By Axel Tonconogy

Virginia Attorney General Suggests Voter Fraud Helped Obama

November 27, 2012 6:47 pm Category: Memo Pad 164 Comments A+ / A-

File this one under “Republicans Who Don’t Understand Why They Lost The Election.”  Virginia attorney general and 2013 gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli has a reliable track record of opposing President Obama and, like other Republicans, climate science. In a radio interview with WMAL’s “Mornings on the Mall,” Cuccinelli unequivocally agreed with guest host Cheri Jacobus’ assertion that Obama “can’t win in a state where photo ID is required. So clearly there’s something going on out there.”

Cuccinelli sympathized with Jacobus’ thinly veiled accusations, responding,”your tone suggests you’re a little upset with me. You’re preaching to the choir. I’m with you completely.”

That “something” that Jacobus alludes to is voter fraud, a Republican scare tactic that featured prominently in the 2012 election, designed to curb Democratic voters, which resulted in nationwide initiatives to implement voter ID laws. Ultimately, states like Texas and Pennsylvania struck them down, citing the suspect motivations of Republican legislators and the potential for disenfranchising thousands of eligible, largely Democratic voters. On Tuesday, several former GOP leaders in Florida admitted that voter suppression was the primary reason the new laws were created—not to combat voter fraud.

During the radio broadcast, Jacobus claimed Obama had lost in every state where photo ID was required to vote—an interesting factoid, but one entirely devoid of truth. In fact, Obama won Michigan, Florida, Hawaii and New Hampshire, four states that have implemented voter ID laws.

Here’s the Nov.20 broadcast:

After the interview, Cuccinelli political spokesman Noah Well stepped in to correct the media’s interpretation of the attorney general’s statements, saying it was “silly” to suggest Cuccinelli doubted the legitimacy of Obama’s re-election, according to The Virginian-Pilot.

“There is no question that President Obama legitimately won re-election,” Wall told the Pilot. “Ken was simply talking about the fact that there were problems on election day which need to be addressed.”

The 2016 election is still four long years away, but one thing is certain: if the GOP continues to claim voter fraud cost them the election, without addressing the structural problems that vex their party, there is little reason to imagine a Republican takeover of the White House.

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  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_B6RROC4IUESHT322QS5VJVPYRM Lynda

    That man is an idiot. He has wasted tons of taxpayer money going after climate scientiest, so-called vote fraud and now this twaddle. Apparently the man has too much time and nothing to accomplish with it. Perhaps a little cheese is in order along with that constant whine. I hope the citizens of his state dump him as the earliest opportunity.

    • mikecoatl

      This neo-fascist pig has delusions of becoming governor. Priority number one for Democrats in Virginia must be to ensure that this does not happen.

      • http://www.facebook.com/bill45blue Bill Hartman

        wakeup Virginia I know you are smarter than that.

    • http://www.facebook.com/bill45blue Bill Hartman

      and this is the type of people who want to run are goverment (what a shame)

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/David-Brown/1607477309 David Brown

      Probably not. You see we keep telling people that marrying your sisters will lead to defective children but conservative don’t listen. Possibly because they are already defective. (wink)

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        Are you discussing the people who defined “daddy-uncle” as a new position in the family?

        Quoting Dave Chappelle: “This racism is killing me.” I love that guy!

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        Sell-out your nation, David, and live with what you create!

    • Sand_Cat

      Look at the bright side: most of the money he’s wasted so far came from the idiots who elected him, or whoever appointed him.

  • bpai99

    Conservatives appear only to support the concepts of democracy and free speech when those produce results of which conservatives approve. Comments like these, whose only purpose is to de-legitimize election results, weaken us as a nation. Cuccinelli’s comments are fundamentally un-American and he is a disgrace to his office and his country.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KOPKDFAUQPIIRAFI3HEXNMSHLQ Ed

      No! The Repubs do NOT support democracy. They want to have a country where “the better class rules”.

    • johninPCFL

      Well, and he was tasked with making sure Obama didn’t win VA. Since Obama won VA., Cuccinelli either failed to do his job, or was overwhelmed by Dark Forces.

      “Lets go with the Dark Forces argument.”

    • 324516

      I want and need yuor prayers because i live i V.a this isn,t the tip of the iceberg with ken he uised his office to a vote that forced wowem health centers toclosed dowmw these were clinic that provided aboprtions. he told the members who were voteing on this issue that if they didn,t pass it then the a.g office wuold not repersent them in court and this is the guy thats wants to be gov. no way and ice cube has a better change of getting out of hell hje,s down in the polls women, blacks (let be real he never had a chance here)LATINOS ,HELL EVEN SOME IN HIS OWN PARTY HAVE ENDORSED his dem opp. still he try

  • nobsartist

    And incest in virginia has helped the republiCON party.

    so what is his point?

  • JREX_TheRexReport

    Is comrade moderator fair minded, or left-wing loon?

    • mikecoatl

      People like you are exactly what’s killing the Republican party, which is the absolute best thing that can happen for the future peace and prosperity of our country. So please, keep up your baseless and ignorant red-baiting.

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        Long ago it was predicted that a time would come when people would no longer endure truth. We are at that time when evil is called good, and good is called evil. It just depends on which master you serve. It is obvious what you have chosen.

        • english_teacher

          It is equally obvious which master you have chosen. The people who can no longer endure the truth, however, are those who ignore the facts and rely solely on ideology or beliefs based on half-truths and distortions to inform their opinions, a trait that I see as being much more prevalent on the Republican side of the aisle.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            That’s a well though-out and deep comeback.

        • WhutHeSaid

          Let’s keep the nutty hyperbole confined to your trailer park, shall we? We heard enough wacky talk for 2012 from the vile and despicable Tea Bigots. Hmm … btw, do you happen to wear silly hats?

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            You fight me, you fight the whole trailer park! How bigoted you are to make fun of those who live in trailer parks. How very insensitive!

            Come to think about, get used to the idea of living in a trailer. Under Obama II, it may be all you ever be able to afford, if even that much! You voted for him!

          • WhutHeSaid

            I’m not particularly worried about fighting trailer park ‘heroes’ because they tend to forget what they were fighting about after the third beer, whereupon the local beer-fart contest becomes the primary concern.

            I understand that you are sore from getting your ass spanked by a black man. Please feel free to have a good cry about it.

            Now that we have THAT out of the way, let me leave you with these parting words of comfort:

            Obama is your leader.
            He will be your leader for 4 more years.
            and…

            He’ll be black the WHOLE TIME!!

            (hee-hee!)

            Have a nice day.

        • rothgar

          You are quoting the Bible correctly but I suspect you’ve got the sins all wrong.

          Its’ not the Black guy in the White House its Obama derangement (hatred) syndrome that’s the sin.

          It’s not the existance of legal abortion that is the sin it is the Cult of Fetal Personhood (aka the “”Right to Life Movement”) that is the sin. This one is a two-fer. Not only are these cultists raising for worship possibly the worst idol of all time (humanity/human life) they are denying the saving sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

          It’s not the idea that we’d tax the rich that is the sin its’ the idea that we’d collectively let the poor suffer instead of using our collective resources to mitigate their problems (as we are directed to do in Matt 26) that is the true sin. In a democracy we are responsible for what the Government. We the People – We are the Government. If you don’t feel annoyed by Ronald Reagan comments about the government what pride do you have?

          Its’ not that we’ve been attacked that is the sin, its that we would undertake so much control of other peoples that our actions would instigate such hatred that is the sin.

          Its’ not redistribution that’s a sin (see concept of the Year of Jubilee in God’s Law) its’ the Megachurch promoted greed that is the sin.

          It’s not giving all citizens the same civil rights regardless of their preferred sexual partners that is the sin (see the writings of the probable closet queen Paul about how all people are equal in the sight of God) it is the idea that people claiming to be Jesus Christ’s followers would hate. Calling same sex attractions a choice denies the wiring job that God did in their creation.

          Imagine what happens to these haters when they get to meet their “LORD” and his partner!! Gonna to be a fun five minutes. This year the Anglican Church’s Easter message delved into the possibility that Jesus was a Gay Man by modern reckoning. And his partner would have been John! The disciple that Jesus loved. Hmm!

          So I say you’d best check that beam in your eye before attacking the mote in mine.

          BTW: Doesn’t the Bible say Pride goeth before the fall
          Can anyone say
          — AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Is perverse still in the dictionary?

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            rothgar, I wasn’t quoting the Bible correctly, and reading your post, I can see why you didn’t know that. I know that it may make you feel better to wish to project onto others what you do. Regardless of the careless way in which you allude to Christians, and the Lord Jesus as homosexual, it doesn’t pass muster. Read this (it is an actual quote from the Bible):

            Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10, NIV)

            We also know that law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious; for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, for adulterers and perverts, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me. (1 Timothy 1:9-11, NIV)

            Imagine all of that from the Apostle Paul. What did you call him — “closet queen.”?

            Now in fairness, there is no precise consensus on the translation of the hot-button terms in this passage. Look at some of the alternatives:

            Some translations translate malakos and arsenokoites as one word or phrase, such as “men who practise homosexuality” (English Standard Version), “homosexual perverts” (Good News Bible), or “sexual perverts” (Revised English Bible, Revised Standard Version (2nd Edition)).

            Now that we have cleared that up, let me tell you that Christians do not hate you!!!!!! We are NOT in the hate business.

          • rothgar

            Interesting Sexuality was not the major thrust of my recomposition of modern sins. Hate, greed, exploitation, idolatry were what I was getting at in this process.

            I see from your reliance on legalism that you seem to have missed the point. If you start from any point other than loving all people enough that you don’t see differences in my humble opinion you are missing the point of what Christ was trying to teach. We are to start by accepting and loving all people and helping them as needed; their sins are between them and God! For some it is sex for others chocolate for others idolatry for others staying up too late and driving too fast.

            However, when I read Romans, Acts, and a couple other Pauline letters my personal Gaydar went off like crazy. Also, I note that some of our most virulent homophobes have been found “infragrante delicto” with people of the same sex.

            BTW: You are right Christians love me including my wife for you see although would defend to the death the rights of my gay brothers and sisters I am at the straight end of the spectrum. I have probably spent more time in front of a baptist congregation than most people who are not choir lifers or pastors: I am a praise musician. Also, I was asked to become a deacon of the Southern Baptist Church I am a member of on at least 2 occasions. On any given Sunday could easily be on the dais if I wanted to be.

            Since it is obvious that God did none of his creating in binary (yes/no only) I expect that when we learn the real answers in the afterlife we will find that sexuality is a spectrum but love is the key. This was reinforced by a very conservative former colleague who told me that everyone has same-sex temptations and we must resist. I didn’t have the heart to object.

            I ought to go to bed ASAP so my exhaustion is not a counter to my attempts to make love to my wife in the morning even after 28 years morning is our time.

            Cheers.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            You have an intellectual faith. Have you ever heard the term “missing heaven by 18″ ?

            What you demonstrate is essentially that what is described “even the devils believe and they tremble…” If you moved your belief from your head (where it is not bearing fruit) to your heart, your whole life would change.

            Intellectual faith is NOT saving faith, and Christians know that nothing perverse was in the life of Jesus or the disciples, or true Christians of any century. It seems that you are on a slippery slope, not the solid rock.

          • rothgar

            If that means I get to be a greedy self-righteous Mega-church right winger thank you but I’ll pass. I’ll stick to the teaching of our Lord thank you very much. This is why I carry change specifically to give to the needy and spend as much time as I can serving.

            Until you can prove that any of my hypothetical reversed sins are NOT valid by citing chapter and verse, I’ll stick with my impression of Christ teaching can be best summarized by “the meek shall inherit the Earth.”

            I am looking for you to find chapter and verse where Christ is was OK to hate anyone. Or where he ever failed to talk to someone because of their past or position. He was very critical of the Hebrew leadership for their hypocrisy but never condemned others. Oh, by the way, I’d like you to point out where he said it was okay-dokey with him for his followers to be as greedy as possible and judge others. I could use this one since I am always scrounging for change to park because I give so much change away to those in need.

            Side Note:
            Since the Evangelical movement have gotten into right wing politics and away from social outreach and justice they’ve been winning on the political front and losing badly on the Great Commission. Since 1991 the number of people claiming no faith has quintupled. I think there is a reason for this and that summary of reversed sins may be closer to the root of the problem than Right wingers would ever like to admit.

            You know I’d be careful about judging people for as Christ said in Matt 7:1 Judge not lest ye be judged. So far you’ve missed twice on me.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            No man who knows him would ever refer to Him as you have. You do obviously know about Him, however. Your references to the characters in the Book are evidence only of your own delusion. Nothing perverse is there.

            What man does not sniff the milk before drinking to see if it is good or bad? It is common sense, not judgmentalism. However, your first post demonstrates that you see perversity, and merely reflects what is in you. 15 To the pure, all things are pure, but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and their consciences are defiled. 16 They profess to know God, but they deny him by their works. They are detestable, disobedient, unfit for any good work. Titus 1: 5-16.

          • rothgar

            So you are telling me that the Anglican Church doesn’t know the Lord? Hmm!!

            Apparently it was the 2012 Easter Epistle from the Anglican Church where the issue of Christ’s orientation was raised. It really wouldn’t matter to me since some of the most spiritually aware folks I have ever met were gay. However, for those hung up about sexuality, I guess denying the possibility that the “phrase the disciple Jesus loved” would have meant more than is commonly accepted would be of paramount importance.

            I rather be hung up about greed, and the exploitation of the disadvantaged for those are things that the Lord clearly railed against. Sexuality not so much. “All are equal in the sight of god whether slave or free …”

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            There is true faith, and false. It seems most obvious that the Bible is not your absolute authority. The N.T. is NOT a social gospel. It is not a suggestion. It is divine, and alive. However, Christians through the ages have NOT doubted the authority, or the necessity of obedience as the measure of their faith.

            You owe it to your pastor to reveal the perverse thinking you have espoused in this blog. This is not the thinking of the denomination you say you are a member of. If the pastor knew what you think, he might explain the difference between where you are and the position of the church on being born again. It seems that you are not.

            This is not a harsh criticism. It is honest, and if you truly represent yourself as here described, you are way out of tune with the beliefs of scripture, and Baptist doctrine.

          • rothgar

            I am sorry if I’ve blown your delusions with the text of the bible. I have done very little but cite the bible and you insist that your view of the text is the only correct view. The words are the same but perhaps they don’t mean what you think they do. Could be that I am wrong but being that I am hypothesizing and continue my attempts to live a humble life of service and belief in accordance with John 3:16 I feel pretty good about my prospects. My Pastor surely knows that I am not a homophobe since I pointed out to him that I fear we evangelicals will lose ground on our only most important worldly assignment of taking the good news to the world when we are judgmental.

            Not a social gospel?? Really, you’ve read the Bible? Really read it. Starting with the year of Jubilee (where slaves were freed and debt forgiven) and the condemnation of Judea for their mistreatment of the least of their people. This is a major reason (along with paganism) that Babylon was allowed to conquer Judea. That’s according to the word of God delivered to the people of Judea by God’s prophets after the time of Solomon.

            The drive for social justice and fairness doesn’t stop in the old testament. Take Matt 26 – the story of the sheep and the goats where those that are condemned are sent to the lake of fire for not taking care of the least of us. Or where Christ tells the young ruler to sell all, give away the proceeds, and take up a life of poverty. Or where Christ joins Matthews dinner party for the sinners and publicans. Or even the idea of turning one check or doing charitable work in private with as little glory as possible.

            The question about Jesus’ preferences is also based on the text. I don’t know how you interpret the phrase “the disciple Jesus loved” but the suggestion that these two men had an intimate relationship is certainly a possibility. If it is a possibility it must be considered. Since even if orientation is a choice (I can’t remember when I made that choice but I could have) individuals are wired by God. If there is 0.0001% of 0.00000001% of a chance that this choice is in their wiring homophobia is an insult to God.

            There are a lot of issues in my sin reversal that are a lot more important than Christ’s sexuality but you’ve focused on this bit of trivia. Why are you so concerned about it?

            The Southern Baptist Convention is a democracy there is a fairly common set of agreed beliefs but only one critical requirement. John 3:16 pretty much covers it. Do I beleive Christ is Gods son, came to earth as a man, died for my sins. Yes!

            Enough said. Merry Christmas

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Tell me, were those angels who destroyed Sodom”homophobes,”or were they expressing the will of God?

          • rothgar

            It appears that they were expressing God’s outrage at the Sodomites violation of the ethics of hospitality which were/are considered of paramount importance especially in that part of the world. Had they been abiding by the rules of their Hospitality based culture they would never have thought about abusing their visitors. Since God exhiled the Isrealites into the Babylonian Diaspora in part for their inhospitalable attitudes and exploitation of their underclasses it seems quite reasonable.

            If Sodomites were pegging each other why would there have been an outcry against them from their neighbors as the Angels told Abraham before they ventured into Sodom.

            The orientation is irrelevant the abuse is the point.

            Merry Christmas.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Oh, yeah. I forgot. You must have read that in II Hezekiah 3:2?

          • rothgar

            No that would be Genesis 18:20. “Then the Lord said, “The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great adn their sin so greivious that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know.”.” (NIV)

            Sounds like it fits the story I presented pretty darned well.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Steve, you are a dope.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Well, this certainly has been a revealing conversation — not about the grace of God, but about you. So, I close with the following quote. It speaks well of you:

            3 Dear friends, I had been eagerly planning to write to you about the salvation we all share. But now I find that I must write about something else, urging you to defend the faith that God has entrusted once for all time to his holy people. 4 I say this because some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches, saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives. The condemnation of such people was recorded long ago, for they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
            5 So I want to remind you, though you already know these things, that Jesus first rescued the nation of Israel from Egypt, but later he destroyed those who did not remain faithful. 6 And I remind you of the angels who did not stay within the limits of authority God gave them but left the place where they belonged. God has kept them securely chained in prisons of darkness, waiting for the great day of judgment. 7 And don’t forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God’s judgment.
            Jude 1:3-7

            Makes it simple, doesn’t it! As a matter of fact, based upon your expressions, and what we learn above, it seems obvious that you have a very warm future.

            You see, when I told you that it is not a social gospel, it meant that the Gospel is not a democracy. You do not come to God and say “Let’s make a deal.” You come to God, and He says “This is the deal!” Jude warns you openly. Could it be more clear?

          • rothgar

            What constitutes an immoral life?

            One that is focused on a limited view of sexuality and condemning all who don’t meet your view of acceptable behavoir or one that is concerned about meeting the needs of all people as best as possible with the hope that your actions will serve as a means of introducing them to the saving grace.

            I’d posit that the second option is far closer to the heart of Jesus.

            By social gospel the point is that social justice and caring for the least of these is what we are instructed to do. The sheeps and goats are separated by their service to others not their eagerness to condemn others. In fact Jesus points out that plenty of people (antichrists he calls them) will come into the world allegedly speaking in his name and he plans on denying them just as much as the worst sinners around.

            I don’t know all the answers for they are intentionally obscure, but I take my clues from the words of Christ. Someone’s choice of life partner is not my business. Making sure they get a fair/equitable chance in this world and a hand up if needed is my business see Matt 26.

            I’d go for the asbestos lined boots if I were you.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            There is no obscurity in the Book, except in the delusion of your own perversity. Even so, I do not condemn you. You do so yourself. As it is written: “And the judgment is based on this fact: God’s light came into the world, but people loved the darkness more than the light, for their actions were evil.” John 3:19

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            I wonder how much difference it would make in your life if you had actually made it a practice to read the Book? Is this “Jesus” you know divine? There are many by that name. It seems as though the one you know is NOT the one in the Book. Apparently alluding to the one in the Book, you have seemingly forgotten that He is “God made flesh,” or you never learned that. In an earlier post, you said he along with “the disciple that He loved” was what the Book refers to as a ” homosexual pervert.” That was what you said?

            When Jews were first learning the law regarding what an acceptable sacrifice consisted of, here is what they were told: “the animals you choose must be without defect… without spot or blemish.” Exodus 12. Now, according to the Book, when God left heaven and became a man, here is what Peter said: “…the costly sacrifice of Christ, who was a lamb without defect or flaw…” He goes on in the next chapter: “He committed no sin… Christ himself carried our sins in his body to the cross.” So, if the Jesus you know is living an immoral life (as defined in the Book), how do you have any hope of eternal life? Because if anyone other than a sinless person died on that cross, it was for their own sins, not yours. It was only for what they deserved, and therefore the sacrifice was worthless!

            So, you might consider if this applies to you: “I have told you this many times before, and now repeat it with tears: there are many whose lives make them the enemies of Christ’s death on the cross. They are going to end up in hell, because their god is their bodily desires. They are proud of what they should be ashamed of, and they think only of things that belong to this world.” Paul (whom you called, what was it “a closet queen?), written to the Philippians.

            At a recent national conference of atheists, an interviewer asked a number of the attendees this question: “If I could prove beyond all doubt, and to your total satisfaction that God does exist, would you worship Him?” Everyone asked, replied this way: “No!” You see, it isn’t that they don’t believe. All people actually DO believe, regardless of their public persona. The real issue is that they refuse to be under the authority of God. Consequently, as Paul wrote above, “…the enemies of Christ death on the cross… are going to end up in hell.” Life is ALL about choices with consequences!

            So, you see. It is God who does the forgiving. It is God who does the condemning (not me as you have alluded to). It is us who must decide whether or not we choose life or death. I am but the messenger!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            I wonder how much difference it would make in your life if you had actually made it a practice to read the Book? Is this “Jesus” you know divine? There are many by that name. It seems as though the one you know is NOT the one in the Book. Apparently alluding to the one in the Book, you have seemingly forgotten that He is “God made flesh,” or you never learned that. In an earlier post, you said he along with “the disciple that He loved” was what the Book refers to as a ” homosexual pervert.” That was what you said?

            When Jews were first learning the law regarding what an acceptable sacrifice consisted of, here is what they were told: “the animals you choose must be without defect… without spot or blemish.” Exodus 12. Now, according to the Book, when God left heaven and became a man, here is what Peter said: “…the costly sacrifice of Christ, who was a lamb without defect or flaw…” He goes on in the next chapter: “He committed no sin… Christ himself carried our sins in his body to the cross.” So, if the Jesus you know is living an immoral life (as defined in the Book), how do you have any hope of eternal life? Because if anyone other than a sinless person died on that cross, it was for their own sins, not yours. It was only for what they deserved, and therefore the sacrifice was worthless!

            So, you might consider if this applies to you: “I have told you this many times before, and now repeat it with tears: there are many whose lives make them the enemies of Christ’s death on the cross. They are going to end up in hell, because their god is their bodily desires. They are proud of what they should be ashamed of, and they think only of things that belong to this world.” Paul, (whom you called, what was it “a closet queen?) written to the Philippians.

            At a recent national conference of atheists, an interviewer asked a number of the attendees this question: “If I could prove beyond all doubt, and to your total satisfaction that God does exist, would you worship Him?” Everyone asked, replied this way: “No!” You see, it isn’t that they don’t believe. All people actually DO believe, regardless of their public persona. The real issue is that they refuse to be under the authority of God. Consequently, as Paul wrote above, “…the enemies of Christ death on the cross… are going to end up in hell.” Life is ALL about choices with consequences!

            So, you see. It is God who does the forgiving. It is God who does the condemning (not me as you have alluded to). It is us who must decide whether or not we choose life or death. I am but the messenger!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            I wonder how much difference it would make in your life if you had actually made it a practice to read the Book? Is this “Jesus” you know divine? There are many by that name. It seems as though the one you know is NOT the one in the Book. Apparently alluding to the one in the Book, you have seemingly forgotten that He is “God made flesh,” or you never learned that. In an earlier post, you said he along with “the disciple that He loved” was what the Book refers to as a ” homosexual pervert.” That was what you said?

            When Jews were first learning the law regarding what an acceptable sacrifice consisted of, here is what they were told: “the animals you choose must be without defect… without spot or blemish.” Exodus 12. Now, according to the Book, when God left heaven and became a man, here is what Peter said: “…the costly sacrifice of Christ, who was a lamb without defect or flaw…” He goes on in the next chapter: “He committed no sin… Christ himself carried our sins in his body to the cross.” So, if the Jesus you know is living an immoral life (as defined in the Book), how do you have any hope of eternal life? Because if anyone other than a sinless person died on that cross, it was for their own sins, not yours. It was only for what they deserved, and therefore the sacrifice was worthless!

            So, you might consider if this applies to you: “I have told you this many times before, and now repeat it with tears: there are many whose lives make them the enemies of Christ’s death on the cross. They are going to end up in hell, because their god is their bodily desires. They are proud of what they should be ashamed of, and they think only of things that belong to this world.” Paul, (whom you called, what was it “a closet queen?) written to the Philippians.

            At a recent national conference of atheists, an interviewer asked a number of the attendees this question: “If I could prove beyond all doubt, and to your total satisfaction that God does exist, would you worship Him?” Everyone asked, replied this way: “No!” You see, it isn’t that they don’t believe. All people actually DO believe, regardless of their public persona. The real issue is that they refuse to be under the authority of God. Consequently, as Paul wrote above, “…the enemies of Christ death on the cross… are going to end up in hell.” Life is ALL about choices with consequences!

            So, you see. It is God who does the forgiving. It is God who does the condemning (not me as you have alluded to). It is us who must decide whether or not we choose life or death. I am but the messenger!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            PART 2

            So, you might consider if this applies to you: “I have told you this many times before, and now repeat it with tears: there are many whose lives make them the enemies of Christ’s death on the cross. They are going to end up in hell, because their god is their bodily desires. They are proud of what they should be ashamed of, and they think only of things that belong to this world.” Paul, (whom you called, what was it “a closet queen?) written to the Philippians.

            At a recent national conference of atheists, an interviewer asked a number of the attendees this question: “If I could prove beyond all doubt, and to your total satisfaction that God does exist, would you worship Him?” Everyone asked, replied this way: “No!” You see, it isn’t that they don’t believe. All people actually DO believe, regardless of their public persona. The real issue is that they refuse to be under the authority of God. Consequently, as Paul wrote above, “…the enemies of Christ death on the cross… are going to end up in hell.” Life is ALL about choices with consequences!

            So, you see. It is God who does the forgiving. It is God who does the condemning (not me as you have alluded to). It is us who must decide whether or not we choose life or death. I am but the messenger!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Part 1

            I wonder how much difference it would make in your life if you had actually made it a practice to read the Book? Is this “Jesus” you know divine? There are many by that name. It seems as though the one you know is NOT the one in the Book. Apparently alluding to the one in the Book, you have seemingly forgotten that He is “God made flesh,” or you never learned that. In an earlier post, you said he along with “the disciple that He loved” was what the Book refers to as a ” homosexual pervert.” That was what you said?

            When Jews were first learning the law regarding what an acceptable sacrifice consisted of, here is what they were told: “the animals you choose must be without defect… without spot or blemish.” Exodus 12. Now, according to the Book, when God left heaven and became a man, here is what Peter said: “…the costly sacrifice of Christ, who was a lamb without defect or flaw…” He goes on in the next chapter: “He committed no sin… Christ himself carried our sins in his body to the cross.” So, if the Jesus you know is living an immoral life (as defined in the Book), how do you have any hope of eternal life? Because if anyone other than a sinless person died on that cross, it was for their own sins, not yours. It was only for what they deserved, and therefore the sacrifice was worthless!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            How many good works is it going to take to save you?

        • patuxant

          Therein lies the rub for your position. You believe than only you have an exclusive right to what is called “truth”. You are Not the arbiter of the fate of any other American. Get off your high horse!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Not so! The day of your judgment will immediately follow your last breath. I will not be your judge, then or now.

            I merely tell you what will eventually become obvious to even the most hardened ideologue as your stomach cries out for food, and your heart cries for the freedom you voted away.

            Say something sarcastic if you will, but the mirror will become your worst enemy, as you (in that not so distant future) are forced to acknowledge that your eyes were blinded by indoctrination, and you gave away your heritage of living in a Constitutional Republic, under the Rule of Law.

            Even Putin is warning us of this in Pravda. I am but the messenger.

          • patuxant

            You scare me! NOT…!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You will suffer more than most, pal, for your high and mighty attitude. Go back to your big megachurch and give them your lifesavings! And remember, I still see all of your unkindness and sarcasm in your posts. You should talk! HA!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            You see what you choose to see. You decidedly do not know me.

          • patuxant

            Likewise I am sure. So stop putting people down you know nothing about. When it happens to you you don’t like it do you? That is called the “Golden Rule”.

          • ritaramona

            and I decidedly do not want to!

          • Dana Es

            Just as you do not know the people you are insulting and criticizing, yet you feel free to spew on and on and on.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Nah! Never owned a horse. :)

          • patuxant

            Get one so you can be another Don Quixote! haha

    • patuxant

      Oh? Forgive me. Did I not just read your post where you claim Liberals only use sarcasm and ridicule. Pot calling the kettle black!

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        No, they sometimes use it in lieu of intelligent responses to thoughtful presentations they do not favor. It is NO substitute. My sarcasm shames thoughts, not people. It is purposeful and constructive — yes it can be such, properly used.

        However, using it in a mean-spirited, demeaning way is counter productive. It is impossible to “win” an argument. Persuasive and thoughtful responses are much better.

        We have a country to save, and it is near death. We must all pull together like no time in the past.

  • http://twitter.com/SAJP Sa Janes

    I think most intelligent, thoughtful, truly patriotic Americans live and breathe in the hope that some day, slimy, self-aggrandizing, knuckle-dragging reptiles like Cuccinelli have no chance of ever attaining public office, and thus the power to legislate over us, our families and the futures of our children.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/PMVMZMDLRQL3TRK5RNOHJVZPHU stoptheinsanity

    RethugLIARcons come up with every excuse in the book to rationalize their recent loss in the presidential election except accept reponsibility themselves for their terrible ideas and policies. Right-wing trolls like Cuccinelli are the scum of the earth. They hypothesize and conjure up delusions of grandeur and their followers suck up this garbage “hook, line, and sinker.” The governor, secretary of state, and Cuccinelli engaged in voter suppression and disenfranchisement of minorites and Democratic voters as never before seen in the state. Now Cuccinelli has the nerves and audacity to suggest that it was Democrats who engaged in voter fraud. Boy, talk about the biggest sack of lies and propaganda that these trolls are still trying to perpetuate! Democrats held no true political power or positions in the Virginia, yet President Obama was able to pull off a win in the state. The people of Virginia know their politicians the best. Why do you think they voted for the president? RethugLIARcon politicians in the state stink!!!

    • Sand_Cat

      Unfortunately, though the people of Virginia may “know” their politicians, they still keep voting for them.

  • dtgraham

    “Obama lost in every state where photo ID was required to vote.”

    Most of those states had names like Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Tennessee, and Louisiana. Yeah, Obama would have won those without that stupid ID. I’m tellin’ ya, the guy had armies of Mexicans, Canadians, zombies, Martians, vampires and werewolves all lined up and ready to vote for him.

    Damn!

    • JREX_TheRexReport

      Zombies? So, you admit that some dead people were actually caught voting? I did see that in several news broadcasts. How did they manage that? Twilight? It is a brave new world.

      • dtgraham

        It sure is JREX. In the United States these days anyway.

    • Sand_Cat

      I’m not sure you can include vampires: all the suckers voted for Romney.

      • dtgraham

        Touche madam. Touche.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    Where were all these people in 2000 when hanging and pregnant chads, and deliberate delays in a Florida recount, resulted in the man who lost the popular vote by over 1 million votes being SELECTED President by a friendly Supreme Court?
    53% of Americans voted for Barack Obama because we support his agenda, respect the contributions he has made, and share his vision of the future. The electoral college vote – 332 Vs 206 – says it all. If the GOP wants to bury their heads in the sand and remains delusional, that’s fine, that’s their loss. The rest of us will continue to move forward, while they and the Taliban remain focused on the past.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Kay-F-Ferguson/1611135655 Kay F. Ferguson

      Dominick, When your god in the whitehouse is exposed for the traitor that he is, then you’ll change your tune. Seriously, Benghazi will be the nail in the coffin, because executive priviledge won’t work this time. BTW, Fast and Furious is not over yet either. Say what you want, defend the illegal liar and ignore the TRUTH in your face, but millions of Americans from all parties want answers for more American murders. You can ignore the mounting Obama body count, but the relatives of the brave slain Americans can’t.

      • Canadiangirl57

        Look who’s talking remember “WMD” in Iraqi, GWB, Cheney, Rumsfeld and the likes. Now they blaming Americans dying in Afghan on the Barack, that’s laughable.

        • Dol5

          Yes, but the more they talk like this the more they cloud the real issues. One can only hope that they will fall on their asses.

        • JREX_TheRexReport

          How about the 500 metric tons of yellow cake that W. kept quite until he could remove it from Iraq into Canada in the middle of the night? Look it up on the web.

          Saddam was just a few steps from the atomic age in weaponry. You never knew it because Bush kept it quite to avoid danger to our troops who guarded it until it could be safely removed from the country. This is ALL available for verification on the web.

          Why didn’t you ever hear of it? Because, the “mainstream” media hated Bush so much that they would never be this honest if it would praise him, even for doing something that was clearly this good. This is a TRUE story. I know that truth is not important to some of you. I will know who, when I get the nasty replies for merely telling the truth. DOGWHISTLE!!!!!!

          • 324516

            are you one of those that every thing you see on the web is true sad very very sad do you get out much

      • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

        The Benghazi attack, and the likely response once we identify who participated in that attack and who was its mastermind, will enhance President Obama’s stature and will vindicate his foreign policy strategy. Yes, Fast and Furious, a program initiated by the Bush administration was poorly managed and executed. I am gld the Obama administration ended it. However, the out of control sale of weapons to the Mexican drug cartels deserve to be investigated. Whomever is responsible for the sale of weapons to Mexican criminals during the past decade, and the deaths of as many as 60,000 people, should end up in jail.
        BTW, I am an agnostic, the God bit doesn’t impress me much…

        • tobewan

          I tend to like all of your sensible and well thought comments, Vila.
          Evolutionists believing that we are just a form of animal, have no hope at all. An agnostic at least acknowledges there may be a God but doesn’t know for sure. Clue: It took intelligence to form “he and she” for reproduction – happenstance could never do that! Thankfully we are for His creation, and His plans for us. We too came by sensible and well thought provisions of our planet.
          He said He would “draw all nations together” and He has!
          The “time of trouble” predicted, that we are in, began right on His timing – 1914! We are watching to see when it will end, for it will lead afterwards to the prevalence of righteousness in His Son’s kingdom.

          • Sand_Cat

            Talk about wishful thinking!

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHFTB6X3AZPE4ZKUA5ZP4BGWSM A j CARIAGA jr

          THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR HEAVY FIREARMS SALES ACROSS THE SOUTHERN BORDERS ARE OF COURSE REPUBLI-CON STATES, TEXAS AND ARIZONA! HYPOCRITES!

        • JREX_TheRexReport

          The “god bit” will impress you one second after you die. The Bible has a name for those who are like you. “The fool has said in his heart ‘there is no God.’ ”

          Your repeated cries at that instant “I’m not here, and this is not happening…I’m not here, and this is not happening” will be mixed with the most horrible and pitiful screams you can ever imagine… made all the worse when you realize they are from your own soul. All of this as you gain for the first time in your brief existence a grasp of an eternity apart from your Creator, caused entirely by your own rebellion and refusal of the hundreds of entreaties of His love during your lifetime.

      • DukeDacat

        Hey TROLL, please just go away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Dol5

        Where in the world do you get your facts? Seems to me you are just ranting because your party lost the election! Wise up.

      • northroader1775

        Kay he isn’t a GOD…he isn’t perfect…he is a very good politician and a good leader. The GOP ran a clown in a suit because you believed your own lies, that the country was worse now than 4 years ago (BS), and everyone hated and blamed Obama. (More BS). So you paraded out a clown posse of idiots and let them tear each other up in the primary elections believing that anyonre could beat Obama….but you were wrong then and you are wrong now.

        I hope we can get back to the actual work of governance soon, but I believe that you and people like you who are hell bent on party party party in front of country are going to keep this bullshit up for two more years. Part of me hopes you do because this is the nail in your coffin. We are either moving forward with you, working together to solve our issues, or we are moving forward without you and the tea bagging GOP will be extinct by 2020. Here’s my prediction, about half of you will wake up and get back to business, the hard core tea baggers are going to be dropping like flies in 2014. The tea party will absolutely be a non issue by 2018 and completely dead by 2020, and if the GOP doesn’t dump them and put some serious distance between themselves and addlebrained toothless swamp dwelling morons who are it’s current base, they will still be headed for an ignominious exit to oblivion.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Sheets/1251217794 John Sheets

        Just another ridiculous post from a T-Maggot.

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OE3E5OTBJK2TXP7XJE2KVTARLA James D

        Kay….you are a unrelenting liar! I do not know your motivation but the body count as you state it was a direct result of a profit motive of Bush and Cheny administration. We had no business attacking Iraq, when the ones who killed some six thousand Americans in New York, we let Muscheriff hide in Pakistan. My son, who is an officer just came back from Afghanistan. He can relate the sheer ignorance of nation building set out by Bush. That is what gets our troops killed. Armies are for destroying an enemy, not getting converts. The whole Bush lie created this mess. He knew we were getting played for a sucker. He put the Sheites in power in Iraq and let the taliban have the run of Afghanistan with the help of Pakistan. You are parroting some TEA POTTY line here….it is quite apparent you have no knowledge or interest in finding what is really happening. The fact is Obama is planning to get us our as soon as possible, while damaging the Taliban at every turn. We will be out in 2014. That is a fact.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000154227782 Bart Grossman

        Too much TV.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Jkirk3279 William Carr

        You are weak-minded. US Embassies were attacked 11 times under President Bush.

        Where were you then? Calling Bush a Traitor?

        Bush STARTED the Fast and Furious gun-tracking program. It wasn’t intended to PUSH guns to Mexico, but to TRACK them. A few rogue agents, frustrated because Arizona Law prevented them from arresting the gun dealers pushing the gun sales, did add a few guns to the river flowing South.

        It wasn’t President Obama’s idea, and your fulminations will amount to nothing in the end.

      • James Thomas

        Kay, which Brave Slain Americans are you speaking of? The people at Benghazi or the 4, 000 plus American soldiers who lost their lives in Iraq over weapons that didn’t exist? Or the 3,000 Americans and citizens of the world, and emergency response personnel who lost their lives on 9-11, a 7 full months into President Bush’s first term in office, despite the warnings the Administration received?

      • Rich Rogers

        traitor! the only traitors in this country are neo-nazi like yourself-Seig heil. PS ask Bush about the body count getting the US into wars based on known lies

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Jones/827014412 Daniel Jones

      They were causing it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Alice-Johnson/1354867656 Alice Johnson

      Excellent, well said. As usual. Thank you, Dominick.

  • Lovefacts

    Cuccinelli is a moron and an embarrassment to Virginia. The thought of him becoming our governor sends terror into the heart of all thinking Virginians. He has routinely abused his power to make a name for himself—the lawsuits again UVA and the scientist over global warming. He has also abused his power to further his own agenda—threatening a non-political medical panel into declaring a law demanding specific architectural features for abortion clinics vs. regular medical or surgical clinics was legal. The man is has no moral core.

  • swhitaker6

    Let’s sympathize with Cuccinelli, he still cannot believe President Obama won. He’s still in shock. Let’s give him another month to get over it. Maybe he’ll come around to accept it. If not, we may have to commit him as this will certainly drive him nuts! :)

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/HUAPJTKZ6USWUKL6TK535ACUPA James Curran

    There were also problems in 2000 and 2008,however the republican supreme court and Jeb Bush put an end to the discussion.

  • old_blu

    This has to be the seventh reason Obama won. Not one of the Rebuplicans have blamed the stupid ideas they have and the candidate they chose, although I see where Donald Dumb is throwing Romney under the bus now.

  • Jim Lou

    An Inconvenient Truth. Those who don’t like Obama often obfuscate and addle things that are convenient.

  • JREX_TheRexReport

    I was a Tea Party Rally once. I didn’t see a single bigot there. There were black people there, too! They were waving the same signs calling for the ouster of irresponsible government officials spending all of our money.

    That, by the way, is the total essence of the Tea Party, which actually has no organizers, or head office. They are just Americans who hate the destruction of this great nation at the hands of those who do not love truth, prosperity through hard work, and MUCH LESS GOVERNMENT!

    Oooops, I almost forgot. There was an amazing artist there. They had a sign of Pelosi with the caption: “pig wearing lipstick.” Were they a bigot?

    Liberals use “bigot” whenever they can’t argue with the truth. What they lack in intellect (or love of country) they more than make-up with sarcasm & ridicule. I do have one question: How do you keep from drowning when it rains?

    • JREX_TheRexReport

      Correction: “I was at a Tea Party Rally once.” Thank you!

    • patuxant

      Nice for you Rex! Sorry pal, when you claim you have a right to run over mine, you lose. And if you think that people who disagree with you lack intelligence or fail to love their country or work hard, then you need to go back and take a refresher course on how this country came into existence and what fundamental rights were to be protected. And further, you talk about “sacrasm and ridicule”? Look closely at what you just wrote, particularly in your third paragraph and tell me about ridicule and sarcasm. And how about all your other coherts who give demeaning names to the President? Please, take a good look at yourself before you start acting high and mighty and self-righteous.

  • http://www.facebook.com/vince.negro Vince Negro

    Not true. In Michigan:
    “An individual who does not possess, or did not bring to the polls, photo ID, may sign an affidavit and vote a regular ballot.”
    Or just sign a paper at the polls…

  • howa4x

    This is funny since the republicans controlled the election in Va

  • http://profiles.yahoo.com/u/CHRX55LC2E7B6QNXIOZTQBTZB4 BEN

    How do these people get selected to head offices that are vital to the people and their respective state? Just the thought alone makes you cringe.

  • JREX_TheRexReport

    Now, WhutHeSaid, your remark is the most racist remark I have seen to date from a liberal, and there are many! However, you should learn the truth, if you are capable of accepting it.

    Even if I were so narrow-minded as to hate a person for the color of their skin (and I am not), I would still have a difficult time in this instance deciding what half of Obama to dislike as you allude to. Should I dislike the white half with a communist mother and communist grand parents? Should I dislike the black half with a socialist/anti-colonialist (in reality communist) father in Kenya?

    Personally, I wanted a true black man for our president. Alan Keys would have been a great choice, as would also J.C. Watts. There are others I favored, such as Herman Cain. Wait a minute, they are all black! Why didn’t someone tell me?

    No, I only have one color problem with Obama. When you prick him, he does NOT bleed Red, White, and Blue! That is the only prerequisite for becoming President in which I am color-sensitive. Why aren’t you?

    • english_teacher

      OK, I’ll bite. First of all, what does that “bleed Red, White, and Blue” actually mean? Secondly, in your opinion, in what does Obama not bleed red, white, and blue?

      If you have specific complaints with verifiable, unbiased facts to support them, and not GOP/TP talking points, then it might be worth a discussion. Otherwise, you’re just a disgruntled troll and we should not waste any more time with you. It’s not worth the aggravation.

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        english_teacher, thank you for what you do for a living. Our children seem to need your help. This is sincere.

        Twice, I attempted to answer your request, but the moderator wouldn’t post what I wrote to you. Perhaps if you requested them to allow you to actually see what I wrote in reply, you would benefit. I suspect you are fair-minded.

        However, if the moderators are dedicated to censorship of any information not of their particular tastes, what kind of society are we creating? The Soviets used to practice this sort of control over their people, but there was no freedom.

        Today, they are free, and the church is thriving. They through Putin, are warning us not to follow their terrible mistake. Go to their newspaper and look-up the one about Obama and his Soviet mistake.

        • english_teacher

          I don’t believe it’s censorship but rather that a comment does not go through if it includes links. On other sites, links can be displayed but here they aren’t. I seem to remember having written comments which included links and then never appeared.

          So, without the links but references to the sources, can you answer my questions?

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Here are a few of the notable statements: “I want to create a National Defense Force, as well equipped, and as well trained as the military, to work within the borders of the US.” (paraphrase, but very close) That one alone, causes much pause. 1) we have never had such 2) we do NOT need this 3) it has ominous potential for a man that also said the following:

            “sorry I haven’t been able to implement the utopian agenda as quickly as I want, but that pesky constitution and the other two branches of government have been getting in my way.” July 2011. Excuse me! We are a Constitutional Republic.

            Frank Marshall Davis was his “mentor” in Hawaii. I have read some of the very thick FBI file on this man, a card-carrying communist. Further, he told us that his grandparents (communist also) chose this man to be his mentor! Explains his thinking?

            “we can’t wait for an increasingly dysfunctional Congress to do its job. Where they won’t act, I will. I’ve told my administration to keep looking every single day for actions we can take without Congress…and we’re going to be announcing these executive actions on a regular basis.” These are the words of a would-be dictator. This nation was designed to have a balance of powers EQUALLY between Executive, Judicial, and Congress. It was designed to have tension, but maintain FREEDOM!

            All of this is cause for serious consideration regarding this particular man. Further,
            on a recently surfaced tape, he is heard on a WBEZ-FM interview from 2001, stating that he believes that a “redistributive change” is needed. Very communist ideology!

            Suppose that 10 years ago you couldn’t pay your rent, but (through hard work) are now successful. Do you deserve to have now become a target for those would say you should have that prosperity stolen from you to be given to others who did not work for it? If I believed that, I would intentionally try real hard to remain a failure!
            What is the point of hard work if you cannot keep what you personally earned? News Flash: being successful is NOT evil!!!!!

            Finally (and there is a huge amount of information beyond what I have shared), Putin recognizes him as a communist and begs us NOT to follow the path of the USSR!!!!!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Sorry I couldn’t get back to you earlier today with this reply.

          • english_teacher

            1) National Defense Force. I didn’t want a paraphrase; I wanted facts. I checked on the internet to verify this. Excluding hits on foreign national defense forces, I did not find a single site that was neutral and unbiased within the first 200 hits.

            One question: couldn’t you call the U.S. military in general a national defense force because isn’t its mission to defend the nation?

            2) I could not verify your second quotation independently on a neutral and unbiased site.

            3) Frank Marshall Davis. I have no problem with Obama’s mentor having been a Communist labor activist who fought to improve workers’ lives. As for having an FBI file, other people who’ve had FBI files include Eleanor Roosevelt, Steve Jobs, John Lennon, Martin Luther King, and Elvis Presley.

            4) How would you characterize Congress? Explain to me how a Congress that puts ideology and their partisan political gain over the good of the country is not dysfunctional. If Congress isn’t doing its job, then how can the president, any president, do his? What options does the president have to move the country forward?

            If you’re talking about the use of executive orders, then, according to the American Presidency Project, Obama has used fewer (138 as of 9/20/2012 or Obama’s 44th month in office) than either George W. Bush (168) and Ronald Reagan (213) did in their first terms of office.

            5) As for “redistributive change”, how would you describe the change that has taken place since Reagan was president, with the percentage of wealth becoming increasingly concentrated in the upper 5% (Economic Policy Institute)? Isn’t that also redistributive change? I believe it is. Why is that change good but one which seeks to level the playing field by redistributing downward is bad? I believe that any extremes of redistributive change are not good for the long-term health of our country.

            However, no one is saying that you can’t be successful. What is being said is that everyone, including those in the top ranks, pay a fair share. Why is working for fairness wrong?

            5) I could not find independent verification on a neutral, unbiased site of Putin’s comments.

            I asked you for verifiable, unbiased facts, which you have not provided. I have spent time trying to confirm what you said but was unable to do so because I could not find your statements listed anywhere but from biased sources. When you can give facts and not opinions, then we can have a discussion.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Do you recall telling me that this site does not allow web links attached to blogs? Well, I can’t send you the YouTube video of Obama telling of his plans to create a force that would be national, and as I described, but I can tell you that such would be illegal under the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. The Law will get in the way of tyranny! The troubling aspect of this story is that this man does not 1) know the law ans 2) have a deep reverence for the law.

            I listened to Obama make these remarks, and frankly was disappointed that a “constitutional attorney” would NOT know this. However, in retrospect, his willingness to override the protections of both the Constitution, itself, as well as the Common Law (if he could) has been demonstrated both by his actions, and his very words. If you do NOT know this by now, it must be a willing blindness on your part.

            Have YOU ever pondered why this man would decidedly not wish to release his records at Harvard? How about Columbia records? He did learn law there?

            I also watched the video of his remarks regarding congress and the Constitution getting in his way. Sorry, I can’t send you the link to that either. Would you consider his very own words on video to be “independent and verifiable” enough? Or would the fact that someone “not in his camp” showed the video make it somehow not true?

            I also watched his interview with the San Francisco Chronicle: “Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” (January 2008) At the time he said this, we had just recovered from very high gasoline prices, and this man told us that, to force his ideas regarding environmental issues, we would all suffer very high electricity rates. He is NOT one of us. This IS redistribution of wealth! Personally, as I watched this interview, I was horrified.

            Do you want to know the rest of the story? This was intentionally NOT released until it was too late to be of much influence with voters. This was media manipulation to avoid having it weigh on the minds of would-be supporters of Obama.

            Your point 3 is troubling. It is obvious that the public school indoctrination you sat through did its work on your thinking. It is overtly pro Marxist. The NEA might as well be an official Socialist organization. Come out of the closet!

            Point 4: I agree that congress is dysfunctional. Greed and hardened ideology equally infect both sides of the isle. Therefore, I support Term Limits.

            You wrote: “Congress isn’t doing its job, then how can the president, any president, do his? What options does the president have to move the country forward?” You might want to give up teaching and get a job with MoveOn.Org. You see, we DO NOT need to change the country, unless that means to abide by the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Are you familiar with the legal premise: stare decisis? It means basically: do NOT abandon the old path, or, if you will “stand by what is already decided.” It is the KEY doctrine in American law. Ultimately, it will stop the Marxist revolution your words betray.

            Allow me to tell you that the Framers of the Constitution did a wonderful job, and they laid what has become a well trodden path for us to follow. The current ideology that we need to “fundamentally transform” this nation is born NOT of American traditional values, but of the Marxist indoctrination given our youth in public education. This is a Constitutional Republic — not a pure democracy. There is much wisdom in this design, and it has kept us safe for the many years since it was created. Only short-sighted fools would dare to tamper with it.

            Pravda regularly sings the praises of our Constitutional Republic, as they long in their hearts to live by American ideals. The Statute of Liberty celebrates the fact that the masses of immigrants came here to escape the tyranny of their homelands. It is stunning that today the former communists of Russia warn us NOT to follow that path to destruction! Only fools would not listen.

            PS: no person is capable of truly being “non-biased.” Get real!

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            Do you recall telling me that this site does not allow web links attached to blogs? Well, I can’t send you the YouTube video of Obama telling of his plans to create a force that would be national, and as I described, but I can tell you that such would be illegal under the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878. The Law will get in the way of tyranny! The troubling aspect of this story is that this man does not 1) know the law ans 2) have a deep reverence for the law.

            I listened to Obama make these remarks, and frankly was disappointed that a “constitutional attorney” would NOT know this. However, in retrospect, his willingness to override the protections of both the Constitution, itself, as well as the Common Law (if he could) has been demonstrated both by his actions, and his very words. If you do NOT know this by now, it must be a willing blindness on your part.

            Have YOU ever pondered why this man would decidedly not wish to release his records at Harvard? How about Columbia records? He did learn law there?

            I also watched the video of his remarks regarding congress and the Constitution getting in his way. Sorry, I can’t send you the link to that either. Would you consider his very own words on video to be “independent and verifiable” enough? Or would the fact that someone “not in his camp” showed the video make it somehow not true?

            I also watched his interview with the San Francisco Chronicle: “Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” (January 2008) At the time he said this, we had just recovered from very high gasoline prices, and this man told us that, to force his ideas regarding environmental issues, we would all suffer very high electricity rates. He is NOT one of us. This IS redistribution of wealth! Personally, as I watched this interview, I was horrified.

            Do you want to know the rest of the story? This was intentionally NOT released until it was too late to be of much influence with voters. This was media manipulation to avoid having it weigh on the minds of would-be supporters of Obama.

            Your point 3 is troubling. It is obvious that the public school indoctrination you sat through did its work on your thinking. It is overtly pro Marxist. The NEA might as well be an official Socialist organization. Come out of the closet!

            Point 4: I agree that congress is dysfunctional. Greed and hardened ideology equally infect both sides of the isle. Therefore, I support Term Limits.

            You wrote: “Congress isn’t doing its job, then how can the president, any president, do his? What options does the president have to move the country forward?” You might want to give up teaching and get a job with MoveOn.Org. You see, we DO NOT need to change the country, unless that means to abide by the Constitution and the Rule of Law. Are you familiar with the legal premise: stare decisis? It means basically: do NOT abandon the old path, or, if you will “stand by what is already decided.” It is the KEY doctrine in American law. Ultimately, it will stop the Marxist revolution your words betray.

            Allow me to tell you that the Framers of the Constitution did a wonderful job, and they laid what has become a well trodden path for us to follow. The current ideology that we need to “fundamentally transform” this nation is born NOT of American traditional values, but of the Marxist indoctrination given our youth in public education. This is a Constitutional Republic — not a pure democracy. There is much wisdom in this design, and it has kept us safe for the many years since it was created. Only short-sighted fools would dare to tamper with it.

            Pravda regularly sings the praises of our Constitutional Republic, as they long in their hearts to live by American ideals. The Statute of Liberty celebrates the fact that the masses of immigrants came here to escape the tyranny of their homelands. It is stunning that today the former communists of Russia warn us NOT to follow that path to destruction! Only fools would not listen.

            PS: no person is capable of truly being “non-biased.” Get real!

          • english_teacher

            I asked for you to explain yourself with facts and responded to your comments with respect. You, on the other hand, respond with insults and tirades. You’re interested only in imposing your views on others, not in having a discussion. I feel sorry for you.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            There wasn’t a tirade in the reply. You asked for truth, and then derided it with the dismissive claim that it didn’t meet your standards. I am but the arbiter of truth, and in telling you that Obama is NOT one of us, I maintained that standard.

            You may call me any of the common terms that I see liberals on this site use when they do not like what didn’t match their views: “Racist,” “bigot,” “imposing your views,” “tirades” … ad nauseam.

            You are intelligent, but decidedly intellectually dishonest. I truly hurt for the thousands of youth that have sat through lectures, and been misled away from American values (i.e., hard work, capitalism, love of our Constitutional Republic, the rule of law) into Marxism by teachers with your secular-humanistic values.

            You have taught students that good grades are less important than self-esteem, thereby participating in the decline of our nation from the #1 position in international ranking in intellectual prowess (1962), to the present position of being #25.

            You (or those of your mindset) have taught students that this was never a Christian nation, and that our founding fathers were not Christians. You (or those of your mindset) rejoiced at the “freedom” from Christian values in our public schools with the Arkansas Decision (1967), and the replacing of the same with the religion of secular-humanists: the Theory of Evolution.

            As a consequence, we have raised generations of secularists who openly hate Christians (who hate no one) and derided those who practice their faith and patriotism, as being those “who cling to their religion and their guns.” NONSENCE!

            The world you have created is about to devour the very freedoms that have protected your rights to teach this revisionist version of American history. In essence, you will have destroyed the nation that gave you sustenance.

            Make no mistake about it. When Obama spoke of fundamentally transforming this nation, it was the words of an alien of heart, not those of a patriot. He wrongly believes that sins of the past against people of color can somehow be reconciled by economic punishment of people of today. It is impossible for anyone today to apologize to someone long dead. Nor do those of this generation owe apologies for what someone of past generations may have done wrong. We are each judged for our own behavior, and that alone.

            Once again, and finally, I tell you that America DOES NOT require “fundamental transformation,” as Obama envisions it. It requires, yes desperately needs, a return to faith in the Creator God that generations of Americans worshiped in those myriad hosts of churches on corners all across this great nation. Far from being the centers of racism, bigotry, and small-mindedness many on this website attribute to them, they were, and remain sources of love, security, strength, and mental health. They are centers of worship of the God who gave America to the world as a gift. They are centers of teaching about the God who gave his son to us all as His gift — perfect, and lacking nothing. They welcome all who seek God, and refuse none.

            Those that reject the love of God are spiritually bankrupt, and that is the worst kind of poverty. It is self-imposed poverty! The present economic disaster is merely a reflection of the spiritual condition of our nation. The correlation is direct and inescapable.

          • dtgraham

            Well, I’m certainly glad that “God gave America to the world as a gift.” Canadians have always valued the great friendship that they have with their American brothers and sisters to the south. Better friends one could not ask for, but they never imagined that their American friends were pre-ordained to them as a gift from God.

            Now, if Canada has to share their U.S. friendship with the rest of the world divinely, that kind of cheapens things…..you gotta admit. They kind of thought that they had something special going on, but if America really feels that it needs to see other people—–well……fine.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            The “better friends one could not ask for” is the aspect of your observation I will address. There is a reason for everything? The reason that America was such a friend (say, as opposed to Germany in WWI & WWII) was that we had a society based upon the principles within our faith that did not allow us to come and steal. We were not the invader from the south, but the neighbor in time of need. Together, we sent our soldiers into harm’s way to stop the intrusive dictatorships (in various places and times) and we cherished freedoms. Canada and America have always remained friends.

            As time went by, we corrected our missteps, and plotted new courses. What you may have missed is that America (a Christian nation – regardless of revisionist historians’ pipe dream) held fast to the faith that founded this nation.

            In time of impasse, Benjamin Franklin called for prayer, and “Congress” (as it existed in that time) followed this suggestion, and all the members joined. The result was the successful drafting of our founding documents. To support the fact that America was founded by Christian men and women, history is replete with their words. Perfect they were not. Humans never are. BUT, they had a faith that demanded introspection, humility, and yes — repentance from selfishness and love for others.

            However, with the abandonment of godly principles, America is changing, and left on the present course, will founder the ship of state. As the creator of Titanic stated to young Rose, “she will sink.”

            There is no guarantee that an America without the “secret sauce” of faith in the God of the Bible will either survive, or be recognizable to even a long term neighbor such as Canada.

            Make no mistake about it. The founding fathers of the United States had no doubt that they were creating a “nation under God” that would exist to be a blessing to the whole world. It DOES NOT require “fundamental transformation” unless that is narrowly defined as a return to the faith in the God of the Bible that guided those who gave us the Constitution. Study early American history (in books NOT prepared by revisionist historians of Marxist slant) and you will learn what you might never have known regarding America. It is indeed a gift from God.

          • JREX_TheRexReport

            The “better friends one could not ask for” is the aspect of your observation I will address. There is a reason for everything? The reason that America was such a friend (say, as opposed to Germany in WWI & WWII) was that we had a society based upon the principles within our faith that did not allow us to come and steal. We were not the invader from the south, but the neighbor in time of need. Together, we sent our soldiers into harm’s way to stop the intrusive dictatorships (in various places and times) and we cherished freedoms. Canada and America have always remained friends.

            As time went by, we corrected our missteps, and plotted new courses. What you may have missed is that America (a Christian nation – regardless of revisionist historians’ pipe dream) held fast to the faith that founded this nation.

            In time of impasse, Benjamin Franklin called for prayer, and “Congress” (as it existed in that time) followed this suggestion, and all the members joined. The result was the successful drafting of our founding documents. To support the fact that America was founded by Christian men and women, history is replete with their words. Perfect they were not. Humans never are. BUT, they had a faith that demanded introspection, humility, and yes — repentance from selfishness and love for others.

            However, with the abandonment of godly principles, America is changing, and left on the present course, will founder the ship of state. As the creator of Titanic stated to young Rose, “she will sink.”

            is no guarantee that an America without the “secret sauce” of faith in the God of the Bible will either survive, or be recognizable to even a long term neighbor such as Canada.

            Make no mistake about it. The founding fathers of the United States had no doubt that they were creating a “nation under God” that would exist to be a blessing to the whole world. It DOES NOT require “fundamental transformation” unless that is narrowly defined as a return to the faith in the God of the Bible that guided those who gave us the Constitution. Study early American history (in books NOT prepared by revisionist historians of Marxist slant) and you will learn what you might never have known regarding America. It is indeed a gift from God.

    • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OLT3BBICDAFJXQAHHKXXLJUCH4 Stella53

      Sorry JRex; but you are a bigot. The fact that you had to identify the people you listed by their race (black) and that you “wanted a true black man for our president,” makes you a bigot, sir. If I had said “I wanted Obama to win because he’s black,” you would have every right to label me a bigot. See where ya went wrong?

      • Fred Roven

        This conversation started with a statement made on the record that was a clear lie. Doesn’t pointing out that Cuccinelli was low on facts and just made up data end the conversation for all involved (including Cuccinelli)?

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        Thanks for telling me. Now let me tell you something.

        The problem with politically correct types is that you do NOT love truth.

        You really do not know me!

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        Why do label Obama as black? He is just a guy with a great tan as far as I can see. Why all the racism from you liberals? What percentage of African blood makes a man black? Who cares? I don’t.

        Here is a giant hint: read the post I was replying to. You will see the bigot. That should explain the use of color attributes in my post. (Go read it!)

        I am one of the good guys, and not your enemy at all. Remember: BE HONEST!!!!

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        Stella53, you left our racist! Don’t forget that part of your arsenal whenever you wish to diminish someone you disagree with.

        Let’s see… Bigot? DEFINED:

        “One who is narrrowly or intolerantly devoted to his or her opinions and prejudices. This word is a general term that applies to everyone (racists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, misogynists, homophobes and xenophobes).
        Just as whites can be bigots, so can blacks, browns and yellows.”

        I suppose that there are also pink bigots. I never met one of those. Why don’t you call me a “bigot of color.” That has a nice politically-correct ring to it.

      • JREX_TheRexReport

        Nah!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_4HKCTSVHCQJCJUU2VYCERLWWDE Richie T

    You LOST, get over it.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OLT3BBICDAFJXQAHHKXXLJUCH4 Stella53

    Sore losers! Deal with it!

  • JREX_TheRexReport

    patuxant, You see what you want to see.

  • Mimi2kool

    These people really do believe the nonsense that comes out of their mouths. What they really mean is that Obama won because they were not able to suppress the Democratic vote.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JCDYOUQPDL6RBF2WIQY7IHJ4BM batavier

    Young, presentable, well-dressed and VACUOUS TO THE CORE!

    Is it true that Law Schools and their teachings are in any way, remotely or idealistically, focused on FAIRNESS?

    • JREX_TheRexReport

      Used to be! Now?

  • emadis41

    And Republican pigs can fly!!
    Let me tell you that the red states did not ask for voters IDs. Instead they gerrymandered they way into keeping these states under Republican control.

    • Sierra111

      The Republican gerrymandering in Pennsylvania was horrible! Hence, the proposed redistricting maps were not approved by the PA Supreme Court!.

  • http://www.facebook.com/mary.gelfond Mary Gelfond

    Cuccinelli is an idiot. I live in Virginia and often wonder how this man was elected. It’s a good thing he has Noah Well to cover for CYOA. In a democracy the “people” vote for a president. Once the election is over, “we” are supposed to respect the presidency even if we don’t care for the man (or woman). The election is over and still the rhetoric goes on and on and ………..

  • onedonewong

    Voter fraud was alive and well in Va. For some reason the author fails to talk about the DC democratic organization that was mailing out the forms so that VA residents cold take advantage of the absentee ballot. Funny thing 10′s of thousands of these applications went to illegals, pets, the dead and felons who can’t vote. Think barak and Holder will go after these folks?? Don’t hold your breath

    • Sierra111

      The only voter fraud I heard about in Virginia was the Republican campaign worker who threw out a lot of voter registration forms because they were registering as Democrats. The is in serious criminal trouble.

      • onedonewong

        Guess you don’t read much

        • Sierra111

          I just don’t watch Fox News which has admitted in a Federal lawsuit in Florida that it lies in its broadcasts.

  • ChristianMartin

    The reasons the Republican party lost my support (and many others as well) to the Liberatarian Party is summed up up fairly well by the Democrats. A fake,failed,and self-serving (not to mention unconstitutional) drug war; a fascist,dictator-like approach to the abortion issue; and an unreasonable approach to immigration reform which seems to show preferential treatment of certain races/ethnicities. Even their miserable and violent so called drug war (thinly veiled term for subjugation) seems to blatantly target minorities and poor people. The Republicans are losing support of the conservative voters with their fundamentalist downward spiral and they just don’t seem to “get it”. Furthermore, if they continue keep their heads buried up their own arse while spitting poison they will eventually cause irrepairable damage to the Christian faith (if they already havn’t).

  • northroader1775

    I totally agree and I have to say they are doing great harm…maybe permanent harm to real christian faith. Actually most religion is getting trounced in public debate these days, but having a pack of raving idiots screaming and kicking to get their way and using the Bible to justify their views is really getting old. I think that if the GOP doesn’t make the right call (get rid of the morons) they are going to die as a party.

  • Sierra111

    All the voter fraud has been done by Republicans, not Democrats. Republicans like this guy are going to destroy the Republican Party by the next presidential election.

  • http://twitter.com/bernicepoli Bernice Polizzotto

    Okay, people what ever happened to backing our President. We have a President who is willing to do unpopular things to ensure that we all get a fair, even shake. Lets give the man the support he deserves, there is a lot of work to be done. Bitter Republicans need to admit the election was the will of 53% of Americans, obviously we support the President and his agenda. It’s time to respect him and how hard he works for the American people. The GOP would eliminate the middle class and put most of us in the poor house, thank God we don’t have Romney as our President.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_ISFCM4UUT2XFC5DNT6OH5DW33A JOE

    Kay F Ferguson you sound like a very sick person, you forgot that Bush started the wars not Obama, you and the rest of the whining republicans want to blame Obama for what Bush did

  • http://www.facebook.com/jerry.beck.9659 Jerry Beck

    Two things. One,will the people in the GOP ever give up and admit they lost??? Two,what voter fraud? I have yet to see where any wide spread fraud has been proven.

  • JREX_TheRexReport

    in response to dtgraham:

    The “better friends one could not ask for” is the aspect of your observation I will address. There is a reason for everything? The reason that America was such a friend (say, as opposed to Germany in WWI & WWII) was that we had a society based upon the principles within our faith that did not allow us to come and steal. We were not the invader from the south, but the neighbor in time of need. Together, we sent our soldiers into harm’s way to stop the intrusive dictatorships (in various places and times) and we cherished freedoms. Canada and America have always remained friends.

    As time went by, we corrected our missteps, and plotted new courses. What you may have missed is that America (a Christian nation – regardless of revisionist historians’ pipe dream) held fast to the faith that founded this nation.

    In time of impasse, Benjamin Franklin called for prayer, and “Congress” (as it existed in that time) followed this suggestion, and all the members joined. The result was the successful drafting of our founding documents. To support the fact that America was founded by Christian men and women, history is replete with their words. Perfect they were not. Humans never are. BUT, they had a faith that demanded introspection, humility, and yes — repentance from selfishness and love for others.

    However, with the abandonment of godly principles, America is changing, and left on the present course, will founder the ship of state. As the creator of Titanic stated to young Rose, “she will sink.”

    There is no guarantee that an America without the “secret sauce” of faith in the God of the Bible will either survive, or be recognizable to even a long term neighbor such as Canada.

    Make no mistake about it. The founding fathers of the United States had no doubt that they were creating a “nation under God” that would exist to be a blessing to the whole world. It DOES NOT require “fundamental transformation” unless that is narrowly defined as a return to the faith in the God of the Bible that guided those who gave us the Constitution. Study early American history (in books NOT prepared by revisionist historians of Marxist slant) and you will learn what you might never have known regarding America. It is indeed a gift from God.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZHFTB6X3AZPE4ZKUA5ZP4BGWSM A j CARIAGA jr

    +
    VOTER FRAUD IS IN THE GOP! GOP IS FLATLY OUTNUMBERED BY DEMOS! GOP WILL NEVER WIN BY MEMBER ONLY VOTES! SWING VOTE WILL NOW BE FOREVER WITH THE DEMOS. GOP HAVE BECOME WELL KNOWN DISGUSTING FRAUDULENT KAPPAS! VOTER SUPPRESSANT! OMG THAT IS SO 1950s, HERE”’S A TAX FOR YOU ……..VOTER TAX! FOOLS!

  • Michelle Rose

    Oooh, let them! Let them think it was voter fraud! Can they prove it? (No) Can they cite ONE instance where fraudulent votes occurred? (No) So let them chase that will ‘o the wisp and while they’re at it, the rest of us can clean up the mess they left behind.

    I’m just speculating here but I think that–to a Republican–Democrat means “fraudulent voter.” Somewhere down in that dark basement of right-wing thinking is the notion that being Democrat means being un-American, as if Republicans were the only “true” Americans.

    Let them pursue that thread until they drop from exhaustion. Let them expend all their energy in pursuing phantoms. Let them blow all their resources in attempting to prove something that is not provable. They’ll have less energy to fight real battles.

  • JREX_TheRexReport

    • Well, this certainly has been a revealing conversation — not about the grace of God, but about you. So, I close with the following quote. It speaks well of you:
    • 3 Dear friends, I had been eagerly planning to write to you about the salvation we all share. But now I find that I must write about something else, urging you to defend the faith that God has entrusted once for all time to his holy people. 4 I say this because some ungodly people have wormed their way into your churches, saying that God’s marvelous grace allows us to live immoral lives. The condemnation of such people was recorded long ago, for they have denied our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
    5 So I want to remind you, though you already know these things, that Jesus first rescued the nation of Israel from Egypt, but later he destroyed those who did not remain faithful. 6 And I remind you of the angels who did not stay within the limits of authority God gave them but left the place where they belonged. God has kept them securely chained in prisons of darkness, waiting for the great day of judgment. 7 And don’t forget Sodom and Gomorrah and their neighboring towns, which were filled with immorality and every kind of sexual perversion. Those cities were destroyed by fire and serve as a warning of the eternal fire of God’s judgment.
    Jude 1:3-7

    Makes it simple, doesn’t it! As a matter of fact, based upon your expressions, and what we learn above, it seems obvious that you have a very warm future.

    You see, when I told you that it is not a social gospel, it meant that the Gospel is not a democracy. You do not come to God and say “Let’s make a deal.” You come to God, and He says “This is the deal!” Jude warns you openly. Could it be more clear?

  • rothgar

    The attitude so admirably demonstrated in your last message is IMHO exactly why the number of self-identified atheists was quintupled in the last 22 years. It is this attitude and the hypocrisy that seems to go with it that chased most of my family away from the church any Church. It was this attitude that nearly caused me to reverse myself and deny Jesus.

    It was the work and words of real loving open minded Christians: Rev. Jim Wallis (Sojourners), Rev. G. Boyd, and Rev. B. MacLaren (the Secret Message of Christ) and others that reminded me that Christ was neither small minded nor self righteous he wanted us to love our neighbors and help them as much as possible. Your message seems like so many others that I came to dispise in the last decade who try to use the Bible to demonize those they hate . If your God hates the same people you do and you are sure of that he hates them then perhaps you are worshipping your own image of God.

    You said he was a pervert not I , this is your hang-up not mine. If it turns out to be the case that’s cool by me. You’ve assumed that practices that you dislike are immoral, perverted etc.

    This was such a minor part of my discourse it is annoying that it is the only thing youve chosen to focus on.

    P.S. I finished my most recent read of the entire Bible in 2011. I probably ought to start over but my workload has been too high and I didn’t want to leave my NIV in a SCIF.

    • JREX_TheRexReport

      Rothgar, regardless of the intentional ignoring of the plain reading of the Book which you you again and again demonstrated, or your ridiculous attributions to my words, no one hates the sinners. I was merely quoting the Word to you. Your problem is the fact that you read it and call it”obscure” because it offends your rebellious heart. It is plain to see that you are intentionally blind. The warnings are as true as the rewards. It depends on you, which of them will come to you.

      I have all of your words before me, and it is plain to see what you wrote. Your attribution to the Son of God (and his disciples) as being perverted are your own words, not mine. At least have the courage to own them, or better yet, change course while you still breathe.

      Your words are perverse, and your intentional failure to merely obey what is plain to understand will cost what you cannot pay. You spit in the face of Grace. Grace loved you so much that He left heaven to come here to find you. I loved you enough to warn you, and not only you, but all who have followed this conversation.

      As an addendum, I tell you that good works (kindness, love toward others, honest interactions, and hard work to help others) are expected, but do NOT earn salvation. If you neglect the latter, the former will be of no use on judgment day. The fact is that God judges sin, and only in Christ are people forgiven, with the record wiped clean! You of all people (it would seem) should know the second half of the verse where Jesus, after telling the “woman caught in adultery” that neither did he condemn her, instructed her with words that seem to cause the rebellion of this generation: “go and sin no more.”

      The Creator is real, and regardless whether you “believe” or not, we all will stand before Him in accountability. At that time, there will be only one answer that is correct to pass the test. All others will be found wanting. Don’t pass up this free gift. It cost the Creator everything to make it available!

    • JREX_TheRexReport

      You deny Him every day. Wallis, Boyd & MacLaren are not your hope for Salvation, and Him (who should be), you called homosexual. What hope would you have left? If the Book is not you authority (and it obviously is not), I guess you are down to good works? Before you hang your hope on that, try Eph. 2:8-9. Your politically correct philosophy may make you very popular here, but can’t get you eternal life. Repent! Your words are vile.

      • rothgar

        You’ve assumed that because you see homosexuality as a slur that Jesus or more importantly Father God does as well. I don’t think that is necessarily so. We will know soon enough. Even if sexual orientation is solely a choice how or why does God wire part of his creation to make this choice? All I said was that homophobes could have a real surprise in store. If he is as I hypothesized then all of your homophobia is going to look pathetic. You’ve assumed “Homosexual Offender” means anyone that acts on same-sex tendencies which is not the necessarily the case. If he is Gay the problem is yours not his. My salvation does not require him to meet my preconceived notions of what God thinks is right, I’ve met his as best as I can.

        I’m done with wasting time on you I’ve got real work to do. I’d suggest you try some counseling for those temptations you seem to be hiding but that would be judgmental.

        Don’t bother me anymore.

        Thank you.

        • dtgraham

          I’ve been following this debate for quite a while. If you’ve saved your posts I think you and JREX have enough material by now to co-publish a textbook for theology students.

        • JREX_TheRexReport

          You wrote: “those temptations you seem to be hiding …” Allow me to answer that. Not in this lifetime, pal! On the other hand, it is obvious that what you have continuously done is what we call “projection.” The perversity is only within you, not Jesus, not John, not Paul, and finally, not me.

          You also wrote: “You’ve assumed that because you see homosexuality as a slur that Jesus or more importantly Father God does as well.” FACT CHECK: I merely (continuously) quoted the Book. You, on the other hand, most obviously refuse to 1) believe it, or 2) abide by it as authoritative!

          By the way, I have patiently attempted to help you to understand that your version of Christianity is not that of the Bible. Please stop calling yourself a Christian. You lead other lost people astray and judgment will follow. “What you have done to one of the least of these, my little ones, you have done to me.” — Jesus

          • rothgar

            I’ve ignored your implied claims I am gay. No big deal. Almost artistic enough but definitely not interested. However, Methinks the lady doth protest too much!

            I can even overlook your implicit claims that several mainline Protestant denominations (UCC, ELCA, Quakers, Episcopal, and Anglicans) are cults in your comment that if my Pastor agreed with my assessment I was in a cult. Nice work that. It must be fun to be so tightly linked into the thoughts of God that when whole religious denominations disagree with you view they are obviously cults. Wow!

            It was when you mangled and disparaged the words of Christ that I was compelled to reply. First, your sanctimonious quote above “What you have done to one of the least of these, my little ones, you have done to me” is not in either the story of Christ and the Little Children (Matt 19:14) or the Story of the Sheep and Goats (Matt 25:31-46). It appears that you have conjoined two quotes that are separated by 7 chapters. Wow that’s some quoting there.

            Second, you’ve disparaged his words by claiming that your opinion of his behavior is more important than his words. In John 14:23 I find a complete quote saying that it is following Christ’s teachings that is important not my opinion of his behavior; 23 ”Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.” Again in this quote Jesus Christ says nothing about my need to believe any homophobic or idyllic clap-trap about his life. I need to obey his teachings which my revised listing of the sins of modern American culture does quite consistently with his teachings as far as I can tell.

            Interestingly, I got this reference from my very conservative Southern Baptist Pastor in a sermon after I decided to take your previous claims seriously enough to ask about them in prayer. Almost instantaneously our Pastor quoted the above verse from John. So now is John the Apostle was wrong too?

            I will stick to my assertion that many homophobic, right-wing, comfortably positioned clients of the American Religion industry (as you appear to be from your words) are likely to find yourselves in a very awkward position when real judgment comes.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=604487679 Scott Sloan

    Looks like someone needs a big slice of Get Over It pie to go with his hot cup of STFU

    • JREX_TheRexReport

      What part offended you: the honor, or the integrity?

  • JREX_TheRexReport

    What ID is required to cash a welfare check? Regardless, if there is cheating, it isn’t largely in multiple voting by the same individual, but rather in the electronic voting machines, themselves. The problem for all Americans is there is no longer a verifiable paper trail to guarantee a true recount.

    Which of us does not own a computer? Which of us does not know by experience the importance of anti-intrusion, and anti-virus software? Well, as of the 2012 election cycle, we should be aware that fully half of the votes were counted by electronic machines under the exclusive control of someone who 1) does NOT reside within the boundaries of the United States, and 2) is NOT an American citizen. If that fact does not cause concern, then we all deserve to lose the freedoms so hard fought for by our ancestors. Tyranny is on the horizon.

    Honor and integrity should be the major singular concern for every American at every election, regardless of party affiliation. Politics must NOT ever be allowed to control the integrity of the election machinery. We are Americans, we (regardless of ideology) must commit to 100% fairness in the preservation of our election system, and that written in stone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/alexpcs Alex Pummer

    sorry my memory is not so good any more, but I vaguely remember one other case, not to long time ego, a looked pretty much like fraud helped somebody to defeat a former democratic vice president who was running for presidency, please could you help my memory with the name of that fellow?

    • JREX_TheRexReport

      Do you have the details of the fraud you mention?

    • dtgraham

      Al Gore.

  • rothgar

    LOL

  • Sierra111

    Two dimwits on radio. Unfortunately, our freedom of speech allows people to lie and lie and lie. By the way, did they mention the REPUBLICAN campaign worker who got caught in VA throwing away registration forms for Democrats? Of course not. Cover that one up.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_3WBTMJTJTKZB7YBPNMMPWMV5TI Minell

    Don’t suggest it, prove it bone head. If this was true you would prove it. Being a repub you don’t have to prove it, just say it. Didn’t you approve the results?

  • smilelaugh

    Bla Bla Bla is all I hear from these people. I wish they would grow up, accept life as it is and move on. They are so stuck in the fact that a black democrat beat them, not once but twice they cannot stand it.

  • JSquercia

    Doesn’t Ken have some new law on restricting a women’s right to an abortion to draft . Of course the Party’s War on Women paid off BIG Time ; for Obama .

    Voter Id didn’t work next try is to change from a winner take all state to a state where the Gerrymandered Congressional districts provide for electors . Romney would have won Virginia based on that . These BASTARDS can’t win an Honest Election

  • jstsyn

    “there is little reason to imagine a Republican takeover of the White House.”
    Unless they cheat well enough.

    • blobclark

      cheat heck. We dont have the dead voting in chicago ? nope that is a Democrap trick.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_OLT3BBICDAFJXQAHHKXXLJUCH4 Stella53

    Just another delusional republican in deep denial and talking out the side of his mouth. Nothing to see here.

  • CPAinNewYork

    Our elected officials are a bunch of scumbags.

  • ococoob

    Where’s the proof? There has been NO case in the entire U.S. adjudicated for voter fraud anywhere! If anything, voter suppression anywhere is the BIGGEST FRAUD OF ALL!

  • atc333

    Gotta love those Right Wing Republicans!

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