moses is simply one of three important lawgivers from the East.

        Best regards, Joe T

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      2. Jim April 5, 2015

        Many will obey But many won’t that’s the way it’s always been, I hope there is a hell because so many people deserve to go there.

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        1. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

          Likely you’ll be leading the host.

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    3. texastea April 11, 2015

      This is more than rediculous. You don’t need religion to be nice or honest. You can learn this from anyone in your family or neighborhood. I’ve been going to Japan on business every year for almost 25 years. Japan has one of the lowest crime rates in the world, they are super nice and polite, and honest, but they have no religion. They to not go to temples or shrines every week etc (only for funerals and weddings). They are just brought up to be nice. And they are. Also, I’ve been to China. Most Chinese are also quite nice to deal with, and they have no religion, being officially atheist. ISIS has lots of religion, but they are not very nice, at least in my book.

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      1. Joe T April 11, 2015

        texastea……………Atheist portend.they have no soul.(?) …Japanese do not believe in a God (?) Chinese are atheist (?) Islam is a pseudo type religion via Satan as a protagonist against Christianity.

        Think out of the box………

        To believe or not to believe is the reason.

        John 3:16

        For God So Loved

        16″For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. 17″For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.…

        John 3:18

        Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. John 3:36

        Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God’s wrath remains on them.

        John 6:40

        For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

        John 11:25

        Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

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        1. texastea April 11, 2015

          Japan had Christians. For historical reasons, the base of Christianity in Japan was Nagasaki. Until August 1945. Being Christian did nothing to save their souls. And Christianity has never recovered.

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        2. texastea April 12, 2015

          And this relates to what exactly? They are Buddhist or Confucian. Their values do not come from religion. Do know the view that early Christianity was formed under the influence of Buddhism?

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  17. ericlipps April 3, 2015

    Pat Robertson is, of course, the same flaming loony who claimed to have turned the path of 1985’s Hurricane Gloria away from his home state of Virginia by the power of prayer, regularly conducted long-range “healings” of people identified only by thir first names and home cities and, along with the late Jerry Falwell, blamed liberals, gays and feminists for Sept. 11. Who cares what nutbar Pat thinks?

    I remember his 1988 presidential run. I had the perfect bumper sticker for his campaign: VOTE ROBERTSON IN ’88: HE’LL BRING AMERICA TO ITS KNEES.

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  18. Ather April 4, 2015

    Straights do oral sex, anal sex, beastiality, polygamy, etc. Straights have married pillows, video game characters, their pets. One straight lady married the Eiffel Tower. All while gays don’t have equal rights.

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    1. idamag April 4, 2015

      Case in point – FLDS, where men raise daughters for other men. Mothers send their twelve-year-old girls to be bedded by 47 year old men.

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      1. Jim April 8, 2015

        Not in the u.s. or by law abiding citizens.

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  19. Jim April 4, 2015

    I hate all this normalizing of gay relationship activity, keep that sick carp of tv ,no gay marriage and find a cure.

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    1. gmccpa April 4, 2015

      Instead of watching that ‘sick carp’, maybe you can just tuna your TV to another channel.

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      1. Jim April 4, 2015

        There inserting there life style into our show’s my show’s I don’t want to see it, that is my business.

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        1. Mikey7a April 4, 2015

          I almost never address anyone’s grammar, but Jim, can you at least learn the difference between there, their, and they’re before you attempt to make your utterly insane comments about..oh…anything? Thanks!

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          1. Jim April 4, 2015

            Ok sorry! for the minor spelling errors but not for the truth.

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          2. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

            Where was the truth? I didn’t see any in your posts, just bigoted opinion.

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          3. Jim April 8, 2015

            It’s all truth!

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        2. Then you need to stop watching television.

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          1. Jim April 4, 2015

            That’s ridiculous! you mean retreat, I’ll have to do that every time, give up what I like for them, no!

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          2. I’m 99% sure you’re trolling here. Just in case you’re serious, you need to be aware that “the gays” have been fairly deeply inserted in the entertainment industry as long as there has been an entertainment industry. You’re fooling yourself if you believe otherwise.

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          3. Jim April 5, 2015

            I’ve never saw any men or woman kissing each other or more until the last few yrs. the gay people were in the closet.

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          4. So it’s OK if they’re there, you just don’t want to know about it? That’s willful ignorance.

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          5. Jim April 5, 2015

            ignorance is bliss some times, but it’s getting harder to miss them, another thing have you saw that show about some kind of drag queen contest? DISTURBING!

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          6. Since you just outed yourself as watching the channel about and for gay people, now I know you are just trolling. But thanks for the fun.

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          7. Jim April 5, 2015

            I only saw a little before turning the channel in disgust.

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          8. Paul Bass April 7, 2015

            yea, right. So you cured your problem by changing the channel?

            Gee why didn’t you think of this before you started watching the “gay” channel?

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          9. Jim April 8, 2015

            1The isn’t any gay channel, 2 he’ll yes I changed the channel that stuff is twisted, 3 you have to see a little to know what it is.

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          10. texastea April 11, 2015

            No gay channel? But actually there is. I guess it is just not carried by your cable company. PS Don’t flame me, I’m not gay.

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          11. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

            If ignorance is bliss, why aren’t more people happy? (stolen from a bumper sticker, but absolutely applicable to you)

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        3. chris968 April 4, 2015

          I’ll insert something into ya

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        4. gmccpa April 5, 2015

          They are not YOUR shows. Its that simple. They belong to the people who spend the time, money and effort to create and produce them. Its their choice to include what they want. So again, its not your business. If you do not want to see it or do not like the show because of its content….don’t watch. If you would like to create a show, you too are free to do so. You may include or exclude what you wish. Then you can say ‘my shows.

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          1. Jim April 5, 2015

            If I like to watch it I’ll call it my show, so far there’s only a little gay crap some times in 1 or 2.

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        5. Joseph April 10, 2015

          And the solution is do not watch or get over it. Not getting you way or being 100% satisfied with your complete expereince is your responsibility not anyone else. I suggest you see a good counselor. People as unhappy and intolerant as you end up committing acts of violence. I’ll tell you what mjakes me carzy, republicans. Man they are like roaches – into everything and messing with everyone.

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          1. Jim April 10, 2015

            I will continue watching my show shows untell they get bad, be discusted when gays are intamit and complain here because that’s what we do here, give our appion.

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    2. idamag April 4, 2015

      Watch the Kardashians, instead. or all the infomericals.

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    3. idamag April 4, 2015

      Get your nose out of other peoples’ crotches.

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      1. Jim April 4, 2015

        There life style is getting in my face.

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        1. fortunev April 4, 2015

          It’s “their” not “there” and if your face is too close to their lifestyle you might want to close your mouth or get someting stuck into it. Perhaps that is the reason you are so close.

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        2. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

          Maybe you should stop sticking your FACE into other people’s business.

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        3. idamag April 7, 2015

          Obviously, you are not a well educated person. They’re means they are. There refers to a place such as over there. Their is possessive. And, if you did not have titillating nose in their crotches, you would not be paying any attention to their lifestyle. I am sure they aren’t in your bedroom. You bigot.

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          1. Jim April 8, 2015

            Well excuse me! if I don’t like seeing men kissing each other Or some acting feminine,

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        4. Joseph April 10, 2015

          Move your face. Or figure out a way to stop obsessing oaver the behavior of other people. I, for example, never gave a thought about your proclivities until you started obsessing about what other people do with their dangly bits. But, you know, I’m beginning to wonder if you are not a bit curious and perhaps interested in this alternative. Just grab the door knob and open the closet.

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    4. Mikey7a April 4, 2015

      Jim, I’ll pray for you tonight. You seem awfully young, to be filled with so much hatred. I was raised in a Pentecostal Evangelist Church. We were taught to LOVE everyone, and hate NO ONE. You are letting these Politicians who use Christianity as a weapon, distort the truth. Jesus loves all of us, even those who have yet to accept him, even those who might never accept him, into their hearts! It’s o.k. for you to disagree with the LGBT community. It’s never o.k. for us, to ever hate anyone in The name of Jesus Christ.

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      1. Jim April 4, 2015

        I didn’t say I hate them & I don’t, I hate seeing them pushing there life style into our lives my show’s forcing businesses to go against there religious beliefs, Politicians are defending there religion as they believe it, it’s disturbing to see two men kissing, I disagree with the LGBT community actions.

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        1. Wait wait wait…you’re concerned that they’re (That’s the correct form of the word you were trying for there, friend.) forcing into your shows? You mean like TV and theater? FOR SHAME. We have managed to keep the gays just CLEAR out of the entertainment industry for the whole history of human kind!!!

          Oh, wait, maybe I’m remembering that wrong…

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          1. Jim April 4, 2015

            what’s your point?

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          2. Sand_Cat April 7, 2015

            That you don’t know what you’re talking about, and you’re the one bringing “force” into the discussion.

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          3. Jim April 8, 2015

            That’s ridiculous!

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          4. idamag April 7, 2015

            That your protests are so overboard and you are so obsessed with Gays, that you are afraid of your own sexuality. Try reading actual studies. BYW. I am not Gay and what they do or don’t do does not bother me. Get your nose out of their crotches and myob.

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          5. texastea April 12, 2015

            Jim, I know you may want to say that pointing out grammar mistakes is not an argument, but you should polish your English skills. Otherwise, it will be easy for liberals to say that your type of opinion is just the opinion of the uneducated unthinking right. Study Patrick Buchanan. He is the best model. He is articulate and makes intelligent arguments for conservative values.

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        2. chris968 April 4, 2015

          Here’s an idea, stop forcing YOUR beliefs and lifestyle into MY life. Everywhere I look there are straight couples holding hands, kissing, they’re all over the media, on TV, in movies, it’s disgusting!! I don’t want to see that sort of stuff! It must be really hard for you to deal with having to see a community of second class citizens start to be granted equal rights which should have been given to them in the first place via the Constitution. Nobody is forcing businesses to go out of business but the business owners themselves and their hateful bigotry. You n ever see gay businesses turning away people who are different than them because we know what it feels like to be discriminated against. Sorry you think I am intolerant of me to not tolerate your intolerance.

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          1. Jim April 4, 2015

            That’s the right way the way it’s always been, real mature your just reversing what I said & I don’t think you believe that part, did you read about a catering biz that refused to bake a wedding cake for a gay couple & I’ve herd of 1 or 2 more biz because they didn’t serve gays, those people didn’t now there being punished. we aren’t talking about black people, I know it’s discrimination this issue is a double edged sword,I don’t think it was so much bigotry as a religious choice, there being punished for something they believe god is against, my reason is ethical, I think this could open the door to much worse cases.

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          2. chris968 April 4, 2015

            Gay people have existed since time started. It is not a choice, we are born this way. Just because there is slowly starting to be more acceptance of the LGBT community doesn’t mean it’s getting “shoved” in your face. Yes I heard about the catering business and there was a flower shop who refused to serve a gay couple as well. What’s the difference between refusing to serve a black person or a gay person? They can use the same excuse that “their god told them so”. Sorry to break it to you but this isn’t a Christian nation and the bible-thumpers don’t rule the world. Fine, it’s a religious choice. But a bigoted religious choice. Nowhere in the bible does it say god hates gays, or gays are sinners. That is a man-made decision and man-made interpretation that is incorrect. You don’t see Muslims or Jews behaving like this, it’s only Christians which tells you that it’s not a religious thing, because to be honest Islam is much more against gays than Christianity supposedly is. Maybe instead of discriminating against people, they should realize that it is their job as a business to provide service to whoever enters their store. Don’t they want to make money? Some of these places like Memories Pizza in Indiana are fucking PROUD to be discriminating. That’s fucked up. They bragged about not serving gays and look what it got them, they had to close. And then a bunch of idiots donated nearly $800,000 to them. Want to be a real Christian, donate that money to a food pantry.

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          3. Jim April 5, 2015

            I don’t think its a choice,that your born that way but that doesn’t mean gays aren’t sick in some way like a chemical in balance, it is when it’s on my tv shows, there’s a big differ. gay is wrong & god tells christ. in bible, but I’m not a christ. but it’s sick & disturbing to me, discrim.against blacks whole different matter most are straight, I’m only saying no gay marriage,not on tv/movies, no adopting kids, not slavery,exile or anything severe no! biz owners could use same excuse if they were lying,you cant find an true excuse to support discrim. against others like blacks,this started out a christian nation & the majority mite still be here, it’s my choice not a christ. I didn’t say god hates gays I don’t believe he does,man rules the world so if the repub. could stop gay marriage I’d support that, but I don’t think they can its states making the choices, Biz bragging is wrong, we can’t be sure what the boss or employee real m.o. was for sure they sound like a-holes, but everyone can chose on personal ethical grounds like me, I would donate $ when I can.

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  20. Jim April 5, 2015

    I may have to vote for a republican for the first time so they can try to stem the gay agenda, but I don’t like some other things they will do, Dam! There’s no good chioce.

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  21. Joseph April 11, 2015

    OH, good1 A parade!

    Reply

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