By Henry Decker

Poll: Obama Claims Lead Among Small Business Owners

September 19, 2012 3:24 pm Category: Memo Pad 321 Comments A+ / A-
Poll: Obama Claims Lead Among Small Business Owners

A new poll from the George Washington University School of Political Management and Thumbtack.com suggests that one of Mitt Romney’s central messages is falling flat with its target audience.

According to the poll, small business owners now favor President Barack Obama over Romney by a 47 to 39 percent margin. Furthermore, when asked “independent of who you are voting for, which candidate do you believe is more supportive of small business?”, 39 percent picked President Obama, while just 32 percent sided with Romney. 28 percent were not sure.

Among the 6,000 small business owners polled, 40 percent named the economy and job creation as the most important issue in their choice of a president — a major red flag for Romney, who is unlikely to be elected unless he decisively wins among economically motivated voters.

Romney and the Republican party spent weeks trying to attract small business owners by hammering President Obama on his tax plan, health care reform, and his out of context “you didn’t build that” remark, but this poll suggests that it may have been a wasted effort. Small business owners are especially unresponsive to Romney’s argument that taxes will harm “job creators”; only 6 percent listed taxes as their most important issue.

Similarly, Romney’s repeated promises to repeal the Affordable Care Act are not resonating with small business owners. 38 percent of voters neither agreed nor disagreed with the statement “President Obama’s health care policy helps my business,” and among independents that number jumps to 44 percent. So, while Obamacare is still not wildly popular among small business owners, it seems unlikely to do much harm to the President.

As The Washington Post points out, these results are dramatically different from a similar poll released by Mantra last month, which showed Romney with a massive lead among small business owners.

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  • http://profile.yahoo.com/36HUZ6WC5A4WMSCA2YP4DQSVVY Marilyn Kietzman

    and the truth shall be known!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/36HUZ6WC5A4WMSCA2YP4DQSVVY Marilyn Kietzman

    and the truth shall be known!

    • lana ward

      The truth is known- Under Obama 23 MILLION Americans are unemployed, thats why so many are on welfare. At Bain Capital Romney created THOUSANDS of jobs–He is a GREAT business man. America needs him NOW! We are going off a cliff with Obama–he never even had a job until 3 years ago

      • oldtack

        From your profile – I know you are a devotee of Fox and Limbaugh and several other radical right wing organizations so –

        Speaking to all sensible people on this forum just consider the source and ignore this ignorant fool. Don’t waste your time trying to reason with IT.

        • lana ward

          Your party is the one that kicked God out–he’s watching

          • oldtack

            Lana Ward

            My Party kicked GOD out? What is my Party? Are you clairvoyant? Am I Tea Party? Old time Republican? Democrat? Libertarian? Communist? – which one am I?
            Now that you have fired this GOD salvo how about enlightening all on this forum how all parties mentioned kicked GOD out. Did we kick Allah out? Did we kick Moroni and Nephi out? How about Buddah and Zoroaster?

            Have you ever opened a Holy Bible? Do you know the proper address when referring to JEHOVAH GOD? Apparently not.

            I look forward to your reply.

          • lana ward

            If your a dem, your party has kicked God out of everything, even at your convention. The “nays” won but he was put back in anyway–then the nays booed. What a pathetical sight

          • Edsanjuan

            lana: I noticed that when you said that “…. your party has kicked God out of everything, even at your convention. The “nays” won but he was put back in anyway–then the nays booed. What a pathetical sight.”, oldtack had NO response …. they are ALL so pathetic !!

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/47UD7UZ7UQ5IK3EO3BBZAS63IM Eduardo

            lana: STILL (9/22/12) NO RESPONSE from any of the pathetic useful IDIOTs about what you said to the effect that: “… even at your convention. The “nays” won but he was put back in anyway–then the nays booed. What a pathetical sight.”
            No RESPONSE YET !!
            See? The rats just scramble for cover when confronted with something called “facts” and something called “reason” ….
            Stupid idiots, get a life !!

        • Edsanjuan

          oldtack: When you say “Speaking to all sensible people on this forum just consider the source and ignore this ignorant fool.” , WHO do you mean “all sensible people on this forum”?? You MUST mean lana, ObozoMustGo, montanabill, carsrus, Bob Williams and a few others, because the rest are anything but sensible …

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_PYK7PJHGGUAV6ZUAPBGJFENR4Q TammieO

    This should come as no shock – small business owners are not multi-millionaires so they are in the 47% that Romney doesn’t care about and won’t work for.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/7U4ELH2CYXNTM4ILKJJFCMB74E George

      Romney’s idea of a “small business” is one in which the owners make $1 million or more and employ more than 50 people. Those may still be classified as “small businesses”, but the vast majority of small business owners don’t even clear $100,000 after expenses. Romney doesn’t even know they exist.

      • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

        Here One Those People Rick Santorum Was Talking About When He Said ” We Will Never Have The SMART People On Our Side” You Know They Are A Teabagging GOP Brain Dead Dummy Cause Romney NEVER Create Jobs For American All The Jobs Created By Romney Are In China, Korea And India!! Romney Is A Low Life Selfish Thug Who Don’t Give A Damn About Nobody But Him Self!! Yes Rick Is Never Lied , Smart People Know The Truth That’s Why They Will Never Be On Romney Side!!

        • Dianes4babies

          Great one, Fern!

          • Edsanjuan

            Dianes4babies: Your “Great one, Fern!” confirms that your brain is the size of a pea, ….. because Fernie’s “brain” is even smaller ….

          • http://www.facebook.com/darrell.shaffersr Darrell Shaffer Sr

            Poor Ed don’t worry. Mitt will make sure your job is kept, and the only problem ie that it will be in China and Lee Wung will have it.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/47UD7UZ7UQ5IK3EO3BBZAS63IM Eduardo

            Darrell: WOW ! ANOTHER pea-sized brain !!
            With Fernie girl and Dianes4babies that makes 3 of you !!

      • http://www.facebook.com/lawofficesofgeorgettemiller LawofficesofGeorgette Miller A

        AMEN…I have had my own business since 2008. I have 7 employees and it will be a GREAT day when I clear 100,000 after expenses.

    • lana ward

      At Bain Capital Romney took a large number of FAILING companies and turned them around creating THOUSANDS of jobs. Does that sound like someone who doesn’t care? Obama has made us lose 23 MILLION jobs thats why so many are on welfare. No jobs is killing our country. Romney wants Americans back to work, and he has a GREAT record of knowing how to create jobs. Obama doesn’t have a clue

      • William Deutschlander

        My Dear Iana Ward, where have you been the last 4.5 years, perhaps in an induced coma.
        The ECONOMIC FAILURE resulting in horrible UNEMPLOYMENT were CAUSED by THE MALFASANCE and LACK OF FIDUCIARY DUTY of the Republican Bush Administration.
        The Obama Administration HALTED the REPUBLICAN GREAT RECESSION and HAS TURNED THE ECONOMY ON A PATH OF RECOVERY adding 4.5 million new employment opportunities. You owe the Obama Administration a GREAT BIG THANK YOU.
        Romney does not know how to create jobs, his specialty is in locating businesses that have considerable assetts, then borrowing millions of dollars against those assetts, then charging outlandish, quasi legal fees for so called management consulting. These multi million dollar fees are then converted to personal wealth of the Bain Capital partners.
        The business that they placed in outlandish debt now can not make repayment of that debt and files for bankruptcy, leaving those who loaned the capital out their money, leaving the government (taxpayers) responsible for the pension obligations to employees, leaving the employees just plain shit out of luck!

        • lana ward

          The crash wasn’t Bush’s fault. The dems in congress said Fannie and Freddie were doing fine. They about forced banks to give loans to people that couldn’t pay it back. Barney Frank, Maxine waters, Chris Dodd and others are to blame not Bush. Even if he was, Obama has made our situation 100 times worse, we are about to go to abiss. Obama is destroying our capitalism. He is letting our debt(over16 trillion) reach the point where America must default, then the dollar will no longer be used as the world’s reserve currency, and we will be reduced to economic chaos that will lead to riots and violence

          • Consideration1

            Your thinking is way off, I am not sure that there is any help for U.

          • http://www.facebook.com/john.karpfinger John Karpfinger

            Put the blame where it belongs in the lap of the party of “NO”!!!

          • lana ward

            The party of “NO GOD”?

          • oldtack

            If you want to refer to YOUR Party as the Party of No GOD that’s OK with me.

          • lana ward

            My party embraces God, the dems have kicked him out

          • Landsende

            Lana,
            If you really think Democrats don’t believe in God you are sadly mistaken. We believe in a loving, caring God. One that wouldn’t turn his back on those that need help, rich or poor, black, white or brown. Radical teapublican conservatives are the ones that have twisted the meaning of religion. Just because you say your a Christian doesn’t make you one

          • lana ward

            My party embraces God, the dems have kicked him out of everything

          • Landsende

            Lana,
            And you know this, how? Oh yes, that bastion of truth, Faux News. NOT!!!! Putting the word God in your party’s platform does not make you a Christian. Actions speak louder than words and the teapublicans actions show they care nothing about those less fortunate, whether they be the elderly, wounded veterans, students, or the unemployed since they want to eliminate programs to help them and make women second class citizens which by the way includes you.

          • lana ward

            The Republicans care more for the poor than the dems do. They want able bodied people to work-not live off the Government. Get a job, have some self respect and quit taking my money when I can barely make ends me myself. The poor will always be helped, Republicans just don’t want those who can work to live off the rest of us. Pretty soon the makers are going to be broke and be takers too. Then what?

          • lana ward

            Go to the website WND, all the polling has Romney up 8 points and higher!!!!! God Bless America!!!!!

          • CAThinker

            You’re either delusional, misinformed or uninformed. In any case, go find your meds and take them on schedule, like you’re supposed to. You probably should hide your keyboard so the guys in white coats don’t take it away. Or – just go away.

          • lana ward

            Won’t even check the site out? Afraid of what you might see. You’re the one who’s uninformed–on purpose

          • CAThinker

            Oh really… check the site out??? And because it’s on the internet, it has to be true?!?! You really are lost… just another one of the sheep that the Talipublicans like to prey on.

            How about turning on the news or reading the papers? Yes, I even catch a half hour of Faux (typically the most useless 30 minutes of my day), just to see if they have anything legitimate on their minds… They usually don’t…

          • Justin Napolitano

            No Iana, the no party is also the no brain party.
            The Republicans are so self absorbed that they think everyone will just accept their nonsense at face value. Unfortunately, Rick Santorum said it best, intelligent people will never go with the Republicans.

          • Edsanjuan

            Justin: You and the President are the BEST thing that ever happened to our planet …

          • Edsanjuan

            Justin: You POS !!
            Remove my prohibition to post, you COWARD !!

          • Edsanjuan

            Justin: Everybody loves you !!
            I am posting these lies because you caused the DISQUS hypocrites to “review” my REAL comments and, of course, they won’t ever publish them.
            What are you so afraid of, stupid coward ??

          • Edsanjuan

            Justin: You little POS, Santorum never said that !!
            You really tried to shut me up, you little coward, but I am MUCH smarter than you ….

          • Athatheyankee

            My, my, my. Yet another clueless American who still thinks denial is a river somewhere in………Well, it doesn’t matter where the river is, but it is a river.

            That Great Enunciator, G. W. Bush, inherited a budget surplus from Pres. Clinton which he promptly squander giving tax breaks to the wealthy, starting 2 unpaid for wars (actually, the Chinese paid for them), relaxed banking regulations, etc., etc., etc, leaving Obama with the worse national financial mess since the the one–also created by a Republican president-that FDR inherited.

            Further, from day one, Obama was undermined in every effort he put forth (four years ago, what was it that Mitch McConnel said that the number one priority of the Republicans was? Something like make sure Obama failed as a pres. so he would be a one-termer??). I don’t know if you have to work or not, but take a job under those conditions and see how far you get.

            I’ve lived long enough to know every president from Eisenhower forward and I have just never, absolutely NEVER seen a president so disrespected as Obama–from that bonehead in Congress calling him a liar, to that dizzy blond governor of Arizona poking him in the chest during one of her manufactured tantrums. Why? Let’s see. What is the difference between Obama and every other president the US has had. Let me see—-oh yah, the curly hair. Got it. Says a whole lot about our society that elected these knuckleheads.

            Question: Isn’t Congress responsible for expenditures? At least that is what I learned in social studies 47 years ago. If such is the case, explain how Obama is responsible for the national debt.

            If you truly want to discuss our blatantly obvious national deficit, try starting with CRITICAL THINKING. Then you might be able to name—and we’ll make this real easy–what CONTINENT denial is on.

          • jarheadgene

            And let’s not forget Congressman Paul Ryan was licking GW’s boots all along the way, running up the deficit and having fun. “FISCAL CONSERVATIVE” my a$$.

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KF5ULIKGQUBYIEO342L554CYRE Wayco

            Believe me Lana Ward, you have brought into the lies that the republican party have sent out through out the country, I believe you will come to yourself on Oct 3rd when the first debate takes place and see what a bumbling idiot you have chosen to represent you, because you are truly confused.

          • lana ward

            Who was the bumbling idiot tonight. He doesn’t do well without his teleprompter

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/WOKWYTTCSA4OS3DBN53UGTN7CE michaels

            those are not the facts again. remember Bush was comander and chef he and his asministration gave the OK,Do the research

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/D7NV5CXLYTN75QXXI52BLTBAMM roberta

            Lana either you are a writer for FOX network or a very confused person. The architects of this mess goes back to the waning months of the Clinton administration under a Republican House. This is where Phil Grahm , pushed on by his lobbiest wife for Enron, legislation that took down the fire wall between wall street investment and savings banks. This allowed the hedgefund boys to derivatize, using before untouchabale reserve’s. When your hero Bush came in he squandered the 2 trillion surplus, let wall street go unregulated, fought two wars off book, gave unheard of tax cuts to the upper 2 percent, gave an 800 million gift to the large pharma, screwed up Katrina disaster relief resulting in huge lossed paid for by new debt, and by shelving the security briefings from the Clinton security boys, was somewhat responsible for the 911 tragedy and the ensuing billions that cost. It is a canard that Dodd and Barney Franks “forced” Fannie and Freddie to loan money to unqualified applicants. What they forced banks to do was not to red line these applicants into high interest mortgages because they were black or brown. The mortgage collapse was a direct result of the Phil Grahm’s (R-Florida) legislation. When Obama took over the stocks were as low as 6500 under Bush and they are now 13000 +, some socialist behavior that was. You are so misinformed but the political Right is that way. Half truths, talking points, and innuendo are all you guy have. That is why your man Mittens will lose. Please do some basic college level research and you may come out of this coma.

          • lana ward

            Watch the debates!

          • Edsanjuan

            lana: Yep ! You said it ! Watch the debates and see what Obozo comes up with WITHOUT his best friend: ….. the teleprompter !!
            Obozo’s remarks will all be slogans and platitudes that these liberal MORONS love and cheer at. But in the end, on November 6th they will suffer the defeat that the socialists at the White House already see coming ….

          • lana ward

            I read that too. internal polling shows pompous, destructive muslim is losing and is looking to find a mansion to live in. Muslim belongs in a dirty hut just like his brother lives in. So much for “you are your brothers keeper” that he preaches. What a dirty, heartless animal he is.

          • Justin Napolitano

            Ed and Iana, you are smoking dope and have become incoherent. The RNC will not pay you for rantings, they want an argument based on something more than hot air.

          • Edsanjuan

            Justin: I have never touched dope or drugs of any kind. However, the size and condition of your brain confirms that you have had plenty…. going as far back as when LSD was the rage (look what it did to you, man !)

          • lana ward

            You typed into this site, try Pat Dollard, you might learn something

          • Justin Napolitano

            Iana, you watch them and cringe as you hear what comes out of Romney’s lying mouth.

          • lana ward

            I think Obama needed his teleprompter tonight.

          • oldtack

            Lward
            Fifth line down in your diatribe – “…we are about to go to abiss…” What in the world is abiss? Please expound on this so we can all be as smart as you.

          • lana ward

            I’ve had about 18 of you hounds answer my replys, must have struck a nerve. The kenyan is killing our country,wake up!!

          • Justin Napolitano

            Iana, you are losing the argument, please stop posting. Signed RNC.

          • Edsanjuan

            lana: See if you can shut up this idiot Justin; he is Janet’s older brother and you know how DUMB she is. Justin makes Obozo look bad !!
            Signed, DNC

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            My Friend You Never Cut Thru That Tea Bagging Home Schooling These People Are Brain Dead!!!

          • oldtack

            Fern

            AMEN!

          • Edsanjuan

            Fernie girl: Were you talking about yourself? I agree !!

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002316784203 Jean Gonzales

            Lana, you need to look back some years. The theory of trickle-down (Reagan) didn’t work then, won’t work now. The loosening of requirements for home loans happened during the Clinton years, not Obama. Capitalism has always had its flaws. J.P. Morgan hoarded gold, when gold back our currency, until he was forced to stop by the government. We have government to provide boundaries for people’s greed (and lots of other bad habits.)
            You are also “awful”sing. That means seeing only downhill/tunnel with no light, etc. Look at the data again. Try to be part of the solution. It’s certain Romney cannot.

          • lana ward

            Capitalism works, what Reagan did is WHY we had such a great economy under Clinton. And that coward bit– took all the credit for it!

          • jarheadgene

            REAGAN…..speak about him in truth not in the MYTH you GOP have made up about him.

          • CAThinker

            That’s one myth I don’t understand… He got sainted and I’m not sure why – but those that sainted him are pretty fervent in their belief in him… I remember him, especially in the later part of his term, as sort of the forgetful Grandpa – and it used to worry me that he didn’t have all of his faculties, but he was running the most powerful country in the world (never mind that he had Alex Haig as his SOS)… Anyway, he gets credit for ending the cold war, but he almost bankrupted the country to do it – he won by pretending to outspend Gorbachev on defense – I don’t know how much longer that ruse could have ran…

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/WAFT54FJOX6VD3PUGN2DLQ467A John Deer

            WHO WAS PRESIDENT OF USA FOR 8. YEARS – JU HINTAO ?

          • joyscarbo

            Keep telling yourself that while your party descends into the abyss of illegitamacy!!! Bush trashed the county…he lead to the death of thousands of our soldiers for a war based on phony intellegence. Why Bush and his henchmen aren’t being charged with war crimes is beyond me. Mitt Romney doesn’t care for nearly HALF of the population. You can’t expect to be elected president and PROMISE to do nothing for half of the people! This isn’t a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of right and wrong. And the right (right wing) in THIS case is DEAD WRONG!!!!

          • lana ward

            David Corn edited 1 to 2 minutes out of Romneys speech. You must have watched it 0n one of the communist channels. That is not what Romney said, watch it on fox where you can hear the whole speech.

          • Landsende

            Lana,
            Do you really think Faux News didn’t edit it?

          • lana ward

            Watch a real news channel–David Corn from Mother Jones Admitted he took 1 to 2 out of Romneys speech

          • jarheadgene

            We’ve already seen a GOP hacked edit job. ROMNEY was foolish enough to build a whole campaign on “THAT”

          • jarheadgene

            NO….watch it on YOU TUBE…where it is raw and unedited.

          • lana ward

            David Corn admitted what he did. There is 1 to 2 minutes he took out to change what Romney is saying

          • lana ward

            There is no raw and unedited version. David Corn at Mother Jones admitted taking 1 to 2 minutes out of Romney’s speech that explained what he was REALLY saying. We don’t have those minutes because they wern’t recorded Do you think he would omit minutes if they would hurt Romney? Dems are caught doing shit like this all the time to make their opponents look bad. Wake up!

          • jarheadgene

            OH MY GOD….. When Romney came out with that, as an excuse, after I had watched the whole video, I laughed and told my wife, “There is NO WAY anyone would believe that lie”
            You went and proved me wrong……OH MY GOD…..how much can you GOP’ers HATE a black man. GIVE IT UP….YOUR TIME OF RACISM HAS COME AND GONE !

            VOTE…. ALL GOP out of CONGRESS….they have obstructed this country from recovery for TOO LONG !!!!! They even filibustered the Veterans Job ACT, an act mostly written by them, last week just to keep the obstruction going. THIS IS at the exepense of those who have paid more in sacrifice than any of them. EVEN John McCain was in on this, and for once….I as a fellow VET, am ashamed of him. SHAME SENATOR McCAIN…SHAME…SHAME SHAME.

          • lana ward

            Typical Dem–won’t believe the truth. Go back to bed

          • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4HKCTSVHCQJCJUU2VYCERLWWDE Richie T

            It wasn’t Bush’s fault,? this Country had a surplus when Bush came into office, he lowered the taxes the lowest they’ve been since Truman was president, it was supposed to be temporary,
            If Bush did such a great job, why aren’t the Republicans bragging about was a great President he was. they’re not, because he wasn’t. “HE’S” letting, the President does not vote on raising the National Debt limit Congress does. It’s classic, Republicans running the Government, free reign on the debt limit as soon as Democrats get in control, Scream about it. Spend less on a credit card doesn’t lower the bill, OR stop it from growing, A balanced budget, it’s a start, but it doesn’t stop it, it’s not a debit card, it’s a credit card. Give DC to the Republicans, it’s going up, give it to the Democrats, it’s going up, there’s one and only one way to lower the monthly on a credit card, spend less, AND pay it off faster then the interest is raising it. You can’t do that by lowering taxes. Look up the history of the millionaires tax rate over the last 50 years. Their taxes go down, the percent of the assets of this country they control jumps up thousands of times. The “trickle down “bS$# the Republicans keep pushing doesn’t work, it didn’t, it doesn’t, and it never will. Lower the taxes on the millionaires didn’t, doesn’t and never will make a difference, They’ve already both of those more then once. If they want to start a new business, THEY ALREADY HAVE THE MONEY.
            I have no idea how you ever came up with the idea that the dollar is the world’s “reserve currency” Over $5 trillion of our national debit is owed to other countries.
            I always do some research. not make assumption.

          • lana ward

            We are ready to default on the interest payments

          • Justin Napolitano

            Iana, you are ready to default on your ability to have cohesive thought based on your rantings.

          • boxersdaddy

            lana……how is life in rw world under that rock in the garage at fox news?

          • lana ward

            You would hear the real news if you would watch fox, not garbage from the other channels

          • jarheadgene

            FOX is a gossip channel….OWNED and operated by that privacy rights violator Rupert Murdoch.

          • lana ward

            CNN and MSNBC are owned by obama, and he’s a communist muslim

          • jarheadgene

            Are you a child? I gave you a fact….Rupert Mordoch….look him up. You responded like a child, a lying child.

          • lana ward

            I don’t care what Rupert Murdoch does, he’s not President! Right now when our country is broke, the dictator is sending MILLIONS to mosques around the world. Traitor, communist muslim that he is. Go to —-Pat Dollard

          • lana ward

            Go to the website WND, All polling has Romney up 8 points and higher!!!!!! God Bless America!!!!!!

          • Sep_Arch

            That old saw that Fannie and Freddie caused the crash has been debunked so many times it is an embarrassment to hear yet one more mis-informed fool bring it up. You must have no grasp of logic to think that poor people in the US not paying their mortgage caused the economy to crash in Spain.

            The crash was 100% caused by financial deregulation and the immense speculation and fraud on Wall Street, leveraged 20, 30, 40 times over. They pursued the poor with great vigor, lying them into worse loans than their credit would suggest, all so they had fodder for their Mortgage backed securities. No one forced them, the investment banks aren’t even covered by the CRA. When that fountain ran out, they gathered and sold Credit Default Swaps, also based on mortgages. Canadians, by the way, did not allow this financial foolishness and kept their regulations. For this, they were called socialists. The average Canadian’s net worth is now a staggering 40% greater than the average American’s net worth.

            Of course, if you want to defend Bush, you could point out (accurately) that the worst of the deregulation came about under Clinton, who then enjoyed an $80M Wall Street payday once he left office….but you would only do that if you had a clue about the economy or politics.

            And don’t opine on capitalism. You have no idea how it works.

          • jarheadgene

            Most people haven’t heard of the Glass-Stegall Act. And most won’t bother to find out about it either.

          • Mari Johnson

            And your claim is that Bush’s homogeneous debt did not affect the outcome of the slide of the finances of our country. I am certain that GW pushed up that dept for as far as the eye can see. GW did have the veto power. And our party owns that debt as much as Obama and may even more!

          • lana ward

            Obama has made it much, much worse

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/3B3NM5BSULCJK7BUNJATEV2TEM James

            show me!!

          • lana ward

            Your ears and eyes don’t work?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/3B3NM5BSULCJK7BUNJATEV2TEM James

            GW used up Clintons surplus and tripled national debt in his first term, and doubled that in his second term.

          • Edsanjuan

            lana ward: Please don’t bother these liberal, useful idiots, Lefties with FACTS !!
            They will vote for Obozo no matter what, …. and they won’t let facts get in their way.
            This forum is a cesspool of leftist morons and nothing you or I say will change their minds. Come November 6th, they won’t even know what hit them …

          • lana ward

            Thanks!! I think they believe alot of what I said , they just won’t say it. They’ve picked up talking points from the communist media, nothing else can get through their stone brains obamazombies

          • Justin Napolitano

            Lana. are you nuts? No one believes a thing you say except for ED and he is getting paid, by the RNC, just like you

          • Edsanjuan

            Justin: I WISH !!
            You are pathetic …. and you can’t stop lana or me ….

          • jarheadgene

            I have a FACT for you ED…and from one of your BELOVED ones…Ann Coulter, “Chris Christy isn’t going to run and Romney will be the candidate and he’ll lose.”

          • Edsanjuan

            jarhead: That is not a “FACT”; it is (and I seriously doubt it) Ann Coulter’s opinion.
            I say that I doubt it because during the primaries (I don’t know before that) she was in favor of Romney, especially when compared with Gingrich.
            If Gingrich had won the nomination for the Republicans, it would be him (and I understand that’s the way “modern” politics “works”) that would have been unmercifully attacked.
            Anyway, let’s see who will lose on November 6th; I am pretty sure it will be Romney/Ryan. I have heard (perhaps true, perhaps not) that even the people close to Owebama in the W.H. are very worried about what their internal polls are telling them.
            Don’t worry, gene, I will be magnanimous in victory (and I hope you will be too if your candidate, God forbid, wins) LOL!

          • Justin Napolitano

            OK, Iana, you are writing the key words that make you a Republican shill. It is obvious that you are getting paid to post this nonsense. Some of us are dedicated to finding people like you and call them out for being paid to post Republican propaganda.
            You have been called out so please stop.

          • CAThinker

            Wow!!! Cool to know I’m not alone in noticing. Thanks for the validation. Have you noticed how many have come out in the woodwork in just the past few weeks? Good to see another Troll Hunter! Call them out, ask them to leave, then shun them – once it’s clear that you’re dealing with a troll just shun them. Skip over their posts (although I do have to admit to reading ObozoMustGo’s stuff – he says some really strange sh*t… and never fails to amuse me…) Anyway, keep up the good fight!

          • Edsanjuan

            CAT: Now at least you are admitting (and your slip is showing) that ObozoMustGo ” … says some really strange sh*t… and never fails to amuse me..”
            Let’s change the word “strange” to “true”, the word “sh*t” to “facts”, and the words “amuse me” to “amaze me with his command of facts”, …. and PRESTO !! YOU, CAT, become suddenly a really SMART GUY !!!!
            You see? That was easy and didn’t hurt !!
            Congratulations, CAT !!

          • Edsanjuan

            Justin: Man, you are PATHETIC !!
            You don’t like what lana has to say because it’s the truth and, like Jack Nicholson said, “you CAN’T handle the truth” !!
            “You have been called out so please stop.”???? Ha, ha, ha, haaaa !!!
            Justin: You are sooo funnnnnyy !!

          • lana ward

            Not true, I’m not getting paid for this, I’m just paying attention to what’s going on when I can ( i’m one of the lucky one’s that still has a job) I wish I was getting paid for telling the truth, unlike the media being paid to lie. I have 33 cats to feed would you like to donate

          • CAThinker

            33 cats??? That explains a lot…

          • lana ward

            Like your name, you must love animals too

          • lana ward

            Go to the website WND all polling has Romney up 8 points and higher!!!!! God BlessAmerica!!!!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/CJ747270 Craig J Phillips

          Shoot President Bill Clinton got our country out of the Red and into the Black, We actually had a surplus, something we haven’t had in many many ages ago. Then in come Bush Junior and in 2 weeks time he had us into the Red again. By the time He left office we were in the trillions in the hole. It takes more than 4 years to fill in that deep hole.

        • http://www.facebook.com/jerone.lee Jerone Lee

          Well SPOKEN,who ever you maybe. WELL DONE.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/R4RZTN7GJFLYBYCDAMNLQ5OXC4 Angelia Durant

          That’s what I am talking about. The President did not cause jobs to fail, it was President Bush and his Admistration. I guess Iana Ward just came back from the dead since our President came on board. Stupid, igorant people just don’t mix with the true world. Where do they do that at?

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/3B3NM5BSULCJK7BUNJATEV2TEM James

          Well said William!!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/EDW4NFSNB6B352V5BWIYYDS2MM charles holloway

        Lana, sorry you are miss imform, maybe its not your fault. Take care

        • oldtack

          Just go on line and check Lana’s profile then you will know where all this stuff comes from.

      • Peoples425

        Lana – I would suggest you look again at Romney’s record, the companies he has “turned around” are all now bankrupt and THOUSANDS have lost their jobs. The jobs he has created have not been here in this country. The debt that has occurred under Obama has been owed to previous commitments by the republican administration so your assertion is completely false. I would suggest you redefine the word truth and clue.

        • lana ward

          The jobs are lost because of outrageous regulations Obama has put on small businesses, not because of anything Romney did. Obama want this country to fail . Obama’s had 4 years to turn things around and he’s just made them worse.

          • Peoples425

            Stock Market… Better
            Job Creation… Better
            Housing Market… Stabilizing
            Small Businesses… Better

            Hmmm…. I see that things are a WHOLE lot worse under President Obama. Please stop watching Fox, they’re obviously reducing your IQ to sub par levels.

            Obama has had all of the progressive bills that were supposed to help this country stopped by the republicans who have stated on numerous occasions that their number one goal was/is to oust President Obama before policies were even put into place. That in and of itself sounds like sabotage.

          • lana ward

            Wait until the debates

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            They Would Be Better If The GOP/Tea Party Quit Screwing With The American People And Do Their Job Instead Trying To Get Our President Out Of Office!! They Are Terrorists And Traitors To Their Country And The American People!!

          • Peoples425

            Very true…
            The problem is that they are masquerading as patriots and the moronic products of the Limbaugh-esque, Fox news, US school system, you tend to understand the lack of intellect and common sense that you’re dealing with.

          • latebloomingrandma

            I asked my brother, a staunch Republican, who is a small business owner (6 employees) , if he is bothered by gov’t regulations. He couldn’t name one. Perhaps it’s because he has a retail business that doesn’t sell anything TOXIC. or dangerous.

          • lana ward

            Your brother will get hit, give Obama another4 years

          • oldtack

            Obama want this country to fail? What language are you trying to speak? Whatever language it is – you’re not doing very well.

          • lana ward

            So you don’t leave out a letter once in a while? Good for you, you’re perfect!!

          • oldtack

            No, Lana Ward, I’m far from perfect. You, on the other hand are just a perfect epitome of ignorance.

          • Justin Napolitano

            Please name one regulation that is causing jobs to be lost?
            Just name one?

      • http://www.facebook.com/barbaraerskine.miller Barbara Erskine Miller

        “Romney wants Americans back to work, and he has a GREAT record of knowing how to create jobs. Obama doesn’t have a clue.”

        Really? Stop getting your info from FAUX Not News and the like, who just tell more lies daily [I'm sure that's where you got your erroneous figures], and try and do a little research. Dubya was hemorrhaging close to 800,000 jobs a month, and President Obama has has 30 straight months of job creation now, with more than 4.5 million jobs. Romney has experience creating minimum wage jobs at best…go ask the people at Staples, which is the only company he touts as a success, since all the rest were either outsourced to China or bankrupted by Bain & Co, while Willard and Co made millions. He didn’t care about all those people he put out to pasture, including their benefits… Why don’t you take a look at his taxes…oh wait, he won’t show them to us, even though he made all potential VP candidates give him 10 years worth. He’s a fraud, tax cheat [why else would he have all that money outside the US?] and total elitist, as is even more evident by this latest video.

        Unless you’re one of his 1% buddies you are one of the 47% her doesn’t give a crap about, in which case you better hope he doesn’t get into office because that will be the end of America for sure!

        • lana ward

          Stop getting your information from the communist CNN and MSNBC. They NEVER report ALL of the news, just what they want you to hear. Romney has released 2 years, that’s plenty enough for the kenyan to snoop through. Why won’t the kenyan release his REAL birth certificate? What about all of his transcripts? Why is he sending MILLIONs of dollars to countries that HATE us for mosques? He is a muslim kenyan

          • oldtack

            Allegations require PROOF to be received as FACT. Provide PROOF of your allegations. You cannot because you do not have the intelligence to know how to begin finding the truth of anything. Your comments on this forum are PROOF of that allegation.

          • lana ward

            You don’t hear ALL OF THE NEWS, because the media on some channels only give WHAT they want you to hear—–go to Pat Dollard, you might learn something

          • oldtack

            lana ward

            Who in the world is Pat Dollard? Is this person any thing like Limbaugh, Hannity, Maddow, O’Donnel, Medved, Savage, Sawyer, Blitzer or any of the other professional talking heads the pollute the airwaves?

            Now I am beginning to perceive your problem – you depend on someone else to do your thinking for you.

            Is it too taxing on your system to use your own cognitive reasoning? Do you ever seek the source, read and research and form your own opinion?

            Are are you like a mindless bass in feeding frenzy facing upstream,mouth agape,engorging on all the bilge rushing downstream?

            A mindless bass? Hmm.
            I

          • lana ward

            You got to this site by typing it in, that’s how you get to Pat Dollard

          • http://www.facebook.com/dee.roragen Dee Roragen

            Lana u have to be brain dead- or to young to remmber a man named H Humpry- I was born at the end of the depressen. I have seen a few presidents. this man has gone the extra mile.

          • lana ward

            The only extra mile he’s gone is on the campaign trail. That’s the only thing he can do right

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/WOKWYTTCSA4OS3DBN53UGTN7CE michaels

        those are not the facts,Romney took advantage of small falling companies,bought them and sold them piece by piece. People lost retirements ,insurance,and jobs. Don’t beleave me ?, do the research it’s public knowledg.

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/WAFT54FJOX6VD3PUGN2DLQ467A John Deer

        LANA , CAN YOU READ RECORDS OF BAIN CAPITAL ? THEY LIQUIDATE 40.000 US FIRMS , THEN REPLACE THEM TO CHINA !!!

        • lana ward

          Romney hasn’t been at Bain for years

          • jarheadgene

            But Bain is his BIG claim to JOB CREATION…..so he hasn’t been there for a few years…(the only reason you changed your stance on that example is the evidence that BAIN is/was a ruthless “GORDON GEKKO style company)has been enjoying great tax breaks….”WE the PEOPLE” still don’t know his exact worth as he still has not turned in ONE COMPLETE TAX record. The closest to a complete one is missing the total value of his SWISS BANK ACCOUNT. With ALL THOSE MILLION$, and believing in the tax breaks to protect the “JOB CREATORS” and believing in trickle down economics…..show me the jobs he has been creating as of late.

          • lana ward

            Romney”s not at Bain now, so how can he be creating jobs there? Show me the jobs obama said he created—23 million jobless

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/R4RZTN7GJFLYBYCDAMNLQ5OXC4 Angelia Durant

        Romney flip flop more than fishes, and he don’t care about nobody but rich people, not you. One minute he says something good to be true, and then the next second, he has no plan to help poor people. Soooo, you and Romney needs to hook-up and marry each other so that you can both agree to nothing but yourselves.

        • lana ward

          You believe Romney said he doesn’t care about poor people and that is COMPLETELY false!! David Corn from “Mother Jones” has admitted editing 1 to 2 minutes from Romneys speech making it sound like he said something he NEVER said. Dems are deceitful, nothing is off limits for them. Winning at any cost is all that matters.

      • highpckts

        He NEVER created one job! He invested in companies that were already established! Thank goodness these companies stayed afloat but that wasn’t because of Romney!!

        • jarheadgene

          NOT all of them…many he fleeced to the point of Bankruptcy.

        • lana ward

          Romney turned failing companies around which led them to create thousands of jobs. How many jobs has obama created? 23 million Americans, jobless. He has done this ON PURPOSE knowing the more people depend on Government, the more votes he’ll get!! Isn’t he just wonderful!

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/RBAWVP4L32OVNKND2JZXX7JULY deborah

        Obama has not caused the economy to go south lana. McCain would have found the same mess Obama did: worse than anticipated. Do you think a change in Presidents will control a world economy? Naive of you at best.

        • lana ward

          Yes, obama is doing everything to destroy us. If he really wanted to turn the economy around, he would KNOW his policies AREN’T WORKING and do something different. Romney loves his country and will turn this around, he knows how

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/3B3NM5BSULCJK7BUNJATEV2TEM James

        Your rigth romney turned many companies around. Then he raided them and
        grabed big profits for himself and left them to go bankrupt and fail.!!
        Sure don,t need this ass in the White house.

        • lana ward

          Obama has bankrupted the Whole Country, we sure don’t need his ass in the White House

    • montanabill

      This might come as a shock to you Tammie, but a lot more of them are than you think. For a bit more knowledge, you might read, “The Millionaire Next Door’.

  • Bob Williams

    Yeah, small business owners LOVE Obama and all of the burdensome regulations he has put in their way. Besides – they didn’t create those businesses anyway – Obama did that!!!

    • http://twitter.com/berriesandblood Shelley

      What burdensome regulations in their way?? Oh! you must mean those pesky 18 tax decreases he’s given them!

      • NCSOUTHERNGENTLEMAN1

        Don’t waste your time trying to explain the tax decreases that Obama gave to small businesses. The other side only listens to FOX and have absolutely no idea what the Dems have really done to help businesses to succeed and survive this Republican Recession.

      • 413nat37

        Shelly you must be on welfare like most of OBAMA lover’s

        • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

          Typical retort from a brain dead Tea Party member.

        • lebh

          @413nat37
          What a moronic comment to make!
          I am an Obama supporter, I have never have been on welfare or any kind of public assistance, have worked all my life, paid my fair share of taxes, at a rate much higher than Mr. Romney and others in similar position.
          I believe that we are our brother’s keeper, I believe that we need to feed the hungry, help the sick, take care of the planet. I do not support corporate greed where the employee is exploited to benefit the CEO and investors, where jobs are outsourced abroad. I do not believe corporations are people. As a woman, I do not believe in abortion but believe that I have the right to choose without government interference. And believe me, there are many more like me, and we will go and vote on November.

        • oldtack

          Shelly – go join your friend Lana back somewhere off this forum. Your one liners of gibberish readily identify you.

        • jarheadgene

          413…First that is ridiculous to assume that, second, YOU mention it with disdain much like your father WILLARD M ROMNEY. Did you know HIS father was also on welfare, thought I would mention it, since you seem to look down on that program………SNOB!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XARAYZ6D6QSAZLE4SWTOQR3TFE Linda

      Obama doesn’t believe that. Most of the nation doesn’t believe that. Where on earth did you get your screwball ideas?

    • 113121

      So why do they like Obama? Lying for the Lord or just rolling fact free?

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_V2GZMDSV3PM34RT72YSHCJ7WMM Chiron8839

      That’s funny. You completely ignore the fact that Obama’s “you didn’t build that” comment was taken out of context and spun by the right into a slur against business owners, and go right on mouthing unsubstantiated cliches.

    • joyscarbo

      SOUR GRAPES, BOB, SOUR GRAPES!!!! Mitt doesn’t have a chance now that he’s showed how little he cares for half the country. Your party needs a serious enema and a reality check. The republican party has become a very bad JOKE. It’s losing it’s legitamacy and THAT is where you need to place your criticism. YOUR party did this to itself, NOT OBAMA!

    • johninPCFL

      No regulations that I’ve seen impact my business. Our healthcare insurance policy declined in price by $24k/year. We took advantage of the tax reduction measures in the stimulus law.

      Maybe you just weren’t paying attention. Or maybe you were only paying attention to Rush and the other whiners.

      • Edsanjuan

        johninPCFL: You say that “Our healthcare insurance policy declined in price by $24k/year.” WOW !!
        What a FIB !! (or should I say a “fab” for fabrication !!)
        That’s an outright LIE, and you know it !!!
        Tsk, tsk, tsk ….

        • johninPCFL

          Our Florida carrier is BCBS, our policy premium for the six people on the polic was $15.5k per qtr in 2010. When ACA was passed, the policy became part of the “basic” policy program that BCBS used for their entry plans for ACA, and the policy premium dropped to $9500/qtr, a $6k drop. Last time I checked, $6000 X 4 was $24k per year.

          Don’t you get tired of always being wrong?

          • Edsanjuan

            john: And don’t you get tired of lying to the poor Obozo idiots that populate this cesspool?

          • johninPCFL

            Ed, you are the most worthless person I’ve ever had the chance to engage. Just wander off to the seashore or wherever you can float off and never come back.

            If your brains could be turned into fuel, they wouldn’t have the power to drive a piss-ant’s motorcycle half-way around a BB.

          • Edsanjuan

            john: GOOD one !!
            …. I guess, no, I KNOW, that you did not come up with that by yourself;
            …. your cell mate MUST have helped you … LOL !!

          • johninPCFL

            Wrong again. You know, with your record of success, I’d have to go outside and check if you said the sky was blue…

    • TBDB412

      Just name a few. Hmmmmm… this might take a while. I’m sure you’ll have to dream something up. My husband owns his own small business so I speak from true experience. Obama is FOR small business. Romney couldn’t care less.

    • trucker581

      They may not exactly LOVE Obama, but they HATE the Mittster!!!

    • dinokonstans

      I’m retired. What exactly (list them please) are those burdensome regulations ?

    • mynx1

      blah, blah, blah, Obama, blah, blah blah Hate, blah, blah, blah, nobody wants to vote with me,

      Obama 2012 and beyond :)

    • jarheadgene

      YOU may want to go back to English 101 and learn about antecedents, Bob Williams.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mrpayback MrPayback Coyotebrains

    This poll like so many recent left wing skewed ones is garbage and slanted by Democrat ideologues. The Dems and Obama supporters are getting very desperate. I am a business owner and can vouch for myself and EVERY other business owner that I know who adamantly disagree with this fake poll…Obama is a failure and has never done anything to help small business. Take your polls and shovel them! Shame on National Memo who is obviously complicit in promoting these lies and distortions.

    • johninPCFL

      Well now you can say there’s at least one who disagrees with you. I’ve seen no new regulations that impact me, I’ve taken advantage of the tax reduction from the stimulus bill, and our insurance bill declined from $15.5k/qtr to $9.5k/qtr after the ACA was passed.

      • pleiku1965

        All of the Republican “know it alls” will wonder where all of those “fake polls” originated by around November 20th.

        What! In our own backyard.

        • http://www.facebook.com/mrpayback MrPayback Coyotebrains

          The only Know-it-all in this race is Obamaboy, our dictator who only favors unions and ridiculous pensions that have been proven as a path to bankrupting America. Seems that Golfing boy wonder and David Letterman appearances are his priorities, not looking after our country. Good Lordy Dang, what a dismal failure. Known as the worst president in history is being to kind to him. He will be gone in November. I am right about this. Face it folks!

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/D7B3UYVAFBJAADWJGY3GOEOEPI joseph

            When President Obama is reelected again, why don.t you sell your business and leave this country. It seems to you that repubs are saints without blemish in every aspects of our llives. They want control of our health issues and what we are to believe. You become a zombie and will continue to be mesmorized by the super right idiots LOL Iraq or Afganistan might be a good place for you and your ilk.

          • Consideration1

            I will help U pack Sir. It is getting too colorful & loving for U. One thing you should notice it is changing for the better. Take the Mittser with U.

      • Edsanjuan

        johninPCFL: REMEMBER, liars need a good MEMORY !!
        Don’t you remember that in a recent post (look it up a little further up !!) you said (and I called you on it !) that “… Our healthcare insurance policy declined in price by $24k/year.”
        Now, johninPCFL, you flip-flopping Obozo wannabe, what’s the REAL number, $6,000, $24,000 or …. was it really a HUGE increase in health care costs, costs that will INCREASE even more as more and more clauses of Obamacare are activated ??
        Your dishonesty, sir, is so obvious …

        • johninPCFL

          Hey, moron. $6k/QTR for 4 QTRS is $24k/YEAR.

          See, all of the words are important, not just the ones you want to pay attention to. Maybe you should repeat 12th grade? Oh, you haven’t been through 12th garde yet? OK, when do you get there? Five more years? Will mom still let you use her computer that long?

          • Edsanjuan

            john: Since you repeated 5th grade SIX times, and then quit school, can you please tell me how to get health insurance for 6 employees for $62,000 per year?
            Seems to me that if you paid that amount for 6 people YOU are the real MORON here, john…. LOL !!

          • johninPCFL

            Do you have to work really hard to be so stupid? Do you have health insurance, or are you still on your mom’s policy?

            Let’s try some math and see if you can keep up. Each employee has a plan, and some have family plans. Each employee’s plan costs between $400 and $1000 per month. On a quarterly basis (that would be three months to the really slow ones, like you Ed), that amounts to $9500. Are you good so far? Do you need a popsicle?

            So then, if the plans’ total costs were $15.5k/qtr and are now $9500/qtr, the difference is $6000/qtr, or $24000 per year.

            God, you’re just an impossibly stupid asshole.

          • Edsanjuan

            john: “Impossibly stupid asshole”??
            You got me there, man! How did you find out?
            …. I guess it takes one to know one ….
            Oh well !

          • johninPCFL

            I read one of your responses. Only an impossibly stupid asshole could opine like you.

          • Edsanjuan

            john: Only an impossibly stupid asshole could opine like YOU !!
            Tsk, tsk, tsk ….
            Are you getting tired from getting clobbered, john, by a person who can “run rings” around you ??

          • johninPCFL

            You run rings around nobody, except in your own tiny little mind.

    • mynx1

      blah, blah, blah, Obama, blah, blah blah Hate, blah, blah, blah, nobody wants to vote with me,

      Obama 2012 and beyond :)

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KWXWFAGH5VQ43ATYST6AWEBFSE Wokeup flared up

      Oh you now fill out tax forms, cleanup your toxic waste, require you gice employees some benefits. You sais business, not small business so I guess you are in the 1% who he has asked to pay a fair share vs deductions andd overseas bank accounts

    • Consideration1

      How much do U make a year, U sound like U are a part of the 1%. Get to know some real Americans!

  • 2hheels2

    As it should be the Republican’s small business that they worry is GE

  • Elsa

    Like I say, keep talking Mitt. We really want to hear what you have to say.

  • joyscarbo

    Again with the sour grapes…
    So why do you come to this website when you KNOW you don’t agree with it’s slant. Which, by the way, it has every right to voice. Conservative news media and websites do the same thing, so you’re “shame on you,” is a little self righteous- typical of a republican right wingnut.
    Congrats…you’re a business owner! But you cannot speak for every business owner. There are PLENTY of small, medium and large businesses and corporations who WILL be voting for Obama. You’re just so full of neo-con kool aid, you can’t see anything else.
    The real truth behind all your righteous indignation about Obama supporters is because you KNOW Mitt has NO chance in hell of winning the presidency now. The republican party is a JOKE. Even Fox News said that Ryan spewed lies in his RNC speech- so many, he set an all time record for the number of misleading and untruthful claims. Romney is a awkward, ingenuine baffoon. Republicans are cringing every time he opens his mouth. Republicans are going to get their asses handed to them AGAIN by the American people at the polls and they deserve it! What happened to honorable republicans like Lincoln and Eisenhower? Those days and those kinds of men with that kind of integrity is woefully bereft in this republican party. Republicans are losing their legitimacy and they have no one to blame but theirselves, you included. So while you’re waging your finger at democrats and those who are “left leaning,” you may want to look in a mirror and do something about your sorry party. It’s your party and you can cry if you want to.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KWXWFAGH5VQ43ATYST6AWEBFSE Wokeup flared up

      My parents, both dead now, always said the Republicans were the rich, for the rich and selfish. As a young man, and rebelish I would make up mu own mind and be Independant. I dont believe I own alleance to any individual or party, they are there to present canidates for me to choose from, not choose the party. That was then, up to now. The last 16 – 20 years of the history has provided my mental dats base with enough data to see who is really for “all” the people, who really care about spending, welfare of people, international image. WHich party starts wars (unfunded to be past next admistration). WHich party wants to control my health care? Which party insults, belittles allies? Which Party looks down their nose at those who weret born with a silve spoon in their mouth. Which Party preaches values but blatenly, out in open, act without them? They not for me, after this, the worse I have ever seen, contest I am now a unoffice member of the opposite side of the above. I want to be an independant but afraid I am forced to chose a party who I can belive, trust and have confidence they represent to good of all.

      • Consideration1

        You have a good head on your shoulders & you are using it. GO!

  • 413nat37

    Your National MEMO Is so bias it is sickining .
    Your all going down with OBAMA.
    Move to another country If you don’t like the
    true american WAY .
    Franklin R .Delano
    U.S. Army Korean war vet
    Get a job like nobody else can under this administration.

    • johninPCFL

      So you’re one of the moochers, then. Got it.

      • Edsanjuan

        john: The real moocher is “Moochie” Obama ….

        • johninPCFL

          And the real idiot is you. Veterans and soldiers still serving, millionaires with good CPAs, and the elderly on SS are part of the 47%: ” There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right. There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them.”

          Go get a job and take responsibility for your life.

          • Edsanjuan

            johninPCFL: Please DO try not to make a fool of yourself any more?
            Romney can be “off” on the 47 % figure but NOT in the rest of what he said.
            With Odumbo, that (uncertain) 47 % will turn into 60 % “at the Roman circus” and 40 % paying taxes to sustain the “circus” (… until they get tired of that and join the spectators at the “circus” …)

          • johninPCFL

            Apparently you’ve been asleep in the basement too long. Of the number Romney talked about 24% were working folks paying other payroll taxes. They just got all their income tax money back. Unlike Romney, they at least paid income tax.

            Then there’s the 10% who are on social security. That 62+ age block will certainly vote for Obama and haven’t gotten their life together, right? (sarchasm off) Unlike Romney, they mostly paid income, self employment, and payroll taxes their entire life.

            Then there’s the 8% block of unemployed who paid no income taxes. They probably will vote for Obama because he’s at least tried to help them. Romney mostly helped himself to their pension funds and laid them off.

            Finally, there’s 1% left who paid no income taxes. This group is composed of students living on borrowed money and the very wealthy who have good CPAs, like Romney.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/47UD7UZ7UQ5IK3EO3BBZAS63IM Eduardo

            johninPCFL: Again, I must insist that you stop making a fool of yourself.

            Even liberal useful idiots will be turned off by your crazy statements to the effect that: “[the 8 % block of unemployed] Romney mostly helped himself to their pension funds and laid them off.”

            You see, John, it is statements like this one that show not only your utter ignorance, but also your naivete (in the best case), or your outright dishonesty (in the worst case).

            Another statement that shows your ignorance (or dishonesty) is this: ” They just got all their income tax money back. Unlike Romney, they at least paid income tax.”

            This statement is also wrong on 2 counts:
            1) It is not true; do you think that Romney could have gotten away with not paying income tax for several years without the IRS Gestapo having gone after him relentlessly?
            2) You missed the fact that in the 1st sentence you say that “they just got all their income tax money back.”. Then, on the 2nd sentence you contradict yourself (again, john ?!) by saying that “… they at least paid income tax.” So, john, what will it be tonight ?

            Apparently, it is not I who have been “asleep in the basement too long.”

            Please get your act together, johnin, so that next time you decide to answer one of my posts you do so with at least some substance ?

            Oh, brother ….

          • johninPCFL

            Are you really that much of a dunce, or are you just one of the Koch brothers stooges? 1) Income taxes are paid on wages. Romney’s monies are classified as capital gains or loan interest payments. Why bother? Well, they’re taxed at 15% maximum. Take a few deductions for running a home office in one of the mansions and you get to the 13.9% Romneys claims on his tax returns. So, no income taxes there blinky.

            For an extra point, see if you can follow the bouncing ball. Romney and his group round up investors and buy a controlling interest in GST Steel (about 10% of the company.) It costs Bain about $2 million to do so, and GST Steel owes about $25 million at the time. Once in control, Romney’s group seizes the pension fund and drains it of “overpayments”, then goes on a borrowing spree and runs up the GST tab to $432 million (the amount on the bankruptcy filing.) They walk away. In the process of the money grab, Bain takaes out $42 million in “management fees” and their partners pull out an additional $250 million. The pension fund is now underwater and transfers to the Pension Guarantee Fund for the taxpayers to make good. The $432 million owed is written off by the suppliers and the banks. They, of course, take the loss deductions from their income taxes. Isn’t it fun to know that your mom and others who actually pay taxes contributed to Romney’s retirement fund?

            2) Yes, they paid income taxes and received a full refund. Romney paid no inome taxes and received no refund. What kind of idiot doesn’t understand a plain sentence? Well, you I guess.

            And yes, I think Romney has enough money to pay people to squirrel it away tax-free. Overseas, for instance. Like in his Cayman Islands accounts. Or in his Swiss accounts. Are you enough of a dunce to think it isn’t done every day?

            Ask mom if she’ll let you out a bit tomorrow. The basement appears to be affecting you.

          • Edsanjuan

            john: YOU, my friend, are the DUNCE here !
            If there is NO income (you said it yourself) then there is NO income tax.
            If his income was 100 % capital gains and interest, and no wages, then Romney, as happens to your hero Warren Buffet, DOES NOT have to pay income tax on those monies !
            Now, john: I ask you: WHERE lies the illegality in that? I repeat: If the IRS Gestapo understood that Romney’s taxes were not forthright and according to the law, they would have gone after him a long time ago.
            john, my Mom says that she’ll let me out of the basement tomorrow but only if I promise her NOT to talk to a dummy…. Sorry I can’t talk to you, but I really, really want to get out ….
            LOL !!!

          • johninPCFL

            So we agree then. Romney did nothing illegal. You live in a basement. I was right.

            You are just as sharp as a marble.

          • Edsanjuan

            john: Your first sentence: AGREE; your 2nd sentence: AGREE wholeheartedly; your 3rd sentence: disagree ( I live in a very nice house in a very nice neighborhood); your 4th sentence: agree if you are referring to your 2nd sentence (and I know you aren’t …); your 5th sentence: I am (just a bit) sharper than a marble; you are JUST as sharp as a marble ….
            Have a nice evening !

          • johninPCFL

            Sure you do. In your own mind.

            Maybe I was wrong. I think maybe you’re only as sharp as a bowling ball.

    • mynx1

      blah, blah, blah, Obama, blah, blah blah Hate, blah, blah, blah, nobody wants to vote with me,

      Obama 2012 and beyond :)

    • CAThinker

      If it’s “sickening” just leave – no one here asked you to post and many of us would prefer that you didn’t… So don’t get sick, just leave.

    • jarheadgene

      May I suggest you go to the other threads that are very Pro Romney . You can call the liberal or moderate Dems…every name you want…you’ll look stupid there too. But you’ll be in “like” company. If not maybe you can learn a fact here….FACT …to WILLARD Romney you are part of the 47% he reviles. AS a Korean War Vet that would put you in your late 70′s unless you wanted to work ’til you die, you are retired, you are drawing social security, you are on Medicare, and if you need to and qualify, you can also use Medicaid when necessary. IN PRESIDENT OBAMA’S view you have EARNED this, you worked hard and ARE entitled to it…you paid into it, over many years. You may be also drawing on some 401k or IRA or pension. But the GOVERNMENT ENTITLEMENTS I just mentioned disgust Romney….you don’t have to believe me watch the speech on YouTube. To him you are parasite on the little 13% taxes he pays. I say YOU paid into it, YOU earned it. ROMNEY makes me sick. He belittled every elderly, every lower ranking military personnel, Disabled Persons that cannot work. Shall I go ON? He has “dis’d”, my parents and a lot of other elderly…..they worked hard so they could enjoy retirement and this man wants to take that away and insults them…..KISS my A$$ Romney, you are no friend of mine.
      Jarhead Gene
      USMC – Cold War Vet
      I have a JOB !

      • http://profile.yahoo.com/KWXWFAGH5VQ43ATYST6AWEBFSE Wokeup flared up

        WOW! Very well put! Seeing Rommey never had to work he has no clue, thinks everybody has a billion dollar reserve account, if not they are not financially responsible. In their wold how can any body have a reserve? Low wages ( union busting), part time employment vs full time. No job security, tomorrow could go overseas. We now pay income tax, SS Medicare out of pay checks, where will that payroll deducion go if they do away with these benefits. And what happens t the millions alraedy paid in ( now in the General fund instead of a seperate account as it was intended). ( by tthe way what President took money for SS acount and put in General fund to decrease shortage?) what about all the IOUS the government has issed SS for money stollen? Is this the M&R decifite reduction stratagy?

      • Edsanjuan

        jarheadgene: There you go again, showing EVERYBODY that you really, really have a “jarred” head. (I said “head”, instead of “brain”, because you socialist Obozo wannabes don’t possess even a half-brain …)
        … and I’ve got news for you: We Conservatives (the few that have become “posters” on this cesspool called The National Memo), will CONTINUE to shine our spotlights on you and lay bare what you want the USA to become with Obozo’s (failed) “leadership” !!!
        So, if you can’t put up with the TRUTH, ….. YOU can leave the cesspool !!
        LOL !!!

        • I4truth

          If you are so miserable and full of pure HATE as you appear to be, , perhaps YOU are the one who needs to leave!!! TRUTH?? You will never get that by listening to FOX & other right-wing RADICALS. Try watching MSNBC, where they at least PROVE what they report on. You see and hear what Mittens & his accomplices lie about and you still support them??? WHERE IS YOUR BRAIN???

          • Edsanjuan

            I4untruth: MSNBC?? You mean MSLSD?? You get your info from MSLSD ??!!!
            Just HOW, pray tell, does MSLSD “prove” their “news” and their “reports”?? By telling you that they are reporting “the truth”??!!
            You are the champ (really chimp) of the naive …
            You accuse me of being full of hate. You really want to see hate, and see firsthand the manifestations of hate and the arguments with which liberal lefties (try to) JUSTIFY hate? Just mention George W. Bush and/or Dick Cheney and/or Ronald Reagan (yes ! Reagan !!) and you will see the huge, pestilent RATS coming out of the woodwork and going berserk on a “feeding frenzy” about who can come up with the ugliest insult.
            Just to give you 2 examples: 1) One IDIOT said a few days back about Cheney that she wished to punch whoever made the decision to operate on his heart and save his life. 2) Another complete MORON said that he wished that Cheney DIED (you heard that right !) real soon.
            They should be ASHAMED !!! …. but I know that they are NOT.
            So you see, I4Untruth, there are sooooo many hateful people in this cesspool and the pure, unadulterated hate is so prevalent that it is nauseating.
            “Demagoguery and hate can only flourish in the manure of ignorance” – Edsanjuan – 2012 -

          • I4truth

            If you ever were to watch MSNBC, which you so easily “slur”, you would find out that they DO prove what they report on – with actual videos. You will never see that on FOX. As to Dick Cheney, I truly believe he is one of the most EVIL of men AND to blame for the bad rap that George W. got and is still getting. George W. was just a puppet for him, Rumsfeld, etc. That is exactly what Mitt would be for Koch Bros, Karl Rove, BIG businesses – and I believe that . The Republican Party POWER, who has kept the Republicans hostage, Grover Norquist said that all they needed for president was someone who could sign his name on the bills that were put before him. If you are not one of the 1%, you had better re-think where you are coming from!!! Please, please open your eyes before it is too late!!

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/47UD7UZ7UQ5IK3EO3BBZAS63IM Eduardo

            I4truth: I truly believe that you should change your moniker to “I’mConfusedabout theTruth” (too long, huh?).
            Listen to yourself ! You state that MSLSD always tells the truth and then you go off on a crazy (no other name for it) rant about:
            1) ” That is exactly what Mitt would be for Koch Bros, Karl Rove, BIG businesses – and I believe that’” – How, pray tell, do you KNOW this? Your answer: “Just because, Ed!!”
            2) How on earth could Grover Norquist, NOT a dummy like Clown Biden, have EVER said “… that all they needed for president was someone who could sign his name on the bills that were put before him.” How do you know he said such a stupid thing? Your answer: “Just because, Ed!!”
            My dear “I’mConfusedabout theTruth”, please stop making a jackass of yourself with these kinds of crazy comments, please ??
            Oh, brother….

          • I4truth

            Eduardo, you appear to be one angry, hateful human being!! I know G Norquist said that because I watched him say that on a video, so don’t call me a liar. I DO NOT LIE!! You know when you point your finger at someone, you are actually pointing 3 at yourself. I’m having no more discourse with you, as I try my best to avoid completely UNREASONABLE, people, who cannot have a civil discussion AND IT IS OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE, so Good Luck and enjoy being one of the 47%………..!

          • Edsanjuan

            I4Untruth: Correction: You don’t avoid UNREASONABLE people; you avoid people like me who set you straight and, in doing so, make you look bad.
            Just FYI: Don’t believe videos – they can be “doctored”; I have seen (and heard) videos on YouTube in which Owebama “says” that he is a “practicing” Muslim !! … and I would never believe that he would admit to that.
            NEITHER should you believe a video on which an intelligent guy like Norquist “says” such a stupid thing.
            Wake up, naivete is BAD….

        • jarheadgene

          Ed….wow….you were never so mean to me before…..so the gloves are off…time to break out the brass knuckles. No more exchange of ideas or debate. Just name calling and pejoratives from now on between you and I.
          O.K. The greatest socialist of all time was JESUS CHRIST, who never said blessed are the rich who hoard and spit upon those that are financially inferior; rather, he put down the RICH and the mighty (or so they thought/think they were/are). ROMNEY is a money changer just like the ones JESUS kicked out of the Temple, in righteous anger (the only kind of anger that is not a sin). Ananias and Saphira did not get the idea of helping out their fellow believers and suffered immediate consequences for it. This is a capitalistic society with compassion for all Americans. Two different Roosevelt Presidents had to slap some rich a$$es around to help keep some balance in this country, in FDR’s case it was to restore some balance. You can shine the spotlight all you want on me, I AM not the issue. Robme vs OBAMA is the issue. Robme wants to continue to pay little or no taxes while he complains about everyone else (18% actually) that pay no Fed Income tax, he wants to give even more tax breaks to himself and his billionare friends. He want to go to war with IRAN to make DOD contractors even richer than they already are, i.e. Halliburton/KBR(CHENEY). Obama wants everyone to get a “leg up” if they need it. He wants to be sure our sick our elderly our disabled are not living in the streets with the dogs not even wanting to lick their wounds. He wants everyone to have affordable health care. He wants everyone to get decent wages. ALL taxes are redistributions or firetrucks and police would only go to “certain houses” and teachers would not be allowed to teach ALL American kids. Obama knows America is SICK of war, has ended one and vows to end the other. HERE is your spotlight —–siding with the GOP you want obstruction to success and recovery. YOU ARE A HOARDING GREEDY P.O.S. who could care less about your fellow man, or the sick or the elderly or the disabled. UPON YOUR DEATH you will be joined by the likes of HITLER, STALIN, MUSSOLINI, HEROD, CHENEY, ATTILLA the HUN, KING GEORGE III, NAPOLEON, MARIE ANTOINETTE, OSAMA Bin LADEN, PHAROAH, etc…etc…and then JUDGEMENT by the GREATEST Socialist of ALL TIME. You still have time to REPENT.

          FYI the NAZI were FACISTS not Socialist, in case you want to go that line.

          • Edsanjuan

            Jarred Head: 1) No problem with the brass knuckles; just be careful that you don’t knock yourself out, LOL !!
            2) Do you have a problem with Jesus Christ, just as your fellow Democraps had at your “convention” in which the mere mention of Jesus’ name brought the house down with boos?
            3) If you DO NOT have a problem with Jesus Christ, is it because of YOUR belief (not mine) that he was “the greatest socialist of all time”? In other words, for you, the more socialism the BETTER ?? (Wow ! Just like for Obozo !!)
            4) You certainly know so much about Mr. Romney’s “real” intentions ! Do you get your info about Romney’s secret intentions (they MUST be secret because if he informed everybody and his brother about them he could not expect to get elected) from your own readings, or do you just stupidly and blindly repeat what other, bigger idiots than yourself, state as facts in this cesspool called The Nationa Memo?
            5) I’m glad that you only called me P.O.S. and not piece of shit ! LOL!! (Yep, you caught me there; I guess it takes one to know one, isn’t it?)
            6) Lastly, and since I have dedicated to you more time and attention than what you deserve, let me state that there is a BIG chance that when I die (years and years after you do !) I will join the people you mention … but NOT Cheney because he will be in Heaven.
            Jarred Head: Have a nice day !!

    • Consideration1

      U wish, But no so! Haters wind up doing poorly at all things

    • Consideration1

      Less of U is more, Get it! Bye, Bye

  • joceandre

    Looking at that video it looks like Mitt took his LSD PILLS instead of his Prozac. The man is detached from the real world . I do not hear any of you crying for the threats made to Chicago suggesting to Iran to drop a dirty bomb there , for that this man should have been arrested. Where is the FBI? I THINK HE IS THE NEXT BIN LADIN.

    • jarheadgene

      You are soo000 right. Dirty Bombs on Americans….that is no way for a President to talk, what an IDIOT.

  • Joe Narusiewicz

    Romney’s message is being delivered by the most inept republican since Howdy Doody and only the base ultra conservatives, George Bush neocons and zombies are with him and the nutty tea party and next it and him is going to start to really affect other races in the senate and house. The rats will leave the ship

    • CAThinker

      I think you just insulted Howdy Doody… :)

  • 413nat37

    Your getting the wrong information Obama could care less That’s
    why Your husband and you are Going broke if OBAMA gets elected

    • johninPCFL

      see that little word ‘Reply’ over in the lower right corner? See, if you click that with your mousey-thingy, your worthless drivel is attached just below the comment you can’t refute.

      Ples go beck to skul an larn somthin.

    • lavorne46

      You got it twisted its Mitt who care less. Dont need no poor folks as he quote.
      I am retired and was bless with pension and social security. I worked and earned my keep.
      Bless, Bless everyday. God has smile on me. Thank you Lord.

  • trucker581

    Turn out the lights Mitt, It’s all over with.

    • Consideration1

      I am with U on that. But we have to watch out for Mitt the money man. he will do any & everything to win. We must VOTE, people VOTE !

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/2BK4GN6CDVOOBMXWHI3KXFAFNE douglas

    According to Mr. Romney the middle class salary is between $200 & $250 thousand dollars a
    year. Most small business owners probably do not get this salary. So, I guess they are in the
    47% that rely on the government for everything. And, I think that most of them knew what
    Pres. Obama meant when he said that they did not make the roads, bridges, etc. that help their
    business. He never said that did not make their own businesses.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Barry-Levy/1091577549 Barry Levy

    any site, that has a pop up for supporting the unpatriotic failure in chief, prior to getting to read the story should be suspect.

    • lavorne46

      I guess you much be the suspect. Anytime you listen to the man that wont come clean about his taxes you smell a dead cat on the line. You cant play double standards, and expect your vice president candidate to release 10 years and you want give a full year. Never in history have a candidate not abide and still thinks he dont have give you people his finance info.
      Dont no body care how much money he has , more power to him but he has to realize he
      can not buy his way into the white house. God got it all in control because soon or later your real self will come forth.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lutrell.simmons Lutrell Simmons

    i am so tired of romey he needs to go to another country where he is hiding his money and don’t pay taxes and stay there we donot need people like him running this country him and the gops are the cause of all the mess we are in right now

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001019572831 Kalar Walters

    FYI, the Rethuglicans voted down the Veterans Jobs Bill today. How’s that for being on the side of jobs?

  • mynx1

    Romney stated that Corporations are people too. Now we know what he thinks of GE who paid no taxes. Corporate welfare is killing America.

    Obama 2012 and beyond :)

  • Consideration1

    Romney has no idea of anythimg small. I have always been in business & it has always been small.
    With 5 to 15 employees. I made my payroll, paid the taxes & many weeks I got no PAY. Thats small business. My son is now in construction with 3 employees. He struggles & can’t pay the insurance for his family. Workmans Comp. & Liability along with business ins. have to be paid first. He pays a higher rate than the larger companies because he can’t claim all of the loophole deductions. If Mr. Mitt Romney really cares to know how the average person has to live he has an open invitation to visit my family for just one week. Even after we work our butts off 12&14 hrs. a day we
    have to come home in the winter & schiver because we can hardly afford to heat the house. We have to worry about health Ins. as my daughter-in-law has cancer(in remission) nevertheless it is a
    pre-existing problem . Yea Mr. Romney would do well to make it one day in our shoes. We are in
    that 47% and we pay taxes & have no problem showing our returns

    • lana ward

      The price of everything is going up under Obama. Your taxes will go up too. Can’t you see how bad things have become under his leadership. 23 MILLION Americans out of work. Our country is over 16 TRILLION in debt and he just keeps spending. He is destroying this country and 47% don’t want to see it

      • AdamMos

        Low inflation is good for an economy. Deflation is bad and leads to deep recessions. My taxes are lower under Obama. If the repubs allowed him to pass job bills and did not force him to lay off public sector workers we would have a lot less people unemployed. The additional debt under Obama is a result of medicare, social security, the bush tax cuts , wars Obama did not start and Bush did not pay for, presciption drug program under Bush that was not paid for, and a stimulus that was required to keep us from the greatest depression in world history. Romney’s ideas are completely irresponsible and he is unelectable.Other than the super rich he has now alienated almost everybody except the completley stupid in this election.I apologize for quoting facts in this post. This may be the end for the Republican party. OBAMA 2012!

        • lana ward

          Don’t get ahead of yourself–wait until the debates

          • AdamMos

            Sure, Good Luck with that! The only thing Romney has going for him in the debates is that the expectations for him are so low. Just like his convention speech where everyone was saying that was the best speech he ever made and he still sucked. In fact the whole RNC sucked. He appears to be on the wrong side of every issue with most Americans.

          • lana ward

            What a bumbler!! I think Obama needed his teleprompter tonight, don’t you?

          • Consideration1

            We must Get the Vote out. Romney is poor in communicating. As
            Americans we believe that Good will win out. This county isn’t for
            SALE.

          • Cairndance

            Maybe there can be an entire debate with Romney “Past” and Romney “Present”? Then watch the idiots at FOX try to explain why everyone should vote for him!

          • lana ward

            The teleprompter in chief won’t have a teleprompter, I don’t think. Hopefully thoughts from his heart will come out again as they did when he said, you didn’t build that

      • Peoples425

        Unless you are making over 250,000 annually then your taxes are not going to increase under a persisting Obama administration. Considering that the past 2.5 years, we’ve had consistent job growth, it would disprove your theory that we are losing jobs under Obama. Considering that job losses were to the tune of 750,000 a month under Bush, I’d say that we’re doing pretty well. Given the futility of your argument, I’ll close by wishing you a good day.

        • lana ward

          Wait until the debates–you have a good day too

          • Peoples425

            Lol… I’ll have a bowl of popcorn ready. I can’t wait to see how Mitt will continue to stick his foot in his mouth. It’s painstakingly obvious to everyone with half a brain that Mitt is a moron and is only in this for the money that the rich are lining his pockets with.

          • lana ward

            Did your popcorn taste good? Who stuck his foot in his mouth? What a bumbler when his teleprompter isn’t there telling him what to say.

          • Peoples425

            Popcorn tasted pretty good… I was laughing quite a bit at Romney’s answers considering they contained absolutely no answers and whatever responses he had about his own plan were contradictory toward his stance. He may have been aggressive, but he said a whole lot last night to say absolutely nothing. Please take off the blinders.

          • CAThinker

            Wow – I’m glad it wasn’t just me… I was impressed with NitMitt’s proactivity, but everything he said contradicted what he’s been saying the last two months (and of course everything he said the last two months contradicted what he said the three months before…) All I could think while I was watching him speak was that he was lying his *ss off… But then again he has a strong propensity for pandering to the crowd and this time the crowd was everybody. I think Lehrer did a terrible job moderating and lost control early… but I hope that Obama is more forceful and calls him out of each of his contradictions next time… It’s still the same old NitMitt… whichever that one is… what a dirtbag…

          • Peoples425

            No, anyone with a measurable amount of intellect is able to discern between the BS so it’s not just you. Both had some moments of levity with the truth, but it seemed Romney flipped his stance again with much of his position so it’s hard to find a consistent base that he’s supporting.
            Lehrer did a horrendous job of moderating the debate and was often “over-talked” by Romney and a couple of times by President Obama. I think that the president played it too cool and should’ve called Romney out for the lies and position flips that he made during the debate.

  • Edsanjuan

    Owebama leading Romney among small business owners??!!!
    Bwwwwwwaaaaa, haaa, haaa, haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!
    This prostitute of a “reporter”, Henry Decker, will say ANYTHING, no matter how false or far-fetched, to make Odumbo look good !!
    Do you think that a majority of small business owners are STUPID ??!!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/KWXWFAGH5VQ43ATYST6AWEBFSE Wokeup flared up

      Only if they think M&R is going to be good for them.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y4ZDB2PEBKOYCFTDDMIFZVRU4E ANN

      You cry like a baby…I expect that from Mitt

      • Edsanjuan

        Annie: Do you want to know who is really going to cry like a baby on Nov 6th??
        You blind, useful idiots, liberal Lefties and your leader Obozo, that’s who !!
        Just wait ….

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZYLS3QMN3LXPGQNQHSSR5Y4YDA Lee

    In the last few weeks, Mr. Romney, with all due respect, has shown he is not Presidential material, not only in respecting ALL the American people but also in International Affairs, he has been a complete disaster. He scares me when it comes to the Middle East. Heck, if he gets elected, we’ll be in a full scale war on January 21, 2013.

    • Consideration1

      It is easy for Romney to love WAR he & none of his sons would never have to fight. No they would gladly send the poor sons of the middle class. The the 1% would enjoy the spoils.

  • ChristoD

    The USS Romney has hit an iceberg (how appropriate, it matches his ‘plastic, icey’ personality) and is sinking fast. I can’t wait for the hate mongers on FOX talking heads programs to dial up the OUTRAGEOUS rhetoric that they will jam down their lemmings throats. It is going to get uglier by the day on the part of the outraged right.

  • ChristoD

    Oh and AGAIN they will blame the lamestream media even though the Mittster actually SAID what HE said. Sad excuses for human beings living in this wonderful country that they are trying to turn into a right wing autherian kingdom.

  • Deskjet

    Romney is not a Politician!!! or should I say he is!!!
    Politician: a seeker or holder of public office, who is more concerned about winning favor or retaining power than about maintaining principles.

  • CitizenWhy

    Someone needs to create a new film genre called PoliPorn. In this genre politicians have a sexual attraction to money and rich people.

    Typical Scene: Romney’s first week in office as President, hosting some of his billionaire backers:

    Romney” “To the American people I’m the top dog, but you know I’m still your bottom boy.”

  • CitizenWhy

    According to Romney we know live in The United States of Some Americans.

  • tolik5

    Elect Barack HUSSEIN Obama, who ALL his pre-presidential life associated himself almost exclusively with his radical islamists and socialists mentors, and watch as this country irreversibly transforms into N. Korea or Lybia. Barack Hussein Obama and his voter fraud machine will make sure that 2016 elections will be like in Russia or Cuba, with no real choice. And like Cubans or N. Koreans you’ll won’t be able to go back to what you’ve lost. They fought and died for Obama-like leaders, whose real face they discovered when it was too late.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/3J6OEWYHKZIJQD5X4CJCRJTKPE Patricia

      I think you are off your meds.

      • seagazer101

        His tinfoil hat just slipped, is all. Polish up those contact points and he’ll be good as new.

  • spgans

    AS AN 80 YEAR-OLD SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO ME THAT ME AND MY EMPLOYEES HAVE THE HEALTH CRE THEY CAN AFFORD, SO WHY WOULD I VOTE FOR ROMNEY WHO WOUL REPEAL IT, AND GIVE LEADERSHIP TO RYAN WHO IS AGAINST ANY GOVERNMENT PROGRAM EXCEPT THE ONES HE CAN GET A PIECE OF FOR HIS DISTRICT

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/3J6OEWYHKZIJQD5X4CJCRJTKPE Patricia

    The Republicans in the Senate have filibustered virtually every jobs bill that Obama/Democrats have tried to pass, including: The Small Business Jobs and Tax Relief Act, The Bring Jobs Home Act and the American Jobs Act. The economy would be in much better shape if they had been passed according to many economists. It’s no wonder small business owners are for President Obama.

  • lana ward

    Romney will help small businesses–they built that. Obama will put small businesses out of business because– you didn’t build that

    • seagazer101

      Horse crap.

      • lana ward

        obama crap

  • http://twitter.com/cleanblackmanjr James Mcclendon,jr

    I work hard everyday! i pay my taxes on time every year, i haven’t taken a vacation in two years, yet mr rumney thinks i’m a freeloader because i voted for the PRESIDENT. I take great offence to being labeled, and put in a box! if mitt had my best intrest at heart, i would have concidered voting for him.

  • nomaster

    A lot of lip service is given to large corporations about creating jobs for americans but large corporations do not create the majority of jobs. Jobs are created at the small business level and the government needs to provide the opportunity for these businesses to grow. Romney cries that he will help small business however he is set to guarentee the majority of support for corporations and large investers. Willard the Rat man already condemned everyone that has to struggle and rely on government to help them survive. Who could honestly believe that this out of touch aristocrat would care about peons.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    Considering all the tax breaks and incentives given to small business owners as part of President Obama’s stimulus package this should not surprise anyone.

  • lana ward

    Why didn’t the dems mention John Kerry’s wealth when he was running for President? He is more wealthy than Romney( but he didn’t earn his money, it is his wifes) No one said he couldn’t relate to the poor. Yea, why wasn’t John Kerry’s wealth mentioned?

    • seagazer101

      Who cares?

      • lana ward

        I didn’t care and I’m a Republican. But boy that’s all the dems talk about is Romneys wealth. Why didn’t dems talk about Kerrys wealth?

        • Edsanjuan

          lana ward: You see ?!! You ask these IDIOTS, Obozo wannabes, an intelligent, VALID question: “Why didn’t dems talk about Kerry’s wealth?”….
          …. and the profound answers are: “Who cares?”, “Horse Crap”, “what planet are you from?”, etc., etc.
          These liberal, useful idiots, Lefties are all complete MORONS who cannot even “sound” intelligent !!
          Pathetic ….

  • montanabill

    I got a poll taken among a few of my peers that says your poll is a hoot!

    • seagazer101

      Try putting that in your checking account.

      • montanabill

        Are you trying to me and other business owners that Obama is responsible for putting something in our checking accounts?

  • fwcoblejr

    Each male member of my family; myself, my brother, my father, and both grandfathers each own their own business. That is 5 different, completely unrelated enterprises each with employees. All 5 of us hire employees based on consumer demand for our respective products and never make such a decision based on the tax code, federal or state. To all republicans I must spoil your party and your assumptions; each of us will be voting for President Obama as will our spouses ( 5 more votes, just in case some have problems with the arithmetic). Ten independent business owners voting for Obama!

  • lebh

    Well said, but looking at 413nat37′s other comments, I think your logic will be lost on him.

  • fwcoblejr

    Thanks lebh, and yes, you’re right….but it sure felt good typing it!

  • Peoples425

    Because John Kerry wasn’t the strongest candidate to begin with and therefore had other character faults that out-shined his wealth so it wasn’t necessarily attacked. Mitt is attacking much of the country using his wealth as his base as opposed to showing his charitable and inclusive nature toward ALL Americans instead of just the rich.

  • Peoples425

    Considering that this isn’t the 2004 election cycle, I don’t see why this question is relevant, however playing that game, Mitt is pandering toward a base of rich people with which he sides with on numerous occasions and dissociates himself from everyone else as every opportunity.

  • rlph1962

    dear lana ward get your head out of your butt relized the replubicans always been for people like you .

  • http://www.facebook.com/gordonsr.2 Michael W. Gordon Sr.

    Mitt Romney, doesn’t care nothing about the small business’s of the United State Of America, he doesn’t Care whether that live or Die, I am not sorry , that I am saying this , because it is a fact. Romney you are on the wrong (Planet) Mars, and Venus, is waiting for you… Americans are seeing you ,for just the top of person you are; America is for All the People, that means white, black hispanic, asian, native american. This beautiful Country, is for everybody, but we understand, because you are from another planet… Oooopsss did say that!!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/gordonsr.2 Michael W. Gordon Sr.

    The Comment you see below that is me, I just don’t (sign in) sorry I don’t want you to think I’m from a differ planet.. Ooopss, not like Mitt Romney.. This is a true saying, give a person enough Rope and the Will Hang them Self…

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/XIZN7RDZ4K5UZTH7JD24IPSN3A Mohave Bob

    This is crap. I wouldn’t vote for obama no mater what. His energy policies, pro union policies, healthcare laws are all anti small business. If you cant see that you must not have a very successful business.

    Healthcare – if you have a business with over 50 peeps, and you provide them with health insurance, and just one person qualifies for federal healtcare subsidies, your business pays the $2000 penalty for every employee!!

    If you are a business with over 50 peeps, the penalty for not providing healthcare is CHEAPER than providing healtch care!!

    IT IS RIGGED TO BECOME a single opayer system controlled by the government! That is why Obama spent all his political capital in his first 2 years, with a democratic congress and senate, to pass obamacare.

    He doesnt give a crap about jobs, or you or me! it’s all about propogating power for the democratic party, PERIOD!!

    • seagazer101

      I think you must have slipped when you wrote the above; you really meant to say Romney doesn’t give a crap about any of us unless we fit into his income bracket. I’m also afraid you don’t understand the Affordable Care Act. You must have gotten your info on that from Fox News. Too bad. Try an unbiased source sometime.

      • Edsanjuan

        seagazer: As always, you are staring at the sea and can’t even think right. 1) Seems to me that Mohave Bob knows much more than you about the so-called “Affordable (gimme a break !) Care Act”.
        2) Bob, this guy is recommending you try “… an unbiased source sometime”.
        He must mean Mother Earth; THAT’S as unbiased as they come !! ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, haaaaaaaa!!!!
        P.S. – Bob, do try also MSLSD, er, I mean, er, MSNBC. That’s also “unbiased”!
        Oh, brother …

  • 1mrmonty

    The GOP is totally out of touch with the whole country, That is not counting the 1% of the multi millionaires & billionaires that they only wish to represent.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/V4O5VTGKNFSZ3H2GCM4OENUXAU Elijah o. Ombongi

    Recent demands by the Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyau to meet with President obama during his visist to the US in the coming weeks is disingenuous in away.The much publicised views that President Obama has refused to meet Bibi Netanyau during his visit to the US next month are designed to portray President Obama as anti-Israel in an effort to boost Mitt Romney’s chances to win the general elections. What Bibi Netanyau has failed to take note of is that, the demographics do not favour his antics. Most of the US population is tired of wars orchestrated by Israel against its perceived enemies. The cost of those wars in terms of US citizens and allied forces human lives, the economy and other unforseen and untold costs are immense,, and Israel never loses anything in those wars. Netanyau accuses Iran and the Iranian leadership of being unstable and unpredictable. He has used this argument over and over again, first against Iraq and now against Iran. This warmongering has helped Netanyau to hold a firm grip on Israel leadership for years. Once Netanyau senses defeat at home he starts drumming for war with some imaginary enemy. In this way he is seen as a strong defender of Israel. Netanyau has even shown the world that he has no respect for President Obama by disagreeing with the President publicly. This is a clear indication that it is Netanyau who is an extremist, unstable and more unpredictable than the Iranian regime he accuses. It is very clear to all and sundry that Bibi Netanyau favours Mitt Romney to President Obama and he is doing every thing he can to help Mitt Romney in his campaign. But this is interference of internal affairs of the US domestic issues by a foreign power. How would the Israels and Netanyau in particluar take it if say; a leader of another country for example Germany or France were to intervene in Israel internal politics? Why is Netanyau so desperate to get Mitt Romney elected President of the United States? The answer is simple. So that he can dictate Mitt Romney to attack Iran as soon as possible which President Obama has refused to do.

  • oldtack

    Your Party worships the god of Mammon and filthy lucre. My GOD is the great I AM Supreme Being – The Creator.

    your god is money and greed – all of Satan.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/YS2TEKIDWOLQH6FLUOQCFTLZSE Robert

    There is middle class and a under class, all who vote .Mitt lies to these groups and we know it. And his VP will he just does’nt care and he lets us know. So how can they win.

  • highpckts

    Wasn”t Bush’s fault?? Where have you been??? I don’t see how you can say that with a straight face! Total denial!!

    • Edsanjuan

      highpckts: After 7 consecutive INANE posts, …. your slip is showing, …. a LOT !!

  • highpckts

    Oh my God!! You are totally oblivious to what’s going on!! Pure brainwashing!

  • highpckts

    Well we all know how Romney talks in private and without a teleprompter!!

  • highpckts

    Communist channel?? Now I know for sure you don’t live in the USA!! What a fear monger!!

  • highpckts

    Sweetie, you will not in your lifetime ever see the debt go down with the Republicans in office!!

  • highpckts

    Oh and a bigot on top of ignorant!!

  • stanran15

    If you want our country to be literally destroyed, then vote for “for the Mit which doesn’t fit”. His record for outsourceing jobs to China is impeccable.

  • Kurt CPI

    As a small business owner, and through my association with other small business owners, I can tell you this is wishful thinking. Yes, “small” business includes those with millions of dollars in capitalization, but that’s not Romney’s definition – those lines have been continuously redrawn as the money supply has expanded over decades. I can tell you the things that push small business owners toward Romney are the monthly payouts to support the behemoth government programs that Mr. Obama continually increases, and regulations that really, really do make doing business within the parameters of regulations stacked upon regulations one of the biggest drains on a small business owner’s time. Every time the governmet grows (adds an employee, increases spending … you name it) it comes at the expense of private sector business and their employees. There is exactly one way to stimulate the economy and be prosperous, and that is to generate domestic product. Policies that work against this surely take us in the opposite direction – it’s not rocket science, it’s high school math. Taking more money from small businesses to pay for “jobs programs” (make no mistake, these are either government jobs that produce no product and generate no revenue, or government subsidies/incentives that cover the cost of more private sector employees) will not solve any problems.

  • geewilly

    I am a small business owner and I pay 100% of the health insurance for my employees. They can pay the additional for a “family” plan but in order to keep my business running smoothly, I need healthy, long term employees. No small OR large business can run smoothly when the labor force must constantly be re-trained. Keeping my employees healthy keeps my business running smoothly and it makes employees faithful and happy to work for me. Try it.. you might just be surprised. Go Obama!

  • http://www.facebook.com/robert.benefiel.77 Robert Benefiel

    Actually, small business owners have been most hurt by the globalization of the economy which has helped multi-national corporations. Most of the talk by Republicans is regarding assistance to large corporations and tax plans that help the very rich and not the smaller business owners. The Republicans keep advancing plans for the rich and powerful and appeal to the smaller businessmen and women that they plans will help them when in true their plans have been devastating to them.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NOWA3E42LRZ6VRAFALDFUL4IWM Foot

    th SBA helped many of these people get a start when they asked their gov. to beleave in them. oh no Mitt called them leeches upon the gov. we all depend on the gov. in one way or another. i mean who do we turn to for food safety (FDA) or protection from enemies foreign and domestic (FBI /Army/Navy/Air Force/Marines and every police officer in our system). we are the goverment working for the benifit of all people. we help each other and need each others help we are America and Mitt look out ’cause we are not for sale !!

  • oldtack

    edsanjuan
    Haven’t seen you on here for awhile. So – may I say- Touche! Good retort. Of course I don’t agree – except for Obozo and Montana. But – good retort just the same.
    Have a good day ed

    • Edsanjuan

      oldtack: If you are sincere, and I think you are, you just made my day !
      Have a good day yourself, oldtack.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Sam-Brees/100001353990206 Sam Brees

    This thing seems to be going so well for our President that it scares me. At this point the Repugs are probably regreting they didnt pick Santorum.

  • Edsanjuan

    Justin: I have never touched dope or drugs of any kind. However, the size and condition of your brain confirms that you have had plenty…. going as far back as when LSD was the rage (look what it did to you, man !)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/IIAFAK62EMBFOLOX76RKHIW7TA Gilbert

    The argument that President Obama’s tax policies would harm small business owners was a phony argument to begin with. A Sole Proprietorship, would suffer, and the Pass-through business entitites don’t provide enough bang for the tax buck. In this day and time, a small business should be operating as a C-Corporation, in order to take advantage of the full panoply of tax-deductions, including health & dental insurance, that are available to those utilizing this particular business entity. There is more paper-work, for sure! But so what! The benefits make it all worth while. You only pay taxes on profits!!! There are a thousand and one ways to shelter would-be profits from taxation and to save on a tax deferred basis. If Romney were an honest businessman, he would share some of these strategies with the unenlightened. But… He will never do that. He enjoys the chasm between the “haves” and the “have-nots” far too much to reveal anything useful. Besides, being able to look-down upon and berate the less fortunate at fun-raisers gives him something to talk about.

  • David_of_Hawaii

    Romney is now aiming his “Campaign” for the “100%” but if he becomes president, his “Presidential payback” will be for the “2%”

  • David_of_Hawaii

    The way to prove the “Pea Sized Brain” dispute is to see who shops at ChinaMart. Obviously, if you only buy “CHEAP” Chinese products, then YOU ARE THE ONES WHO CREATE THE JOBS IN CHINA. Even if you pay a little more for US made products, then you are creating US jobs, which are not subsidized by the government like the Chinese ones often are, or by people making only 50 cents an hour or child labor.

    • CAThinker

      Amen!!! And yes, I purposefully look for and buy American – it’s my little way of making sure the jobs stay here. It usually costs a little more, but not that much more really and to know that my dollar will get recycled as dollars to be used here, makes me feel a little better about spending the extra money. And because I do that, I did have a problem with the Olympic team uniforms being made in China – really? You have an American iconic brand, clothing the US Olympic team and the uniforms are made in China??? You mean you couldn’t find a clothing company here to do that? Anyway, can you imagine if all Americans focused on buying American? We could dig ourselves out of this mess without the grief of Washington gridlock… Screw China and their products! Buy American!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X2KKGDYW2F5T5XUT6233KBNWSI robert

    Small business owners are the businesses hiring unemployed Americans. They are the unnoticed ones who are carrying the burden of keeping Americans employed, providing a service, and staying “in” America and contributing to the American Ideal. Unlike their larger, wealthier cousins, corporations and industries, who outsource their businesses and return their products to America for Americans to purchase, small businesses can proudly say “Made In America by Americans”. The media don’t accentuate this fact. Many small business owners are the middle class, and they are under attack by Romney/Ryan, super PACs, corporations, and industries to take over their businesses to complete the destruction of America. The ones who are for Romney/Ryan are hoping to be bought out by corporations and industries so that they too can be millionaires and billionaires. But,it’s a false hope. The way it works is to buy them out, keep them out, and force them to spend to survive, and soon, they too will be back in that 47% like the rest of us. It’s called “usury”. Look it up.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/47UD7UZ7UQ5IK3EO3BBZAS63IM Eduardo

    john: What do you mean “wrong again”?
    Do you deny that you have a cellmate? He is going to get mad at you !

    I don’t think that Florida jail where you reside would give you a private cell. … that’s because they have to “save” space for Owebama, Eric and Janet in 2013 …
    P.S. – Don’t worry, john, I promise to write soon (but NOT visit you …)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/47UD7UZ7UQ5IK3EO3BBZAS63IM Eduardo

    john: Yes, I DO “run rings” around you and around any other useful IDIOT like you.
    Yes, I do; Yes, I do !!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_G6ONLFDHRWXQI3KHXIO3MQB5TM roberte

    This should be no surprise to anyone except Republicans who who seem to have slept through our frustratingly slow, but steady recovery. I think they expected to win by running a campaign based on their version of recent events. A version that has little basis in reality. Their only valid point seems to be that Obama didn’t clean this up fast enough to suit them and that obstructionism didn’t work as well as they had hoped.

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  • http://twitter.com/homeninspired Home And Inspired

    There is a pattern here the President leads with mostly all groups with the exception of white males. This tells me that the 2010 mid terms caught the dems sleeping..Unlike Boehner and the republicans may want you to think the American people did not give them a mandate. They were not doing what the public wanted them to do.

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