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Yes, Trump Deserves Comparison To Hitler

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Yes, Trump Deserves Comparison To Hitler

Republican presidential candidate Trump addresses an audience at The Fox Theatre in Atlanta

Yes, Hitler.

Some of you questioned my evocation of history’s great villain in a recent column on House Speaker Paul Ryan’s surrender to presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump. I likened Ryan to Franz von Papen, a German politician who helped Adolf Hitler rise to power under the naive delusion that he could control him.

A handful of Trump fans found that, as one put it, “a bit of a stretch.” One guy expressed his skepticism through the time-honored expedient of the triple punctuation mark: “Hitler???”

Yes, Hitler.

Not that their dubiousness is unreasonable. In recent years, Hitler and the Holocaust have popped up in political debate as routinely as dandelions on the lawn. One man said having to tack a “No Smoking” sign on his building was like being a Jew forced to wear a yellow star; another claimed popular anger over the excesses of the rich was reminiscent of Kristallnacht.

Almost by definition, Hitler and Holocaust comparisons trivialize that era and reveal the ignorant insensitivity of those who make them. But the key word there is, almost.

Because for the record, I’m not the only one who sees the shadow of Germany in the 1930s over America in the 2010s. Once again, a clownish demagogue bestrides the political landscape, demonizing vulnerable peoples, bullying opponents, encouraging violence, offering simplistic, strongman solutions to difficult and complex problems, and men and women who bear more moral authority on this subject than I ever could see something chilling and familiar in him.

“I don’t want to make any comparison to Hitler, but believe it or not his delivery and the way he conducts himself is very similar to Hitler’s way of doing things. He discredits everybody who disagrees with him. He’s insulting. He discriminates against everybody.” So says Martin Weiss.

He’s a survivor of Auschwitz.

“It is repeating itself and it is again the inattention that people pay to real cues that one should understand. … I think one has to speak up. And that’s the one lesson from the Holocaust. Do not be a bystander.” So says Margit Meissner, who fled occupied France on foot through the Pyrenees. Like Weiss, she spoke in January to Washington Post columnist Dana Milbank.

Then there is Eva Schloss, who in January said of Trump, “I think he is acting like another Hitler…” Schloss, who spoke to Newsweek, was the stepsister of Anne Frank.

No, I don’t predict a new Holocaust if Trump bamboozles America into electing him. But some new calamity, inconceivable to us now, but repulsive to the values we claim to hold dear, does seem certain. And that raises a question: If one should never be too quick to make comparisons to Germany in the 1930s, is it not also important, on the rare occasions it is merited, to make sure one is not too slow?

One reason, after all, that no one saw Hitler for what he was is that people simply could not conceive of anything as preposterously monstrous as what eventually occurred. They took refuge in the assurance — the false assurance, as it turned out — that reason would eventually reassert itself.

The failure of imagination is often a component in tragedy. That’s why I’ve always declined to blame the Bush administration for 9/11. Before that, who could have conceived of fanatics using jetliners as missiles?

But afterward is another story. Once you have seen for yourself that the unthinkable is not, it moves from the arena of imagination to that of history. And then, you must use it to understand where we are and help chart where we should — and should not — be going. You can’t blame people who didn’t realize what Hitler was. They had never seen anything like him before.

You and I, however, have no such excuse.

Leonard Pitts is a columnist for The Miami Herald, 1 Herald Plaza, Miami, Fla., 33132. Readers may contact him via e-mail at lpitts@miamiherald.com.

Photo: Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump addresses an audience at The Fox Theatre in Atlanta, Georgia, June 15, 2016. REUTERS/Chris Aluka Berry

Leonard Pitts Jr.

Leonard Pitts Jr. is a nationally syndicated commentator, journalist, and novelist. Pitts' column for the Miami Herald deals with the intersection between race, politics, and culture, and has won him multiple awards including a Pulitzer Prize in 2004.

The highly regarded novel, Freeman (2009), is his most recent book.

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  1. Michael Gordon June 19, 2016

    In this case the glove fits. You can’t acquit.

  2. Box June 19, 2016

    If someone who appears heavy handed can be compared to Hitler, recall the same claim was made about Obama through a variety of examples, not the least of which was his comment that he didnt need Congress, all he needed was a pencil and a phone. Thats called dictatorship and its despicable any president would ever say that, even as a joke. A president is to uphold the laws and not circumvent or rip them to pieces for any reason. What example does that set for people?
    In my time, a president had an agenda and goals. If by following the laws and process he was unable to pass his legislation within his term then too frickin bad and he left office. Obama from the very beginning desired to pass his agenda no matter who is in the way and thats dead wrong. Likewise with Trump, if he cant pass his wall, cant get rid of criminals and non-vetted immigrants, then too frickin bad. I hope he will respect the process as Obama did not want to do and Hillary certainly would not.

    1. Jane June 19, 2016

      well, Trump fits Hitler in 3 ways, he hates everyone not like him, he thinks hes smarter than anyone else and third he draws massive crowds with talk of Hate.

      1. paulyz June 19, 2016

        Wrong on all three assumptions. Trump appeals to, & reaches out to ALL Americans, just not Illegals or unvetted refugees, Trump relates to average Americans, doesn’t talk down to them like Hillary or Obama. Trump has HUGE crowds that want jobs, fair trade, & enforcement of OUR Laws, where do you see hate in that?

        1. greenlantern1 June 19, 2016

          Was Elian Gonzales an illegal alien or not?
          Where was Trump while Attorney-General Janet Reno ENFORCED our immigration laws?
          Want more jobs?
          By DECREASING government spending?
          INCREASING corporate welfare?
          More middlemen?

          1. paulyz June 19, 2016

            Wasn’t Elian sent back Legally to his Father in Cuba? You have a list of meaningless rabble.

          2. jsjca June 20, 2016

            Elain was sent back to Cuba, but Reno had to forcibly removed him from his relatives’ home who refused to obey the law and permit him to return. The right wingers screamed their disapproval of Reno.

          3. paulyz June 20, 2016

            I believe it was the Cuban relatives that did the screaming, and what does this have to do with anything?

          4. jsjca June 22, 2016

            Yes, the Cuban relatives were screaming and so was the Right which supported them. What does this have to do with anything? Really? You were discussing with greenlantern1 the issue of Elian being returned to Cuba legally and whether the Right supported that action, which they did not.

        2. PrecipitousDrop June 19, 2016

          By all of the most recent information, pauly, about 29% of the general electorate might vote for Trump. They didn’t say that they would vote for Trump, they just didn’t reject him like 68% of the rest of the electorate did.
          70% of Women voters reject him
          69% of Hispanic voters reject him (Don’t go there. One must be a citizen to vote.)
          98% of Black voters reject him
          40% of registered Republicans reject him
          Need I go on?
          Save yourself. Don’t be a Chump for Trump.

          1. paulyz June 19, 2016

            Where do you get your “facts”, the daily kos? LNAO. After the primary results came in, Trump did very well in just about all demograpic groups, but you just proved my point, Trump is for ALL Americans, doesn’t break us all down by race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, or ethnicity like you do.

          2. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            “After the primary results came in…” Was WEEKS ago, Pauly.
            Trump’s been tanking in the polls ever since.
            Down 10 points last week alone.
            Trump Chump Loser.

          3. jsjca June 20, 2016

            If Trump supports all Americans, why does he select different groups of Americans to belittle and criticize.

          4. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            jsjca –
            You think Trump has a “Secret Plan?” Y’know, something he hints at, maybe SWEARS TO at the convention, but by September, it’s just a “suggestion?” Like the Muslim ban? And The Wall? And nuclear arms for Japan and South Korea?

          5. paulyz June 20, 2016

            Trump supports AMERICANS, that is the point! Trump will protect AMERICANS, by stopping Illegals as well as allowing tens of thousands of Middle Eastern refugees into our Country, which is the advise of all of our National Security experts. But Obama & Hillary think they know better.

          6. jsjca June 22, 2016

            I am talking about him selecting groups of Americans, i.e. American Muslims must be “watched,” a judge could not judge Trump fairly because he is Mexican even though he was born in the U S, his remarks about women are deplorable.

          7. paulyz June 22, 2016

            Trump wisely believes like most Americans, & our National Security Advisors, that Syrian refugees would be better served by helping them in Middle-Eastern nations, & that it is impossible to properly vette them. The Mexican-American judge is a Hillary supporter, & has been found to be biased against Trump, rendering him in a conflict of interests. Trump has, & does hire many women, even has MORE women than men in his Executive Positions. His daughter is his very highly regarded advisor. You are being manipulated my the media.

          8. PrecipitousDrop June 22, 2016

            Recent reports on the Trump campaign’s latest financial disclosure show he’s in serious trouble. And, the Republican donor base has refused to give him any money. Maybe You can save Mr. Trump’s campaign.
            Sell your house. Sell your cars. Cash in your coin collection, and the baseball cards. Unload the NASCAR plates. Liquidate your savings. Stop making tuition, loan and tax payments. Mr. Trump NEEDS your help, Pauly.
            Win or lose, he’ll pay you back, Pauly. Every cent.
            Trump supports AMERICANS.

          9. paulyz June 22, 2016

            Actually I will take a page from your leftist handbook & redistribute YOUR income, house, your Prius, your LGBT membership, your food stamps, your government benefits, all to Hillary, she’ll send you an IOU from da guberment.

          10. PrecipitousDrop June 22, 2016

            Oh, Pauly!
            Ya Big Dope.
            Help your candidate. He NEEDS your help.
            Sec. Clinton has sufficient funds, We sent them to her. AND we get to keep all our stuff, too!

      2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

        he draws crowds of clowns and brain dead people that hate like him self

        1. Katstiles June 19, 2016

          My 80 year old mother said decent people would be ashamed to be seen at a Trump rally. That pretty much says everything you need to know about Trump!

          1. paulyz June 19, 2016

            Well my 90 year old mother voted for Trump, how about that?

          2. iamproteus June 19, 2016

            Stupidity is hereditary???

          3. paulyz June 19, 2016

            In your case, YES!

    2. idamag June 19, 2016

      It burned a lot of people that a Black man was occupying the White House. In fact they accepted war criminals over a Black President. We have seen treasonous insurrection from the teaparty pea brains. The President has four duties. Two of those are to deal with foreign countries and to appoint “Supreme” Court justices.
      These are guaranteed by Article II of The Constitution of the United States. Every Congressman swears on the Bible to uphold the Constitution and defend it against all enemies, foreign and domestic. They violated the Constitution when they wrote a letter to a foreign country that the President was talking with. They violated the Constitution when they invited a foreign leader to Congress to diss the President. They are violating the Constitution, now when tney are refusing to hold hearings on an appointee. The present Republican Party is un-American.

      1. paulyz June 19, 2016

        Completely false “assumptions”. MILLIONS of White Americans voted for Obama, many later discovered they didn’t like his Socialist Transformation, as did Americans of all races & ethnicities.

        1. greenlantern1 June 19, 2016

          Bush, not Obama, golfed with his comrade, Vladimir Putin!
          The Koch brothers built Putin’s oil wells!
          No wonder Putin is rooting for Trump!

          1. paulyz June 19, 2016

            Putin has Hillary’s hacked emails that she deleted.

          2. Independent1 June 19, 2016

            Is that why 3 million emails are still missing from the Bush, Rove, Cheney, Powell, Rice White House personal computers after 10 years of searching for them?? And when are you going to stop using lies to try and make an idiotic point!! Putin has no emails of Hillary’s – you lying sack of crap!!

          3. paulyz June 20, 2016

            Typical Lefties response, ignoring answering the question by changing the subject.

          4. paulyz June 22, 2016

            Ah green, the Koch brothers do NOT support Trump, but Hillary! hee hee.

          5. greenlantern1 June 22, 2016

            The Koch brothers contribute to the Democrat party?

          6. Dissolute June 28, 2016

            Nope. George (one worlder no borders) Soros certainly does. Let’s not compare corrupt billionaires as that way medness lies.

            We should agree that vast sums of money tends to get us the government THEY paid for.

          7. PrecipitousDrop June 23, 2016

            No, Pauly. The Koch’s do not support Sce. Clinton. Salon magazine has an article denying this claim.
            If I were you, I’d be more worried about the rank and file Republicans who are supporting Sec. Clinton over the disastrous Donald Trump.

        2. bobnstuff June 19, 2016

          Paulyz, Define Socialist and show were Obama was any more socialist the other president. Show the socialist transformation.

          1. paulyz June 19, 2016

            You must be joking! Obama has turned on the afterburners of Socialism, while Woodrow Wilson & FDR were a bit more sneaky. Under Socialism, everything is owned by the State, which had failed miserably in many nations. Obama slipped when he told the Plumber how he would redistribute the wealth. Obama hates Capitalism & would like it ended, & according to Lenin, , “The goal of Socialism is Communism.”

            According to you gullible Liberals, you don’t even have a clue, it’s much more than just allowing the government to run programs, it is the eventual government control & ownership of everything, the exact opposite of what America is, Of the People, NOT Government. We have individual Liberty, not wards of the State. If you continue your naive support of Socialism, soon you will have none.

          2. bobnstuff June 19, 2016

            So what industries have we nationalized? He had better get started taking over industries, he doesn’t have much time left.

          3. paulyz June 19, 2016

            Why Hillary is heir apparent, she will continue. Luckily OUR Constitution thwarted most of his attempts.

          4. bobnstuff June 19, 2016

            So he has yet to nationalize any industries. What industries has he tried to? He should have nationalized health care but instead we has the blood suckers still in charge.

          5. paulyz June 19, 2016

            Bin Laden is dead, GM is alive! BO has set in place many policies that have led, or are leading to Socialism, by his own words, fundamentally transforming Anerica, but OUR Constitution has made it difficult. Yes Obamacare was his first attempt, when he had Complete control of Congress but he squandered much capital on it.

          6. bobnstuff June 19, 2016

            So GM a publicly held company is still alive. Obama care dropped the public option and run by the industry proves Obama is going to make America socialist? As far as government employees, You don’t have the facts.



            What has the IRS or NSA have to do with socialism? If Obama is going to creat a socialist nation he is doing a pretty bad job of it.

          7. Independent1 June 19, 2016

            Can you be even be more ignorant than you are?? I doubt it. You are a mental incompetent. You have no idea what you’re talking about!! None whatsoever!!!

          8. jsjca June 20, 2016

            You have been asked what socialist programs Obama has instituted or tried to, yet you came up with nothing.
            Our Founders would not agree with your characterization as Obama trying to transform America with mandated healthcare. In 1798 Congress, which had many members who had drafted the Constitution, passed a law, which was also supported by Jefferson and was signed by President John Adams. It was “An Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen.” The law authorized the creation of marine hospitals, which were built and operated by the federal government to treat injured and sick privately employed sailors. Further, the law MANDATED that PRIVATELY employed sailors be required to purchase health care insurance to pay for the healthcare service provided by the government. Or, I suppose you could accuse our Founders of being socialists.

          9. jsjca June 20, 2016

            Our Founders would not agree with your characterization as Obama trying to transform America with mandated healthcare. In 1798 Congress, which had many members who had drafted the Constitution, passed a law, which was also supported by Jefferson and was signed by President John Adams. It was “An Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen.” The law authorized the creation of marine hospitals, which were built and operated by the federal government to treat injured and sick privately employed sailors. Further, the law MANDATED that PRIVATELY employed sailors be required to purchase health care insurance to pay for the healthcare service provided by the government. The Founders created a mandated healthcare program yet the earth still spins on its axis.

          10. Independent1 June 19, 2016

            Pauly is too stupid to even know the definition of the word ‘socialism’.

          11. bobnstuff June 20, 2016

            You have noticed that. Had the democrats been socialists we would have gotten a much better health care act. Even Bernie is socialism lite. I believe that if you pulled the labels the right wing media has given Obama and looked at his record you would see that he does most things like a old school republican would. Most of his solutions involve the private sector, he hasn’t grown government and has been good for business.He is more Nixon like then anything else minus Nixon’s mental illness.

          12. Independent1 June 19, 2016

            You haven’t given one example of Obama creating socialism within America, because you don’t even know what the word socialism means!! You are a blithering idiot!!

          13. paulyz June 20, 2016

            Oh, it’s the Dummy again, under his regular name this time. You lefties & Obama admitted you want Socialism. I gave a few examples, let me hear your definition of Socialism, the “real” one, not your fantasy idea brainwashed into your head. p.s. “some government functions is NOT Socialism” when voted on by the People within the framework of OUR Constitution.

          14. paulyz June 20, 2016

            Still waiting for your brainwashed definition of Socialism, if you know, since you are an admitted Communist. Socialism can creep gradually by government regulations as well, and other infringements on our Bill of Rights, but numbskulls like you won’t realize it, or care, until it affects YOU.

          15. Independent1 June 20, 2016

            “Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production;[10] as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment.[

            I’m not sure you have the intelligence to understand that definition lowlife but in short Socialism, is where THE GOVERNMENT RUNS EVERYTHING!!

            Where is our government running all the businesses in America??

            Your last several posts are filled with such idiotic, pathological lying crap, that I’m not even going to respond. No half intelligent poster on the NM is going to believe one of your posts that’s filled with nothing but absurdities and just blatant outright lies.

            You need to go get yourself checked into the nearest insane asylum; you have really gone over the top!!!!!!!!

          16. paulyz June 22, 2016

            Like I have already informed you Dummy, Obama’s ultimate goal is Socialism but it takes time because Americans have been Independent & sucessful under our Free, Capitalist form of Government for several hundred years. It is your beloved Leftist policies, media influence, & Liberal “education”, (which has failed), that have caused the terrible economy, debt, poverty, unemployment & hopelessness of Millions of American Citizens. As mentioned, by excessive regulations & business taxes Democrat-Socialist Government creates the conditions that they need to fundamentally transform OUR Country. Just because Obama “wants something”, doesn’t mean Congress or the People that voted for them, has to grant him his demands. He is just the Executive, not a legislator. Even many Democrats balked at some of Obama’s overreaching government.

            Since when has the Republicans “banned” abortion you leftist fool? Why do women need the Government (People), to pay for their contraception? “ONLY” Christians able to get entry into OUR Country ? Where the hell have you been hiding you gullible fool, besides, under our leftist government, there seems to be anti-White discrimination during the last several decades, as legal & Illegal immigration is almost all non-White, & now Obama, & a far greater extent Hillary, they are going for huge numbers of non-Christians.

            You are without a doubt, one of the most blatantly lying leftist activist around, an admitted Communist, & full of leftist mis-information. Good-day Dumb-Ass.

          17. Independent1 June 22, 2016

            I’m not going to bother responding to all that mindless gibberish which proves you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

            I’m just going to leave you with this little gem about how since Obamacare was enacted, not only do 20 million more Americans have health insurance, but overall healthcare spending in America IS WAY DOWN!!

            In fact, it’s projected to be down 2.6 trillion dollars. See this and take your idiot comments about socialism and cram them you know where!!

            WASHINGTON — Twenty million or so more people have health insurance now than they did before Obamacare, and yet the American health care system is on track to spend $2.6
            trillion less from 2014 to 2019 than before the Affordable Care Act became law.

            That’s right — $2.6 trillion, which is equivalent to about 15 percent of U.S. gross domestic product.

            Put that in your pipe and smoke it!!!!!!! Being the totally worthless human being you are!!!

          18. paulyz June 23, 2016

            Actually, the number of people “receiving” healthcare under Obamacare has fallen. Though many have signed up, many can not afford the ever increasing premiums & high deductibles of it. It will get MUCH worse in 2017, (conventiently AFTER the election), when premiums will really soar. Another failed Big Government program from the Democrat-Socialist Party.

    3. PrecipitousDrop June 19, 2016

      Duly noted, Box.
      Let’s ask George W. Bush about eliminating Executive Privilege, OK?
      And if he won’t talk, we’ll Torture him.
      Yeah. That sounds fair.

    4. Independent1 June 20, 2016

      No president in your time, or in previous history, has governed with a political party that has pledge in its entirely (with every member of the party), to do everything in their power to sabotage the economy in an effort to prevent the sitting president from ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING!! And has followed through with such 24/7 obstructionism as has the GOP over the past 7 years. With obstructionism that has actually bordered on treason, because of efforts that have clearly been detrimental to the well being of our nation.

      Efforts that have deliberately been made to suppress the economy; to dampen job creation, and which have actually on numerous occasions to actually go against the will of more than 75% of the American public – as is the case right now when more than 80% of Americans polled express strong support for enhanced gun controls, yet a treasonous political party refuses to even vote on the issue in the House of Representatives.

      And if you don’t believe the sabotage the economy bit, here’s the proof:

      Eric Cantor & GOP Leaders Plot to Sabotage US Economy in Secret Meeting

      FACT 1. In Robert Draper’s book, “Do Not Ask What Good We Do: Inside the U.S. House of Representatives” Draper wrote that on inauguration night, 2009, during a four hour, “invitation only” meeting with GOP Hate-Propaganda Minister, Frank Luntz, the below listed Senior GOP Law Writers literally plotted to sabotage, undermine and destroy America’s Economy.

      FACT 2: Draper wrote the guest list included:

      The Guest List:

      Frank Luntz – GOP Minister of Propaganda

      Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI)
      Rep. Eric Cantor (R-VA)
      Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA),
      Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX),
      Rep. Jeb Hensarling (R-TX),
      Rep. Pete Hoekstra (R-MI)
      Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA),
      Sen. Jim DeMint (SC-R),
      Sen. Jon Kyl (AZ-R),
      Sen. Tom Coburn (OK-R),
      Sen. John Ensign (NV-R) and
      Sen. Bob Corker (TN-R).
      Non-lawmakers present Newt Gingrich – Failed GOP candidate for President

      FACT 3: Newt Gingrich confirms meeting took place in an interview with Al Sharpton’s Politics Nation on June 12, 2012

      SHARPTON: In fact, let`s go to a book that Mr. Draper wrote about the night of the inauguration. There was a meeting at a hotel near the inaugural ball, about a mile away … He writes about that night the plan was to show united and unyielding opposition to the president`s economic policies … And Draper writes that you told the group — you, Newt Gingrich, “You will remember this day…you will remember this day the seeds of 2012 were sown.”

      If there was a commitment from day one, before he ever took a seat behind the desk of the Oval Office, that everyone was going to obstruct him, then what he`s done has been almost unbelievable, against those kind of odds, Speaker Gingrich.

      NEWT: The first is, it was an important meeting and I was glad and honored to be part of it… I said to Callista when we left the hall — because we were at the
      Capitol for the inaugural. As we left, I said, you know, if he sticks to the kind of moderation and bipartisanship he`s been describing, he will split the Republican Party. He`ll govern like Eisenhower and he`ll get reelected. Now this is — this is the inaugural day.

      SHARPTON: I`m glad you admit you had it.

    5. Independent1 June 20, 2016

      And Obama never from the beginning desired to pass his agenda no matter who blah blah blah!! YOU ARE A LYING SACK OF CRAP!!

      Obama tried for well over two to three years to work with the GOP but when everything he proposed, even agendas that had been pushed previously by the GOP were thrown back in his face with a flat NO!! He eventually HAD TO RESORT to using his presidential powers TO GET ANYTHING ACCOMPLISHED!! ISSUES CLEARLY SUPPORTED BY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!


      Your absolute stupidity is absolutely astounding!!!

    6. jsjca June 20, 2016

      Executive Orders. The Right used to claim that Obama signed more EOs than any other president, which is not even close to being true. When the Right could no longer continue with that farce, it now claims that Obama’s EOs are of a different nature than other presidents’ EOs which is also incorrect. Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation and the suspension of habeas corpus which are probably two of the broadest use of power through EOs by any president. I hasten to add I totally support that Lincoln signed the Emancipation Proclamation. Other presidents also used EOs like Obama, including, but not limited to, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, FDR, Ike, JFK, and Reagan, and Bush II.

  3. plc97477 June 19, 2016

    The only part of the article that needs changing is the part about not blaming the bush administration for 9-11. The did not have to imagine the attack, the fbi and the cia told them the attack was planned. If the bushies had read and understood the daily briefings it would never have happened.

    1. johninPCFL June 19, 2016

      It’s hard to imagine how they’d have determined that four separate aircraft leaving from different cities for different destinations would have all been targets for hijackings. Vigilance may have stopped one or two, which is probably what the hijackers thought success would look like.
      Also, could anything have been done once the planes were airborne? In those days, the playbook said do whatever the hijackers want so as to land the plane safely and get the passengers off. There had not been an intentional crash since hijackings began in the 1960s.

      1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

        strange as it sounds if those plane were shot out of the sky there might been less dead . for all the plane had one ending no matter what

    2. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

      then its what thy did after 9/11 thy are at fault for . B/S intelligence with WMD

    3. Dominick Vila June 19, 2016

      It was more than just not reading or understanding the information conveyed during the daily national security briefings. W did not even bother to attend those briefings, delegate responsibility, and was too busy chopping wood in Crawford or reading primers to bother with debriefings.
      Reminding Jeb of who was President when 9/11 occurred was probably the only positive contribution made by Donald Trump since he announced his candidacy.

      1. paulyz June 19, 2016

        One of the serious problems of political correctness, our Government knew about them, allowed them to have flight training. Lots of red flags like overstay in visas, making some of them Illegal. This is similar to what likely will happen with unvetted refugees.

        1. jsjca June 20, 2016

          ME refugees are not admitted unless they have been vetted.

          1. paulyz June 20, 2016

            National Security advisers stated that it is impossible to properly vette them as they haven’t any records of these people.

          2. paulyz June 23, 2016

            Like the 3 boys that raped & urinated on a little girl?

          3. PrecipitousDrop June 24, 2016

            Which ones?
            Boys and men rape girls and women all over the world, every day. It happens every day in the US, too. No matter where they came from.

          4. paulyz June 24, 2016

            Another excuse by a Liberal to ignore increased crime by refugees & Illegals. If they weren’t here, they wouldn’t commit these “extra” crimes. Guess that’s OK with you though.

          5. PrecipitousDrop June 25, 2016

            Crime is crime. A White war veteran blew up the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. Another White citizen, the Unabomber blew up random people because he disagreed with them. A couple of bored and boring White high school kids shot up their school in Columbine. The FIRST movie shooter, a White grad student, shot the hell out of a cineplex in Aurora. The SECOND one, a White guy in Louisiana, shot up the movieplex in Lafayette. I haven’t even warmed up to Sandy Hook Elementary School, numerous assassinations and bombings of Planned Parenthood and other women’s health clinics, or out most recent citizen from Queens, New York who snuffed 49 lives.

            Get over your xenophobia, dimbulb. We don’t need any off-shore help killing each other. We do a great job of that all by ourselves.

          6. Dissolute June 28, 2016

            I see your logic. As we have existing citizens who commit heinous acts, it then follows we should import hundreds of thousands of the middle east’s unwashed, uneducated, culturally archaic masses and suffer whatever the misogynistic, homophobic arrogant thugs bring with them,

            Cultural catastrophe and the really humorous aspect of this debate is that due to liberals’ hedonistic, amoral, secularism the LIBERALS become the primary targets of the despicable horde. Quarter wit.

          7. paulyz June 29, 2016

            More of your obvious anti-White biases. Your “solution” for our Country’s problems are to I crease them by importing even more misery, more non-assimilation.

          8. PrecipitousDrop June 29, 2016

            Exactly what part of, “… we don’t need any off-shore help…” are you and Dissolute having trouble with, Pauly?

          9. paulyz July 1, 2016

            Your name on the Memo certainly makes sense, Precipitous, exactly what a knee-jerk Liberal is. The Drop part is either you being dropped on your head at birth instead of aborted, or the amount of intelligence you have.

          10. PrecipitousDrop July 2, 2016

            Not relevant, pauly.
            Try to do better.

          11. paulyz July 2, 2016

            Which one is you?

          12. jsjca June 24, 2016

            You don’t have to look at refugees for this. There are plenty of American men who do that. If you really cared about the little girl, you would recognize that the rapists’ background is irrelevant. Men who do such vile, evil acts are universal.

          13. paulyz June 24, 2016

            The point is: we are increasing these dispicable acts by allowing Millions of Illegals into our Country, & now Hillary wants over 500% more than even Obama.

          14. Dissolute June 28, 2016

            Vetted by a federal government which mismanaged the USPS to 4 billion in the red? The same federal government which bankrupted Social Security? The federal government which paid $600.00 for a hammer? Is it the same government which threw 500 million at a bankrupt solar energy company?

            Or perhaps it’s the federal government which spent 6.5 trillion dollars on the “war on poverty” and created considerably more poverty over 50 years?

            Anyone assuming our federal government can vett refugees any better than they perform their other functions is gullible and needs to stay home on election day. 20 trillion in debt. They have done NOTHING right.

          15. PrecipitousDrop June 29, 2016

            Your patriotism is an inspiration, Dissolute.
            Thank you.

          16. jsjca June 29, 2016

            Yes, the same federal government that demands food inspections and mandates clean water to drink (Flint, MI was Governor Synder’s screw up). The same fed gov that is instrumental in many medical advances and combats deseases to protect your children. The same fed govern that builds and maintains our roads and transportation networks. (Until the Tea Party extremists took over in Congress and refuses to maintain our infrastructure). The same fed gov. that is instrumental in making advancements in energy and electronics, and communications. The same fed gov which created thousands of daily products we use that are spin offs from fed. programs such as microwave ovens, GPS, and MRI. The same fed. gov. that maintains national parks for ecology and the beauty of this country. The same fed. gov. that is there and effective for national disastrous, except for the notable exception of Hurricane Katrina under Bush II. The same fed gov that states run to for help, especially the red, conservative state. The same fed gov’s war on poverty which lifted huge segments of society into the middle class and then the Republicans drastically cut it which created more poverty. The REAGAN fed. gov. who opposed Social Security and passed laws to misuse Social Security that enabled REAGAN to embezzle funds from Social Security to pay for wars and tax cuts for big businesses. Yes, that federal government.

          17. Dissolute June 29, 2016

            Wow! It is very clear you possess little, if any actual historical knowledge. I will stipulate that Reagan massively helped plunder the Social Security trust fund and I’d say: so what? You help confirm my point, politicians, all of them are inept political chameleons who lie whenever their mouths are moving.

            I did NOT TAKE SIDES. The federal government has done little to lift anyone out of poverty. A climb into the middle class has more to do with personal integrity, industrious character and dedication to improving one’s life.

            As for inventions which improve our daily lives, Percy Spencer is generally credited with inventing the modern microwave oven after World War II from radar technology developed during the war. Named the “Radarange”, it was first sold in 1946. Raytheon later licensed its patents for a home-use microwave oven that was first introduced by Tappan in 1955.

            The 2003 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine was awarded to Paul C Lauterbur and Peter Mansfield for their discoveries concerning magnetic resonance imaging.

            PRIVATE enterprise, occasionally utilizing government grants, has been the true engine of development.

            Beyond those facts is the intractable truth that ALL federal agencies are poorly maintained and administered.

            By the late 1960s our water and air were improving, only THEN did the Feds go on board. Private organizations harangued our government over a period of years to get involved. Intractable, obdurate and uncooperative. The phrase which has been the bane of private citizens for generations is: “Hi, I’m from the government and I’m here to help”

            Again, if you are so firmly gullible as to believe our federal government is efficient, effective and is on our side, you probably should stay home on November 8th and play canasta.

        2. Dominick Vila June 20, 2016

          None of the refugees escaping terrorism have committed terrorist acts.
          9/11 had absolutely nothing to do with political correctness. The Fatwah issued by Osama bin Laden was focused on the creation of Israel and our unconditional support to that country; and the presence of U.S. military forces near the Holy cities of Mecca and Medina. An underlying reason was the influence of the Western culture in Islamic countries.
          One of the terrorists did attend Embry Riddle University to learn how to fly. Thousands of foreign students, including many from Islamic countries, do the same, and are likely to continue to do the same, regardless of who is in the White House.
          Our intelligence agencies knew an attack was coming. Unfortunately, they did not know how the attack was going to be carried out, where, or when. Had they known, or suspected, that it was going to involve hijacking planes, I am sure they would have done something about it.

          1. paulyz June 20, 2016

            But even so, BO and Hillary and Bernie, want to let tens of thousands of “unvetted” refugees into our Country. Many National Security advisers disagree with this and warn that children of immigrants from Middle-East nations go on to become radicals, and some “home-grown” terrorists.

          2. Dissolute June 28, 2016

            Not so much. TomClancy, the author, wrote a novel back in1998 which featured a disaffected long experienced Egyptian airline pilot who, having been radicalized, flew his 747 heavy into our Capitol Dome during a Presidential State of the Union address.

            The results were dramatic and catastrophic. The point is that if Tom Clancy, who has deep connections to our security services, was thinking of airliners as weapons in 1998, what’s the liklihood that the CIA wasn’t?

          3. PrecipitousDrop June 29, 2016

            Our history and current world events are based in reality, Dissolute, not lurid fictional novels. Reality and fiction are opposites, remember?

          4. Dissolute June 29, 2016

            Not to appear difficult but Clancy and the CIA had a long storied, if strained, relationship. When Clancy wrote and published “The Hunt For Red October” the CIA aggressively approached Clancy demanding to know his source of technical inside information.

            Afterwards, the CIA “fed” information to Clancy in an apparent amicable relationship. Of one fact you may be certain, Clancy and the CIA were associated and if Clancy was to publish the book featuring the 747 slamming into the Capitol dome, the CIA was at the very least, peripherally aware of that particular concept. Or should have been. http://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-conservative/2013/10/ex-cia-agent-says-obama-had-andrew-breitbart-and-tom-clancy-assassinated-2731014.html

          5. Dissolute June 29, 2016

            By the way, before you write of “lurid” novels, please consider Issac Asimov who wrote the Foundation series who invented the word “robot” and presciently project what is now science fact.

            Jules Verne had Captain Nemo traveling 20,000 leagues under the sea in a SUBMARINE which much later became science fact.

            Arthur C. Clarke wrote science “fiction” novels which foretold a number of now commonly accepted scientific facts.

            Clancy was prescient and as it turns out, our security folks should have paid more attention. I, for one, was not stunned on 9/11. I’d already read a similar plot line. My amazement was more related to the fact our inept, officious, woefully inept federal government had not caught on.

          6. PrecipitousDrop June 29, 2016

            People who blur the line between fiction and reality are delusional, dissolute. But you know that.
            Never mind.

          7. Dissolute June 29, 2016

            “Blur” the lines? Authors in various fields of interest have frequently been the originators of a broad spectrum of ideas.

            My observation is simply, perhaps our security angencies haven’t the grey matter to take a clue from some of the brightest, most fertile minds available but it is unambiguously clear that our enemies certainly appear to have, based upon what occurred on 9/11.

  4. idamag June 19, 2016

    Remember hitler said he was going to make Germany great again.

    1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

      and we seen how that turned out . with DONNY DUMP at the helm history repeat’s it self im sure the last pic the DUMPSTER with his finger pushing the button and of course he would have the press there taking pics to get the attention that wacko seeks as he ends the world

  5. AgLander June 19, 2016

    Trump hasn’t had anyone killed……The Clintons have left a trail of bodies over the last 4 decades that is as impressive as it is criminal.

    1. johninPCFL June 19, 2016

      Yeah, but nothing to match the 4000+ Americans killed by Bush/Cheney.

      1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

        and that’s with out 9/11 but you’re still being kind to the DIRTY BUSH and CHEEZY CHANEY look at the wounded one top of the dead and the innocent ones in Iraq killed or hurt

      2. Independent1 June 19, 2016

        What about the 3,000 who died on 9/11 because Bush and Cheney refused to let the CIA try and stop the attack.

        1. paulyz June 20, 2016

          You must mean the political correctness from Libs that prevented “profiling” these Muslims, letting them have flight lessons and some overstay their visas.

    2. PrecipitousDrop June 19, 2016

      AgLander! You ol’ SOB! Top o’ the Morning!
      Where are the Homicide reports? Forensics? District of Attorney files? Motive? Method?
      Aw hell, where are the headstones? (Excluding Vince Foster. Ask his family about his tragic end, OK? They know.)
      Put up or Shaddup, OK, big fella?

    3. greenlantern1 June 19, 2016

      Hasn’t killed anyone?
      Ever hear of Ray Kot, Sunnil Rattu and Martin Caballero?
      They were murdered at Trump Taj Mahal!
      Adequate police protection?
      Ask Sheriff Joe Arpaio!

    4. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

      Trump hasn’t had anyone killed//// YET give the clown car driver time im sure he will .

    5. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

      and as you believe the trustworthy GOP gang of idiots right ? take your meds (ALL OR THEM AT ONCE PLEASE )

    6. bobnstuff June 19, 2016

      We don’t know about the people Trump had killed. He has ties to the mob so Trump having someone killed isn’t to far a stretch, We know people have died because of Trumps actions.

      1. paulyz June 19, 2016

        Show us your “facts”! Typical Leftist sound bites that have no basis.

    7. Independent1 June 19, 2016

      You lying sack of BS!! PROVE IT!!!

    8. Independent1 June 19, 2016

      And no politicians are more responsible for killing people than Republicans – thousands die every day because of GOP legislative actions that deprive them of the healthcare, food and welfare they need to stay alive, just so they can feed more money into their and their rich donors pockets.

      1. paulyz June 20, 2016

        You mean the poverty, unemployment and misery under Obama for almost 8 years?! ! And don’t forget the criminal Illegals BO released to kill, rape and harm thousands of Americans.. and don’t forget the Clinton ‘s multi-Millions in funds from many special interests! Dummy!

        1. Independent1 June 20, 2016

          Any poverty, unemployment or misery since Obama has been in office has been caused BY REPUBLICANS!!

          Republicans refusing to even vote on two jobs bills submitted by Obama.

          Republicans refusing to extend unemployment benefits or do anything to help create jobs; Mitch McConnell using the fake filibuster more than 400 times to stop any bills the Dems would enact to help the economy.

          Republicans in red states passing right-to-pay-you-less laws that have allowed corporations to pay their employees poverty- level wages that nobody can live on. And to structure their workers jobs in a way that they can get out of providing them benefits (part time work).

          Republicans who have cut budgets in their states to the bone so they can funnel money to the wealthy by reducing taxes, which has thrown large portions of their state populations onto unemployment and welfare. Red states BY FAR lead the nation in the percentages of their state’s residents living in poverty and misery!!

          All ten of the most miserable states to live in with the worst quality of life ARE GOP-RUN STATES!!

          1. paulyz June 20, 2016

            Extend unemployment benefits? How long, forever? Many have been on extended unemployment for years! Everyone knows that if the long-term unemployed were counted, the rate would be MUCH higher. States are not required to expand Medicaid for Obamacare you Dummy, in fact, it was supposed to be paid for by all on Obamacare, kater, when it was failing, Leftists wanted to throw everyone on Medicaid to make it basically a pure government program. Besides, with the National Debt heading to $21 TRILLION, I would hope responsible leaders, (on the Right), would try to slow it down before our Country is crippled beyond hope. Socialists like you don’t care about this serious problem, because you believe you can suck more money from others, but there will never be enough. Democrat-Socialists only way to stay in power is to Tax & Spend for votes, while premiums are rapidly increasing on the failing Obamacare. Now besides Illegals murdering & raping Americans, there are 3 young Syrian refugees that raped a little girl at knife point in Idaho. Also, Loretta Lynch squelched the REAL News about Omar Maternal claiming alegiance to ISIS, until outrage from the Republican Party & Citizens demanded that they release the entire transcripts. Keeping news from the public is a common tactic of Socialists.

    9. jsjca June 20, 2016

      Names, dates, and documented proof please. Don’t have any? I didn’t think so.

  6. HowardBrazee June 19, 2016

    Not Mussolini?

    1. johninPCFL June 19, 2016

      Probably more apt. Mussolini was a businessman, and gravitated into the political arena after the WWI government didn’t get “what they deserved” in Versailles.
      Mussolini needed to “make Italy great again”!

      1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

        doing that as he hung dead with people hitting and spitting on the POS even that was too good for him

  7. FT66 June 19, 2016

    History always repeats itself. No surprises here.

  8. greenlantern1 June 19, 2016

    Ike was of German heritage.
    Did that stop him from smashing Hitler’s ATLANTIC WALL?
    Ever read about Mexico’s AZTEC EAGLES?
    They were part of the UNITED STATES ARMY AIR FORCE!
    They helped a great American general, General Douglas MacArthur, return@!
    Ever read about the Tuskagee airmen?

    1. Eleanore Whitaker June 19, 2016

      My neighbor was one of the Tuskagee Airmen. He doesn’t go around carrying AR-15s. He doesn’t bellow, boss anyone and is intelligent enough to be a NJ professor.

      What’s your point?

      1. greenlantern1 June 19, 2016

        I doubt that he is a Trump supporter!
        I am a Caucasian.
        I am proud to consider him a fellow American!!

        1. pmbalele June 19, 2016

          Trump is not a bad guy – he is just ignorant about his environment. And we see a lot of people raised with too much money or power around them. For instance Romney bullied a lot highway drivers by faking hwy trooper wearing state uniform. Romney one time jumped on a classmate suspected of being gay. Romney also said he did not care about 47% poor ones. That is how he lost 2012 election.So Trump was not ready for the WH job. This time around was his lesson. He should wait another 8 years to run.

          1. PrecipitousDrop June 19, 2016

            Donald Trump is many things, pm, but “ignorant” isn’t one of them. He knows exactly how to attract and manage his fan base.
            I purely reject and detest the man.
            And I hope he doesn’t change a thing about the chaotic mess of his failed candidacy.

          2. greenlantern1 June 19, 2016

            He chose Carl Paladino to run his western New York campaign!
            Boy Scout?

          3. Independent1 June 19, 2016

            Trump is not a bad guy??? So you condone the fact he’s actually conned people into investing in sham projects only to suddenly declare bankruptcy so he could walk away with millions in ill gotten profits while leaving hundreds maybe thousands of investors and workers holding the bag?? Sorry, Trump is a totally despicable, worthless human being – and a very, very bad person.

          4. pmbalele June 20, 2016

            I meant Trump is not a bad guy as human being. He is just ignorant and therefore a bad guy as a politician. He was raised on golden spoon; therefore, does not know how others toil to live. If you have dealt with people raised as rich or sons or daughters of powerful politicians, you will agree with me. I told out about a she- lawyer whose father was governor. This she-lawyer argued in court that Blacks, including me, could not qualify for technical positions even if they ranked highest on state exams. She would not say that about White exam takers. She was raised to despise Blacks and poor people. I was lucky the state judge stopped her. The same with Trump. Trump does not care even if GOPers and TPs complain about what he says. He was not prepared this time around for the WH job.

          5. Independent1 June 20, 2016

            I’m sorry but conning people into making bad investments just so you can run off with millions of dollars in my mind is no better than an outright thief such that Trump should actually be in jail. That to me makes him a very bad person – personally. Trump has destroyed or severely affected the lives of thousands of people in a very negative way (and I’m not even getting into the women’s issues with him). How does that not make Trump a ‘bad guy’??

          6. paulyz June 20, 2016

            How about the Government making bad Investments like many failed policies & programs, tremendous National Debt., continued poverty & unemployment? Obama has destroyed or severely affected MILLIONS of people in very negative ways, even death & rape

          7. jsjca June 20, 2016

            I don’t think we can excuse Trump because he grew up rich. So did FDR and JFK but somehow they both managed to know and understand what the people needed…except for civil rights. FDR did nothing and JFK started doing things once his hand was forced.

        2. PrecipitousDrop June 19, 2016

          What are you saying, Green?
          “I am proud to consider HIM a fellow American!!”
          Him? Trump, or the Tuskegee airman?

          1. greenlantern1 June 19, 2016

            Let js be perfectly clear!!
            I am proud of the Tuskagee airman!
            Not the legacy of a VP that made a plea bargain!

          2. PrecipitousDrop June 19, 2016

            I humbly beg your pardon, Sir.

          3. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 20, 2016

            hopefuly Tuskegee airman and not a DONNY DUMP supporter

          4. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            Airman it is!

          5. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 20, 2016

            i 2nd that

          6. Eleanore Whitaker June 20, 2016

            And beause your ass has white skin Green lantern that entitles you to what? As for Trump. He can’t set foot here in NJ. He knows why. He owes thousands of former casino employees their paychecks. And, to show you how effed up Trump is, he was the one who flew his Middle Eastern Mullah high rollers into NJ at the Taj when they were laundering money to terrorists.

            Typical Trump belligerence when he got 3 cease and desist orders, he chose to ignore them. So the casinos had to be shut down. Trump lied and told those workers and business suppliers he was closing the casinos because they were no longer profitable and had out of state competition. NOT because as was the truth, he couldn’t continue to keep them open because of that FinCEN fine of $22 million.

          7. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            Psst! Green came out in favor of the airman.
            But thanks for the Trump facts.

          8. Eleanore Whitaker June 20, 2016

            I thought he was writing in sardonic satire. Oops. Mea culpa. As for Trump? You’d have love the battles he and the Queen of Mean, Leona Helmsley had back in Trump’s early real estate days.

            Trump’s own father knew his son even then was out of his control. Trump by all observations doesn’t believe laws are made for him. So, yes. He will fly in the face of common decency.

            He was a regular visitor to Hugh Hefner’s McAfee NJ Playboy mansion where Trump spent his time pulling bunny tails off the bunnies.

  9. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 19, 2016

    as for DONNY DUMP being compared to Hitler when he was asked that question he said it didn’t bother him . for he him self see’s Hitler in his mirror wanting to be the king of the world . and as Hitler also hates anyone that dosent see thing his way . me I thing if one did the research thy would find family members in DONNY DUMPS life history that road with Hitler

    1. PrecipitousDrop June 19, 2016

      His dad, Ivory. His dad was a fervent White nationalist. He marched in support of “the Cause.”

      1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 20, 2016

        his dad im sure if a little more research was done im sure one could find others in his family that murdered the Jews and others . and his dad was a hatter and it trickled or should I say flowed down to DONNY DUMP if this was to be found (and I believe its there ) it should be brought to light

        1. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

          Hasn’t been needed, Ivory. Trump’s doing a spectacularly BAD job, all by himself.
          He’s such a loser.

          1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 20, 2016

            ive stated that all this DONNY DUMP is doing now is just laying the ground work for his new up and coming reality show the BIGGEST LOSER STANDING its a pic of him with a patch of his 1st wife’s hair hanging in his hand his first guess will be S. Palin and Rush Dumbo :)~

  10. kalpal June 19, 2016

    Anyone who finds even a smidgen of benevolence in Kaiser Drumpf Der Dummkopf is an ignorant fool. The only statement he has not reversed himself on in the wall on the Mexican border because he is well aware that it will never be built. His assertion that he will self fund his campaign was hogwash all the way. His insistence that his misogyny will not cause women to reject his candidacy is sheer drivel. I could keep on but why waste any more time. Idiots of America arise and vote for Kaiser Drumpf. Just make sure to hide your money or he will steal it.

    1. Independent1 June 19, 2016

      Actually, he’s not owning up to actually having even insisted a wall be built:

      Trump: Everything I Said – “Just a Suggestion”

      Yeah. It was a suggestion. Look, anything I say right now, I’m not the
      president,” Trump said. “Everything is a suggestion, no matter what you
      say, it’s a suggestion.”

      Let that sink in, a bit.

      Ban on Muslims? Just a suggestion.

      Build a wall? Just a suggestion.

      Make America great again? Just a suggestion.

      For months, while the faithful Branch Trumpidians have drooled and
      given glassy-eyed allegiance to every word, he was just making


      1. paulyz June 22, 2016

        Here’s a suggestion : Leave OUR Capitalist Republic that you hate so much, try Canada, Mexico, or maybe Syria! Dummy!

        1. Independent1 June 23, 2016

          It’s got nothing to do with America supposedly being a ‘Capitalist Republic’; It’s all about the band of outright thieves who’ve taken over the GOP (no different than the Italian Mafia) and who spend all their time screwing every American except themselves and their money-hungry donors which include a bunch of fat-cat crooks like the Koch Bros, Sheldon Adelson, the Walton Family, etc. etc. and also some that have gotten into running some of America’s major corporations as CEOs. You’ll not their lowlife, that those crooked GOP politicians wouldn’t even support a jobs bill that would have put millions of Americans to work because most of the work would have been done by smaller local companies which don’t always shovel money into the pockets of those Mafia-like bandits of the GOP!!!

          If anyone needs to leave America, it’s people like you who supports these crooks who really should be in jail for committing treason by deliberately working the last 7 years to sabotage our country’s economy!!!

          1. paulyz June 23, 2016

            Being completely brainwashed as you, from constantly reading Leftist sites, renders you excessively biased to make honest judgements, plus you are too consumed by hatred.

          2. paulyz June 24, 2016

            Good evening Dummy, again you are proven wrong on S.S., & Medicare. The Trustees of these programs just announced that they will both be paying out more than they take in, 2 years sooner than before. After that, people will get only 75% of what people get now. And the time is coming in just 2034 for S.S. & 2028 for Medicare. Also, the government will be taking out $28 more per month from S.S. for Part B Medicare in 2017, and up $44 more from 2015. Just like Obamacare, premiums rising fast, benefits declining. “Socialism”. Quite compassionate for those paying in, but getting little out.

          3. Independent1 June 24, 2016

            And the solution to all that is just to kick all the Republicans out of Congress and let the Dems take over so they can make one small change that will erase everything you just noted about SS and Medicare with some simple changes.

            For SS, all that’s needed to make SS support all future benefits is to change the idiotic low cut off amount on the deduction of SS taxes from I believe it’s 118,000 now and set it a 200,000 and SS will be solvent for decades to come – at least 8-10 decades.

            And the current projections being made on Medicare aren’t fully taking into account the reductions in healthcare costs that Obamacare is starting to make a reality. So those projections aren’t worth the paper they’re recorded on.

            And all of these issues have been created by the GOP refusing to pass legislation that would create millions more jobs (either of the 2 jobs bills Obama passed congress 4-5 years ago which the GOP has been sitting on/filibustering against.) And the fact that Congress has also refused to pass a minimum wage act that would increase incomes, increase not only income tax revenues but also SS revenues that would help strengthen Social Security.

            As is he case the majority of the time, IT’S THE GOP THAT’S TO BLAME FOR EVERYTHING THAT APPEARS TO BE GOING WRONG!!!

          4. paulyz June 25, 2016

            Your refusal to accept reality, & others like you, create hardships on Millions of Americans. You don’t receive the truth about anything on leftist sites like the dailykos, just excuses and blame from Obama, the Democrat-Socialist Party, & the Liberal Media.

            Your “easy” fix for S.S. by forcing others that have more wealth pay more for it than what they will get back, is just more Socialism, more Tax & Spend, and more Debt.

          5. Independent1 June 25, 2016

            Asking millionaires and billionaires who now payoff their FICA deduction for the year in their very first paycheck of the year to pay their FICA tax maybe one more payday IS CREATING A HARDSHIIP FOR THEM??? What a farce for a human being you are!! You’re nothing but a despicable piece of crap!!

            Go pound sand!! You’re so worthless I have to now go wash up from just blogging with you i fell so dirty in just associating with you!! I can’t believe that there are people as inhuman on this earth as you are!!


          6. paulyz June 26, 2016

            What an ignorant fool, your knee-jerk hate reactions sink you again. The hardships from Liberals like you fall mostly on the middle-class. My comment, understood by intelligent people, (Not You), was about Libreal “solutions” always call for taxing more & deficit spending. Your so-called solution was to Tax people so high, completely beyond what benefit they would receive, to try & save SS. Your dumb solution would make those Citizens pay more in income into SS than they would ever get out, instead of actually solving the problem.

            Once again you proved the fool, DUMMY!

          7. Independent1 June 26, 2016

            If there’s any ignorant fool here, IT’S YOU!!

            Fact is – no Liberal has suggested raising taxes on the middle class. Obama hasn’t raised taxes a dime on the middleclass and he’s cut taxes over 10 times on small business.

            AND the fact is, that it’s Republicans who govern with deficit spending NOT LIBERALS!! Since Nixon’s 2nd term, every Republican in office has governed with massive deficit spending, while EVERY DEMOCRAT HAS REDUCED DEFICIT SPENDING!!

            Clinton actually reduced Bush 1’s deficit spending to below zero and actually had surpluses. And Obama would have done the same thing, if Bush 2 hadn’t signed so much unfunded legislation into law which is still running up deficits.

            So once again YOU’RE A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!!

            And here’s just a comparison to show you the difference between a billionaire liberal who took a state that a Republican had destroyed – Minnesota and turned it into a job creation powerhouse. While a Republican took Minnesota’s neighbor Wisconsin and is virtually destroying its educational system, jobs and economy!!!!

            A Republican named Pawlenty governed the state of
            Minnesota for 8 years from 2003 through 2010; at the end of those 8 years, Minnesota was 6 Billion in debt and had only created 6,200 jobs in those 8 years under Pawlenty.

            In 2010 a Democratic billionaire named Mark Dayton was elected and took over. And despite the fact that he raised taxes on the upper 2% of Minnesotans; increased the min wage by over $1.50 to $9.75 and edicted that women doing the same job as men had to be paid the same as men, after his 1st 4 years, Minnesota had really changed:

            – The 6 billion in debt had been paid off and the state was projecting a 1.2 billion surplus.

            – Instead of 6,200 new jobs in 8 years under Pawlenty; 172,000 new jobs were created in 4 years.

            – Instead of being 27th in America in job creation; Minnesota is now in the top 5 in job creation.

            – Instead of having an unemployment rate of 7% it is now 5th lowest in the nation at 3.6%

            – Instead of it being rated as anti-business; it is now one of the 10th best-business states in America

            And why is this last bit important – because businesses love states where people have money to spend and Minnesota’s average income is now $8,000 higher than the national

            In contrast to the above, a of 2015, this is what happened under Scott Walker in neighboring Wisconsin the previous 4+ years. Because of the downturn Wisconsin was also
            struggling a bit in 2010 when Walker took over; but under Walker, Wisconsin has gone from not so great to much worse:

            – Walker has virtually destroyed all the unions in Wisconsin and signed into law the right-to-pay-you-less legislation – with Wisconsin’s average incomes falling.

            – Walker has cut funding for education across the board and especially for the university system

            – The above has resulted not only in Wisconsin dropping from 24th in the nation in job creation to 47th in the nation today; but also to projecting a 2.2 Billion surplus over the next 2 years.

            – And as you might expect, Wisconsin has a very unfavorable rating now for new businesses.

          8. Max June 27, 2016

            Most of that is do to Minnesota taking so many refugees and getting a “vast” amount of federal funding as payola so Minnesota has increased government jobs vastly, and the feds have even set up shop in Minnesota, We also have a LOT of Medical industry in Minnesota that has profited greatly from the un-affordable health care act, The medical industry being the number 1 employer in MN and Government State Federal and local all inclusive being number 2, And giving number 1 a run for its money. The perfect world in a liberals eyes, over half the people working for the government that’s feeding off the very few producers left in this country… A sure recipe for disaster, you can only fudge the books and make that look good for so long before it all comes crumbling down..

            PS Minnesota, has a Midwest work ethic and has always done well no-matter what the Liberals in Minneapolis St Paul do to the state, the farm and out regions used to be democratic farm labor regions but more and more they are voting conservative, that’s whats really fueling Minnesota is the out region conservative people that commute daily to the various cities to work, and be harassed by our growing worthless aggressive and violent refugee population…

          9. Independent1 June 27, 2016

            And the NM’s bona fide total idiot posts his normal total malarkey. Go stuff it!!

          10. paulyz June 27, 2016

            EVERYBODY that shows you facts, or differs from your beliefs, results in angry name-calling by you. Very intolerant & hateful of you. Dummy!

          11. PrecipitousDrop June 27, 2016

            My oh my!
            You’re just a regular paragon of respectful restraint yourself, Pauly.

          12. paulyz June 27, 2016

            Sometimes you just have to use his tactics, only way he may understand. By the way, who asked you?

          13. PrecipitousDrop June 28, 2016

            Is this your personal internet today, Pauly?

          14. Independent1 June 28, 2016

            Wrong!! You never post facts; you post contrived propaganda!! Essentially lies!! Just like what Faux News does the vast majority of the time:

            ‘Pants On Fire’: Analysis Shows 60% Of Fox News ‘Facts’ Are Really Lies


            You post ‘facts’ from a reputable news source and I’ll believe it. Assuming you accurately interpret those facts and don’t distort reality by mis-interpreting them like you, David, AgLander and others consistently do.

          15. paulyz June 28, 2016

            You can pick & choose all the mis-information links you want. According to a PEW study, & I have shown this before, 85% of MSNBC is dedicated to “opinion”, only 15% news! Fox 55% to 45%, & CNN 46% to 54%. Most of the Media is largely biased towards Liberal opinion & propaganda.

          16. Independent1 June 28, 2016

            I never said that there were any outlets that were 100% facts. But you even lie about what you claim are facts; and then even when you get what’s supposed to be facts, you have to use common sense and/or at least check them out.

            You flat out lied about Obama increasing our debt from 9T to 20T. First of all, you never got those numbers from any even remotely factual website. Fact is, our debt was 10.6T when Obama took office – not 9T. And our debt right now is 19.3T not 20T.

            And you conveniently neglected to point out several things regarding that 10.6T of debt that Bush walked out of the Oval Office having us owe: 1) he had passed on to Obama a budget with not only 1.4T more of deficit spending according to what was in the budget – but he also passed along Billions in deficit spending he was running outside the budget – two unfunded wars, two unfunded tax cuts, an unfunded drug benefit, and a number of unfunded mandates to the states. Billions upon billions of deficits he wasn’t even letting be recorded in his budgets.

            Add to all that, the worst economy since the Great Depression with almost 900,000 jobs being lost a month- and all that makes it quite clear that the picture you keep trying to paint IS A BLATANT LIE!!!!!!!

          17. paulyz June 29, 2016

            Well, at least I got you to ADMIT Obama just about DOUBLED “our” debt in less than 8 years. LMAO! !

          18. Independent1 June 29, 2016

            More total BS!! You know full well I’ve proved to you several times that given that the GOP has controlled the budget for the past 5 years, and Obama’s 1st year was under Bush’s budget, and his second budget went down actually – but because he rolled all the unfunded items Bush had been keeping out of his budget into his it didn’t reflect Obama’s decrease; and also given that he BY FAR has the lowest budget annual increases of any president in office in the past 50 plus years OBAMA IS NOT HIMSELF RESPONSIBLE FOR ADDING $1 TO OUR DEBT!!! NOT $1!!!

            Bush and the irresponsible GOP Congresses during his disastrous 8 years, clearly stacked the deck for deficits for years to come with all the unfunded legislation Congress passed and Bush signed. Just for your edification, the treasury will be amortizing Bush’s deficit spending for his 2 unwarranted wars to our budget for the next 8 plus decades!!!

          19. paulyz June 29, 2016

            At least I got you to ADMIT Obama doubled “our” debt in less than 8 years. LMAO…
            Oh, still blaming Bush I see? Just like Obama, you Socialists always blame someone, or something for your failures, never accepting responsibility. Dummy!

          20. Max June 27, 2016

            The cool thing about arguing with you is even your own people know that you are batshit crazy..
            I can’t lose.. Ha ha .. See ya..

          21. paulyz June 27, 2016

            Obama has INCREASED our National Debt from $9 Trillion to $20 Trillion, & growing. Medicare & S.S. are going bust. Unemployment & poverty grew & remain high. As for raising taxes, yes they did rise for middle income Americans, & increases in forced Obamacare are rapidly rising. 85% of people on Obamacare receive taxpayer funded financial assistance, while there are many that do not seek medical help because of the costs. Property taxes have gone down 2 years in a row under Gov. Walker & one year stayed about the same. Walker removed the huge debt as well from the previous Liberal Democrat Gov., while increasing the rain y day fund ten-fold. Responsible leadership, not Liberal bs.

          22. PrecipitousDrop June 27, 2016

            I could give you proof of the real numbers to “show” you where you’re wrong, but that wouldn’t matter. would it?
            You’re just too goddam blissful to lose even one whit of your ignorance.
            Don’t worry. Be happy.

          23. Independent1 June 27, 2016

            The only morons on the NM who would believe those pack of blatant lies are right-wing nutcases like you. So I’m not going to bother rebutting your pathetic rambling of lies; one after another!!!!

          24. paulyz June 27, 2016

            All facts Dummy, All facts. Besides, you have told me several times that you would not make comments to me. Anger must be a Liberal trait, like Hillary’s angry rants. Like little kids when they don’t get their way, that’s you Dummy.

          25. Independent1 June 27, 2016

            Your facts are all flat-out lies!!!!!!!!!!

          26. paulyz July 1, 2016

            Hey Dummy, more wonderful breaking news, so much in just one day! 6 times deported ILLEGAL ALIEN TRESPASSER murders 3, wounds another in Oregon. AG Loretta Lynch engages in completely unethical behavior meeting with Bill Clinton while his wife is Involved in criminal investigations. Billy also nominated Lynch as U.S. Attorney of N.Y., Citizen with concealed carry stopped a terrorist attack in S.C., saved many lives, nothing in mainstream news? And finally another terrorist attack by ISIS in Bangladesh.

            Your idol Hillary wants to allow all Illegals to remain here, doesn’t want the WALL, or E-verify, & want thousands more unvetted Muslims here, way more than Obama even. Now let’s hear all your excuses Dummy, like it’s the Bush’s fault, or the Republicans, or Whitey, or whatever! You Fool!

          27. paulyz July 2, 2016

            Here is more proof of your leftist labeling, especially calling anyone in opposition to Obama or a Democrat-Socialist a “racist”.

          28. Independent1 July 2, 2016

            And just more OF YOUR FLAT OUT BLATANT LIES!!!

            From the Huffington Post:

            Here Are 10 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist

            1. The Justice Department sued his company — twice — for not renting to black people

            When Trump was serving as the president of his family’s real estate company, the Trump Management Corporation, in 1973, the Justice Department sued the company for alleged racial discrimination against black people looking to rent apartments in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island.


          29. Independent1 July 2, 2016

            You are such a mealy mouth lying piece of crap that it’s utterly disgusting!!!

          30. paulyz June 29, 2016

            As usual, you try to appear knowledgeable by long lists of crap, but ignore the truth about S.S. & Medicare going bust.

          31. Independent1 June 24, 2016

            And just more of your total blatant lies and fabrications of reality “Just like Obamacare, premiums rising fast, benefits declining.
            “Socialism”. Quite compassionate for those paying in, but getting
            little out.”

            What a total load of BS!!!!

  11. Eleanore Whitaker June 19, 2016

    Well let’s see now, I turned the TV to CNN and there was The Donald, in all his glory, face beet red, bellowing and pointing his fingers. Then, he stupidly was asked a question, “Should children be allowed to spy on their parents and report them?”
    Answer: “Yes. If the parents are hiding something, they should.”

    This? This is presidential material? Wasn’t it Hitler who created the Hitler Youth who turned on their own parents?

  12. stsintl June 19, 2016

    All this ego-maniac wants is to get his name and picture in the history books as POTUS. He could care less about governing or implementing any of the things he has been advocating. As a deal maker, he would offer Republican Party the V.P. [Virtual President] spot to Paul Ryan like GWB did to Dick Cheney, who ran the White House while he sat in the Oval Office.

    1. dtgraham June 19, 2016


  13. T.j. Thomas June 19, 2016

    “Before that, who could have conceived of fanatics using jetliners as missiles?”

    Tom Clancy, as a matter of fact.

  14. dtgraham June 19, 2016

    Naah, I’ll have to disagree. Trump isn’t like Hitler at all. Hitler had a moustache, adult-sized hands, and better hair. My guess is though that if Trump wins in November, he’ll be appointing the Soup Nazi as the White House chef.

  15. notafoxfan June 19, 2016

    history does have a tendency to repeat itself doesnt it? this article is , I believe, the same one that was posted by another media outlet…

  16. William Burke Jr June 19, 2016

    Thanks for posting my comment you liberal idiots! Donald Trump is no Hitler. He did say that he would be “neutral” in dealing with Israel and Palestine but so what? Isn’t there still freedom of speech in this country? Sure, if you are a liberal. Hillary did nothing to save our people in Benghazi, She just froze. If that maniac in North Korea should ever
    shoot a nuke at us, I’d much rather have Trump in this White House than Hillary.

    1. Independent1 June 19, 2016

      Total unadulterated Crap!! First of all, anyone who believes anything Trump says is mentally unreliable. “He did say he would be ‘neutral’ in dealing with….” Yeah! Right!! Until 2 mins later when he decides that whomever he suddenly decides he doesn’t like should get thrown out and beat up!! How clueless can you get!!! HOW MANY TIMES DOES TRUMP HAVE TO FLIP FLOP BEFORE YOU REALIZE ANYTHING HE SAYS CAN’T BE BELIEVED!!!


      Will you mindless right-wing morons please get over Benhazi!! And stop posting Faux News created figments of their imagination!!! I’M TIRED OF IT!!!!!!!!!!

      1. William Burke Jr June 20, 2016

        You’re the one who is full of crap. All Hillary is capable of doing is defending her perverted husband. An Elizabeth Warren, what a witch!
        Cackle Cackle Cackle!. And you are fool to think any foreign leader would have any respect for anybody who lies as much as Hillary does?
        She should be in prison for putting state documents on her private Email!!!!!!
        And I’m sick of the Jewish run media and all their liberal views. Hitler,
        indeed. Jerk!!!

        1. jsjca June 20, 2016

          All you did was call people names; present speculations, and make an anti-Semitic comment. Shame on you. You did not present any documented proof of your accusations. This is so typical of the Right. That is why the Right cannot convince and persuade reasonable people of the Right’s positions.

          1. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            The Right’s only “Position” is Opposition.
            They have no actionable goals, only stubborn reaction against the actionable goals of others.
            It doesn’t matter.
            Their supporters don’t care about that. Their supporters are too deeply addicted to the Republican fear/hate highball to notice.

          2. William Burke Jr June 20, 2016

            I voted for Barack Obama twice! I think George Bush was the worst president in United States history. I just don’t trust Hillary Clinton. CNN interviewed a senior military officer who said “they were waiting for the order from Hillary to attack the Islamic Radicals at Benghazi and it never came”. She hasn’t the guts to be president. Donald Trump is a great negotiator and can close deals (with foreign Nations) and actually get things done.

          3. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            Step OFF, Burke.
            You must’ve imagined the CNN interview with a “senior military officer” regarding Benghazi. The Secretary of state does not have any authority to “order” American troops, unless they’re embassy staff members.
            Why the hell wasn’t the Senior Military Officer speaking to other military officers?
            You and Mr. Trump can share a hankie as you fail. Loser.

          4. William Burke Jr June 20, 2016

            The interview was between Jake Tapper and somebody at the Pentagon, a military officer whose name I can’t remember, at about 4:30 PM. You’re a rude person. I never share my hanky with anybody. Trump just fired his campaign manager, Lewandowsky, so things will start getting better. Why don’t you use your real name, PrecipitousDump? Because you’re a coward, that’s why. The American ambassador killed at Benghazi begged for more help weeks before he was killed. Hillary is an incompetent bitch.

          5. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            You are wildly misguided, Burke. So, now the “senior military officer” was — Where! — the PENTAGON???! And this person is waiting for a “call” (that never came, natch) from the Secretary of State? HAW HAW HAW. It’s impossible to be rude ENOUGH to a Liar.
            Trump’s sinking like a stone. Deal with it. His situation will not improve.
            I use a screen name like others use stage names, or pen names. Hold your breath while you wait for an explanation.
            The American ambassador, Chris Stevens, rejected increased military protective staff many times. Only the Coward Donald Trump “suggests” that Amb. Stevens cried for help.
            You, Sir, are an incompetent TROLL.

          6. William Burke Jr June 20, 2016

            Go to hell, you filthy coward.

          7. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            Ciao, Cupcake!

          8. Independent1 June 20, 2016

            And a major problem with all this is that Benghazi was not a State Department Consulate that Hillary had authority over. Stevens was using a CIA detachment as a consulate as a cover for the CIA operation. Responsibility for security at Benghazi was at the Defense Department and they responded as quickly as they could. Unfortunately, the two guys they sent to help were killed.

            Hillary only somewhat admitted responsibility because they were trying not to make it known that most of the folks at Benghazi were CIA agents; but Issa just wouldn’t let up and the head of the CIA, i forget his name, had to testify and basically made it clear that everything Faux News was broadcasting was an outright lie – even to the point that Like Gowdy, Faux News altered White House emails to fit their lying account of the attack. When are people like you going to grow up and stop kowtowing to the propaganda from Faux News and other right-wing pathological lying outlets???

            And don’t forget just a short time before the attack, a General offered Stevens enhanced security twice and he said it wasn’t needed. That when he thought it was needed he’d let the Embassy in Cairo know just what enhanced security he wanted.

          9. Independent1 June 20, 2016

            And see this from an Esquire article:

            Out of the mouth of Trey Gowdy:

            There was nothing the military could have done on the night of Sept. 11, 2012, to stop the attacks in Benghazi, Libya, but the special House committee investigating the terrorist incident will continue to probe the Pentagon’s actions that night, the committee’s chairman said Tuesday. “Whether or not they could have gotten there in time, I don’t think there is any issue with respect to that. They couldn’t,” Rep. TreyGowdy, R-S.C., told Fox News.

            There clearly is nothing more to investigate here. (There hasn’t been anything to investigate here ever, but that’s beside the point.) Besides, it’s time to investigate Ben Rhodes now anyway, so Trey Gowdy can have another chance to make a ridiculous ass of himself in public.


          10. Independent1 June 20, 2016

            I don’t share your opinion on Hillary for a minute- and Trump is simply too dangerous for any sane person to cast a vote for. I’ll go with the assessment of the Editorial Board of the SunSentinel who has endorsed Hillary and refused to endorse any of the GOP candidates at the: Trump, Cruz, Rubio or Kasich on the grounds that not one of them was qualified to sit in the Oval Office. And they passed on Bernie.

            And here’s a little of their rational:

            Clinton’s experience and steadiness make her best choice

            Hillary Clinton brings assets we’ve seen too little of this primary season — steadiness and experience at the highest levels of government.

            Her resume is impressive. She spent eight years in the U.S. Senate, representing New York from 2001 to 2009. She followed that with four years as secretary of state. Though she ran unsuccessfully for the Democratic nomination in 2008, she was in the White House for eight years working on policy while her husband was president.

            On foreign policy, she is more hawkish than Obama. Indeed, she backed escalation of the war in Afghanistan. She strongly supported intervention in Libya, with no plan for what
            came after overthrowing Muammar Gadhaffi. She’ll have to convince voters that she would use military force only when there is no other option.

            Overall, however, Hillary Clinton is smart, steady and able to
            rebound quickly from defeat. When her attempt at health care reform failed during her husband’s first term, Clinton worked with senators from both parties – Democrat Ted Kennedy and Republican Orrin Hatch– to create the Children’s Health Insurance Program, which cut the uninsured rate of American children in half. More than eight million children have coverage because of the program.

            Critics who claim Clinton has no record of accomplishment despite her sparkling resume need to look closer at her record.

            She helped secure more than $21 billion for World Trade Center redevelopment. She led investigations into the health problems of 9/11 first responders. She promoted increased National Institutes of Health funding for research into cancer and asthma. She was the principal author of sanctions – particularly on oil imports to the European Union– that brought Iran to the negotiating table. She helped bring about a
            2012 cease-fire between Hamas and Israel that headed off an Israeli invasion of Gaza. She named an “ambassador at large” for women’s rights.

            “Nearly every foreign policy victory of President Obama’s second term,” said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., “has Secretary Clinton’s fingerprints on it.”

            They weren’t 100% positive on her, for more of their assessment go here:


          11. Independent1 June 20, 2016

            Trump gets things done?? What a joke!! By conning people into voodoo projects he’s set up knowing he will declare bankruptcy part way through the fiasco and walk off with millions in profits while leaving investors holding the bag. And what planet have you been living on when there has been one world leader after another in an absolute panic about Trump being elected – THERE IS NO WORLD LEADER THAT WOULD EVEN LET TRUMP IN HIS OR HER OFFICE – YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD TOO FAR UP YOUR BUTT WITH THAT ONE!!! (Except maybe Putin and the idiot in North Korea.) They’ve already banned him from entering England and France.

          12. paulyz June 22, 2016

            Solyndra comes to mind!

          13. jsjca June 29, 2016

            The EIGHTH and final Benghazi hearing agreed with former hearings that the military could not get to Benghazi in time. To say that Hillary does not have guts to be president is an admission that you know nothing about Hillary. Trump a great negotiator? He refused to appear before M Kelly. His businesses go bankrupt. He doesn’t pay his small contractors or workers. Financial institutions have had to bail him out so often, that many won’t let him make any business decisions, but they merely have a license to use his name, which he has also screwed up. He says he is raising money for a charity and then does not give it to the charity unless he is caught and has to pay up.

          14. William Burke Jr June 30, 2016

            I just heard the mother of one of the victims at Benghazi and she’s mad at Hillary big time. She showed up at her son’s funeral and said she would “find out what happened” and then never called her back. Her name is Patricia Smith and said that “Hillary Clinton is a liar and should be wearing stripes.”

          15. jsjca June 20, 2016

            I agree with you.

          16. William Burke Jr June 20, 2016

            Please see my comment to PrecipitousDrop below.

          17. jsjca June 20, 2016

            You are confusing movies with the media. None of the major television news operations—Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, ABC News, CBS News, or NBC News are currently headed by a Jewish executive.

            The NY Times is owned by a Jewish family, although it has been very critical of Israel. The Washington Post was owned by a Jewish family, but was purchased by a non-Jewish family. You are disregarding the thousands of small newspapers in small towns across America which are mostly not owned by Jews.

            Your criticism overlooks the role of major shareholders like Warren Buffett who is Disney‘s largest investor; and, Bill Gates who owns a big piece of DreamWorks and MSNBC.

            Conversely, Jews do not own large newspaper chains such as Hearst Communications, Times Mirror, the Chicago Tribune‘s empire, Reader’s Digest, and Dan Quayle’s family ownership of the Arizona Republic and the Indianapolis Star.

            The Jewish community is often the first to stand up and fight discrimination toward others. They walked with Dr. King and currently they oppose the anti-Muslim bigotry promoted by Trump and the Right. Further, the Jews are very generous with donations to charitable groups, many of which have nothing to do with Jewish causes. If Jews are so powerful, how is it they have been the victims of discrimination, torture, and death for centuries culminating with the horrors of the Halocaust?

            I am curious. Do you ever say some businesses are controlled by Christians? Do you ever say these Christians are shamefully biased and not impartial? BTW, I am a Christian.

            I know about Hitler’s abusive father although I don’t see how that relates to the media. So you think that Hitler permitting one Jew to escape the Halocaust, if true, mitigates his killing of 6 million Jews.

            Nor do I see the relationship between Stalin and Hitler’s killings. They were both vile, evil men and trying to say one was more evil than the other is just silly.

            Sorry, but your comments are straight out of the Nazis and other right wing anti-Semitic lies and distortions. Again, shame on you.

        2. Independent1 June 20, 2016

          You’re sick of liberal views. Would you please share with us, all the wonderful things that conservatives’ views have created for America, given that history has shown that Republican governance is a disaster for America, not only financially but socially.

          Exactly what are all the things that Conservatives have brought to our country???

          I’m waiting to see your list.

          While you’re waiting, I’ll just list a couple things that liberals have brought.

          Social Security which is without question has been the most popular and depended on benefit to I’d guess at least a billion Americans since it was enacted in the 1930s.

          And how about Medicare which similar to SS is not only similarly popular with Americans but has been proven to be the most cost effective healthcare process in America – and has arguably allowed millions of Americans to live longer more prosperous and enjoyable lives than any other benefit offerred in the country since it was enacted under a liberal back in the 1960s.

          And despite what I’m sure will be your negative reaction – support for unions which up until conservatives have worked to destroy them, had enhanced the lives of millions, maybe billions of Americans by working to have greedy corporate employers deal fairly with the people who worked for them – by providing them with at least a modicum of benefits such as vacation time, healthcare, good/safe working conditions and more. Until of course as we’ve seen since Reagan began the destruction of them has seen many of these worker enhancements go down the drain.

          So come on!! I’m waiting to see this wondrous list of all that inhumane conservatives like you have done for Americans and our country (and starting unnecessary wars that ended up killing thousands of Americans doesn’t qualify as something wondrous).

          1. William Burke Jr June 20, 2016

            I think that Franklin D Roosevelt was our greatest president, greater even than Lincoln. Soc Sec is great. But I don’t like liberal views on abortion (I think abortion is ok for a good reason, like rape, incest, health of the mother, etc.) or when they object to a Christmas scene at a town hall. I admit Trump comes on a little too strong, but the man is a good negotiator, can close deals with foreign countries, and actually get things done! Much of what he says is misconstrued. He doesn’t want to bar all Muslims from the US, only those from parts of the world who have Islamic terrorists.
            Trump is right about China, Japan, and Mexico screwing us on trade deals, even Bernie Sanders agrees with that.

          2. Independent1 June 21, 2016

            And exactly what gives you or anyone else the right to tell another human being what they can and can’t do WITH THEIR BODY??

            I don’t and neither does any member of my family believe in abortion. But we’re all against the way the conservatives are going about trying to prevent women from feeling they need them. Working to ban them is exactly the wrong approach – studies have shown that more abortions occur where they’re not legal.

            And why? Because legal abortion clinics like Planned Parenthood talk thousands of women each year out of getting an abortion; and they provide millions of women with the information and tools (contraceptives/education) to help women keep from getting unexpected pregnancies in the 1st place. When conservatives shut down these clinics they’re eliminating all the efforts being made to reduce abortions at the source (keeping women from getting pregnant accidentally in the first place).

            Anyone who thinks that women will not seek out an abortion even if they’re supposedly banned and legal clinics in an area or state are closed – is living in fantasy land. A woman who has decided she is not able to carry a fetus to term, will find a way to get an abortion one way or another. If she can’t afford to travel, she’ll seek out the black market (an abortion in a back alley maybe) which is just what is not wanted because black market performed abortions are not only deadly to the, their often deadly to the woman too. And Red states already lead the nation in infant and maternal mortality rates.

          3. paulyz June 22, 2016

            Guess with your “logic” we need to make prostitution, drugs, and other behavior legal, since as long as it’s “their body”. See your back with your BS stats again, here’s one, Liberals purchase WAY more foreign autos & products than Conservatives.

          4. paulyz June 22, 2016

            I agree with many things you say, but do NOT agree that FDR was our greatest President, many of his programs were not meant to create dependency, but he opened the door to Big Federal Government. S.S. & Medicare have been increasingly political, & going bankrupt, & it is OUR OWN money that the government takes from us, then tells us when & how much we get back, pay taxes on it again, & when we die, it goes not to our heirs, but to the Government.

        3. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

          Stop shooting at yourself, Burke.
          It was fun at first.
          It’s just annoying now.

          1. William Burke Jr June 20, 2016

            You’re right, PrecipitousDump, I’d much rather shoot at you
            and your annoying big mouth. I’m voting for Trump.

          2. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            Of course you are!
            You could not do any worse.

          3. The lucky one June 21, 2016

            And Trump thanks you, after he stops laughing at you of course.

        4. Elliot J. Stamler June 21, 2016

          Ah, at last a real Trump p.o.s. like Wm. Burke, Jr. lets his underlying hatred of Jews come out.
          If the Jews controlled all media, Burke wouldn’t be able to publish his hateful comment. But Burke and similar vermin will explain everything: namely that it’s “The Jews” who are responsible for every evil on earth.

          1. William Burke Jr June 21, 2016

            Go to hell, Stamler, you S.O.B. The Jews have been screwing
            the Palestinians for years, those people have no life at all.And
            why should we be giving Israel money when we are trillions of dollars in debt? The Halocaust is over, get over it!!!!

          2. William Burke Jr June 22, 2016

            Go to Hell, Stamler. You’re a filthy S.O.B. The Jews have been screwing the Palestinians for years now. Those people have nothing! And why should the U.S. being giving money to Israeil when we are trillions of dollars in debt! The Holocaust was over many years ago. Get over it!!!
            Donald Trump has many wealth Jewish friends in New York, and they all want peace in Israel. Trump is a good negotiator, he gets things done. I think he could actually as President negotiate a deal between Israel and the Palestinians.

          3. William Burke Jr June 22, 2016

            You’re a filthy S.O. B., Stamler. Israel has been screwing the Palestinians for years. Those people have nothing! And the US shouldn’t be giving Israel money when it’s trillions of dollars in debt.
            The holocaust was over many years ago. Get over it!!

            Donald Trump has very wealthy Jewish friends in New York City who he works with all the time, and they all want peace in Israel. Trump is an excellent negotiator and if president, he said he’d like to give brokering a peace between Israel and Palestine a shot. I think he could do it!

          4. William Burke Jr June 22, 2016

            You’re a filthy S.O.B., Stamler. Israel has been treating the Palestinians like crap for years now. Those people don’t have anything. And the US should not be giving Israel money when it’s trillions of dollars in debt. The Holocaust was over many years ago. Get over it!!!!
            Donald Trump has many very wealthy Jewish friends in New York City
            who he works with all the time, and they all want peace in Israel.
            Trump is an excellent negotiator and I think as president that he could actually broker a deal between Israel and the Palestinians. He said he would like to “give it a shot.”

        5. The lucky one June 21, 2016

          I know this is way over your intellectual ability but try explaining how a media industry owned primarily by right wingers promotes liberal views.

    2. Independent1 June 19, 2016

      And in cased like so many other clueless right wingers you haven’t heard – the mastermind of Benghazi HAS ADMITTED THAT THE VIDEO WAS A MOTIVATOR FOR THE ATTACK, SO HILLARY NEVER LIED ABOUT ANYTHING!!!!!!!

      1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 20, 2016

        of course the video was a part of it heck don’t take much to get those ISIS clowns going pretty much the same way it dosent take much to get the brain dead DONNY DUMP followers going

      2. paulyz June 20, 2016

        WOW, you still believe that? Hilary was PROVEN lying about the video many times. What a Dummy and a fool!

        1. Independent1 June 20, 2016

          Explain please, given that the attack mastermind confirmed that it was the video which was part of the motivation for the attack, just what did Hillary say that was a lie (especially given that during the attack there were numerous conflicting reports of what was actually going on in Benghazi from different people there).

          What I suspect is that like so many right-wingers, you’re doing nothing but fabricating reality.

        2. Eleanore Whitaker June 20, 2016

          PaulyZ…Hillary was just cleared of any email wrondoing. You want to tell us liar boy why you can’t man up about how Trey Gowdy, Chair of the Benghazi hearings falsified email evidence in the federal investigation of Benghazi? Or do you just have problems with Hillary because your Mommy dropped you on your dumb ass as an infant and your brain stopped working?

          As for Hillary lying in the video..I am going to call your bluff…Show us government legal documents that prove what you posted or STFU. I am fed up with men like you who loathe the idea of ANY woman being one step in front of you lying all the time.

          Get a new set of balls jerk!

          1. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

            Balls don’t matter. Pauly’s pecker is about the size of a cocktail Gherkin.

          2. Eleanore Whitaker June 20, 2016

            I think most Americans are so fed up hearing right wing BS most of us would love to reinstate those pillories so they can publicly mouth off until they suffer from terminal laryngitis.

          3. paulyz June 20, 2016

            So, you prefer my balls?

          4. PrecipitousDrop June 21, 2016

            Um, No, Pauly.
            Apparently, neither do you.

          5. paulyz June 21, 2016

            Right, I prefer women, am not gay like a lot of you. But not Liberal “women”, they are more like men!

          6. The lucky one July 1, 2016

            And “conservative” women are more like the blow up dolls you’ve had most of your sexual experience with. LOL

          7. paulyz July 1, 2016

            Hear that Women, this idiot just insulted Millions of Women. Just as the Liberals wanting Thousands more unvetted Muslim refugees here, that treat Women like slaves, & worse, the Democrat-Socialist Party certainly seems to have a War on Women. LMAO.

          8. The lucky one July 1, 2016

            You’re right. The real insult is the implication that a conservative woman (doubt there are millions) would spend any intimate time with you. Does your doll have orange hair?

          9. paulyz July 1, 2016

            Of course I am right about my comment as always. But you still insulted Millions of Women. My Women are intelligent, Patriotic & informed. Maybe your “women” have male parts, LMAO.

          10. The lucky one July 1, 2016

            Assuming you’ve ever been with an actual woman and not just fantasizing, that’s a real stretch but for the sake of argument, the fact that they are with you proves they are neither intelligent or informed.

          11. PrecipitousDrop July 2, 2016

            “MY Women are…” YOUR women?
            So, how many women do you own, pauly?

          12. PrecipitousDrop July 2, 2016

            You’re cracked, pauly.

          13. The lucky one July 1, 2016

            Why do imbeciles like you think you are insulting someone by implying they are gay? No one with half a brain cares about somebody else’s sexual orientation any more than about the color of their eyes.

          14. Eleanore Whitaker June 21, 2016

            What balls? You mistake raisins for balls?

          15. paulyz June 21, 2016

            A ball-buster like you most likely would turn them to raisins!

          16. PrecipitousDrop June 21, 2016

            Pauly pickle pecker.

          17. paulyz June 22, 2016

            You do seem obsessed with peckers!

          18. PrecipitousDrop June 22, 2016

            Pauly, that so-o-o-o Yesterday!
            Try to keep up, OK?

          19. paulyz June 23, 2016

            So today you are obsessed with balls??

          20. paulyz June 20, 2016

            My, my, the man-hating, anti-White, angry Liberal at it again. OF COURSE Hillary LIED! Hard for a completely biased woman to admit the truth about her love of Hillary.

          21. Eleanore Whitaker June 21, 2016

            My, my my, Paulz finally proves what a low life coward he is. He A. can’t prove Hillary lied about anything B. Can’t Prove her lies in a court of law C. Can’t provide legal documentation no mater how many times he’s asked. and D.? The best one yet. This little tripe when asked for proof does what all COWARDS always do…turn the spotlight back on those of us who handed him truth he can’t mentally process. Tell us again how thes right wing nuts are not mentally deranged.

            Come up with proof of what you accuse Hillary of jackass. Or is your mental illness incapable of understanding that lying about someone when you have NO proof is libel in US courts.

            Hey PaulyZ…practice saying, “YES Madame President.” oooooh and right now PaulyZ’s brain is on fire.

          22. paulyz June 21, 2016

            Having a hissy fit little lady? WHy Hillary would make a terrible President, gets upset too easily like you!

          23. Eleanore Whitaker June 21, 2016

            Hillary is going to be the best and first female president. You had your 44 men. As for hissy fits. Wrong. I simply refuse to allow morons like you to think you can lie and distort and that will be the last word. Now, do be a good little snot nosed punk and learn to say, “Madame President” before those raisins in your jeans rot and begin to stink.

          24. The lucky one June 21, 2016

            You’re presuming a lot here EW. Do you really see any evidence that Pauly possesses a functioning brain?

          25. Eleanore Whitaker June 21, 2016

            Ooops…You are right…My mistake. roflmao

          26. paulyz July 2, 2016

            A “few” examples.

          27. Eleanore Whitaker July 2, 2016


            Enjoy the photos of Bush holding hands with his Saudi Prince. Since Hillary is no longer the Secy of State, perhaps a jerkoff like you would like to tell us why SHE and not Kerry gets the blame. You are one sick BS artist.

          28. paulyz July 3, 2016

            STILL need to go back to Bush I see. Rather have our President shake hands than BOW down to them like Obama! Maybe soon we will have a new Attorney General as well, maybe a forth lying Press Secretary as well. The stress from constantly covering BO’s ass must be terrible, constant lying.

      3. PrecipitousDrop June 20, 2016

        Please do not fail to note that the provocative video was written, cast, produced and distributed by a right-wing islamophobe in southern California.

    3. The lucky one June 21, 2016

      Educate yourself before you spout absurdities. North Korea lacks that capability. I do see why you are a Trump groupie. He also shoots his mouth off with no regard for facts. A more likely scenario regarding Trump as president and N Korea is that the other world ‘leader” with a hairdo as ridiculous as Trump’s insults Trump and his notoriously thin skin causes him to retaliate militarily.

      1. William Burke Jr June 30, 2016

        And you are a complete a!!!ole. North Korea may have that capablity very soon. You pay attention to men’s hairdo’s? Your’re probably gay.

        1. PrecipitousDrop June 30, 2016

          Gay is NOT a bad thing, Burke.
          Dry up and blow away.
          Quickly, please.

          1. William Burke Jr July 1, 2016

            Yes it is, F_G. It’s unnatural. Go to hell.

          2. PrecipitousDrop July 1, 2016

            I love you, too, Sweetheart.

          3. The lucky one July 1, 2016

            ” It’s (homosexulaity) unnatural” Get a clue will ya. Try reading something other than bigoted confused nonsense. Sigh, just another imbecile easily led by anyone echoing his bigoted ignorant hatefulness.

          4. William Burke Jr July 1, 2016

            If you want to suck cock, go right ahead. I prefer good looking girls, they’re beautiful. Gay people do disgusting things. Kissing a man is like kissing a horse! You better be careful who you make love to or you’ll get a good case of aids. I actually feel sorry for gay men. They can’t help the way they are, they have no control over it.

          5. PrecipitousDrop July 1, 2016

            Ooh! Homoeroticism AND bestialty.
            You’re a complex man, Burke!

          6. The lucky one July 1, 2016

            A little cognitive dissonance huh billy boy? They’re “unnatural” do “disgusting things” and you obviously use “gay” as an epithet but you don’t dislike gay men and acknowledge that being homosexual is not a choice. Clue for ya bud, heterosexual people get HIV too.

            You are right though in that you have no right to judge another’s consensual sex behavior.

            Having never kissed a horse or a man I’ll concede to your superior experience in that area.

          7. William Burke Jr July 1, 2016

            I was only making a point. The only man I’ve ever kissed is my father and my son when he was a little boy. I already told you I prefer women. I didn’t use gay as an epithet at all, just as a statement of fact, it’s what they prefer to be called, isn’t it?

          8. The lucky one July 1, 2016

            But you had no point to make. There were no “facts” in your statement. There is nothing unnatural about homosexuality and what constitutes “disgusting things” is a personal issue.

            Since I’m not homosexual I don’t know what if any euphemism they prefer. Maybe, like me, they prefer to be thought of as human beings and not categorized according to a characteristic that is irrelevant to their humanity.

          9. Eleanore Whitaker July 2, 2016

            Right wingers just make it up as they go. They never have facts. The minute demand they show proof, they change the subject or else they disappear. Not unlike the disappearing act Cheney and Bush pulled after their delightful little torture fests.

          10. PrecipitousDrop July 2, 2016

            We’ve read your posts, Burke.
            We’ve seen what gets your motor running.

          11. Eleanore Whitaker July 2, 2016

            Aww…is Lil Willie scared of his own secret homosexual tendencies?

          12. William Burke Jr July 2, 2016

            I much prefer good-looking girls, Eleanore. And I’m hardly “Lil”,
            I weigh over 200 lbs.

          13. Eleanore Whitaker July 3, 2016

            Perhaps, breaking a sweat once in a while or working out on the treadmaster will help with your middle aged paunch.

        2. The lucky one July 1, 2016

          May have, could have, would have, should have. try to stay with reality if you want to be taken seriously. Not hard to see why you support the demagogue Trump. LOL, why Billy boy, you looking for a hook-up?

  17. Eleanore Whitaker June 20, 2016

    The pathetic ting about most wingers is they are mentally ill. I’ll prove it. Try and reason with a mental patient. Can’t be done. It is their way or no way. Try reasoning with a winger…same thing.

    Try presenting facts to a mental patient and they lived in a dimension of denial not unlike that of wingers who believe their “opinions” are “facts.” Then, you call their bluff and demand they show you proof. When they can’t because as always they are mentally incapable of distinguishing facts and proof from their own fantasy lies, they do what all mental patients do…go into a rage and attack, sometimes, verbally, other times? Physically. See mentally ill wingers.

  18. Eleanore Whitaker June 20, 2016

    Trey Gowdy thought he was going to sink Hillary at those Benghazi hearings. Hillary sat there patiently waiting for the little BS artist to stop exploding like Mt. Vesuvious and then she gave him answers to his questions that were based on the collections of data from the Joint Chiefs on the ground in Benghazi at the time of the attacks.

    So what does mental case Gowdy do? He doctored the emails just to get his way like the little paid Koch attack dog he is.

    Not to worry. Jason Chaffetz, in order to get HIS way, edited the Planned Parenthood film to make it more volatile. Until he got caught.

    You falsify evidence in a federal investigation and see if you get away with it.

    Grr…Get Rid of Republicans..or ..do what we are all doing…watch the Republicans flush themselves down the toilet with one scandal after another, one massive lie proven to be a lie after another and all of their attack dogs under investigation like Gowdy, Cotton, Issa and Chaffetz. Did these asshat think all they had to do was jimmy evidence and intelligent people would never know?

    1. Independent1 June 20, 2016

      But then lying, cheating and falsifying evidence is the only way right-wingers know how to accomplish anything. Which is why Trump really is like a Republican – all he knows how to do is lie and cheat, and spew racist, hypocritical, bigoted statements one right after the other.

      1. Eleanore Whitaker June 20, 2016

        Since Warren Harding’s Secy of the Interior, Fall, tried to sell public lands for pennies on the dollar in that TeaPot Dome Scandal, the Republicans were less a “political party” than they were a template for professional organized crime. Hoover schmoozed with Wall Street speculators and his flim flamming gave millions of Americans the Great Depression. Nixon, the WaterGate Burglar, though was the worst black stain on the GOP and one that to this day still stings.

        One reason they allowed Reagan to run for president wazs because the back room GOP would never again allow any GOP president to make decisions all on his own as Nixon did. So, they used GHWB’s skills as a CIA chief to get hold of Reagan’s medical records which proved Reagan in his 60s was already suffering from Alzheimer’s. So much the better to run the presidency from the back room for the GOP.

        GHWB’s reward for his selling arms to the Contras and getting Reagan elected via those medical records wasn’t enough to get him a second term. It was the one time when the GOP didn’t dare say the former president Reagan cause GHWB’s one-term recession.

        On to bigger and better things. By 1994, the other member of the GOP Axis of Evil, Richard Cheney approached the GOP to make a run for president. The GOP refused because they knew Cheney was a solo decision maker like Nixon.

        But Cheney always knew how to get what he wanted even if it was through Halliburton’s back door. IN 1996, he made a deal with Halliburton and got to be their CEO if they funded the 2000 GOP election. Cheney knew exactly who the GOP would accept, the dunderheaded, lazy son of GHWB who hazd already 2 business bankrupticies to his credit. GWB was the perfect front man and for the GOP, Cheney would be controlled as president from the back room. The rest is US history. Halliburton got its no bid contract to supply Iraq. GWB spent 18 months marketing and selling the Iraq war and now the CON men have gotten what they asked for: Donald Trump.

  19. GregR June 20, 2016

    1. “To influence the masses, aim first at the least intelligent.”
    2. “If you tell them a lie, don’t tell a little one. Tell a big one.”
    3. “Undermine the faith of the masses in their leaders.”
    4. “By the use of flattery, insignificant people can be made to look upon themselves as born leaders.”

    1. ivory69690@yahoo.com June 20, 2016

      then again some (to most ) of DONNY DUMP brain dead followers don’t know the difference between a lie and the truth anyways

  20. Billabob Johnson June 20, 2016

    If Trump does what he promises in his campaign, launch a pogrom to deport 11 million people, build a wall between countries, embrace unparalleled isolationism and cut taxes for everyone, the US will undergo the kind of recession and subsequent depression such that only a war can keep him in office. And his targets of opportunity are the Middle East and China since he a Putin are such buds. Oh wait a minute, that sounds like something from the past, another Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. The odd thing about Hitler comparisons to the Donald is how they keep mounting.


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