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Donald Trump, The Bible, and the Two Corinthians

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Donald Trump went Monday to the hard-right Liberty University, reaching out to voters in this bastion of the religious right and to show his own dedication to Christianity — even if he doesn’t quite know the names of books in the Bible.

“And we’re going to protect Christianity. And I can say that — I don’t have to be politically correct — we’re going to protect it,” The Donald proclaimed. “And I asked Jerry (University chancellor Jerry Falwell, Jr.), and I asked some of the folks, because I hear this is your major theme right here, but Two Corinthians — Two Corinthians 3:17, that’s the whole ballgame. ‘Where the spirit of The Lord is, there is liberty.’ And here there is Liberty College – Liberty University.”

Note: The book of the New Testament that Trump referenced here, often written as “2 Corinthians,” is in fact pronounced “Second Corinthians,” from its actual formal title, “Second Epistle to the Corinthians.”

Trump continued, undeterred: “But it is so true, when you think. And that’s really — is that the one? Is that the one you like? I think that’s the one you like, ’cause I loved it!”

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  1. Andrea January 18, 2016

    Two Corinthian is the Scottish/Irish way of saying it. Trump’s devout mother was Scottish. Ian Paisley, the First Minister of Northern Ireland and Pastor of Presbyterian Church, used to say, turn into your Bibles to Two Corinthians.

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    1. Joe Martin January 18, 2016

      Not just Scottish/Irish or Presbyterian but also the normal British English way of referring to books of the Bible with a “1” or “2” in the English title – whether Anglican, Baptist, or whatever.

      I am not attracted at all to Trump’s demagoguery, but neither am I impressed by a critic who demonstrates simple provincialism in a self-satisfied but mistaken effort to us teach how it “is in fact pronounced”.

      1. Andrea January 18, 2016

        I was unaware of that. Thank you! : )

        1. Joe Martin January 18, 2016

          You’re welcome, Andrea. I just hope Eric Kleefeld takes it on board!

  2. yabbed January 18, 2016

    I’m not too concerned about Donald Trump going full bore radical Christian on us. He’s a Presbyterian of sorts, as most Presbyterians are, and he’s a NYer. We NYers all have friends/family/neighbors/co-workers who are Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jew, atheist, whatever. We don’t care.

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  3. ham hock January 18, 2016

    Trump pandering to the christian masses is pretty amusing.

    the christian masses falling for this idiots b.s….not so much.

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    1. Andrea January 18, 2016

      He cussed 6 times, never mentioned abortion/gay rights. How’s that pandering?

      1. ham hock January 20, 2016

        Pretending to care about religious issues in order to gain the religious vote is by definition, pandering.

        And even if it is obvious to intelligent people that he is only pretending to care about christian issues because it will drive his poll numbers up, that doesnt mean the brainwashed masses of ignorant conservative sheep will know that. Think a little.

  4. Aaron_of_Portsmouth January 18, 2016

    Trump comes through again—a veritable font of half-truths, paranoid views of the world and “the others”, and using/misusing the Bible as a tool to further a personal agenda.

    He’s not the first to “corrupt” the Book(in this case, the New Testament) — racist and “racialists of the past, and populist politicians have done likewise. Fanatical Muslims, extremist Jews, arch-conservative Hindus, etc. have done the same with their honored Texts—and I use the word “honored” with sincerity and not as an empty platitude.

    As the evidence in the New Testament shows, the 2 books of “Corinthians” refers to two epistles written by the disciple Paul to the Church of Corinth, whose followers in English parlance were “Corinthians”.

    The commemoration of the late Dr. Martin Luther King, when juxtaposed with the divisiveness fomented by a Party in particular, and by Trump’s use of the Bible for an agenda, offers an intriguing confluence.

    In 1 Corinthians, chapter 1, verse 10, Paul states:

    ” Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgement”.

    Now, compare that with the rhetoric on the campaign trail; the divisive ideologies of partisan politics; the numerous sects within Christianity; and the racial divide that still exists in America alone. It’s clear how far America has deviated from the Words and Spirit enshrined in New Testament.

    On a final note, let me reiterate a passage from a New Revelation(“The Baha’i Faith”) that amplifies the theme in 1 Corinthians verse 10. This is from Baha’u’llah’s ‘The

    Hidden Words’:

    “O CHILDREN OF MEN! Know ye not why We created you all from the same dust? That no one should exalt himself over the other. Ponder at all times in your hearts how ye were created. Since We have created you all from one same substance it is incumbent on you to be even as one soul, to walk with the same feet, eat with the same mouth and dwell in the same land, that from your inmost being, by your deeds and actions, the signs of oneness and the essence of detachment may be made manifest. Such is My counsel to you, O concourse of light! Heed ye this counsel that ye may obtain the fruit of holiness from the tree of wondrous glory.”

    The above citation by Baha’u’llah which was enunciated the 19th Century is just a sample of what has been infused in the world, and which may have prompted the heart of Dr. King, and other like-minded people, then and now.

    Just my unofficial comment.

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    1. Charles Winter January 18, 2016

      Also note that many new testament scholars consider 2 Corinthians to have been written by someone other than St. Paul. The author of Romans and Philemon is far different and much more liberal than the author of 2 Corinthians.

      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth January 18, 2016

        That’s a good point. You’ve brought up a very interesting theme insofar as the question of authorship, even authenticity, of various aspects of various Religions of the world is concerned.
        I’m aware that disagreements exist among Biblical scholars as to who wrote what, and whether the authors(Disciples) words were accurately transcribed by later compilers of Scriptures.

        As a Baha’i, I have learned that although the question of authenticity exists in regards to all the Texts that have been revealed, I and Baha’is around the world have no doubt about the “Spirit” that has proceeded from the same Source and has been the motive Force that inspired all the Religions—even those we have no records of, or for which there was no written tradition associated with the culture that a Messenger(s) addressed.

        Therefore, we strive to read “between the lines” and search out the underlying meanings without being overly concerned and distracted as to dates, places, and authorship.

        Even though Islam is generally agreed to be authentic and accurate(even by Christian scholars), we clearly see by Islamic fanatics’ actions that authenticity doesn’t guarantee that the “faithful” will understand the “hidden” meanings in the verses and surahs in the Qur’an-or even how to apply the guidance in a modern era.
        (Abdu’l Wahhab, an Islamic cleric of 18th Century Saudi Arabia, had a particularly warped interpretation of what is already written in the Qur’an, and has infected in a “viral” fashion the minds of many Muslims then and today, and has helped further split Islam into numerous sects, Islamic schools of jurisprudence, and “favored” hadiths according to a segment’s taste).

        I’m not a scholar–just a reader, and am curious about people, their cultures, and how I fit in with them.

        I could digress even further regarding the notion of a “Covenant”(Lesser and Greater) and how that solves the question of authenticity and provides a “Standard”. Perhaps in another posting.
        (www.bahai.org is a much better guidepost and reliable “pointer”).

  5. Dave Francis January 18, 2016

    YOU WANT CHANGE IN OUR NATION? YOU HAVE GOT IT, BY VOTING FOR
    DONALD TRUMP?

    This is the epitome of what Democrats and the GOP Syndicates is
    doing to this sovereign country and only Donald Trump, a Conservative that the
    two parties are livid about? Just remember
    Donald Trump is disliked, because he cannot be bought by the wealthy special
    interests. It means change for the American people, as they have been ripped
    off long enough by the politicians that are in the financially dependant on the
    deep pockets of the affluent, which is the dark side of this government; very
    few are innocent of taking money. They are happy with their pockets full of
    cash and it’s not only for their campaigns, but their own personal use.

    JUST REMEMBER DONALD TRUMP IS UNTOUCHABLE, AS NOBODY CAN BUY HIS
    ALLEGIANCE TO THE US PEOPLE. THE REST ARE
    PUPPETS OF THE POWERFUL, THE INFLUENTIAL WHO HAVE THEIR LOBBYISTS HIDING IN
    EVERY CORNER OF CONGRESS WITH A BLANK CHECK.
    ONCE SEATED IN CONGRESS MAYBE MONTHS OR YEARS LATER, THEY WILL RECEIVE A
    PHONE CALL…IT’S TIME TO PAY THE PIPER?

    SO MANY ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED BY THIS BUSINESSMAN AND NOW
    POLITICIAN ON BOTH SIDES WILL DO EVERYTHING IN THEIR POWER TO DESTROY HIS PARAMOUNT REPUTATION FOR GETTING
    THINGS DONE.

    King Obama is to blame for the lax enforcement at the border,
    but the House of Representatives also must carry the REAL BLAME, as they let
    pass the Omnibus budget and funding everything that this extreme Liberal
    President wanted. This includes taxpayer money for the resettlement of Syrian
    Refugees, which should remain in safe zones in their own country guarded by
    neutral troops and BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to house, educate and offer benefits to
    illegal alien entries throughout our nation.

    ONLY ONE MAN, ONE VERY TOUGH GUY WILL BEGIN THE DEPORTATION OR
    REPATRIATION OF THE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS SQUATTING HERE. AFTER INAUGURATION BUILDING THE WALL, FIRST ON
    DONALD TRUMPS LIST AND THEN THE PINNACLE OF INTERIOR ENFORCEMENT MANDATED
    E-VERIFY. THE DEPLOYMENT OF 1000 OF MORE ICE AGENTS, TO IMPLEMENT A NEW PHRASE
    OF E-VERIFY TO SEEK OUT THE UNKNOWN NUMBERS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS, OVERSTAYS
    AND MIGRANTS, USING DIGITAL
    E-VERIFY. AS A FULCRUM IN THE WORKPLACE,
    TARGETING TO SEE WHO ARE HERE LEGALLY? AGENTS WILL COME DOWN HEAVILY ON
    BUSINESSES THAT PROVIDE WORK FOR ILLEGAL NATIONALS, AND THEY WILL BE HELD
    ACCOUNTABLE WITH HARSH PENALTIES.

    California issued more than a
    half-million driver’s licenses under a new law granting the identifying
    documents to immigrants who may be in the country illegally,” the Associated
    Press noted.
    “The Department of Motor Vehicles announced Wednesday that 605,000 licenses
    were issued since AB60 took effect last January. That’s out of 830,000
    applications.”

    But this month, passions have run high amid a spate of
    federal immigration raids both real and imagined. In events that sent tremors
    through California politics, “Democrats, led by the Congressional Hispanic
    Caucus, have protested a number of raids carried out in southern states by
    Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers against illegal immigrants from
    Central America — 121 adults and children who had been ordered to leave the
    country by a judge,” ABC News reported.
    “Rep. Zoe Lofgren, D-California, who has been in constant communication
    with White House officials and attended the Tuesday meeting with the White
    House council, said she was not aware of any imminent ‘pause’ to the
    operations.” Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had predicted a
    reprieve, although he couldn’t speak to when the White House might announce it, according to The Hill.

    Originally
    published by CalWatchdog.com

    MORE STATES ARE BEGINNING TO ISSUE DRIVERS LICENSES TO FOREIGN
    NATIONALS WHO ARE STEALING AMERICAN JOBS AND TRUMP WILL END IT.

    UNDER A DONALD TRUMP PRESIDENCY IMMIGRATION RAIDS WILL BE FOR
    REAL, NOT THESE CONCOCTED LIES BY THE WHITE HOUSE.

    RED FLAG WARNING: IOWANS FLOOD THE CAUCUSES AND VOTE FOR DONALD
    TRUMP. IN NEW HAMPSHIRE GET OUT AND VOTE FOR
    TRUMP. NEVADANS AND EVERY AMERICAN WHO WANTS CHANGE OUR NATION FOR THE BETTER, THE
    LIKES WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN OUR LIFETIME. VOTE FOR TRUMP

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    1. greenlantern1 January 18, 2016

      Our FOUNDING FATHERS were MORMONS?

    2. yabbed January 18, 2016

      Somebody missed a dose today.

    3. Charles Winter January 18, 2016

      You are aware that M. Trump employed many undocumented immigrants to build his towers?

    4. ham hock January 20, 2016

      You do realize that as a 1%er Trump will only make it so people like him pay less in taxes and can send even more jobs to china and india. He cant be bought by the wealthy elite because he IS the wealthy elite you uneducated tool.

  6. greenlantern1 January 18, 2016

    Donald Trump endorsed Mitt Romney!
    Romney is a Mormon!
    Where, in the BOOK OF MORMON, is Corinthians?
    Where is the BOOK OF REVELATION?
    Is God as good as HIS WORD or not?

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    1. tbs January 19, 2016

      What are you trying to say?

      1. greenlantern1 January 20, 2016

        The BOOK OF MORMON was written in 1850!!
        Were our FOUNDING FATHERS MORMONS?

        1. ham hock January 20, 2016

          To an atheist Morman is no different than protestant or catholic. You are all fools to us.

  7. paulyz January 19, 2016

    Face it Folks, either Trump or Cruz will be our next President.

    Reply
    1. bobnstuff January 19, 2016

      I think non of the above is going to win. Not one for the folks running make me want to run to the polls to vote.

      1. paulyz January 22, 2016

        Who is your choice to run our Country?

        1. bobnstuff January 22, 2016

          My problem is I really don’t care for any of the people running. There are some I like less then others but non are really my choice. Of those running the less objectionable is Kasich and he’s not all that great. We need someone who can unite the country and I don’t see that in any of these people. The very thing that makes someone run for president make them unqualified for the job. It really doesn’t matter who is elected if the congress doesn’t do their job and work with each other and with the president.

    2. ham hock January 20, 2016

      Both lose by a landslide in every poll. Sanders v Trump has Sanders winning by almost 15 points. Clinton Vs Trump Clinton wins by 10. Even O’malley wins out over either of them. Face it, your party is a joke.

      1. paulyz January 22, 2016

        Hillary is a joke soon to be indicted, and Bernie is out of touch with 75% of Americans, except for the “un-American Liberal losers like yourself that want free stuff from the governnent” (other Americans’ stuff).

        1. ham hock February 1, 2016

          Oh you poor child. Still spouting your breitbart fed talking points. You’re adorable. I dont support hillary, but i do know she will never be indicted. You are such a joke believing that nonsense. So if Chris Christie, Rick Perry, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Rick Shnyder and many other conservatives who have FACTUALLY broken the law havent been arrested, do you really think she will, even though she did nothing against the law at any point in time? Making me laugh. You poor, stupid soul.

  8. Cloudherder January 19, 2016

    Is this a waste of time or what?

    Reply
  9. Paragryne January 19, 2016

    Two Corinthians walk into a bar…

    Reply

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