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Wednesday, September 28, 2016

I Didn’t Think I Needed To Point Out Why One Idiot’s Marital Infidelities Aren’t Even Similar To A Policy Agenda

How is one dude sending dick pics different from an entire political movement making a calculated effort to roll back women’s rights?

Conservatives want to know!

Since nauseating revelations about Anthony Weiner and Bob Filner‘s unusual dating habits have emerged, Republicans have been trying to invoke a “War on Women” by these two Democratic men against all women. They’re hoping — despite the antics of David Vitter, Mark Sanford, John Ensign, Newt Gingrich… — to smear the left as the real source of women’s problems, as if being a bad husband were a partisan issue.

The Nation‘s Jessica Valenti took a break from her vacation to answer this #AskJessica question from her “trolls.” Enjoy.

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  • Sand_Cat

    GREAT RESPONSE TO THE WEINER QUESTION!!!!!!!!

    • InsideEye

      No male should be allowed to vote on a woman’s issue. Someone woman legislator should introduce a bill and I am sure it will pass….and as a proper bill rider, Women should vote for castration of males if they vote otherwise. This is outrageous already….and I am a male.

      • WhutHeSaid

        Are you serious? How does a group of knuckleheads voting like neanderthals warrant a bill to physically mutilate all males? I know that some men attempt to improve their luck in the dating scene by exaggerating their support of women’s rights, but don’t you think that’s just a little absurd? Perhaps you should try some new clothes, a better cologne, or increase the frequency of your bathing to daily rather than monthly.

        • InsideEye

          My point is that a woman’s issue should be their choice and no interference from males; of course the mutilalation/ castration for male voters on woman’s health issues is a bit hyperbole , because these males do not have anything to remove. Males should mind their own business. I am not here to pick up chicks.

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          • WhutHeSaid

            Unfortunately males won’t mind their own business any more than females will avoid voting on issues that affect males. Since there is no gender requirement for voting on issues, the next best thing we can do is educate voters on the issues. We need more outreach to educate the goobers who sit in their trailers drinking Bud while watching Fox News or ‘Here Comes Honey Boo-Boo’. I think both rank at about the same level when it comes to quality of information (Honey Boo-Boo may have an edge here).

      • Erin Argast

        No male should be able to vote on women’s issues? Good idea. And only hispanics can vote on immigration, and only 18 to 24 year olds can vote on war, and only the poor can vote on Foodstamps, etc. Yeah. That should work.

        • InsideEye

          I was referring to the issue of woman’s” health ” . Immigration is not a Hispanic problem, all people who are here illegally or over stayed their visa, are not citizens and could not vote .

          Whites after-all fought /died the highest goal, for Black emancipation, thanks to a forward looking Republican, Abraham Lincoln. As for 18 and 24 year olds who go to war, they altruistically do so from also a higher calling ,to the citizens of this country….thank God…..can i say that! and volunteer, they have the option of refusing. The poor do vote for food stamps …it is the Democratic way.:)

        • plc97477

          Great ideas. see if you can get elected and put through those laws.

      • angelsinca

        According to your logic, those that aren’t wealthy should have no say in spending the money of those that are.

        • Sand_Cat

          Seems to me that’s more your schtick.

          • angelsinca

            The cat_box never fails to add that personal insult to just about every comment. .

          • Sand_Cat

            That’s because you invite them by your own. Liars and hypocrites such as you just beg to be insulted, then act shocked and offended when they get what they deserve.

          • angelsinca

            Your twisted brain still believes disagreement is lying. As an avid foillower of the Obama, you too must blame your actions on others. We need leaders not excuse factories.

          • Sand_Cat

            Just an observation. Seems to me it was pretty close to the mark. And there you go again with that name-calling and personal attacks.

  • doninsd

    It seems the neocons have lost every real battle so far, and their frustration leaves them with nothing to do but scream about any little event in an effort to remain relevant.

    • Dominick Vila

      What leaves me perplexed every time I hear it is women defending the GOP/TP attacks on women. Is it brainwashing, ideology or insecurity?

      • topjob66t

        Except for the GOP women who are pandering for political reasons, who will say what her constituents want to hear, I think you can scratch the surface of these woman and see a crazy xstian there. So I believe a woman who goes along with this insane attack on their own gender is either politically motivated or are part of the fundy side of insanity.

        • angelsinca

          ” I think you can scratch the surface of these woman and see a crazy xstian there”

          Not likely. What consitutes an ‘attack’ is sadly mistaken anymore for the government not paying for services. Since they won’t pay for my dental work, there MUST be a war on teeth being ignored by the MSM. lol

          • topjob66t

            Oh that is just a stupid statement. I can’t even break your sentences down to make sense.
            For one thing you say that you are upset that Government services are being cut but your teethe were never covered by the government unless you worked for the government and had Blue Cross Blue Shield. Which covers dental.
            I just don’t know what your beef is and I suspect I will not know soon from your posts.

          • angelsinca

            Sorry you are having difficulty understanding. The comment about dental work is an allegory for the supposed ‘war’ on women. I never said I was upset by cutting gov’t services, ever, except when access to the gov’t is restricted due to political posturing, as Obama is doing with the WH tours. I don’t like being used as a pawn by politicians.

          • topjob66t

            I am inclined to believe that you have no clue to what sequestration has wrought. I am also inclined that your understanding of anything is fractured and swirls around misinformation. Please do not be offended if I fail to respond to your posts in the future.

          • angelsinca

            “Please do not be offended if I fail to respond to your posts in the future”

            Thank you. No offense taken. Appreciate the release; I was growing weary of your propensity to blame others for your confusions.

          • Dominick Vila

            The curtailment of White House tours is consistent with the Republican focus on spending reductions, and the effects of the sequester. I saw Secret Service agents posted throughout the WH when I visited that facility twice. I realize that the amount saved is minimal, and that this decision was meant to be symbolic rather than a major contributor to spending reductions, but every dime we save is bound to help reduce the deficits, our propensity to borrow as a result of refusing to pay for what we need and benefit from, and accumulation of debt.

          • angelsinca

            The lecture on debt is too little, too late as we continue to operate this government under a $.65 trillion deficit. It appears you don’t mind being used as a political pawn by this community organizer.

          • Dominick Vila

            This “community organizer” happens to be the President of the United States. I don’t mind if you decide to call Fidel and Raul whatever you want, but please be a little more respectful when you talk about the President of the country that granted you asylum the moment you set foot on our shores.
            The reason for deficit spending is simple, the government is spending more than its revenues. The options are equally simple, raise more revenues to pay for what we need and benefit from, or do without. Instead of the usual platitudes why don’t you give us a straight answer as to what you believe should be cut? Here is a short list of items for your perusal:
            Social Security
            MEDICARE
            MEDICAID
            DoD
            Center for Disease Control
            Air traffic controllers
            Border patrol
            Port authority
            Airport security
            Intelligence agencies
            Customs
            INS
            State Department
            Treasury
            NASA
            NOAA
            Transportation
            Education
            Hint: the first four items account for about 85% of the budget. You could eliminate the rest and still run a deficit.

          • Sand_Cat

            The comment about dental work was – as is usual with you – completely irrelevant, driven buy your inability to face opposition to your ideas based on something other than the basest of motives and your desire to make it appear you’re talking about the topic in question while avoiding the real issues.

          • Sand_Cat

            Yes, it’s always about money for you, even when no one else is talking about money.

            This is about the right to make one’s own decisions, what I believe you right-wingers call “liberty” and “personal responsibility.” Efforts to restrict women’s healthcare apply to all women, whether they need government assistance or not.

      • angelsinca

        Since you can’t think like a conservative woman, let me help with this one. An attack is attack, regardless of ideology. Women, especially conservative ones, have a natural aversion to attacks on their own kind (gender) and will defend their sisters irregardless if the attack is coming from another woman.

        • Dominick Vila

          Hillary Clinton did an excellent job explaining what we knew about the attack against our consulate in Benghazi. What many Americans don’t seem to understand is that Benghazi was not the only vulnerable U.S. diplomatic facility in the world. In fact, most are. Al Qaeda, its affiliates, and groups that are not affiliated with Islamic fundamentalist groups, are determined to do us harm for a variety of reasons. Attacks against our diplomatic missions can – and have – take place anywhere at any time. You have to go no further than the twelve (12) attacks against U.S. embassies and consulates when George W. Bush was in office to understand the dilemma we are facing. Short of building bunkers with large military contingents to defend our facilities and interests, we have no choice but to rely on foreign government’s security personnel and an elusive dose of common sense and respect to prevail.

          • angelsinca

            Circumstanmces that resulted in the deaths at Benghazi had nothing to do with GW Bush. Extreme efforts to prevent revealing why those Americans died that night can’t be explained with a ‘the world is not safe’ diversion.

          • Dominick Vila

            The same is true for the attacks against 12 U.S. embassies/consulates when former President Bush was in office, and the resulting deaths.
            Yes, the circumstances we are facing – and have faced for a number of years – resulted in the deaths of 4 Americans. Come to think of it, it resulted in the death of 3,000 people in New York City and Washington DC on 9/11/01. The name commonly used for it is terrorism.
            It was accepted and understood by everyone when it happened a few years ago. That acceptance, which was influenced by common sense and the reality of our circumstances and limitations, went out the door when the President of the United States was a Democrat and when the Secretary of State was a woman who will, very likely, be the Democratic nominee in 2016. The change of heart was not influenced by evidence of wrongdoing, alas, if that was the case the people that were in office when our consulate in Karachi was attacked THREE TIMES would have been impeached or fired. The reason is not because Benghazi is different from all the other attacks, but because it is a convenient line of attack for a party devoid of ideas and a measurable record of achievements.

          • angelsinca

            You still don’t understand the issue with Benghazi. Or, you just don’t want to confront that the inactions of Obama and the Secy’s of State and War resulted in a harrowing non-rescue and eventual sacrificial deaths. They could have affected a rescue but refused and won’t admit they could have at least TRIED to save those people. It isn’t aboout the body count, Dominic. It isn’t about the attack on foreign soil. It’s about the complete abandonment of those Americans to die. It is the denial of answering details of the stand down orders. It is the effort to silence everyone asociated with the incident by the Obama administration. It is the minimalizing of the scandal by the president and the indifference to the families of those killed. Just as it for the families of the thirty killed in the Extortion 17 massacre and the families of those killed from ‘workplace violence’ by the admitted terrorist at Ft Hood. The victims of those tragedies, including the surviving families don’t deserve the pedestrian equivalency judstifications nor the arrogant dismissals of their concerns by you or Hillary or this president.

          • Dominick Vila

            President Obama never “minimalized” the magnitude of the tragedy in Benghazi, on the contrary, he could not have been more supportive towards the families of the victims. The reasons for not dispatching jet fighters to intimidate the terrorists was because there were no tankers in the area to refuel them and allow them to return to base in Aviano, Rota or Torrejon. Leaving our embassy in Tripoli was an option, but not a good one. You don’t compromise the safety of one facility in an attempt to save another. Had they done that and had the Embassy been attacked the topic of discussion today would have been why did the administration compound the problem.
            Every embassy and consulate throughout the Islamic world, and in other parts of the world, are vulnerable to this day. Everybody understood that when 12 diplomatic missions were attacked and dozens killed when former President Bush was in office. The reason for the sudden interest in blaming the incumbent President and the former Secretary of State for something they could not prevent or solve in real time is not because this tragedy was different from identical attacks when Republicans were in control of the White House and Congress, but because it serves as a convenient line of attack to discredit a President who has managed to reduce terrorist attacks to a minimum, and demonize the record of a strong candidate for the Presidency.
            As for Ft. Hood, you may want to ask yourself the same question for all the domestic terrorist attacks that have taken place in the USA during the last few decades.

          • angelsinca

            “You don’t compromise the safety of one facility in an attempt to save another”

            You probably wouldn’t Dominic. We know the president wouldn’t, thats’ for sure. In my world, duty and honor don’t allow sacrifice as a solution. It would have been dangerous and volunteers would have been found. They weren’t allowed to even try to save them, Dominic. You are now only making excuses for the cowardice that night.

            You are again trying to minimalize the deadly result of Obama’s judgment by emphasizing unrelated accomplishment.

            Same for Ft Hood. Instead of acknowledging the massacre by Assan as a terrorist attack, you gsther other unrelated domestic terror attacks into the frey (along with past presidents) to carry blame away from your president. rah, rah, sis boom bah. You go, cheerleader.

          • Dominick Vila

            First of all, a detail consisting of four security officers were dispatched from the embassy in Tripoli and arrived in Benghazi minutes after the two former Navy Seals were killed in the consulate annex by mortar fire. Secondly, no military officer or anyone with an ounce of common sense would jeopardize the security of additional U.S. facilities deliberately.
            Maj. Hassan is being court martial. The judge is a U.S. Army Colonel. The decision to charge him with multiple murders instead of an act of terrorism is simple. There are plenty of eye witnesses and evidence to prove that he murdered his victims. A death sentence is guaranteed. If he is charged with terrorism the prosecutor will have to establish a link to a terrorist organization. Since there is no evidence linking him to a terrorist organization the outcome of the trial would be very much in question. Moreover, why should we give Hassan the opportunity to justify his act and claim martyrdom, which is what he wants?

          • angelsinca

            It took how long to get help to Benghazi? ALL night lont nearly 18 hours. Jets could have been scrambled frim the 7th fleet. in the Med.

            Lots of excuses why ASSan is not a terrorist with zero consideration for the vistims. The dead, wounded and families won’t be receiving purple hearts or continuing compensation as the terrorist is. The refusal to identify the horrendous act as terrorism is only a political one. See?, the ‘terrorists are on the run’, Obama says so. To demonstrate this and to amply ignore future inside terrorist acts, guns have been banned on bases around the world, making it easier to kill Americans. Nice policy began by Clinton and expanded by Obama.

          • Dominick Vila

            I suspect you would have liked nothing more than a Carter-style rescue attempt to zero in on the man you hate. Navy and/or USAF jet planes were not sent to the scene of the terrorist attack for two reasons (1) there were no tankers in the area to refuel them and allow them to return to base and (2) because zero range bombing was not a viable option when there was still hope that some of our personnel were still alive.
            Again, the reason terrorism has not been brought up during the Maj. Hassan court martial is because it could result in acquittal, which is the last thing the families of the victims want. He murdered several people in cold blood and the easiest way to find him guilty is to charge him with murder. Turning him into a martyr is not a good idea.

          • angelsinca

            “I suspect you would have liked nothing more than a Carter-style rescue attempt to zero in on the man you hate.”

            That’s absurd. Only a despicable fool would wish tragedy to gain political points. Though some would see it as ‘opportunity’. I don’t hate your president. I am just disappointed in the constant blame and inability to act like a leader of the entire nation, and not just his own party.

            Thanks for trying Dominic, but I already know all of the excuses offered by Penatta and Clinton for not effecting a Banghazi rescue. What we haven’t heard is the truth about who gave the order to stand down or why the Naval commander that had a rescue plan was fired by Obama. Or, why the WH insisted on propping up Susan Rice to deliver an obvious falsehood regarding the reason of the attack.

            There is no excuse for these officials intentionally misleading the public. If it was for nat’l security reasons because of illegal gun running, it would’ve be better to know than to be lied to by this administration, again.

            Ft Hood-How in the world would the witnessed murderer of the soldires at Ft Hood possibly be acquitted in a non-military trial? Even a jury stacked with bleeding hearts wouldn’t possibly let him off. Very weak excuse, Dominic. You are usually thoughtful and mindful of reasonable truths.

          • Dominick Vila

            If you are an American, President Barack Obama is OUR president, not just my president.
            Ft Hood, you confirmed my point, the reason Maj Hassan is being court martialed for murdering numerous fellow soldiers is because there are several eye witnesses to testify to that regard. If the charges were terrorism, the prosecution would have to prove that he is a member or was in contact with members of a terrorist organization. Since there is no evidence to support that fact, the easiest way to convict him is to charge him for multiple homicides. It is also important to remember that Hassan has been demanding to be tried as a Jihadist, ostensibly, because he wants to become a martyr.

          • angelsinca

            “If you are an American, President Barack Obama is OUR president, not just my president.”

            My family has been in N. America since the early 17th century, but I’ve only been an American for about 60 years. I have an unaltered birth certificate to prove it.

            I probably won’t be recognizing the Obamas as anything more than a pair of disbarred lawyers with uncertain pasts that are living large at the country’s expense.

          • Dominick Vila

            North America includes Canada and Mexico, in addition to the USA. Glad to hear that you have an unaltered birth certificate, so does President Obama, our First Lady, and everyone born in this country.
            My point was beyond birth certificates, however. Most Americans respect the Office of the Presidency, and we accept the decisions made by the majority of our fellow citizens, regardless of whether or not that decision is inconsistent with our expectations. When former Presidents Reagan and Bush II were elected, I was dismayed, but I never considered them someone else’s presidents. For better or worse, they were OUR presidents, even when I found out about Iran-Contra, the invasion of Grenada, trickle down economics, the ineptitude that contributed to 9/11, the lies used to justify the invasion of Iraq, irresponsible tax breaks at a time when spending was going up, excessive borrowing and accumulation of debt, and socio-economic policies that almost destroyed our economy and way of life. In spite of all those things, both were OUR presidents. Obviously, there are parts of North America that don’t share our values and the need to respect our form of government, even when we disagree with the policies of an incumbent president.

          • angelsinca

            “…socio-economic policies that almost destroyed our economy and way of life.”

            ‘Almost’ is the key word. Fast tracking to the PRESENT, Everyone’s ‘way of life’ HAS changed under this president, mostly for the worse. The nation’s credit has now tanked under Obama. The borrowing continues under Obama. The deficit spending continues under Obama. The flailing economy continues under Obama. The reduced hours and uneasy investing permeates all business forced to comply with the ACA scheme under Obama. We have gone from 3 full time jobs for each part time job to FOUR part times jobs for each full time job under Obama. Nice legacy. I am an American, Dominic, not that it matters. It is sad to see what your president has done to promote choas, disharmony and uncertainty on every social and economic front he encounters. At least he is no stranger to vacationing and blame. Oops, there goes another $100 million. It must be the GOP’s fault.

          • Sand_Cat

            It’s about the inability of people like you to admit that for all-around dishonesty and cowardice and real scandals about real things, this administration could never come close to Nixon (who at least did some good things), Reagan, and GWB, with your resultant pathetic efforts to inflate every misstep by any Democrat into a major national crisis. Instead of facts, you present wild speculation, or just make it all up. And on top of it all, you project your own grotesque dishonesty, intolerance, and malice on those who oppose you.

          • angelsinca

            Opposition is healthy and invited. Blame and non-truths are not appreciated. The left you herald from would like nothing more than to completely silence your critics with total censure . The smart liberals are just now beginning to realize agressive name calling and hostile personal attacks aren’t effective anymore. Get with the progam cat_box.

          • Sand_Cat

            Ugly as blame can be, those who whine about it the most are often those who deserve it the most. Are you suggesting you should escape blame for the things you support with your vote?
            As for un-truths, one of the things that makes it difficult to have a civil discussion is your repetition of what I consider to be flagrant untruths. And about aggression: we got off to a bad start because your snide, patronising response to someone else’s perfectly reasonable post on the subject of religion enraged me, especially combined with what I regarded as your dishonesty in dealing with the atrocities committed in its name. On occasion I have tried to be civil, but just about the time I start to think you might be a reasonable person after all, I see another nasty post repeating what I consider to be absolute lies that someone of your intelligence should be able to see through. Perhaps you feel the same about me, or perhaps not.
            I have not and would not attempted to “silence” you or anyone else, nor would I support any measure intended to really silence you by denying you the right to vote. While you have not been a passionate exponent of these laws on this forum, your remarks on several occasions lead me to believe you support them, and they are supported by especially transparent lies, and in some cases, not even that: open bragging about guaranteeing GOP victories has been all over the news.

            You really have no idea what sort of “left” I herald from, but I could never even begin to approach the censors and would-be censors from today’s right.
            Finally, you’re really something to complain about name calling and hostile personal attacks. You’re the one who complained about leading with insults and expecting hugs and kisses in return. The names I use are in my opinion accurate descriptions of the persons at which they’re directed, as they show themselves through their posts here, or I wouldn’t write them. You, like many of the right-wingers who come trolling for a fight on this site, have more than once attempted infantile toilet and / or bodily function humor using my screen-name, and not in a good-humored way. I chose it because I consider it a beautiful and interesting animal, not so a bunch of juvenile morons with nothing reasonable with which to respond could make pathetic cracks about it, but if that’s your thing, it says far more about you than it does about me.

          • angelsinca

            You should say how you really feel. The candor is appreciated. Still nothing but generalizations to justify false accusations of lying. I’ve grown to expect one thing from a liberal blog; uneasonable hate toward conservatives. As mentioned numerous times before, I don’t come here for the usual anti-conservative abuse, or to a pick a fight. Besides feeding a masochistic streak, I visit to witness the latest propaganda trends oozing from our liberal friends.

          • Sand_Cat

            Unfortunately, we’ve come to expect the same from you:defense of the indefensible, so long as it’s the GOP doing it. Don’t accuse us of false accusations and unreasonable hate and then turn around and defend it when it’s your guys.

          • Sand_Cat

            But they can by right-wing fantasy and lies, and trying to make a mountain of a molehill.

    • angelsinca

      “It seems the neocons have lost every real battle so far”

      That position seems to change everytime your president is called out on another deception, incompetence or illegal act.

  • michaelross

    It’s the old “They do it too!” playground argument. They have literally given up on trying to pretend there isn’t a war on women and are now trying instead to excuse themselves by claiming everyone else is at war with women too.

  • Landsende

    Representative Tom Price (R) of Georgia stated after voting for the 40th time to repeal the Affordable Care Act that “we believe patients, families, and doctors should be making medical decisions and not Washington D. C. and not the IRS”. If the talipublicans really believe that why do they keep passing laws taking away women’s rights to make their own medical decisions?

    • 4sanity4all

      Because logic and consistency were never their strong suit?

    • topjob66t

      Awesome observation Landsende. I think 4sanity4all might have come pretty close to an answer. Logic definitely is not on their side.

      • See John Dean’s ‘Conservatives Without A Conscience’ for the reason why republicans have trouble with logical consistency. (In brief, he points out that progressives come from the age of enlightenment while conservatives hale from an earlier time when the world was miraculous and didn’t necessarily make sense. Thus, they aren’t bothered by logical consistencies to the same extent that progressives are.)

    • angelsinca

      You are trying to apply comparative logic to disimilar actions. Abortion isn’t usually a medical decision. It’s a lifestyle choice.

      • LotusJoan

        I take it that as usuually with the right your remarks were not intended to be factual.

        • angelsinca

          As usual wit the Left, when facts don’t support its narrative, they claim someone is lying.

      • Sand_Cat

        We all know you prefer to believe that, so go ahead.

    • Dominick Vila

      You may also want to consider why those politicians who find Washington’s involvement in healthcare so objectionable, don’t hesitate to propose invasive procedures before abortions take place. Why is it that Washington’s efforts to make medical care available to everyone is so evil, but proposing to insert a scope in a vagina is perfectly acceptable?

  • Erin Argast

    Has the GOP forgotten how women stood by Bill Clinton during his Monica Mess, etc, troubles? The GOP is too disconnected from women to be able to ‘play’ them politically, as they so often try, and fail, to do. Women will generally vote Democratic…because the Tony Weiner types are flawed individuals. What the GOP offers-as an alternative-is a flawed party, flawed plank, and flawed principles.

    • topjob66t

      Didn’t Jindal come out with a report card recently asking the GOP to straighten out their act or go down in flames? He said “recalibrate the compass of conservatism” he said. Even Reince Priebus came out with a report. Titled Growth and Opportunity Project that was geared to get the GOP back on track.
      And all this advice and admonishment from these leaders were ignored. Are being ignored.

      • angelsinca

        When America had to put up with the president’s penis in its face for a year, we didin’t need a vulgar CNN blogger to report that he was a Democrat.

        • topjob66t

          I’m pretty sure it was Monica’s face and not the Nations. Not sure what you are referring to anyway since I went nuance and all and you went right back for the wiener.

          • angelsinca

            Somehow, I failed to see the nuance in the statement, “How is one dude sending dick pics different from an entire political movement”. Really.

          • Sand_Cat

            I think it’s a question, actually.
            I think that’s what the post was about: your inability or unwillingness to see.

          • angelsinca

            Whether it’s a question is irrelevant. You missed the point of unnecessary vulgarity. To be clear, I even paraphrased the example. That too was lost on the sand_cat.

  • FredAppell

    I do believe the young women in the video is quite naive in her assessment. We shouldn’t be so dismissive of those who commit infidelity. For me, infidelity is a
    major issue and a powerful character flaw. Infidelity doesn’t just destroy a marriage, it also effects children and other family members. I can’t trust anyone who could act so thoughtlessly and recklessly towards those that they have made a commitment to. If a person could do that to family and friends than what are they capable of doing against their constituents? Partisan Politics be damned, a scoundrel is still a scoundrel.

    • Sand_Cat

      I don’t think she’s being dismissive of infidelity; she’s just saying it’s not worth wasting the effort to demonstrate against it when the other party’s whole policy is an offense against women’s rights.

      • FredAppell

        I appreciate what you’re saying but I call them like I see them. There is no difference in my opinion. Sure as the day is long, the next Republican that gets caught with an extra marital affair is going to be deemed unfit by the rest of us. Weiner is no different and I can’t be so partisan as to give him or any other Democrat a pass on something I feel strongly about. I can’t trust anyone who would be so callous towards those he or she professes to love.

        • Sand_Cat

          The main reason Republicans are called out for this sort of thing is that they present themselves as “profamily” and hasten to pile on Democrats they claim don’t meet their super judgmental standard, which of course they never apply to themselves. The hypocrisy, not the marital infidelity, is why they are “unfit.”
          It’s tempting to use any tool one can find against opponents as ruthless as the Republicans, but their infidelities would likely not be news (or as newsworthy as they are) if they weren’t always preaching their version of “holiness” to the rest of us.

          • FredAppell

            They certainly are good at preaching values they can’t live up to aren’t they? This may be a bit unrealistic and unfair but I have always held firm to the idea that people who have it all should be held to a higher standard than the rest of us. When someone with wealth and status (politicians, public officials or celebrities) intentionally act in poor conduct, they deserve our scorn and shouldn’t be forgiven or forgotten too soon. I’m not trying to persuade you to agree with me Sand_Cat, you wouldn’t be you if you agreed with all the crap I spew at times, I don’t want ditto heads, that would make life very boring if we all believed exactly alike. All my views have been forged from personal experiences
            in my life which sometimes leads me to change or tweak my positions. Just know this, I stand with you on every women’s rights issues, actually I stand with you on almost all social issues
            but I have a tremendous disdain for all political parties and religious organizations. We all deserve better than what we’re getting 🙂

  • montanabill

    Holy throwing sh…at the fan and hope it hits something, Batwoman! Never mind the sordid acts of individuals who wear your party’s labels. Quick find some way to point the finger somewhere else.

    • Sand_Cat

      You must be the Joker, right?
      You obviously missed the whole point. Did you even listen to it?

  • JohnRNC

    She’s right. There’s no need to waste any additional effort on Anthony Weiner. Demonstrate disapproval for his behavior by not voting for him. What Congress and many state legislatures [such as NC] is doing to women’s rights in this country is equivalent to making them second class citizens [again].

    • angelsinca

      “Demonstrate disapproval for his behavior by not voting for him”

      That’s impossible outside his district. Dispproval can be exercised simply by ignoring him and behaving as an appriopriate example.

      • JohnRNC

        Very true – which also proves my point. He’s not worth it. He’s {obviously) a scumbag. So why waste the effort. If he’s a real “threat” then contribute to his opposition and his defeat. Otherwise, he’s a perverted clown. If he has no power; he’s not a threat. Therefore ignore him and pay attention to those who ARE in a position of power to pass laws against Women’s Rights. Don’t be distracted. CHANGE CONGRESS and let Weiner flounder on his own.

      • Sand_Cat

        Again, you missed the entire point. You were too busy making up lies about an entirely unrelated issue.

        • angelsinca

          Where are the lies, moron?

  • Dominick Vila

    The latest attempt to turn the tables around is either a sign of desperation or cynicism on steroids. Marital infidelity is one of a few examples of bipartisanship in Washington. If the behavior of the last two idiots caught cheating on their wives is evidence of attacks on women, what should we conclude from the behavior of people like Newt Gingrich, the former Speaker of the House, Louisiana Congressman and former Governor Livingston, Nevada Sen. John Ensign, and South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford to name a few?
    Marital infidelity my men and women does not constitute an attack on the opposite gender. It is a reflection of character flaws, lack of moral values, and lack of respect for the spouse and the entire family by an individual rather than a political party or a segment of a society.

    • angelsinca

      “Unfortunately for them (the GOP/TP), women are not the submissive ignorant partners they believe they are.”

      Sigh. When you say something often enough, it STILL isn’t fact.

      • Dominick Vila

        Instead of r3j3cting the opinion of others, why don’t you illuminate us with your wisdom and tell us what the facts are? I readily admit that I do not understand the constant attacks on women rights by some Republican politicians and right wing pundits. It is precisely because I don’t understand their apparent determination to self-destruct that I offer some possibilities for their behavior and actions. Let me remind you of a couple:
        1. The statements by some Republican politicians minimizing the psychological and physical consequences of rape.
        2. Attacks against reproductive decisions, other than those made by male dominated legislators and judges.
        3. Statements and insults such as the one directed against Sandra Fluke by Rush Limbaugh for having the audacity of using contraceptives.
        …and the list goes on and on. Again, what surprises me the most is not what the Neanderthals say about our mothers, daughters, and sisters, but the fact that so many women accept the punishment and often approve of the attacks directed at them.

        • angelsinca

          You have the entire conservative rank and file of the GOP/STP sized up as believing women are ‘submissive ignorant partners’. Sounds incredibly awkward that you would base this on a few remarks by a few idiots. Word for the day: STEREOTYPE.

      • Sand_Cat

        When you deny it often enough, that still doesn’t make it untrue.