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Monday, March 19, 2018

The pretend ‘War on Christmas‘ is even more contentious than usual this year.

As Rush Limbaugh was busy lecturing the Pope on the true meaning of Christianity, the National Republican Congressional Committee decided to remove a shirt that mocked liberals for saying “Happy Holidays,” after being reminded — possibly by House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) — that not everyone in America is Christian. And Sarah Palin’s screed on the sanctity of Christmas was outsold online on Black Friday by comic Rob Delaney’s intentionally funny new book.

But there’s still time for Warriors for Christmas to battle back.

To help in the never-ending effort to defend the nation’s most popular and least threatened holiday, the American Family Association has issued a helpful “Naughty or Nice?” list of the friends and enemies of Christmas.

Naughty or Nice

The blue companies are “5-star” rated companies, and according to the site, deserving of your support. The “5-star” rating is especially impressive given that none of the other ratings involve any stars at all.

Green is “Christmas friendly.” I call the yellow companies “Christmas curious,” meaning they’re only exploring their pro-Christmas leanings. Red, ironically, is used to denote companies that are “against” Christmas. One retailer, Radio Shack, is even worthy of a boycott because they’ve repeatedly “censored” the word Christmas.

The American Family Association also brings you the radio show of Bryan Fischer, the organization’s Director of Issue Analysis for Government and Public Policy. Fischer, a regular denizen of Henry Decker’s This Week In Crazybelieves homosexuality is caused by Satan, Ted Cruz is a modern version of the prophet Elijah and Islam should be banned, at least at the state level.

Screenshot via the American Family Association website

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196 Responses to The Far Right Issues Its ‘War On Christmas’ Enemies List

  1. I suspect the belief in the ‘war on Christmas’ is directly proportional to the extent a person believes christian mythology deserves a privileged place in American society.

    • Exactly. The Christmas trees were up in the parking lot of our local mall the week before Thanksgiving, not to mention the Christmas songs playing in the background.

      • How horrible! boycott those stores playing Christmas music. Next thing you know, they’ll be serving up “Christmas” cookies and eggnog and wishing everyone peace on Earth. They must be stopped!

      • Irrelevant misdirection. Dan Savage doesn’t decide whether or not your town hangs up Christmas lights and decorations from lampposts.

          • Hm. Don’t know any Hussein Obama. Further, what does this persons half brother have to do with anything? Oh, that’s right. You’re just an angry cracker with entirely too much time on their hands … well, you keep digging in the pond scum where you reside, sport.

          • you call someone a name? that’s your argument? hahahaha! Good argument which proves IN NO WAY that obama has credibility- that was the original point………duh!

          • If course you don’t! You dont have any argument for any one. You got a big bag of nothing What a dope. Deflect from the fact you can’t formulate an answer by throwing out a lame insult. Good one ( eyeroll) typical alinsky dullard

          • what is made up”? that he bows down and panders to muslim extremists that vow to annihilate our allies and us, and who also deny the holocaust? Did I make up the fact that he is arming the muslim brotherhood in Egypt and giving them our $$$ while 47 million people here are on food stamps because he ‘s too busy to focus on jobs like a laser beam? Did I make up the whole moving red line obama bluff buffoonery that was called by Syria and had Putin saving his sorry a$$? yep all made up………..sure sure…… have some koolaid……..bleat on .. bleat on

          • Bows and panders? Give names and sources please. You think someone will buy into your b.s. just because you wrote it down? Your lack of cogent thinking is obvious. Guess if you run out of toilet paper it will be commie obummer`s fault.
            Your perceptions are dulled by your paranoia.

          • wow, no comprehension skills at all.. I just gave names. reread my post and tell me which ones are lies. It is cruel for me to bother replying to you again and it is a boring waste of my time having to explain posts over and over again when you don’t even post coherent ones in the first place. People like you remind me that we do need a solid safety net because otherwise you would starve. You clearly are confused and lack the simple brain function needed to support and feed yourself. As for toilet paper ………check this out. 😉

          • Get a life! You are really a top-notch idiot. Pulling remarks out of your ass and implicating you gave me names of the “muslims” and generic and collective nouns and vasts amounts of money being “given” to enemies. What poison are you filling your brain with? And who the hell gave you permission to send me what appears to be a leg of someone on the john (yours?)? Just as much as you want to send a gross picture, so much of your “credibility” is in the crapper so to say. Get out of yourself.

          • keep up the fight for mental health………. maybe someday you’ll be able to compose a coherent post…..

          • You are a clown at heart! Anyone who talks like a fool will be taken for one. Commenting as you have on my mental state only makes me question yours. Your grandiose remarks and unsubstantiated comments remind me of the fool Cruz. Green eggs and Ham indeed…to the tune of 24 billion. Now there is a fact you can check for yourself. Cry baby!

          • just because you say a comment is unsubstantiated, doesn’t mean it is so….you are just too stupid or lazy to try to actually read what a post says or look something up. that’s ok, obozo will tell you what you are supposed to think. You’re dismissed.

          • Yeah. I say your remarks are subjective and unsubstantiated and you haven’t obviously heard of deductive reasoning or the scientific method. Why? Because you are a pompous asshole. Give your brain to the Tea Bags and the Koch brothers. Pity!

          • you are confusing me with someone who likes to read your vapid blather………from my last post: “dismissed”


            order or allow to leave; send


            treat as unworthy of serious

            there ya go…………..understand now?

            Merry Christmas!

          • There are people, claiming to be Christians, who cause people to hate Christians. When Jesus was asked who was righteous, the reply was no not one. Remember, people claiming to be Christian, lynched on Saturday and passed the plate in church on Sunday. Don’t forget the Spanish inquisition, the French inquisition and the Mountain Meadow Massacre. Oh, and there was Cotton Mather and the Puritans hanging 29 people for being witches.

          • yes, it is someone else’s fault YOU hate. It is someone else’s fault that people kill other people. it is someone else’s fault kids are playing the “knockout ” game. it is someone else’s fault if you don’t succeed, SORRY, your bad behaviour and/or failures and your hate for someone is your own response to what is placed in front of you. If you hate, then you are dealing with things poorly and judging the actions of one or more persons to justify your painting an entire group of people as being the same way. That is also a part of racism and bigotry. People are people, there are good and bad in all races, religion, gender etc etc….. quit labelling and trying to rationalize your hate. Hate is ugly, Don’t be ugly,.;-)

          • Certainly, today’s liberalism is impelled by the same death force as its marxist, socialist, and communist ancestors.

  2. I believe The war on Christmas was invented by marketing strategists, as a solution
    to the slowdown in sales of the usual assortment of hate filled Right Wing cash cows. Like, “Our Government is Pure Evil. And Other Reasons I Love America!” At a time of the year when even the most hard core ideologues, were putting their politics aside for the moment. And were concentrating on the joy, goodwill, and generosity of spirit engendered by the holiday season. Well, problem solved!

    • Personally, I believe the “war on Christmas” was invented by the Far Right as a means of reminding their “Christian” supporters that they are the only ones fighting for fair wages, uh, for good jobs, uh, for decent education, uh, for health care, uh, for – oh, forget it. They are doing it because they claim to be the only “REAL” Christians in the country, DAMMIT!

      • Also, they have always had to have a war. That’s what chickenhawks do. It’s been that way almost forever. The faux war on Christmas is just a cry for attention for the likes of Palin and O’Reilly, hoping to hype their agenda. Celebrate the birth of Christ with joy as we always do, and always will. If one doesn’t believe, then don’t join in. Simple as that.

  3. I far more concerned about the war on Thanksgiving. With “Christmas friendly” retailers like Walmart choosing to stay open on Thanksgiving, the relevance of Thanksgiving as a national Holiday is more diminished than ever – especially for those employees who are “asked” to work during the Holiday. But usurping other celebrations is a tactic as old as Christianity.

  4. I worked for Wal-mart last holiday season and they let all the seasonal employees go 4 days before Christmas. How is that Christmas Friendly?

    • It’s all about priorities. Unfortunately, the people who made this list only care about one thing: Did the employees say Merry Christmas, and not Happy Holidays. Funny about that list, b/c more than half of those companies on it say Happy Holidays, not Merry Christmas.

      • And if a store is in a Jewish or Muslim area, isn’t it much more aware to say Happy Holidays rather than Merry Christmas? Or should they say Happy Ramadan and Happy Chanukah, too? Can you expect a busy clerk to size up a customer, guess what their religious preference is, then tailor it to every individual? I guess these nuts do expect that. Or they think that because THEY are Christian, everybody should observe that.

        • Actually Hanakkah ends Dec 8 2013 and Ramadan was in August. Don’t jump down my throat but! correct me if I am wrong please, I think this year Christmas is the only holiday that falls in the last 3/4 of December 2013. So, Merry Christmas is appropriate. My muslim and jewish friends wish me both greetings at once if they fall around the same time. They don’t make as big a deal of it as some folks do. 😉

          • And Hannukkah won’t be this early again for 75,000 years. Now, it appears this bears reposting:

            1. Not all holidays around this time of year are Christian (ie, Hanukkah – Jewish; Yule – Paganism; Kwanzaa – Pan-African; Soyal – Zuni and Hopi Indians; Pancha Ganapati – Hindu, etc. – I can list a sh*tload more if you’d like) ;

            2. The Christian religon has more than enough recognition (more than all other religions combined) as it is only Christian feast days that are Federal holidays (ie, Christmas, Good Friday).

          • yes, the Democrats will decide how much Christianity will be allowed.. Sounds like dhimmitude. Would you like those Christians to pay a jizya tax? talk about prigs……look in the mirror. Liberals want to make all the rules, cause they know best…. I say Merry Christmas to you. Blessings! Shalom Aleichem…… may now spontaneously combust…. I know it’s horrible to hear Merry Christmas, next thing you know they’ll be saying “Peace on Earth and goodwill to all men”…… can’t have that. Have some rumcake, it’ll be over soon enough, Hope you got the “holiday” presents you wanted…….;-)

          • Saying “Peace on Earth and goodwill to all men” is a lie. It should be “Peace on Earth and goodwill to all geriatric old men and their bootlickers”. That is what the GOP type of Christian really means.

          • well, why don’t we ask Reggie Love what liberals say about licking boots? yes, i know, that comment was almost as stupid as yours…….just showing you how idiotic your little hissy fit was..too bad the entire comment thread went right over your skull full of brown stuff. Keep judging, and Merry Christmas Mr. Wiseguy. Shalom. Blessings, Happy belated Hanukka, Happy Kwanzaa………… you may now spontaneously combust………3..2..1….. ;-).

          • Not combusted yet. Did Jesus tell you that would happen?

            Do you think everyone who disagrees with you is having a “hissy fit”

            it seems like the only one having a hissy fit is you.

          • Never said hearing Merry Christmas makes my head explode … just your fertile imagination, son. Further, I never claimed that I wanted to make all the rules. Christians like you have the martyrdom syndrome down to a science. I could careless what one says however, I do take issue with Christians clutching their pearls over a non-issue … I merely pointed out that there are other religions out there that have holidays in and around the same time as Christmas. If you can’t accept, in reality, it isn’t just about Christianity, that would be a personal problem for your and those of your ilk.
            It must be positively exhausting for you to constantly play the victim in an imaginary “war” … take a breather, son, there are more important things in real life than what you imagine there are.

          • An Christian is one who puts his hand in the hand of the man who stilled the water. He walks with Jesus. He uses Jesus for a yardstick to measure his own behavior by. He is filled with love. None of that describes the infant.

          • Did you forget New Year’s Eve? The Best reason to say Happy Holidays is that it covers Christmas & New Year’s; but then usually Chanukah falls in December, as doe Kwanzaa, and the Solstice. Just with everyone a joyous holiday season!

          • Sorry but mr wiseguy was harshin’ my mellow. I love New Year’s Eve., and Ramadan was in August, Kwanzaa starts on Boxing day , Dec 26th. for those crazy kids who celebrate that. I cannot remember them all sometimes there are so many, Good Times. Yes joyous for everyone…….Happy Holidays

      • Yep! that’s what seasonal means. I guess if those employees were liberals, they have a “right” to the hours they want and they want you to say “Happy Holidays” but will use “Christmas” if it is to bash you because they got laid off 4 days before the “holiday” they don’t want you speaking of. Bottom line is these are businesses, not yet owned by the gov’t so they actually have to have a budget and try to make a profit. Obama isn’t giving them wads of our cash like he did with Solyndra etc. It’s called hyprocrisy, carol9.

          • solyndra was not priceless…….it actually sucked a HALF BILLION DOLLARS of taxpayer $$$ Here ‘s some more of obama’s wise green energy INVESTMENTS he scrooged us all for.
            Evergreen Solar ($25 million)* SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
            ($535 million)*
            Beacon Power ($43 million)*
            Nevada Geothermal
            ($98.5 million)
            SunPower ($1.2 billion)
            First Solar ($1.46
            Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
            EnerDel’s subsidiary
            Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
            Amonix ($5.9 million)
            Fisker Automotive
            ($529 million)
            Abound Solar ($400 million)*
            A123 Systems ($279
            Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
            Controls ($299 million)
            Schneider Electric ($86 million)

            Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
            ECOtality ($126.2 million)
            Technologies ($33 million)*
            Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3
            Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
            Olsen’s Crop Service
            and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
            Range Fuels ($80
            Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
            Stirling Energy
            Systems ($7 million)*
            Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
            Vestas ($50 million)
            LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power
            ($151 million)
            Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
            Navistar ($39
            Satcon ($3 million)*
            Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20
            Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
            HO HO HO! Merry Christmas Obama………………….

          • It is a list of taxpayer $$ given or “loaned” to faltering or bankrupt energy companies. Brightsource was added to my list when they appeared to be faltering. I have removed it. bumpy times not unusual for any company and it is important to update lists like this from time to time.

          • They did pull back an IPO a while back but not because they were doing bad but because IPOs in general were not working when the economy was really bad. I like their concept of mirrors as opposed to actual solar panels plus the fact they can store power.

            It is too bad so many of these companies are failing, using power from the sun is a fantastic idea for clean energy. Somebody has to come up with a way to do it cost effectively. I can’t blame Obama for trying but too many are failing.

          • Just thinking out loud, but I was in Israel in October, they all have these (not so pretty looking) solar energy collector barrels on the roofs of their homes and apartments.
            They contain solar energy for heating water and are much more cost efficient than those made here. Have to admit I don’t know much about these solar boilers, and correct me if I am wrong, but maybe we need to do some brainstorming with our allies and make our green energy a little more affordable and make theirs nicer to look at . Well, this is something else I need to read up on apparently. Just need a few more hours in a day and less sleep, maybe if I cut back to 4 hours of sleep instead of 5?

          • now look what you did, you got an upvote from me and idamag at the same time. That never happens. I knew you were trouble. 😉

    • you don’t want them saying Merry Christmas, but you want them to be “Christmas” friendly……can’t have it both ways. Merry Hypocrisy!!!! HO HO HO!

      • Walmart never greets with Merry Christmas, I always here happy Holidays. Why are they on the “good” list? Because they paid to be. Simple as that. Why don’t you get riled up about real problems instead of imagined ones. Why do you Christians always claim to want free will and then try to impose your ways on others?

        • I am not the one who is riled up. It’;s liberals who want to silence Christians and especially conservative ones. No one has to shop at Walmart or anywhere else if they don’t like it.
          “you Christians” very nice. Who said I was a Christian?
          Does one have to be a Christian to stick up for Christians? does one have to be a fetus to stick up for one? And why don’t you boycott Walmart if you think they don’t pay enough.. why make their greedy owners richer? Better yet, why not open a competing store and pay your employees $15.00 per hour and keep the prices the same as at Walmart…..Quit trying to impose your assumptions and ways on me…….I was merely commenting in that post about a disgruntled employee whining about being hired as seasonal at walmart who does not say Merry Christmas and they laid him off (seasonal-duh) 4 days before Christmas. he complained that wasn’t Christmas-like.. maybe they laid him off cause he’s such a dullard he knows not what “seasonal”: work means.., sheeesh

          • I don’t care what greeting is used. I am not the one pushing for it to be one way or the other. It is people like you who are chest thumping and screaming about it.

            Where did I mention about pay levels at Walmart? My point about Walmart is that they are completely un-Christian in their behavior yet make the good list. Only because of money they pay to the corrupt AFA. What would Jesus say about this?

            And it is a reasonable assumption you are a Christian or at least raised as one even if your views are un-Jesus-like. Your statement about the fetus in particular. You lot are all OK with killing those who are already alive but go all out to “save” a bunch of parasitic cell clusters. No one forces people to have an abortion but you and your ilk want to force people to not be able to get one.

          • your post IS pushing it the other way, or why would you be having a grand mal hissy fit and be puking out so many angry posts about it? Take your fight to Walmart then, who you judge to be “ANti Christian because you are equating their bad behavior with someone ‘s faith? Are they not being Anti-Muslim and Anti-HIndu as well? Please don’t try to justify killing fetuses by saying you are saving them from starving after birth. A lot of poor people don’t have enough to eat, best we off them because they will just suffer and starve to death? Bottom line is people need to take responsibility before they get pregnant. the vast majority of abortions are NOT because it would be harmful to the mother or because the pregnancy was a result of rape. Some use it as birth control and THOSE are the abortions I am most against. Do you not read posts? Do you just see someone’s name you have disagreed with in the past and just blast em no matter what the subject? it seems so, Quit generalizing subjects like abortion, medical treatment and food stamp assistance. And quit protesting so much about Christmas greetings that you say you don’t care about. As for underpaying people, why don’t you open a business to compete with walmart and pay your staff 20 bucks an hour , buy them obama care and NOT raise your prices? impossible! As for stealing, what the hell do you call taking a good chunk of someone’s pay and giving it to those who don’t want to work- AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE UNABLE TO WORK, THE SICK, THE ELDERLY, THE DISABLED- we need a safety net for those people. what do you call getting millions of Americans kicked off their health care plans and then making them pay more for the ones you force on them? As for medical treatment, obozocare is really hittin the fan, I am sure you don’t want to talk about that. You would have to live under a rock to not see the epic failure that it is and the devastating effect it will have on this weakened economy very soon……

          • Yup definitely you are definitely riled up. Continue to live in paranoia. The rest of us will enjoy our lives and not really give you a second thought.

          • Yup! Apparently it’s you mrs wise Girlyman that is riled you just blasted off three replies in a row. Relax. It’s Christmas and Kwanzaa and a few more so happy holiday to you ;-). 3 in a row !? So much for not giving me a second thought 😉

  5. How is it a War on Christmas when so called Christians are the ones making enemy lists? (Not to mention these “Christians” are the aggressors who act like every other bully when we fight back)

  6. “As Rush Limbaugh was busy lecturing the Pope on the true meaning of Christianity” This man who has been married 3 or 4 times, has no children and who is a talking whale spouting hatred, racism / bigotry out of his blow hole is telling the Pope what Christianity is. That is rich and just shows what an insufferable prig Limbaugh is. The American Family Association and Bryan Fischer has their list of Companies tat are for Christmas and they show JC Penney; weren’t they outraged when JC Penney had Ellen DeGeneres as a spokeswoman for them. They didn’t think JC Penney was very Christian oriented than, but they are now when it suits their purpose. American Family Association and Fischer, the only thing those companies care about Christmas is how many sales they will make and how it impacts their bottom line. HAPPY HOLIDAYS…..

      • prigs? oh, you mean obozo and the democrats who know what’s best for everyone…… can’t wait till his daughters join the “choom gang” At least dad will make sure they don’t get punished with a baby. Good Dad!

          • oh dear, you’re not a very clever person are you? It would be cruel for me to match wits with you as you are ill equipped in the wits department. Feel better soon ok? Shalom

          • First, puddin’ pop, you are on a public forum and despite obozo, it is still a free country, You are a racist hater? proof please? When you throw out the race card, it proves that you have no defense for the facts in front of you. It proves you are at a loss to formulate any kind of statement to try and silence the person you think is your enemy. All because I disagree with your point of view on things. tch tch tch! Sad! So I accept your surrender and I agree to disagree without having to call you a dipstick. Also, speaking of haters, that might be you. Labelling a group of people “prigs”. really? You are not the one to judge although you obviously deem yourself to be a better person than the “prigs” you speak of, so that would make you a prig. Have a nice day. Merry Christmas.

          • The more you speak, the dumber you prove to be. You obviously didn’t see the post to which I replied, or you might have understood my use of humor in my reply. I was in total agreement with the post, and responded to a person who did understand my meaning and intent. I was, of course, actually defending prigs, which by the way is a word used only in literature. I’m sure that is why you don’t understand it. As for disagreeing with you, that’s what these forums are all about, but your name calling and degradation of our twice elected president disqualifies you from civil debate. If you don’t like the ACA or helping others, just give your reasons and your alternatives. But, attack our president on a personal level, and expect to be called out for the hater that you are. Now, go away.

          • nope! not going anywhere……….. free country. open forum. and you do not make the rules for civil debate otherwise the democrats that represent you would disqualify all the liberal posters on here. Have you heard the names they throw out while “debating” in Washington? I am not saying conservatives don’t do it also, just making your hypocrisy clear,, there goes that “name calling disqualifies you” theory. And speaking of name calling, I am aware of the meaning of the word “prigs”. Perhaps those who upvoted you, all the regular far left liberals on here, misunderstood you and you should go call them names too. You obviously are one confused person. I won’t tell you to go away, I’ll just say don’t judge people. For someone who thinks name calling disqualifies you from civil debate, you use a lot of labels and names like hater, dipstick, prigs, racist, when actually no hate was spewed, there was no mention of race and you are the only one who brought up prigs in the first place. And dipstick? well, I guess if name calling is all you have, have at it Alinskyite! Shalom…..and Merry Christmas.

          • you mean like your post below which says simply “JACKASS” Thanks for proving your own point………duh! damn! so many dullards, so little time…

          • Thanks for this thoughtful and well elucidated comment. You have proven again beyond a shadow of a doubt exactly how mature and intelligent you are.

            3000 Dead Americans on 9-11

            4000 Dead American soldiers

            200,000+ dead Iraqis

            200,000+ dead Afghans

            And all infadelicious and his crows care about are Benghazi (4 dead Americans) and Solyndra. When the far right hold the white house, then killing Americans and other is OK and the jingoists cheer it on.. But if it happens on Obama’s watch they are crimes of the century.

            When it suits them, 4 dead americans are worthy of more attention than 400,000+ dead people killed by the far right.

            But as long as they protest abortion, they are pro-life right?

          • who is protesting abortion, and how many innocent people has obama killed with his drones? how many Americans have been killed since he took office? We can go tit for tat all ya want. I was talking about the article and the war on Christmas which is what it was about. i believe another poster having no argument for what I said , just spewed out” blah blah blah benghazi”, so i threw out the picture with the benghazi caption. It happens on here often. When there is not defense for the ineptness of the president, then the name calling starts –to deflect from the topic. it is very typical. no big deal. Most times it is a liberal changing the subject or making assumptions about my religion, my stance on a subject, my gender, my sexual orientation and then they just roll with it . I guess that passes for an intelligent reply. Gets a little boring when you keep pointing to bad behavior or actions from a president or party that has not been around for years to somehow justify the same or worse actions by the present admin and president. When does obama man the **** up and take responsibility?

          • LMAO … Issa the Assa has wasted so much time and money on spinning his investigations that have absolutely no basis in fact or evidence, the dumb bastard must be positively DIZZY!

    • LMAO … I had to do a double-take on that line, too. Lush Limpballs, the thriced married, oxy-contin addicted pedophile giving the Pope lectures on the true meaning of christianity … sadly, Lush is too stoned to see the irony …

      • oxy-contin? lots of people get addicted to prescription drugs, that doesn’t make it right . But I don’t recall him being in the “choom gang”

        • Rush used to constantly harp on the radio that drug addicts should be locked up forever, that they were destroying America, etc.

          When he gets busted we found not only was he addicted to the meds, but he had forged prescriptions that he used at multiple pharmacies to build a huge reserve of pills. Thousands of them. In addition to forging prescriptions, He also lied about everything related to this.

          Per his own exhortations he should have been thrown in jail and the key tossed into the Atlantic. Instead he asked and(and got) understanding by his listeners. Which proves again that Rush and his ilk do everything they say is bad, but when they do it it is understandable. For anyone else they should be punished.

          Right wingers are liars and hypocrites.

          • ok, thanks for letting me know that right wingers are liars and hypocrites. NOTED. Rush became addicted to prescription drugs as many do, Brett Favre, Betty Ford. I dont believe they did any time in jail. That does not make it right, but all they can do is try to break the habit which is difficult, it makes people do things they normally wouldn’t That is no excuse however but. they are all human. Obama had his little choom gang also as did Bill although he didn’t inhale. Those two didn’t get caught either. Who cares? you can name conservatives , i can name liberals. AS for lying, please don’t get me going on that while this admin is still in office. It would be too exhausting..Please, “right wingers are liars and hypocrites,” Both sides have too many of both. If you cannot agree on that Mr Wiseguy this exceptional country is doomed.

          • Its not the fact he took drugs. The fact is he was an addict while on his show calling for addicts to be thrown in jail forever. I am not saying Rush should have been jailed – he needed help but he is a hypocrite for proclaiming one thing and doing another.

            Obama isn’t telling America how drug addicts are the downfall of this nation and should all be jailed. So no hypocrisy.

            There are gays, women, minorities, addicts, unemployed, single parents, and a ton of other people on both sides of the aisle. But only one side condemns people for who they are and the choices people make.

          • Must be a nice little world you live in thinking that only one side condemns people for who they are. With your reasoning, it’s ok to do drugs and boink interns in the oval office as long as you’re not hypocritical about it. Gee it’s a sweet life in your bubble ain’t it? i think there are more than a few hypocrites on both sides of the aisle, it’s just that you won’t admit it , but condemn the other side for having hypocrites on it, hmmm. that sounds…………yes, hypocritical..

        • Yes. Oxy-contin. I.e. drug which the fat ass was addicted to while slamming others addicted to drugs. Did I stutter?
          You need to get out more, son. The Dominican Republic is well known as a haven for vacationing pedophiles … like fat, disgusting, oxy-contin addicted radio “personalities” who travel there (and not in the presence of female, or male for that matter, companions) with unprescribed vials and vials of Viagra … LMAO.

          • You seem to know a lot about pedophiles and drugs and that whole scene. If that’s what “getting out more” means ill leave you to it. Have at it libs Here is a tip for you too. If you reply to someone 3 times or more in a row it’s probably you that is the desperate one puddin pop. So please take your travelling dog and pony show to someone else. Quit stalking me. Merry Christmas Shalom 🙂

          • First, while not having intimate knowledge of pedophiles and oxy-contin addiction, I DO know that Limpballs is an admitted oxy-contin addicted lard ass and just loves vacationing in the DR with vials full of unprescribed Viagra so there you have it. Second, LMAO … don’t flatter yourself, son. If this is what you call ‘stalking’ I’ve got a beautiful bridge over the East River to sell you … and on that note, Assalamu Alaikum, boy …

  7. These companies are out to make money and don’t give a hoot about ancient fables and legends one way or the other. That is exactly as it should be. History demonstrates that when cultures get their religion, politics, philosophies and governance all tangled up into vertical, columnar identities of people, somebody ends up getting hurt, usually by the thousands. The most tolerant and domestically peaceful countries today just happen to be those with high numbers of non-believers. Hhhmm!
    Some of you may find it amusing that many of those companies on the nice list, even some of those nice bright blue ones, will not allow the Salvation Army Red Kettles and bell ringers on their property. That proves that these ratings were not well researched nor objectively determined. Then again, these numbskulls touting this imaginary war on Christmas aren’t capable of objectivity in anything.

  8. I certainly am no rightist wing-nut but don’t you think that Christians have a point? December 25 is Christmas Day and all of the lead-up to that day, Christmas Carols, shopping and the attendant decorations and festivities, staff parties, etc. are all part of the celebration of Christmas. Why are companies and organizations then averse to recognizing this clearly and unambiguously? It shouldn’t be because not everyone celebrate Christmas. Let Christians have their day as other religions have theirs without any reservation or controversy. For folks to deny that there is some degree of intended obfuscation or antipathy with respect to Christmas celebrations is dishonest.

    • The idea behind Happy Holidays started out as a way to encompass New Years as well, it’s evolved over time to include those Holy Days celebrated by non-Christians that also take place mid-winter.
      Educate yourself so you don’t sound like the right wing nuts who created the whole furor because they want to be self-made martyrs. Start here:
      or here:
      And have yourself a Very Merry Saturnalia Orgy this Holy Day Season

    • Perhaps if it was confined to being uttered on December 25th, instead of it being insisted it be trumpeted by every retail establishment and spoken by every citizen for at least an entire month? Maybe that would help.

      Happy Christmahannukwanzadan.

    • Let me play the devil’s advocate here:

      1. Not all holidays around this time of year are Christian (ie, Hanukkah – Jewish; Yule – Paganism; Kwanzaa – Pan-African; Soyal – Zuni and Hopi Indians; Pancha Ganapati – Hindu, etc.);

      2. The Christian religon has more than enough recognition (more than all other religions combined) as it is only Christian feast days that are Federal holidays (ie, Christmas, Good Friday).

      Seems to me that it is Christian’s who are ramming Christmas down everyone elses throats and are the ones clutching their pearls because some dared wish them a ‘Happy Holiday.’ The HORRORS! Get me smelling salts!

      So no, no one is denying Christian’s their right to celebrate Christmas. It is only in the minds of ignorant and hypocritical Christians that there is a war … and it’s the one going on between their own, individual ears. What I am saying is that perhaps Christian’s should realize that it isn’t all about them, but about ALL.

      • Marsha! If you take the spiritual arrogance, superiority, and selfishness out of modern American Christianity the only thing you would have left is the original kind, the one that Jesus taught! You silly person you.

      • I agree with your points. Furthermore, why is it the responsibility of retail businesses to support any particular religion? They are usually established to make a profit. It is the churches, synegogues, temples, and other religious institutions which should be upholding their respective religions. I don’t find the gospel according to Walmart or other retailers especially compelling.

        • “why is it the responsibility of retail businesses to support any particular religion?”
          Money talks, that’s why.

    • If Christmas were celebrated from December 24-January 6 (Epiphany/Eastern Orthodox Christmas), then I would agree it is a Christian holiday. But it is promoted and celebrated from late October until Christmas Day, nearly two months! It laps over Halloween, a holiday with Pagan origins, then laps over Thanksgiving, the original American secular holiday, then obliterates Chanukkah, the older Jewish holiday that happens to be at the same time of year, overblows Kwanzaa, a created celebration of African-American culture, and Eid, a Muslim holiday that, like Chanukkah, often occurs around this time. In my opinion, this overreaching has turned Christmas from a Christian holiday to a secular celebration with little or no religious meaning left. Thus, in the US, which is a country that specifically has no state religion and bars the establishment of any favored religion, and in keeping with the vast number of holidays, Happy Holidays is the only logical greeting in retail stores. If you want to wish Christians Merry Christmas, and insist Christmas is still a religious holiday, do it at church and not where I shop.

  9. Sadly, these people don’t care about the Christmas spirit or good will toward all. They’re only interested in using the correct verbiage. They have forgotten–assuming they ever knew it–the message of the person whose birth they’re honoring. They talk the talk, but don’t walk the walk. Their hate-filled rhetoric proves that.

    Although I’m a Jew, I used to love the Christmas season because of the kindness, generosity, and friendliness shown and expressed during that time. That began to disappear when stores started with the decorations, and sales, first before Thanksgiving and now before Halloween. However, given the ardent, Christian Republican stand on capitalism–which is in actuality Laissez faire–they are left with only one thing to prove what good Christians they are: ignore all other faiths and attack anyone or any company that doesn’t comply their approved terminology, Merry Christmas.

  10. I just finished reading this story. The next promo on my list was with their HOLIDAY savings promo. Oh ye backsliders.

  11. There WAS a war on Christmas – Macy’s won. Now they are coming for Thanksgiving! I say boycott them all and remember that Christmas isn’t about giving money to corporations.

    Someone should remind these right wingers that the only time we ever have a record of Jesus getting angry is with the money lenders making a profit off of religion. Hmmm…. lesson for today?

  12. As someone taught me, when someone wishes you a Happy Holidays, you can reply with what you believe in. My response was always Merry Christmas.

    • And when I was chained behind a cash register at Walmart if anyone wished me a Merry Christmas I pretended they hadn’t said anything and simply gave them their change and receipt. I decided long ago to make my work space a Christmas-free zone as much as possible.

    • so if you wish someone Merry Christmas and they wish you back Happy Hannakah, Happy Kwanza, Blessed Ramadan that is o.k.. with you?

      • Yes. I have many friends that I just wished Happy Hanukkah to. Kwanza is coming up. That is truly the beauty of the season. People celebrating what they believe in.

  13. Those of us who are Christian know what the true meaning is. It is mostly expressed through actions and how you live your life rather than by the proper verbiage of the season. Like it or not, in our largely secular country, the “Christmas Season” or “Holidays” is largely a cultural phenomenon, and embraced by most people in some way, religious or not. It’s a joyful time, and if it enables people to put down arms, be more peaceful and generous to others, then I don’t think Christ will take offense.

  14. The republicans today would be the greatest source of comedy if they weren’t so dangerous to your health. Just because they don’t use the word Christmas they are damned. wow! It doesn’t matter if they don’t pay their employees a living wage or give them any benefits, all they have to do is use the word Christmas and all is ok. To say that these people don’t truly understand the message of Christ whose birth they are celebrating is the greatest understatement ever. Amazingly the republican’s cutting the food stamp program and taking food out of children’s is not an issue with these people, only saying the word Christmas is. This is what the new Pope is talking about no matter what Froggy the Gremlin Limbaugh, or daffy duck Palin have to say.

  15. I’m making a point of only saying “seasons greetings” and “happy holidays” just to get under the skin of the fundamentalist wingnuts in my state.

  16. please remind these folks that if not for Mithras and dozens of other pagan religions for christians to steal from there would be no christmas

  17. I am a christian but our family does not partake in the hypocrisy of Christmas. Jesus was not born in December, the bible is clear on that point. The people who wanted Jesus dead, the Roman Catholic church and the people who killed him, the Roman government got together centuries after his birth and made a deal to celebrate his birthday on the occasion where they used to worship the sun. And the world now just blindly goes along with this farce.

    • Carry a bigoted grudge much? Who cares? That’s the day Christians celebrate it , open your presents and stuff a turkey leg in the pie hole. Sheesh! Why do you liberals get your bvd’s in a brown bunch over any show of Christianity. Why is it so upsetting that the date is changed? Isn’t it good to have a set day to celebrate it? Better not at all? Shalom Aleichem Merry Christmas. It still is Christmas 🙂

      • Actually true Christians do not celebrate birthdays: (Ecclesiastes 7:1-4) A name is better than good oil, and the day of death than the day of one’s being born. 2 Better is it to go to the house of mourning than to go to the banquet house, because that is the end of all mankind; and the one alive should take [it] to his heart. 3 Better is vexation than laughter, for by the crossness of the face the heart becomes better. 4 The heart of the wise ones is in the house of mourning, but the heart of the stupid ones is in the house of rejoicing.

        • Well, I wasn’t around for Jesus’s funeral, and there is Easter with all those yummy chocolate eggs and bunnies, so I say Merry Christmas and celebrate his birth. No harm to you in that is there? Just because that’s the way you celebrate it, do you want to cancel Christmas for everyone else, and there are quite a few, who celebrate Jesus’s birth in December? And since you claim to want to follow the bible to a “t”, then you may want to reconsider judging people. It is not for you Fred, to judge who is Christian enough or who is a “true” Christian; “For with what judgement ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye
          mete, it shall be measured to you again” Blessings to you and your family all year round.

          • God gave us free will to do what we want. You are entitled to celebrate Christmas. I was just showing you why some people do not. God does the judging, not me.

      • December 25th might have also been chosen because the Winter Solstice and the ancient pagan Roman midwinter festivals called ‘Saturnalia’ and ‘Dies Natalis Solis Invicti’ took place in December around this date – so it was a time when people already celebrated things.

        The Winter Solstice is the day where there is the shortest time
        between the sun rising and the sun setting. It happens on December 21st or 22nd. To pagans this meant that the winter was over and spring was coming and they had a festival to celebrate it and worshipped the sun for winning over the darkness of winter. In Scandinavia, and some other parts of northern Europe, the Winter Solstice is known as Yule and is where we get Yule Logs from. In Eastern europe the mid-winter festival is called Koleda.

        • You are right. Also, the Pagan Scandinavians celebrated the winter solstice with the burning of the yule log. It makes sense to celebrate the solstices.

  18. Ha Ha Ha! That’s priceless… a naive organization duped into blindly promote corporations for no reason other than the word choice in the marketing advertisements to shoppers. Yeah, that’s a good way to determine whether a corporation is really doing good in the world. ha ha

    • I know! Almost as ridiculous as voting for an absolutely inept presidential candidate because of something other than content of character. Priceless! That’s a good way to determine whether he would be qualified. Almost as good as passing a bill to see what is in it. Hahaha!

  19. No one actually cares about where christmas came from anymore. Christmas is a time of year where you stuff your face, look at pretty lights, and get free shit from everyone you know.

      • You don’t celebrate it at all? Or just take the parts you like, such as stuffing yourself and getting gifts, and proclaim the rest to be garbage?

    • So why are they protesting so much? why is it so offensive to say Merry Christmas or for children to sing Christmas Carols at school? Why not just enjoy your food, pretty lights and free gifts? Celebrate ramadan, kwanzaa and hanukka the same way, what’s the biggee?

  20. So do you folks give each other “Holiday” presents? You shouldn’t give each other anything. It is Jesus’s birthday after all, we should be getting him a gift, or at least celebrating his birthday, but I guess you don’t want Christians to do that unless the liberals get to tell Christians how much of “Christmas” and the word “Christ” is too much. You don’t want it forced on you, but you want to force Christians to celebrate it the way you have decided is best for all.

      • NO! the point matter what day we would celebrate Jesus’s birthday, liberals would object and want to tell us how to celebrate it. didn’t answer my question….that’s ok. I didn’t expect any of you to really answer. Have a great “Christmas” day, opening your “holiday” presents……;-) Shalom aleichem…… Merry Hypocrites! HO HO HO!!!!

        • Actually, since Christians took this holiday from Roman pagans, technically, you should be giving Saturnalia presents …

          “ matter what day we would celebrate Jesus’s birthday, liberals would object and want to tell us how to celebrate it.”

          I call bullsh*t. The only ‘war’ on Christmas is what the Rabid & Ridiculous Right has going on in its collective, furtile imagination.

        • There are only two birthdays in the Bible and thus TRUE Christians do not celebrate birthdays (I quoted Ecclesiastes 7:1-4 in another response to you). Pharaoh and Herod. Pharaoh was a bad guy and we all (well some of us) know that Herod’s is where the phrase ‘hand their head over on a platter’ comes from. (Mark 6:21-29) 21 But a convenient day came along when Herod spread an evening meal on his birthday for his top-ranking men and the military commanders and the foremost ones of Gal′i·lee. 22 And the daughter of this very He·ro′di·as came in and danced and pleased Herod and those reclining with him. The king said to the maiden: “Ask me for whatever you want, and I will give it to you.” 23 Yes, he swore to her: “Whatever you ask me for, I will give it to you, up to half my kingdom.” 24 And she went out and said to her mother: “What should I ask for?” She said: “The head of John the baptizer.” 25 Immediately she went in with haste to the king and made her request, saying: “I want you to give me right away on a platter the head of John the Baptist.” 26 Although he became deeply grieved, yet the king did not want to disregard her, in view of the oaths and those reclining at the table. 27 So the king immediately dispatched a body guardsman and commanded him to bring his head. And he went off and beheaded him in the prison 28 and brought his head on a platter, and he gave it to the maiden, and the maiden gave it to her mother. 29 When his disciples heard of it they came and took up his corpse and laid it in a memorial tomb.

          The Bible shows us that there is no reason to celebrate ANYONEs birthday.

          • come on! you follow the Bible to the letter , do you? Or just when convenient like the rest of the liberals on here? no birthday cake at all at your house? sure! You won’t be opening “holiday ” presents? hmmmmmmmmm.. ok! cool. Those three wise men were sure trouble makers eh? off with this heads……….. ps, Merry Christmas 😉

          • We try to live our life in accordance with the Bible as much as humanly possible. We try to emulate the first century Christians who went city to city and door to door preaching the good news of God and God’s Kingdom. That does not mean you have to but our family chooses to.

            So to answer your question, yes, we do not celebrate birthdays. No cake, no candles, no presents, no big deal. If we want to give someone a present we don’t wait until
            their birthday or Christmas to do so. We have no tree nor do we share presents on some random day that has a false meaning for us.

            It is actually nice not celebrating these so called Holidays. For one thing our children do not feel entitled to receive a present. There is none of this “I like Uncle Billy better than Uncle Tommy because he gave me a bigger present”. No running around in giant crowds knocking people over to buy the next big thing.

            And by the way, you do know the three wise men were not present at the birth of Jesus, right? They met him at a house, not the stable. (Matthew 2:11) . . .And when they went into the house they saw the young child with Mary its mother, and, falling down, they did obeisance to it. They also opened their treasures and presented it with gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh. . .

          • Yes, I know the wise men were not there for the birth of Jesus. I like that you are not hypocritical in the way you live your life according to your faith. I know most people pick and choose what they want to honor from the bible and then try to tell others when they are not “Christian ” enough or not a good “Christian”. I like that you don’t give each other presents at Christmas or birthdays, and I agree with giving someone a gift at any time, just like you should not wait to tell someone you love or appreciate them on Father’s day or Christmas or their birthday. You never know when it is your last day on earth do you? Tell them now. By choosing not to celebrate on a specific date, you have eliminated the stress other people have at this time of year, whether they call it Christmas or Kwanzaa or just Happy holidays. I got into big trouble long ago for writing a story in school about whiny bratty kids wanting nintendos and bikes for Christmas when it wasn’t their birthday at all. I then wrote a Jesus “wish list” of things he would want for his birthday. You couldn’t buy any of them at Apple or Toys R Us. Yep, the nuns were not happy with that one. So I say Good for you . God Bless you and your family all year round.

  21. As Adam Ferguson noted, “nations [and individuals] stumble upon establishments which are the result of human action but are not the result of human design”.

  22. Interesting how the AFA lists their own website’s Online Store as the very first thing on their “Companies for Christmas” list. Kind of an admission that they really are just in this for the money, right? Also, how shitty would it be to get a Christmas gift from their online store?

  23. Since our minds cannot anticipate their own advance, we must maintain leeway for learning the unforeseeable lessons of future experiences.

  24. How much do the companies on the green list “donate” to AFA? Are the yellow list companies who the AFA is currently trying to extort so as not to be on the red list? Those who claim to be “family” or religious organizations are all about the money.

  25. The companies on the red list are the first places I am shopping at this year. Actually they are not. I am spending Christmas in London away from the Christian crazies here.

  26. The knowledge unleashed through citizens’ liberty is far superior to that which could ever be available to centralized state administrators.

  27. I really have no idea why people are so opposed to including everyone, as a business owner, if my employees say “Happy Holidays”, I know that those who are celebrating all holidays will feel included. What is wrong with that? Why are you offended by that? These same idiots screaming about the war on Christmas would be screaming just as loud AGAINST other faiths being included in the public realm. I find the devisive and hateful rhetoric so offensive. I feel sad that companies feel the need to cave to the pressure from these nutjobs.

  28. Even though the concepts of cultural evolution & biological evolution share some similarities, there are critical differences between them.

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