By Richard Kirsch

Paul Ryan’s Budget Would Kill Health Insurance Programs — And Thousands Of Americans

March 14, 2013 12:42 pm Category: Memo Pad, Politics 68 Comments A+ / A-
Paul Ryan’s Budget Would Kill Health Insurance Programs — And Thousands Of Americans

Ryan’s budget priorities expose a disregard for the fundamental right to a healthy life.

I know you are not supposed to write in hyperbole, but sometimes the truth needs to be told. Paul Ryan’s budget, which kills Obamacare and cripples Medicare and Medicaid, would kill tens of thousands of people. Every year.

I have trouble with putting policy glosses on proposals that would deny health care coverage to millions of people and make care much more expensive to millions more. Because when more people lack health coverage, more people die. And when health costs prevent people from getting the care they need, they get more seriously ill.

How many people are we talking about? Estimates of the number of people who will die because they are uninsured vary, from about 500 to 1,000 for every one million who lack coverage. Repealing Obamacare would block promised coverage for 32 million people, so that would mean somewhere between 16,000 and 32,000 each year who will die prematurely. Of course, since some Republican governors and legislatures are not implementing the expansion of Medicaid coverage in their states, some of those deaths are already on their hands.

Which leads us to the Ryan plan for slashing Medicaid. He replaces a program that now entitles low-income people to health coverage with a block grant to states to spend however they want on health care for the poor. The federal government would save money by decreasing what it pays to state governments and states would get to do the dirty work of cutting people’s health care. That will mean fewer people on the program, higher out-of-pocket costs, or a reduction in coverage of medically necessary care. And more people dying who would have lived if they had kept their previous health coverage.

In cutting Medicaid, Ryan is fulfilling the biggest concern that Republican governors say they have when they consider expanding Medicaid under Obamacare. A typical remark came from Arizona Governor Jan Brewer: “As I weighed this decision, I was troubled by the possibility that a future President and Congress may take steps to reduce federal matching rates, leaving states with a greater and greater share of health costs over time.”

Everyone is familiar by now with Ryan’s proposal to replace Medicare with vouchers to buy private insurance. The Ryan voucher plan is not about controlling health care costs; instead, it is intended to shift costs from the federal government to the seniors and the disabled who are covered by Medicare. When people can’t afford the care they need – and the CBO reported that the first Ryan voucher plan would have doubled the already high cost of health care to seniors – they will get sicker.

The parts of Obamacare that Ryan doesn’t repeal underscore his cynicism. Ryan would keep the $716 billion in Medicare spending reductions over a decade, which he railed against when he was running for vice president. In his debate with Joe Biden, Ryan called the Medicare changes a “piggybank” for Obamacare, which would cause hospitals and nursing homes to close and lead to seniors losing benefits. None of this is true, as Biden pointed out. So now Ryan is using that $716 billion in savings to help him reach his goal of balancing the federal budget instead of what those savings were intended for: increasing Medicare benefits under Obamacare and expanding coverage to millions of Americans.

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  • nobsartist

    This failed health care system that was created by republiCONs and supported by Obama already kills thousands yearly so whats the difference?

    • Adam Wu

      A mouse and an elephant are both mammals, so what’s the difference?

    • Eleanore Whitaker

      As I recall, in order to get ANY healthcare reform bill passed the GOP held the president hostage by refusing to extend the unemployment benefits to the 8 million who were out of work for 8 Bush years. Which was better? Pass some healthcare reform or allow 8 million Americans to end up in the streets? This wasn’t the first time the GOP used taxpayers as hostages to grant a tax cut. That’s all the GOP knows…balance the budget and then use the surplus to grant more tax cuts for the 1%. Remember in 2005 when the GAO report showed clearly that the 2 Bush tax cuts in 2004 increased the wealth of the 1% by 11%? How much wealthier are they now that they’ve since received a tax cut in 2008 and 2009? And if the GOP gets their way, this sequester will increase their wealth even more. Stalling is always a mechanism for additional profits. Several reports have already showed that the Koch billionaires are increasing their wealth because of the sequester. Tell me again how the GOP didn’t know that would happen.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1362702462 Madelaine Ayers Henne

      Prove it!

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/HGC4BGWVYXV76PHZBPSPOOU5GA Independent1

      More total nonsense out of nobsartist. Guess the marijuana high hasn’t worn off yet!

      • nobsartist

        And it is evident that your head is still up your ass.

        • disqus_CmPS82g3vc

          Apparently, your “artistry” is limited to vulgarities. Shame on you.

  • ORAXX

    None of these deaths mean anything if we can manage to conform to Ayn Rand’s
    abstract ideal of what the world should be. (Sarcasm) Ryan’s two-bit religiosity
    combined with Ayn Rand’s, utter lack of humanity makes for a nauseating
    combination.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Daniel-Jones/827014412 Daniel Jones

    “However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results.” – Winston Churchill

  • http://www.facebook.com/dominick.vila.1 Dominick Vila

    One of the GOP’s top priorities during the past several decades is to privatize or dismantle every single social program, from Social Security to MEDICARE, MEDICAID, and public education. Since the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare) became law, their goal was expanded to eliminate it. When the Supreme Court declared it constitutional, and most states embraced it, the only recourse left for the GOP to achieve their goal is to “starve the beast”. That is exactly what Rep. Ryan’s proposed budget is intended to do, not because our social programs are unfair or unpopular, but because they are ideologically abhorrent to them. Their goal is to help their donors accumulate more wealth than they already have, and deprived the evil middle class and the poor or the crumbs they need to subsist.

    • idamag

      Dominick, thier attempt to dismantle social programs started in 1935 when Preston Bush led the fight to outlaw Social Security. His grandson became president and hopped right on it.

    • AdamMos

      What is scary is theat Romney/Ryan got millions votes in the last election. To think these killers got that close to the Whitehouse makes me shudder. These are nothing more than domestic terrorists. Thank God for Scott Proutty.

    • 1bythebrooks2

      I’m thinking that Ryan has never seen “A Christmas Carol”. And if he has, his response to it must have been “Bah, Humbug”. “Are there no poor houses, no prisons for these people?”

  • old_blu

    I want to know why anyone thinks Lyin Ryan is qualified to do a budget, I don’t think he’s done anything but sponge off his parents and now off of Americans.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000145226947 Tessa Strickland Morgan

      Didn’t he also sponge off of Social Security Survivor Benefits?

      • old_blu

        Why yes he did, I know he has never had to worry about any kind of financing, so I wonder why any one would let him worry about the great USA’s financing.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Fact: Every pay period, deductions are removed from your paychecks for SS, Medicare and Medicaid. Fact: The Republicans want that money you worked hard for. What if they were allowed to take these deductions and give zero back? Would that be okay with American workers? How about this one…What if the GOP could take those payroll deductions every pay period and spend it on privatized Wall Street accounts and then collect the ROI for themselves, the Corporate Socialists and their 1%? That be okay too?

    The GOP slime balls want Americans workers to hand over our incomes and then let THEM decide how it will be spent. All you hear out of the mouths of the GOP is the same despicable parroting…Balance the Budget, Balance the Budget, Balance the Budget…yadda yadda yadda….ching ching…and the when that budget is balanced and the Middle Class no longer exists will that shut these little creeps up?

    The minute the beady-eyed GOP sees your payroll deductions massing in trillions as with SS, Medicare and Medicaid, it’s hog swilling time in the GOP. Think those 401Ks in the trillions are safe? Think again. Not if the GOP gets its way. What would make anyone think that if they can end SS, Medicare and Medicaid because of the trillions in those accounts, they won’t see that pile of trillions in 401Ks as fair game? These are the GOP hunters we are talking about, isn’t it?

    • idamag

      And the GOP efforts to privatize everything for their salivating corporate buddies,

      • BDC_57

        GOP have to lie and cheat to get what they want. .

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    Ryan is typical of the Daycare Generation Brats. They aged out of the McMansions at age 35 and reality hit them upside their dumb little heads the minute they realized what it means to be a responsible adult. Not good enough for these McChimps. What they expected was to work a 10 hour work week, earn six or more figures and then comes age 40…time to retire. And what better way to do that than to hit the seniors, their own parents among them, by taking every dime set aside for their retirement. It’s okay for the McBrats to retire at age 40 …just not their parents. Ryan needs a shoe up his bony little butt to shake up his brain.

  • Eleanore Whitaker

    I’d trust the government more than the Madoffers out there. At least with the government, you can sue. When the Madoffers have billions, they bury you in paperwork when you try to sue when you know they are bilking you.

  • atc333

    Ryan is attempting to implement the Right Wing GOP of ending Medicare. He cannot get that goal though Congress in the traditional manner, by voting to repeal Medicare, but he thinks he has a good chance of simply using the typical GOP tool of “Defunding” it, and starving Medicare to death, simply by turning it into a “Voucher” system, and then gradually reducing the amounts of the vouchers over time, until the program, even though law, is effectively cancelled.

    This is what the GOP has become, a Party in which winning is the final goal, the ends justifies the means, The Constitution is a weapon, and not a shield to protect the masses, Gerrymandering, voter suppression, massive voter registration purges, and defunding of programs are all tools in the Right Wing toolbox to win at any cost.

    It took the Roman Senate, in collusion with the very rich, only 1400 years to bring about the collapse of Rome. The Right Wing of the GOP and their most favored citizens, the top 2% are doing their best to accomplish the same result in less than 250 years though the very same means: the redistribution of all America’s wealth to the top 2%, and the accumulation of all political power by that same group.

    So far, the GOP has managed to redistribute more than 46% of all America’s wealth to that group since 1968, when they only owned 8% through tax cuts for job creators, yet they created less than half as many jobs as the Democrats did in 4 years lees time in power. and at this time, the top 10% of all Americans now own 90% of all the wealth of America.

    Certainly Mr. Ryan, by all means go right ahead and hawk your wares to the Faithful. While they may be all aboard, with a little luck and a lot of hard work the 98% will continue to wake up, and understand the massive consequences of maintaining the GOP in office. It has become a Failed Party with a Failed Economic Agenda, which if implemented, will only continue the economic decline of the Middle and Working Class,

    Lincoln would be proud!

  • heaveho

    The GOP lying scumbags like Paul Ryan are the reason for the deficit because when “W” was in office they voted for his senseless wars. All of which credited the federal budget deficit. That’s what happens when you ring up a GIANT tab with no revenue to pay or offset it. Paul Ryan and the rest of the wealthy fucks that comprise the Tea Party controlled GOP actually want to reduce the U.S. population unless you’re already wealthy that is. And yet so many working class FOX News watching people vote for the very politicians like Paul Ryan who have no problem knee capping the middle class and poor all while the Ryan family’s construction business makes LOADS of cash from U.S. government contracts. SPEAKING TRUTH TO STUPID!

    • idamag

      Not only his wars, but also to remove sources of revenue with tax decreases,

  • m8lsem

    More and more this Rep Ryan makes me think of the Deceiver. Young, handsome, glib, laying claim to being Catholic, and turning his back on everything taught by Christ, instead serving only the interests of the very people Jesus spent his life criticizing. If he had a mustache and goatee, everyone would recognize him as Satan.

    • roguerunners

      Handsome??? I think NOT!

    • Mildred- Helen Rowley

      “…….and turning his back on everything taught by Christ…”
      Especially “Whatsoever you do to the least of my people, that you do unto me.” If Ryan ever gets his way, Jesus will really be hurting.

      • neeceoooo

        I guess the “Christian faith” he believes to be part of his persona, varies depending on the circumstances at the time.

    • idamag

      Handsome – by what criteria. He has a thin pinched face with a large thin nose and he looks like Dracula.

    • plc97477

      Shoot, I thought that was cheney

      • BDC_57

        No he dont look evil like Cheney he just looks stupid.

        • old_blu

          You my friend are funny.

  • http://twitter.com/berriesandblood Shelley

    Drones? Drones you say? Killing Americans on American soil you say? Hmmm, an unlikelyhood indeed…..but, Paul Ryan?…now there’s a sure thing!

  • MOOSE4U2

    Obama care is going to cost billions of dollars every person has to buy this insurance even if they don’t want to or pay a fine that’s unconstitutional therefore they are taking the right of the people to choose a better or cheaper insurance .certain people will not have to pay for their’s ,they will get it for free.I wonder who those people are ? could be illegals & the rest will have to pay for them through higher taxes..When you are forced to do something its called communism .. so much for freedom . what other rights will they take from us???

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1362702462 Madelaine Ayers Henne

      Would you buy car insurance if you weren’t “forced to? Would you obey the speed limits if you weren’t “forced” to? Would you wear seatbelts if you weren’t forced to? Get a grip! All this is done to save your sorry A@@!!!

      • MOOSE4U2

        what ??? if you want the government to force you to do what they want move to china, this is the land of the free!!!!@

        • idamag

          What about my right to not pay your medical costs because you won’t buy insurance?

    • idamag

      Have you studied the Affordable Care Act? I thought we should have a public option. For every 2500 dollars you or your insurance company pays in health care costs, 800 dollars goes to pay for those who don,t or won;t buy health insurance. Without having means to pay for the doctor, they have a hard time finding a doctor who will take them. Their solution is to use the emergency rooms for a doctor. Then they don’t pay their bills and we have to. I don’t see any thing wrong with mandating insurance coverage. If this country continues to make more poor people, then it is in good conscience to help them pay their insurance. Yes, we ;produce poor people. Big business does not want to pay a liveable wage and finds ways not to. They also find ways not to pay benefits. Blaming the victim removes some of our own guilt. That person who cleans the halls in our schools or checks you out at WalMart is providing a valuable service. My trash collector and post man does more for me than speculators. Our system is upside down. Those who provide the most receive the least.

      • BDC_57

        He probly didn’t read it he listen fox fake news to get his information.

    • old_blu

      Moose the surpreme court ruled that it was constitutional, you, Rush, and Fox already tried that one. You should do a little research on your own without their help this time. The American people are paying for the ones that don’t have insurance now, just another way. You do know that even Libya has health care for their citizens? What’s wrong with us? (rebuplicans that’s what)

    • neeceoooo

      Out of the mouths of “Fox” news.

      • BDC_57

        You fake news

    • neeceoooo

      What about my right, as a female, to my own body.

      • BDC_57

        The don’t care about you they only care for ther rich buddies.

        • neeceoooo

          You’re right and how it can line their pocket

      • MOOSE4U2

        what does that have to do with obama care???

        • idamag

          It is too bad I am required to buy automobile insurance. If everyone was responsible I wouldn’t be mandated to do so. If everyone was responsible enough to buy health insurance, we wouldn ‘t need a mandate, would we?

    • disqus_CmPS82g3vc

      Were you fast asleep in every English class, Moose?

      • metrognome3830

        Hey! Moose4U2 is the inventor and main practitioner of “Mooseinformation.” Have a little respect. But just a little.

    • idamag

      Something else, I forgot to tell you about the Affordable Care Act that went into effect immediately: Insurance companies are not required to put 80% of the premiums back into healthcare for their subscribers, instead of in their offshore accounts.

    • metrognome3830

      You love to label the ACA “Obamacare.” I am going to label your ramblings as ” Mooseinformation.”

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1512770768 Caryn Vesperman

        As in MISinformation? Love it!

        • metrognome3830

          Thank you! :-)

  • Mildred- Helen Rowley

    There are just 2 questions I would like to see answered by Ryan and all those like him:
    1. What kind of a country do we want to be? (i.e., a country where we have each others’ backs or one where the poor and sick starve and die in the streets)
    2. What are people supposed to do?
    See the quote by Churchill posted below by Daniel Jones.

    • MOOSE4U2

      if there was no corruption it would be fine but you know that whenever the government does something it costs 4 or 5 times the price.

      • plc97477

        I don’t know where you get your information but it is false.

        • MOOSE4U2

          I guess you don’t remember the 300.00 dollar screw drivers that the government was buying with tax payers money or the $750 toilet seat that you could buy at a hardware for less than $10.00 .

          • plc97477

            Which took place during a republican’t president

          • idamag

            Also during the Bush administration, Blackwater (a Haliburton subsidiary)l was found driving empty trucks 200 mile round trip because they were getting paid by the mile instead of the load. They were found charging servicemen $6.00 for a sixpack of Coca Cola when the Coca Cola company gave the soda to the servicemen free. They also charged the government $100 a load to do their laundry. The ugly beginning of this company was that they were awarded a no-bid contract.

          • idamag

            Moose, that was fraud. It happens in the private sector, too. I do remember – it happened at the Pentagon. This is something I hope they fixed. They used to let the maintenance director do their own purchasing. This resulted in some nice gifts sent to their homes. If they haven’t fixed that problem, then, as taxpayers, we need to scream about it. The other thing we should push for is that any contractor caught overcharging or cheating the government is taken off the government lists. I know you sit around with your buddies and gripe about the “they” known as the government. We are the government. It is the government of the people, by the people, for the people. If we let corruption in we need to take steps to get it out. We need to stay vigilant to see that our government is always “we” and not they or them.

      • AdamMos

        Wrong! It is well known that Medicare costs about 40% less for administration then private health insurance. It is one of the benefits of a single payor system. Medicare also pays a fraction for services to providers in comparison to the private sector. The problem is not watse but more but the demographics of 80 million baby boomers turrnig 65 over the next 20 years. there is some fraud but that is also improving as technology improves.

        • idamag

          Also, without shareholders to pay, administration costs for Medicare are much less than private insurance companies. The last figures, I seen, was: private insurance company administration costs – 82 cents out of ever dollar. Medicare administration costs – 26 cents out of every dollar.

  • Pamby50

    Last night my husband & I were talking about this last night. I finally said, the republicans believe the poor should just die cause they are a drain on their wealth.

  • adriancrutch

    Is it all right if I beat Ryan to death with Ayn Rand’s thigh bone?

    • plc97477

      May I help

  • Budjob

    This goon is extremely dangerous.He must be monitored very closely.In short he is as crazy as a fly in a base drum.I don’t know how his wife goes to bed and fucks him every night.What a piece of garbage!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1512770768 Caryn Vesperman

      I don’t think she does. :-)

  • taz0363@yahooo.com

    The solution is quite simple. Fire him. He is not doing the job he was put in there to do. His performance evaluations suggest that he is no longer a proper fit for the position to which he was ELECTED. WE the people have the power to correct this. Next election…fire him.

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