By Jason Sattler

40 Years After Roe, Many Women Still Lack Choices

January 22, 2013 4:05 pm Category: Memo Pad 100 Comments A+ / A-
40 Years After Roe, Many Women Still Lack Choices

On January 22, 1973, the Supreme Court decided by a 7-2 margin that a woman has a right to an abortion.

Forty years later, though 70 percent of Americans support the court’s decision in Roe v. Wade, 87 percent of counties in the United States do not have one clinic that offers legal abortions, and several states have just one clinic. Those who operate the clinics often do so enduring constant protests and the threat of imminent violence.

Despite this, an estimated 1 in 3 women have had an abortion. And that number might be even higher if abortion were made illegal, as countries that ban the procedure report higher instances of abortion.

The so-called pro-life movement that came to being by drawing evangelicals into the Republican Party has failed in its central goal of overturning Roe. But it has succeeded in politicizing access to basic reproductive health care.

Since the Republican wave election of 2010, pro-lifers have gone into overdrive, passing 135 new laws restricting a woman’s right to choose and targeting Planned Parenthood, the largest provider of reproductive health care for women.

While Planned Parenthood — which has been supported in the past by Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Republicans like Barry Goldwater, and funded by the federal government since the Nixon administration — does perform abortions, it receives funding only to provide basic health care. Despite this, defunding the group has become an obsession of the right.

Governor Rick Perry of Texas is costing his state $250 million and depriving thousands of women of their basic health care provider just to keep federal funds from going to Planned Parenthood in Texas, though they perform no abortions at all.

Being stridently anti-abortion rights is a safe position in most red states. However, when Senate candidates Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock articulated in inarticulate ways the Republican Party’s position — that abortion should be illegal even in the case of rape — they ended up losing their races in states where Mitt Romney won easily.

Only 9 percent of Americans support making abortion illegal without exception, the position of Akin, Mourdock and Romney’s former running mate and one of the frontrunners for the 2016 GOP presidential nomination — Paul Ryan.

In addition to opposing abortion, most Republicans also oppose the Affordable Care Act mandate that all women should be provided free birth control as part of their health insurance coverage. The fact that abortion activists also oppose what will be the most comprehensive effort to prevent unwanted pregnancies in American history suggests that the pro-life movement includes many who simply seek to restrict a woman’s choice to operate with the sexual freedom of a man.

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  • http://twitter.com/MortAlcoil1 Mort Alcoil

    Cue the deluge of comments from fringe religious types, frothing at the mouth about how a clump of 8 cells has more rights than a fully formed adult Female.

    • dtgraham

      It’s bad enough that a woman can’t abort that clump of cells after discovering she’s missed her period. They go much further than that. The personhood amendment is now huge and taking the morning after pill the next day is apparently killing a baby. I’m with Chris Mathews on this, and a Bill Maher “new rule” needs to be established whenever a rabid pro lifer wants to rant. You’re not allowed to unless you tell us what you think the criminal penalty should be for a woman (and her doctor?) who has an abortion, or takes the so called morning after pill. You say it’s murder and killing a baby? Fair enough. Then tell us what should happen to the woman, and please be specific. 25 years to life? Capital punishment? What should it be? After all, it’s murder right? If you’re not in favour of any of those punishments, then tell us why not.

      You say you don’t want to be that harsh and it should possibly merit only 6 months in jail or a fine. Ok, then it’s not a baby or human life that we’re talking about then if that’s the only penalty. It must be something less. What is it then and why?

      Remember, you have to tell us what the criminal penalty should be for a woman who has an abortion, and what should happen to her if you’re anti-choice.

      We have to know.

      • lana ward

        In the Old Testament, law commanded the death penalty for -murder -Exodus21:12,, kidnapping-Ex.21:16,,bestiality-Ex.22:19,,adultry-Lev.20:10,, homosexuality-Lev.20:13,, being a false prophet-Deut.13:5, prostitution and rape-Deut.22:24 and several other crimes. Romans 13:1-7. Genesis 9:6. It was a sad day in our country, a proud country, when the supreme court said it is legal to murder unborn babies. The women wouldn’t get abortions if there weren’t drs. to perform them. The drs. should get the death penalty. They are murderers!!!

        • english_teacher

          Answer the question. What should the criminal penalty be for a woman who has an abortion and what should happen to her?

          We’re all waiting.

          • lana ward

            Now days women use abortion as a means of birth control. If you murder one baby, you get a warning. Your second abortion, mandatory you get your tubes tied and 6 months in jail. In Bible times, you would get a death sentence for that murder

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZJ5BBSQIGTUMERPZFALES6HQNY Bill

            Lana “Psycho” Ward quoting the bible has no effect on what the “LAW” is. Also I find if ironic that the so-called religious people like you are the most mean-spirited people on this website. Also quoting from some parts of the bible and not others is just cherry picking items and not presenting the whole picture.

          • english_teacher

            Thank you for answering the question. We now know what a hateful, vindictive, self-righteous, pathetic person you are. For your information, women have always used abortion as a means of birth control. It just wasn’t a safe surgical procedure that is legal under the law. I hope when your karma arrives that it gives you a taste of the hatred that you have expressed.

          • lana ward

            And you teach our kids?? God help us!!

          • lana ward

            I have hate because I don’t believe in murdering unborn babies?? That makes sense!!

          • english_teacher

            Your kids should be so lucky to have me for a teacher.

          • lana ward

            Cold blooded murderer!! You should be made to look at an aborted baby, then be forced to hold it!! Heartless bitch!!

          • english_teacher

            Actually I’ve seen the results of an actual abortion. Have you? It’s about a pint of red liquid in a jar. There is no baby to hold.

          • lana ward

            There’s a baby to hold when you’re farther along. I’ve seen pictures and that was too much!!

          • english_teacher

            You keep changing your story to fit your bias. 88% of women having abortions have them within the first 12 weeks, thus what you would see is the red liquid. Late-term abortions are rare and are severely restricted by law. The Supreme Court has ruled that late-term abortions may be performed when necessary to preserve the woman’s life or health. The Court has also made clear in other cases that viability is a medical determination, which varies with each pregnancy, and that it is the responsibility of the attending physician to make that determination. Don’t come back to me saying the doctors are lying unless you have statistics from a reliable source that support your statement. It’s just your opinion based on hearsay, anti-choice propaganda, and bunk.

          • lana ward

            Murder is murder. I don’t remember where I saw it. Doctors turning the baby around so it will be born feet first, then stopping his head from coming out and jabbing him in the back of the neck so he will be dead when his head comes out. And that’s for the life of the mother!! Anyone with any sense doesn’t believe that. That is cold blooded murder

          • english_teacher

            Was the mother’s life in danger? Are you a doctor? Do you know what procedures are used to perform a late-term abortion? You already said that if the mother’s life was in danger, then the mother takes priority over the fetus. You can’t have it both ways. You can’t project your opinions on to a situation where you know nothing of the details behind the procedure that you saw or of what the appropriate medical procedures are to carry out that operation.

          • lana ward

            The baby will be born dead or alive. How can it help the mother being born dead??? Holding his head inside would be worse on her.

          • dtgraham

            You’ve now lost the right to call it a baby Lana. In law there’s no such thing as a warning after being convicted of murdering a baby. There’s also no such thing as 6 months in jail for murdering a second child. It must be something less than that. What is it?

            By the way, if a woman takes a drug that prevents a newly fertilized egg from attaching to the uterus and flushes it out with the normal menstrual cycle, is that an abortion—and therefore murder? Mike Huckabee thinks so and got Mitt Romney to sign on to that on his show.

          • lana ward

            If left alone to grow, what will it be? A frog??

          • dtgraham

            IF left alone to grow. IF being the key word. Every single one of my sperm can eventually grow to become a child as can every one of your eggs. You’re bringing to life that old Monty Python skit, ‘every sperm is sacred’. The personhood amendment is clearly taking it too far. One might also say that about abortion in, at least, the earlier stages of pregnancy but that’s another argument.

            Lana, I do give you credit for answering a question that virtually all pro lifers won’t answer. You were straight up and honest and true to your convictions.

          • lana ward

            You answer the question, do you believe in murdering unborn babies?? Do think God approves??

          • english_teacher

            I don’t believe that it’s murdering unborn babies. For me, bringing a child into the world under bad circumstances is immoral. It violates my moral and spiritual values. Whose god decides?

            Now it’s your turn to answer the question.

          • lana ward

            Abortion is murder. If left alone, what would it be when born?–a frog? If you are living in bad circumstances, don’t get pregnant. If you do, put the baby up for adoption, don’t murder it. It should have just as much a right to live as you do!! It is immoral to murder!!

          • english_teacher

            Such sanctimony. If you really want to stop abortions, then support family planning. No, the life of the zygote does not take precedence over the life of a woman. If you think it does, then I guess you agreed it would have been better for that woman in Arizona to die when her life was threatened by her pregnancy due to pulmonary hypertension. This woman already had four children. Is it better to leave four children without their mother rather than perform a life-saving abortion? If you agree, then you are the cold-blooded murderer. I feel sorry for you.

          • lana ward

            If the life of the mother is a stake, then I would choose the mother. Most times when Drs. say the mother may die, they’re lying. They want that money!!

          • english_teacher

            How do you know that most doctors are lying when they say the mother may die? Do you have any of those pesky statistics that support your statement or is this another of your opinions?

          • english_teacher

            Also, how do you know that most doctors want the money? What have you based your statement on other than your bias?

        • english_teacher

          You are typical of the rabid, right-wing anti-choicers. No logic. Just religious cant. Where to begin and I truly don’t know why I’m even bothering.

          How do you know that women wouldn’t get abortions if there weren’t doctors to perform them? Based on what statistics? Women were aborting for centuries before there were doctors to do a safe surgical procedure. Folk knowledge. Women have always had abortions. Not all abortions were safe. Too many women died from botched abortions by unqualified providers or self-infliction.

          Are you telling us that the life of a living, breathing actual woman, either just starting out in life or already with family responsibilities, is less important than a clump of cells that might, if everything goes exactly as it should, one day turn into a living viable human being?

          I dare you to answer that question. I know you won’t. It doesn’t fit your talking points and it would require that you actually think this situation through.

          Abortion is a legal operation. You and your hateful, unChristian compatriots should just be quiet. In the end, you don’t enter the equation. It’s between the woman and her god, whoever that god may be. To try to enter the equation is incredibly arrogant on your part in your assumption that you and you alone knows what god says. may you be smited by your god for your arrogance.

          • lana ward

            What about the babys’ rights. It’s a child, not a choice. If there were no abortion Drs., women just might be alittle more careful. Right now , they use it as a means of birth control!!! English teacher? You must be a communist, teaching our kids to hate America. That’s why so many kids are home schooled. Women that died during an abortion- that may be their punishment for murdering their baby

          • english_teacher

            The fetus’s rights do not have precedence over those of a woman. Until it reaches viability, the fetus can be scientifically considered a parasite.

        • neeceoooo

          I just can’t resist this Lana, if you are so high and mighty and christian like, why do you hate (and remember hate is a very bad word that God does not like) our President so much. And remember God does not want us to hate, could it be the color of his skin?

          • lana ward

            I just can’t resist this neeceoooo, it’s the color of your skin

        • charleo1

          You’re not suggesting we impose religious law, are you Lana? There
          were a good number of States last year that felt it necessary to specifically
          ban Sharia Law. I personally don’t see the need for a law covering a
          subject the Constitution already addresses, and prohibits. But, if it gets
          the faithful off the golf courses, and bingo halls to the voting booth…
          But really, The Old Testament? You do know that, according to the Old
          Testament, Adam, and Eve’s family life read like the crime novels that
          the T.V. show, “Dateline,” is so famous for. “Adam and Eve started out
          in what could only be called Paradise!” “What could have gone so wrong
          for this couple, God literally did make for one another?” “And was it
          that fall from grace, that Adam kept blaming Eve for, that cause the rift
          that ended in one brother killing the other?” Here’s John Macklovitch,
          with, “Not a great start for mankind.”

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPL7LVHHKZXB3BKEJZNTKRMBYY Susan

          Lana, get help. Please, please get help. And do remember to tell your psychiatrist that you think a doctor should be put to death for performing a legal procedure.

          • lana ward

            A dr. should be put to death if he performs murder

          • lana ward

            Would you be able to look at a mangled baby that had been aborted?? How about holding it in your arms??

        • grammyjill

          The constitution also says you can keep your musket. How about moving your pea brain into this century.

          • lana ward

            Murder isn’t right in any century

          • grammyjill

            I’m sorry for you. A few cells does not a person make. It needs to cook a whole lot longer than that. I don’t really like abortion but do not want it taken away. If we let the republicans take this away, what’s next? So, even though I am not thrilled about it I will fight to keep it because if they are sucessful at taking one right away then there goes the rest of them.

          • lana ward

            This is exactly what will happen with the gun opponents. Give them an inch, they will take a mile

          • grammyjill

            The constitution says you have the right to bear arms within restrictions. I have heard all that the president and everyone else wants to do. None of it will take guns away. Just the large magazines that no one needs and actually upholding the laws that are already on the books. Yes I know the NRA is trying to frighten everyone that the president is going to take everyone’s guns away, but that is just not the case. There is already an assult weapons ban on the books. Since Clinton. Just not enforced. So, they are pushing for a new one. Yes it’s a little stricter But I think it needs to be. Gun owners are all for these new laws because they are all getting a bad name because of these mass shootings. I am not a gun owner, I don’t like loud noises. But I live in the same house as my brother who has many. He’s a hunter when he gets off his ass to go. I haven’t seen him with a gun in years. I don’t think any legal gun owner has to worry for a second about these gun laws. The crooks, gang members and crazies might have to worry though. But I think you would agree that it would be nice to keep them from getting guns.

          • lana ward

            How is omuslim going to get these guns from criminals?? We will be without them, but criminals will always have them. This is the beginning of a gun grab. Omuslim doesn’t want us to be able to defend ourselves from the Government

          • grammyjill

            The plan is to tighten the background checks and to stop the straw sellers. Do you know what they are? That’s the guy that can pass the background check buys lots of guns at a time then goes and sells them on the street to the bad guys that can’t get them leaglly. They are also going to stop people being able to sell guns and ammo over the internet and if there is gun shows there will have to be the background checks. None of these changes will stop a person from buying a gun as long as they can pass the check. So, you see he is not taking guns away, just trying to keep the wrong people from getting one.

          • lana ward

            Most women are using abortion as a means of birth control. That is sick!! That is murder!!

          • grammyjill

            Actually the abortion rate has dropped by 75% in the last ten years. Best way to stop abortion is to make contriception more affordable. Right now insurance does not cover it and it is very expensive. Women who can’t afford it usually go to Planned Parenthood where they can pay on a sliding scale but since the republicans are also trying to get rid of Planned Parenthood, mant women won’t be able to get contriception any more therefore the abortion rate will probably go up again and since it will be backroom deals, many women will die. I have one daughter that has a heart problem and cannot carry a baby. It would kill her. But the republicans want to make it so that she would have to do it. They would kill my baby. Another daughter knows she would not be a good mom. The sound of a baby crying sends her into a panic attack. She said how could she take care of a crying baby if she wouldn’t even be able to take care of herself. Neither daughter believes in abortion but if contriception is taken away, who can say.

          • lana ward

            There will always be exceptions for abortion, but it should never be done as a means of birth control. Birth control is alot less expensive than abortion. With all the money the gov. gives people, they can afford the pills. I don’t appreciate my taxes going for the murder of babies

          • grammyjill

            You really need to get your news from somewhere else. I don’t know where you think the government is giving money to people. If that were true there wouldn’t be so many homeless families. I wouldn’t be below poverty level!

          • lana ward

            I wonder why he is taxing us more then?? I thought that money would be going to the poor. I’m about at the poverty level myself!! That money is probably going to help muslims and illegals. They always get first priority over Americans!!!

          • grammyjill

            No dear. That money is going to pay for Iraq, Afghanistan, TARP, Medicare part D and everything else Bush put on the credit card. So, it’s paying down the debt. Hopefully it will pay it down enough so our country won’t have to borrow money from China to be able to pay our own bills soon. And no, muslims and illegals do not come first. Hell, even our first citizens (American Indians) don’t come before. Have you ever seen a reservation? You and I live in the lap of luxury compared to them. And illegals hide so there is no way to help them if you wanted to. And the muslims usually stick to their own culture and help their own. You really do get your news from the wrong places. Do you know anything true about  muslims? Except for a small bunch of crazies (like every culture has) they are very peaseful and loving people. So, try learning something on your own without the haters feeding you.

          • dtgraham

            If you say you’re about at the poverty level yourself, then what is it that makes you vote against your own economic self interest and vote Republican? Is it just a few religious wedge issues that the GOP pay lip service to that have influenced you? Is this mostly just gay marriage and abortion?

            To us here on the left, you’re our constituency Lana. We care about you, and others in your circumstances. We want you to have a decent life. The Republicans couldn’t give a rat’s behind about you and others like you.

            Why not put aside religious and ethnic prejudices and join us? You belong with us Lana. We’re the ones who actually care about you.

          • lana ward

            Check out–NACHUMLIST

          • dtgraham

            Lana, that list is so long that I thought it was the obituaries of every person who died in the United States in the last 5 years. So Obama personally had all those people murdered, proven by such legends of journalism like the World Net Daily, Glenn Beck, Breitbart, and others.

            This is the fringe, coocoo for cocoa puffs, far far political right. You must know that they would have equally fantastic stories about any Democrat in the White House and, conversely, would have nothing negative to report about any Republican President even if he were Vlad the Impaler. Do you remember Bill Clinton having Vince Foster killed (supposedly)? Remember any stories like that about W. in that wackaloon media? No? I thought not.

    • lana ward

      If that “clump of cells”is left alone, what will it be?? A frog?? You started out as a clump of cells!!!

      • http://twitter.com/MortAlcoil1 Mort Alcoil

        Sorry Lana; a lot of us aren’t Christians and therefore have no 2000 year old book of nonsense to be abjectly deluded by and we can make our own decisions. Your religious objection to abortion is duly noted and just as duly dismissed, since there is a separation of Church and State in this country that guarantees me freedom from the lunacy of religion..

        Don’t you have other things to do today? Like adopt 15 unwanted children that need to be fed and cared for and educated and so forth? Why are you wasting time posting on the Internet when there are so many children out there who need homes? Or are you just another sanctimonious Republican Christian who spouts platitudes and slogans, but never actually follows your own rules? Do as I say, not as I do applies especially to people like you.

        • neeceoooo

          Very well said.

        • lana ward

          You must be refering to omuslim, never following his own rules

          • http://twitter.com/MortAlcoil1 Mort Alcoil

            You mean Mr. President Obama the recently and duly elected President of the USA; one of only 2 Men to be elected President TWICE by more than 51% of the popular vote? You mean THAT President?

            You mean the President that has gone to the same exact CHRISTIAN CHURCH for the last 23 years? The same CHRISTIAN CHURCH that the Republicans say has an “activist” Pastor? You mean President Obama the long-term proven CHRISTIAN???

            So glad it sticks in your racist, insane craw that he won; the best revenge over.

          • lana ward

            In that “christian LOL” church, omuslim murdered 3 gay men in The Down Low Club. Check it out, communist lover

          • http://twitter.com/MortAlcoil1 Mort Alcoil

            HAHAHAHAA!!! You’re one of THEM, are you? A deluded, sick and twisted individual that invents pure lies, or at very least believes outright fantasy.

            You REALLY need to see a psychiatrist, what with your religious delusions and now these bizarre imaginings.

            So sad to see mental illness on public display, the way you are showing it to the World.

    • english_teacher

      You’re absolutely right. They’re going to come out from the rocks and crevices.

  • charleo1

    The issue of abortion is where all the Right Wing’s carping about a government that’s too big,
    and too intrusive, falls flat on it’s pious little face. When the government can insert itself
    into the private lives of it’s citizenry, and require an unwanted, and unnecessary medical
    procedures, prior to an operation the Supreme Court has clearly ruled as a private decision.
    Then there’s no place, and no limits, as to where that government may not go. And I think
    the majority of Americans settled this issue with themselves, and agree with the Court.
    They are not pro-abortion. But the alternative, where every pregnancy, and every miscarriage,
    and indeed every activity from inception, to conclusion could be subject to a government
    inquiry of the physician, the patient, her prenatal care, or the lack of it. The results would be
    many women, especially poor women, might decide to not seek out a doctor at all, for fear of
    the government. And this, from a Party who passed a law in Florida, that made it illegal for a doctor to ask a depressed, or otherwise unhinged individual about his/her access to a gun.
    Why? Because they didn’t think it was any of the government’s, or the doctor’s business.
    Go figure.

    • highpckts

      Even though our state, Ohio had a ruling by the states supreme court that the way the schools were funded was unconstitutional, the state government chose to ignore it! It will be the same with any state when it comes to abortion! They will set up their own rules and ignore Roe/Wade! They are already doing it!! These laws will not even be voted on by the people but jammed through by the legislator! I fail to see how this isn’t an arrestable offense!!

      • charleo1

        My State of Florida also has an unassailable Republican majority that ram
        clearly unConstitutional laws thru the legislature, only to spend hundreds
        of thousands of dollars trying to defend them in court. And losing. And, like
        the entire onslaught in 2010, ran promising jobs, job. and more jobs. After
        getting in, they passed laws requiring drug testing for public sector employees.
        Struck down by the Courts. A law prohibiting doctors from asking patients
        about their access to a gun. Struck down in the Courts. Wanted to fund
        religious schools with public funds. Struck down in Court. Voted to purge voter
        rolls, three months before the election. Struck down in Court. Wanted to
        have two State Supreme Courts. One deciding Civil matters. While the Governor
        hand picked a second Supreme Court to decide the Constitutionality of the laws.
        Struck down by the citizens of Florida, at the ballot box. Yes, we’re having
        just a peachy time down here!

    • ObozoMustGo

      Do doctors that treat depressed or unhinged people ask them about their access to ropes? They may hang themselves, you know. Do they ask them about their access to gasoline? Knives? Machetes? Fertilizer? Rat poison?

      One other question: Should the Feds pay for your birth control and your abortions? I suspect you believe they should. So how is it you want the taxpayers paying for your birth control and abortions, but somehow you want them to stay away from a woman’s body? Hmmmmmmmmm?????????????

      Have a nice day!

      “Ive noticed that everyone who is for abortion is already born.” – Ronald Reagan

      • charleo1

        I would assume the doctor could ask about ropes, knives, hand grenades, etc.
        But the law was specific as to guns. Now, Florida is a State that for many years
        has served as a prototype, and shining example of what the entire Country would
        look like if the NRA wrote the laws, handed them to the legislature, that promptly
        enacted them to the letter. And because of that, Florida touts some of the best armed,
        and equipped gangs, thugs, and militias this side of Mexico. In fact, it has been
        a challenge to cash strapped municipalities, that must rearm our law enforcement
        personnel every couple of years, just to keep them from being out gunned. As to
        abortion, if the best case you can make for allowing the State to involve itself into
        the private lives of women, is falsely claiming the government pays for abortions,
        you really have no idea what you’re talking about. You probably believe the fact
        that a government can require you to purchase health insurance, tyranny. But
        have no problem with that government withholding contraception on moral
        grounds? Come On!!

        • ObozoMustGo

          If the government can require you to buy health insurance, what CAN’T it require you to do?

          • charleo1

            The Court found the government cannot require the purchase of insurance.
            But may tax you if you don’t.

          • grammyjill

            Unfortunatly…SHUT UP!

          • ObozoMustGo

            grammy…. you’re becoming an evil and bitter old women… so sad to see. Are y0u taking your dimentia meds?

            Have a nice day!

            “I’ve never seen a vice president that has made as many mistakes, said as many stupid things. I mean, there’s a real fear that if, God forbid, he ever had to be entrusted with the presidency, whether he really has the mental capacity to handle it. I mean, this guy just isn’t bright.” – Rudy Giuliani

          • grammyjill

            Oh come on. A quote from a racist looser. Really! Dimentia won’t hit for another twenty years. I ain’t that friggin old sonny. I am on the other hand recovering from pnumonia again. Can you sue a hospital for giving you a pnumonia shot? Never had pnumonia before they insisted on giving me that damn shot. Had it five times in the last three years. I’ll go with evil though. Comes with freezing you ass off. I’ll be nicer in May. Until then though… Have a great day.

          • lana ward

            A Government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have

      • grammyjill

        The government does not and will not pay for abortions or birth control. The point is that the “smaller government” people are trying to control what a woman can and cannot do with her own body. This of course will backfire too. How you ask? Well, if they take away birth control, there are going to be an awful lot of men screaming about not getting sex anymore. So, they take away abortion rights, contriception, oh and invetro fertilization(which is also in the bill). How happy are most americans going to be? Can’t have sex anymore, at least not with the opisite sex. The people that want a baby but need help can’t get it anymore. I can see alot of right to birthers becoming targets for those people the NRA wants to keep there high powered guns. Sounds even to me.

      • Hollie

        Physicians and nurses ask them do you have a plan to hurt yourself or someone else…if so what is it…they talk to the family and ask if they feel the patient has a plan…ect their answer will drive what happens to the patient…at least that is how it works in Emergency Dept.

    • joeham1

      50,000,000 dead babies and your going to compare it to guns? You freakin jerk. Take away guns so 6 years olds don’t get killed, but kill as many unborn as you want becuae it’s no one business! Now because some in the GOP and Some democrats still believe it’s murder you can’t stand it! The issue is simple crap head. If you want em dead you pay for it! NOT ME!!!

  • nobsartist

    So after 40 years, here we are still debating a legal procedure.

    This sure does not give hope to ending the “drug war” prison industry cabal created by our government and used to enslave hundreds of thousands.

    Kill 20 kids and laws magically appear out of no where but still nothing for 50 MILLION AMERICANS screwed by the mortgage companies.

    • lana ward

      A government that is big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have

  • http://twitter.com/LostAnarchist S-3

    This is how mysogynistic fascism breeds – when women have no rightful control over how to utilize their own bodies.

    This is why America needs a violent revolt against the GOP – FACT!

  • quasm

    Mr. Sattler;

    Pregnancy is not a disease and abortion is not a cure. If a woman doesn’t want to get pregnant then she has an easy option. Avoid activities that result in pregnancy.

    Dik Thurston
    Colorado Springs

    • english_teacher

      Mr. Thurston,
      So are you saying that all couples everywhere should avoid activities that result in pregnancy? Have you ever heard of accidents when birth control failed? Have you ever heard of serious defects that will affect the life of the mother? Have you ever heard about fetuses who would live an excruciatingly painful short life?

      Abortion is a legal choice but it’s not yours. It’s the woman’s.

      • ALTreality

        You are trying to converse rationally with someone whose thinking has atrophied into an unreasonable, illogical and intractable mindset. Maybe this guy is advocating that all women should stop having sex with any man that is against abortion or a woman’s right to choose if and when she can have a child. I think that’s an absolutely wonderful plan. Just think how this will vastly diminish the number of babies being born into this archaic mindset. And maybe getting totally cut off from sex might give these guys some time to re-evaluate their thinking.

        BTW, I agree with you, this is a woman’s choice, a woman’s body. Why men should even have a voice in this issues is beyond me.

      • quasm

        Dear english_teacher;

        No, I’m not saying that. As for couples who have a child by accident. We all have to live with the consequences of our choices, whether accidental or intended. There are rare compassionate exception, certainly.

        Best Regards;
        Dik

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZJ5BBSQIGTUMERPZFALES6HQNY Bill

      And the LAW allows a woman the RIGHT to choose. It’s her choice not yours, not mine and not the gov’t. For people who want less invovlement from the gov’t you seems to want to intrude in a person’s private life. It’s not a person at conception, it’s a fetus that is not viable outside of the womb.

  • ObozoMustGo

    Congratulations to all of you baby murdering supporters! 54.5 MILLION AMERICANS HAVE BEEN SLAUGHTERED IN THE WOMB SINCE ROE V. WADE! Way to go guys! Great job. Keep up the great work. Let’s go for 100 MILLION. How bout it?

    We have now exceeded more than all the murders of innocent people than Stalin, Hitler, Mao, & Pol Pot committed combined.

    Keep complaining about guns killing kids, you psycho hypocrites!

    Have a nice day!

    “Society is endangered not by the great profligacy of a few, but by the laxity of morals amongst all.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

    • english_teacher

      They were not murders. They were the result of a perfectly legal medical procedure. They were not babies. A baby can think and feel; an embryo cannot. Because of increasingly improved better pregnancy tests, over 60 percent of abortions now occur before 9 weeks of gestation.

      Guns kill kids who are already thinking, feeling, independent, viable.

      If you really want to do something about abortion, make family planning easily available and accessible.

      “Compassion is the basis of morality.”
      ― Arthur Schopenhauer

      • ObozoMustGo

        Of course they are murders of innocent people. The most defenseless among us.

        What kind of idiot are you? Make family planning more accessible? What rock do you live under? It could not be more acessible unless a government agent brought it to your door and put it on you or made you swallow it.Holy crap!!!!! And you teach our children???? No wonder we are effed!!!!!!!!!!!! You’re the kind of moron I tell my children to laugh at behind your back.

        Have a nice day!

        “Don’t let schooling interfere with your education.” – Mark Twain

        • english_teacher

          No, sir. We are effed because of obozos like you.

          Have a nice day.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPL7LVHHKZXB3BKEJZNTKRMBYY Susan

          I am so, so sorry to hear that you have children.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZJ5BBSQIGTUMERPZFALES6HQNY Bill

          Another good christian comment from the bigot Bozo the idiot. Nce to teach your children some good charitable behavior. By the way your comments are the most tediuous replies on this site. If you don’t approve of birth control or abortions don’t make use of them.

          • ObozoMustGo

            billy boy… too bad your mother’s attempted abortion did not work. the best part of you was running down your mother’s leg once your sire hopped off. look at the bright side though… there’s only a possible 55 men who could have been your sire… just sayin

            Have a nice day, and remain oblivious!

            “The difference between being stupid and being a fool: A stupid person at least has an idea about their own inadequacies. The fool is oblivious to them, and is more inclined to believe their own fantasies and lies as truth.” – ObozoMustGo

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XPL7LVHHKZXB3BKEJZNTKRMBYY Susan

      How many of those “children” would you have been willing to support?

      • ObozoMustGo

        Great argument, Suzy. Some conservative won’t pay for the consequences of your sexual activity, so just kill the dirty little bastards, right? Better to murder them than pay for them, eh? In fact, conservatives should ALWAYS pay for leftist freaks children, shouldn’t they.

        Come to think of it, all leftist freaks should have their children taken from them, the ones that make it passed the abortionists scissors that is, right after birth so as to prevent the further indoctrination and dumbing down of America’s kids. Hmmmm…. maybe I’m on to something here???????????????

        Have a nice day, baby killer!

        “There are two victims in every abortion: a dead baby and a dead conscience.” – Mother Teresa

    • grammyjill

      As I told another crackpot. The abortion rate has dropped by 75% in the last 10 years because of something else you hate. Planned Parenthood. They don’t just do abortions you know. In my area there are three Planned Parenthood clinics. NONE of them do abortions. But they do do contriception so there are no unwanted babies found in dumpsters around here.

  • ObozoMustGo

    Here you go. For all of you leftist hypocrites whining about allowing the killing of babies, but screaming because of guns and Newtown…….

    [click image to enlarge]

    Have a nice day!

    “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

    • http://twitter.com/MortAlcoil1 Mort Alcoil

      For all you RIGHTIST hypocrites; guess what? Abortion was allowed under Reagan and Bush I and Bush II, so REPUBLICANS and REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS also support a Woman’s RIGHT to choose.

      As usual, another sanctimonious Republican faking outrage over something his OWN PARTY is quite OK with.

      • ObozoMustGo

        Morty you moron… Reagan was 100% unabashedly Pro-Life and spoke to that effect often. So did Bush’s 1 & 2. What kind of idiot are you?

        Have a nice day, and remain oblivious!

        “The difference between being stupid and being a fool: A stupid person at least has an idea about their own inadequacies. The fool is oblivious to them, and is more inclined to believe their own fantasies and lies as truth.” – ObozoMustGo

        • http://twitter.com/MortAlcoil1 Mort Alcoil

          And yet under Reagan, Roe Vs. Wade stood, as it did under Bush I and Bush II, so they accepted the will of the people to let Roe vs. Wade stand.

          You are obviously too stupid to understand the difference between a personal opinion and what the NATION wants. The NATION has consistently upheld a Woman’s right to choose and you are oblivious and so underwhelmingly uneducated that you can’t see that.

      • ObozoMustGo

        One other point for you, you jerkoff… President’s DON’T make laws… unlike Obozo who thinks he can just selectively follow, change, or rewrite passed legislation and alter the Constitution with Executive Orders. You’re an idiot, Morty! Plain and simple.

        Have a nice day!

        “Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were Morty Alcoil. But then I repeat myself.” — Mark Twain, updated by ObozoMustGo

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/ZJ5BBSQIGTUMERPZFALES6HQNY Bill

      Bozo the Idiot loves to use quotes from de Tocqueville but doesn’t realize that his philosophy was diametrically opposed to this Idiot’s rantungs. de Tocqueville was an eminent representative of the classical liberal political tradition. He uses quotes from people he has little or no understanding of their philosphy.

      • ObozoMustGo

        billy boy…. as usual, you have no clue what you’re talking about. Classic liberal political tradition of the days of our founding and early republic are 100% diametrically opposed to what you leftist freaks who call yourselves liberals/progressives today believe. You and your ilk are much more like Marx than you are like Washington/Madison/Jefferson/de Tocqueville. You are an idiot!

        Have a nice day!

        “Democracy extends the sphere of individual freedom, socialism restricts it. Democracy attaches all possible value to each man; socialism makes each man a mere agent, a mere number. Democracy and socialism have nothing in common but one word: equality. But notice the difference: while democracy seeks equality in liberty, socialism seeks equality in restraint and servitude.” ― Alexis de Tocqueville

  • Pamby50

    I am sick & tired of the right. They go on about how they don’t believe in BIG government. Yet they do believe in BIG government when it comes to women. They belive women are to stupid to take care of their bodies. Therefore they should be able to tell women what to do. Keep them home, barefoot & pregnant. Every time they go see a doctor, a script has to be read to them about abortion. Wow, 60 years old & you have to listen to that crap. If you don’t sign the script, the government can have the doctor arrested & they would lose there license. As for federal funds for abortion, please read the Hastert rule. It is still in effect. Leave Roe v Wade alone. Abortion should be safe, legal and rare. Stop the war on contraception.

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