By Joe Conason

Down On America: As Economy Improves, Republicans Remain In Denial

October 12, 2012 10:58 pm Category: Economy, Memo Pad 83 Comments A+ / A-
Down On America: As Economy Improves, Republicans Remain In Denial

When Joe Biden said “I’ve never met two guys more down on America across the board,” he meant Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan — who provoked the vice president’s snipe during their debate by insisting, utterly falsely, that unemployment is still worsening across the nation. But the vice president’s complaint also applies to the Republican leadership at large, in Congress and across the right-wing media, where the talking points on U.S. economic prospects and progress are always negative.

Certainly the Republicans have tried to do their part to sink the economy, as last year’s manufactured debt crisis demonstrated beyond doubt. But whenever the news is good, they insist that the encouraging data must be inaccurate or even manipulated – as former General Electric boss Jack Welch proclaimed in his infamous tweet about the newly improved unemployment data last week.

This week the right-wing propaganda machine disparaged a  big reduction in new jobless claims as a statistical anomaly, supposedly based on California’s failure to report its data to the Bureau of Labor Statistics in Washington. The only problem with this theory is that California officials did report those numbers.Meanwhile both the mainstream and right-wing media largely ignored the latest report by the Financial Times and the Brookings Institution, which found that the United States is “the sole bright spot” in a sluggish world economy.

Just how much uplifting data must appear before the persistent naysayers admit that the economy is improving? It is true that the numbers cut against their political interest, so they’re likely to deny any signs of economic health unless and until they can claim credit. Yet the signs are present and increasing.

On Friday, the Treasury Department reported that the federal budget deficit will again exceed $1 trillion, mostly as a consequence of the Bush tax cuts—but the good news is that tax revenue went up anyway by 6.4 percent, solely because of growth in jobs and income. (And in fact, the deficit was lower than last year, thanks to a reduction in government spending as American troops left Iraq.) So the president is reducing the deficit, as promised, in the only sensible and equitable way that can be done—by eliminating the cost of a pointless war abroad and stimulating growth at home.

Consumer confidence—another key indicator—has risen to the highest level since September 2007, according to a survey released today by Thomson Reuters and the University of Michigan. The measure climbed to 83.1, jumping almost five points from the August rating of 78.3. Reuters reported that the new number significantly exceeded the expectations of most analysts, “who expected the rating to drop.”

There is more almost every day. Ask the bankers, who also seem to have noticed positive indicators (when they take a break from raising money for Romney).  The chief financial economist for the Bank of Tokyo, for instance, told the Los Angeles Times that even if the new jobs numbers require correction—as such statistics almost always do, “the [improved] direction of the labor market is real.”

Reporting record profits for JPMorgan Chase on Friday, Jamie Dimon released a statement saying that the housing market has “turned a corner.” His company’s investment banking unit earned more in underwriting fees for equity and debt instruments—another indicator that firms are finally putting money into plants and equipment, rather than continuing to sit on trillions of dollars.

Polls suggest that the setbacks of the past few years have left voters with little patience for White House boasts of economic progress. But recent improvements open space for President Obama to say that things are finally getting better—and that changing course toward the radical right would be  dangerous and foolish.

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  • ski3938

    As you all know only bad news sells. But at the same time if the stock market is a leading indicator the improvement means that the movers and shakers and investment decision makers agree . They are actually committing money and betting on economic improvement. So what is a better indicator political talk or actual investment managers actions???

    • JohnRNC

      True, but the stock market tends to “react” to all the other economic indicators (e.g. consumer confidence, unemployment, etc.) as well as political talk. It’s a very incestuous system. These days the “economy on Main Street” lags way behind the stock market – as it should. The kind of volatility we’ve seen over the last few years makes the stock market a poor indicator of the overall state of the economy.

      If the Republicans had participated in anything other than obstructing Obama, then the two sides could compete for credit for the improving numbers. As it is, the Republicans find themselves unable to do anything other than fabricate an environment that justifies their case. Hence, you will never hear positive economic news on Fox as long as there is a Democrat in the White House.

      • ExPAVIC

        Whoops

        What you say may account for minor shifts in the DJIA, but doubling market value from 7,000 to current 13,300 says something positive about the economy in which the doubling occurred.

        From 7,000 to 13,300 in four years is not chicken scratch and demonstrates that some correct moves were made.

        • JohnRNC

          Yes! Those numbers look awesome! And where is the associated economic “growth”? Why is the recovery so “sluggish”? Somebody(s) is/are making bank while others are still rotting on unemployment.

          Herein lies the problem – who is responsible for this disparity? Is the President? I think not. Unless you want to blame the regs that were enacted to prevent the kind of thievery that lead to the crash. I think it’s the folks that are sitting on the money that’s been made from the doubling of the market value.

          Where’s the trickle? I’ve been waiting to see this theory work for 30 years!

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/GCXB2EABXANRR2IK7QHS3TAPOU ROBERT C HASTINGS

            Hooray – damned good point! Eureka moment -just hope the Obama campaign figures that one out. That would make one helluva political commercial. Either trickle-down doesn’t work, or the wealthy have developed a severe case of constipation.

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            Or The Problem Is Both!! Trickle Down Only Works For The Wealthy And They Need More Fiber In Their Diets!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            It’s Time To Clean House People!! The Wealthy Is Holding Their Workers Hostage Trying To Get Romney In The White House People Get Your Resumes In Order Don’t Be Conned Into Letting Your Boss Threats Of Being Fired Help Romney Get His Self Serving Ass In The White House!!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

        Ahhhh Yes Fox Fake News Home Of Sarah Palin!!! I Do Believe They Are Getting Rid Of Her Crazy Ass Very Soon!!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

      And If You Don’t Know By Now This Is Just More GOP /Tea Party Bullcrap!!! Fear Mongering And And Looking For The Boogie Man Is One Of Our Favorite American Taliban Low Life Tactic That They Love To Do So Well!!! I Can See Russia Out Of My Window!!! Here’s A Clue Either Pull You Shade Down, Get The Hell Out Of The Window Or Move Dumb Ass!!!!

      • msrita

        Fern I Love all your comments.

      • FredAppell

        Fern, you are shit ass crazy and I love you. Keep up the great work. By the way, have you ever considered going into broadcasting. The conservatives have Rush, Glen Beck and a host of others. You are fearless, colorful and you tell it like it is. Thank you.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Ralph-Lackey/100001785091603 Ralph Lackey

        Thanks Fern, a breath of fresh air.

    • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

      Bear in mind that Republicans are well aware of the economic recovery, they simply don’t want to acknowledge it because the outcome of the upcoming election depends largely on the chimera that the USA is on the verge of total economic and fiscal collapse. You can rest assured that if Romney wins, the GOP will take full credit for the recovery the day after his inauguration.
      By the way, in addition to Wall Street investor confidence, I think it is also important to remember that we are the preferred customer for foreign creditors. because of the strength of our currency and our GDP, which is second to none.

    • dalnb

      Early in his term in office President Obama stated he favored repealing the Bush Tax Cuts on the most wealthy in our nation. The Republicans immediatly went to arms and claimed doing so would hinder any jobs development investment; the President backed off. In fact the wealthiest stopped investing in 2005 and to this date has done very little.

      America could be well on its way to national recovery if the Republicans had not obstructed every efforrt that may have helped Fix America! Had they spent half as much effort trying to help as they have in ensuring failure we would be beyond many of our employment and economic problmes. Their fear that ANY Obama success may be contrary to thier mission of failure has obstructed any attempts by not only Presidnet Obama but other Republicans and Democrats who have tried to get us back on track!

  • turtlewoman1039

    TWO un-funded wars of choice, costing, what, trillions at this point? But it is ONLY social programs, education, PBS, health care, etc., that are hurting the US… Wall st pit bosses had nothing to do with it, either…

    • http://www.facebook.com/john.eckert.564 John Eckert

      That damned Big Bird!!

      • TZToronto

        And to think that Big Bird is one of those things that actually works to make unjust wars less likely. Educate them when they’re very young to respect other people, and they’ll be less likely to want to kill other people for the sake of making money. Dubya and Darth Vader, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz were not children of Big Bird, and look what happened. The Soviet leaders who pursued the failed mission in Afghanistan (in hindsight, it might have been better in the long run if the Soviets had won) didn’t watch Sesame Street. Let’s face it. Sesame Street and Big Bird –along with all of PBS and NPR–are subversive to the goals of the far right.

    • http://www.facebook.com/clarence.swinney Clarence Swinney

      Lack of Revenue is important like excess spending.
      We MUST tax wealth to get revenue we need
      Since 1980, we borrowed 15,000B that let Inequality gain.
      The 2013 budget calls to borrow 901B and tax 2900B.
      We have 14000 Income. That is taxing at 20%.
      That is why we rank 4th on Inequality in oecd and behind Chile and Mexico As Least taxed.
      We must tax wealth like 1945-1980 that paid off wwii debt now pay off
      Republican Tax Cut Debt and Democrat social spending Debt.

      Romney must not win or we are bad off as he will increase Inequality
      with tax cuts and increased spending
      Obama will have increased spending by 8.6% to Bush 92%.
      1830 to 3510
      3510 to 3800

      We Must Tax Wealth. In 2010 25 Hedge Fund Managers made 22 Billion.
      Paid 15% tax rate and less than 1% payroll tax if any.
      Who lost 22 Billion?

    • msrita

      They said Obama Started these Wars? To say Obama is the worst President but is was DUBYA BUSH who never found weapons of mass destruction. He did say he would get Bin Lauden ooops that was Obama.

    • FredAppell

      Turtle, we are witnessing the total militarization of our beautiful country and President Dwight d. Eisenhower warned us of the Military Industrial Complex in his farewell address. The United States Military is one of our countries largest employers both directly and indirectly. Look at how many civilians work for weapons manufacturers and other military contractors. I live in Connecticut where we have a lot of civilians working for military contractors and we fight tooth and nail to keep them here every time they threaten to leave the state for greener pastures. Kind of makes you think doesn’t it. Under cut and under mine all quality of life programs and give, give ,give and give some more to the military. SCARY SHIT HUH!

      • vlcpolitics

        FredA – what gets my knickers in a twist is the republicans wanting to continue fight wars and even starting new ones, and none of them volunteering themselves or their family members to go do the fighting. They want other people to go die or get dismembered instead of themselves. That is so cowardly! And disrespectful and morally bankrupt. How can someone ask another person to risk their life for something they wouldn’t do themselves? Romney has no credibility with me.

        • FredAppell

          Yep. There’s money to be made in war. Historically nations have gone to war to pay off debts and replenish the national treasury. Of course that is only one reason to go to war. I believe that no nation has the right to go to war. Nations should only have the right to defend themselves. Preemption and invasion are immoral.

        • FredAppell

          I just wanted to add that America hasn’t fought a just and legitimate war since WW2.

          • 345_719

            Good point. Name one war we have fought since WW2 that has changed anything.

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            These Wars Are Raged Just For The Money It Makes For The Greedy Rich Man And Believe Me Plus Do Your Homework And See The GOP/Tea Party American Taliban Is Behind All Of These Money Hoarding WARS!!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

          And Did You See Ryan Working On That Very Crap Of Staying In These Wars !!! Joe Told His Off Real Good ” What Do You Want Us To Do???? Ryan All But Said They Real Agenda ( Keep Fighting These Wars So WE Can Make More Money) It Time To GO!! Let Them Guard Their Own Land!!! We Trained Them It Time To GO!!! Ryan Just Got Himself A New Butt Holes Ripped Out Of Him !! Joe Biden Did Just What Was Needed Nail These LIARS TO THEIR LIES!!!

        • 345_719

          For all you military personel who are pro rommney remember when it nwas time to step up and be ready to serve our country , rommney ran to paris under the guise of being missionary. (as if they needed one) All to avoid the draft. This is a man that is rattling the sord!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

            More Of These Raging And Beating The War Drums Are Either Draft Doder Or Rich Chicken Shit Thug Who Will Never Serve Nor Do Their Family Members But They Don’t Mind Sending You, Your Family And Friends!!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    Money could start growing on trees and Republicans will insist it is a calamity because the crops are socialist poison.

    • http://www.facebook.com/clarence.swinney Clarence Swinney

      Since 1980, three R Presidents:
      took 600B budget to 3500B(less wjc itsy)
      Debt from 1000 to 10,000B
      Surplus to 1400B deficit
      Jobs to 99,000 per month from Carter 218,000
      Initiated our involvement in 10 foreign conflcits
      Crashed S&L–Housing-Banking–our international reputation
      with foreign wars
      Alienated 1500 Million Muslims with invasion of Iraq a destitute unarmed nation of 15M adults.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RGOUPZ3JYNMPBVOHLZRCRVRD6Q ivory69690

    seems and sounds like another war like the one with the north and south . well this war between the GOP ding dongs and the greedy bastards of the 2% are join together to fight the middle class hmmmm 98% of the ppl. fighting the GOP ding dongs and the greedy bastards 2% that war should end fast im sure there will be a lot of spy that the GOP an the 2 % will try to buy but in all im sure the middle class will over come . that would be a good war get rid of the ones that are holding the country back and being greedy tryiong to fill their own pockets

    • http://www.facebook.com/clarence.swinney Clarence Swinney

      Top 2% need a tax cut. No. Tax increase. Own 50% financial Wealth and get 30% individual income.
      In 2008, top 50% got 86% individual income and paid 12.5% tax rate.
      Thus, We borrowed the deficit.
      We rank 4th on Inequality in oecd.
      #3 Least taxed behind Chile and Mexico
      #2 least tax on corporations

      We must take more of that top 10% Wealth and pay our way.
      Big spender Obama. Will increase spending by 8.6% to Bush 92%

      • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_KOPKDFAUQPIIRAFI3HEXNMSHLQ Ed

        Somehow americans refuse to believe the repubs when they say they want to drown government in a bathtub!

        • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

          After They Sucked All They Could From Government!! ALL Of Them Got Help Or Is Getting Help From Government They Just Don’t Want You Getting Any help!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ETO6XHVOBOSSKO7KEGSOB5QNJA james

    You can play with numbers any way you want. The rate might be lower but Republician congressperson we complaining about the cost to continuing extanding unemployment benifits.
    No one in Congress has said no more importing anything but jobs. No one means both parties. If you want to do something for the US tell China they can keep made in China we want made in the USA

  • ExPAVIC

    More Than Denial

    Go back a short time ago when the depression flames were licking at our butts. Obama had begun to repair the eight years of damage done by GWB and things weren’t falling in place as they should have.

    Out of the clear blue comes the fat, moronic retard Rush Limbaugh who states ” I hope he (Obama) fails in his attempts at a recovery.” Nice huh? This from the ultimate spokesperson of the American Taliban Republicans and a clear picture of what and who they stand for.

    If you liked GWB, you will love RoMoney-Ryan, the latest in trickle down BS advocates.

  • http://nefariousnewt.blogspot.com NefariousNewt

    It only counts when Republicans do it. If a recovery is managed by a Democrat (Clinton, Obama) then we hear the drumbeat of “taking back America” and “restoring America,” as if the only way a recovery could take place is because the Democrats have somehow magically re-written American society wholesale.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/NPJLVBZ26RIVHXWGLIEW6NJ7QA Fran

    It is good to wake up in the morning…to see such educated people posting these comments here..which is the truth of why we are still in the mess we are to a certain extent…but, these people are showing and proving that there has been lot of improvement in the economy….

    It isn’t dummies that are posting these comments as usual…thanks to ski3928….John RNC who has posted two awesome comments and to Ex Pavic and to the turtlewoman1039…
    I pray you guys rub off on others to post such educational remarks…below is one of the remarks I agree to 100 percent
    Yes! Those numbers look awesome! And where is the associated economic “growth”? Why is the recovery so “sluggish”? Somebody(s) is/are making bank while others are still rotting on unemployment.

    Herein lies the problem – who is responsible for this disparity? Is the President? I think not. Unless you want to blame the regs that were enacted to prevent the kind of thievery that lead to the crash. I think it’s the folks that are sitting on the money that’s been made from the doubling of the market value.

    Where’s the trickle? I’ve been waiting to see this theory work for 30 years!

    And another posted by turtlewoman1039
    TWO un-funded wars of choice, costing, what, trillions at this point? But it is ONLY social programs, education, PBS, health care, etc., that are hurting the US… Wall st pit bosses had nothing to do with it, either…

    Thanks ski to starting off these comments so, we can react in a good way

    As you all know only bad news sells. But at the same time if the stock market is a leading indicator the improvement means that the movers and shakers and investment decision makers agree . They are actually committing money and betting on economic improvement. So what is a better indicator political talk or actual investment managers actions???

    And another comment by John RNC

    True, but the stock market tends to “react” to all the other economic indicators (e.g. consumer confidence, unemployment, etc.) as well as political talk. It’s a very incestuous system. These days the “economy on Main Street” lags way behind the stock market – as it should. The kind of volatility we’ve seen over the last few years makes the stock market a poor indicator of the overall state of the economy.

    If the Republicans had participated in anything other than obstructing Obama, then the two sides could compete for credit for the improving numbers. As it is, the Republicans find themselves unable to do anything other than fabricate an environment that justifies their case. Hence, you will never hear positive economic news on Fox as long as there is a Democrat in the White House.

    Thanks to ExPavic

    True, but the stock market tends to “react” to all the other economic indicators (e.g. consumer confidence, unemployment, etc.) as well as political talk. It’s a very incestuous system. These days the “economy on Main Street” lags way behind the stock market – as it should. The kind of volatility we’ve seen over the last few years makes the stock market a poor indicator of the overall state of the economy.

    If the Republicans had participated in anything other than obstructing Obama, then the two sides could compete for credit for the improving numbers. As it is, the Republicans find themselves unable to do anything other than fabricate an environment that justifies their case. Hence, you will never hear positive economic news on Fox as long as there is a Democrat in the White House.

  • Curious kitty

    As an elderly home bound woman I personally know two young women who have been unemployed for several months who found permanent jobs last month.
    Another situation that an Internet contact talks about is the company she works for insists that their employees work 7 days a week . And often 12 hour days. Why not hire additional employees ????? I’ll guess with you!!!!

    • DurdyDawg

      The guess is simple.. Continue to keep the unemployment stats at an unreasonable level. Once the pubs take control people will only work 6 hours a day making employment rise by 200 percent virtually over night (this will also insure that b’ness won’t have to pay overtime or benefits as it would be below 40 hours).. It’s nothing but another GOP ploy that was agreed to by big b’ness but their promises have not gelled (they are no closer to winning than they were when this election farce began) so big b’ness says,”We will not hold out for another four years” and in pub logic, things are falling apart..In the interest of the nation, things are improving.

      • msrita

        I fell bad for you

  • stsintl

    Romney-Ryan claim that their economic plan would produce 12 million jobs. However, the data over four decades [1968-2008] shows that under the best annual economic growth rate of over 3%, under Carter presidency, just over 1o million jobs were added. Also during the sixteen years of Republican leadership of Ronald Reagan [81-84], G.H. W. Bush [89-92], and G.W. Bush[00-08], barely 10 million jobs were added with a mere 1.14% annual GDP growth. Those were better economic times than what Obama administration inherited from the Bush boys/girls. At best Romney-Ryan claim is a wishful thinking, and at worst it is bait and switch fraud.

    The basic problem is that the Neo-Republican Party comprises the Neo-Capitalists, the Neo-Nazis, and the Likud Zionists. All three entities don’t believe in SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY and are against everything, including WORLD PEACE. First day they take over the government, we will see the shock and awe bombing of Iran and Syria, just as we witnessed the shock and awe bombing of Baghdad under false pretenses of WMDs. What amazes me is why the polls are so close?

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JCDYOUQPDL6RBF2WIQY7IHJ4BM batavier

    The GOP/Teabagger hybrid is more “Death-on-Pleasure-of-any-kind” than Calvin himself ever was – except, of course, if they keep it restricted to their private $50,000-a-plate dinner parties…
    To think President Carter got Hell for uttering the word “MALAISE”!

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Andrew-Rei/100001727442607 Andrew Rei

    Some things to remember about today’s Republican Party:
    They have three factions: moderates (a quickly dwindling number of them); Conservative Wrong-Wing Nut Jobs (“Cons”) and Tea Party Militia members (Teabaggers or “Baggers”).
    The Cons are basically avarice-fueled aristocrats and have been around for more than a century. The Baggers are a recent and eventually fatal infection of extremist and ignorant idiots that will most likely lead to the party’s death on 6 November, 2012 and a splitting of it into Con and Bagger parties.
    When you talk to a GOPer, what you hear is GOP BS, hypocrisy, talking points, deflections and distortions. Their favorite form of hypocrisy is “projection”, where they accuse their opponents of having their weaknesses.
    The current Republican Party has 8 cornerstones: bigotry, hypocrisy, elitism, fascism, greed, corruption, incompetence and arrogance. I’m writing about the last cornerstone, arrogance, in the last of my 8-part series about those cornerstones on Facebook later today.
    The last (and only the third) good GOP President was Dwight “Ike” Eisenhower (1953-1961). Since then, GOP presidential administrations have been full of the eight cornerstones.
    The other two good GOP presidents were Abraham Lincoln, the first GOP president, and Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt.
    The Republican Party started as Northern Liberals fighting Conservative Southern Democrats in 1854. It took US Grant being elected in 1868 and only until 1872 before the Cons took over the GOP and drove the Liberals out.
    A few years ago, a commission of scholars and historians came together to rate the presidents. This commission would meet again a year later to rate our current President, Barack Obama. In the first meeting, the scholars and historians agreed that nine of the bottom 10 presidents were Republicans. The lone Democrat in the bottom 10 was seventh-worst. The worst three, in my opinion: US Grant, George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan. All three of them were in the Commission’s bottom five.
    When the Commission met a year later, President Obama found himself in the top 20. Bear in mind that more than half of the scholars and historians on the Commission were Conservatives.
    Unless you belong to three groups of “people”, you’re an idiot if you vote GOP. Those three groups of “people” are: fetuses, angry rich old white men and big corporations. Seriously…if you aren’t a part of those groups, the GOP don’t give a flying f*ck about you.
    The GOP Cons and Baggers have declared war on reality and the truth. They prey on the uneducated and get those unintelligent people to vote against their own interests, a fact which defies explanation. Perhaps how the GOP does this is a secret too dangerous to know.
    The GOP’s shameless propaganda arm is Fox “News”. Their war on the truth is so bad that the Canadian version of the FCC denied News Corp., the parent company of Fox “News”, a broadcasting license…that’s right: you can’t watch Fox “News” in Canada unless you have a satellite dish and service that gets it.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/RFEPMKNCBVGJYV2X7LBNDGRUEY William

    Nothing positive will ever come from the Republicans except their pie in the sky if elected. Why are they down on Social Security and Medicare? If it wasn’t for Social Security would Paul R have been able to get the education he got? So how does he repay his good fortune, by trying to privitize Medicare and Social Security. I guess he feels I got mine and to hell with everyone else. Did he get these ideas from the teachings of the Rand books he’s now running away from?

    • 345_719

      Yes lets privitize social security so we can invest our money in companies like Eron!!

      • FredAppell

        Precisely, and when our investments ( retirement) go belly up the GOP will turn around and tell us all about personal responsibility and how we made poor choices in where we put our money.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/43ZQGGZPH4XAL3T4CNK5A2DTYE Bill

    The Republican party existed with Abraham Lincoln and ended with Ronald Regan. (look at Nixon and George W for example) Two very dangerous clowns Could be humerous if they were not so socially damaged. Anyway, As Andrew states, the republican party scares hell out of me. I dont think American is ready for more wars, cut backs, big banks and wall street shenanigans.; despite the repub controlled house who refused to cooperate with the Democrates to add more jobs, we are beginning to see significant economical changes for the better. If we are truly the greatest and wealthiet nation in the world, then surely, we need to care for our sick and aged citizens. Repubs will deny this. The middle class no longer exists. They want jobs and a chance. Keep Obama in the white house four more years, give him the chance to keep this economical ball rolling.

    • 345_719

      The republicans started bad mouthing Obama before he was elected.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Jones/827014412 Daniel Jones

    The republican party is rapidly becoming the party of the government *against* the United States of America.

  • Runiblu

    Biden was great but in my view he missed two opportunities: 1. Mitt is generous and says he’ll pay for a church member’s child’s college education. Well, that is just fine but how does it help the thousands of other kids who don’t have a fairy godfather? Come one Mitt – how would you fund education grants for not so fortunate kids???? Biden should have jumped on this one.

    2. Ryan’s persistent criticism that President Obama didn’t leap into the Libya killing of our ambassador and get the terrorists even without actually knowing who the killers were. Right – just like the Republican administration insisted on a war with Iraq over WPD that didn’t exist. Biden should have pointed out how complete information makes a difference and acting on half truths can be a disaster.

    • vlcpolitics

      Runiblue, agree with your 1st point. Biden also did give a response equivalent to your second point. At least I thought so.

      • Runiblu

        He did respond sort of. I would have liked him to be more forceful. I appreciate your comment.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/GCXB2EABXANRR2IK7QHS3TAPOU ROBERT C HASTINGS

    A question I have, and I haven’t seen it addressed in this forum,yet, is why wasn’t George W (or George H W, for that matter) at the GOP convention. I realize he was the chief architect of the 2007 crash that he didn’t acknowledge as a recession until just a few months before he left office, but, having watched pretty much all Republican and Democratic conventions since the 70’s, I cannot recall any other conventions at which living presidents were not in attendence. This is not only deviating from tradition, it seems disrespectful, on both sides. After all, the president has always been the chief standard bearer of the party. While I have my own ideas as to why W wasn’t there, I don’t think it was just because he no longer wanted to be in the public’s eye. And, of course, it is undeniable that the economy is vastly improved over what it was when W left office.

    • DurdyDawg

      You do know that certain countries have an on-going bounty out for Dubya (dead or alive). To these countries he’s considered a wartime criminal. I don’t think I’d show my ugly face in public without tons of security not knowing who had read and are willing to turn bounty hunter. He’s protected here but not from hijacking and once he’s caught it will cost America dearly to get him back (think war criminals transfers incarcerated here). As far as the old man? I’m sure he’s proud of his alcoholic idiot.

    • vlcpolitics

      The repubs know George W is a loser so they are trying to keep people from looking in the closet so they don’t remember how he trashed this economy. I haven’t forgotten, and I never let anyone I know forget.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X2KKGDYW2F5T5XUT6233KBNWSI robert

    Ain’t no stoppin’ us now. We’re on the move. There has been many things to tear us down, we’ve been through the worse and things are finally turning around. Republicans think things are going too slow, ask them where we’re going, they-don’t-know. But we won’t let that bring us back, we’re going to pull ourselves together, we’re going to tighten up our slack, yeah. Ain’t no stoppin’ us now. WE’RE ON THE MOVE!!!! GO AMERICA!!! SHOW THE WORLD WHAT BEING AMERICAN MEANS!!!!!! WE’RE BETTER THAN WHAT THE REPUBLICAN/TEA PARTY IS PORTRAYING US TO BE!!!!! WE CAN DO THIS!!!!! VOTE!!!!!!!!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/X2KKGDYW2F5T5XUT6233KBNWSI robert

    you can;t be wealthy and not have constipation. they like to eat, but they don’t like to shit. romney is a case in point. what we are seeing are measure put in place during the so-called democratic congress. it’s a slow growth that’s bearing fruit, and there’s more where that comes from. stay tuned. it’ll get even better.

  • http://www.facebook.com/schirmerdon Donald Schirmer

    Apparently the American public enjoy all the lies Romney and Ryan made espcially my son and his wife, They love Romney. I can’t stand the man.

    • vlcpolitics

      Donald S you need to cut off their faux news life line. Some people can’t admit when they are wrong even when it hurts them so they go along with their bad decisions. Too sad.

  • ReadTheFactsFirst

    Tried living in a Republican town like Amarillo, TX, the local newspaper Amarillo National News prints bad news like nothing. It gets everyone depress and down here. When you turn on the local news station same thing is reported. Their opinion pages are full of opinions downing America and its improvements. But nothing on news that will hurt the Republican candidate, no wonder states stay Red or Blue, they need to tell us everything not just one thing or another. We have a couple of Obama signs here compared to thousands of Romney signs here. Wow how confused are we.

    • vlcpolitics

      The republicans count on propaganda because it is their life blood. The truth is death to them and that is why they don’t go near it.

    • FredAppell

      That is why the Republicans are so against any federal power. They aren’t afraid of the the federal government usurping power, that is only a clever rues they are using to control the ignorant. The GOP’s real agenda is to destroy the Department of Education because god forbid all the children in the United States should learn the same thing. They have been pushing hard for more states rights for their own personal agendas. The GOP realizes that if the standard of education is to high then the automatons would cease to listen to them hence diminishing their support.

  • msrita

    I spent a little over 5 thousand dollars to makeover my Living Room, Dinning Room and Bed Room. Thanks to Living spaces.

  • http://twitter.com/Racyman57 Ray Ward

    The GOP aren’t denying the economic data, they are trying to convince us that it is somehow rigged. The last thing they want is for America to do well. These proclaimed patriotic Republicans don’t have the welfare of the vast majority of Americans as their priority, they want to be able to lie their way to the Presidency, or suppress enough votes to put maybe the most spineless candidate we have ever seen into the most powerful office in the world. Romney has no real values or beliefs, except maintaining an economy and tax code that guarantees that himself and those in his income bracket can thrive, even though the vast majority of Americans don’t reap the same rewards. He is a coward. He is a Tea Party puppet, who sometimes forgets his marching orders and changes his mind on his policies and beliefs. He hasn’t met a political view he hasn’t liked, at one time or another. He became a Governor in a traditional liberal state as a Pro-Choice, Pro Gun Control, Pro National Health Care, Pro Medicare………………candidate. He is running for President generally supporting the totally opposite views, depending on which day it is and who he is addressing, at the time. This is a man who has stated that he won’t even reveal alot of his policy details (probably because he doesn’t even know them) until he is in office. This is the son of a popular Governor who basically set the precedent for releasing several years of taxes, to eliminate any ethical doubts, who refuses to release anymore taxes than absolutely mandated. I have seen nothing to convince me that he won’t repeat the same failed polices that President Bush did and that the results may be even more devastating, as Bush inherited a balanced budget. Romney could destroy this country and half of the American people will be directly responsible for voting him into office, based on lies and misinformation and their own ignorance and racism.

    • FredAppell

      Very well said.

    • vlcpolitics

      Totally agree with you Ray! Who hires a person without seeing their resume? This nonsense from Romney about not revealing his policy until he get the presidency is ludacrist! I need to see the plan first. How can I decide if he would be good for the country if he won’t let his plans be known. His sketchy, paper thin promises, and lies are insulting. I’d like to try getting a job by telling the employer I’ll show my resume only after I get the job.

    • 345_719

      I don’t know where you get that George Rommny was a popular gov. You have’t talked to many michigan residents then. Other wise I agree with everythig you said.

    • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

      Very Well Said My Friend And It’s Also True!!! Romney Plans Are Bush Plans On Steroids!!

    • TZToronto

      Tea Partiers think they have some influence, but they are now Tea Puppets. The multi-billionaire supporters of Romney and Ryan have co-opted the Tea Party and framed their own agenda in Tea Party terms. Tea Party supporters will be just as much the victims of a Romney/Ryan administration as the rest of the middle class (and the poor), but they think they still have some influence. If they were still relevant, they’d be demanding to see Romney’s tax returns, and they’d be demanding to hear the details of what Romney/Ryan plan to do if elected. Have you heard from the Tea Party lately? No? That’s because the real Romney/Ryan supporters suppress the questions the Tea Partiers would like to have answered. The only positive thing that could come from a Romney/Ryan victory on Nov. 6 would be a total alienation of people who think they are part of the Tea Party. After all, when the people you think were on your side when you voted for them turn against you, who will you vote for next time–if you are still eligible to vote?

  • onedonewong

    They let the crazy uncle loose form the basement again, hopefully they caught him and took him back. Only in =Biteeme’s world would 4 million fewer americans working today then when he took office would talk about adding jobs… Joe its simple math there are Fewer americans working than when you took office NO JOBS HAVE BEEN ADDED

    • bck2yu

      Joe Conason is right, factually correct.
      You are wrong. And you’re obviously an a**hole.
      Go away. Do some reading. LEARN SOMETHING.
      Until then, stay the hell away from here. You’re
      embarrassing yourself.

      • onedonewong

        Looks like Village idiot is loose again

    • vlcpolitics

      ondong, cover yourself, your blissfull ignorance is showing!

      • onedonewong

        The only ignorant one I saw was Joe Biteeme and his followers. The Nation has lost 20 points in its collective IQ over the past 4 years

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JDOXI2KMWOOWQITKP23LE6W4RA Juventino

    Indeed we have a great president, as present and future American generations will be learning form.
    Where are all those beting against America? The tea party (cartoon patriots), The Mitch Mccannells’ whose goal number one is ‘defeat Obama’ by sinking America in the process ?(they were, indeed making it hard for Obama, that now, have to respond for almost failing America?) They are keeping quiet, for now, because we America, are waking out, and soon, we may call them to the balance, including those of the U.S. Congress. Obama 2012!

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/43ZQGGZPH4XAL3T4CNK5A2DTYE Bill

    When the dust settles and all the recriminations are analysed, the american people will re-elect President Barak Obama. Think of it, he is for a better life for all americans, romney wants abetter life for big business. Obama wants to restore the middle class, Romney likes it the way it is., He still believes trickle down economics is best for us, this is a worn out statement that has never worked. Romney wants the medical profession under nis control, Obama wants the american people to control their medical and prescription drug needs., Arnt we the richest, greatest nation on earth, tthenhe nwhy shouldnt our seniors who have worked hard and paid for the benefits have them. We can cut political salries, inforce they get the same med. insurance that we do., no automatic full retiremet benefits after only one term. Keep term limits limited to 4-6 yeas, we sure dont need well paid full time p;oliticians. Pass laws that if the cant or wont do the peoples business, fire then as any other industry and hire another. We the people. , We the people, dont forget those words, exercise our power the control the destiny of thus great nation. Obama is entilted to 4 more years.and if he doesnt perform to our benefit, fire him too but dont elect a flip flopper going in.

    • docb

      The Democratic Legislature of the Common Wealth of Mass created the education environment that succeeded while romney VETOED the bills and was over ridden..

      He was approached 3 times to invest in Staples and resisted only later investing $1.7 million taking out 7 times that in fees and bailed early..within 2 years! He later invested personally but he was not a a willing or active investor ..only took a management role that he was paid for!..We do not need a minimum wage economy like Staples who’s average salary is $15,000 of part time workers as a model going forward! That model is what decimated the Middle Class over the past 20 years under the LBO / romney model!
      He lied about the jobs created there we 24 storefronts at Staples when he bailed not 24,000!… The USA had 8 years of liars in bush/cheney and look what it got us! We need not elected two more of the lying ,tax cheating , and hiding ilk!

      romeny, the kock bros, and rove and the romney NeoCon advisors left over from Bush cheney are not for America but for the 1%!

    • 345_719

      Obama will win ,unless the republicans find thousans of votes in some church basement again.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Y4RZ2U6A7BHLQIS2F5AEYDYI64 raymond

    Trickle down does not work! It just makes the rich richer, if they want to make more money all they have to do is invest in there company, the minimal tax relief would have not affect. They just want corparate wellfair and let the needy starve. Greed Greed Greed.

  • TZToronto

    Thanks to employment at will, employees who complain about being forced by their employees to work unreasonable hours, even without payment of overtime, can be fired. Given the large pool of unemployed workers, there will always be someone willing to work 84 hours per week for minimum wage and not complain about it. This is what we can expect as the norm from Romney and Ryan.

  • emptyarch

    I have said from time to time that it takes the following term for the plans put in place to take effect in any economy. In this case, in the USA, it is actually happening in the last year of the term. An election year. Thanks be to God. I pray that the people of the USA are awake.

  • dalnb

    Throughout 2011 and into 2012 the Republican party was using their radical radio and televised media talk show hosts to tell America that “this is not a good time to start a new business, expand a business or hire new people.” Their intent was to mislead employers as a part of their “Mission of Failure” against the Obama Administration. Our unemployment numbers continued to remain high based in-large part to the success of the Republican followers of Senator Mitch McConnell’s publically proclaimed efforts to see the Obama Administration fails

    America could have been well on it’s way to national recovery had the Republican and Tea Party followers of Mitch McConnell’s “Mission of Failure “ worked half as hard at helping fix our problems as they did in creating failure.

    As a registered Republican I have elected to NOT vote for ANY Republican who has shown any support for Mitch McConnell’s mission! I am so completely disgusted with the tactics of the Republican party in the past 12 years that I will find it difficult to vote for any Republican.

    Dwayne Burgess

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