By Henry Decker

‘GOP Autopsy’ Is Dead On Arrival

March 18, 2013 3:54 pm Category: Memo Pad, Politics 142 Comments A+ / A-
‘GOP Autopsy’ Is Dead On Arrival

The Republican National Committee released its long-awaited post-2012 “autopsy” Monday, in the form of a 99-page report titled the “Growth and Opportunity Project.” Although the report pushes for some drastic changes in the way that the Republican Party conducts itself during elections, it ultimately fails to confront the primary problem: Its policies just aren’t popular with voters.

With the exception of a qualified push for immigration reform, the Growth and Opportunity Project centers around the idea that the Republican Party’s platform is sound, while the messaging is at fault. That comes as no surprise — it was RNC chairman Reince Priebus, after all, who recently declared “I don’t think our platform is the issue” — but this plan is startlingly divorced from the Republicans’ present reality. On nearly every issue facing Congress — from raising the minimum wage, to cutting federal programs, to strengthening gun safety laws, to fighting against climate change — most voters side with Democrats over Republicans.

Further complicating the RNC’s mission is the fact that the GOP has shown absolutely no signs of being ready to change the conduct that led to the party’s overwhelming losses in November.

For example, the Priebus plan notes that “if we are going to grow as a party, our policies and actions must take into account that the middle class has struggled mightily and that far too many of our citizens live in poverty,” adding “The perception that the GOP does not care about people is doing great harm to the party and its candidates on the federal level, especially in presidential years. It is a major deficiency that must be addressed.”

Improving outreach to the poor seems like a great idea in theory. In practice, House Republicans are preparing to vote this week on Paul Ryan’s extremist “vision document,” which explicitly promises to slash funding for programs that help the needy in order to finance a massive tax break for the wealthy.

The report’s suggestion that Republicans “learn once again how to appeal to more people, including those who share some but not all of our conservative principles” seems like a no-brainer. But in reality, those people are called RINOs, and are almost automatically disqualified from national races. Priebus’ report can’t change that reality. Even while the autopsy suggests that “The Republican Party needs to stop talking to itself,” most of the GOP’s brightest stars spent the weekend at the insular Conservative Political Action Conference — to which popular governors Chris Christie of New Jersey and Bob McDonnell of Virginia were not invited, for the unforgivable crime of compromising with some of their states’ many Democrats.

In theory, the report’s suggestion that “if we want ethnic minority voters to support Republicans, we have to engage them, and show our sincerity,” makes perfect sense. In practice, the GOP seems to be going out of its way to antagonize minority voters; even as the autopsy suggests showing sincerity, the party continues to push for voter-suppression laws that nakedly attempt to keep minorities away from the polls. While the autopsy suggests that the GOP “must be inclusive and welcoming” to Hispanic-Americans, Senate Republicans are simultaneously gearing up for a racially-charged filibuster of Thomas Perez, the only Hispanic nominee for President Obama’s cabinet.

The report pushes the party to “establish a presence in African-American communities and at black organizations such as the NAACP,” but it seems to forget that Mitt Romney tried that in July. He ended up getting booed repeatedly for promising to repeal health care reform, and patronizingly claiming to be the best candidate for the black community.

“It all goes back to what our moms used to tell us: It’s not just what we say; it’s how we say it,” Priebus said of his report Monday morning. He is forgetting a more important factor: what they do. The Republicans’ problem isn’t that voters aren’t getting the message about the party’s policies; it’s that too many voters read the GOP loud and clear.

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  • http://twitter.com/eddieVroom eddieVroom

    I think everyone got the GOteaP’s message loud and clear the first time.

    • Annemb

      I believe you are correct!
      Thanks for your post.

    • BDC_57

      You got that right.

  • shawn_von_socialist

    the problem with conservativism its twice as expensive as socialism with worse outcomes

    when a person figures that out they will never vote conservative again

    • Annemb

      Yes. Have you read the book, “Conservatives Without Conscience” by John W. Dean? The reading is very interesting and informative.
      Thanks for your post.

      • kmkirb

        Here’s another great one to read, & it’s free to grab. “The Authoritarians” by Bob Altemeyer.

        http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

        • Annemb

          Thanks so much for this information. The book sounds interesting. I have the web address and will access it. (Why is Bob Altemeyer’s name so familiar?)

          Also, I strongly I strongly recommend Diana Eck’s book, A New Religious America: How a “Christian Country” Has Become the World’s Most Religiously Diverse Nation was published in 1997. She was on Bill Moyers’ program that same year she was his guest.

          Another great read is “The Summer of 1787: The Men Who Invented the Constitution” by David O. Stewart.

          BTW, the Teapublicants don’t want to compromise yet they claim to “love” the Constitution! Well, how do they think our country was founded if not with compromise? And how was the Constitution written? Compromise! If it wasn’t for compromise I believe that this new experiment in representative democracy would never have gotten off the ground and we’d be behind everyone else.

          Forgive me for going on and on like that. It was unintentional and one thing led to another. It’s sometimes so frustrating.

          Blessings be upon you and your family.

          • kmkirb

            Hey Annemb,

            You didn’t go on & on. You are so very welcome, & thanks so much for the all the great info. It’s great to share, unlike the one mental case we have on this thread that wants to distort & blatantly lie. It’s wonderful to share the facts & truth. And that’s exactly it, without compromise we would be nowhere.

            Many people believe we are under a democratic rule. Not true at all. We are a Constitutional Republic. The problem is these politicians who lie to get into office, making people believe they are willing to do the people’s work & have their best interests, but once in office they allow themselves to be owned by the corporations & lobbyists who have promised them jobs if/when they decide to leave. I say we should have laws to stop this corruption. But, how do we do that with a treasonous SCOTUS that voted for Citizens United? I very much appreciated what you had to say, & may blessings be upon you & yours as well!

          • Annemb

            Your post is true.

            I agree that without compromise we would be nowhere. Today we hear John Boehner even refuse to say the word, “compromise.” How does he think the Declaration of Independence and Constitution were written if not with compromise? The book, “Conservatives Without Conscience extrapolates the differences between the real conservative, dictators and liberals, this quite well.

            Also, the SCOTUS’ Citizens United decision was, to say the least, not for the benefit of our country. (I could use stronger words but won’t.) We need to have this overturned to take power back from money — foreign and domestic. If not, we are doomed and will no longer be the “great experiment” our Founders had in mind.

            Thanks so much for your words and your blessings, too.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    The meaning of growth and opportunity for the GOP is figuring out ways to exploit the workforce to improve the bottom line. Their focus on destroying organized labor is influenced by their desire to eliminate every single barrier that limits their ability to increase profits to exceed shareholder expectations, grow and seek opportunities in faraway places where low labor costs and lack of regulations guarantee a high ROI, often at the expense of hapless workers willing to risk their health and their very lives to feed their families.

    • whodatbob

      Ronnie Baby set the tone for elimination of organized labor. He fired all traffic controllers.

      • Independent1

        And it’s unfortunate that that’s not the only bad thing he did. He also spent like a drunken sailor having the highest average budget increase percent in history of 8.7%/yr; and he started the nonsense notions of trickle-down economics, tax cuts spur the economy and let’s keep 25-50% of spending outside the presidential budget. All of these are things that the two Bushes tried to emulate with disasterous effects – as we can all clearly see today with our 16.4 trillion in debt and growing; with Ronnie Baby and the two Bushes responsible for more than 90% of it.

        • whodatbob

          My point was to agree with Dominick’s statement on exploitation of the workforce and distruction of organized labor. Unions were the supporting force that held the middle class from crumbelling into poverty. You added more evel Ronnie Baby did.
          Since Ronnie fired the Controllers union membership has been reduced as has wages and benifite for all middle class employees.

        • lana ward

          The debt has gone up more than 6 trillion under Obama. It went up 4 trillion under G W Bush

          • Independent1

            Sorry Lana, I’m not biting on any more of your crap! I’m through responding to a total imbecile. When you get a brain installed, maybe someday you’ll see the light.

          • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.bonsell.1 Thomas Bonsell

            Perhaps you don’t know how our debt is accumulated; and that’s by GOP trickery.

            Try the Clinton administration which produced a $63-billion surplus over 8 years (4 years of deficit and 4 years of surpluses), but the debt increased more than a trillion dollars.

            It worked this way: After Reagan got tax cuts on the aristocracy in 1981 he got higher payroll taxes on working Americans in 1983. Included was the provision that all payroll tax surpluses go to the Treasury in exchange for IOUs, that went to the SS fund.

            Clinton’s 4 years of surpluses were mostly in payroll taxes thanks to more than 23 million new jobs created and lowering poverty from 15.1% to ll.3%. And that surplus had to be turned into debt under Reagan’s Deficit Reduction Act of 1984.

            And perhaps you don’t understand that once you have put on a path down the hill it is impossible to reverse direction immediately.

          • lana ward

            Obama said Bush was unpatriotic for spending so much. Obama has spent over 2 trillion more than Bush in half the time, so WHAT does that make him?????

          • Independent1

            Thomas, Lana knows full well what IT is spewing is total nonsense. It has been corrected countless times about the nonsense of ITS posts and just spews more nonsense to try and rile other posters up. The only plus in possibly responding to IT, is if in doing so, you are informing other posters on this thread which I think you succeeded in doing with your post. Thanks for bringing some new points worth noting to light. But don’t expect Lana not to come out with the same drivel again countless times.

          • plc97477

            There is a lot she doesn’t understand

        • http://www.facebook.com/thomas.bonsell.1 Thomas Bonsell

          That increase in spending by Reagan was the largest in history (not counting war spending) until Baby Bush came onto the scene and increased spending by 11.125% annually (89% total).

    • lana ward

      Janet Napolitano and the DHS REFUSE to tell congress why they have stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo and why they have ordered 3000 tanks. Why??? Why won’t they tell congress what their plans are???

      • kmkirb

        You claim to KNOW this secret that they are keeping secret, lol. It’s all kept secret because they’re coming for YOU, and we can’t wait!!

        • lana ward

          We have a dictator regime, real funny isn’t it!!

          • kmkirb

            YOU Lana Ward = NINCOMPOOP. There is no dictator & no regime. President Obama is a Constitutional Lawyer who knows more about our Constitution & our Bill of Rights than you will ever possess in your little pinky finger, you asinine, right wingnut A$$hat, koolaid drinking batshittery piece of BS. I prayerfully hope NO ONE responds to anymore of your insanity!!

            One more thing, if you ARE really a female, I hope to F%#ck you get pregnant, & find out that if it is to go to term that in the 30th to 33rd week of gestation you find out it is so deformed that you finally have to join the rest of the women who have had to make the unfortunate, grieving & terribly sad decision to abort the child, instead of going full term & have that child DIE in your arms. Although that would serve you right to then go full term & have that child placed in your arms while watching it suffer & then die within 15-30 minutes because your water broke prematurely & caused your own body to crush the child’s lungs so he/she could not survive, no matter the outcome. You truly are a clueless, heartless effing C#NT!!

          • lana ward

            You’re a nasty skank. Most OHitler voters are. He is a communist muslim queer. Everything he has done has hurt America. Real funny , isn’t it!!!! Heil OHitler dictator!!

          • kmkirb

            LOL at the schoolyard bully who can dish it out but can’t take it. Lana Ward = the skank to top all skanks. It’s pretty damn blatantly obvious that no one on these threads agree with any of your self serving, & lying batshittery. I wish I could shake President Obama’s hand for having the fortitude to even want for his haters to have a decent & better life.

            Oh the two-faced hypocrisy!!! President Obama gets on his whittle rug on his knees with his whittle cap & prays to ‘Allah’, but yet had to defend himself from the rabid rightwing nuts about Rev. Wright. You can’t have it both ways you looney tune.

            LOL, the same half black/half white president who eats pork, & not only drinks beer, but has his recipes on the WH site. Muslims don’t eat pork or drink beer. And that’s a fact as I have several friends who are muslim. You’re nothing but an islamaphobe, a racist, & more than likely an anti-Semite.

            Go back to your Faux News Lana, which is owned by a real muslim. Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal is the second-largest shareholder of News Corp., which owns Fox News [Fox Business Network]. The 1st being Austrailian born Rupert Murdoch.

          • lana ward

            OHitler is a Sunni muslim , like it or not. He was raised by communists and muslims. He is a queer. His marriage is a sham to cover that fact. 5 years of him “running” the country, he has run it into the ground. He is a fraud and a traitor and should be executed!!!!!

          • kmkirb

            Prove it top skank!! Provide those resources. Otherwise shut your pie hole that’s only blowing hot air by your vile hateful empty headedness.

          • lana ward

            Do a little investigating, find it for yourself. Until then,STFU until you know what you are talking about, skank

          • kmkirb

            LOL, no, no, & nooo!!! You made the claims, not me. I do NOT have to prove a damn thing top skank. I do way more than my fair share of research & investigating & make sure the truth & FACTS are out there. I, as well as most everyone else on this thread, other than you, already know the truth.

            We provide the links & resources when we make claims, not just put out BS spewing crap such as yourself. You are a vile, evil, hateful little troll, but you’ll get nowhere else with me. All you want to do is trade barbs, & it stops here! Tis no wonder most ignore you! It’s the best thing to do, DON’T FEED THE TROLLS, especially since you’re bought & paid for slimy pond scum. Done with Lana the mental midget!!!

          • lana ward

            Check out the site, Pat Dollard if you’re not a coward, skank

          • kmkirb

            LOL! No wonder you are the dregs on society. Go back to your rubber room & your straight jacket with your FEAR [False Evidence Appearing REAL]!!

            Anyone that believes these backwater conspiracy theorists such as Pollard, Breitbart, Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Faux News, et al., seriously has mental issues that only a deep coma or a hot shot might fix. These people all do this to bring the uneducated & non-critical thinkers such as yourself into their realm all under the guise of false truth simply for money, & you fall for it hook, line, & sinker while they sit back & laugh at you while they’re doing it.

            You are seriously deranged. The mental midget to top all mental midgets, empty headed gray matter that is like cement, thoroughly mixed & permanently set. I’m done with Luna the lunacy. I will not respond to anymore of your crazy a$$hat dimwittedness, you paid troll!

          • lana ward

            These people are telling the truth. All you dimwits on the left will find out it’s true–loser skank

  • David Turrentine

    It woould help If Catholic Republicans like Paul Ryan would listen to their spiritual leader, but that is unlikely, considering that they prefer their atheist leader Ayn Rand to their spiritual leader.

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      The problem with this is which leader, from the Old Testament or the New Testament?

      If he listens to the old one, we’re all dead. If he listens to the new, we’ll all be classified insane.

      Best advice I could give him is to listen to the people. Makes a lot more sense.

      • whodatbob

        Catholic leaders are conflicted. On birth control abortion and gay marrage they are conservitives. Most other issues Church leaders are liberal.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KOPKDFAUQPIIRAFI3HEXNMSHLQ Ed

        When repubs speak of the buible they only mean the first half.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1362702462 Madelaine Ayers Henne

      I’m not so sure about listening to his spiritual leader. I’ve heard some of these “leaders” and it ain’t much different than the GOP!

  • Gary Adams

    Also how it allows the most phoney of media to speak in it’s name for them.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    The GOP message is rife with deceit. They’ll say anything to honor the Norquistian Emperor and they simply don’t care what it does to the rest of the country. So what we do about it? We go blithely amid the GOP crowds, continue to make buffoons of them until they wake up to the fact that they are perceived by the masses as “village idiots.” Today’s GOP cannot remotely be considered men of intelligence. Not when you look at who they consider their “front runners.” They can run him out front all they like…he’s got zero to offer those they dumped mass hardship on from the minute they allowed a 3-time loser to be “front” man for Cheney’s back room presidency. That will NEVER happen again. It’s also why righties so detest this president. He’s a man who speaks for himself…not through a Cheney megaphone mouth type.

    • jointerjohn

      That party has devolved to the point that if you removed the “deceit” they’d be left with nothing else. Like taking the chocolate out of M&Ms, nothing but the candy coating left behind. The reason you don’t see men of intelligence amongst their leadership is that the republican party has swapped intelligence for cleverness. They think it is clever to deceive people, pull shady deals, confound legislative progress and misrepresent their policies to get low-information voters to fall for it. Just look at the slimy snake-oil salesmen they revere! Donald Trump! They cannot admit to themselves that it is their product that stinks, not the packaging. As the great comic George Carlin once said about marketing, “even if the great Campbell’s Company made Cream of Botulism Soup, nobody would buy it.”

  • http://twitter.com/MarkMcKennon Mark McKennon

    So Priebus says: “It’s not just what we say; it’s how we say it.”
    But PriebusRyanRoveCantorBoehner in their “leadership” are doing what most people would abhor in a colleague or a neighbor: talking out of both sides of their mouths. Some definitions of that are: selling used car lemons, hypocrisy, unethical, and bait-and-switch, for starters. And that their packaging–”how we say it”–and selling of the product can somehow, in the land of denial and delusion where many of them dwell, disguise the suspicion that the box holds too little of substance that would compel people to buy it. They have lost objective contact with their own marketing and promotion, and are in the zone in which their shrewd propaganda (honed for decades of insular or circular reasoning and cultish adherence to think-tank principles) seems like gospel. So full of themselves, they just spent an entire weekend preaching to their own choir. But their emperors have no clothes, the party bosses have all the answers to questions they don’t honestly try to understand, and their endless argument is always ad hominem: the only way to build ourselves up is to tear the others down. Some people build castles in the air; the Republicans seem to live in them. Meanwhile, the vast majority of the country will gravitate to populism and social justice (e.g., Elizabeth Warren and the Consumer Financial Protection Board vs. no financial transaction tax but billions in cuts for school budgets), for while the Republicans and Tea Party proclaim (smugly) that they will rebuild America, many Americans suspect or can see outright that they are same ones refusing to take the readily available steps to do just that. So the only party the Republicans should be focused on is the one that celebrates the dawn of their new, more self-analytical and more open-minded political philosophy.

  • CPAinNewYork

    How can a party headed by a guy named Reince Priebus ever hope to link with the common people? I mean, the name itself reeks of aristocracy, privilege and just about everything else that Americans find to be anathema.

    • whodatbob

      Well said! :-)

      • lana ward

        Why has Janet Napolitano and the DHS REFUSED to answer congress on WHY they have stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo??? Why won’t they answer????

  • jnsgraphic

    Republicans are bringing condemnation upon themselves and will say anything for VOTES!!! Growth and Opportunity, Paths to Citizenship… we just don’t buy their self-righteous policies regarding the middle class, immigration, gay marriage, healthcare, seniors, etc. These hypocrites claim to be Christian, yet if Christ came to their door seeking shelter, they would look at him as another homeless person and turn him away! These are the same people that turn there backs on middle class America, demand cuts to the programs that help them and then turn around and give it to the rich. Republicans love their party more than their country, love war more than peace, and money more than anything else… party first, people last.

    • Independent1

      I agree completely! I couldn’t have said it better!! Thanks!!

  • Mark Forsyth

    Seems they think that everyone is as stupid as they are.They certainly fill their ranks and surround themselves with those that are.How does one deal with those who are so insistantly,obstinately,and willfully ignorant.They sell their souls for a buck.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1362702462 Madelaine Ayers Henne

      At least 50% ARE as stupid as they are!!

      • Independent1

        And that’s what’s sad. That there are actually almost 50% of Americans that buy into the obvious devil worship of the GOP with their entire focus on MONEY ABOVE ALL ELSE. And even to delusionally believe there is something Christian in it; or even of true benefit to THEM. What most GOP sheeple fail to see, is that GOP lelgislators and presidents have done nothing over the past 30 years but to do everything they can, to separate money from taxpayers’ pockets and collect in into their own pockets and those of their rich donors. There’s is really very little difference between the GOP and the Italian Mafia, except that unfortunately, the GOP probably has closer control of our country’s politics than the Italian Mafia may have over Italian politics.

        • lana ward

          What’s really sad is half of the country is Godless, just like their leader. And they believe in murdering babies

          • Mortalc01l

            Scott DesJarlais’s problems were made public during the final weeks of the last election. According to transcripts from the post-separation trial, the congressman, a former physician and hospital chief of staff, carried on sexual relationships with several patients, coworkers and a drug company official. DesJarlais also allegedly prescribed drugs to one of the patients he had an affair with and provided her with lavish gifts, including an expensive watch and plane tickets.

            Among the other explosive revelations in the documents: that DesJarlais, who swept into office in the tea party wave of 2010 and billed himself as a social conservative, supported his ex-wife’s decision to have two abortions prior to their marriage. He also apparently asked one of the patients he had an affair with to get an abortion.

            COME ON LANA… EXPLAIN THIS?

          • lana ward

            I TOLD YOU!! He is really a dem, not a Republican!!! YOU EXPLAIN THIS!! Why has Obama stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo?? WHY has he purchased 3000 tanks to use on Americas streets?? WHY has he ordered shooting targets depicting average American citizens?? WHY has training for martial law started in NC ??

          • Mortalc01l

            Here she is folks.. Lana the LIAR; proven by her own words and deeds in this discussion thread; she’s an unrepentant liar of epic proportions, pretending that a REPUBLICAN Congressman is a Democrat; a Republican Congressman that forced his OWN WIFE to have two abortions and then tried to force his mistress to have one as well.

            LIAR… LIIIIIIIIIIIAR.. Lana, you have no clue what reality is do you? He’s a Republican; he’s listed as a Republican on the House of Congress Web site and on his OWN Web Site, so you have just proven to the World that you’re nothing but a stinkin’ LIAR.

            Doesn’t it worry you that you’re going to hell for lying Lana? You PRETEND to be a Christian with your fake concern for clumps of cells and fetuses, but REALLY, you ARE going to hell for lying all the time; God knows you’re a liar Lana and he will punish you by condemning you to a lake of fire for eternity for being such a wicked, unredeemed LIAR..

          • lana ward

            You really need to chill. You are WAAAAY to wound up!!! Calm down, take a nice hot bath, and tell me WHY Obama has stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo!!!!

          • Mortalc01l

            I notice that you CAN’T answer the question Lana. So you’re a LIAR and unable to answer a simple question without changing the subject to something that is irrelevant.

            Why are YOU a murderer Lana? There are children out there that need a home because of people like you, but you only care about zygotes, not REAL children; if you had an ounce of Christian compassion, you would have adopted dozens of unwanted children but instead you let them starve and die; YOU’RE a murderer Lana, due to your inaction and due to your lunatic views…. Go ahead an prove that you REALLY care and adopt a poor child that will probably die of starvation; adopt 10 Ethiopian children so that they can live…. If you do NOT then you can count yourself as a murderer Lana.

          • lana ward

            I notice that you can’t answer the question, mort. Why has you’re leader stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo? How many of us does he plan on shooting?? Why has he ordered shooting targets depicting Americans?–To eliminate “hesitation” to kill in upcoming, planned war on anti-Obama population. Why has he ordered 3000 tanks to use on American streets? I saw where you said it is good for your imagination to get a bit “loony”–now come back to reality and answer my questions. You can’t LOL!!!

          • Mortalc01l

            Lana, you are the one that started the whole conversation re: abortions etc, then you started wailing on like an insane person (which you truly are by the way) on a totally different subject; it’s not my fault that you have the mental capacity of a 4 year old and can’t focus on the discussion at hand.

            I will answer YOUR question when I get a rational, cogent explanation for why you are a LIAR and why you won’t address the questions I asked first. Until that time, you can expect ZERO sympathy from me on your bizarre change in direction away from a the subject under discussion, namely Republican Congressman and supposed Christian and anti-abortionist, Scott DesJarlais and the fact that he MADE his Wife have TWO abortions, then got his mistress pregnant and tried to make her have an abortion as well…

            Come on Lana, tell me why Republicans are murderers and killers of babies and tell me why YOU will not adopt little Ethiopian children who will die from hunger?

            The fact that you LIED about Scott DesJarlais and pretended that he wasn’t a Republican, is indicative of the fact that you are mentally deranged when all the proof is that he IS a Republican; it shows you live in a fantasy World of your own making where you just lie and lie and lie about whatever you choose. The rest of us just sit here and laugh at you, for being so pathetic, so obviously sick in the head and such a sad, lost human being.

            In the meantime, it’s fun watching you self-destruct; I have just shown that everything you say can be utterly disregarded as the ramblings of a mad-Woman, who when confronted with a truth she doesn’t like, just lies.

            Again Lana, how does it feel to know that you will burn in hell for eternity for lying so often; God knows you;re a liar and will punish you for it, you big LIAR.

          • lana ward

            You dumb fuck! I told you twice I don’t know. Now you tell me WHY your leader has stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo., why has he ordered shooting targets depicting average Americans, why has he ordered3000 tanks to use on Americas streets and why has training for martial law started in NC?? If you can’t answer just say so, otherwise–like Dick Cheney told Pat buzzard Leahy–GO FUCK YOURSELF

          • Mortalc01l

            HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! How does it feel to be such a loser and a liar Lana; what do you mean “I don’t know”??

            So clueless and such a terrible liar. You can’t even answer a simple question and so you have proven two things about yourself:

            1. You are a perpetual liar
            2. You have no ability to form rational, defensible thoughts.

            To the rest of the posters here you are an object of pity and scorn.

            My work here is done.

          • lana ward

            Why is your leader doing all these things? Coward, you can’t answer because MSM won’t say anything bad about the little bitch in the WH. You really need to be more informed, loser

          • lana ward

            Why is the DHS refusing to answer Congress why they have stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo??? Why won’t they answer WHY they have ordered 3000 tanks???

          • lana ward

            Obama said we would save $2200 a year with Ocare. Now we know premiums will go up 200%!!!! WTF is up with that???

          • lana ward

            HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! How does it feel that YOU put such a loser in power and is destroying MY country, you traitor!!

          • lana ward

            I have posted this to all of your friends here. NONE will answer me . WHY????

          • plc97477

            Thank you for a job well done.

          • roguerunners

            Here is an answer for you…
            They are stocking up to defend themselves from FREAKS LIKE YOU!

          • lana ward

            Why did the dems vote to keep the WH closed to the public. WTH is going on in there that they don’t want Americans to know about??? Ocare could increase premiums by 200 percent. Obama designed it to fail as a setup for complete Gov takeover of industry, everybodys’ lives!!! Obamas’ ICE Chief, John Morton, admitted that they didn’t have to release 2,228 illegal alien detainees and he admitted many of them are dangerous criminals. SO why would Obama release them????? NJ congressman says the DHS must explain the ammo and armored vehicle purchases. I sure hope we get some answers from this madman, dictator wanna be in MY WH!!!! Do YOU know why this shit is going on???

          • plc97477

            That shit is going on only in your own head dear. There is no way anyone can tell you why your head is doing this to you.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/HFYZP2APYPP7H6PWS2ZDQRWFEQ Hillbilly

            One Correction about DesJarlais, the first abortion happened when he and the woman who was to be his first wife were living together and was having a “difficult time in their relationship” and then the 2nd abortion was after they were married.

          • lana ward

            Why don’t you ask him?

          • Independent1

            No credible news outlet is carrying any of the stories about the 1.6 billion bullets or the absurd purchase of 2700 tanks (which is a fairytale). And the DHS has responded on the bullets. Here’s their response:

            The Department of Homeland Security responded Friday to questions from Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., about why the agency was allegedly planning to buy some 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next five years.

            DHS told Whispers it regularly fills all of its goods and services requirements at one time because it’s cheaper for the agency, and that the 1.6 billion number was misleading because the language of DHS’s purchase said it would need “up to” a certain amount.

            One solicitation by the agency—for training centers and law enforcement personnel—was for “up to” 750 million rounds of training ammunition over the next five years, DHS spokesman Peter Boogaard told Whispers.

            Another five-year contract allows for the purchase of “up to” 450 million rounds of ammunition, he said, and was also for law enforcement. Boogaard noted that the contract would be used by all DHS agencies except the Coast Guard.

            “With more than 100,000 armed law enforcement personnel in DHS, significant quantities of ammunition are used to support law enforcement operations, quarterly qualifications, and training, to include advanced firearms training exercises,” Boogaard told Whispers.

          • lana ward

            You’re a fool!! That’s enough firepower for over 100 years!! They are planning on a civil unrest and willing to shoot us all!!!

          • Independent1

            You’e a basket case. Unlike with Bush, you have absolutely no evidence that Obama has deliberately lied about anything. But with Bush, it was one lie after another: Iraq has WMD, Iraq was looking for Yellow Cake, Iraq was complicicit in 9/11, we don’t torcher (the day the CIA admitted that they had), and on and on and on.

          • lana ward

            Iraqs’ WMDs are in Syria. They were moved there before we invaded Iraq!!! YOU owe George Bush an apology. He is vinicated!!! And you all have been liars for 10 years

          • Independent1

            Lana, you are really a demented idiot. Crawl back under your stupid rock will you!!! What absolute nonsense!!!

          • plc97477

            You really need to start taking your meds more regularly.

          • metrognome3830

            You asked for that! When you bother to reply to Lana that is the kind of answer you get from he and/or she.

          • Mortalc01l

            I am enjoying baiting Lana SOOOO much; it’s hysterical that He/She/IT is so amazingly lacking in rational thought, education and logic. Basically, the more we can get “it” to post, the worse Republicans look..

            It’s a win-win really; I get amused and She/He/It gets to look like an imbecile and paints other Republicans with the same brush.

          • metrognome3830

            OK, as long as you understand that you are not communicating with a sane or rational human. She can go on for several pages and never utter one word of common sense. Have fun! :-)

          • Mortalc01l

            Hey, I have decided to out lunatic Her/He/It, purely for fun. Whatever IT comes up with, I’ll just go more extreme …. It’s good for my imagination to get a bit “loony” on occasion and God knows Lana deserves a bit of tit-for-tat.

          • whodatbob

            Lana you are off as usual caring about the welfare of other people is not Godless. Not caring about others people is as Godless as murdering unborn babies or anyone. Jesus said, what you do to the least of my people you do unto me. The republican s#*$ on those below them, so in the words of Jesus they are s#*$ on Jesus.

        • lana ward

          Why has Janet Napolitano and the DHS REFUSED to answer congress on why they have stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo??? And why they have ordered 3000 tanks to put on Americas’ streets?? WHY WON’T THEY ANSWER!!!!!!!

          • Independent1

            Here it is again!

            The Department of Homeland Security responded Friday to questions from Rep. Tim Huelskamp, R-Kan., about why the agency was allegedly planning to buy some 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition over the next five years.

            DHS told Whispers it regularly fills all of its goods and services requirements at one time because it’s cheaper for the agency, and that the 1.6 billion number was misleading because the language of DHS’s purchase said it would need “up to” a certain amount.

            One solicitation by the agency—for training centers and law enforcement personnel—was for “up to” 750 million rounds of training ammunition over the next five years, DHS spokesman Peter Boogaard told Whispers.

            [READ: Joe the Plumber Is Back and Giving Away a Free AR-15]

            Another five-year contract allows for the purchase of “up to” 450 million rounds of ammunition, he said, and was also for law enforcement. Boogaard noted that the contract would be used by all DHS agencies except the Coast Guard.

            “With more than 100,000 armed law enforcement personnel in DHS, significant quantities of ammunition are used to support law enforcement operations, quarterly qualifications, and training, to include advanced firearms training exercises,” Boogaard told Whispers.

          • lana ward

            You’re a fool. Has this administration EVER told the truth about anything??

          • lana ward

            Obama said we need to create a Civilian National Security Force as big and as strong and as well funded as the Defense Dept. Marine Richard Mason said they never use hollow point bullets for training purposes because they are more expensive. Timothy Huelscamp said DHS refuses to let them know what’s going on and has threatened to back a move to defund the agency if answers were not forthcoming. Police around the country are cutting back on their ammo use because they can’t get anymore. The DHS has it all!!!!! Criminals will LOVE to know this just as they love gun-free zones!! WHAT is this thing in my WH doing???

      • Mark Forsyth

        Without counting those leaning that way who didn’t or don’t vote,I’m not sure I would give them 50%.After all, they didn’t get fifty percent of the vote last election.That being said their numbers are unacceptable.

      • plc97477

        Just the ones who vote for their sorry asses.

      • Michael Kollmorgen

        I can’t blame our Politicians for being as stupid as they are.

        Who I blame is the voter who gets them in office in the first place. And, there is at least 48% of our country, who are totally ignorant, who almost got Mitt Romney elected for President.

        It it weren’t for stupid voters, none of these jerks would have any political power what so ever.

        I’m happy as a Lark that at least 52% of our population got it right. We need to increase that percentage point by a whole lot to keep Republicans at bay.

        • lana ward

          Why has Janet Napolitano and the DHS REFUSED to answer congress, WHY they have stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo??? And WHY they have ordered 3000 tanks to use on American streets

      • plc97477

        I think we can say there is only 47%

  • JDavidS

    Ole Bobby had it right… The GOP really is “the stupid party”… We should be looking for a cure for “Republican”.

    • Mark Forsyth

      KILL IT!!!

      • lana ward

        Kill it like the dems murdering babies??

        • Mortalc01l

          Statistics prove that Republicans actually have and perform more abortions than Democrats Lana. A recent report published by the American Medical Association linked the higher divorce rates that Republican Christians have vs the rest of the USA, to an increased number of abortions performed on and BY by Republican Christians.

          Do you not remember the recent Republican Congressman story??

          Freshman Rep. Scott DesJarlais (R-Tenn.), an anti-abortion rights physician, had a relationship with a patient and tried to persuade her to get an abortion.

          Republicans are the biggest hypocrites on the planet; do as I SAY, not as I DO is their motto.

          • lana ward

            All the dems talked about at their convention was murdering babies. And had to vote 3 times on weather or not God should be allowed

          • Mortalc01l

            And yet, Republicans actually “murder babies” at a higher rate than Democrats..

            You didn’t address any of the facts Lana, you’re slipping. Again, I ask you about the Republican Congressman, Scott DesJarlais that had a patient as his mistress, then when she got pregnant he told her to get an abortion, even though he’s repeatedly stated his opposition to abortion and he’s a doctor.. Care to address the wretched, sickening hypocrisy of the Republicans like this?

          • lana ward

            You’re a liar just like your leader, dictator. Dems are the baby murderers. The “Republicans ” that murder babies, aren’t Republicans, they’re dems. You’re the one slipping. Why does Charles Rangel want to bring back the draft??

          • Mortalc01l

            You still haven’t answered the question, nor have you replied to the FACT that a Republican Congressman who is supposedly anti-abortion, told his mistress to have an abortion when she got pregnant with his baby.

            The FACTS as reported by the AMA are that Republican Women have more abortions than Democrats; FACT Lana. The truth is something you obviously reject when it doesn’t fit your berserk, mentally deranged agenda.

            Just answer the question; why is a Republican Congressman telling his mistress to have an abortion? Come on Lana, tell me WHY..

          • lana ward

            Why did Obama make it law when Senator, to leave alive aborted babies alone to die without medical attention? Why do dems believe in murdering babies as they are being born? Dems are the Godless party, they are taking God out of everything. Soon saying Christmas will be grounds for a jail sentance. I don’t know why some Republicans believe in murdering babies, I think they should leave the party!! Do YOU believe in murdering babies??

          • Mortalc01l

            Yes, I DO believe in allowing Women to choose what to do with their own bodies; it’s called FREEDOM Lana, something the Fascists Republicans don’t believe in; Republicans pretend they want smaller Government but in fact they LOVE sticking their heads into Women’s vaginas and making laws telling adults what they can and can’t do with their private parts..

            Republicans are all PERVERTS.. Disgusting, sick, perverts that spend all their time worrying about what other people are doing with their “dirty parts”.. Republicans spend all their time in the Mens room in airports sticking their feet under the stalls wanting to hook up on the down low with other Men, then they leave and vote no on gay rights..

            Republicans get abortions for their Wives and mistresses and daughters, but don’t want other people to be able to do the same thing… It’s called HYPOCRISY Lana; look it up and remember that Republicans are all hypocrites like you.

            If you are SOOOOO upset by Women choosing to exercise their constitutional rights to an abortion, then why have YOU not adopted at least 50 poor children?? Well? WHY Lana, WHY? Why do you HATE live born children so much that you won’t adopt a couple of dozen?? Why do you love Fetuses more than real children Lana, WHY???

            I know why… because you are a HYPOCRITE Lana, a disgusting, vile, mentally ill, lying, hypocrite.

          • lana ward

            And you’re a murderer!!! Where is the babies rights?? The baby sure doesn’t have “freedom” Be responsible, don’t get pregnant!! These murderers need to die right along with their baby!!! And abortion Drs. should all be shot!!!!!!!!

          • whodatbob

            Lana, What you do is between you and your God. You have to answer to god for your actions. Women who opt to not carry a baby to full term has to answer to God for her actions. It is not for you are anyone else to judge. Let he who has not sinned throw the first stone.

          • lana ward

            My taxes are going to murder babies and I don’t appreciate it one bit–so I can say what I want

          • Mortalc01l

            And OUR taxes are being used to support you and pay your welfare, as well as your anti-psychotic medications Lana and WE don’t like OUR money being used for THAT!

          • lana ward

            Just because you’re on welfare doesn’t mean everyone else is. Aren’t you old enough to know better. How can your taxes support me when my taxes go to murder babies,dwit??

          • Mortalc01l

            Hey, I’ll continue to murder babies as long as you leech off the rest of us like the welfare queen you have admitted to being; as long as the rest of us have to pay for your meds, we’ll continue to follow the laws and do exactly what REPUBLICAN Congressmen do and that’s force their Wives to have two abortions, then get their mistresses pregnant and try to force HER to have an abortion.

            Explain the Republican position on abortion to us all again Lana? Explain how a Republican Congressman can be an anti-abortion crusader yet force his OWN WIFE to have two abortions?

            I am assuming that YOU had an abortion when you were younger Lana and that’s why you are so vocal about it here; it’s GUILT, isn’t it Lana… guilt that YOU had an abortion……. THAT’S the truth, isn’t it?

          • lana ward

            Murdering an unborn baby never entered my mind. The dems force murdering babies on women. Some have been on Fox and have regreted it since doing it. Murdering babies isn’t natural and plays scary tricks on your mind. I’m sure you don’t care anything about that outcome–you’re just for murder, murder, murder. The more babies, the better!!!!

          • lana ward

            Bush is vindicated!!! Syrias WMD’s are from Iraq from ten years ago. Just what I believed back then!!! YOU ALL OWE BUSH AN APOLOGY

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/HFYZP2APYPP7H6PWS2ZDQRWFEQ Hillbilly

            lana wood couldn’t have had an abortion, it is a male. Probably fills guilty because he forced his girl friend to have an abortion like the Republican Dr Scott DesJarlas tried to force his patient-girl friend to have one and whose girlfriend later wife had 2 abortions.

          • metrognome3830

            See, I warned you, Mortalc01l! If you respond to Lana you will get nowhere. He and/or she is a paid troll. And if she and/or he gets a penny a post, they are greatly overpaid. Save your keystrokes and ignore Lana.

          • Michael Kollmorgen

            You’r wasting your time and energy.

            Most of us have decided NOT to respond to ANY of Lana’s Comments.

          • kmkirb

            Agreed. Paid troll & RWNJ shill is all IT is.

        • plc97477

          too late they are way too old to abort

      • plc97477

        yes put it out of all our misery.

        • lana ward

          Why has Janet Napolitano and the DHS REFUSED to answer congress on WHY they have stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo???? And 3000 tanks to use on Americas’ streets??? WHY????

      • lana ward

        Why has Janet Napolitano and DHS REFUSED to answer congress on WHY they have stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo??? And refuse to answer WHY they have ordered3000 tanks to use on Americas’ streets. WHY!!!!

    • lana ward

      Are they stupid because they don’t believe in murdering babies like the dems do???? Murdering babies is really smart

      • JDavidS

        Right lana… Your ilk waits until they’re old enough to serve in the military and then sends them off to be killed or maimed in bullshit wars looking for “weapons of mass destruction” that don’t exist.

        • lana ward

          The dems approved of the wars and the dems believe in murdering babies. Charles Rangel (dem) wants the draft back

          • JDavidS

            Just how much does your crack habit cost you a day, lana?

          • lana ward

            Not as much as your lying leader costs you everyday. You are SO uninformed!!! Why does Charles Rangel want to bring the draft back???

          • JDavidS

            As long as we’re asking pithy little questions, lana, why does Bobby call it the stupid party? (I can hardly wait for this answer!)

          • lana ward

            Because they let the dems run all over them–It’s coming to a stop!! Why does Charles Rangel want to bring back the draft???

          • JDavidS

            Not even close, lana. As for Rangel, just Google his name and “military draft”. You’ll have your question answered. But you probably won’t like that answer. Now, seriously, that’s the best you could come up with? “Dems run all over them…”. Seriously?

          • lana ward

            Why has Obama stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo?? Why has Obama ordered 3000 tanks to use on streets in America? Why has Obama ordered shooting targets depicting average American citizens? Why has training for martial law begun in NC??

          • JDavidS

            lana, put down the crack pipe.When’s the intervention?

          • lana ward

            It’s ALL true, look it up, then pick up your crack pipe!!

    • lana ward

      Why has Janet Napolitano and the DHS REFUSED to answer congress on WHY they have stockpiled billioms of weapons and ammo???? Why won’t they answer why they have ordered 3000 tanks???

    • lana ward

      Why has Janet Napolitano and the DHS REFUSED to answer congress on WHY they have stockpiled billions of weapons and ammo and why they have ordered 3000 tanks—WHY won’t they answer???

  • Rick2101

    Cutting anything that may help or benefit someone else seems to be the orthodox Republican answer to everything.
    I have tried to be a centrist, not too conservative not too liberal, for years, but it just seems like the radical right is just wrong. The core Republicans idea of limited
    government means just to provide police, fire, and a large military to protect
    the homes of the wealthy, their way of life, their personal wealth. I believe the conservative wealthy and those they have snookered view that these are the only things taxes should pay for, so everyone should pay taxes only to protect the wealthy and their way of life. However, when it comes to education to help ordinary Americans achieve some form of success or get healthcare to perform at our best, well you are on your own. The wealthy have the means to pay for the best healthcare and the best education that money can buy. Therefore, the idea that they should pay taxes to help others is unconstitutional, or even perverse to them. It is like, why should they
    help anyone to become educated and healthy enough to challenge their
    ascendancy. It is almost a Medieval Europe mentality, where the feudal lords had the best of everything but the peasant masses had to fend for themselves. The ordinary person are the ones who need a tax structure to help them achieve and maintain a decent life, the exact thing the conservative wealthy do not want to help pay for. I believe that is a very self-centered and destructive philosophy.

  • elw

    Of course they do not get it, they are far too radical and like all radicals so tied up in what they believe that they are blind to the world around them. I personally am looking forward to the day that they no more than a page in history. It will be a very good day for this Country.

    • Mark Forsyth

      Amen to that.

  • july860

    So its pretend you like the poor and middle class while your trying to get elected, then screw them. (“Especially during presidential elections”)! Their wet dream is doing away with all unions, and forcing the poor and middle class to work as slaves in order for their masters to make as much money as possible for their masters. What they are doing is so obvious, I can’t understand why everyone doesn’t see it.

    • Mark Forsyth

      I could offer you various reasons why everyone does not see it but I’m sure you can come up with the reasons yourself.Instead I will offer you a couple quotes that if nothing else,indicates how long America has been dealing with these problems.” The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact.Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity,every crack in the common front against fascism.They claim to be super patriots,but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution.They demand free enterprise but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest.Their final objective toward which all their deciet is directed is to capture political power so that,using the power of state and the power of the market simultaneously,they may keep the common man in eternal subjection” Henry Wallace 1944; “The government,which was designed for the people,has got into the hands of the bosses and their employers,the special interests.An invisible empire has been set up above the forms of democracy” Woodrow Wilson; “Corporations,which should be the carefully restrained creatures of the law and the servants of the people,are fast becomming the peoples masters.” Grover Cleavland.A rather daunting task to be clean of all this,wouldn’t you agree? Education is the key to enlightening those who are still incapable of seeing things for what they are.But even then there will be those who will disregard the information as inconvenient.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001949604931 Pedro John

    CLOSING THE LOOP HOLES IS NOT A TAX INCREASE .

    James 5 (NIV) Warning to Rich Oppressors

    5 Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.[a] 6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.

    • Michael Kollmorgen

      I couldn’t have said it any better……………….

  • http://mysite.verizon.net/vzepr1xp/index.html unsean

    As scary a thought as a Republican Presidency is, everyone should keep in mind that unless we do something about their gerrymandering in the House, they won’t necessarily need the highest office in the land–thought they really do want it–to wreck their peculiar type of havoc.

    And as others have said, what you say matters less that what you so, and Republicans have had it out for anyone that has to struggle to make a living for as long as I can remember.

  • onedonewong

    The taxpayers get the GOP message and agree. Unfortunately its the 47% who are taking from the producers that are opposed to their plan and want to continue to add to the debt that newborns are saddled with…$150,000 EACH

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HFYZP2APYPP7H6PWS2ZDQRWFEQ Hillbilly

      Go back to the Country that you immagrated(spell check not working) from since you think the Republicans are so great, since you seem to have come from a Country where the Government works the way the Republicans want our government to work for the rich only.

      • onedonewong

        The only countries that function like you wish the US does are Russia, China, Cuba, Venezula and Germany in the 1930′s and 40′s

  • howa4x

    One giant problem for the GOP is what the governors are doing in the states. This is where the tea party agenda is being implemented, and the results don’t bode well for the national party. Consider Wisconsin Paul Ryan’s home state during his VP run, was won by Obama. This happened as a reaction to what the tea party Governor’s policies are against public unions, or Virginia where a trans vaginal ultra sound bill was proposed, that democrats carried, or the right to work for less legislation that was signed in key battleground states like Michigan, and Indiana where tea party candidate Murdoch lost. His godly views on abortion didn’t help. It is also the GOP states where voter suppression is the norm and also the states that Obama care will not be implemented. Gov Scott of Fla had to back pedal on the Medicaid expansion after a chorus of negative publicity was directed at him. He is a Tea Party GOP governor in single digit approval ratings. Gov Perry of Texas also refused the Medicaid expansion even though his state has the highest number of uninsured in the country. The GOP states have the most liberal gun laws and the highest murder rates. This is even after polls showed that over 80% of the public wants background checks. These states are completely opposed to same sex marriage and the liberalization of the soft drug laws for cannabis.
    So forget about what the national party is saying in DC. The GOP at the state level is doing more damage to the brand than Obama could ever do

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