By @LOLGOP

LOL Of The Week: From Golden Boy To Sacrificial Lamb

November 25, 2012 1:47 pm Category: Memo Pad, Politics 98 Comments A+ / A-
LOL Of The Week: From Golden Boy To Sacrificial Lamb

Not counting his sweet government health care, his months of vacation time and his anachronistic job security (unless slimy Eric Cantor slides out from under him), Speaker John Boehner has a terrible job.

Sure, though his candidates received fewer total votes than the Democrats in the recent election, he kept his large majority in the House of Representatives, and likely will until at least through 2020—thanks to the ridiculous gerrymandering that followed the 2010 election.

But this only means his caucus—even with the defeat of poster nudniks Allen West and Joe Walsh—is more settled in its extremism. His members’ only fear? A more extreme Republican beating them in a primary.

That will only happen if they do something crazy, like vote for higher tax rates on rich people, which the president has vowed to make them do.

Meanwhile, Boehner is facing the reality that if his party loses Texas as they have California, it will cease to be a national party in a decade or two. This is what’s known as an existential problem. Thus, he’s going to need some Republicans to vote for some immigration reform sooner rather than later. That’s not going to be easy.

But first, he needs to deal with the messy matter of the expiring Bush tax cuts and the “sequester” on spending that would directly affect the bottom line of Republicans’ favorite corporate sponsors.

The speaker knows he’s facing a president who just won an electoral college landslide and garnered nearly five million more votes than his party’s “electable” candidate. And this president is threatening to ramp up his killer campaign machine to push for the end of the Bush tax cuts for the rich, a policy already supported by about 6 out of 10 voters.

So what can Speaker Boehner do?

Throw Paul Ryan—the losing running mate of the “electable” candidate—into the fire.

Yes, Boehner named Paul Ryan to be a part of the “fiscal cliff” “negotiating” team.

LOL.

This is perfect poetic justice. Paul Ryan voted for every Bush policy that blew the surplus, he was behind the showdown that led the downgrading of our debt and his budget proposal is so toxic that he had to be hidden during the last weeks of the campaign. Who else would Boehner want to negotiate on his behalf?

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  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Don-Ramsey/100001577804530 Don Ramsey

    After a number of months spent debunking Paulie’s magic budget, even the GOP has come to the realization that they were duped by this charlatan. They bought his speil because he said what they wanted to hear (sound familiar?), and nobody bothered to look too closely. They were badly embarassed in the end, and now the author of their embarrasment is going to be the one to pay.

    • http://www.facebook.com/fern.woodfork Fern Woodfork

      They Knew Paul Ryan Had A Rotten Budget Bill They Just Don’t Give A Damn!!! These GOP/Tea Party American Taliban Really Give Less Than A Damn About This Country And The People That Live Here Their Only Agenda Is Power, Control And MONEY!!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_7DKWSXHQIDBW5PUAPZ2HZAYYUY Baron Cormac

    So that means that Cryin’ John only has to worry about Cantor trying to take his job.

  • nobsartist

    the punk wisconcin is an amateur like boner. I figure they are all in for a surprise.

    they are going to have a lot of explaining to do because pain is coming to them and their supporters.

  • NotRappaport

    ” I said he’d be worse than Sarah Palin. That’s debatable—but at least Palin won her home state in 2008.”

    Every Rethuglican ticket wins Alaska.

    • CPANewYork

      Also, at least she has nice legs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    With Republicans like Graham, Chambliss and King announcing willingness to compromise on the issue of higher taxes for our highest earners, people like Paul Ryan are inevitably moved to the sidelines. The debate on the tax issue has moved from intransigence to how to achieve a common goal.
    President Obama proposes a small increase in the tax rate for individuals earning over $200K and married couples making over $250K a year, plus a capital gains increase, and an increase in the estate tax rate for people with assets over $3.5M. He is, essentially, proposing to revert to the Clinton era tax model for our highest earners, while leaving the tax rate for the remaining 98% of Americans unchanged. The GOP prefers to achieve the revenue goal by eliminating unspecified loopholes and by placing caps on deductions used by top earners, rather than raising tax rates. The bottom line is that progress is being made on this issue. Instead of saying no, the argument is now about which way would be best to achieve the revenue goal without impacting the economy.
    The real problem is going to be the battle over entitlement cuts. Specifically: MEDICARE. Hopefully Paul Ryan’s dismantling plan will not raise its ugly head again. A possible compromise on this issue may involve an increase in the contributions made by wealthy MEDICARE recipients.

    • adler56

      Medicare is NOT an entitlement- Maybe it’s a 1/3 entitlement or 1/2 for some but since
      Medicare recipients paid in to the plan and continue to pay in ($1000 a year for plan B)
      how can it be called an entitlement? Food stamps aren’t paid for by those receiving them- SSI isn’t paid for by people getting it- tax breaks for oil companies are more entitlements than Medicare- IMO.

      • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

        The largest entitlement programs are Social Security, MEDICARE and MEDICAID. Veterans administration benefits are often included under this title. The term “entitlement” implies guaranteed benefits in exchange for the contributions we made throughout our professional lives. Specifically, fiCA contributions. It is also important to note that retirees continue to pay MEDICARE fees after we retire. I pay $300 a month in MEDICARE fees, plus $371 a month for supplemental insurance to cover the 20% that MEDICARE does not pay. The problem with MEDICARE is that outlays exceed revenues by about 17%, and it requires funds from the general budget to cover expenses. That is why MEDICARE is on the chopping block and legislators are trying to figure out how to reduce its dependence on general funds to remain solvent. The MEDICARE problems were exacerbated by the 2003 Part D reform. Means testing,involving higher contributions by wealthy participants, is one of the approaches being considered. Fortunately, Social Security is solvent and does not need help. However, raising the contribution cap above $106K seems like the right thing to do to offset the influx of baby boomers and prepare for future demographic changes that may result in an untenable contributor/beneficiary ratio.

        • adler56

          That may be what entitlement means to you but to repugnants it means “FREE”.

          • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

            Believe me, there is nothing free about Social Security and MEDICARE, we pay dearly for the benefits we get in return for contributions we make throughout our lives, and even after we retire. Neither SS nor MEDICARE are welfare programs, they are entitlements because we are entitled to receive the benefits we were promised in exchange for the contributions we made.

          • adler56

            Then let’s call them insurance programs since they work the same way. Republicans believe entitlements means free- we need to stop calling those programs entitlements.
            Insurance premiums paid often don’t reach the amount paid out- that seems to be the gripe republicans have with these programs- some people get back more than they pay in- so do insurance policy holders.

          • CPANewYork

            So do holders of investment securities.

          • myfanwy

            Republicans don’t believe for one moment that the so-called “entitlement” programs are free. That is just part of the negative spin to fool the public at large into thinking that the elderly are getting something for which they didn’t work; this would paint them as “takers” instead of “makers” in the divisive rhetoric of our day. As such, their fellow Americans could more easily tolerate voting for cuts to Medicare and Social Security.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/PMVMZMDLRQL3TRK5RNOHJVZPHU stoptheinsanity

            The problem is that Republicans have redefined the word “entitlement” just like they redefined the word “liberal.” With Faux News, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Hannity and other right-wing extremists, they have brainwashed their followers into believing that “entitlement” means free or handout. Social Security and Medicare are neither of these.

          • puzzled21

            The point is, the facts, as clearlyexplained as Dominick has done, can only be interpreted one way. Your personal view can’t discount the facts no matter how unacceptable/hurtful/disillusioning they are.

          • CPANewYork

            Now I’m “puzzled,” because i don’t see what you’re driving at. What is your point?

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dianne-Lee/100000857981424 Dianne Lee

          Good gosh, you need to start looking into changing your Medicare. I pay about $100 a month for the actual Medicare and ZERO for an Essence HMO that pays practically everything else. I spent 3 days in the hospital, ambulance ride, and followup and it cost me $480. Essence is only available in the St Louis area, as far as I know. But, you need to get busy because open enrollment ends on DEC 7, and you can do a lot better than what you’ve got if you look around.
          You might also be interested in a campaign called “Scrap the Cap”, which is pushing the idea that Medicare and SS fees should be paid on every dime of income while people are still working. Currently, fees are only paid on about the first $110,000 ( don’t remember exactly how much) but, it’s a relatively low amount. If the 1%ers paid on all their income, it would help keep Medicare able to support itself.

          • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

            I believe the current SS cap is $106K. That means that people like Warren Buffett and Bill Gates satisfy their SS contributions before sunset on January 1st, while the average teacher, carpenter or waitress pays 52 weeks out of the year.
            I believe people get too wrapped up on semantics. I could care less if Republicans – and the government in general – refers to SS and MEDICARE as entitlements or they want to call those programs something else. In fact, calling them entitlements reinforce the notion that they are not free and that they are not welfare handouts. We are ENTITLED to the SS and MEDICARE benefits we get because we paid for them, and in the case of MEDICARE, because we continue to pay fees even after we retire. The benefits we get from those programs are not freebies, those programs have nothing to do with welfare, and anyone who believes otherwise is delusional and so out of touch with reality they will be well advised to keep their mouths shut. If some Republicans interpret the term entitlement with welfare, that’s their problem to deal with. Perhaps they should go back to elementary school and figure out how to read and interpret a dictionary or Thesaurus.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Bush/1121719350 Michelle Bush

          Sooo, any program one pays into is “entitlement”? Maybe you should revisit the definition of entitlement. I have paid into Social Security and medicare. I also served my country with dignity and pride. When I left the military, it was with honors. I wonder how much “freedom” folk would have to conjure up such nonsense if it weren’t for those who serve in the military? Instead of parroting the rich, try doing something worthwhile with your time. Further research would help.

        • NancyQueenofScots

          Thanks for your clear comments. Many contemporary discussions are worthless because the definitions of terminology are not shared and understood.

        • Annemb

          Social Security is an insurance program which, over the years, employer and employee paid into. Medicare is an insurance program which I (and others) paid into. Medicaid and Veterans Administration benefits are not entitlements.

          I still say that health insurance needs to be taken away from the legislators who propose attacking these programs. BTW, even the other “benefits” they accrue while in office and supposedly serving the people.

          We need to be very leary with what the GOP proposes regarding moneys. A good many don’t even earn their salaries by working for their constituents who hire them to represent them.

        • Cairndance

          If they fixed the Medicare Part D drug program to allow for the government to negotiate prices, possibly that problem would be solved too?
          Every Insurance company negotiates drug prices, as does the VA, DSHS, Medicaid, etc. It was idiotic not to include Medicare!
          Thank you Dominick for clear thinking. I always look for your postings.

          • CPANewYork

            I voted for Obama, but it bothers me that he talks a lot and talks tough, but he doesn’t do much. For example, why haven’t those who caused the 2008 crash and continually violate the remaining banking laws been indicted, why hasn’t Part D been amended to permit the government to negotiate prices, why do we still have any troops in the Middle East?

            It seems to me that Obama is long on talk, but short on action.

        • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_5LCXMWHFPRMEYD4RWN56QE2FF4 Grunge45

          Social Security is not an entitlement, and has added surplus to the budget results. Medicare is a partial “entitlement”,especially for our Senators, Congressmen, and executive staff, and me dicaid is an entitlement. They all should be “reformed”, but not necessarily reduced. Getting rid of fraud and contributions to insurance companies for “Medical Advantage” would help to balance budgets.

          • myfanwy

            Medicare Part A is funded primarily by payroll taxes, which end up in the Hospital Insurance Trust Fund. These payroll taxes are shared by employee and employer. . Social Security is also funded by payroll taxes, which are based on the employee’s earnings and shared equally between the employee and employer (7.5% each). Everyone who is employed, either by a private company or government agency, pays Social Security taxes from each of their paychecks. Social Security does not contribute to the budget deficit. That is the law. Social Security is financed by a designated tax, the 12.4 percent payroll tax that workers pay on their first $107,000 of income each year. The money raised through this tax is used to pay benefits. Any surplus is used to buy U.S. government bonds. All funding for the program comes either from this tax or from the bonds held by the program’s trust fund. Social Security is self-funded and does not contribute to the federal deficit.
            Medicaid is a U.S. government-sponsored program primarily offered for low-income individuals and families. Medicaid programs are offered to those who have trouble paying for their health care through a dual funding stream between state governments and the US Federal Government.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joan-Maurer/100000910841619 Joan Maurer

          Welcome back, you and your informative comments were missed.

        • SueTX

          The very best thing that could happen would be Medicare for All, or a single payer system. This would move younger people who cost less into the coverage, while contributing to the larger pool.

        • CPANewYork

          There are trillions of dollars being held in offshore tax shelters. Congress can remove those shelters and expose every dollar to the applicable federal taxes.

          Consider this: Assume that there’s “only” $1,000,000,000,000 in offshore accounts. Multiply that by the maximum income tax rate of thirty-five percent and we get an immediate tax receipt of $350,000,000,000. Even if we unrealistically assume a ten percent tax rate, the immediate receipt would be $100,000,000,000.

          Why bother with these piddling tax rate increases? Go for the big bucks. Go for the offshore tax haven money.

          • Jeronimo Dan

            That’s easy, their not going after the big boys, because most Congress people have their money in these accounts. That would be to them, like pulling your gun and shooting yourself in the foot…

      • http://www.facebook.com/william.quigley.73 William Quigley

        Medicare part B is currently $1,200 per year! It is not slated to go up next year

        • Revcarrie

          William Quigley, Medicare part B just DID go up starting Jan. 1st. My husband and I just got notified of the change AND the negotiations haven’t really even started. The Republicans got their way bfore anything even started. All Medicare premiums went up $5 starting in January and since Medicare starts taking $5 dollars more in December for the January payment, we get $5 less in December BEFORE the raise comes in January. $5 doesn’t sound like much but when we got it BEFORE anything was even decided on in the way of cuts……what is going to happen when the negoiations actually start and are voted on? IF the rich got the same percentage of a tax increase all Medicare people just got in a decease, we likely would not have to go any further with either tax increases or cuts!!!!!

      • Dianes4babies

        Absolutely correct!!

      • CPANewYork

        I see your point, but $1,000 a year is peanuts compared to the benefits that we receive.

        • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

          I realize we are discussing semantics, but let’s not forget that the term “entitlement” simply means we are entitled to receive the benefits we were promised in exchange for the contributions we made. The GOP plan to cut SS and MEDICARE benefits denies contributors the right to receive what was promised to us. They are, in effect, telling us “thanks for your contributions all these years, but since the wealthiest Americans are being asked to pay their fair share in taxes, we are going to renege on the promisory note we signed and will cut the benefits you are entitled to receive to make sure our constituents are happy two years from now”.

          • CPANewYork

            You’re right: We’re talking semantics here and to little purpose in my opinion.

            These rich Republican bastards don’t care if we paid premiums or not. They want to punish the middle class to extinction. They want to create a plutocratic oligarchy.

          • BDC_57

            They want us to become third world country.

      • http://www.facebook.com/nancy.kielmaupin Nancy Kiel Maupin

        By definition, medicare is an “entitlement”. So is social security. They are entitlements because everyone who pays into the program is “entitled” to benefit of the program. You can not be denied medicare or social security benefits because you make too much. The financial benefits of these entitlement programs kick in for most people when they meet set mandated requirements, like age and lose of a spouse. If medicare and social security eligibilities were based on income limits. they would be welfare programs.

      • elw

        The problems with the Republicans is they do not believe in Social Safety Net programs like Medicare and Medicaid and will say and do anything to make them look bad. But the bottomline is it how we as a Nation want to spend our money. Conservatives think supporting business, the military and the rich are more important than maintaining a strong Middle Class and helping the weakest and poorest amongst us. Progressives feel that opposite. We have been fighting this war since the beginning of the 20th century, I do not think the disagreement will go away soon. We just have to keep fighting and voting for representatives who feel the same way we do.

    • CPANewYork

      Excellent comment, Mr. Vila. I’d be willing to may more for my coverage. Actually, there is a small surcharge now for us “high income” folks. My Medicare premium for next year will be about $42.00. higher because of the surcharge. It’s still a bargain.

    • Margaret Ryan

      There is ZERO evidence that anybody who signed the NorquistPledge will break it, just saying so isn’t doing so.

      • oldtack

        There is no evidence but I think we will see a large departure from the pledge for two reasons. If they stonewall on the Tax issue the GOP will bear the brunt of the blame and this perils these Senators and House members chances for re-election.

        Some are seeing the handwriting on the wall that signing a pledge to walk lock-step with the Party clearly places the needs of the Country second and their constituents will vote them out of office.

        They may not want to break the pledge but for self-preservation they will be forced to do just that.

      • CPANewYork

        Grover Norquist has no official position and his rich scumbag backers’ money couldn’t buy the election. Consequently, no one need care about any pledges made to Grover Norquist.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/43ZQGGZPH4XAL3T4CNK5A2DTYE Bill

      Dominick, I read your letters with intrest and respect., you are obviously educated and concerned for our nation. I voted for Obama as the best of the two parties running. I hope and pray the Senate and House can agree on a mutually beneficial plan for all americans. Onc paragraph you wrote about our entitlement and potential cuts and amendments. I think the term entitlement is in error. I am 79, worked all my life and my employer and I paid into the Medicare programs to insure my income at 65. This is not entitlement or welfare in any case. Personally, I dont think anyone in washington wants to take on the seniors of our nation. We all feel that we paid into and earned our social security retirement as part of our working plans for our future. I do know that in years past, our government has dipped heavily into the assets of this program. I dont know if all of these funds have been restored for our future generations. Our government has become more disfuntional these past 15 years or so, it isnt run as a business and has allowed Bush, nathional banks, Wall street and bailouts to throw the entire world into chaos. I hope our currant group of legislatures are smart enough to figure this out without another economic collapse.

    • Justin Napolitano

      Dominick, here is some information I think you would find interesting. Forty percent of the revenue the US government receives is from payroll taxes while Forty three percent goes to pay benefits for those programs. Simple math says there is a three percent difference. That difference, primarily from Medicare, is being paid by cashing in some of the special interest treasuries that are held in the Medicare fund. There is about 2.5 trillion dollars in the Social Security fund and I don’t believe that we are drawing on those funds at this moment.
      Medicare, after the Affordable Care act was passed, will be able to pay full benefits for at least 10 years but after that it is going to depend on whether we have contained health care costs or continue to let them increase at previous rates. Some rate increases in medicare taxes may be inevitable no matter what happens.
      Social Security is good for about 25 years but it too will be at the mercy of future inflation.
      These are, I believe, the entitlements that Republicans want to put on the chopping block but as you can see we don’t need to do much of anything for the next few years on these two vital programs. Everything else will have to be addressed, especially military spending and increased taxes, if we are to solve the deficit problem.

    • Annemb

      Great post!

      If Ryan’s Medicare plan should rear its ugly head, well…Off with its head!!!

      • CPANewYork

        Off with Ryan’s head.

        • Annemb

          Amen!

          …from another New Yorker.

          Blessings.

    • CPANewYork

      Who came up with the pejorative-sounding name “entitlement”? Probably some Tea party scumbag.

  • Jim Lou

    Boehner is between a rock and a hard place. He wants to keep his job but has to face reality.

    The reduced majority in the House means that he has very little squiggle room and even less clout.

    The question now is the soap opera that we are going to see on CSPAN. As the world turns so does Congress. Bring on the fiscal cliff, which should really be an abyss.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/T6B7C4DYAR37Q4YUO3Y2ZCI2MM Ken Bailey

    To quote McCain, “Palin was a better choice than Paul Ryan as a running mate” and that seems to ring true. Ryan is and has been damaged goods since his poor excuse for overhauling Medicare and SS. He is and always has been a loser. I suspect his alma mater is ashamed to be associated with the likes of Ryan.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      If his alma mater isn’t ashamed they should be. I’m not sure he even knows how to add, subtract and divide.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/BYDAIVJTZGBZ467TOPBA7MAE6E olafaux

    We Told U So!
    Good ole Ryan! This kis needs help. The kid is on the wrong side on a busy Highway. The kid is SPEEDING toward uncoming 18 wheelers. Ryan needs a Prayer. Quick. Kid? Repent!
    God bless America!

  • nobsartist

    As far as negotiating with republiCONs goes, I would insist on charging medicare and s.s on ALL income with NO exemptions first, then a minimum of 25% increase in tax rates on all earnings of $250,000 or more for both earned and investment income.

    That would be the line in the sand. Period.

    if ryan doesnt like it, “fiscal cliff” on 12.31. Budget reconciliation on 1.1

  • atc333

    As long as money, and the Right Wing rule the GOP, electable National Candidates will not be nominated by the GOP. Huntsman was the one viable candidate in the GOP Presidential Pack who could have given Obama a real run. . We all saw how far he got.

    Rationality does not seem to matter with the GOP. Even its most fervent supporters in the deep South don’t even consider the consequences of their votes, considering that they hold themselves out as “Fiscal Conservatives”, yet those very states are the ones with the highest average of citizens on welfare,and receiving the most Federal Aid, and who would have lost the most following a Romney/Ryan victory.

    Go figure.

  • Mimi2kool

    Karma will get ya every time. It is Lyin’ Ryan’s time to face the music.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/J7JWYLQAVYQ3VSE5MNLWEICMAQ Robin

    I think everyone that work for the GOVERMENT make,s to much money if i can live off 27,ooo a year barely with five kids why do they need to make beteen 150,00 to 250,000 they don,t do anything to make that much anyway i think if everyone made beteen 50,000 to 60,000 a year i think we can all make life a little better. what we need to do is get rid of the house and the senate give the PRESIDENT some new poeple to work with him and pay them about 70,000 a year that will free up alot of money for the economy let,s try that it might work .

    • imabrummie

      So, you believe EVERYONE who works for the Government makes too much money! Try telling that to the many among us whose pay is such that they qualify for Food Stamps! It aint all beer and skittles being employed by a Government entity, except for those at the top who are grossly overpaid for their abilities. Most of them are nothing but overpaid desk jockeys! Let’s face it, if they were so good at what they do, this country would not be in the sorry state that it is.

    • tobyspeeks

      After reading your comment, Robin, I can tell teachers aren’t paid enough.

      • CPANewYork

        Tobeyspeeks:

        The teachers on Long Island are grossly overpaid. The School tax portion of our property taxes are sky high because of the pay and benefits that the teachers presently receive.

        They only work nine months out of the year, so take their stated salaries and divide by .75 and you’ll calculate their real salaries. Add also their “sabbaticals” and the salaries that they get for performing ancillary functions like coaching the athletic teams.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_MFPDFRWZZAKO4XJXNLUG3DI65Y Anthony America

    I always thought it was we the people; not; We of the Grover Clan

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      Sadly, what many Republicans fail to see is that the people they vote into office see them as at best 4th rate citizens, or maybe they don’t care. When a GOP Rep, Sen or Pres crafts a new piece of legislation or decides on how to vote, his or her first test is: 1) will this honor my vow to Grover Nordlquist; 2) will this really help the country and make a Dem president look good? If so I need to vote no; 3) will this put more money in My pocket of some of My rich donors? If not I have to vote no; 4) maybe lastly, will this help my constituents (without helping the country too much or raising taxes by $1 but yet giving me money to put in my pocket).

  • 426tt_64

    Let me tell you, I just watched the second in command for the Teapublican Senate and the second in command for their House, and they both said that Entitlements/ our 2 contracts with the US Government have to be on the table or nothing is.

    Yes I said our 2 contracts, since the beginning of the USA a contract can be struck by a Hand Shake, Signing a Document, or Exchanging Something for Something, therefore when me and you turned 18 and began our working careers and the US Government Exchanged money from our 1ST pay checks and the same amount of money from our employers, and everyone until we retired, so it/the money could be put into an Interest Bearing Account, to be used by us at retirement/ age 62 years for Social Security and 65 years for Medicare, that folks was/is a Contract with the US Government and it must be honored like all other Contracts, that is the Law of the Land.

    Remember you and I did not create this Budget or National Debt it was done by the US Congress, present and past. It is their mess and has nothing to do with our 2 contracts, S.S. and Medicare is not, has not, and can not be mixed in with the mess that Congress has made of our country.

    • Sand_Cat

      ALL CONTRACTS ARE BINDING AND MUST BE HONORED unless they are with unions or senior citizens, in which case they aren’t worth anything to the Republicans.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/Q5SW5PGUSZ36JVB3JGYNPDT5KA Larry

    ryans a self centered fool..

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      You were a lot more polite than I would have been: I think he’s a lotl more evil than just foolish.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/WAYM6CPMQ3M6RRKE6TA2MN2QYQ Rex H

    3 BIG Cheers for The Nuns On The Bus.
    They are my heroes and they deserve a lot of credit for standing up to that twerp Ryan and his damn budget.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      I sure appreciated their effort; it’s just really unfortunate that so many in the GOP have their heads in sand so far that they couldn’t or wouldn’t accept what the The Nuns on The Bus were trying to tell them. Maybe like so many of the Pharisees, God has written off a lot of Republicans to the point that he’s hardened their hearts also so they can’t see the truth when it’s right in front of them.

  • CPANewYork

    It’s going to take until “at least 2020″ to wrest the House from Republican control? That’s not good news. What is the basis of that prediction, numerical control based on party affiliation?

    Hopefully, when they see the tide turning agsinst them, the more moderate Republican members of the House will see the wisdom of voting for more middle class-favorable legislation. After all, what have the rich done for us lately?

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      Unfortunately, you’re probably right about wresting control of the House from the GOP. Sure hope that some Republicans come to their senses and show some common sense by voting for legislation that is favorable to those besides the people who already have more money than they deserve.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dianne-Lee/100000857981424 Dianne Lee

    Cantor has not exactly been a great Boehner supporter. Boehner represents the moderate wing of the party, and Cantor sees his path to the speaker’s job or possibly the White House as going through Boehner with the radical wing of the party as his power source. Consequently, he has stabbed Boehner in the back frequently enough that he could open a steak house. But, he is not going to be able to progress in that process because the power base he is counting on is in serious trouble.

    For at least the last 30-40 years, the Republican party has relied on the Right Wing Religious types to be the energy of their party. The party consisted of them and some Rich Guys who used them to do the work in their campaign offices and run their propaganda machines. (There were ordinary people who voted Republican, but they didn’t run the party).

    The Rich Guys accomplished this by telling the religious types that they agreed with them on the issues that mattered to them– birth control, civil rights, abortion, conspicuous exercise of Christian activities ( Christmas displays, public prayer, etc). However, once they got elected, they forgot about those things until the next time they needed the religious types to show up and run the campaign offices, since their actual agenda was to improve conditions for Rich Guys.

    It took a generation, but eventually, the religious right figured out that they were getting shafted on a regular basis and decided to take over the party and run Right Wing Religious types instead of the Rich Guys. The Rich Guys responded by forming superpacs and trying to put enough money into the elections to buy them. Now the Rich Guys have figured out that are either accomplishing nothing with all that money or they are buying the elections for the Religious Right, who now consider the Rich Guys an enemy that they have to use but actually hate. Consequently, the Rich Guys are losing interest in buying the elections at all.

    Problem for both sides is that the Religious Types don’t have enough people to win an election. The Tea Party has a negative rating of around 65%. And, the last election proved that Rich Guys don’t have enough money to buy enough votes to win an election. There is no point in broadcasting an ad 50 times if the majority of voters didn’t believe it the first time they heard it.

    So, much as they might not get along, have entirely different agendas, and a history that both sides try to ignore, they have no chance of surviving at all without each other. Consequently, the Republican party will try to patch up their differences and present a faux united front. They simply have no other choice. And, that party will represent the Rich Guys views, because they have the money and still have a reputation that can at least be salvaged.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      What really sad about this is that these supposed ‘religious types’ are nothing but bogus Christians with some agendas. They fail to see that the GOP has become the most anti-Christian organization in America. And aside from Evangelicals who seem to be totally clueless, a lot of other ‘religious types’ are starting to see that totally focusing on MONEY is not what true Christians do; true Christians put helping others above MONEY.

  • jarheadgene

    In the words of their own hero, Trump, [Your FIRED!] John Bohener, Cantor, Ryan…Fire
    em all.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      Boy! Wouldn’t that be a great day!! Get rid of the evil triumvirate!! Then all we’d need to work on is the fourth evil henchman: McConnell.

  • Ayaya Worenwu

    Forget about Ryan. Ryan is deputy Norquist. Ryan is not popular now in his homestate of Wisconsin because the guy says what is not true.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      I hope you’re right. I think one of my biggest disappointments from the election is that the people of Wisconsin are too clueless to see through this lying snakeoil salesman who really doesn’t have a clue about anything he said during the campaign: it was nothing but lies, distortions and fairytale promises that he knew full well, that he and Romney would never follow through on. The two of them only wanted to get elected because they thought they could get legislation passed that would let them channel more money into the pockets of their big money donors which would end up feeding millions to them too.

      • CPANewYork

        As the vice president said in his debate with Ryan: “malarkey.”

  • ObozoMustGo

    Who cares what the feckless Republicans are doing. This is just another distraction away from the awful truth that the American electorate is becoming more stupid by the year, and they are tricked into believing they can vote themselves “stuff” from the government. And the DemonRATS are the party of free stuff.

    Of all places, here is an article written in Pravda, the former Soviet controlled media that is now free and has the remembrences of communism fresh in their memories. Hat tip Pravda and Xavier Lerma:

    ————————————————————-
    Obama’s Soviet Mistake
    19.11.2012 15:23

    By Xavier Lerma

    Putin in 2009 outlined his strategy for economic success. Alas, poor Obama did the opposite but nevertheless was re-elected. Bye, bye Miss American Pie. The Communists have won in America with Obama but failed miserably in Russia with Zyuganov who only received 17% of the vote. Vladimir Putin was re-elected as President keeping the NWO order out of Russia while America continues to repeat the Soviet mistake.

    After Obama was elected in his first term as president the then Prime Minister of Russia, Vladimir Putin gave a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland in January of 2009. Ignored by the West as usual, Putin gave insightful and helpful advice to help the world economy and saying the world should avoid the Soviet mistake.

    Recently, Obama has been re-elected for a 2nd term by an illiterate society and he is ready to continue his lies of less taxes while he raises them. He gives speeches of peace and love in the world while he promotes wars as he did in Egypt, Libya and Syria. He plans his next war is with Iran as he fires or demotes his generals who get in the way.

    Putin said regarding the military,

    “…instead of solving the problem, militarization pushes it to a deeper level. It draws away from the economy immense financial and material resources, which could have been used much more efficiently elsewhere.”

    Well, any normal individual understands that as true but liberalism is a psychosis . O’bomber even keeps the war going along the Mexican border with projects like “fast and furious” and there is still no sign of ending it. He is a Communist without question promoting the Communist Manifesto without calling it so. How shrewd he is in America. His cult of personality mesmerizes those who cannot go beyond their ignorance. They will continue to follow him like those fools who still praise Lenin and Stalin in Russia. Obama’s fools and Stalin’s fools share the same drink of illusion.

    Reading Putin’s speech without knowing the author, one would think it was written by Reagan or another conservative in America. The speech promotes smaller government and less taxes. It comes as no surprise to those who know Putin as a conservative. Vladimir Putin went on to say:

    “…we are reducing taxes on production, investing money in the economy. We are optimizing state expenses.

    The second possible mistake would be excessive interference into the economic life of the country and the absolute faith into the all-mightiness of the state.

    There are no grounds to suggest that by putting the responsibility over to the state, one can achieve better results.

    Unreasonable expansion of the budget deficit, accumulation of the national debt – are as destructive as an adventurous stock market game.

    During the time of the Soviet Union the role of the state in economy was made absolute, which eventually lead to the total non-competitiveness of the economy. That lesson cost us very dearly. I am sure no one would want history to repeat itself.”

    President Vladimir Putin could never have imagined anyone so ignorant or so willing to destroy their people like Obama much less seeing millions vote for someone like Obama. They read history in America don’t they? Alas, the schools in the U.S. were conquered by the Communists long ago and history was revised thus paving the way for their Communist presidents. Obama has bailed out those businesses that voted for him and increased the debt to over 16 trillion with an ever increasing unemployment rate especially among blacks and other minorities. All the while promoting his agenda.

    “We must seek support in the moral values that have ensured the progress of our civilization. Honesty and hard work, responsibility and faith in our strength are bound to bring us success.”- Vladimir Putin

    The red, white and blue still flies happily but only in Russia. Russia still has St George defeating the Dragon with the symbol of the cross on its’ flag. The ACLU and other atheist groups in America would never allow the US flag with such religious symbols. Lawsuits a plenty against religious freedom and expression in the land of the free. Christianity in the U.S. is under attack as it was during the early period of the Soviet Union when religious symbols were against the law.

    Let’s give American voters the benefit of the doubt and say it was all voter fraud and not ignorance or stupidity in electing a man who does not even know what to do and refuses help from Russia when there was an oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico. Instead we’ll say it’s true that the Communists usage of electronic voting was just a plan to manipulate the vote. Soros and his ownership of the company that counts the US votes in Spain helped put their puppet in power in the White House. According to the Huffington Post, residents in all 50 states have filed petitions to secede from the Unites States. We’ll say that these Americans are hostages to the Communists in power. How long will their government reign tyranny upon them?

    Russia lost its’ civil war with the Reds and millions suffered torture and death for almost 75 years under the tyranny of the United Soviet Socialist Republic. Russians survived with a new and stronger faith in God and ever growing Christian Church. The question is how long will the once “Land of the Free” remain the United Socialist States of America? Their suffering has only begun. Bye bye Miss American Pie! You know the song you hippies. Sing it! Don’t you remember? The 1971 hit song by American song writer Don McLean:

    “And, as I watched him on the stage my hands were clenched in fists of rage.

    No angel born in Hell could break that Satan’s spell

    And, as the flames climbed high into the night to light the sacrificial rite, I saw…
    Satan laughing with delight the day the music died

    He was singing, bye bye Miss American Pie

    Drove my Chevy to the levee, but the levee was dry

    Them good ol’ boys were drinking whiskey and rye, singing…

    This’ll be the day that I die

    This’ll be the day that I die

    So, the question remains:

    How long will America suffer and to what depths?

    Xavier Lerma
    ——————————————————————–

    Have a nice day!

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency…Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.” – Czech Republic newspaper Prager Zeitung

    • tobyspeeks

      Nice copy and paste job. Nice screen name. Nice play on words when mentioning Democrats. You are not only the most ignorant person I’ve had the misfortune of reading a comment from today, you are also the most filled with anger and completely in denial. Why you no cry about the electoral college until you lose an election? Because you heard them cry about it on Fox News? Because you read about it in some third world ex communist news paper? I hope all the hate you hold inside eats up your innards.

    • RUKIDENME

      Blah, Blah, Blah…. Take your ball and go home.

    • Justin Napolitano

      Bozo, isn’t your wrist sore from all that copying and pasting, no? maybe it is from using your hand to continue the Republican mission of wasting time while feeling good. Or something like that. Either way you are wasting your time and I doubt you feel very good about it.

    • CPANewYork

      Hey, ObozoMustGo: Welcome back. Finally removed your tail from between your legs did you?

      Now you claim that the American population is stupid. Why, just because it saw through the Republican bastards and their rich buddies and voted against Mittens? Is that what’s bothering you bunky?

      Well gird your loins, bunky, because I believe that the next election is going to deal another blow to the Republican Party. The assholes haven’t learned their lesson, so they must be given another whipping.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1118543425 Robin O’Brien

    For the past six months we’ve been hearing how the Republican ticket would be able to pull us magically out of our financial mess because they are business-men not politicians. Go nuts Ryan!…and maybe you can consult with your buddy Romney?!!! I’m sure you had tons of ideas tucked away in your gym locker?!!!

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_W6BRPF4NL25AB6KRDUCS3HACHI Joseph

    Message to the REPTARDS!!!! President Obama has a clear MANDATE FROM THE DECENT PATRIOTIC WORKING MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS. This was in spite of the numerous schemes to steal our country away from the citizens with various types of voter fraud, gerrymandering, false messages giving the wrong dates for the elections, etc. You ignore that mandate at your peril of a death of all of your political power!!!! Remember, we DECENT PATRIOTIC WORKING CLASS AMERICANS now have the power to throw you out state by state in spite of the Gerrymandering that allowed you to almost treasonously steal the power FROM THE DECENT PATRIOTIC WORKING MIDDLE CLASS AMERICANS, if necessary.

  • tobyspeeks

    Nice.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dianrib Diane Ribbentrop

    Rove Ryan Mitts McConnell Boehner’s far right anti women -anti middle class policies- ideas- were soundly DEFEATED
    Mass Sen Brown Joe Walsh Akins Mourdoch aka women haters.. ALL LOST
    Heed the message GOP Baggers .. or pay the price

  • http://twitter.com/PearlGeorgen Pearl Georgen

    Ben,

    I liked and agreed with the article. Except, I will say, I have faith we will avert the Fiscal Cliff and we can all breathe a little easier for a little while. Thanks for your thoughts.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/ES2UMKTR4CDLPP22JNGQN3Z7SE Jackmack

    now let’s see what Congress does this time around and I wonder if they will back to their old ways or work with President Obama WE ARE WATCHING YOU

  • howa4x

    There is no physical cliff just a slope that everyone will slide slowly down with room to stop themselves. It would be in the democrats intrest to let it happen since the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy would just expire and they would go back to the old rate of 39%. Once that happens the republicans would have to go out and explain to the American people why the richest Americans need a break. Of course all the other breaks to the middleclass and small business will expire but then the republicans would be in a box. Obama will say he and the democrats are ready to sign a tax break for those 2 groups right now with out tying them to the wealthy as the republicans were successful in doing by holding the middle class hostage for the rich. So if they the republicans try this again it will be transparent for everyone to see. The middleclass also won’t stand by and watch entitlements get cut without the wealthy’s taxes going up, and the republicans or at least the smart ones know this. That’s why you see some republican senators saying they are not opposed to that now. Soon the polls will be out again this time showing more americans will want the wealthy to pay their fair share and the loss of Romney proved that to be the case since Obama ran on tax fairness. So now to all you democrats, stand firm, and don’t hurt your stakeholders just to let the republicans out of the box. Ryan will not be a big player in this drama. He knows that Obama and a democratic senator won in his state so the writing for his extreme policies is on the wall.
    He will not go out there with a copy of Ayn Rand this time. He already knows what the reaction will be.

  • http://alogon.myopenid.com/ Alogon

    ??? Temporary tax rate increases on the rich ??? I thought it was the soon-to-expire tax cuts that were temporary.

    Or does the article refer to a hope of the 1% (and their 39% wannabes/sympathizers) that, if the expiration comes to pass, the increased rates will prove to be temporary even if their is no current provision to that effect?

    I’d be grateful if someone could unconfuse me here.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/JMT6C3LHLJDD4RX4NB4KY5ICAE gargray

    Let the fox guard the chicken house, not to smart.

  • Fubom

    I am sick and tired of the “conservatives” using the word entitlement when discussing Social Security and Medicare. When you pay for auto insurance year after year, is collecting on a claim due to an accident an entitlement? No, it is a payment on an insurance policy under the conditions set forth in that policy. When you purchase life insurance and a payout is made, to your beneficiaries, on that insurance policy, is that an entitlement? No it is the completion of a contract. When you have health insurance, that you have been paying for for years, and you face a serious medical problem that the insurance company covers, is that an entitlement? No, it is you receiving a benefit that you have paid for. While in each case you are “entitled” to reimbursement, none is ever called an entitlement program. It is insurance, plain and simple, as are Social Security and Medicare. The people who have worked, and paid into these programs, their entire working lives expect reimbursement for the “premiums” paid over those years. They are not hand outs or freebies. They are earned and paid for by the people of this country. If you want to talk about entitlement, let’s talk about elected officials who believe they are entitled to generous pay, benefits and retirement packages simply because they have an honorary title associated with their names. When you want to talk about entitlement, maybe we should start there.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_2YAYHPL4WJCO4FGRTUY56DUSNU maria

    That’s the end for Paul Ryan! He’ll go the way of Sarah Palin.

    The Republicans will allow him to still make bold statements but no one would listen to him anymore. He fought a lost cause. The Republicans are accepting the fact that they have to reinvent themselves less their potency deteriorates much faster.

  • http://profile.yahoo.com/S4H2IXYBMUONVRUY7JTJDPIYJE jbing

    John Bonehead Bohner is one big jealous jerk. But Paul ” Pit Bull ” Ryan better face the reality that the Bonehead has a pair of ace and the Pitbull just a a pair of deuce when repositioning themselves for the 2016 mud slinging contest. Again.

  • http://www.facebook.com/renee.brookstatum Renee Brooks Tatum

    He did not pass close scrutiny by the populace and he did not win the election. Lets not continually beat a guy who has fallen down. He may not appreciate my sympathy because I did not vote for him but leave Paul and his beautiful blue eyes alone.

    • CPANewYork

      It’s evident that you don’t vote with your brain.

  • SueTX

    Agreed. We pay the $99 premium, and $174 for a supplemental from Marquette. If you don’t mind being limited to a certain territory, a lot of the Advantage plans are a LOT cheaper.

  • CPANewYork

    Don’t throw Ryan into the fire. Throw him under the bus.

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