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Thursday, February 21, 2019

Practically speaking, it doesn’t really matter if Donald Trump accepts the results of the November election. No concession speech—can anybody imagine the big blowhard delivering one?—is legally required. The Electoral College will certify the vote in December and the new president will be sworn in on January 20, 2017 whether Trump likes it or not.

That goes for his more fervid supporters too.

According to a recent CBS News poll, upwards of 80 percent of Texas Republicans claim to believe that only voter fraud can prevent Trump from winning. Florida Republicans too. Numbers like those prompted the Washington Post’s conservative columnist Jennifer Rubin to urge anti-Trump Republicans not to make the mistake of staying home on November 8.

“The bigger the margin by which he loses,” she writes “the more preposterous Trump’s claim that the election is fixed. Indeed, it’s more important for Republicans — if they want to get back their party — to vote against Trump than it is for Democrats.”

Rubin’s surely correct about the absurdity of the GOP candidate’s posturing. However, I think it’s a mistake to take rank and file grumbling about voter fraud too seriously. Large percentages of Texas Republicans also claim to believe that President Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim, climate change a Chinese-sponsored hoax, and a thousand similar absurdities. They’ve regarded every Democratic president since 1992 as illegitimate.

Did you know that the 2016 Texas GOP platform calls for quitting the United Nations, expelling its headquarters from the USA, and abolishing the Environmental Protection Agency?

But they haven’t gotten up off their Barca-loungers to do anything about it, and they’re not going to do anything but grumble this time either. These are essentially metaphysical complaints—political non-starters.

See, before it’s anything else a US presidential election—particularly THIS presidential election—is essentially the world’s longest running “reality TV” show. It’s “American Idol” with pollsters; or “Celebrity Apprentice” with stadium rallies, and so forth.

The cable news networks helped make it so back in the summer of 2015, when they began to cover Trump, a publicity-hungry playboy who impersonated a tycoon on TV, like a figure of real significance. CNN, MSNBC and the rest covered his arrival at airports as if he were the Pope—breaking into regularly-scheduled programming to broadcast his speeches live.

Suffice it to say they didn’t cover “Lyin’ Ted” Cruz, “Little Marco” Rubio, Carly “Would anybody vote for that face?” Fiorina, or even “Crooked Hillary” Clinton like that. They gave Trump immense free publicity. It was only ever about one thing: ratings.

No, two things, ratings and money. Trump could be provocative and amusing in a coarse way. He gave good TV. So they made him a star.

Except now the show is about over. So long as he was only seeking the applause of a certain kind of Republican, Trump looked invincible. But he never made the transition to the broader electorate. The novelty wore off. His insults and gibes grew steadily less amusing. Like many of his supporters, he appeared never to have grasped that it’s no longer possible to win national elections without black and brown voters.

Not to mention women. After he derided Hillary Clinton as a feeble little old lady, she made him look foolish in three debates running. By the end, she was the one doing the taunting, while Trump pouted and seethed. His repertoire of middle-school putdowns was no longer adequate to the task.

Trump would be losing even without his videotaped boasts about groping women, which merely confirmed what many instinctively suspected. He’s the kind of bully a woman can’t risk getting stuck in an elevator with.

So now “Celebrity Candidate 2016” is about to be canceled. What’s more, there’s no audience for repeat broadcasts after everybody knows who won.

Or, to put it another way, sorry Coach Trump, but the clock ran out with your team trailing by three touchdowns. Yelling at the refs only makes you look like a crybaby.

It follows that striking a defiant pose wouldn’t confirm Trump as the leader of the GOP resistance at all. Within a week, he’d become a laughingstock, a figure of fun, and the punchline of the national joke. Many of those he has humiliated along the way would enjoy mocking him. You think “Little Marco,” “Lyin’ Ted,” Paul Ryan or any of the rest will demand a recount?

Not a chance.

Talking Points Memo’s Josh Marshall has correctly diagnosed Trump’s motives. “For all the damage and destruction of Trump’s effort to undermine the legitimacy of the election,” he writes, “I believe it’s mainly been about preemptively managing the shame of defeat. If Trump just loses, it kills his brand and would I suspect be insupportably crushing in personal terms.

“But if he’s cheated, he becomes a martyr, a political martyr.”

Except that Americans just don’t do martyrs.

Time to grow up.

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109 responses to “Trump’s ‘Celebrity Candidate 2016’ Will End — Even Without A Concession Speech”

  1. Dominick Vila says:

    Not even a Hillary landslide of historic proportions will convince Trump, and/or his supporters, that the elections was not rigged and fraud was not widespread. Their convictions are influenced by emotion, hate, prejudice, and fear. There is simply nothing anyone can do or say that will convince them that their Savior is unacceptable to most Americans. Moreover, most of them don’t care. They want Trump, they want what he has been espousing, and they are unwilling to accept the will of most Americans. What remains to be seen is the extent of their ire, and what they may do after the election, when Trump loses by a large margin. Hopefully violence will be limited to small groups of diehards, and most will accept the results the way we have always done.

    • FireBaron says:

      It’s like Gene said. In Texas, they have refused to recognize either of the two Democrats who won in 1992, 1996, 2008 and 2012 as legitimately elected. After all, Bill Clinton defeated their Native (albeit transplanted from Connecticut) Son. The Son of their Native Son (also born in Connecticut) did win in 2000, thanks to vote manipulation on the part of his kid brother. But then that “Kenyan-born Muslim” had the audacity to win by the greatest majority in the history of our country, capturing more votes than Saint Ronald of Reagan! Only by fraud could that have happened! So even though President Obama has rounded up more illegal aliens resident in Texas and deported them than the Son of the Son did, even though more private sector jobs were created in Texas during his Administration than that of the Son of the Son, he is still illegitimate to them.

    • marriea says:

      I agree, but I hope that there will be no violence at all.
      Also something that Samatha Bee’s Full Frontal pointed out is that many people have this thing about women in power. We have been conditioned to think that women are not supposed to be in powerful positions, even as the vast majority of us were reared mostly by our mothers even if father was in the housewhole.
      Let’s see, a woman has to be supported of her man, have the babies, rear the babies, work in the ‘fields’ all the while maintaining the house, cook, clean, educate the kids, be the one who have to keep the family together, handle the books, ect, yet not be strong enough to handle things the same things on a national level.
      Interesting.

      • dpaano says:

        Women do MUCH more than men in most cases……maybe not the same things, but they do a very heavy-duty job! Men have always disregarded a woman’s work, both in the home or in the workplace, and they have been wrong! Whenever I’ve see women in high positions, they have been very good at the job. They are logical, they think before they act, they are loyal, and they are professional and responsible in the position. Not often do we see male CEO’s that do as good a job. I’m not putting down ALL male CEO’s, but you have to admit, there have been a few (like the CEO at Wells Fargo) who have NOT done a great job and are now seeing the fruits of their so-called labors!
        Having been in the military myself and having both male and female officers leading my group…..the women have always handled the jobs with much more ease than the men, and they’ve always got the job done without the most problems!

      • PatrickHenry says:

        The ONLY violence was caused by PAID avtivists sent to Trump’s rallys, PROVED by Wikileaks hacked Hillary & Podesta emails. More coming.

        • marriea says:

          Is that all you have gathered from this debacle, that someone sent paid activist to Trump’s rallies.
          What I find interesting is that Clinton got her private server so as to maintain some level of privacy.
          This is why most of us use e-mails as opposed to ‘snail mail’ and because communication is quicker.
          Unless I have missed it, the charges against Clinton is about her use of an ‘unauthorized server’ because it put the nation at risk of having sensitive, top secret info getting in the ‘wrong hands’.
          But yet, it’s the gov’t server that Podesta used is the one being hacked and not the one that Clinton had.
          And it’s through a gov’t server that private info/emails is being leaked.
          A few years ago many people were up in arms about gov’t spying on
          U S citizens and Snowden’s outing of this led to his now status of him now being in exile. (is he still in Russia?)
          But since it’s proven that anyone can hack into another’s server, it now seems that Clinton had reasons to be concerned.
          Oh, the irony of this situation.

          • PatrickHenry says:

            A private server that was in direct violation of Federal Laws & compromised our National Security, isn’t that of importance to you, no matter what your “political” affiliation?

          • marriea says:

            It’s not that I don’t agree with your overall point, It’s that I find irony in which server was actually hacked
            As it stands now, because of our universal insistance of the use of automation, we have replaced one threat with another that’s a bigger hazard.

          • PatrickHenry says:

            And Hillary, as well as the completely corrupted Obama Administration, media and Gov. Officials, can NOT be trusted, we have nearly lost OUR Government, thank god for these emails and revelations!

          • marriea says:

            Do you even know what ‘corrupt’ really mean?
            You seem to be channeling Trump, who uses the word ‘full of sound and fury signifying nothing’.
            Have you actually listened to what Trump is saying?
            Have you even paid attention to the many people who don’t know each other are saying about the man? Could that many people really be wrong?
            You say that you don’t trust officials, well to be honest I don’t niether.
            I never put any faith in any official or person in govt.
            But there are some who overall will do a better job at handling matters that pertain to our govt than others.
            When you listen a Trump, or for that matter what is written on his web pages, do you really see any specifics about his agenda other than adjectives.
            And lastly, exactly what has those e-mails revealed that is so damaging?
            What’s in those Wall Street speeches that is so damaging that someone was willing to pay over $200,000 to hear on speak.
            Wish I could demand or be offered that kind of money for a speech.
            But do you know, have you read them or just listen to what someone’s else evaluation (spin) is?

          • PatrickHenry says:

            The main point is still the UNLAWFUL use of a private server for classified, National Security by Hillary, the lies, then the coverups. This goes very deep and a big threat to OUR Liberty!

          • marriea says:

            And again, that is the sticking point, UNLAWFUL USE OF A PRIVATE SERVER..
            And as long as we keep harping on that point, we fail to think about the nuences involved.
            Let’s face it, if you drive, you see a stop sign.
            There is no traffic around so one carefully do a rolling stop.
            But the sign says STOP, not a ‘Rolling Stop’.
            We are supposed to all, by Federal Law it seems, to carry insurance on our car, but for some, car insurance is like paying rent, depending on the circumstances. So many say ‘bip it.’
            Now I realize that it is ‘unlawful’ supposily to use that private server, but I suspect that many in Congress uses one.
            My concern is, what does the words National Secutiy, calssified, secret info means.
            I worked in a govt job for 35 years before I retired.
            Those words I learned, mean whatever one using those words, wants it those words to mean.
            Hillary Clinton was Secy or State for at least a couple of years.
            Do you honestly think that she would be passing govt secrets on to others in casual talk.
            In fact, what has WikiLink hacked that was so damaging as to be even secret. Even those Wall Street speeches that we have heard so much about proved to be very benign.
            Years ago, I think his name is Snowden, said that our govt was spying on us via our e-mails and social media.
            Yet, here we are doing the same thing and obviously and apparently salivating about a private server and not putting things in perspective.
            If you don’t like Hillary Clinton and don’t want to vote for her, then don’t. Vote for Trump with so many negatives it’s unreal.
            Or vote for Johnson or Stein for that matter.
            But when you do, please vote for something that really means something and not be against a candadate just because they decided to pick up a penny that was in the mud and they got their hand dirty.
            If you’re going to look at someone with a juandiced eye, make sure that your own real judgement are pure.
            Just saying

  2. planetc says:

    I have felt that the Trump candidacy gained its “legitimacy” from the MSM because he has been so exciting. From his announcement speech through every public utterance he’s made since, he says something exciting. Even better, from the point of view of the pundits, what he says spits in the face of the political correctness they must conform to. The major newspapers and broadcast media are competing with the terrifying speed and thrills of the internet. If they hope to hold their audiences, the MSM have got to be exciting too. So the media need ratings for a very practical reason–so they can justify their salaries. In the current climate, Mrs. Clinton has been at a considerable disadvantage: she’s boring. She warbles on about policy and possible legislative initiatives, and how to improve people’s lives. She’s a Drag! This explains why every media mention of her campaign has to mention her emails. They’re the only thing that offered even a remote hope of something interesting happening, like an indictment. Luckily enough, the nation’s women, and African Americans, and Latinos/Latinas all understand the difference between a television show and a government that gets the streets plowed after a blizzard. The country will get very quiet after the election, except for construction vehicles and women’s sighs of relief.

    • TZToronto says:

      One reason the diehard Trump worshippers continue to support the unsupportable is that they have a lack of critical ability. It’s like Orson Welles’ War of the Worlds broadcast when people, glued to their radios and shaking in their boots, lacked the good sense to open the door and look outside to see if there were actually Martians trundling down the street in their other-wordly super cars. If you support Donald Trump, who are you going to believe–your lying eyes or the Orange Goblin? The disasters Trump spews about are not real. The U.S. military is without peer–not even close–but Trump says it’s a disaster. ISIS is being attacked and defeated in Syria and Iraq, but Trump says President Obama’s actions in that regard are a disaster; ISIS operatives will be beheading your neighbor next week, if you listen to Trump. Employment is a disaster, according to Trump, even though the unemployment rate has been dropping since President Obama began saving the economy from a total meltdown. Illegal Mexican immigration is at an all-time high, according to Trump, even though more Mexicans are moving back to Mexico than are entering the U.S. In other words, whatever Trump says, his followers believe without question, even if their own personal situations are totally at odds with what Trump preaches. Perhaps it’s just too much work for Trump lovers to try to compare what he’s saying with what they see for themselves. It’s like the opinion of climate-change deniers: Last winter was really cold where I live, so there’s no global warming; I’m not working, so the whole country must be out of work.

      • Karen says:

        One of the most frustrating things about this election has been a lack of serious debate about real issues between our two political parties brought to us by a candidate who wanted to talk only about himself. I’m trying to imagine what the concession speech might sound like coming from someone having to admit for the first time he really is a loser. I like the sound of progress you referred to.

        • planetc says:

          Karen, I think we’re listening to his concession speech right now–it’s impossible for him to lose, so if they announce someone else has won, the system must be rigged. Mr. Trump always makes complete emotional sense, but no intellectual sense at all. Perhaps he’ll go out congratulating himself on having exposed so many serious national problems to the fresh air of public debate, even though there’s been no debate, and the air has gotten pretty foul.

        • Jinmichigan says:

          When one side has nothing serious about them, it’s impossible to have a serious debate.

        • dpaano says:

          Karen….he’s NEVER going to admit that he lost the election. He’ll only keep bloviating about how the system was rigged and how he’s going to sue the country for his losing the vote! He never takes blame for his own actions, and this won’t be any different. He will put the blame on whatever hits his fancy at the time, but he needs to look at his own campaign….he failed to prepare for the debates, he failed to listen to his own campaign managers when they told him to tone it down; he failed miserably, and he’s going to lose!

        • PatrickHenry says:

          Questions asked almost entirely by liberal, Democrat supporting moderators you mean?

      • marriea says:

        From what I have seen with many folks supporting Trump is they see what is billed as a ‘billionaire’ who is a ‘sucessful’ businessman.
        They fail to note that he also cheats.
        They see dollar signs and figure that somehow ‘trickle down’ works.
        They are like the woman who charged $35,000 on her credit card to take classes (I hope it was ‘classes’) at Trump “University” so she could learn how to rich like him. No con teaches you his or her trade.
        With Trump, based off his limited study’s seemingly felt that the majority of whites ( roughly 66%) of the population dislike or disapproved Prsident Obama.
        I suspect that Trump felt that if he could get at least 50% of those voter swayed in his direction, he could possibly win a national election. I think Sarah Palin was thinking the same thing.
        However both failed to take into account that in the landscape of this entire country, a national election is much harder.
        Also is it my imagination or is Trump is so jealous of President Obama that he can’t see straight.
        What has come to my surprising attention is that women evangelicals are now being so truned off by Trump’s women crudeness and calliousness, that they might just stay at home or vote for Clinton.
        That’s a good thing, even as their mates or husbands pout.
        I think those ‘sex’ tapes did more harm toTrump than those Wiki Links hacking has done for Clinton.
        I love karma.

        • zorro037 says:

          One of Trump reasoning to be on the political arena was this: if Barack Obama is a black and was able to win the Presidency, why not him who is white, rich and with fame of entrepeneur? He was a star like he billed himself and according to him and Giuliani was the moment to claim the mantel of power from those colored people who don’t deserved.

    • dpaano says:

      Personally, I’d rather hear about a candidate’s alleged “boring” policies, plans, and legislative initiatives, for our country if they are elected. I got very tired, very fast, listening to Trumps bloviating day after day without any substance or any ideas about what he actually plans on doing if elected. And, now, despite the fact that the media has given him hundreds of hours of free publicity, he’s blaming them for “rigging” the campaign and threatening to sue them (against the 1st Amendment, by the way) once he’s elected. Once again, he fails to put the blame where it belongs….in his own lap!! He is the ONLY one who has scrapped his chance of winning this election….him and his big mouth!

  3. greenlantern1 says:

    Hopefully; Trump brings down the Republican party with him!!

  4. Dan S says:

    I’m not a puppet, you’re the puppet. Now substitute the word loser in place of puppet. That’s right, Mr. Trump is a big fat loser. Most rational people don’t support him, don’t like him, comes across as a spoiled brat who needs to be sent to his room. We need real mature adults to lead this country not some narcissistic man child with no self control & ill temperament to lead this country

  5. Gail Ferraiolo says:

    How do you come off by downing Mr. TRUMP you all sound like you can’t wait for our country to fail! Besides not keeping our people safe from all these immigrants coming into take over our country and put people in concentration camps….Hillery said it herself…going up on taxes! How can any of you even be believable when you support a person that has left a trail of dead bodies! She was responsible for Benghazi and Bush was responsible for 9/11…..don’t you know that you are all criminals and will be held accountable for voting in the Clintons again when they were responsible for many families loosing there homes in Arkansas! There drug running. Nobody will be safe if Hillery becomes president! And what a poor excuse to hire a woman! With her track record! She has got you all fooled! Just like our Governer in Ct. Now everyone is sorry they voted for Dan Malloy! And none of you are honest don’t even use your own names! #TRUMP2016

    • Mama Bear says:

      You poor thing. If you do not have the intelligence to do your own research and spend the time thinking it through you do not have the intelligence to be taken seriously. Go home.

      • marriea says:

        Well, Trump did say he loved his ‘under educated’ didn’t he.
        And what’s this ‘keeping this country ‘safe’.
        Safe, to me, is a relative term.
        He have more ‘terrorist’ born in this country than there are outside.
        ISIS is no threat to us more than many American born are.

          • marriea says:

            To be honest, I’d never heard of ‘the Red Flag’ so I bothered to check it out.
            I think I would have been more served trying to read the National Enquirer, which is just as bad.
            I realize that Trump get a lot of his material from the Enquier.
            Big ‘Headlines’ no substance.

          • Jon says:

            Redflagnews is just like several other hate group fantasy sites reporting pure fiction as if it were fact. Unfortunately there are delusional people who are too lazy to do any fact checking or critical thinking who treat these hate site “news” morons as if they are reporting the indisputable truth.

          • Anna Maria Yoakum says:

            The Enquirer, that rag that blasts it’s indiotic headlines in our faces when we go to the grocery store check out ? That is a laugh. I really wish the grocery stores would put that trash back in the magazine and comic books section, where it belongs (well it really belongs in the garbage can). I find it repugnant !

        • dpaano says:

          And, Marriea, ISIS has actually said that they are hoping he wins because he’s been doing such a great job helping them recruit!

          • marriea says:

            I don’t know, dpaano,
            I sometimes think that if the ‘heads’ of ISIS had any sense, they would just lie back and let us destroy ourselves.

            After all, with all of this talk about ISIS coming to this country, how many people have ISIS killed in this country, to date?
            Compare that to the number of people American have killed and some in the most gruesome way.
            I get that some want ot say that San Bernadino and Orlando was done by ISIS, but there is no proof of that.
            ISIS sympathizers, maybe, but actual members, no.
            I kind of put these people in the same category as say that Roof kid who killed the people in that South Carolina church.
            Many of Trump’s supporters sympathicize with groups like the KKK, but arn’t actual members.
            But like that Roof kid, if they had the chance to, I have no doubt that would become violent and hurt someone else just because they could.
            I think of that seemingly old bigot who sucker punches that black kid at a North Carolina rally and then bragged on national TV, no doubt that ‘ I guess the next time we’d just have to kill em’. (By the way did he get sued and did Trump actually pay for his legal bill, as he promised to do?)
            That guy could go on one on one of those court TV shows and get $5000 easily.
            But honestly, I think Trump’s big draw is that he is ‘reportedly’ a rich guy and I truly believe that many of his supporters hope that he will poooour some of his wealth down to them. It ain’t gonna happen, but it’s a dream.
            Nor is he gonna supply them with ‘good paying’ jobs.
            He’s already on record as saying their is nothing wrong with the current mimimum wage status.
            I wish his supporters would actually listen to what Trump is not saying, and boy is it a dozy.

          • dpaano says:

            So true…..but, unfortunately, they only hear what they want to hear and have NO idea that 90% of what he’s promised them cannot be done. Most of his plans are unconstitutional or would require a Constitutional Amendment, which is extremely difficult to get because it has to be voted on by the entire country. It’s pretty sad because they think he’s going to change the world and they don’t realize that he can’t. He’s as in the dark about how our government actually works as they are!

          • marriea says:

            Yes, but as much as I have a distain for Trump and his ignorance, I worry even so much so about Mike Pence who does know.

            Donald Trump is a stupid blowhard.
            I suspect that he owes Russia and Putin something,
            Maybe he’s in debt to Russia for a loan or something.
            If members of Congress already know or suspect this, they aren’t going to play their hand and will just hold on for a win.
            If Trump wins, then in about 6 mouths, they can feed his feeble ego enough to get him to go off handle and admit something stupid and they will impeach him making way for a President Pence.
            Pence is too quiet for my taste. He’s like tiger waiting for his prey to get comfy so he can pounce.
            Then all the remaining members of Congress has to do is claim they saved the country from a fringe member of ‘our’ own party and people will lap it up.
            They do have something on Trump, but exactly what, I don’t know. It’s like they are playing a chess game, which is what politics actually is.
            (smile)
            I’m so hoping that the Cubs finally win the pennant and in the year 2016 will be the year of the first woman president and the year Chicago Cubs can finally claim victory.

          • Anna Maria Yoakum says:

            Hope your dream comes true. 🙂 As I read your, well written comment, I couldn’t help but think what a thrilling novel that would make. A mad man, lured by a political party to run for president, grabs the minds and souls of all of America’s uneducated, vulnerable masses. He then finds himself maniputlated by the very party that he stood for, they’re smarter, more powerful and even more evil than himself. They see to it that he is finally deemed insane and cast into a mental asylum for the duration of his life. Meanwhile from the dark depths of the vice-presidency an even more sinister serpent rises its ugly head . . .
            Oh yeah, that does give me goosebumps. Would make for a great book, and definitely a page turner. Of course there would have to be a hero to vanquish the serpent but in our case it would have to be a heroine – Hillary naturally.

    • Tracy Lund says:

      I am using my real name, your are an insane person.

    • stcroixcarp says:

      No. Honey, our country is great. We are counting the days until Donald Trump officially fails. Trump and his racist, bigoted, sexist, violent vision is not America. Trump is a failure in business, in politics and in human decency. He deserves to be a a clot of crap in the dustbin of history.

    • Mama Bear says:

      yadda yadda yadda…same old lines we heard when Obama was running – “he will take your guns away, that is his first order of business” And here is the total of all the guns he took away: 0
      You people have no thought processes of your own or you would not be supporting this mentally ill moron. You remind me of the child’s story “Henny Penny”

      • dbtheonly says:

        You know, Ms. Ferraiolo could really use some spelling help.

        • Mama Bear says:

          remedial reading and spelling is available everywhere for anyone who wishes to learn 🙂

          • dpaano says:

            She just shows that she’s a typical Trump follower…..white, female (in lieu of male), and pretty much uneducated or undereducated. I doubt if she actually has stepped on a college campus, much less gotten any type of a degree.

          • Mama Bear says:

            My image of her is that she is married to a guy that wears a dirty “wife beater” t-shirt, drinks cheap beer and sits on his butt whenever he cann barking orders to her.

    • dpaano says:

      Hillary is only raising taxes on individuals making over $250,000, which is not everyone. She also admitted clearly that the middle class MIGHT get a 1% tax raise, which I’m okay with. As for your comment about her not “keeping people safe,” that’s total BS. It isn’t her job to keep the people safe….she’s only running for president; she is not a part of the government until that happens. She has NOT left a trail of dead bodies….not sure where you got that idea except for the usually conspiracy BS that the GOP has put out there. She was NOT responsible for Benghazi, and that’s been proven over and over again by a myriad of committees! As for people losing (note: it’s NOT “loosing”) their homes in Arkansas, you can blame that mostly on your governor….another Republican who seems to think that trickle-down economics is the way to go. Drug running…..really? How in heck is she responsible for that, may I ask? Seriously, you need to see a therapist because you have been SO brainwashed that you are suffering severely from Stockholm Syndrome!
      Again, those of us on this site are just as honest as the next person……even if we make the choice NOT to use our real names, which we don’t have to do if we don’t wish to. That doesn’t make us bad guys, Gail! Please, get off the name thing because it’s a waste of time and is totally irrelevant!

    • jmprint says:

      What do you mean HOW, every time he opens his mouth is HOW! Our country hasn’t failed yet, and that’s why smart people are voting for Hillary, we love our country, you love Trump, there’s a complete difference. The only people taking our country is those that our selling our land to the Russians, Chinese and Arabs. You are right Hillary is going up on taxes on anyone making more then $250,000.00 I doubt that you are in that range. There is no trail of dead bodies, those are conspiracy videos that Stone and Jones who have been getting rich on Hillary’s back, you need to stop lying, if she had killed anyone she would be in prison. Your lover boy is a RAPIST, so let’s just call him what is. Do you want a rapist to have to spend the rest of his presidency in court defending himself for what he thought was his privilege? She was cleared from any wrong doing in Benghazi. Don’t you know that you will have to face your maker, when he asks you why would you vote for a person that is unGodly. Everybody was safe when her husband was president and everyone will be safe when she becomes president. Dan Malloy has been acting like a republican and has cut taxes and government jobs, see how that works, even you don’t like the results of republican agenda. Hillary the only wise choice in 2016.

    • Y’all come back now, ya’ hear?

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    • Anna Maria Yoakum says:

      What is a name . . . ” a rose by any other name would smell as sweet . . .” Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet.
      I happen to be using my own name but there is nothing evil nor sinister about using a nom de plume . . . Samuel Clemens used the nome de plume of Mark Twain when he wrote many of his marvelous novels – does that make him bad or evil ?

  6. Mama Bear says:

    To a person with Narcissistic Personality Disorder the only opinion that matters is his own -that is how they manage to maintain their fragile to non-existent ego.Trump has spent his life telling himself he is always right and everyone else is wrong and the results of the election will be no different. The truly pathetic part is his followers are now locked into his game.

    • dpaano says:

      What’s ridiculous is that he now is blaming the media…..the same media that gave him hundreds of hours of free publicity in the earlier part of his campaign. Amazing how they quickly turned against him, or so he says, after he’s lost 3 important debates (due, in part, from lack of preparation, by the way)! Suddently, the media is rigged……interesting! He needs to put the blame where it belongs….on himself! He’s done all the damage on his own….no one did it for him!

  7. Gail Ferraiolo says:

    So what has Hillery ever done for us or our country…except lie fill her own pockets and threaten people who don’t go along with her…so many people have died on her path….just a fraud, that’s the way her whole life has been! It’s everyone else’s fault except hers. Hillery hates everyone including the very people who protect her! I wouldn’t protect that miserable shrew if I was paid a million dollars an hour! I guess people don’t love this country or there families or there freedoms! Because Hillery and obama are out to take over the country…they only want the elites the middle and the poor she could care less…just knows how to program people to get your vote and continue to use our White House for a whorehouse!! Guess you want to see us all fail! You are such good honest people you don’t even use your real names!

    • Mama Bear says:

      You poor thing. Do you get paid to troll or is it something you feel is your duty?

    • Karen says:

      I might try to respond but at this late date I fear that would be futile given your mindset. Calm down, everything is going to be okay.

      • Mama Bear says:

        honestly I think these trolls are on the Trump (non) payroll. So many of their comments and rebuttals are verbatim like it came from a script, and then they delete everything and change their names.

        • Blueberry Hill says:

          We’ve been warned about the paid Trump trolls on these sites. They will really be mad when the Trump Trash stiffs them too. He doesn’t pay his bills.

          ..

          • dpaano says:

            I was just going to mention that myself. If they are waiting to get paid by the Trump campaign…..they might as well sit down and wait!!!

    • Anna Maria Yoakum says:

      I’m sure this is a copy and paste favorite of Gail Ferraiolo as I swear I’ve read it before. And I do clearly rememeber telling her that there is nothing sinister about using a nickname online – almost everbody does it. If someone has a photo of a cat for their profile photo, that certainly doesn’t mean that the cat is actually the one typing and making their comments. . . but perhaps Ms. Ferraiolo believes it is truly a cat that is online and giving its point of view. Heaven help us if this is the mentality of the next generation.

      • Mama Bear says:

        I am afraid it is the mentality of a cross section of all generations. What else would explain how Trump has “pied pipered” so many?

      • dbtheonly says:

        On one hand, using a “nom de blog” allows us to be more vulgar and abusive without being subject to outside reprocussions.

        On the other hand using our real names would expose us to any person out there who might not have our best interests at heart.

        Personally, I vote for privacy.

        How seriously do we have to take someone who misspells Hillary consistently?

        • dpaano says:

          She misspells a lot of things consistently. Just one of Trump’s typical followers…..white, female (in lieu of male), and under-educated (no college education).

    • pisces63 says:

      You have proven this writer’s point. Idiots united.

    • Jinmichigan says:

      You need a therapist.

    • Tracy Lund says:

      you poor stupid woman.

    • CrankyToo says:

      You’re proof-positive that stupid people support Donald Trump. For God’s sake, woman, you can’t even spell Hillary’s name correctly. You’re a moron.

    • Jenn says:

      If you weren’t so ignorant to the real facts, you would be hilarious. I love how Trump supporters call Hillary and the president elitists while your candidate literally sits on a gold throne in his gold opulent penthouse and rides around on his private plane. All this from money he got from his daddy, made off the backs of hard-working Americans, while he was cheating small business owners who did work for him. So instead of regurgitating what you hear about Hillary from fan boys like Hannity, why don’t you educate yourself to real facts. Hillary is flawed but who isn’t? Your candidate has spent his life using, suing, lying, cheating, and being a sexual predator. Does that make you proud? Tell us one thing he has done for others where he wasn’t looking to make a buck for himself. I’m using my real name.

    • dpaano says:

      We don’t have the time or the energy to AGAIN relist ALL of the things that Hillary has done in her 30+ years since graduating from college. If you bothered to do your homework, you’d be able to figure it out by yourself rather than just believe the BS that the GOP has told you!

    • jmprint says:

      You have been watching too many of Stones conspiracies, those videos have brain washed a lot of low information people. What bothers me the most about people like you is, not only that you believe all the innuendos that are out there about Hillary, but also that you are totally blinded by what Trump really stands for. Unless you are a member of the white nationalists, there is no reason why any decent human being shouldn’t vote for Hillary, she is the only qualified person to keep us moving forward, and keep us safe from dictators like Putin and Duarte. Trump will offer you change that’s worth less then a penny, is that the kind of change you are looking for? Trump is full of lies, deceit, fraud and despicable.

    • jmprint says:

      Just read your profile, so you’re one of those fake christian who preaches about what God doesn’t like, but don’t follow what God expects from us. And for your information abortion is getting rid of an unwanted fetus, nothing more, nothing less. Trump is what God’s speaks against and you are a follower.

    • Thoughtopsy says:

      It’s obvious you haven’t even bothered to research Hillary’s political history or you could… gasp… answer your own question.

      It’s sad to see people so bound up in their own delusions that they don’t do the bare minimum of fact finding before displaying their ignorance for all to see.

  8. Box says:

    Of course Trump or Hillary will concede if its a landslide, but everyone is talking about a close race. If it were 63,001,290 to 63,006,377 you can be sure BOTH will be screaming. Consider how close it was for JFK/Nixon and Bush/Gore. Get real.

    Speaking of voting, fraud already in Texas. Voting machines are flipping Trump votes to Hillary. Voting staff couldnt correct the error so Texas switched to paper ballots. Who done it?
    http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines-2016/it-is-happening-again-voting-machines-are-switching-votes-from-donald-trump-to-hillary-clinton

    Meantime there is a WH Petition to stop the Soros-connected company from using their voting machines in 16 states.

  9. Jenn says:

    I never believed Trump really wants to be a real president he just wants to win. He loves the attention and he would love to yield that kind of power. He has done nothing to learn about the issues or governing. He doesn’t want to do the work as we saw in his lack of preparations for the debates. He’s so used to having people do the work for him. No serious candidate would tell a potential vice-president candidate (Kasich), that if he accepts the position, he would be in charge of both domestic and foreign policy while the so-called president makes America great again. He has no history of doing anything that would make life great for anyone but himself. The Republican party deserves Trump, America doesn’t.

  10. Jon says:

    Donnie is all about Donnie. Nothing else really matters. He lies constantly to help himself and attack others. He says he wants to turn his business over to his kids but he is destroying the Trump name by letting everyone know just how repugnant he and his kids are. Donnie just needed an ego boost and he got one. Unfortunately for him his fragile psyche is going to be shocked when he gets beat by a girl. If he bothers making a concession speech it will be a hollow and empty as when he renounced his birther conspiracy. It is best to treat him like the whiny spoiled brat he is and ignore him while he is throwing his tantrum.

    • dpaano says:

      As you said, the MOST that Trump has done during his campaign is totally ruin his celebrity status. No one wants to do business with him any longer and those who are currently doing business with him are rushing to disengage themselves. People living in his condos are quickly petitioning to have his name taken off their buildings or selling their condos at a loss just to get out of them! Pretty sad….he’s going to be left with nothing now that the business world sees him for what he really is…..a con man; only out for himself! He should NEVER have fun for the presidency because it’s now going to bite him on the butt when he loses!

      • Jon says:

        I think he ran for the presidency just to feed his voracious ego. Because he thinks he can do no wrong, he exposed himself to the nation and the world believing that the overwhelming majority of people would love him. He did find some who love him. Too bad for him that the majority find him repugnant and repulsive.

        • dpaano says:

          And, his followers aren’t the ones who would come to him to do any type of business transaction, so he’s lost his celebrity status to the more important people than just his followers!

      • ivory69690@yahoo.com says:

        if thy sell at a loss the DUMPSTER buys it back and then trys to sell to make money or just waits and rents the place till he can find a fool to buy the place . then again he could put the ones he grops in the places so he can go by and grop when he wants

  11. Eleanore Whitaker says:

    For me, The Donald is like a bad case of the shingles. All you want it to do is goooooooo away! No he will not concede formally. Sanders never did and now look. He is up to his old revolutionary war tricks.

  12. Mama Bear says:

    I just had an uncomfortable thought and hopefully I’m not bordering on paranoia….what if – for just a moment I’m going to that “what if” place…there is an underground concerted effort among old line Repubs to all write in the same candidate, say Ted Cruz or god-forbid Kasich….could they win?

  13. OverthecliffRepublicans says:

    It is not enough for the scamming yam to suffer a humiliating electoral defeat on November 8th . I want him and his family financially ruined from this toxic fiasco they have foisted on us. And I want Trump supporting Republicans to sink along with the Trump boat.

  14. ivory69690@yahoo.com says:

    ok tell me who is at the bottom of the weakly leak BULL . its strange that all these email are coming out now . also why is it that only any emails weather old or new ones only are coming out on Hillary and nothing at all on DONNY DUMP ?. im thinking it the DUMPSTERS emails where hacked you would get one stating the clown talking about getting more emails out on Hillary from his team . seeing how nothing is coming out on the DUMPSTER be more like its him and his team doing all this bull . that’s DONNY DUMPS style . the whole email thing is just too one sided to not be coming from the DUMPSTER’S side or his Russian B/F PUTTHEAD that wouldn’t be surprise me at all . and when the election is over thy should have some USA hackers do the same thing to weakie leaks and his country and if its not juicy enough it can still be done like one can be sure thy do ALTER THEM EMAILS maybe the Queen dating a horse who knows how cares . turn about is fair play . then it might not be a lie that the queen dates horses .

    • Anna Maria Yoakum says:

      Know this is late but I came to look at the updates. Ivory I do sincerely agree with the first part of your argument. Why indeed were all these hacks and Wikileaks all one sided, targeting Hillary and the DNC and yet not so much as a dribble about Trump and the RNC. I feel that it is the Russians that are behind it and they are using Julian Assange as their dump to try to legitimize the hacks and leaks (especially if they happen to altar any of these documents to make them appear more sinister). I also believe that the Trumpster is definitely in on it and that his hands are just as dirty as Putin’s and Assange’s are.
      My only reservations are in regards to last part of your comment about doing to them what they have done to us. As a nation we truly need to rise above such illegal tactics and be an example to the rest of the world, to show them we are better than our enemies. Unfortunately I realize this is a hard temptation to resist.

      • ivory69690@yahoo.com says:

        is it a payback ? yes I guess in away . to do nothing then when will thy stop ? to not stand up and protect one self for these bullies or what ever thy are only gives them the thought that thy can do it again and again and again . its the same as a bullie in the school yard is one dose nothing then thy can just look forward to getting beat up all the time to no end . at some point if one dosent stand up for them self then there is no end to it . one has to show its not right to do something if thy don’t then the other feels its ok to keep doing it . and then thy do just that keep doing it . one has to defend them self . or it will never end . maybe an example here is needed to stand up defend one self and show either 2 can play the same game . is it like what comes around go’s around ? yup I guess so . and enermie is one you battle and while battling your use the same weapons thy use . the bigger one will be the one that wins and just lets it go not one that wins and keeps doing what thy did to stat the battle in the first place/ to stop it all one has to play the same hard ball game or it never may end as I see it im a nice guy until one throws the first stone then the true battle begins and it a defense mode

  15. PatrickHenry says:

    What is most amazing is the thousands of Hillary supporters, or even Obama supporters, that were basically insulted by their lies, corruption, & disrespect towards them. Wikileaks PROVED this time & time again. Bernie supporters got screwed by the PROVEN rigged election, causing the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Obama was PROVED lying about Hillary’s emails. There were never any emails hacked that showed even ONE email about a wedding or Yoga. Hillary insulted Hispanics & Blacks in her hacked emails that she unlawfully destroyed AFTER ordered to turn them in, even hammering hard drives & bleaching. She has played you for fools, she hasn’t any respect for you. She even said she has nothing in common with you, the masses. She takes MILLIONS from wealthy lobbyists including terrorist sponsoring nations. She admitted on hacked emails that she KNOWS refugees CAN’T be vetted.

    It’s wel, past time to see the PROOF right in front of you, Verified by her, & other’s emails. Our Country cannot endure this complete corruption og OUR Government, no matter what your political ideology. The Republican Leadership is guilty as well. Hillary will entrench the corruption making it unalterable. Freedom of a representative government of the People will vanish. Almost is already.!

  16. DOC says:

    Sour graps, sore looser, and last no class.=Donnal Trump.

  17. Dorothy Howell says:

    Thank you to all…I am a Canadian but have had a heartfelt experience reading your comments apart from one or two who will hang in until the last “dog is hung” (not literally)…so to speak!! I was with President Obama from the outset and love the man….his eloquence, his intelligence and his class not to mention his integrity. I have watched over many years as Hillary was maligned by the RNC for being a woman, a wife standing beside her mate, an intelligent and cause driven public servant. They knew then that she would be a cause for their concern and they have done everything but deny her American birth….that didn’t work either, did it Donald, except to convince those who were susceptible. Thank you again….and if it wasn’t obvious from the outset…I’M WITH HER.:-)

    • Well said, thoughtful, and observant. It’s refreshing to get someone’s opinion who is looking at this mess from a distance.
      As I’m sure you know, this phenomenon speaks of a moral collapse in America, and one that is happening elsewhere in the world. We just happen to have lots of big mouths here below the Canadian border, and lots media, and Twitter—ing from one bombast in particular.

  18. First, if the GOP platform of Texas wishes to secede from the Union we should pack those wishing to do so into the panhandle and draw a line at the bottom. It can have Donald as their banana republic President, Cruz can be an ambassador to the US, others can serve as de facto government officials, and “citizens” will be required to have special Border Crossing Cards to cross into Texas proper, Oklahoma, and into New Mexico.

    So, GOP’ers of Texas, make our day! You can even pretend that there is no climate change as the heat and tornado frequency rises.

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