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Yes, Trump Intends To Build That Wall — Even If Mexico Won’t Pay For It

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Yes, Trump Intends To Build That Wall — Even If Mexico Won’t Pay For It

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump is expected to begin signing executive orders aimed at curbing illegal immigration on Wednesday, beginning with a directive to build a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico and another to boost personnel needed to crack down on illegal immigrants, congressional aides with knowledge of the plan told Reuters.

In the coming days, Trump is expected to limit the number of refugees admitted to the United States to 50,000 a year, down from 100,000, and to impose a temporary ban on most refugees.

Trump, who took office last Friday, will begin signing the orders at the Department of Homeland Security on Wednesday. On Twitter on Tuesday night, Trump reiterated his promise to build the border wall, which was a cornerstone of his presidential campaign and which he has promised to make Mexico pay for.

The border enforcement order includes plans to hire 5,000 more U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents used to apprehend migrants at the border and to triple the number of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agents used to arrest and deport migrants living in the United States illegally.

The Customs and Border Protection agency has already struggled to meet its hiring mandate, with a little more than 19,000 agents on the payroll, out of a congressionally mandated 21,000.

Immigration enforcement away from the border is also expected to be strengthened by seeking an end to “sanctuary cities” where local law enforcement officials refuse to cooperate with federal immigration authorities.

Trump will call for an end to this practice and may instruct the federal government to stop providing certain funds to cities that refuse to comply.

Later in the week, Trump is expected to suspend the issuing of visas to people from countries where it is deemed that adequate screening cannot occur. Immigration experts expect those countries to include Syria, Sudan, Somalia, Iraq, Iran, Libya and Yemen.

A review will be conducted by the Trump administration to determine what screening must occur before travel for citizens from such countries can resume.

(Reporting by Julia Edwards Ainsley; Writing by Susan Heavey; Editing by Franklin Paul and Frances Kerry)

IMAGE: People in Mexico wave at U.S. Border Patrol agents on horseback patrolling the U.S.-Mexico border fence near San Diego, California, U.S., November 10, 2016. REUTERS/Mike Blake/File Photo

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  1. stsintl January 25, 2017

    Why not let Trump Organization, managed by the Trump sons, build the wall and then invoice Mexico and collect the cost? Why should taxpayers have to pay it first? The other alternative would be to raise the money through bonds sold to Trump Voters and then pay them off when Mexico reimburses the Trump Organization.

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    1. Thoughtopsy January 25, 2017

      Now that is an excellent idea.

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    2. itsfun January 25, 2017

      Can you imagine the outcry if any Trump relative or even friend has anything to do with building the wall?

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      1. stsintl January 25, 2017

        If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, it has to be their project. They would certainly like to use their own labor and materials. Trump Organization, run by the POTUS sons, can take up the project just as they have done for building, hotels, and golf courses, etc around the world. Why should tax payers have to first pay for it?

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        1. itsfun January 26, 2017

          I am not saying taxpayers should pay for the wall. The Trump builds hotels and golf courses and such for profits. They are a business not a charity. Would you trust Mexico to build a wall that did the job? If the wall is for America and saves American lives, protects our borders from drug trafficking then I have no problem with tax payers paying until we can collect the money for it.

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          1. Independent1 January 26, 2017

            Keeping out immigrants is not going to save any money or American lives. Immigrants commit crimes at 1/8th the rate of native-born Americans. That’s not to say there isn’t a criminal among them, but there are far fewer criminals among immigrants than people born right here in America (and that includes mass murderers virtually all of which have been born right here in America although some have been of foreign descent). So if building the wall is really intended to reduce crime, the GOP would do far better by stopping its assault on abortion which is only serving to increase abortions, and in closing down Planned Parenthood which works to help families from having children they don’t feel prepared to have or want to have. Reducing unwanted births of native-born Americans will do far more in saving people’s lives down the road than building a wall which will accomplish nothing; which several experts have pointed out to the GOP but which they consistently choose to ignore so they can continue on with just one more fake issue to rile up potential voters.

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          2. stsintl January 26, 2017

            in the list of top 25 serial killers in the USA, two are latinos, and one Vietnamese with a White accomplice. Rest are all White Rednecks. Not a single black. Because, whites get the benefit of the doubt and non-whites don’t get a second chance.

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          3. Independent1 January 26, 2017

            Thanks for the validation of my point. Two Latinos and one Vietnamese out of 25 is 1/8th of the mass murders which validates studies which say immigrants (including illegals) commit about 1/8th of the crimes of those committed by native-born Americans. And it’s not only just fewer crimes, but the crimes that immigrants commit are generally 2-3 times less likely to be crimes that require incarceration. Most immigrants are not stupid; they’re here to try and make a better life for themselves and almost always to help relatives they’ve left back home in their native country. So they tend to be more careful about not getting involved with the law; knowing they may well be deported if they do.

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          4. dpaano January 26, 2017

            Yep, watch our fruit and veggie prices go sky high!!! No American would EVER take a job working in the fields!

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          5. stsintl January 26, 2017

            Yes, Trump organization is not a charity. So, they should fund it through issuing bonds and sell them to Trump voters and his cabinet billionaires. Those bonds can then be liquidated when the Trump organization collects the money from Mexico. POTUS himself doesn’t pay any taxes and going to cut taxes for his oligarchs, so the middle class would end up holding the bag when Mexico says “Go to Hell” to POTUS.

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          6. Independent1 January 26, 2017

            And Trump’s upcoming contentious dealings with foreign leaders is just starting:

            Mexican president cancels meeting with Trump amid spat over border wall

            Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto said Thursday he has canceled an upcoming meeting with President Trump amid a spat over Peña Nieto’s refusal to pay for a planned wall along the U.S. southern border. Trump has long vowed that Mexico would pay for the construction project.

            “This morning we informed the White House that I will
            not attend the scheduled work meeting for next Tuesday with @POTUS,” Peña Nieto announced on Twitter.

            https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-threatens-to-cancel-meeting-with-mexican-president-amid-spat-over-border-wall-161940039.html

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          7. dpaano January 26, 2017

            It’s funny that Trump immediately came out with a message that it was HIM that cancelled the meeting…..interesting how he ALWAYS takes credit for things that didn’t actually happen! Now he can blame it on Nieto for not meeting with him rather than on himself for being such a dick!

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        2. Independent1 January 26, 2017

          Mexican President Pena Nieto has just said yesterday that Mexico does not believe in building walls and that Mexico will not pay for any wall that is built.

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          1. dpaano January 26, 2017

            And he’s said that many times before, but apparently, Trump hasn’t actually listened or thinks that he can “force” Mexico to do something they refuse to do. Besides, they don’t have that kind of money to just throw around on a wall that they don’t want!

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    3. dpaano January 25, 2017

      That would work for me…..I certainly don’t relish my taxpayer money going to pay for a fence that (1) no one wants; (2) won’t keep anyone out; and (3) will NOT be paid for by the Mexican government! The taxpayer will get hit with the WHOLE cost and there’s NO plan in writing that says Mexico will pay for it (and I doubt very seriously that there will EVER be a written plan along that line)!

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  2. Gerry Francis January 25, 2017

    The border enforcement order includes plans to hire 5,000 more U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents. – Didn’t he just sing a freeze on Federal hiring? Another DonaldDoubleTalk.

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth January 25, 2017

        Yep, that’s our dear old Donny boy.

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        1. dpaano January 26, 2017

          God, I hate seeing that smirk!!! Every time he comes on TV, I turn it off or turn to another channel! He’s so smug and smirky…..can’t stand looking at him!

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          1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth January 26, 2017

            Not only the goofy smile, but switching to his faux smooth voice mode sounds a lot like Eddie Haskell of “Leave It to Beaver” telling the Beaver’s mom—“Oh, what a lovely dress you have on, Mrs. Cleaver”.

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    1. itsfun January 25, 2017

      The hiring freeze is not forever.

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth January 25, 2017

        So what? You’ll be called up to do some work—for free.

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      2. Independent1 January 26, 2017

        Kind of out of character for a Republican. Reagan added 265,000 workers to the government ranks in his 8 years and together with the 2 Bushes a total of 285,000. While in contrast, Carter, Clinton and Obama cut the number of government workers by over 380,000 such that when Obama left office there were 330,000 less people employed by our government than when Reagan left office on 1/20/89. Even though our government is serving 75 million more people!!

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      3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth January 26, 2017

        Right, Einstein. Just long enough to worry a lot of current employees who’ll have to shoulder more work w/o an increase in pay. And those who were hoping to get jobs with the federal government will have to remain in limbo, until little Lord Fauntleroy settles down from his frequent episodic temper tantrums.

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    2. ivory69690@yahoo.com January 25, 2017

      the DONNY DUMP DOUBLE B/S rant

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    3. Independent1 January 26, 2017

      While your incompetent leader and GOP Congress are wrangling over installing the most bigoted, racist, corrupt president and cabinet in American history, tornadoes tore through the South killing 20 people with numbskull Trump and everyone else in the GOP Congress doing nothing to provide help!! Just like with Katrina REPUBLICANS DROPPED THE BALL!!!

      FEMA Under Trump Fails To Help After Tornados Devastate S.E. The Incompetence Is Showing Already.

      THIS is what American Carnage means. Just as FEMA failed to get help to
      NOLA after Katrina, so Trump and his team have dropped the ball after
      tornado storms ripped through the SouthEast this past Saturday and
      Sunday. There are 20 people dead and communities devastated with some
      areas looking like what many call a war zone. Officials are begging
      Trump to send help TWO-THREE DAYS after the tornado storms. Make sure
      you spread this story. Trump supporters need to see what voting for
      incompetent, anti-government Republicans gets them. No help when you
      need it. Republicans are about installing cronies and reaping profits
      for themselves and not about making sure Government works for the
      welfare of the people.

      http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/24/1624651/-FEMA-Under-Trump-Fails-To-Help-South-After-Severe-Storm-Damage-His-Incompetence-Is-Showing-Already?

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      1. Gerry Francis January 26, 2017

        I was just in the south – Georgia, North and South Carolina, Virginia – you couldn’t swing a dead cat without seeing a Trump sign or bumper sticker. Despite all the warnings to the contrary, they supported him. I feel bad for them, but, they got what they wanted.

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      2. dpaano January 26, 2017

        And, just think, most of the people in these areas voted for Trump. Do you think this will help them realize what a mistake that was! In the meantime, my prayers are with them….I just hope FEMA takes it upon itself to get there without Trump’s blessing!

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        1. Independent1 January 26, 2017

          But it’s possible even people in those heavy Republican areas may come to have 2nd thoughts. Trump’s finding that people in many cities he wants to visit don’t want him there.

          See this article:

          Trump plans visits to U.S. cities, finds they don’t want him anywhere near them

          It’s less than a week into Trump’s term as POTUS and he can’t go anywhere without being reminded that people did not actually vote for him.

          Not only did they not vote for him, they kind of hate him. No, they actually hate him—no “kind of” about it.

          The day after his inauguration he was officially welcomed to Washington with the largest protest in U.S. history. And people aren’t done yet. On Tuesday there were more than 100 Stop Trump protests conducted around the country. And now in the latest example of organized resistance, Philadelphia, otherwise known as the City of Brotherly Love, plans to show Trump on Thursday just exactly what they think of him.

          President Trump’s visit to Center City on Thursday will be met with traffic, parking, and pedestrian restrictions as well as a large contingent of protesters…

          A group on Facebook was organizing a lunch-hour “die-in” on Thursday to protest Trump’s proposed repeal of the Affordable Care Act. The protesters will gather at Thomas Paine Plaza across the street from City Hall and then march to Loews, where they will fall to the ground. A “Queer Rager” dance party to protest the proposed health care repeal was planned for outside the Loews on Wednesday night.

          http://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/01/25/1625113/-Trump-plans-visits-to-US-cities-finds-they-don-t-want-him-anywhere-near-them?detail=email&link_id=2&can_id=a411792ec3538dd9b3c310bcf6fda8aa&source=email-insecure-donald-trump-ordered-crowd-photos-to-be-hung-in-the-wh-but-they-have-a-hilarious-error&email_referrer=insecure-donald-trump-ordered-crowd-photos-to-be-hung-in-the-wh-but-they-have-a-hilarious-error&email_subject=insecure-donald-trump-ordered-crowd-photos-to-be-hung-in-the-wh-but-they-have-a-hilarious-error

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          1. dpaano January 26, 2017

            I LOVE IT!!! I hope that every city that he plans on attending does the same thing! Of course, he’ll blame anything that comes out in the newspapers as being a major lie….but we can always tell him that they’re just reporting “alternative facts.”

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        2. ivory69690@yahoo.com January 27, 2017

          it wont matter to the people that voted for the DONNY DUMP CLOWN heck thy are brain dead so nothing would matter to them

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    4. Independent1 January 26, 2017

      Sadly, there are so many border agents monitoring the border already that there have been several instances of agents being killed by friendly fire (by their own supposed comrades) because their falling all over each other.

      And given the given the anti immigrant mood Trump has created, building a wall will do more to prevent illegals who want to flee the country from getting back to Mexico than it will prevent more illegals from coming here. Illegals crossing the border are now at the lowest levels in more than 2-3 decades.

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      1. dpaano January 26, 2017

        OUR money……because, you know, Mexico will NOT pay for the wall!

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  3. Dan S January 25, 2017

    Now the real fun begins with implementation. Okay which landowner along the southern border is willing to let Trump use Eminent Domain to seize your property and water rights ? Anyone ? And do you think you’ll get fair value for your property or are you not going to be a true patriot and squabble over price ? Maybe you can sue Mexico instead of Trump

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    1. dpaano January 25, 2017

      I’ve heard that there are several ranchers along the border who are having a hissy fit about the fence being put up on their land! Plus, if it interferes with their access to water for their cattle, etc., there’s going to be a major fight! This should be interesting! I know that our California governor says that he will NOT allow any fence along our border (where there isn’t one already) without a vote from the residents of this state! As it should be!
      The same goes for sanctuary cities…..Governor Brown will NOT allow the Feds to come in and try to put anyone in jail in a sanctuary city without a major beat down!!! This should be interesting!

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      1. Independent1 January 26, 2017

        And it’s not just separating cattle from their water; the existing wall has separated people from the places they normally went to get food; it’s separated animals from their normal grazing/foraging areas; it’s dammed up water and created erosion and environmental damage. It’s caused people and animals to die and is speeding up the demise of some endangered species. Putting up more wall will simply created more damage to animals, human lives and the environment without accomplishing anything. Experts have stated numerous times that given the terrain along our southern border, additional wall will accomplish nothing other than waste money.

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        1. dpaano January 26, 2017

          Some of the land, as I said, is private ranch land, and the ranchers are NOT going to be happy to give it up to a stupid wall. Additionally, there’s also some of the land in National Parks, and that won’t work either! It will be fun to see how he goes about building a wall that no one wants and that the taxpayers will end up paying for!

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  4. ivory69690@yahoo.com January 25, 2017

    if Mexico dosent pay for the wall like DONNY DUMP promised the American people (and Mexico wont) thy already told the dumpster to eat his B/S he talks out his ass where his mouth is . then America should SUE the DUMPSTER for the money it will cost us . he said of all others that thy are all TALK , talk , TALK NO ACTION . that’s what the DONNY DUMP CLOWN is doing and that’s all the POS will ever do . for that’s all he knows how to do . he will TALK, talk , TALK (just to hear him self talk . at the end nothing no action or anything will get done . then he will blame the brain dead for putting the know nothing clown in the house . he cant lose if he is thrown out of the house he will just start the DONNY DUMP CLOWN SHOW on reality T.V. at the end that’s all his plans have ever been

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    1. Independent1 January 25, 2017

      Mexico won’t pay: President Pena Nieto said so in a statement on January 25th that Mexico will not pay for any wall. See my post to dpaano above.

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      1. ivory69690@yahoo.com January 26, 2017

        the Mexican president told DONNY DUMP that back when the clown went to Mexico during the election when the addicted seeking junky went there for his attention fix . and all the while there never had the stones to even bring it up . the attention addicted junky , 5 time draft dodging coward , multiple bankrupting fraud, con , scammer . one scary place he’s to be in between his ears in that deranged senile ,Alzheimer’s dementia , retardation , pea brain of his

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      2. dpaano January 26, 2017

        In fact, President Nieto has said NO a long time ago and MANY times. Apparently, Trump doesn’t know what that word means….after all, not many people have said no to him! He’s much like the schoolyard bully!! Everyone is afraid to go against him for fear that he’ll beat them up!

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  5. ivory69690@yahoo.com January 25, 2017

    itsfun should ask the dumpster for a job im sure he can use an I wanna be a bully clown instead of a hiding behind my keyboard coward . yes yes here’s your childish blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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  6. dpaano January 25, 2017

    First of all, if our Congress releases money to Trump for his stupid wall, there are going to be a major bunch of hard-working taxpayers who are going to be sufficiently pissed! He may THINK that Mexico will pay us back one way or the other, but they won’t. For one reason, he’s pulling manufacturing out of Mexico, which depends on this manufacturing for their economy. So, with no manufacturing in Mexico any longer, that means no money being made by Mexico. So, how in hell does the orange-haired idiot think Mexico is going to come up with money to pay back the U.S.? I ain’t going to happen!!! Secondly, the Mexican president has already said, and I can’t count how many times, that Mexico will NOT pay for the stupid wall!!! Apparently, Trump has not learned that “no means NO!!” I guess we can always blame that on his upbringing because no one ever told him he couldn’t do something! Additionally, as my Border Patrol buddy says, unless they sink the stupid wall down 6 feet into the ground, there’s NO way to keep determined cartel members from burrowing under it as they have in the past!! And, again, for the orange-haired baboon, did he never consider this?
    As for the refugees from overseas…..what ever happened to the saying on the Statute of Liberty…..I bet the ol’ gal is cringing right now as we speak!!
    IF the Democrats in the Congress don’t immediately do something about this….it’s just going to get worse, if that’s possible. He’s already said he’s going to open up Guantanamo and load it up with “bad dudes.” What in heck does that mean??? Seriously? Why doesn’t Cuba tell them to get the heck off of their island? The Republicans once wanted President Obama to close down Guantanamo, but then when he attempted it, they opposed the bill (of course…..any bill by President Obama, even if it’s something they actually wanted, was NEVER going to be approved). But, I guess anything that the current idiot in power wants is perfectly okay!
    As you can see, I’m a little upset! I just hope everyone else with a brain and a sense of logic feels the same way! And, if so, get on the phone to your local Congressman and tell him you don’t need this clown spending your taxpayer money on a stupid fence that no one actually wants or needs! What we DO need is a work visa program so that these individuals can continue coming here to mow our lawns, wash our dishes, take care of our children, pick our fruit and veggies, etc. That seems like it would work so much better since there isn’t a SINGLE American citizen that would be willing to take on those jobs themselves!

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth January 25, 2017

      All of us are upset, as well—that is, those who have sense and can see right through a bully. Donald’s petulance and idiocy grew stale long ago.

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      1. dpaano January 26, 2017

        What part of “NO” does Trump understand? Apparently, nothing!! I’m sure even many women said no to him, but he didn’t care, and this is just another one of those “NO’s” he doesn’t seem to understand. He’s so used to getting his own way, he doesn’t realize that he’s not the CEO or King of this country and can’t just willy nilly says something and suddenly make it happen!!! Eventually, he’ll figure this out, I hope!

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    2. Independent1 January 25, 2017

      And Mexico isn’t going to pay us back – President Pena Nieto made that clear tonight. Here’s a CNN alert I received late in the evening on January 25th:

      CNN News Alert:

      Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto said Wednesday his country “will not pay for any wall,” despite the claims US President Donald Trump has made. But he did not cancel his trip planned for the United States next week. “Mexico does not believe in walls. I’ve said time again; Mexico will not pay for any wall,” he said in a video statement posted to Twitter and translated by CNN from Spanish.

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    3. ivory69690@yahoo.com January 26, 2017

      its crazy all the ones in the house DEMS&REPS all are thinking the same thing and all are too scared to say anything . that the DUMPSTER is a very deranged clown . during the election DONNY DUMP put down pretty much all of them bad mouthing their wife’s family’s calling one a child molester . and LITTLE MARKO he was belittled so much and had the chance to make a right point and block the Exxon CLOWN from being Sect. of state . and he choked . and BTW didn’t the DUMPSTER and was the only one of the REP’s to say on stage he wouldn’t back up anyone that won the REP side of the ticket ? as wacked out as DONNY DUMP is the future books that will be written will (yes of course be stating how stupid the DUMPSTER AND NUTS he was and is today ) but those books are going to be talking about how unfit the REP party was to let the clown get away with all his deranged B/S

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  7. Aaron_of_Portsmouth January 25, 2017

    This Wall obsession of Donald’s may very well be his Waterloo. The narcissism, nativism, a mean-spirited nature that infests every fiber of his body, and a petulant and petty attitude are his Achilles Heel and will get him, if the Wall doesn’t fall on him first.

    It behooves all the nations of the world in the new spirit of the Age required as stated in The Lesser Peace, to stand up unitedly against the bully of all times, and send him and his cronies in Congress a loud and resounding “Thus far, and no further!!”

    In my opinion, Baha’u’llah, His eldest son, Abdul Baha, and His grandson, Shoghi Effendi, would smile on such cooperation, and will be another milestone the entire world will have taken towards a full implementation of “The Lesser Peace”.

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