And he won’t because it will reveal the “Real Mitt”!

That’s right the President of the United States is the head of the National Employment service, he hires and fires people. He hired 4 million then fired 6 million for a net firing of 2 million. He intends to keep unemployment high for as long as he can. he also controls the price of Gasoline, he runs the futures market for oil futures. He buys cheap waits until demand rises then he sells it at a huge profit and forces gasoline prices up. It always amazes me how the prices go up in the summer time, when people are using more gasoline. I wonder how he figured that one out. Smart man. And that Hurricane Isaac, the president runs the secret weather control center in the basement of the white house and he created Isaac to disrupt the GOP Event in Tampa, and he threw in some flooding in Louisiana so he can go down there a look Presidential. I forgot, he dressed up in gear and joined the SEALS in the hunt for OBL. He was the one who made the head shot that killed OBL. He should let more people know about his personal involvement in killing OBL. He has been way to humble.

Let me see, what else has he done, oh yes, the stock market is roaring again, Corporate profits are at historical levels. Nah, that’s a good thing, can’t give him credit for that. There is a rise in poverty as the Financial Markets grow. That has got to Obama’s doing. Yes, he prevents the financial success of the Country from Trickling down to the population, so they are forced into Poverty, and he can take created for that rise in Poverty. What a saint. Taking all of the Country’s woes and accepting the blame for what is his fault anyway. What a guy. Now if he could only finish off the Middle Class than his job will be done.

I don’t understand his reluctance to lower taxes on the Wealthy, when he would benefit from the lower taxes. What’s that about? Romney is no fool , top of his list is lowering taxes on himself and his friends who got him the White House. and let’s throw in some deregulation to make it that much easier to acquire more wealth. Yeah, baby. The under class be damned, check the margins, we are all going to be stinking rich. Not the under class though, we need the cheap labor. Yeah, we need to keep Obama, without him who will we be able to blame. He’s perfect for that job, he seems to like taking the blame for every single problem of every single person in the USA. He is valuable in that way. Why would you want to get rid of the best scape goat history has ever provided the Country.

Shame on you!!! He is running on his record. As a social conservative. He has made cuts to programs other DEMs would never had touched, and he proposes the Government can help the economy as much as the GOP believes the same thing. It’s just that the GOP offers Government help through tax cuts. reducing our revenue, Spending in other words.

Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

According to the official government statistics:

• In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.

• In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.

• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.

• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.

• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.

Of course I am kidding you. I have not studied American History that well. And I can’t name all of the Presidents of the US. But, I can confidently tell you, Obama is the worst President in the History of the USA. Please don’t ask me how I know that, I can’t tell you it’s a secret. Also, I can confidently tell you this: he is a Muslim, Socialist, Anti- American, A Kenyan by Birth, a foreign scholarship student, a man who never achieved anything. Bah, big deal he’s the POTUS, 40 plus men before him have done that too. First Negro POTUS, he’s only half Negro the other half is White, so it doesn’t count as being the first Negro POTUS. He went to Harvard and Columbia two the the top Elitists schools in the world. But he only got in because he was a Negro, being half White still makes you a Negro to Colleges. He is from Chicago and we all know what that means. His wife has a big butt, and we all know how Negroes love big butts. He travels on vacation on the Public dime, I have heard the first family is responsible for all personal expenditures, food, hotels, clothing, toothpaste, etc. But I have been assured that is a lie. Therefore the First Family is spending our money on a lavishlife style. Lavish for Negroes, that is.

Yeah, want him out because—well….we all know why now, don’t we??

Caring takes effort and sacrifice. Right Wingers have no clue how lucky they are. They don’t need to concern themselves with the truth. Lying Ryan gave us an example of that. Broad unsubstantiated statements, no problem. Insults on a grade school level, here is where they excel.

Being a Liberal, on the other hand, takes work, looking up facts and information. Caring, being informed, caring, substance to statements, and caring. Not easy. I forgot, putting up with Right Wing sloganeering and talking points presented as in full and complete facts.

Wait until the Obama Campaign asks this question regarding vouchers of Medicare. Find us an insurance company that will take a voucher form an 80year old, and one with preexisting conditions, just about every 80 year old has preexisting conditions . The answer is not one Insurance company will accept the voucher alone. The 80 year old will have to make up the difference and it ain’t gonna be cheap. Vouchers are the worse idea ever for Medicare. And I take it you are a politically aware person and know that Obama did not take 700 Million away from the recipients.

I was hasty in pointing out the upcoming attack against the GOP by the Obama Campaign, that my language upon re reading it missed the mark of supporting your remark, and it appears a bit critical which was not my intent. I was writing with a broader reach to those who disagree with your point. But, alas, I failed. Sorry.

Actually, no, I am not buying the DNC strategy, I think I am pretty well informed. It seems pretty clear to me that the Republicans are doing exactly that. Trying to seperate people by minorities, income, and age. I actually believe your statement that we are all Americans. But then how do you expain the total indifference to different groups? That would mean that Republicans should be for Gay Marriage, Equal Rights for Women and minorities, Equal work for equal pay, The Dream Act, and others. We’re all Americans so we should all have the same freedoms and opportunities, Right?
By the way, I am a Republican, but you will be hard pressed to get me to vote for Romney/Ryan or any Republican in my district running for Congress. I voted for John McCain in 2000 before Bush won the nomination and voted for him in 2000 in the primaries, but when he picked Sarah Palin as his running mate, my vote went to Obama. I feel the same way now because Romney picked Ryan. How can you support someone who gets on a national platform and states bold faced lies as the truth? I know there are different arguments over his statements, but I look at things from the general view that if you will go to such great lengths to twist the facts, mis-represent facts, and completly ignore the opposite side of the facts, then you will lie about anything, anytime. This man is
a Liar.
Romney and Ryan are isolating groups for the sole purpose to gain control. I agree with you that I hope this country does not let it happen.

I never watch MSNBC and very rarely watch CNN. I also don’t watch FOX News. I actually get most of my news and information from printed publications. I read differing points of view on issues and try to see things from angles other than the ones I may see. If you can’t acknowledge that Ryan is telling bold-face lies, then there is no hope for you to ever be open minded to an opposite point of view. I am exactly the demographic the republicans are trying to convince to vote for them. Female, white, middle class, middle aged, employed and not receiving any type of government assistance. Instead when I post to sites like this I am argued with, insulted, and condemed for my opinion. You called me ludicrus and said I should know better. You are a perfect example of how the republican party has moved way to far to the right and is being influenced and controlled by the Tea Party radicals. You have only strenthened and helped to confirm my opinion to vote for Obama and Democrats for Congress.

I’ve been a registered republican for over 20 years! Your going to have to admit that there are people out here like me who don’t agree with you or Romney/Republicans. You like Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman and Todd Akin? You really think they are not radical? They and people like them are why many moderate republicans seriously wonder what has happened to the republican party. Your right about the fact that I have never been to a tea party gathering. I’ll give you that much. But I bet I am a whole bunch more open minded than you are! Stay in denial, it helps to keep your fears at bay. Maybe when Jeb Bush runs in 2016 republicans can have some hope their party will return to a party people can actually believe it and vote for.

Nope, don’t live in a Northeastern state!! Your hitting all misses today! My husband and son have been reading the posts we’ve sent back and forth and they think you are hilarious. The choice of words you use at different times are very telling. I’m sorry to tell you, but they are not voting for Romney either.

That’s not the impression I get of the Republican Party. When was the last time you read some of the comments posted on yahoo? I’ve seen minorities called names like monkeys, apes, cockroaches ,spics, oh and let’s not leave out the famous N word, some posters get creative and post it as “knee-grow”. This kind of activity DOES NOT match the statement you made. ” The Republican idea is that every single citizen has a right to as much freedom as possible ” Let’s not leave out the countless times Republican posters insinuate that minorities, particularly Blacks, make up the majority of the welfare and food stamp rolls, when any amount of research will tell you that in truth the majority of welfare and food stamp recipients are White. If the RNC gave you the opposite impression – they LIED.

mo: There is no strategy. Everything the GOPers did not talk about, will be talked about by the Democrats and that’s a lot of stuff. This silly idea of yours that all Americans have an equal footing is nonsense. There is nothing hindering the dreams of America other than a slow recovering Economy. When taxes are higher, historically unemployment is lower. This constant drum beat by the GOP that lowering taxes on the wealthy creates jobs is Bullshit. We had the Bush Cuts. Obama agreed to extend them. We should be drowning in jobs according to the GOP promise. And why is it that whenever the GOP steps in their own pile of crap they always blame the stink on Obama. Losers.
You entire comment is nonsense. It is GOP speak to make you think you know what your talking about. Your party are racists, homophobes, misogynists and unhappy people. What is the intent of a Food stamp President, don’t tell me that is not a subtle dog whistle.
Rushes famous Puff the Magic Negro. Please spare me the feigned indignation of being called out on the divisiveness of race baiting your party is guilty of.

Let me ask you. The Billionaires are putting up about a Billion Bucks to get rid of Obama. Do you really think they care about his social programs? No they don’t they are investing a Billion in the hopes the GOP will control the Government and reward them big time. The crap you spew about Obama means absolutely nothing to them. It gets them votes, you and the rest of the 80% of Americans are just votes and future cheap labor. Your missing the forest for the trees. The Corporatists are thrilled to have Romney in the White House. He is one of them, he knows what they want, and he will bust a hump getting it for them.

Another question. Do you count your money in 20s, 10s, 5s, 1s and Change? If so, you mean absolutely nothing to Romney and the 1%. They have no idea of who you are, how you live, and what you think. They have fed you your beliefs. You have been doing all of the grunt work demonizing Obama. And if your reward is getting rid of Obama you been had cheap. That’s not going to change the situation in America. These guys you praise, they are out to loot the Country of every last dime. And you are ready to help them. Your legacy to your grand kids? Low wages, long hours, no benefits, there will be no Unions allowed to help them fight for a fair wage. You get what you’re given. So you can talk all you want about a level playing field. Those days are going to be over. That is not the intent of R&R. They belong to the Giant Money, not you. Your out in the cold my friend.

I watched the GOP Convention. And I am still trying to figure out what the objective was behind the up from nothing stories being told by people who have gradually changed the playing field to eliminate that very possibility. The unemployed for instance, am I being convinced they all quit their jobs? Walmart. A great example of one Man’s success. It is thanks to the protection of the other up form nowhere GOPers. That Walmart can pay low wages, no benefits, can hand out Food Stamp application to part time workers, and direct people to Medicaid. May I asked if you received a public or private primary and secondary education. If one of those holds for you. You got an education compliments of your parents or the Government. That job yu may have had or still have, was given to yu by the employer in exchange for a salary. The freedom to succeed and fail is not a balanced scale. Never has been.
It has nothing to do with Billionaire Buddies. It’s what the Billionaire Buddies are supporting. In the case of the GOP the Billionaire Buddies bought Tax Cuts and deregulation from the GOP. Who are still intent on giving more cuts and deregulation.
What did the country get in return for this largesse? The crash of 2008. Massive unemployment, oh wait, I’m Sorry, massive amounts of people quitting their jobs.
And now yu offer R&R. Two Supply Side Economic Disciples. They want a Mulligan for Trickle Down. It Failed why go there again. You point, well indoctrinated by the Right, that everyone is America should have a right to determine their futures, is just Racism behind a piece of fuzzy glass. And if your honest with yourself, you would admit that the people being spoken of are the Poor. Welfare recipients. And we all know they are all Negroes. They can’t be talking about the hard working people who have their shoulder to the wheel, day after day, and the wheel is not budging. If anything it is going backwards. Lower wages, longer hours, fewer benefits. Which is the case with the lucky Americans with jobs. The onion has many layers. Try peeling a little deeper. It’s the policies each sides Billionaires are prepared to support. The GOP has brought you supply side/trickle down. Trickle down has a gravity problem. It only trickles up. We were left with high unemployment and rising Poverty. And this is what you are suggesting we try again. Those up form the bottom stories told by the speakers of the GOP, were not experienced by them, they were the benefactors of someone else’s hard work. Back in the days when Unions got fair wages, over time pay, weekends off, 8 hour days, 5 day weeks. Now we are being offered Right to Work. Take it or leave it wages and hours. The Middle Class is in decline. Higher education is becoming less affordable for the children of the Working Class. R&R want to get rid of Pell Grants. And all you want is the freedom to succeed or fail. Well failing has become a cinch. It’s all around use. Look at the Millions who quit their good paying jobs to take less paying ones. There’s your freedom. Your working against you own best interests. Can’t stare people out of Poverty. You’re asking for a disastrous future for all America. If convincing you we don’t need help to get through life, well good luck with that outlook. Try swimming across the river next time, don’t use the bridge you didn’t build.

If you are working there because you made a decision to quit school, have a baby without a father, do drugs, or not train for anything else, then you get what they offer.
In other words if you are poor, it’s your fault and this is all you deserve. man did you read this screed before you hit post? This is one of those classic veiled GOP racist comments the Right have become great at. You should be ashamed of your self by coming up with such a random silly observation of how you see poverty. The war against the Poor has joined the one against women. The Army of hate is growing by leaps and bounds. It’s hard to believe that an American adult is capable of writing something so ignorant as this.

Oh my, an expert on why Unions now are of no use, the Bosses wanted more. So you are just fine with the future of low wages, longer hours and no benefits. You know nothing about Unions. My Sister and Nephew are lawyers for AFSCME and The Teamsters. If you think the Middle Class just popped up and came to be. You really are without a clue. A way of life in America, the ladder up has been slowly shortened, and you just sit by and tell me with your great intellectual knowledge as to how that happened and it had nothing to so with the employers able to get the Government to remove regulations so lower wages are acceptable, no benefits or pensions, all for a bigger bottom line. Why is it, that you think, the money makers have no responsibility to the Country other than pay a few bucks in taxes and reap the benefit of the sweat of the American Workers brow with out sharing the opportunity with them to climb up the ladder of success.. You have wiped out an entire portion of American History because it runs counter to the goals of the Party you support. And what is your reward for supporting this Party? A future of take it or leave it (as you put it) low wage jobs, no overtime pay, no weekends off, no paid vacations, no health benefits, no pension. The very foundation the Middle Class (A uniquely America thing) was built on. A nation of working poor, with a carrot on a stick “Arbeit macht frei” Work will set you free.

This has got to be the all time lowest the GOP has stooped to. Deny the American Dream, make it harder, then blame the people who can not achieve it for their own failure. People in America , who educated themselves, worked hard, earned a liveable wage, bought a house raised their kids sent their kids to college, now here they are in an Ameirca which has no need for them. Their life style in danger of evaporating. And we have a GOP Convention that essentially blames them for their own hard luck. Why because they are looking for help to reinvigorate the America of Old when the Middle Class thrived. What an economic recovery plan. Oh, by the way, while we are at it. Let’s cut taxes on the wealthy job creators who have no intention of creating those old well paying jobs. There’s the ticket. Instant recovery. Don’t forget though, we have to get rid of Medicare, Medicaid and Welfare. We are going to need people who are willing to work for nothing. The Middle Class won’t take those jobs, so we will need cheap labor. Like those old dreaming working Class they will be willing to work low paying jobs for longer hours. As long as we keep telling them they too, can be rich someday some day. Yeah, right? Suckers.

If that is so, why the necessity to have the Unions fight for a liveable wage, weekends off, paid Holidays, the end of Child labor, paid vacation, pension funds, health benefits. Why did the Unions waste all that time to help create a prior non existing new class of American workers. The Middle Class, the new Class of people who spawned a whole new generation of well educate, imaginative people who contributed to making America the envy of the World. A brand new class of Citizen. The Middle Class a true American unique idea. The back bone of our Nation, the stop gap against a government that wanted to remove or deny other citizens chances of get a step up the ladder of success. Now that the Middle Class in in decline your type of thinking is becoming the norm. Everything is the fault of the under class, women, Liberal’s, Obama, welfare, Medicare, SS.

The projections also include the reduction of revenue the US is experiencing from the tax cuts to those who once contributed a lot more to the success of America. Funny how they are not suffering from the 2008 Crash. The Stock market since Obama took office went from, 6000 to 13,000. Corporate profits have gone up, we have more Billionaires than ever, and we are in a slow economy. An economy enjoyed by the perpetrators of the Crash. And the GOP thinks they deserve an other tax cut as a reward.. Why does history indicate unemployment is lower when the top tax rates are higher. We don’t have just a deficit problem, we have a revenue problem. It there were more people working more would be going into the SS trust fund.

You can eliminate all the entitlement programs, it will not be enough if you are cutting revenues at the same time. You are being had by this BS line of thinking. You come cheap, if this is all it takes for the GOP to get your vote. Blaming the under class for the problems of the Country is ironic when you are part of the underclass yourself. You don’t actually believe the 1%,of which Romney is a part of, cares about you.
You have 2 things they want, your vote (which loses its value on Nov.6th) and your willingness to work for lower wages, no benefits and no healthcare. You’re cheap labor to Mitt and friends. Why do you think they only offer solutions which punish Americans. They have gone inside of your head to that area of discontent and convinced you that Welfare, Medicare and Obama are the sole causes of your discontent. They don’t give a rats butt about those issues. They prove it by not telling you what their solutions are other than cuts on programs for people they have convinced you to dislike. And tax cuts for the winners of the 2008 Crash.

You conveniently side step the effect reforms have on a society at large. Unions fought for a liveable wage, no child labor, weekends off, 8 hour days, a 5 day work week, benefits, paid vacations, health benefits, pensions. All of these things became standard practices for Union and Non Union businesses. To answer that question of Non Union Middle Class workers. The Unions set a new standard adopted by industries and businesses. Today we have 24/7 businesses. 7 day work weeks, no overtime, no benefits, no pensions. Walmart hands out food stamp applications to their part time employees, Government subsidies for Walmart. The wages are going down the hours are going up. That is not a formula to sustain the Middle Class in to the years to come. You guys come up with a strategy to blame some one to get your agenda across. Because nearly half the population is paying nothing. What a sack of BS. Every wage owner in America pays taxes. Payroll tax, sales tax, state income tax, gasoline tax. That canard of half paying no taxes is so disingenuous it’s laughable. If you guys spent half the time you do laying blame, on doing something constructive you would be surprised how much more love you could garner for the American public.
Constantly looking for whom to blame. It’s the Poor, Women, Teachers, Union, Entitlements, the Poor, Welfare, caring Liberals, FDR, regulations, Planned Parenthood, the Poor, Liberals, Atheists, Socialists, Jews, Negroes, Immigrants. The lit is endless. Never a finger pointing back at yourselves. The GOP the blameless Party of America, They only true Patriots. Bah!!!

I am just a tad annoyed with the broad statement that almost half of Americans pay no taxes. Even if you were to be specific and say federal income tax, but that part is generally left out of this point of view when expressed. I have yet to completely understand the point of the 1/2 don’t pay statement. can you illuminate me on why that statement is used, and what point it is intended to make?

So it’s not about not paying federal income tax it’s having someone else pay it for you. Why don’t you guys just simplify your message. You hate people who have not been as successful as yourselves and you are tired of having to carry them any longer.

I get it. You don’t like the idea that someone is getting something for nothing. So the payroll tax is not a tax. But I think your talking about or alluding to those lazy ass Negroes on Welfare, food stamps and Medicaid. Just admit it. Your party opened a Pandora’s box of contempt toward the less fortunate knowing that the presumption is that all welfare and food stamp recipients are lazy ass Negroes. It’s a tactic which has worked remarkably well with the Right’s base, but not so much with the broader society. You guys are coming off like a bunch of racists. Lower taxes for the rich, and then cut all programs which benefit the less fortunate, but wait that doesn’t sound right, you may have thought at some point in your life, but, don’t forget who those less fortunate are, non-tax paying, welfare, food stamp, medicaid using lazy ass Negroes. Ah, that’s right, forgot about that. Yes, I see now. Cutting programs for the less fortunate is not such a bad idea now.

This constant building of a case against the Poor and less fortunate has taken on an aura of sadness, in the delight people like your self get out of making your point as you have tried in this recent comment. It’s all GOP speech, a rationale and cover up of the real issue. Negroes. People of color. The “lazy; get a job” schtick, is loud and clear in it’s camouflaged intent.

I suspect you will get upset with this comment of mine, and you will blame me for playing the race card, because you never mentioned Negroes at all. It’s called subtext and the subtext of the Right’s position on programs for the less fortunate is quite clear.
Those damn lazy welfare queens, and lazy ass Negro men and their brood of children.
Sucking on the teat of tax payer money. Damn them for being Poor. Your solution? Starve them out of Poverty. Very fitting solution for contemptuous, self loathing people to have.

You’re on the wrong side of the issues and you support a Party that has historically been on the wrong side of issues. You need to stand back and look at the world view you have been encouraged to have. It’s full of anger, contempt, negativity, pessimism, low self esteem, and at times hatred. It can’t possibly be a happy way of going through the day convinced you are right in blaming everyone else for your frame of mind.

You really do need to stand back and study your belief system. I am not suggesting mine is right for you. I just think you need to stand back and ask yourself why there is so much anger and contempt in your world view. Be honest with yourself and those you are trying to convince; let it out in your own words not GOP speak. I think you will feel better, and no one will be offended if it’s not a nice opinion. You have a right to speak your mind. As a Liberal am not under an constriction to say what I want about the Right and my dislike for their social issues positions. I don’t concern my self with offending anyone. You shouldn’t either. I’d love to hear how you talk when your with your like minded friends. I doubt is is so nicely spelled out as your unconvincing comment I am responding to.

Don’t take it so personally. I am only asking why the sub text of the GOP anti-social safety net always alludes to a subgroup in the United States. I have a neighbor who shares the sentiment of the GOP posture on Welfare, Food Stamps and Medicaid. It’s all one big hand out to him. Lazy ass “Ns” milking the system. The very nature of the object in the line of fire of the GOP and the cuts they intend to make is not lost for one second on my neighbor. He totally understands the thrust of the anti social safety net issue being put forth by the Right. He gets it completely. Not be cause he is an overt racists, but because the dog whistle and the red meat do not escape his views on the socio-economic position of the GOP. It surprises me that the subtlety is lost on you. The signals that are oh so clear to my neighbor. I asked him what they were talking about. Without hesitation, the “Ns.” Reagan’s Welfare Queen, Gingrich’s Food Stamp President. None of it got by him or was misunderstood as some political point of view. He got it. “It’s those f**king “Ns.” We have been carrying them for way too long.”

Now I have to admit, not everyone is as honest as my neighbor, but I can not believe that the people on the right are that naive, that the sub text of these GOP remarks are completely lost on them. For get about race for a minute. Look at is as a cultural war. The “haves” are pissed off at having to carry the have nots. And the notion of the “have nots” as lazy ass people who are just gaming the system. That is less Racist in content, but no less biased and bigoted. It is using a cultural under tow to advance a political position. So you have to forgive people who have a sensitivity to race as seeing it essentially as a Racist campaign against the less fortunate. It is the cross liberals have chosen to bear. A responsibility for the unfortunate among us. Are there scammers? Yes, but the GOP wants to throw the baby out with the bath water. Makes no sense that an American would suggest such a thing. Hits a nerve with Liberals. The rhetoric which follows or precedes the comments from the right, make for an easy target for Racist complaints by the Left.

The Haves and the Have Nots goes back to feudal days. It’s an age old narrative when a small group of people control the mass of the wealth. Never works out in the end, the peasants, even those who agreed with the benevolent Lords joined in to bring down the oppressors.
So if the populace had more money they could buy more goods and services. ANd when they don’t have money no consumption. Well, seems we need a jobs bill or a jobs stimulus.

The Democrats don;t want people getting m,ore goodies, why do that, why say something you made up to be witty and cleaver and present it a s fact. Why do you do that? The GOP has the army of people who vote against their own interests,such as yourself. Your an apologist for a Party that has no sense of where the right place to stand is. They historically have been on the wrong side of every issue. Always, if I may repeat my self. I’d be happy to be proven wrong.

It is not hard to condemn a group of people who have lost their way. Reduce your revenue, then hope the beneficiaries of the cuts do the right thing, how naive is that thinking. Where are the guarantees the Job Creators will create jobs, there are no guarantees available, the GOP would never think of telling the wealthy what to do with their money. Hedge funds here comes an oil tanker full of cash ready to be invested in a get rich quick scam. Job Creation? What risk my money on the underclass. We haven’t raised wages since the 70s, why start now. Corporate profits are as historic levels why invest in Jobs? The Dow is at 13,000 (damn that Obama) why waste our money on Job Creation. We’re doing great by doing nothing. What fool would risk his money on Job Creation when they can turn their money in to more money through hedge funds and other barely legal scams. The Job Creator nonsense is just that, nonsense.

A couple of further points, the Dow is a measure of gambling fever, not the economy. You are condemning millions of real job creators and dismissing them over the actions of a few. And the reason corporations are not expanding is simple. They are afraid of the President’s policies based on his actions and rhetoric. It is easy enough to expand when the time is right, but difficult to contract built up infrastructure when things go sour. The business climate looks really iffy to most of us, so we’ll save the money until it quits raining.

It looks to me like you are missing the right’s message. The message I hear from the right, is that they do want to address the root of poverty. That is a lack of jobs, poor quality of education, and programs that encourage dependency instead of programs to reduce it.
I don’t agree that people on the right are less empathetic. Survey after survey have shown that they give more to charity and involve themselves personally more than those on the left, who seem to prefer the less hands-on approach by supporting more government programs.
The difference between the left and right seems to fall back to the old proverb: the left would rather toss a hungry man a fish, the right would rather teach him to fish.
I also know that the poor do bear some responsibility for staying poor. I was there. There are still families in my old neighborhood that are still there, 60 years later. We all had the same advantages (or disadvantages, if you like). Some of us decided it was not where we wanted to be. Every one of that group made it out. Those that thought it couldn’t done, or that it was too hard, or thought they simply couldn’t buck the system, are still there.

Re: food stamps. In Jan 2008, there were 27.7 million receiving monthly food stamps. Now there are nearly 47 million receiving monthly food stamps and the government is running advertising encouraging people to sign up. There is no way that is not a clear attempt to create dependency. “toss them a fish”

There have been calls to eliminate the Dept. of Education and the Dept. of Energy, simply because, for the money they consume, they provide little or no benefit.
As usual, you are misstating the Republican position. The Republicans want a school system that works. They want teachers to live by the same standards that all other employees face. Do the job or find a new profession. Given the money we have thrown at education, there is absolutely no reason why our kids can’t read, write, do arithmetic, know history, understand civics or reason. It wasn’t always this way. Home schooled kids don’t have all the resources available to kids in public schools, yet are infinitely better educated.

Government should not be in the business of empathy. That is our job. I shouldn’t have to explain why we should be afraid of a government feigning empathy, but if you need it, I will.

My childhood neighborhood was the poorest in town with all of us living in or near poverty, day to day. The poor bear the responsibility of staying poor. Unless you are born with a severe impediment, have a debilitating accident or incur a truly severe medical condition, there is no, I repeat, NO, reason to stay in poverty. This country was built by immigrants that arrived with maybe a few clothes and very little, if any, money. If they used the excuses in play today, all of us would still be poor, living in poverty, the kind of poverty seen in the third world, not here.

I’ll spare you the fish story when you recognize that is exactly what is going on in our country. It is ok to help feed someone while you teaching them to fish, but if all you are doing is handing out fish, which is all we are doing today, then you have enslaved them.

The world is not simple, but unfortunately, you can’t get through to people who haven’t been educated. Romney posted a 52 point plan to regain the economy on his web site. According to the ‘experts’, that’s 49 points more that the average American can understand or pay attention to. Ryan put forth a plan proposing a way to save Medicare. Instead of reading it or discussing its merit or shortcomings, it was simply demonized. And demonized by those who hadn’t taken the time to read or understand it, or didn’t want people like you to even consider thinking about it. It is exactly why people are voting for or against bumper sticker slogans, not real people.

If all that sounds mean, selfish and totally lacking in compassion, then you aren’t really paying attention. Which is more compassionate, enslaving with entitlements or promoting self-reliance? The President makes the argument: ‘We are all in this together’ versus ‘You’re on your own”. Actually, it is not an either/or. Both are true and government should get out of the way and let us get on with it, understanding that there will never be equality in any aspect of life, but with an opportunity and the freedom to act, you can have a lot of control over the outcome.

The Dept of Energy was created in 1973 and tasked with lessening our dependence on foreign oil. Since it failed miserably at that task, instead of abolishing DoE, it was given additional duties, mainly running our national nuclear laboratories, and of all things, control of our nuclear weapons, which they loan to the Defense Dept. Other than serve as a paper pushing hub, everything they do could be handled in a far more direct manner.
The only thing useful that the Dept of Ed does is the distribution of financial aid. As with all government programs, it has created a nightmarish array of paperwork, formulas, rules and regulations mostly resulting in thwarting its mission. Everything else this department does is strictly boondoggle work.

The rest of your post is partisan rant containing 1% truth to 99% bull gas.

Yep, the oil company giants owning the GOP stopped the Dept of Energy from doing anything, especially just after it was created under Carter, and under the Bushes, who were both domestic oil people, Clinton and his Democrat Congress, and Obama and his Democrat Congress. But then, everybody knows that.
Pretty much the same people stopped the Dept. of Education too. But everybody knows that too. You are right, boondoggle might be too nice a word to describe the make-work assigned to the DoEd. But then I grew up in the days before cursing was allowed on the airwaves, so I didn’t get the habit.

Why Obama??? A man with absolutely no qualifications to be President, other than he was old enough. None of the real life experiences that the average man in the street would have. No understanding of American history because that is not taught in Indonesia or Hawaii. No record of accomplishment other than some titles that we weren’t allow to look behind. Raised by communist centric adults. A history of friendships with communists and radicals. Associations and dealings with the likes of Tony Rezko. Continuous rhetoric full of contradictions with an emphasis on ‘I’. And all that was before he was elected by people who had no idea who or what he really was. Since then, he has for four years confirmed our fears about his capabilities. Why Obama???

Obama is a likeable guy and I don’t dislike him, but I am not voting for someone just because they are likeable. I want the best qualified guy of our two choices. Obama continues to show, day in and day out, that he is not a leader and doesn’t learn from his mistakes. His Presidency is still all rhetoric and ‘I’.

That is a rant out of far left loon land. Won’t even try to discourse on something so idiotic.

You want reality? You started your rant with, ‘born with a silver spoon in his mouth’, which you clearly intended to imply was something bad. Romney wasn’t born dirt poor, but he wasn’t born fabulously rich either. If being born well-off is a disqualifier, then neither Franklin Roosevelt or John Kennedy could have been President. They were both far better off than the Romneys. One of our wealthiest Presidents was our first President, George Washington.

You then went on to demonize his history, which I might add what you wrote indicates you personally haven’t really investigated it. The rant then proceeded to demonize equity funding companies. Again, you know little to nothing about the industry in general, how it works, or Bain, in particular.

Above, you are pouring out a load of half-baked conclusions based on other demonizations you have heard or read, not based on real information.

If you don’t like being part of your ‘underclass’, change it. This is America and every single day people make that change, even in this economy. It won’t be the rich holding you back.

Do you honestly think for one minute that Obama cares about you any more than you think Romney does? You are a vote. The simple act of removing the requirement that work goes with welfare shouts loud and clear that Obama wants to buy votes. He wants and advertises for more people to get on food stamps. Why? He wants dependable voters. He hasn’t done a single thing to encourage self reliance. It is all about government will take care of you.

Why does the GOP have to work to sell its policies? It is hard to convince people getting stuff that was taken from other people to vote against that.

As I pointed out in another post, Romney was talking about the 47% eligible for the work force that are not paying income tax. Anyone still in school or retired would not be part of that. I think he was a little wrong, because I suspect a number of the 23 million unemployed right now, would really like a job and they might want it bad enough to vote for a person who can restart the economy rather than one who will continue to run it down.

I did not call Obama a socialist. I simply pointed out he was raised and mentored by communists, sought out communist leaning professors, sought out communist and radial friends and associated with some pretty unsavory people. He also appointed some of those to positions in his government. Fair or not, most people judge others by their associations.

I make no judgement on his citizenship since I don’t have any first hand knowledge of his birth. If Hawaii says he was born there, I accept it.

He is not one of us? We are the first Americans, Europeans, Jews, Africans, Orientals, Asians, Arabs, Persians, Indians, Polynesians and more. Negroes were a part of this country before there was a country, both free and slave.

Now that you mention it, virtually everyone coming from Harvard is pretty elitist and mostly to the far left of center. Maybe Bill O’Reilly is the exception as far as being left of center.

Re: Medicare. What’s to discuss. He wants to cut 750 Billion from Medicare and 642 Billion form Medicaid leaving 11 Million people without health care.
His corner stone: Vouchers, where in Gods name is an 80 year old with preexisting conditions and a topped out limit going to get Insurance with a piece of worthless paper. Voucher, that’s a plan? There’s no debate here when you look at the juvenile construct of his plan’s foundation. Unworkable, will cost us more, will increase the debt. There, your discussion has been had. And Ryan’s plan is a College Freshman’s Ayn Rand inspired up with the wealthy down with the losers essay with no value in the real world.

That Ryan’s medicare plan is a disaster. Wow, we finally agree on something.

You still sound doubtful. A lot of “ifs” in your comment. If a frog had wings it could fly. Wishful thinking. A sure sign of doubt.

Ok, you used an extremely board brush to try to tar the GOP, who actually had nothing to do with your example, since it was in sunny, Democrat, California. How about I use the same brush using my company as the example. As I’ve pointed out before, I’m a fiscal conservative, so I generally vote GOP candidates. So count me as GOP.

My primary company has been in existence for over 40 years. We pay well above average salaries to the best qualified people we can find. After one year, you get a two week paid vacation. After five, a three week paid vacation. We provide for medical coverage for the employee and their family. That includes dental. You are entitled to a week of paid sick leave. After one year of service, you are entitled to participate in our retirement plan. Before we went over 100 employees, it was SARSEP where we contributed an amount equal to 15% of the employee’s salary to their IRA. Now it is done with a 401k. Turnover has always been extremely low. The staff is very multi-cultural, with women, black Americans and hispanics in management positions. We have no debt. We do check to be sure you are in country legally. We added to our staff by 25% last year. We work 40 hr/ 5 day weeks. The need for overtime is rare. Staff members are involved in their communities. We are not union.

So, obviously, all GOP lead companies are good for America, right?

At a point in America’s history, unions made sense. They could make sense again, but a simple look at what the teachers union in Chicago is doing and what they tried to do in Wisconsin is evidence enough that their demands are a bridge too far.
How many companies in this country has union intransigence put out of business or chased their jobs overseas? Orders of magnitude more than Bain Capital.

You point a lot at Walmart. They are simply the latest morph of the department store. And they will be displaced by some other morph in the future. It is probably already happening with the internet. If internet shopping is the future, then there will no longer be even a Walmart to employ those who didn’t get an education.

Again, you are missing the big picture the GOP is trying to tell you. It is unlikely that old jobs will come back. We must create new kinds of businesses. We must have a well educated work force. If you now do the kind of work that can be automated, you need to train as fast as possible for a new profession. If you insist on avoiding education, you will be poor.

I will again point you back to the Obama speech I quoted. He didn’t say a word about raising revenues. He said it would be painful, but we had to cut spending. He was right, but he didn’t follow up. It is not a question of ‘if’ on cutting spending, it is a question of ‘when’. The impact now will be a lot less than it will be when it is ruthlessly forced. We have some ability to manage the impact now, but when the roof finally caves in, we will be out of options for Medicare, Social Security, defense, welfare, infrastructure spending and borrowing.

Increasing revenues to the government depend on business. If business is healthy and expanding, jobs will return. With the return of jobs will be increased revenue to the government. It won’t happen under any other circumstances. You’ve heard it before and, Lord knows there are plenty who visit this site that don’t believe it, but it is none-the-less true: you can’t tax your way to prosperity.

I read that as saying you want unions and you want to be in a union so that you won’t have to be responsible for your educational and career decisions. You want unions that can force businesses to pay the wages you want, instead on a wage that makes sense for the business. That hasn’t worked too well for the garment industry, the steel industry or the auto industry. You want a union that can force a railroad to continue to employ firemen long after the need for them was gone. You want unions to be able to require union labor for doing such highly complex things as plugging in an electrical plug for a company exhibiting at a NY convention. That kind of difficult work is easily worth the $50 or more. You want unions to insure that, even if you are totally incompetent, you can’t be fired.
You want unions so that people don’t have to really get paid what they are actually worth, because people who are worth something don’t need unions.

No child labor? That means I couldn’t have been selling papers on the street at age 10, picking in the orchards at 12, working in a feed mill at 15, washing windows at 17, which meant I wouldn’t have learned how to work.

8 hour days? I could count the number of 8 hour days I worked on one hand. Show me someone who says they work an 8 hour day and I’ll show you someone who really works more like 6 hours a day.

5 day week/weekends off. Pretty rare. More like 5 1/2 day weeks. For people who were building their own businesses, it was 7 day weeks and 12 hour or more days, with no vacations.

All the rest are nice for the employee and employers that compete for top quality employees will provide those things are part of their package. If you are completely interchangeable with anyone else, it is simply a cost the employer must pass on to customers. But if a company somewhere else doesn’t have to add some of those costs to their product, guess which company survives and which one doesn’t.

None of those things created the middle class. They simply made life more comfortable. They don’t create upward mobility. In fact, if you were to examine the lives of the people who rise in a corporation, you’ll find that they tend to skip a lot of that free time.

Learn about private equity companies.

If you like dependency…if you like unemployment (lots of time off)…if you really want to live in a country that can be threatened by other countries…if you really want a government regulating every aspect of your life so you don’t have to make decisions…if you really want everyone to live as one large lower class, by all means, keep voting Democrat, because that is exactly what they are working for, for you.

All this relates back to the ‘bridge too far’ view of the unions. I have never denied their role in helping workers get a fairer shake. But having reached that goal, union bosses could not become simply monitors insuring there was not a backward step, they had to continue pushing for more to justify their jobs and larger union dues. My father in his later years became President of his local for one reason. Too many journeymen were coming to town who didn’t have the skills of a good apprentice, and he didn’t want good local people put out of a job by lazy, incompetent journeymen who had a union card.

Just for grins, look up which party actually wrote the first GI bill.

Apparently we don’t need businesses to have a middle class, just government and unions. It that why Obama is trying kill business?

Sorry you feel that way about business owners. Whoever you worked for must not have treated you very well. There is a classic example, still in existence, of union vs non-union. For years, I flew around the U.S. frequently. I could always tell when I was on an airline with unions. The stews and flight people would always be gathered in the galley on a long flight, complaining about their conditions. The one airline, that I flew most often, always had happy people. They provided the best service and were proudest of their airline. It was, and is, Delta. To this day, except for the pilots, non-union. (I don’t know about the ground people since I didn’t have contact with them.)

Union people don’t work for their employers. They work for the union. And it shows. A good employer will take care of the employees, instilling pride in what they are accomplishing. Once a union takes hold, it is us and against them, and the company become a soulless shell.

Explain to me one more time how there can be a middle class without business?

The ‘hyperbole’ may be insensitive, but is basically true. And don’t be so hypocritical about the ‘us vs them’ game. That is the President’s game. Rich vs poor, war on women, war on latinos, racism, and more. Day in and day out, the President has been out there dividing one group against another. Romney makes one generally true comment and suddenly the guilty become incensed?! Give me a break!

Keep your healthy cases of wealth envy, denial and demonization, and vote for Obama. It has been working well for you so far and four more years of your current circumstance should make you really happy. Don’t know whether your grand kids will appreciate it, but if they are poor, under educated, and dependent on government, they probably won’t know the difference.

There are 2 Obama’s the real one and the one created by the Right. Jesus, they couldn’t even wait for the guy to sit down in the oval office. They had to have a private confab the night of Obama’s Inauguration, His Inauguration was attended by 1 million Americas. 1 Million 47%ers.

Later that night: Newt Gingrich, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor,and other leaders of the GOP and Teahadist Party, gathered for food and drinks so they could concoct a plan to overthrow a sitting President of the United State of America. Obama hadn’t even taken a wiz in the Oval Office bathroom, and they are conspiring to destroy his Presidency.

I saw an economy spiraling down ward. I saw a President who was handed the job. I saw an opposition with not an inkling of interest in helping. I saw the economy level off. We went from 750,000 per month job loses to 30 months of private sector job growth. With no help for the opposition, I saw the DOW drop to 6000 then rise to over 13,000. With out any help from the opposition. I watched Corporate profits hit near historical levels. With no help from the opposition.

I saw existing home sales rise 7.8% in August from July to an annualized rate of 4.82 million units, topping estimates of a 4.55-million unit rate and marking the fastest pace since May 2010 (Under Obama). Without the help of the opposition.

I watched a POTUS announce the death of one of Americas greatest enemies, OBL. And then I watched the opposition work hard to deny him any credit.

I read this: A striking statistic from Tuesday’s NBC/Wall Street Journal poll that a growing number of Americans believe the country is on the right track. And without the help of the Opposition.

If this was a sporting event it would look like this. GOP gives themselves points. Obama gets negative points. Obama scores a TD. Boo. He now has to kick off from the his own end zone. Kicks it out of the GOP end zone. Boo. He scores on a 100yard plus kick return. Boo. He makes a 70 yard field goal. Boo. He ultimately wins the game. GOP Boos and yells, He cheated.

As I look at all that I have listed. I’d say considering the lack of cooperation, and starting in his own end zone on every possession. I am looking at a hard working , persistent, hopeful human being. Looking nothing like the Obama the Right has created to appease the Obama haters.

This man has over come a mountain of resistance from the opposition and came through it standing and popular with the population of the Country he proudly serves.

And then I look at the opposition’s deliberate attempt, with the help of The Blame Stream Media, to ruin this man.

He is the man for the job for me and America. Not a bunch of disappointed, selfish, contemptible bullies who put Ideology before Country.

A lesser man would have quit. But, not Obama, he optimizes Grit.

The GOP deserves to be punished for their seditious behavior. And I believe they will.

I am part of the 47% and very proud of it. Fuck the Right and it’s careless lack of concern for all of the Citizens of the USA.

Montana my man, you’re on the wrong side of the street on this one.

That’s a pretty bold statement. There wouldn’t be? Once again you are looking to lay blame. Why is that position always the first the Right goes to. Blame. But first you must find a recipient of the bame that serves the political agenda of the Right.

Your suggesting the Party that brought down the Economy would have done a better job. When are Supply Siders going realize they are dieing from Trickle Down disease.

We would have had huge tax cuts for the Wealthy, further deregulation of the financial markets. Huge cuts in Medicare, Medicaid,, Privatization of Social Security, the abolishment of the EPA, Dept. of Education. And the miracle all Righties dream of the Poor would be miraculously absorbed into the Underclass. Unemployment would be at zero, unemployment insurance would have been eliminated, everyone would have been issued a set of bootstraps, a pat on the back, and a wish you well.

That’s straight our of Grimm’s Fairytales. With the GOP playing the Troll under the bridge. It’s so delusional, it scares me that it comes for intelligent people. What scars me is the social inequity that is attached to this Grand heartless Social Experiment.

What are yu going to do when yu find out that everyone is like you, that there are people who are genuinely incapable of pull up their own bootstraps. Poor houses, Jails,
some form of public banishment.

You do realize the Poor have been with us since the Stone Age. The unfortunate Neanderthal who could not learn how to fish and had to be given a fish.

The broadness in which the Right applies it’s World View is frightening. It’s right out of Orwell’s 1984. A one size fits all society. If I can do it so can you. Oh, you can’t walk because you have no legs, well do something about it, and get back to us.

I agree there is something that has to be done about the Poor, and 47% of the Country is not Poor, or unemployed, as Romney suggests. I happen to be part of that 47%, not via my choice of President, but by Medicare and Social Security. I would have no home with out them. I got to this point in life via my personal responsibility.

The manner in which the Right has chosen, so very well articulated by Romney, to sell this Social Engineering to eliminate the lower class and the Poor. It has contempt written all over it. And you wonder why people vote for the Democrats and why Obama will get 4 more years. My dislike for Profit Takers (not profit makers) is overwhelmingly topped by the perniciousness of the Right’s solution solving. It’s feudal in nature. I take it you don;t read much history about the Feudal Period. Back when the land belonged to the Wealthy, and the Peasants could farm it, it willing to give a huge share of the crop to the landowner. Modern version, Walmart, Inland ports. The value of the laborers time and physical effort it not considered as a valuable thing. The peasant s are a necessary inconvenience. They do all the hard work, they grow the food, do the shit jobs, and get barely enough to get by. That’s unfettered Capitalism.

ALL WEALTH BECOMES WEALTH FOR WEALTH’S SAKE.

TIME BELONGS TO THE CORPORATE WORLD. They decide how we use our time. Even out free time. They own all of the Media, the food supply, the energy supplie. privately controlled prisons, the health industry. Tell of anything they do not own or control. They own the government. All issues are geared towards their benefit. They control an enormous amount of the Wealth in the USA. These are not people working every day to gain success, they are beyond success. They are on to an other form of existence not known by anyone, accept they and their ilk. They are striving for power over everything, hoping for a society that does not resist them. They are getting close, and they want Obama out because he stands in their way.

Not one thing you are concerned about in all of the comments you have written are of any interest to them. You doing the grunt work of pursuing others to accept the servitude we are walking towards. An Oligarchic Government. Ruled by the “successful” and their massive wealth. Their main concern is to amass more wealth. Not riches. You a still don’t understand the difference between rich and wealthy. The rich are the underclass to the Wealthy. So imagine where we fit in. We don’t. Mitt Romney is not included. He is an empty suit sent out there by the Wealthy to get the combination and open the safe. Bill Bates, Warren Buffet, the Koch Brothers these are Wealthy People. Ramsey is a piker compared to them. What wealthy person would ever aspire to be the POTUS. A pathetic one.

Correction: What are you going to do when you find out, that NOT everyone is like you, that there are people who are genuinely incapable of pulling themselves up by their own bootstraps. Poor houses, Jails, some form of public banishment.

Bill Gates not Bates.

Tell me of something the Wealthy and the Corporations do not control?

“Our Christian tradition teaches that we are to treat the poor with dignity and to prioritize the poor in our policies as a society. At a time when millions are struggling financially, it is degrading to talk about the ‘dependency’ of people hurting in this economy, as Gov. Romney did recently.” — The Franciscan Action Network (FAN), a Catholic faith-based advocacy and civic engagement organization, strongly criticizing Mitt Romney’s recent ads and rhetoric regarding welfare programs and welfare recipients.

I would imagine, but I couldn’t say for sure, that this Christian tradition is similar between Mormons and Catholics. But the political agendas of Romney and Ryan — both of whom profess to be Mormon and Catholic, respectively — are not inspired by any of the teachings of Jesus Christ, as far as I can see.

It seems like Christianity only matters to far-right conservatives when they can use it as a weapon against a political enemy.

“The Mormon religion for which five generations of my ancestry have lived and sacrificed, the religion whose official mantra is “to take care of the poor and needy throughout the world.” My first impulse was to rent an airplane towing a banner: “Mitt Romney is Not the Face of Mormonism!” Gregory A. Prince, Ph.D. Member of the LDS.

Funny you should bring up Christian organizations, especially Catholics as an example, when you side with the President in forcing them to pay for birth control and abortion, which is against their doctrines.

Religious organizations have been providing help and support to people in need totally independent of government for centuries. No where that I remember, did Jesus ever say it was government’s responsibility. He put the responsibility where it belongs, with us.

Gregory Prince is not the face of Mormonism, either. He is not on the Council nor the President.

I really don’t care what Prince claims his credentials to be. I am not a Mormon and don’t agree with many of their beliefs, but my best friend in high school was a direct descendent of Brigham Young, many of my classmates were Mormon, my wife’s father was Mormon. So I know a little about Mormons first hand. People within the church are good and bad, exactly like every other institution or religion. But I will say that my experience is that Mormons, as a group, tend to have a pretty good moral compass.

You are convoluting the church argument exactly like Obama. It does require church run facilities to have the insurance that requires payment for abortion and birth control. Those facilities should be exempt.

The Constitution absolutely does not imply freedom from religion. It is designed to prevent a state religion and the freedom to exercise whatever religion a person chooses. But you are right about politicians trying to appear whatever they think people prefer. That aspect pretty well crosses party lines equally.

Remember when it was a big deal for Kennedy to President because he was Catholic?

I’ll presume you came by the 235,413 number of people making a $5 million honestly. However, the current ‘effective’ tax would be about 33% not 35%, that’s simple the top rate.

Wow! 4.12 TRILLION of ten years! Wait a minute. Didn’t Obama spend $6 TRILLION in 4 years? Even a 45% tax wouldn’t cover that.

The other numbers are conjecture.

Here’s thought. The 2012 Election is going to be just like 2008, according the National Memo. I guess that means if Obama wins, he’ll be inheriting a huge mess and by 2016, we’ll be even deeper in the sh….

82-85 Democrats controlled the House (where appropriations are created)
86-89 Democrats controlled the House, the last two years they also controlled
the Senate
90-93 Democrats controlled House and Senate
94-97 Republicans controlled both
98-01 Republicans controlled the House and Senate til 01, the Senate was tied.
02-05 Republicans controlled House, tied in 02, then Republicans
06-09 Democrats controlled both
10-13 Democrats controlled both for two years, Democrats control Senate,
Republicans House the last two.

See a pattern there?

So no fault of the Democrats that spending increased under their watch? Obviously, they just stood by and watched while the minority Republicans pushed through huge spending bills.
I’m just sorry there weren’t enough Republicans to block the ridiculous stuff that was passed the first two years. If they, we might well be into recovery already.

You skipped just a whole bunch of his story. You can make up your mythical image, but it won’t change who and what he really is.

What is your hangup on Negroes?

I heard Rush make his comment about Sandra Fluke. It was made in the context of what she pushing and not directed at her as a person. Of course, the left reversed the context because it fit a demonization narrative. The left can’t talk about the real truth.

Unfettered business behavior, if give to Business as you suggest, will be impossible to reign in once it gets rolling. Why with high unemployment and the lines around the block looking for work, care about the employees. What would motivate them to offer a living wage and benefits? There is no motivation for a profit taker to do anything to negatively effect their bottom line. Profit taking has been promoted by the GOP, it’s not the same as making a living from your business. The new model is wealth accumulation. Not the pride in running a successful business which employs people who in turn live good and happy lives. I live in a neighborhood, where just about every new College grad is going into the investment world. The opportunity for wealth is much better there, than starting your own business and wait how ever, who knows, long it will take to get that first Porsche.

Obama talks of cuts because they are necessary, when he talks about taxes on the top 10%, the next topic of discussion from the Right is Obama wants to raise YOUR taxes. Implying the 80% are having their taxes raised. It makes for a distorted view of the ideas of the President, based on a false premise. Yeah, I know the DEMs do the same thing. This tit for tat style of counter argument the Right uses is like; But Mommy, Billy took a cookie too, it wasn’t just me!

Also Obama talks cuts, not slashing, but measured cuts. His cuts are intended to be balanced by increased revenue. Taxes on the $250,000 and up crowed. I know, there are 40% of the country who pay no income tax, and why should the successful people pay for the losers. I have heard that canard as well. How anyone can support the people in this country who benefit the most from a society based on the privilege of wealth. The Wealthy are not royalty. The USA offered them the opportunity and laws to enhance their wealth, and retain more of it. And the GOP is prepared to reward them again. If hard work is so important to the Right, why do they insist on making it easy for the Wealthy and harder on the underclass. How much wealth do people need? $250,000 is a lot of dough. And if those who have it live beyond their means, why is that the concern of the public who are struggling to feed their kids. It’s the same as the lack of concern the Wealthy have for the working poor, and the underclass in general. Which way serves the greater good. A huge gated community or a wide open community. I’ll opt for returning to an America separated into the hard working people and the rich. Not that big of a divide. The opportunity to be rich was in reach. The new measurement of hardly working people and the obscenely wealthy is a chasm meant to be uncrossable. And the GOP wants to widen that chasm even more.

You can not be that thick. I am talking about Corporate America, the 1 tenth of 1 %, who call the shots for the GOP. That’s the bad guys of Wealth. The GOP caters to them as if they are Royalty.

Obama’s truck load of Dimes:
600,000 public employees let go. That’s a big chunk of change saved
Getting most of the troops out of Iraq. Another Chunk of Money we are not spending.
Tax cuts for the wealthy end at the end of this year. Big Revenue.

All of the working poor have been doing that for years. There will be more if wages like those paid by Walmart and Inland Ports become the norm. . And if the healthcare bill is repealed 11 million people lose their health care. People who you guys don’t particularly like any way. So who cares. Right?!

Wealth is not earned it’s grown. There’s a difference. Romney has never worked a day in his life. Private Equity is not work. If you think it is, then Robbing Banks should be considered work.

Millions were forced in to poverty by the Grand Crash of 2008. The idea is to try something other than what was at the core of the collapse. Tax Cuts and deregulating the financial market did not work.

And, I would like to remind you again of a terrible un-pleasantry for you. Inauguration Night 2009. A meeting to plan the over throw the POTUS.
Newt Gingrich, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor and a host of GOPers and Teahadists met to hatch a plan of obstructing Obama on everything he sends to Congress. So please consider that when you talk about getting things done for America. Like a jobs bill.

I don’t give a damn what party someone is with if they put Profit before people. And I mean the profit that sustains the Business and makes the owner Rich. It’s interesting that you never mention the contribution the employees make to the success of America. Your implication is the Wealthy Corporate folks are the sole reason for America’s Success. Everyone else should just consider themselves lucky. Of course they employ ten of thousands of Americans and would not hesitant to send those jobs, as many have, to foreign countries to maximize their bottom line.

Every person who uses their brains are not as unemotional as those who are preoccupied with wealth.

All wealth is not acquired through honesty and decency
Mitt Romney had to sit in an office, along with his asst. managers, and consider the fate of American lives (losing their jobs) to maximize profits for Bain and it’s investors. Historically this mind set does not succeed. The American and French Revolutions come to mind. Spartacus, The Union Strikes of the early 1900s. Unfettered Capitalism is a Feudal State in the making.

I have nothing against making money. I don’t like it at the expense of one’s fellow citizens. Corporations and GOPers are constantly fighting for lower taxes for the Wealthy. Why are they centered out as eserving and the underclass is not. The under class is currently about 80% of the Country.

Private Equity and Hedge Funds are not work. They are guys sitting in a Casino in Atlantic City playing with the House’s money. Where does that trickle down. It doesn’t. It’s wealth acquisition. Has no benefit to anyone except the gambler.

Why is there such a problem on the Right with Corporations considering the lives that are negatively affected by business decisions to make more money. The employees cannot be considered as non people and just a business expense. What if the men and women who fight and risk their lives to keep America safe, decided they were not interested in dying for Ameirca. Why are they held to a higher Patriotic standard than Corporations?

Walmart v Costco. Both very profitable companies. One is run with complete consideration for profit and not the employees. Costco is run to make a profit and does quite well, it has made Jim Sinegal a very wealthy man, but Costco pays living wages and provides benefits. Now you see why I get angry. Their is a way for Capitalism to work with out being ruthless. Does every last buck need to be squeezed out? Does the Government have to reward people who have already been amply rewarded by the USA’s Capitalist system.

Plus you keep cranking out the Party line. Helping people is less important than protecting those who have to live with a little less. It’s selfishness under writen by a distain for the less fortunate, because we all know evey one who recieves money fromthe GOvernment are leeches. Romney as much stated teh Right’s distain for the under class. How did he put it: My job is not to care about those people. My job is to make them more responsible to themselves.

I currently collect SS and use medicare. I am highly insulted that he has the brass to call me and millions like me as irresponsible leeches. I am one of the 47% who vote for Obama. The cats out of the bag. The GOP is a bigoted Party.
And your constant standing up for their elitist world view should step back and think about your fellow citizens and not the people who don’t give a rat’s butt abut you.

They would screw you so fast, if there was a buck in it.

You have this annoying habit. You insist on putting words in my mouth. I never suggested that companies lose money. I suggested in pursuit of profits it should not be at the expense of the people who worked hard to help build the business. Loyalty is a nasty word in the GOP world, I know. I see it all the time.

I have nothing against money or profit. I have a lot against it being the only valuable thing over and above one’s fellow human beings. The GOP has no problem with dispensing with ethics to make a profit. I, for one, don’t think it’s necessary

Management fucks up. First thing you do is fire the people not responsible for the fuck up. The Employees. Then bring in some high priced genius, he suggests you sell the company. Up steps Bain, they figure out where the maximum amount of money is, bankrupt the company. Bain drives away with a truck load. The employees limp away with nothing.

I still have not seen you step up for the employees. It’s always management.

47% who vote for Obama and the 47% who don’t pay income tax. Either way you slice it, he is still marginalizing human beings for political gain. Evil. How do you sit back in all good conscience and apologize for a man who obviously has zero interest in you and the 47% of the people who do not pay income tax. I would think you would be the first to step up for your fellow Americans and say they pay sales tax, payroll tax, state tax, gasoline tax. It sure hits home with a room full of Millionaires that there is 47% of the population who make no contribution whatsoever to the country they live in. That’s the implication. That’s what you hear. I hear something totally different. You don’t have to be a genius to read between those lines. Having lived among the working poor, I have an obligation , as strong as yours are to the rich, to stand up for hard working people who deserve a break. Romney doesn’t know Poor, he sees dead beats. He doesn’t know working poor. He sees dead beats. He doesn’t know elderly people. He sees old dead beats. These are some of the 47% who do not pay income tax. He may be one of them but we will never know.

The ‘financial collapse’ was the affordable housing bubble bursting. A bubble created by the Neighborhood Reinvestment Act and a certain congressman named Barney Frank who used it to force mortgage loans be given to people who couldn’t afford them and blocked Bush’s attempt to rein them in. There have been numerous times in our history when recessions or depressions have knocked down the middle class, but with the exception of the Great Depression, the middle class returned strong when the recession abated. This recession was officially over nearly three years ago and we should have been well on our way to recovery, except for policies of this President. If you keep throwing gas on a fire, it is not going to go out, and that is exactly what the President has done. By continuing to spread fear over the business community, by the promotion of 10′s of thousands of new regulations, by threats of more taxation, by massively increasing the federal debt, by printing more money with nothing backing it, by reducing interest rates to near zero, by making the production of domestic energy more difficult, by creating a whole new class of entitlements, and more, he has insured that our businesses will either hunker down or look elsewhere for opportunity. That means no job growth and no recovery and no middle class.

Obviously, you find the truth embarrassing. But it is the truth and it won’t change no matter how much it hurts you. What did Bush do to tank the economy? He had a Democrat congress and congress does the spending. Was it the financial guys who caused the damage? What were they selling? It was bundled bad mortgages.

I understand you think you have sentiment on your side. It is largely the result of our education system dropping to 22nd in the world in science, 27th in math and 33rd in reading.

Now, point out one example of a lie I have told you.

So, in your universe, there was no housing bubble that burst.

In your world, did George Bush try to stop the madness and was he rebuffed by Barney Frank and a Democrat congress, who continued to double down on coercing banks to loan to people who couldn’t pay it back? Or was it George Bush who overrode the Congress to keep the bad paper flowing?