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Rudy Giuliani Offers New Excuse For Trump Seizing Classified Files

Rudy Giuliani, ex-New York City mayor and personal attorney to former President Trump, introduced a new line of reasoning to the trove of Trumpworld excuses for Trump’s alleged possession of classified material — he was "protecting" them at his Mar-a-Lago estate.

In an appearance on the far-right channel Newsmax, Giuliani admitted that Trump possessed classified documents and was doing the government a solid by “preserving them.”

“And now, they want to make [Trump] responsible for having taken classified documents and preserve [sic] them.”

Appearing to realize the gaffe, Giuliani paused briefly and went on to argue that Trump’s audacious repossession of classified material wasn’t tantamount to violating the Espionage Act.

“Really, if you look at the Espionage Act, it’s not really about taking the documents,” Giuliani told Newsmax’s Robb Schmitt. “It’s about destroying them. Or hiding them. Or giving them to the enemy. It’s not about taking them and putting them in a place that’s roughly as safe as they were in in the first place.”

Critics of the former president quickly piled on the embattled ex-Trump lawyer for excusing Trump for safekeeping classified material somewhere than the secure facilities they’re legally required to be maintained.

Prominent national security expert Brady Moss called Giuliani’s defense “100% false.”

Unperturbed by a query about the Democratic criticism he was facing over his legal troubles, Giuliani questioned the intelligence of his fellow Americans and dredged up false claims of voter fraud in the 2020 elections.

"If the American people don't know what's going on by now, then our country could possibly be too dumb to be a democracy," the disgraced lawyer ranted. "I mean, it is quite obvious that they will frame him with every single thing they've got."

"And if you don't realize they stole the election, there's something wrong here,” Giuliani fumed, invoking the Big Lie, despite facing disbarment for repeatedly peddling lies of a stolen election in hopes of overturning President Biden’s victory.

Panicked 'Fake Electors' Ask Judge To Remove Willis From Georgia Probe

The ongoing investigation in Georgia into the Former President Trump and his associates’ efforts to influence the state’s general election results has picked up steam in recent weeks, ensnaring seven Trump associates and the fake electors who sought to overturn the electoral college results.

In a recent court filing Tuesday, a group of 11 fake Georgia electors asked a judge to disqualify Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis from her investigation into Trump and his allies’ attempted influence in the state’s election result.

Last month, Willis’ office alerted all 16 fake electors that they were “targets” of the Georgia election investigation and could face charges. The alternate Republican elector group comprised the Georgia GOP Chair David J. Shafer, Republican candidate for lieutenant governor Burt Jones, county-level Republican officials, a former state lawmaker, and local conservative activists.

The judge presiding over the special grand jury aiding Willis’ investigation, Robert McBurney of the Superior Court of Fulton County, previously refused to quash subpoenas for all electors. However, last month, McBurney stopped Willis from investigating Jones because her appearance at a fundraiser for Jones’ Democratic opponent constituted a “conflict of interest.”

The group seeking Willis’ disqualification argued in the court filing that they were "inextricably intertwined" with Jones and beseeched the court to "reconsider its order limiting the scope of the DA and her office's disqualification and instead order that the disqualification applies to the entire investigation and all subsequent proceedings," CNN reported Wednesday.

"Indeed, because Senator Jones has been removed from this investigation, there is arguably an even greater likelihood that the officers of his campaign partners, his running mates, his financial supporters, and his key political allies could be treated even more harshly," the court filing read, according to CNN.

The fake electors asked McBurney to at least curtail Willis’ power to investigate them as he reduced her power to probe Jones if he was unwilling to disqualify her from the case.

The request is the latest development in the controversy surrounding Willis’ fundraiser for Charlie Bailey, the Democratic candidate for Georgia lieutenant governor, which the district attorney’s lawyers argued in previous court filings “provides no basis for disqualification nor amounts to a conflict of interest in overseeing the grand jury,” per CNN.

For months, Atlanta-area prosecutors have presented troves of evidence and witness testimony to the special grand jury in an inquiry that has swept up several top Trump allies, including former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and ex-Trump attorneys Jenna Ellis and John Eastman, both of whom authored memos falsely asserting that former Vice President Mike Pence could overturn electoral college results.

Last month, lawyers for several fake electors decried Willis’ investigation as a “publicity stunt” and promised to plead the Fifth Amendment in their depositions. The electors also labeled the investigation as “political interference” born of “local passion and prejudice.”

The electors aren’t the only Republicans battling to get out of testifying before the special grand jury.

Graham’s request to avoid grand jury testimony on immunity grounds was rejected Monday by a federal judge. On Wednesday, Ellis was ordered by a judge to appear for testimony before the special grand jury in Georgia.

Giuliani — who a judge ordered to testify even if he had to travel by “Greyhound” bus — appeared Wednesday in a grand jury session that lasted several hours and told reporters outside the courthouse that he had “satisfied his obligation.”

Judge Orders Trump Lawyer Ellis To Testify Before Georgia Grand Jury

The chickens are coming home to roost for Former President Trump’s inner circle members who reportedly lent their expertise and services to the ex-president’s crusade to subvert democracy and hold on to power after losing his re-election bid.

As former Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani, who a judge compelled to appear for deposition, testified in Georgia Wednesday, the Fulton County district attorney’s attention shifted to another former Trump lawyer reportedly deeply involved in the now-infamous 2020 coup attempt — Jenna Ellis.

Ellis, a senior legal adviser to the Trump 2020 campaign, was ordered Thursday by a judge in Colorado to testify before a special grand jury in Atlanta investigating “attempts to disrupt the lawful administration of the 2020 elections in the State of Georgia.”

Judge Gregory Lammons of the Eighth Judicial District Court of Colorado reached the decision after a hearing on Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’ request that Ellis testify before the special grand jury.

During the hearing in the Larimer County courthouse in Fort Collins, an attorney for Willis’ office, Will Wooten, testified that Ellis’ testimony was “material” and “necessary” to the grand jury’s investigation.

According to CNN, Wooten outlined five areas of interest for seeking Ellis’ testimony: the legal memos she authored the week before January 6, 2021, about the contested election results; investigators’ belief she played a part in planned hearings before the state’s lawmakers; her social media posts peddling debunked lies of election fraud; the media interviews in which she parroted the Big Lie; and any other "unique knowledge" she possesses about Trump’s associates.

Lammons said the case was about "one witness in this state testifying in another state" and that testifying before a grand jury did not pose an “undue burden” on Ellis, according to CNN.

Willis’ rapidly escalating investigation — which has embroiled several Trump allies and incurred scrutiny for the desperate yet failed crusade to overturn the former President’s loss — came alive early last year after Trump, in a mafia-style phone call, pressured a top Georgia election official to “find” enough votes to ensure his victory.

However, it has since become clear that the scope of Willis’ investigation extends well beyond that call, as motions were filed last month seeking testimony from seven Trump associates, including Ellis, Giuliani, and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

Ellis’s subpoena, which was issued in July, identifies her as “an attorney for the Trump Campaign’s legal efforts seeking to influence the results of the November 2020 election in Georgia and elsewhere.”

Willis also noted that Ellis’s actions appeared to be “part of a multi-state, coordinated plan” orchestrated by the Trump campaign to steal the election, and investigators hoped that her testimony will “reveal additional sources of information” pertaining to alleged criminal misconduct related to the 2020 general elections.

Ellis, the subpoena said, possessed “unique knowledge concerning the origin of numerous claims of election fraud alleged in legal filings and to the public” made by herself and Trump and his allies.

Wilis noted that Elis appeared with Giuliani at a December 3, 2020, state Senate committee hearing at the Georgia Capitol during which they made baseless "fraud" assertions.

NBC News reported Wednesday that Fulton County prosecutors had purchased plane tickets and made a hotel reservation for Ellis to testify on August 25.

Giuliani Testifies In Georgia Grand Jury On Illegal ​​2020 Election Meddling

(Reuters) - Rudy Giuliani, Donald Trump's onetime personal lawyer, arrived at an Atlanta courthouse on Wednesday to testify in a Georgia criminal probe examining attempts by the former U.S. president and his allies to overturn the 2020 election results.

Giuliani, who helped lead Trump's election challenges, was due to testify before a special grand jury in Fulton County after a judge ordered him to comply with a subpoena. His lawyers say he will refuse to answer questions that violate attorney-client privilege.

The former New York City mayor, 78, appeared before Georgia state lawmakers in December 2020, echoing Trump's false conspiracy theories about stolen ballots and urging them not to certify Democratic President Joe Biden's victory over the Republican Trump.

"It's a grand jury and grand juries, as I recall, are secret," Giuliani told CNN on his arrival at the courthouse, when asked to comment on his testimony. "They ask the questions and we'll see."

The Fulton County probe began after a January 2021 recorded phone call in which Trump urged the state's top election official to "find" enough votes to alter the outcome. The former president has asserted falsely that he won Georgia, as well as the 2020 presidential contest.

The special grand jury was convened in May at the request of county District Attorney Fani Willis.

Giuliani, a former crime-fighting U.S. Attorney, was among several Trump advisers and lawyers who received subpoenas from the grand jury last month, including Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC).

(Reporting by Rami Ayyub, editing by Ross Colvin and Howard Goller)


Facing Indictment, Giuliani Says 'We're Living In A Fascist State' (VIDEO)

Former President Donald Trump's embattled personal attorney and ex-New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani complained in an appearance on Newsmax that Monday's revelations that he is a "target" in Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney Fani Willis' Georgia's investigation into Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election are evidence that the United States is descending into fascism.

“It’s just a further desecration of the Sixth Amendment. I was his lawyer of record in that case. The statements that I made are either attorney-client privileged because they were between me and him, or they were being made on his behalf in order to defend him," Giuliani said. "When you start turning around lawyers into defendants when they're defending their clients, we’re starting to live in a fascist state. Look, I’ve already had my law office raided. I never thought I'd ever see that happen."


Multiple media reports have indicated that Giuliani, who is scheduled to testify before a special grand jury in Atlanta on Wednesday, "should expect to be indicted" in Willis' ongoing criminal probe. Reuters noted that Giuliani has already claimed that he "would refuse to answer any questions about Trump that would violate attorney-client privilege."

But therein lies a potential problem for Giuliani, because attorney-client privilege is not assertable when knowledge of or participation in a crime exists. According to NOLO, "the crime-fraud exception applies if the client was in the process of committing or intended to commit a crime or fraudulent act, and the client communicated with the lawyer with intent to further the crime or fraud, or to cover it up."

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Reprinted with permission from Alternet.

Giuliani Must Travel For Georgia Grand Jury -- Even By Greyhound Bus

Rudy Giuliani, former President Trump’s onetime attorney, must appear before a Georgia grand jury on August 17 even if he has to take the “train or a bus or Uber,” a judge ruled after Giuliani’s last-minute request to delay his appearance.

Giuliani, a former New York Mayor, had been ordered to testify Tuesday before the 23 members of the special grand jury in Fulton County investigating Trump’s failed bid to influence Georgia’s 2020 presidential election results.

However, Giuliani’s lawyers filed an emergency motion on Monday to delay his appearance, citing two letters by a doctor deeming the 78-year-old unfit to fly because he recently underwent an “invasive procedure.”

In a hearing for the emergency motion Tuesday, Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney, who is overseeing the special grand jury, insisted that Giuliani appear for the grand jury testimony, albeit a week later than initially scheduled.

"The very limited information I have from a doctor, from a very fancy hospital, is that air travel is not compatible with Mr. Giuliani's condition right now. And so that's why I'm saying don't do it by air. That's plenty of time to make the trip — 13-hour drive," McBurney said.

Before the hearing, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis slammed Giuliani’s effort to stall the hearing, saying her office had reviewed records that showed Giuliani in mid-July bought flight tickets to Rome and Zurich, according to CBS News. In her counter filing Monday, Willis also included a tweet that showed the former mayor in New Hampshire.

“We do not consent to change the date,” argued a deputy to Willis in the filing. “We will provide alternate transportation including bus or train if your client maintains he is unable to fly."

The judge agreed and made it clear in Tuesday’s hearing that Giuliani had to present himself for deposition, even it meant employing land-based means of travel.

"John Madden drove all the way over the country in his big bus from stadium to stadium, so one thing we need to explore is whether Mr. Giuliani could get here without jeopardizing his recovery and his health, on a train or on a bus or whatever it would be," McBurney said during the hearing.

Giuliani’s attorney, Bill Thomas, told CNN after the hearing that his client would "explore all the options" for travel, and that he would be “back here” on the 17th.

"If the court orders that he travel by Greyhound to Atlanta, we are going to do what the court orders him to do," Thomas said at the hearing.

Giuliani was a key member of Trump’s inner circle when he attempted to interfere with the results of the 2020 general election in Georgia. In December 2020, Giuliani appeared before the Georgia State Senate and issued bogus accusations of fraud and misconduct by the state’s election officials.

Willis launched her investigation early last year, after a January 2, 2021 phone call between then-President Trump and Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger in which Trump pressured Raffensperger to “find” enough votes to overturn Biden’s victory in the state.

"All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state," demanded Trump.

It’s not yet clear if Giuliani is a target in the grand jury investigation. When Giuliani’s lawyers brought it up in a question Tuesday, McBurney said the prosecutors didn’t need to respond immediately.

Judge Orders Giuliani To Testify Before Georgia Grand Jury

A New York judge has ordered Rudy Giuliani, Trump’s former lawyer and ex-New York City mayor, to testify before a special grand jury in Atlanta that is amassing evidence for its investigation into election meddling in the state’s 2020 presidential election, according to a court filing Wednesday in Fulton County Superior Court.

The ruling was handed down after Giuliani, who was subpoenaed early last month, failed to comply with Manhattan Supreme Court Judge Thomas Farber’s order to appear in court and argue why he shouldn’t comply with the grand jury’s subpoena.

Farber, who was first appointed to the bench by Giuliani, issued an order for him “to appear and testify before the Special Purpose Grand Jury [in Fulton County] on August 9, 2022, and on any other such dates as this Court may order,” Fulton County District Attorney wrote in the filing.

Giuliani, an indefatigable town crier of Trump’s false claims of election fraud, oversaw legal efforts to displace Joe Biden’s electoral victory in key swing states, including Georgia.

Fulton County Superior Court Judge Robert C. I. McBurney reinforced Farber’s ruling by ordering Giuliani to appear before the special grand jury on August 9.

Willis kick-started her criminal investigation into former President Trump and his advisers and allies' possible election interference early last year, shortly after news broke that Trump pressured a state election official to “find” enough votes to overturn Biden’s victory.

The special grand jury was seated in May to aid the district attorney in obtaining testimony from figures who had refused to comply with investigators. Willis said her request for the special grand jury that her team was probing “any coordinated attempts to unlawfully alter the outcome of the 2020 elections in this state.”

Willis issued subpoenas to several out-of-state individuals who peddled Trump’s Big Lie and lent their services to the former president’s failed country-wide campaign to overturn his loss and undermine American democracy. In addition to Guiliana, Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC); far-right attorneys John Eastman, Cleta Mitchell, Jenna Ellis, and Kenneth Chesebro; and Jacki Pick Deason, a conservative conspiracy theory-peddling commentator.

Since these potential witnesses don’t live in Georgia, Willis approached judges in the witnesses’ states to compel their compliance with the subpoenas. In her filing, Willis noted that the subpoena for Giuliani had been presented to a New York judge because the ex-Trump lawyer lived in Manhattan.

Several witnesses have gone to court to challenge the subpoenas, including Graham. He was subpoenaed for information on phone calls he made to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to throw out legally cast mail-in ballots.

The overarching investigation also saw Rep. Jody Hice (R-GA), a Trump ally in Congress who rejected state-certified election results during the electoral vote confirmation, receive a subpoena for his testimony, which he is now in court fighting to dismiss.

Several prominent Georgia Republicans and Trump allies — including Senator Burt Jones, a candidate for lieutenant governor, Georgia Republican Party Chairman David Shafer, and state Senator Brandon Beach — were sent “target letters” by Willis’ office for her investigation.

Almost a dozen fake Georgia fake electors had been subpoenaed to appear before the special grand jury as well, a move their attorneys called “unreasonable and oppressive."

Multiple news outlets contacted Giuliani for comment, but the former Trump point man has stayed mum on recent developments.

‘Outraged’ Rudy And Cronies Insist He Was Sober On Election Night 2020

Rudy Giuliani, the former president’s former attorney, says he is “outraged” by the “lie” he claims was told by former Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien and longtime Trump spokesperson Jason Miller, that he was drunk on the night of the 2020 presidential election. Giuliani suggested he was drinking “Diet Pepsi,” while his official statement says “diet coke.”

In a tweet filled with several typos that he deleted and did not re-post, the man once nicknamed “America’s Mayor” declared: “I am disgusted and outraged at the out right [sic] lie by Jason Miller and Bill Steppien [sic]. I was upset that they were not prepared for the massive cheating (as well as other lawyers around the President) I REFUSED all alcohol that evening. My favorite drink..Diet Pepsi.”

But Politico’s Nicholas Wu catches that while Giuliani says his ‘favorite drink” is “Diet Pepsi,” his “other official statement says he was ‘drinking diet coke all night.'”


He also tweeted and deleted this: “Is the false testimony from Miller and Steppien [sic] because I yelled at them? Are they being paid to lie?”

Stepien did not state Giuliani was intoxicated or inebriated

On Monday House Select Committee Ranking Member Liz Cheney announced during a live broadcast hearing that Giuliani was “apparently inebriated” that night, a claim supported in sworn, separately videotaped testimony by Stepien and Miller.

The Daily Beast adds that “Giuliani’s allies also rushed to his defense. Former NYPD commissioner [and ex-con] Bernard Kerik ripped into Miller while stating Giuliani ‘was not drinking at all.’ The longtime Trumpworld acolyte added while appearing on Steve Bannon’s War Room podcast: ‘I don’t know why he [Miller] made this statement.’ Bannon, a longtime pal of Miller’s, insisted that Giuliani ‘has too much respect for the White House and office of the presidency ever’ [to] be intoxicated like that. Likewise, ex-Trump aide Boris Epshteyn claimed that Giuliani was ‘sober’ that night.”

Reprinted with permission from Alternet.