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Monday, February 27, 2017

This is unlikely to prompt anyone to break out the bubbly in the Oval Office, but last week’s poll numbers are nevertheless good news for President Obama. Since Democrats were thrashed in November’s midterm elections, the president’s approval ratings have been on the upswing.

As he prepares to deliver his sixth State of the Union address on Jan. 20, Obama’s approval has crept up to 47 percent, according to a new survey from Pew Research. That’s up 5 points since December.

Most analysts believe Obama’s recovering fortunes are the result of a much-improved economy — the one gauge that’s reliably important to voters. It’s taken a few years, but average workers are finally beginning to put the Great Recession behind them.

Take note of this now. Keep it in a spare file in your memory bank. Remember that the economy has been advancing for the six years of Obama’s tenure — a frustratingly slow process that is finally bearing fruit. The unemployment rate is now at 5.6 percent, the lowest since 2008. Foreclosures are down to pre-recession levels. The stock market is in historically high territory.

Why do I want you to remember this? In a stunning show of chutzpah, the president’s harshest critics, the hyper-conservatives who’ve done everything they could to wreck his presidency, want to take credit for the recovery they tried to sabotage.

Just take a look at the speech Kentucky Republican Mitch McConnell gave on the day he took the helm of the Senate as the new majority leader.

“After so many years of sluggish growth, we’re finally starting to see some economic data that can provide a glimmer of hope. The uptick appears to coincide with the biggest political change of the Obama administration’s long tenure in Washington: the expectation of a new Republican Congress,” he said.

According to his logic, consumers spent more money and businesses hired more workers starting back in the summer because they expected Republicans to win a majority in Congress. That’s nonsense.

Obama inherited a mess from George W. Bush — a financial crisis brought on by the excesses of Wall Street. President Bush started the bailout, but most of the work was left for the Obama administration. Obama continued the Wall Street bailout, passed a massive stimulus package and rescued the auto industry. Congressional Republicans, meanwhile, fought him every step of the way. That the economy has bounced back anyway is testament to its underlying resiliency.

Perhaps the greatest driver of consumers’ new optimism is the free-fall in gas prices, which haven’t been this low since the Great Recession drove down demand worldwide. Obama didn’t spur the investment in domestic oil drilling, but he has encouraged it, noting that it would help to free us from a dependence on foreign oil.

None of these hard-won gains have come a moment too soon. And, yes, there’s still much work to be done to revive the American middle class. The growing gap between the comfortable and everybody else remains one of the biggest threats to domestic tranquility. Wages are still stagnant.

Obama is well aware of that. In his State of the Union speech, he is expected to announce an ambitious new proposal to provide free access to the nation’s two-year community colleges. It’s an excellent plan.

Education experts say there are about 8 million community college students, and their average annual tuition is around $3,800. To the comfortable classes, that might not seem like much. But it presents a barrier to many working-class students trying to change their circumstances. It’s an investment that the nation can afford to make — and should make.

But like the other proposals the president has made to boost the economy, this one is likely to meet resistance from the Republicans in Congress. They want to take credit when things go well, but they’re only too willing to block a good idea if it comes from Obama.

Cynthia Tucker won the Pulitzer Prize for commentary in 2007. She can be reached at [email protected]

AFP Photo/Saul Loeb

359 Responses to Republicans Now Take Credit For The Recovery They Sabotaged

  1. Hopefully nobody is surprised by what the GOP is doing. With a presidential election less than two years ago, and a large number of Republicans running for re-election in blue and purple states, the last thing the GOP can do is admit what Mitch McConnell said when he boasted that the policies of obstructionism that delayed the economic recovery and caused so much misery and pain to millions of Americans were designed to ensure President Obama was a one-term president. The essence of statements like that may not be easy to grasp by those who form opinions based on what charlatans like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and the rest of that gang say, but they would be political poison if they are repeated at a national level. With that in mind, the only recourse for the party of no is to take credit for what their opponents did, and hope their audience is suffering from an advanced state of Alzheimer.

  2. The Republicans taking credit for the economic recovery is no shock to anyone that’s been listening to them blame the Democrats for the recession the past six years. For the more intellectual, it could be called an inverse universe they’ve created. Where the Right Wing message can travel seamlessly from, “deficits don’t matter,” to the weeks old new Democratic Administration’s out of control spending being the number one underlying cause of the recession. And, the Democrat’s unwillingness to cut millions of unemployment checks in an economy losing 800,000 jobs a month, or the increase number of Americans now needing food assistance, was ample proof Obama was over his head. And worse in their universe, he was suggesting to allow the Bush tax cuts, that had increased the debt nearly a trillion dollars over their 10 year lifespan, to expire for only the top 100th percentile, of the top 1%. A move the GOP described as job killing, insanity! “Raising taxes?” “In the middle of a recession?” They acted as if the very thought of raising taxes on the group that had most profited from the causation, and were least affected by the resultant near economic collapse, left them dumbstruck. “Socialist!” they declared. “He’s wrecking the Country!” They charged. And just where is this supposed birth certificate, they wondered aloud. The stimulus package? They voted, NO in lockstep. Saving General Motors, was described as a giveaway to his Union cronies, and just more Federal Debt foisted on the backs of our children. This President is a menace to freedom! The now red faced, necks bulging, spittle flying, Republicans declared. He must be stopped at all costs! Unless we want to become Greece! This, as our European trading partners struggled between default, and worse, from the Great Recession fires we started. The GOP in mass, refused to lift a finger to in any way to bolster the U.S. economy. Just in case things went terribly wrong around the World. Why make Obama the hero, they traitorously theorized. How would a recovery look to the American People? He’d get the credit of course. And if we need to take a few chances with America’s economy, prolong the suffering. A small price to pay it was decided, if we can get corporate taxes cut in half.
    If you think about it, this flat lined economy can be a real opportunity for us. As long as we can keep it a smoldering mess for the next couple of years.
    As a President can only do so much to affect an economy as large, and diverse as ours. Especially with a hostile opposition on his back every step of the way. In hindsight the best personal decision President Obama made to insure the economic recovery. Was to refuse to ever negotiate with the Tea Party Republicans again, over raising the debt ceiling. As the first one devolved into a horror infused episode of brinkmanship, with the economy
    held hostage to the demands of the most extreme partisan elements riding
    roughshod over a spineless Speaker. A situation, at it’s height that many in our military were beginning to warn was rising to the level as to effecting not only economic security, but National Security, as well. And, the T-Party had several of these manufactured crisis’ planned. Occurring approximately every 3 months. The next, targeted date to begin at Thanksgiving, running through the Christmas Holidays. Coinciding at the end of 2011, with a months long Federal Government shutdown. Where a laundry list of radical demands would be demanded as the price of lifting the siege. So this is what McConnell says businesses, and the American People were waiting for. The reason they now admit, when they can no longer deny, the economy is on the mend. In that down the rat hole, transverse universe. Where once again deficits will not matter at all. and the truth? Even less.

    • I was going to post something…But there is no need…you said it all… Today you can enjoy the name calling and derision from the T Party folks…I will enjoy a day off from their nonsensical tirades … :=)

    • Your post is just so good, charleo1!!!
      For a glimpse into the deceptive, “inverse reality” you so aptly refer to, click on this right wing propaganda manifesto, “The Integration of Theory and Practice,” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Integration_of_Theory_and_Practice It is a veritable instruction manual on how to undermine and smear the opposition through the use of lies. The only requirement that the deceit needs to be successful, according to the essay, is not the truth of an idea, but the commitment of its promoters and the energy, dedication, and relentlessness of their deceptive attacks…. This pretty much sums up Fox News and the sound bites emanating from the right wingnuts for the past 6 years…

      • As you know Mat, I left out a lot for brevity sake. But, of course you may add it to your files. Just send me $500.00 in unmarked bills, in a plain brown paper bag labeled, “there is definitely no cash at all in this bag.” And it’s yours! No, seriously, thank you for that!

    • They speak to constituents who operate on fear and feelings.
      That’s why facts have never been part of their narrative.
      Thank you charleo1.

  3. I for one see the absurdity of McConnell’s lies and I would hope other Americans are intelligent enough to see his smear campaign as just that. The hatred of President Obama for having won not once, but twice is palpable and at every turn the GOP and Tea Party racists will try to debunk our progressive, thoughtful, intellectually minded President. Not only does he outwit them, he pushes forward and remains calm and collected. History will prove his outstanding ability to lead well and to accomplish what others before him could not, did not, and moreover, did not even think to. McConnell is a fossil and a disgrace, as are his jealous compatriots. For the next two years they will hammer President Obama at their own peril come 2016. Stupidity in the GOP and Tea Party is rampant.

  4. I didn’t get past the title of the article, only because it’s a complete contradiction. How is it possible to sabotage something, which means it didn’t happen, then take credit for something that didn’t happen because they sabotaged it. It’s Bush’s fault, remember.

    • They handed Obama the worst economy possible. They did everything they could to prohibit him from fixing it. Now that he fixed anyway they try to take credit for it. That is how, Gary.

      • You are certainly no Einstein, as I didn’t suggest anything other than the title of the article was written by an illiterate. But since you mentioned it, the recovery would have taken place years sooner if not for Obama. Obama is a National Embarrassment and the worst President in the history of this great nation.

        • It may have taken as long as the last Great Recession, which began under Ford (after he took over from Nixon), lasted through Carter (even with austerity), and through most of Reagan. Only by adding $4T to the national debt by off-books military spending did Reagan finally get the economy back ticking.
          The Reagan legacy: he removed military expenditures from his budgets so his deficits looked small. That carried on all the way through GWB, whose last budget was $1.4T in deficit when actual spending is included in his fairy-tale numbers. Obama finally stopped the process, which is the only reason the GOP has the talking point about “tripled the deficit”. Yes, he did. By detailing spending that Congress did anyway.

        • Yada, yada, yada. If you can’t win with facts (what a concept,huh?) then belittle your opponent with insults and more BS. It all the GOP has.

        • Sabotage

          1.
          deliberately destroy, damage, or obstruct (something), especially for political or military advantage.

          It seems to me that you shouldn’t be calling other folks illiterate, young fella. Sabotage doesn’t have to be completely successful at it’s goal in order to be sabotage.

          In previous posts you’ve tried to claim that you dislike all politicians and you are apolitical. In some posts you claim that you just dislike Obama’s policies and you have no contempt or hate for the man himself.

          But the truth will out, over time. You clearly hate Obama for something other than his policies, because your personal hate for Obama drives your opinions on his policies — not the other way around. When you find yourself making obviously incorrect statements about the President’s policy you need to look inside to determine why you are doing it, and face the facts about what you find.

          “The recovery would have taken place years sooner if not for Obama”? That’s really incredibly weak, and shows that you are desperately searching for something to use to belittle Obama without much luck. A recovering economy and employed Americans really bothers you, doesn’t it? Becoming the top energy producer in the entire world makes you terribly unhappy. Why is that? Why are you so unhappy about things that are good for Americans?

          • Seriously, you can really stick the racist bullshit where the sun don’t shine. That’s nothing but lame left wing drivel. I cannot take you seriously when you play the idiotic race card. F-ing lame.

            For your information, I dislike his socialist thieving politics. He could be you, makes no matter. I believe in freedom, not government theft, which is what your clan constantly demands of the thieves you elect. Most of your clan are cowards. Most of your clan are economic illiterates. Most of your clan are brainwashed low information people who vote for their own slavery. I’m not fond of the GOPers either, basically the same thing with a different book of bullshit. Bot are nothing more than criminal cartels that screw the people. Shame on you for supporting theft, via redistribution. I can go on about how evil all governments are, but your a smart young lad, see if can figure out the #1 cause of human death in the last 115 years,

          • You know, it’s pretty funny when you come out here calling other people ‘illiterate’ or ‘economic illiterates’, yet you have to backpedal when they point out that you are the illiterate one.

            Sabotage does not have to be successful to be sabotage. Sabotaging something does not require that the target of the sabotage ‘didn’t happen’. Learn the meaning of the word before calling other people illiterate for using it correctly.

            Somebody who comes out here and posts that the labor participation rate ‘dropped’ under the Carter Administration and that the rate is a low as it’s ever been (claiming that 1978 was the historic low) isn’t really in a position to label other people ‘economic illiterates’.

            People know when they are being ‘enslaved’, and they usually don’t care for that type of thing. That’s just another one of those talking points that are used by right-wing hacks. You claim to dislike both major parties and that you are apolitical, but the more you post the more you sound like one of those blooming idiots from WND and other rabid right-wing sites who constantly bend over for the Koch Brothers and are happy to do it.

          • Money. The whole reason for the mandate in the ACA is to get the young and healthy to pay for insurance they won’t likely use. It’s been admitted. That’s redistribution and even Obama has stated that’s what he desired. Government, by virtue of it’s nature are thieves. Thanks to Obama, his supporters who are highly invested in the insurance companies are much more wealthy today. Obama is no different than Bush. I don’t like none of them. How many in your clan complain about tax dollars going to rich people? You blame the GOP for “redistribution” in this manner than accept it when your clan does it.

          • Isn’t the “mandate” you refer to the basis for Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, and our public schools that have educated generations of youth, to name a few? (Our insurance industries do this to cover those who come upon an unforeseen liability, the “thieves!”) All under attack (except insurance; they’re already privately held entities) in an attempt to privatize and lay claim to the money! Imagine the fortunes to be made!!!!

            Here are some interesting statistics I came upon:

            Spending for corporate welfare programs outweighs
            spending for low-income programs by more than three to one: $167 billion to $51.7 billion.

            Total federal spending on a safety net for the
            poor costs the average taxpayer about $400 a year, while spending on corporate welfare programs costs the same taxpayer about $1400
            a year. (source: CBO figures)

          • Cool stuff. Be it that all politicians have been allowing corporate welfare (which I’m in agreement with you on the issue) for quite a long time, how do you figure on fixing this issue? The R clan isn’t going to fix it and the D clan isn’t going to fix it. They all talk a lot, but don’t do anything but continue to feed those that fund their campaigns for reelection. The D clan had total control for two years and nothing changed. The R clan now has the power, but not enough to change it because Obama will veto anything they pass that he don’t support. HE is just as much of the problem as anyone else in DC. So here’s the question, what do you propose we should do to fix this problem?

          • For starters:
            1. Repeal Citizens United to get BIG $$$ out of the business of buying our elections. Impose a small fraction of a percent tax on wages, be it capital gains, Wall Street stock transactions, and purchases, etc., placed in a blind trust to fund elections after the primaries when candidate emerge from each party. May the best plan/message for the USA win.

            2. Limit the influence of the legions of lobbyists that flood Congress every day to influence national policy.

            3. End Free Trade Agreement in favor of Fair Trade Agreements. Free Trade with nations that uphold standard human rights, wages, worker’s rights, etc., but for nations that exploit their populous to be used as animals by corporatists who offshore jobs to capitalize on these human resources and in many cases, these Governments subsidize their exports (like China does), and manipulate their currency to under-cut any and all competition, I would establish an international tariff in relation to the degree of the abuses. (How to police that can of worms…?)

          • I like the idea of getting big money out of elections. Simply limit each campaign to X amount of money. Where you run into a problem is when you say “X” company or PAC can’t make a commercial endorsing a candidate, you imposing of free speech. I would propose term limits and remove all the perks after they leave office. No lifetime pensions and healthcare. No special perks at all. They work part time as needed. We don’t need a million regulations and laws to run a country. Take a large majority of the Alphabet agencies and shut them down, give that duty back to the States. When you take the Benefits away from the job, the big money will go away. Get the representatives to represent the people, not big business by taking the power to get rich and powerful away.
            Make laws passed by Congress, subject to Gubernatorial vote where 3/4 of the Governors must agree. This makes lobbying almost impossible to fund and gives a greater voice to the people. But I agree in principal.
            Kill NAFTA and suspend all other trade agreement until a Gubernatorial review and vote. All laws and trade agreements will be made available to the public for 10 days to allow for public opinion. States can set up a website for input from the people. If at some point the people are divided, put it up for a vote on election day. No law or trade agreement needs to be rushed through like has been the case far too many times. I would demand any representative that voted on a law or agreement without full knowledge of said be recalled and fired.
            More power and input from the people should be a priority in any country. We have no voice anymore and we need look no further that the bailout that 90% of the people were against, yet it passed anyway.
            Good thoughts on your part!

          • We agree on much. Hadn’t given much thought to an increased role of Governors, though; probably because even Governors are responsive to the national party line. Grover Norquist pledge constraints come to mind…
            But seriously, Gary, have you ever watched an extensive session on say, C-SPAN, where our Congressional Representatives gather distinguished experts from the business or financial sector to panel a policy discussion? It doesn’t take an ounce of intuitive clairvoyance to discern which side of the isle represents favor for moneyed interest, and would offer up our middle class commoner as well as the best interest of the USA as a whole…

          • probably because even Governors are responsive to the national party line.

            One BIG problem identified.

            have you ever watched an extensive session on say, C-SPAN, where our Congressional Representatives gather distinguished experts from the business or financial sector to panel a policy discussion?

            YES, mostly in the winter months, but quite extensively. I began watch in the mid 2000’s when my curiosity in politics began to grow. I didn’t see a noticeable difference in “experts” used by either clan.

            The old “the R clan is for the rich” I think is more hyperbole than fact. This to me is the “tell a lie enough and people will believe it as fact” garbage that both clans use. I laugh when I hear all this Koch Bros insanity, yet no one says anything about Soros or Murdock or Bloomberg. The Koch’s were #59 on the political donation chart, with the top 20 riddled with labor unions supporting the D clan. Just more hyperbole. I stopped falling for it long ago. Neither side is for “group A” and not for “group B” . It’s more like their for “group them” and Not for “group A, B, C, D etc”.

            I also follow what laws are being passed. Going back to Christmas Eve, 2010, Congress passed the Food Safety and Modernization Act of 2010. It was passed with support of both parties equally. The law itself, statistically, wasn’t needed for the purposes stated. It hasn’t been used, to my knowledge, but believe it will at some point. What it allows the Feds to do is both unconstitutional and unethical. I suggest you go look at it. Like I said, it was passed when nobody was paying attention and had no fanfare.

            In short, I’m not for either clan, both are equally corrupt and are equally guilty of helping the rich.

          • Republicans Now Take Credit For The Recovery They Sabotaged

            The word sabotaged, in the past tense means that it occurred. I do understand the English language. Maybe you should learn a little more about our language 🙂

          • Yes, the past tense means that the sabotage occurred, but it doesn’t necessarily mean that it was successful or even partially successful. And it doesn’t mean that it prevented or destroyed the target of the sabotage, which in this case was an economic recovery.

            The definition I copied was right out of a dictionary. You should visit the dictionary more often, because the truth is that your English isn’t a good as you seem to believe it is.

            Aside from your prowess (or lack thereof) using the English language, the point made by the author of the article was not only simple but common knowledge. Everyone knows that the Republicans set out to sabotage the Obama Presidency. Mitch McConnell (among others) came right out and said so. Attempting to deny what everyone already knows simply makes you look foolish, and even worse it makes people think that you are perfectly willing to make false claims in public — something I’ve heard you bitterly accuse President Obama of doing on several occasions.

          • I would say the president who lied us into two wars, okayed torture, dipped into Social Security, tried to privatize Social Security and was convicted of war crimes in two foreign countries would have to be the worst president. Of course, with some people, criminal behavior is acceptable.

      • With all due respect…why did Obama and the Democrats lose more seats in Congress than any other sitting Pres?

        If he is so great why have the voters turned on him, whether for him or against him!
        to wit:
        Obama vs. Carter as Worst President
        Most Liberals along with many Conservatives were likely surprised by reputable opinion survey rankings where Barack Obama beat out Jimmy Carter as the worst president since World War II. Of the 12 presidencies since 1945, one-third of the respondents ranked Obama’s in last place, while 28 percent picked his predecessor. Even Richard Nixon who resigned under the cloud of Watergate scandal did better than both of them with 13 percent of those polled rating him lowest.

        best wishes, Joe T

    • Congrats Gary…you earned a PhD in your astute analogy thinking process…called grey matter, aka brain……..the liberals can’t and don’t think logically and correcting, pursuant to the events and ill statements of this current administration and it’s Chief Liberal, Racist and all around deleterious guy for the USA.
      best regards, Joe T….thanks

        • With all due respect…..liberalism is untenable.

          By Al from Chicago on August 1, 2009

          Format: Perfect Paperback Verified Purchase

          I’m a 35 year old “recovering” Liberal. In the past 4 years or so I discovered what conservatism actually was through stumbling upon authors such as Sowell and Hayek. It turns out that I have been a conservative my entire life, I just didn’t know it, because I didn’t know what conservatism actually was, and I didn’t recognize the folly of the Progressive ideology that was forced upon me from an early age.

          I agree with other reviewers that this book is dry and can be a stuggle to get through. The first 300 pages painstakingly build the foundation for the last few chapters. Basically the author reasons that Liberals, especially the hard Left, are projecting their childhood trauma upon the world of politics. The modern Liberal agenda is not compatible with liberty. Overall he makes a good case.

          I would not say that this is required reading or a book that would change the mind of a Liberal. I would say, however, that it is a worthwhile, interesting read and would make a good addition to any conservative collection.

          • “I’m a 35 year old “recovering” Liberal.”

            Head injury?

            “I didn’t recognize the folly of the Progressive ideology that was forced upon me from an early age.”

            Ah, that explains it all.

          • What you seem to unable to grasp is the fact that America was founded by liberals and has always had a relatively liberal form of government.

            A book written by an author who ‘reasons’ that half of the population would ‘project their child hood traumas’ upon the world and call this political analysis is obviously not worth the retail price even if the retail price is zero. Only a person who takes such a book seriously and perhaps even posts their approval in an online forum could be considered more clueless and less credible the the author themselves.

            Your problem is easily corrected: You need to start reading real books and not laughable rags authored by political hacks.

        • By Joel Tang Junior on October 1, 2007

          Format: Perfect Paperback

          For years I have tried to discuss rationally with liberals/socialists. The only result I could get was to doubt my arguments, no matter how solid they were, because reason didn’t seem powerful enough to move them. I could see that the liberal agenda was economically unsound and even against the basic facts of human nature. Just when I was giving up any possibility of ever understanding the liberal mind and its irrational assaults on reason and human nature, I came across Dr. Rossiter’s book.

          For the first time I could confirm a long held impression that liberals have some problem in their way of thinking. The Liberal Mind convincingly states that what appears to be just normal people worried about real social and political problems is in fact a neurosis which manifests itself in trying to manipulate those who just want to live their lives autonomously and cooperatively by attacking their freedom. Dr. Rossiter gives a complete description of signs, symptoms and causes of this neurosis. And a didactical one, for he emphasizes and repeats key concepts all through the book, so that when introducing new concepts the fundamentals are never out of sight.

          Anyone who still understands man as an autonomous and cooperative being must read this book. The Liberal Mind is a wonderful guide through the sophisms the liberal neurosis creates in the mind of those affected by it, even if the liberal agenda has already dominated the mentality of almost a whole country.

        • Let the liberals keep thinking their delusional thoughts, it only hastens the demise of the liberal agenda and brings more of their base – the ones who are finally seeing the truth behind their rhetoric to the ranks of Conservatives voters. People are waking up to the fact that liberal “solutions” do more harm than good to our nation, our people and our economy so their solutions are based on lies, fabrications and their Gruber mentality that the American electorate is stupid, makes poor choices and only they can lead us to the promised land. A promised land where the US becomes a 3rd rate 3rd world 2 bit country of misery, no hope, no change and divided.

          February 17, 2008, reprint – Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

          As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery

          The Liberal Mind is the first in-depth examination of the major political madness of our time: The radical left’s efforts to regulate the people from cradle to grave. To rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda’s madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by villains. [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

          • That’s a real knee-slapper. The ‘liberal’ country (USA) formed by ‘liberal founders’ (aka the Founding Fathers) has proven how unsuccessful liberalism is by flourishing for over two centuries.

            So lets’ see: What you are saying is that a liberal country founded by liberal people that has flourished for over two centuries is going to hasten the demise of ‘liberalism’ by being liberal. Did I get that right? Perhaps the Confederate States of America had an ideology that was bound to endure and the proof was the fact that they lasted less than 5 years, eh?

            Did you have a favorite brand of paint chips when you were a child?

          • 1) The Founding Fathers were generally religious, gun-toting small government fanatics who were so far to the Right that they’d make Ann Coulter look like Jimmy Carter.

            2) The greatest evil this country has ever committed isn’t slavery; it’s killing more than 50 million innocent children via abortion.

            3) Conservatives are much more compassionate than liberals and all you have to do to prove it is look at all the studies showing that conservatives give more of their money to charity than liberals do.

            4) When the Founding Fathers were actually around, there were official state religions and the Bible was used as a textbook in schools. The so-called “wall of separation between church and state” has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution and everything to do with liberal hostility to Christianity.

            5) The biggest problem with our economy today is Barack Obama. His demonization of successful people, his driving up gas prices, his regulatory overload and threats to increase taxes have terrified businesses into hunkering down, refusing to spend money, and declining to hire new people. Replacing him would do more than any government policy to spur economic growth.

          • Nonsense. The Founding Fathers were liberal, with liberal ideologies. This is especially true given the times that they lived in. Here are a few quotes that prove you don’t know what you are talking about:

            “As mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

            “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children wake up homeless on the continent that their father conquered.” — Thomas Jefferson

            “I hope that we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a
            trial of strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country.” — Thomas Jefferson

            “The power of all corporations ought to be limited, […] the growing wealth acquired by them never fails to be a source of abuses.” — James Madison

            “He who is the author of war, lets loose the whole contagion of hell, and opens a vein that bleeds a nation to death.” — Thomas Paine

            “War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.” — Thomas Jefferson

            “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” — John Adams

            “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” — Thomas Jefferson

            “As to taxes, they are evidently inseparable from government. It is impossible without them to pay the debts of the nation, to protect it from foreign danger, or to secure individuals from lawless violence and rapine. — Alexander Hamilton

          • There was a letter, written to a minister, who wanted the Bible taught in public schools. It was written by Thomas Jefferson and he was thoroughly against it.

          • 1) The Founding Fathers were generally religious, gun-toting small government fanatics who were so far to the Right that they’d make Ann Coulter look like Jimmy Carter.

            2) The greatest evil this country has ever committed isn’t slavery; it’s killing more than 50 million innocent children via abortion.

            3) Conservatives are much more compassionate than liberals and all you have to do to prove it is look at all the studies showing that conservatives give more of their money to charity than liberals do.

            4) When the Founding Fathers were actually around, there were official state religions and the Bible was used as a textbook in schools. The so-called “wall of separation between church and state” has absolutely nothing to do with the Constitution and everything to do with liberal hostility to Christianity.

            5) The biggest problem with our economy today is Barack Obama. His demonization of successful people, his driving up gas prices, his regulatory overload and threats to increase taxes have terrified businesses into hunkering down, refusing to spend money, and declining to hire new people. Replacing him would do more than any government policy to spur economic growth.

            6) Not only are conservatives more patriotic than liberals, but most American liberals “love” America in about the same way that a wife-beater loves his wife.

            7) Out of every 100 cries of “Racism” you hear these days, 99 are motivated by nothing other than politics.

            8) Anyone paying income taxes is certainly paying his “fair share” — and then some — compared to the people who pay nothing.

            9) You don’t have a “right” to anything that other people have to pay to provide for you.

            10) If we can ask people to present an ID to buy alcohol, drive a car, or get on an airplane, then asking them to present identification to vote is a no-brainer.

            11) There’s absolutely nothing that the government does smarter, better, or more efficiently than the private market with roughly equivalent resources.

            12) The biggest problem with education in this country is liberals. They fight vouchers, oppose merit pay, refuse to get rid of terrible teachers, and bend over backwards to keep poor kids trapped in failing schools.

            13) Fascism, socialism, and communism are all left-wing movements that have considerably more in common with modern liberalism than modern conservatism.

            14) The Democratic Party was behind slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow laws. It was also the party of Margaret Sanger, George Wallace, and Bull Connor. It has ALWAYS been a racist party. Even today, white liberals support Affirmative Action and racial set-asides because they still believe black Americans are too inferior to go up against whites on an even playing field.

            15) A man with good morals who falls short and becomes a hypocrite is still a far better man than a liberal who can never be called a hypocrite because he has no morals at all.

            16) The most dire threat to America’s future and prosperity in the last 150 years hasn’t been the Nazis, the Soviets, or Al-Qaeda;, it’s the spending and overreach of our own government.

            17) Greed isn’t someone wanting to keep more of what he earns; it’s people demanding a greater share of money that someone else earns.

            18) Most of the time in American politics, the liberal “victim” is really a bad guy who is absolutely delighted by the opportunity to pretend to be “offended.”

            19) Jesus Christ was not a conservative, a liberal, or a politician. He was also not a capitalist or a socialist. Still, you can say this: Jesus drew sharp lines about what’s right and wrong, he wasn’t tolerant of what the Bible categorizes as sinful behavior, and there’s absolutely no question that he would adamantly oppose abortion and gay marriage.

            20) When you demand that other people fund your sexual escapades by buying your contraception, your sex life becomes their business.

            best regards, Joe T

          • What a load of nonsense. The Founding Fathers were extremely suspicious of religion and adamant about the need to separate church and state.

            “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.” — John Adams

            “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” — Thomas Jefferson

            Obama is to blame for ‘rising gas prices’? Are you experimenting with hallucinogenics son? Gas prices are the lowest they’ve been in many years — almost $2.00 per gallon.

            There’s nothing that the government does better than private business, eh? So are you saying that you propose we abolish the United States Military and replace them with outfits like Blackwater?

            We know why you hate Obama, Opie, and it’s not because he’s destroyed the US economy. Every single claim of gloom and doom by you people has fallen by the wayside as the economy improves under Obama every day. Having run out of things to complain about, you people are now trying to grab the credit for what you claimed Obama would never achieve: A healthy economy. It won’t work.

            Better stay away from the magic mushrooms, son — you’re losing your grip on reality.

          • I wish people, like you, would study the Founding Fathers and what they did and said. Use real history books and not the new propaganda books coming out that misquotes and lies about them. The Founding Fathers wanted a separation of church and state and so did Jesus. If I thought hate-mongers were real Christians, I wouldn’t want to be one.

          • Ghostwriter communique’
            parallel – time:13:42
            I wish people like you were more enlightened about
            history; feel free to Google same for verification of info.
            We are a messenger not the message you are attacking the wrong entity.
            Truth will prevail…not angst nor bombastic posts.
            best regards…
            ciao 4 now…post what you will, so will we.

          • The day I have to know what is going on by googling is the day I have stopped thinking. You can find anything on the internet to support what you already believe. History was my favorite subject in high school and in college. I still have all my textbooks. I find my information by reading the Congress records. I suggest you read, “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,” and “The Rise of American Government.” Stop only perusing that which supports your ideology.

          • Ghostwriter communique’

            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”
            ― Friedrich Nietzsche

            You post want you will, we post what we will.

            “There are two different types of people in the world, those who want to know, and those who want to believe.”
            ― Friedrich Nietzsche

            Truth will prevail, sans Dems/Obama spins
            best regards…

          • Ghostwriter communique’

            “You have your way. I have my way. As for the right way, the correct way, and the only way, it does not exist.”

            ― Friedrich Nietzsche

          • With all due respect, I think you should read or re-read the Christian Bible (it’s a documented history of human life) cover to cover and use a yellow marker when you discover things that enlighten you of words and events some 2000 years ago.
            Even if you have athetheist or agnostic beliefs.

          • I told my kids what you said and they are still laughing. Read the Bible cover to cover – I was a Sunday School teacher. Let’s start with John 4:40, “If anyone says I love God but hateth his brother, he is a liar.” Proverbs 6:16, “Hatred stirs up strife, but love covers all offenses.” I could go on and on. Calling people, who do not believe as you do, names is not love. As for the Constitution, I suggest you get the transcripts of the Continental Congress sessions to see what they were thinking when they built the Constitution. As for great writings: “The Sermon on the Mount” and “The Gettysburg Address” are considered among the finest and most read. They are not full of pretentious words.

          • Wonderful…..can you discern JOB 38:14, just
            2 simple statements from the Christian GOD speaking to JOB in 700 B.C. +/-
            best wishes

          • You know, you are getting a little childish. During the Bible times, without light, the darkness was suspect. They felt all kinds of evil stalked the night. If light is shed on something, the evil can be seen. Shaking the darkness from the earth is a metaphor.

          • Nothing childish about the Christian Bible…you said you taught bible classes………if you can’t discern (understand) JOB 38:14 just say so.

          • When America was 225 years younger than it is today, there were no liberals and no conservatives. And there was no liberalism and no conservatism. Such terms, and the clusters of political views they represent, were unknown in America at least through the era of the Civil War and Reconstruction. How Americans eventually divided into liberals and conservatives, and how liberalism and conservatism came to represent distinct political worldviews, are questions too big to answer fully in this tiny blog space. But we can make some headway by looking at the word “liberal” as it was understood in the era of America’s founding.

            At that time, “liberal” was almost always used in a positive sense and almost always referred to the virtue of liberality. A person was liberal not by having a particular set of political beliefs but by possessing this particular virtue. Following the ancients, especially Aristotle, Americans understood liberality first as the virtue of free and rational generosity. Liberality was the capacity to give of one’s own free will and to give with purpose–in the right way, at the right time, for the right end. Giving that lacked these qualities was not virtuous. Bestowing a hundred dollars cash on a homeless alcoholic, for example, would not be an act of liberality. It would be an act of prodigality–a vice, not a virtue.

          • That’s funny, so I guess you are saying that George Washington was lying through his wooden teeth when he said the following:

            “As mankind becomes more liberal, they will be more apt to allow that all those who conduct themselves as worthy members of the community are equally entitled to the protections of civil government. I hope ever to see America among the foremost nations of justice and liberality.” — George Washington

            He (George Washington) clearly saw liberalism as a concept closely related to equal rights and equality. That’s still true today.

        • Harry Reid Arrested for DWI, Resisting Arrest While Naked

          Were you aware of this about the Honorable Harry Reid, a leader in govt?

          8/9/2012, 5:45 pm

          LAS VEGAS (TPC) Harry Mason Reid, “cowboy poet” who is known to his fans as the Senate Majority Leader, was lying in the middle of the road with no car in sight when another driver spotted him and called 911, according to a recording released Thursday. Officials said Reid was naked and threatened to kill state troopers when he was arrested late Tuesday night.

          Apparently Read was returning home from a poetry reading at the Cowboy Poets Society (CPUSA). He was charged with driving while intoxicated and retaliation or obstruction, and released Wednesday on $21,500 bond from the Clark Co. jail in Las Vegas. A mug shot showed a battered-looking Reid in a T-shirt, with a black eye and dried blood on his face. He later walked barefoot out of the county jail wearing scrubs and a “Viva Las Vegas” baseball cap.

          The 911 caller did not identify Reid by name and said he at first thought the body belonged to a deer. “I’m spooked out,” he said. “I don’t see a vehicle, there’s a couple of cones scattered.” Nevada troopers responding to the scene said a Pontiac Trans Am registered to the 71-year-old Reid had been driven off the road and struck several barricades in a construction road. Reid was not wearing clothes and made threats against the Texas troopers, said a Department of Public Safety spokesman. He said the senator refused sobriety tests, so a blood specimen was taken.

          Ever hear about their despotic side…..he was NAKED and VIOLENT when arrested!!!!!?

          • He can google and find anything to support his faulty ideology. Just because you can find it on the internet doesn’t make it true.

          • Which is precisely why I asked for a source. When a claim is so outlandish or obviously lacking in facts, it’s good to shine the light on the places churning out the crap. What never ceases to surprise me is that people buy into it, until I remember the right has been programmed to believe the fantasies and to pass them on
            It’s why the same old tired right wing rhetorical emails keep circulating. If one keeps hearing the same things over and over again, and doesn’t know better or bother to research the accuracy of it, they seem more believable even when they don’t make a bit of sense.

          • Seriously, shame on you Joe. There isn’t a speck of truth in that outrageous slander. Found on the same website that also claims the vaccinated are spreading contagion’s throughout the population. And the Muslim Brotherhood is currently in charge of the White House.

          • You’re smarter than that website, Joe! At least the
            only one I found claiming such a thing. And, here’s
            something else. Fox didn’t carry the story of an arrest. An arrest is a public information kind of provable thing, Joe. Red State, didn’t say anything.
            Breitbart mum. You know they love a good story like this. Naked, drunk, belligerent, beat up–Dem. Sen. Minority Leader. And what were those TX Troopers doing all the way over in NV. answering 911 calls?

    • The title is ironic, but you don’t get irony. According to the origin and meaning of the word, sabotage, it is possible to undermine the effectiveness of an endeavor without complete success. So, even you, can understand that the Republican opposition did everything possible to undermine the effectiveness of Obama’s presidency though they were not completely successful.

      • Let me begin by wishing you and yours the very best. There is nothing the governments do, regardless of which clan is leading, that improves a countries economy. Governments do nothing but interfere with economics in a negative way. This so called recovery is an illusion. I’d like to here from the 92 million not working about the so called recovery. Holiday spending fell far below expectations, although slightly higher than 2013, mostly thanks to low gas prices. Speaking of that, a major oil company in North Dakota announced the layoffs of 9000 employees this month. Don’t worry though, those magic unemployment numbers will still go down.

        For now, it’s Obama bashing time. 7 years ago you were whining about Bush, in three years we’ll all be whining about the next Statist who get’s to put his head on the chopping block. Nothing will change. The two clans will continue to pretend they are here to help and will play the pro wrestling game and people like you will fall for all the propaganda that fills the MSM.

        Obama is a laughing stock and a national embarrassment. He is a campaigner, not a leader. Clinton, and now Kerry, just make me laugh. What a fricken joke.

        Oh, if you go back in your little history book and check out WHO is really responsible for pushing banks to give mortgages to people who couldn’t afford them, you will see that Bush had NOTHING to do with the collapse of 08. The subprime mortgage fiasco was 100% a Democrat failure. Obama himself, when a lawyer sued Citibank to force them to make said loans. Barney Frank and his minions also played a big role in it. You won’t hear this from the left wing media, they can’t tell the truth, if they did the suicide rate would skyrocket.

        • (C&P from another post, by all means, research my claims!)
          And why is the mighty USA broke(n)? For the answer you’d have to go all the way back to the (roaring) 1920’s.

          The Great Depression was arguably caused by wealth consolidation at the top, while declining income for the workforce resulted in reduced demand for production and the ensuing snowball effect of unemployment, further demand reduction, and the domino effect of curtailed capital investments, the withdrawal of capital
          when stock prices fell, and finally the bank runs, and the crash of ’29.

          Coming out of the Great Depression, with its lessons fresh on the minds of our nation and its
          elected officials, policies were enacted to fortify and bolster the middle class. To kick start a recovery, Roosevelt enacted New Deal work programs for
          the displaced workers like the CCC, CWA, and PWA. Then policies like The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, The Wagner Act, otherwise known as The National Labor Relations Act, and later, the Employment Act of 1946, were measures enacted to fortify the middle class. The Glass-Steagall Act separated the investment banks from commercial banks, and marginal tax rates were set at 90%.
          These measures, it was agreed, were necessary to fortify the middle class (create and sustain a dynamic consumer market), stabilize the financial sector, and practically assure the investment of capital back into the USA.

          These measures were met with bitter opposition and cries of protest from the financial and business sectors and their friends and profit protectors in Congress who claimed they were “unconstitutional,” an “infringement on freedoms,” “socialism,” etc. … Sound familiar?

          But look at the results! For the remainder of most of the 20th century, the USA cultivated the world’s premier, most prosperous consumer economy. The cumulative effect of employing millions of high wage workers resulted not only in the clearing of retail shelves (DEMAND) and the uptick in production, but in the filling of local, state, and federal treasuries. To get a tax break, our wealthy INVESTED their vast wealth in the USA. A win-win-win set-up. Our middle class was gainfully employed, our wealthy received outstanding returns on their INVESTMENTS, taxed at a fraction of their marginal rate or 90%, and our treasuries were plush with cash.

          Together, we were able to achieve the largest expansion in US history, create a “social safety
          net” (Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, and unemployment compensation), develop the world’s most powerful military, rebuild post WWII Europe and Japan (The Marshall Plan), win the Race to the Moon, AND win the Cold War against the competing Communist system.

          During those years of unparalleled Historic USA expansion and investment, we even had a few
          years when there were budget surpluses (1951, 56, and 57). We also had steady trade surpluses up until around 1975; by then the offshoring of manufacturing jobs (shoe, garment, textile, toys, and electronics) to 3rd world countries to by-pass the high wage US worker began to take its toll. Then, by the end of the millennium, GATT and NAFTA, but in 2001, when China (Avg. wage- $1.36/hr., some work for 30 cents/hr) joined the WTO (with MFN status), even our jobs in Mexico
          left for China, and it’s been a steep downhill plunge ever since. (Incidentally, our burgeoning trade deficits exceeded over Half a Trillion
          $$$/yr. by 2004 and have not diminished!)

          In my view, our middle class got fat and happy and left the fight for their slice of the American Pie to “someone else,” but in the business sector, their eye never wanders from the bottom line. They continued to probe the fences for weaknesses so they could reclaim their “losses” to US labor. FTAs incentivized the jobs exodus to offshore sweatshops and introduced the “global economy” where “multinationals” and “transnationals” continue to monopolize world commerce. The Gramm, Leach, Bliley Act, initiated the deregulation fever that created the lucrative bonus systems on Wall Street and witnessed the “smartest men in the room” behaving badly, then
          Citizens United, Super PACs, in our “pay-to-play” legislature we have today purchased our elections. Marginal taxes on our top earners were continuously reduced since the 50s and 60s until today where marginal rates are around 35%
          (they were dropped to 28% throughout the 80s) and capital gains (where most of the earnings of the wealthy reside, have been reduced to somewhere around 15% about half the rate the middle class pays… All of these bills advanced the interests of BIG $$$, and the by-pass of the spoiled, fat and complacent US middle class (aka: we the people). And now, after 30 years of favor for our “job creators” (how disingenuous), and the decimation of the middle class, the USA has her tit in a ringer!

          Ironically, no sooner had the USA won the Cold War, proving to the world that capitalism, combined with a prosperous middle class consumer market was a system that really worked, than capitalists went about proving Karl Marx right about how
          unchecked capitalism works.

          And now, after just 30 years of legislative favor, we’re back to pre-Great Depression conditions
          where corporatists have managed to garner all of the gains to themselves that they were once required to share. Our Utopian (sophisticated and expensive) society is going broke, and guesses who is making record gains again?

          We’ve forgotten the lessons of the past.

          • And now, after just 30 years of legislative favor, we’re back to pre-Great Depression conditions where corporatists have managed to garner all of the gains to themselves that they were once required to share. Our Utopian (sophisticated and expensive) society is going broke, and guesses who is making record gains again?

            We’ve forgotten the lessons of the past.

            I agree 100%! I have no need to verify your post because the last paragraph say’s it all. But, the whole BS about unchecked Capitalism is a complete fabrication. The rich are getting richer because of government policies that favor them and the business’s. That is not Capitalism, it’s crony capitalism. Quite a stretch from actual capitalism. Even the article agrees with me. You can’t have unchecked capitalism and legislative favor at the same time, it’s a contradiction. It’s one or the other.

            Your last paragraph say’s it all, the rest is meaningless.

          • The gist has to do with government’s role in establishing BALANCE. Where there are competing interests, government has a legitimate role as an arbitrator of justice and balance. James Madison, on of the authors of our Constitution understood this and warned against the purchase of favor in our legislature; on that we agree.

          • Some history: in the 1980s Reagan wanted to spend more on the military than Congress would allow in his budgets. To alleviate this annoyance, he removed most military spending from his budgets. He then pushed the idea that the military was a Constitutional requirement, and so no budgeting was necessary. Congress was responsible to pay whatever bills he ran up as Commander-in-Chief. In building his military, his budgets were routinely within $100B of being in balance, but he still added $4T to the national debt, mostly by borrowing (after all, deficits don’t matter), though he did raise taxes 13 times. Most of his borrowing was on 20- and 30-year notes.
            GHWB was an adult and saw the huge deficits as detrimental. He cut some military programs and raised taxes to help close the gaps. He continued the Reagan tradition (kept military spending out of his budgets) and added $1T to the national debt in his four years.
            Clinton oversaw a huge growth in the US economy coinciding with the GHWB tax rate increases. He kept the Reagan tradition of not budgeting military costs and so his budgets showed surpluses. However, budgets aren’t spending. During his eight years in office he added another $1T to the national debt.
            GWB came into office during the period when Reagan’s borrowing entered its repayment phase. He continued the tradition of avoiding military costs in his budgets, had Reagan’s debt to pay back, and started two wars (also off the books.) During his term he added $7T to the national debt.
            Obama ended the Reagan practice and includes the costs of the standing military and the wars in the budgets he submits to Congress. The GOP likes this because they can claim he “tripled the deficit”. Spending is reduced from 2008, the Reagan debts are being paid, and the annual increases in the national debt are smaller than 2008.

        • Fannie mae and Freddie mac were admittedly ill-advised attempts to engage a disenfranchised segment of our population into gaining a foothold and incentivize the poor to claim their share of the American Dream through home ownership at a time when the economy was is sound fiscal shape. There was, admittedly, pressure on lending institutions to provide loans to citizens who were under-qualified and ill-prepared to pay back the loans.
          However, these ill-conceived, but well intended policies met with an equal and opposite perpetrator in the form of 1) a deregulated banking system to increase capital gains for our investment industry (Gramm, Leach, Blilley Act (1999) that removed the wall of separation between investment banks their insurers, and commercial banks, and 2) the lucrative bonus system that incentivized the unscrupulous practice (if not illegal) of bundling up sub-prime mortgages with prime (A rated bonds) bonds and selling them off (absent a buyer beware notification; another regulatory “nuisance”) with an A rating on the market, a practice that not only crashed our house of cards economy, but that of the entire world. And that had to do with the ever increasing pressure to push market share stocks higher, higher, and ever higher; no matter what. This was known in the industry as the “light touch regulation” and “age of irresponsibility” in our financial sector. A sector that was unleashed by our friends and profit protectors in the GOP. See how they voted…

          • Both sides are equally guilty of screwing up the economy, why you ask, because they get involved with things that are none of governments business to help make their supporters rich. Go take a peak at how rich the health insurance cronies became because of Obamacrap.

          • We agree, but I’m sure not in the same way. The old, market priced Health Insurance Industry with its $$$Hundreds of Billions of premiums they extracted from businesses, and individuals drives up the cost. A good argument for a single payer system… I know; here we go again…

          • Look into the mortgage collapse more deeply and you find that 2/3 of the mortgage failures (68%) were non-primary mortgages. Yes, that means that 2/3 of the failures were vacation houses, houses bought to flip, houses bought to rent out, etc. Does that sound like money loaned to folks who were “disenfranchised” or “poor” “looking to gain a foothold on the American dream”?
            A further 2/3 of the remaining (20+%) were failures of “home equity loans” tied to a primary mortgage resulting in foreclosure. That means they weren’t loans issued to “disenfranchised” borrowers. There are no statistics available (that I’ve been able to find) that break this group down to show how many borrowed to pay medical expenses and went bankrupt, although from US bankruptcy statistics it would be about 80%.
            So, the total of mortgages that were primary and defaulted directly amounted to about 11% of the total issued (1 out of 9), and most were issued by just five companies nationwide (the biggest being Countrywide.) What is the failure rate in any given year?

  5. One wonders if, with the stock market’s latest dip, if McConnell will accept responsibility for its apparent lack of confidence in the Republican Congress…

    • Much like high gas prices, Obama’s fault until they decrease.
      It doesn’t even matter that neither is true. They think it is because that’s what their “news” sources have fed them..

  6. With selective ideology, people forget who fought the stimulus, the banking reforms and the auto industry bailout. If they would just go back and review the stock market before President Obama and its progress since. During the war criminal years, I lost a lot of money on the stock market that was supposed to be part of my retirement and to help pay my grandchildren’s college.

    • I agree with you entirely however the majority of these people aren’t looking to review facts. They hear all they need to know on Fox and the other paranoid news gazettes. They are fed “news” that confirms what they already feel or fear.
      It’s an easy formula for the right and it works!

  7. This is typical of men who never really grew up. Big babies love to bask in the spotlight even when they have zip, nadda, zilch to do with the work involved in making anything a success.

    To know what the GOP bulls are today only takes a quick review of “WHO” supports them with the biggest “campaign contributions.” That doesn’t begin to tell the whole fabricated stories behind the “WHY” they are campaign contributors. Every piece of legislation brought to Congress has some microscopic measure of campaign donor influence. Pay to Play on a national scale. This is government? On our tax dollars?

    The sum total of the purpose of donating to a candidate’s campaign was a belief that the candidate was in it for the ENTIRE country…not for special interests who believe they are “entitled” to help themselves to keep their businesses in existence. Is that what the Founding Fathers intended when they wrote the Constitution?

    • The sum total of the purpose of donating to a candidate’s campaign was a belief that the candidate was in it for the ENTIRE country…not for special interests who believe they are “entitled” to help themselves to keep their businesses in existence. Is that what the Founding Fathers intended when they wrote the Constitution?

      Well said! But to lay blame on one clan when both are equally guilty is wrongheaded. Go peak at how rich the folks in the health insurance industry became because they supported the Democrats. Masterful job by Obama in doing exactly what he points the finger at the other clan of doing and making his minions follow blindly along.

      • I wish I could be objective about the Insurance Industry in the USA. Through vigilance and past experience, I am vehemently against this extortionist industry.

        Look what’s happened as a result of allowing Big Insurance to expand in the most egregious proportions to the level of fearmongering. Every American in the US who is employed pays some form of insurance that gives little of what is paid in premiums in return. Would Wall Street dare to accept such low ROI? You bet not. But then, it IS Wall Street that drives the extortion of Big Insurance.

        Instead of a single life insurance policy, today, Americans pay healthcare insurance, auto insurance, dental insurance, house insurance, flood insurance and pet insurance.

        Medicare is a joke. Americans pay $104 a month for Part B for 80% of their healthcare needs. The other 20% costs more than the 80% at on average another $200 a month. Why? What idiot in Big Insurance got away with that? But that’s not enough for these grifters. Then, in order to afford prescriptions, people who worked and paid into Medicare long before they retired, must purchase another Part D to cover prescriptions at another $50 to $100 a month.

        It’s no better for the employed either. Most employers figured out how much in profit they would earn plus the HMO discount they’d get just for enrolling employees in the cheapest HMO they can get. All they had to do was force employees to pay for their own healthcare insurance, even when they work in the most dangerous workplace environments.

        The proof of Big Insurance was evident here in my state (NJ) when Hurricane Sandy took out a huge number of homes and damages came to over $200 billion. There are people who lost homes and still have to do battle to settle their claims with the top home insurance businesses even though these homeowners paid house insurance for 2 or more decades.

        When you look at it right? Big Insurance just wants us to pay premiums for insurance we will never get to make claims against.

        One example of this slime ball tactic is here in NJ..PSE&G offers a Worry Free plan (basically insurance) to cover your appliances and HVAC units. Call them and you get a dope who can’t figure out how to open the door to the furnace to “check” it..and that’s all the dope does…checks it, tells you nothing is wrong and then leaves.

        • This is one area that we can agree on. I’ve always disliked the industry. They charge rates that can be barely affordable, refuse to pay claims far too often and generally engage in theft and fraud. When I was young I was beside myself when Auto coverage became State law. Decades later when you ask them why your rates went up despite a perfect driving record, they blame uninsured drivers. My point was that both clans cuddle up to big business and the banksters. neither is innocent and believing so is not looking at the facts. Both play the same game, only they support different aspects of industry. Group A got rich under clan D and group B will get rich under clan R. the circle jerk just continues because people vote to allow it.

  8. Where would the economy be today if the GOP had spent just a small fraction of their obstruction efforts and working with the President and the Democrats in Congress do something positive? The mind reels with the possibilities. Think of all of our fellow citizens who would have been working and adding to the GDP instead of hurting and losing hope. Yeah Mitch you’ve done nothing of value for six years and now you want to re-write history as if you had. What a disingenuous troll.

    • I doubt rejection of investment in infrastructure, rejection of the Veterans Jobs proposal, his admission that the GOP obstructionism that hurt so many Americans was designed to make sure President Obama was a one-term President will make Mitch’s list of “accomplishments”…

  9. McConnell doesn’t have to make sense or even use any facts. He can lie with abandon. He is speaking for the benefit of those who will vote for him and his party. They function on fear and emotions. Facts not required.

    • GOP think tanks, full of well-heeled, well-connected businessmen, backed by enormous capital resources, have come up with some of the most insidious tactics to trick a duped electorate, through the use of social issues like religion, guns rights, the fear of an infringement on personal freedoms, talk of socialism, government over-reach etc. into voting IN FAVOR of larger and larger capital gains for corporations, the financial sector, and those who populate the top 10%, while simultaneously assuring their own demise! BRILLIANT!

  10. Oh, please. The biggest liar is our worst president ever. The American people elected a GOP controlled congress to put a brakes on this disaster. Energy is doing well in this country in spite of Obama, not because of him. All of the new production has taken place on private land. If Obama had his way, gas would would be $10.00 a gallon. And the 96 million people under- and unemployed who are no longer looking for work don’t show up in the unemployment number. The stock market is being propped up by the Fed. Obama is trying to legalize millions of illegal aliens (hint, it’s a lie that there are only 11 million in the country) who are driving down wages in jobs that used to be well paying. If you like your plan, you can keep your plan It’s going to take years to clean up the Obama mess.

    • Our 9 million plus manufacturing jobs offshored to China ($1.36/hr. avg. wage, children with no aptitude for academia work for 30 cents/hr.) may be hiring… How’s the weather (and smog) in Shanghai this time of year?

      • Don’t forget China can sentence people to work in the factories, for whatever, and that work is free for China. India has slave labor and some of those slaves are as young as 8-years-old.

    • TMZ, it’s obvious you need to believe what you believe because you can’t fathom the idea of Obama doing anything right. I almost hope that Romney will run and win in ’16. But I suspect that even then anything he does, it’s to undo what ‘damage’ Obama has done. There’s nothing anyone can do about stupid. And to think I bet you are one who criticizes groups like ISIS, when you indeed share their same philosophy.

    • Here you go – a quote that saysit all!! ”

      “Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home–but not for housing. They are strong for labor–but they are stronger for restricting labor’s rights. They favor minimum wage–the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all–but they won’t spend money for teachers or for schools. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine–for people who can afford them. They consider electrical power a great blessing–but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They think American standard of living is a fine thing–so long as it doesn’t spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so muchthat they would like to buy it.”

      ― Harry S. Truman

      • “Republicans believe every day is 4th of July. Democrats believe every day is April 15.”
        -Ronald Reagan

        “A liberal is a man too broad-minded to take his own side in a quarrel.”
        -Robert Frost

        “Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.”
        -Thomas Sowell

        “Liberals become indignant when you question their
        patriotism, but simultaneously work overtime to give terrorists a cushion for the next attack and laugh at dumb Americans who love their country and hate the enemy.”
        -Ann Coulter

        “It isn’t that liberals are ignorant; it’s that they know so much that isn’t so.”
        -Ronald Reagan

        A liberalis someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money. –G Gordon Liddy

        If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free. –P.J. O’Rourke

        A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enoughto take everything you have.–Unknown –

        Thomas Jefferson quotes:

        1. “To compel a man to subsidize with his taxes the propagation of ideas which he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.”
        2.”A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
        In Greece, currently 40% of the population works while the other 60% sits on their asses, taking.
        3. “Agriculture, manufactures, commerce and navigation, the four pillars of our prosperity, are the most thriving when left most free to individual enterprise.” (what was it you were saying about conservatives and farming? I have been in farming. What you stated is crap.

    • Absolutely and exactly….. Isn’t it funny how the Liberals are taking credit for this….. Geez, the insanity by these people never fails to amaze me.

      Here’s a great article about the stock market:

      http://seekingalpha.com/article/2794485-fed-abandons-stock-markets-in-2015-watch-out

      They even admit that wages are stagnant. Pretty bad when there is no surge in new business and there are umpteen part-time jobs. By the way, as usual, employment has gone down because many people were let go after the holidays. Now the moron wants to take money away from successful people and give it to the poorer among us… What a Communist. We will need generations to get back to being a nation again, if we ever do.

  11. I am told Mitch and John Boehner want to dive into ocean to retrieve Bil Laden. These two want Bin Laden buried as a Christian. Next they want to re- invite Yemen to purchase part of NY that Democrats stopped the sale during Bush II admin. Boehner and Mitch are so really upset about low gas prices. They are crafting a bill to stop any further oil production because low gas prices are hurting their stocks.

    • HYPOCRITE…. Weren’t you the souls who all but wanted to annihilate the oil industy? YOU LIBERALS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GAIN IN OIL PRODUCTION. NOTHING!

      • That is true, but it didn’t stop you from claiming that gas prices were going to exceed $5 a gallon five years ago as a result of President Obama’s policies.
        The current drop in oil prices is influenced by the deliberate economic slowdown in China (while they restructure their economy), the refusal of OPEC countries to reduce production, as Maduro wanted, and increased oil production in the USA, among other things.
        Barring things such as high tariffs, higher subsidies to oil companies, and a significant drop in corporate taxes, Presidents, and our government in general, has little influenced in oil price fluctuations, regardless of what Putin and Maduro claim.

  12. TMZ1928 illustrates perfectly the Fascist “gaslighting” propaganda campaign of the GOP, which began way back in 1920…every Republican alive today has been subjected to this campaign. And, proof that it’s still alive and working well came back in November, when millions of GOP Progressives and Moderates, instead of going to the polls and voting for Democrats (who truly represent them now), stayed home as a “protest” to what their party is now. That essentially gave the GOP’s biggest Congressional majority since the 71st Congress (1929-1931).
    But, as those of us who are aware of history know, the 71st Congress and President Hoover would soon realize what happens when the upward wealth redistribution policies of their party lead to financial strife, as it did with the Wall Street Crash of October, 1929 and the resulting Great Depression.
    What TMZ1928 and other Fascist Republicans refuse to admit are several things: they’re Fascists; they practice upward wealth and power redistribution; their politicians are beholden to only three groups of “people” (fetuses, rich old white Conservative men and big corporations) and that they’ve been on the wrong side of history since the founding of this country.
    In a hysterical irony, when the GOP was founded and for nearly the first two decades of its existence, it was full of Liberals and Progressives. Yep, the GOP, especially the Fascist Cons, hate to admit that truth. At that time, they were DEMOCRATS. Five score and three years after Abraham Lincoln’s assassination, the last of the Conservative Democrats (“Dixiecrats”) left the party to become Republicans. But, it took only seven years after that assassination for the Cons to move to the GOP and flush out the Liberals. The Progressive Republicans have been much more difficult to chase away; in fact, the voting majority (66%) of the party are still Progressives and Moderates.
    But, wait, you may ask…how have the Cons managed to maintain power and control of the party despite being a minority within it?!? The aforementioned Fascist gaslighting propaganda campaign, that’s how.
    The fact that TMZ1928 spews the Fascist gaslighting propaganda and believes that President Obama is the worst President ever is an example of “projection”, a psychiatric ploy and the worst form of hypocrisy. GOPers are expert projectional hypocrites.
    Back in 1930, GOP Progressives and Moderates launched what I call the first Republican Progressive and Moderate Revolution. Those huge GOP majorities in Congress in the 71st session became a small majority in the Senate and a small minority in the House for the 72nd. In the next three elections (1932, 1934 and 1936), GOP Progressives and Moderates teamed up with Democrats to hand the GOP embarrassing losses at the polls. The worst was the last, when those elections left the GOP with less than a quarter of the seats in the House and only 16 Senators.
    We needed another Republican Progressive and Moderate Revolution last year, but the Fascist gaslighting propaganda campaign disallowed that. So, now, GOP Progressive and Moderates, when are you going to FINALLY realize that your party is being run by a Fascist and psychopathic Con minority and that you need to go to the polls and vote for Democrats?!?
    (And, for TMZ1928 and other insane Republicans: seek psychiatric help immediately, if not sooner)

  13. “Rejected”

    FDR at the Gates of Hell

    A stranger stood at the Gates of hell
    And the Devil himself answered the bell.
    He looked him over from head to toe
    And said: My friend, I’d like to know
    What you have done in the line of sin
    To entitle you to come within?

    Then Franklin D, with his usual guile
    Stepped forth with his toothy smile and said:

    “When I took charge in ’33
    A nations faith was mine,” said he.
    “I promised them this and I promised them that
    And I calmed them down with a fireside chat.

    I spent their money in fishing trips
    And fished from the decks of their battleships.
    I gave them jobs in the WPA
    Then raised their taxes and took it away.
    I raised their wages and closed their shops
    I killed their pigs and buried their crops
    I double-crossed both old and young
    And still the folks my praises sung.

    I brought back beer, and what do you think?
    I taxed it so high they couldn’t drink.
    I furnished ’em money with Government loans
    When they missed a payment I took their homes.

    When I wanted to punish the folks, you know
    I’d put my wife on the radio.
    I paid them to let their farms lie still
    And imported foodstuffs from Brazil.
    I curtailed crops when I felt real mean
    And shipped in crops from the Argentine.

    When they started to worry, stew and fret
    I got them to chant the alphabet
    With the AAA and the NLB
    The WPA and the CCC.
    With these many units I got their goats
    And still I crammed it down their throats.
    My workers worked with the speed of snails
    While the taxpayers chewed their fingernails.

    When the organization needed dough
    I closed their plants with the CIO.
    I ruined jobs, I ruined health
    And I put the screws on the rich man’s wealth.
    And some who couldn’t stand the gaff
    Would call on me and how I’d laugh.

    When they got too strong on certain things
    I’d pack and head for “Ole Warm Springs.”
    I ruined their country, their homes and then
    I placed the blame on “Nine Old Men.”

    Now Franklin talked both long and loud
    And the devil stood and his head he bowed.
    At last he said: “Lets make it clear
    You’ll have to move, you can’t stay here
    For once you mingle with this mob,
    I’ll have to find myself a job.”

    Circa 1938

        • Such a stupid remark! Don’t you get tired of calling everyone that doesn’t agree with you a Communist and Marxist? I would guess you can’t even give a true definition of either word!!

          • Progressivism in today’s politics is modern day Communism. Sorry if you don’t like that definition. Take some time and learn about what Marx wrote and you will see what the Democrat Party has become.

          • Sorry, if you don’t like Marx. But truth is, there would have never been a Karl Marx, at least one we’d have ever heard of. If not for the unbridled predatory Capitalism, that was impoverishing, ergo, enslaving the masses of 19th century Europe. The World would have never needed to take notice of a Marx, or any other of the likeminded revolutionary economists of his day.

          • We would not have become the most powerful nation on the planet if not for Capitalism. The free market , which is no longer free due to government intervention and theft, has led to the crony capitalism we have today. This is true for every country around the world. Read up on how the Venezuelans are living these days under their socialist elected government. Without capitalism, their is no chance at attaining ones true worth. I simply laugh at people who fail to understand that capitalism is simply a form of a free economy. There is no other form of economy that provides the opportunities to become financially successful.

            What exactly would you prefer in it’s place? For the record, I don’t like to crony capitalism that we now have. Get government out and we all stand a better chance. But the question remains, what form of economy would you prefer?

          • I can tell you exactly what kind of economy I prefer. A market based economy, with a gov. who’s role it is to protect the public from Capitalisms worst traits. By the way, there has never been the kind of unfettered Capitalistic free market, as the Right is describing, anywhere in the World. None even close. And comparisons of the U.S. economy to Venezuela’s, is beyond the scope of honesty, quite frankly. In the same class as equivocating the budget process of a Gov. with a 315 million population, and a 17 trillion dollar economy, with that of the generic Mom, and Dad, balancing the check book around the kitchen table. And forgive me, but other such Right Wing, ideology for idiots. Like we’re becoming Greece. A Country with an economy roughly the size of Kansas. Minus the annual infusions of Federal cash. It’s doctrine who’s premise is supported in this case, by a false analogy, put fourth as evidentiary information.

          • “I can tell you exactly what kind of economy I prefer. A market based economy, with a gov. who’s role it is to protect the public from Capitalisms worst traits”

            Now we’re getting somewhere, but slowly. Let’s make some progress and define what the worst traits of Capitalist’s are. I’m curious as to how you define these traits.

          • Despite what Von Mises claims, there are some inherent pitfalls to the execution of a Capitalistic system that creates the potential for the abuse of those with no power, over those who wrest power from an advantage.
            The working conditions, for example, of many USA citizens during the Industrial Revolution leading up to WWI and WWII were exploitative, and abusive. Working for “the man” in the coal mines, our immigrants were put to work on the railroad construction crews for a pittance, worker’s rights were none-existent. If you get a chance to visit PA, there are many mining museums that carry logs of the mining “accidents” that claimed the lives of miners. Even though miners quotas were set at a certain tonnage, after which a miner could be paid his wage, this quota left no time for the installation of proper timber supports and props (safety measures). Miners picked and shoveled on and on long after the creeks, and cracks were heard and ignored in order to fulfill their “quota” and make a wage. When cave-ins happened, the investigation ALWAYS concluded with these words: “Miner’s error.”
            The exploitation of the agri. workers and pickers.
            Then there’s the scorched earth policies including pollution of every kind in the pursuit of the cultivation of every natural resource on earth.
            Discriminatory practices of those in power over those with no power.
            To name a few.

          • Yet, the minors were free to leave and pursue other avenues. In some countries, this option is not available and conditions are far worse. Without workers, companies fail. With State control, the people fail. What would you rather have, a life in Communist China or a life here. When people give up their free will to others, there is no freedom, just misery. Progressives seem more than willing to leave their free will to the power of the State. Your free to choose your path, but you are NOT free to drag me along.

          • I don’t believe Von Mises ever said life was not without pitfalls. Everything has pitfalls and life isn’t fair. To pretend that somehow fairness can be forced upon people by government force will always fail. It is quite possible that the European economy will be in shambles far worse than today. I Greece elects the political party expected, they may well leave the European Union and the Euro. If that happens, the EU may cease to exist as we know it and an economic collapse of most of Europe may follow. There is a basic path that should always be concerned. Currency wars, trade wars World Wars. Russia has turned off the natural gas to Ukraine and several other countries. It’s winter.
            Your concerned with past issues that have since been resolved, claiming that because of labor issue of the past, that no longer exist are somehow a case against Capitalism. My case FOR Capitalism is that those issues don’t exist anymore, because in a Capitalist society, dead minors don’t make money. I live in Pa!

          • For what it’s worth, this is where we differ. Capitalism and free markets are the best model we’ve got, but it has become corrupt: upon that we probably agree. Our differences apparently arise over the role of governments in the establishment of “fairness.”

            That is the role government plays; in the establishment of laws that determine what is in-bounds and what is out-of-bounds.

            Capitalism, in its purest sense is the exchange of goods, or services, agreed upon before the transaction, based in a mutual settlement about what is a “fair” deal.

            What we have today IS NOT a fair deal for all involved. It is closer to a usurpation of power, due to the creation of an imbalance of power by those few who’ve been able to rig the system in their favor. Our government has relinquished its role as arbiter of a just system in favor of “money for influence,” while turning a blind eye to their role as the arbiter of fairness.

          • Dadgummit, I’m not making a good RWNJ today because I’m in agreement again, LMAO! We have Crony capitalism, which is what I have heard as what capitalism is when government interferes for the benefit of the few. We can stand together against that! The only real capitalism we have is the “black market” or things like garage sales and flea markets. Government’s don’t like true capitalism, as we have all seen with the death of Eric Garner in NY. It was his selling loosie’s that had him in trouble with the government goons (the police) who showed up fro one thing, only to find themselves enforcing crony capitalism, by use of force. Crony capitalism comes in many forms, all of which are enforced through force or threat of force.

            I say that for a reason. If the government is enforcing their own corruption, how can we trust them with “fairness”? Who gets to determine what is “fair”? Your idea and my idea are likely different, but I really think we can agree on what I believe is governments role (you will likely want MORE from government than I ). I see government’s duties as ensuring that all people are treated equal under the law and all people are taxed to the minimum needed to fund the minimum needed to do this. The income tax is BS and needs eliminated (it won’t because confusion allows for control).

            I don’t mind paying some taxes for needed programs that are best served as the duty of government. Let’s forget taxes and leave that part for later, if that’s OK? All people should be treated equally under our laws. That’s about it. I have come to the realization that life isn’t fair. The strong will always have it better. I don’t mean strong as in personal strength, but strong intellectually. Groups of like minded people will gather and attempt to make life better for them. Some will do so in an unethical and /or immoral manner. Government should make and enforce laws based on ethics and morals, not group affiliation (which is one of our problems).

            Rather than go on, maybe we should just discuss what is “fair” to you.

          • I became well acquainted with the owner of a teacher supply store here. In order to entice Walmart (and jobs) the city did not charge taxes on them. The owner of the teacher supply store paid high taxes. Shades of the early 1900s over again and this time, no fair and balanced media to expose them.

          • Me, either. I don’t feel good about letting the employees help pay for what I get. Now, if we could just get the nuts, who carry loaded guns with the safety off, to do their shopping in Walmart, we could feel safer.

          • Sounds familiar to offering ‘free’ college’ while others will be paying off their student loans for years and years to come. Whenever one party is advantaged with ‘fairness’ another always suffers.

          • A company, like Walmart, can move into a community, undercut the existing business, pay low wages, give less than 30 hours per person to avoid paying benefits and run the fair business out. Walmart can afford to pay less than cost for a short time. That is all it takes for some local businesses.

          • We not only subsidize Walmart with all of the normal subsidies that our tax code offers corporations, but we also pad their $129BILLION/yr. profit margin by subsidizing their welfare qualifying workforce.

            “There is no doubt that food stamps (and a host of other public subsidies from Medicaid to home heating assistance to the Earned Income Tax Credit and beyond) reduce Walmart’s employment costs substantially. A study released last year by staff of the U.S. House Committee on Education and the Workforce found that a single 300-employee Walmart Supercenter may cost taxpayers anywhere from $904,542 to nearly $1.75 million per year.”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAcaeLmybCY

          • Since those coalminers, were brought here from foreign countries, because they did not speak English and were easy to exploit, when they rebelled, they were shot down by the pinkertons. The mine owners did not even pay them in money. They provided housing without plumbing. They paid them in script that could only be exchanged at the company store. The housing was overcharged as were the prices at the store. The miners asked that their day be shortened to 16 hours or less. Mine safety was unheard of and children were sent into the mines to work. Rockefeller’s railroad went into cahoots with the big meat plants, oil industry and coal mines to force the smaller businesses out. They had special rates for the big plants and business and overcharged the smaller businesses. This is what capitalism used to be. It is headed that way again.

          • Well, think about it Gary. You berate them all the time. You just blame the gov. because you’re under the illusion I guess, that the gov. is somehow in control of itself. You know those policies you blame on the gov.? That you claim are interfering in the free market, are actually beholden politicians adopting laws written word for word by these various private sector interests themselves. Look, there’s nothing about unfettered Capitalism that protects a free market. You believe that? Well, it’s true anyway. Take the classic case of Standard oil. Where Rockefeller essentially used his position in the market, and his considerable influence on the gov. to drive the competition out. And by doing that, he controlled everything else. The supply, the price, the cost of labor, owned the distribution, determined the quality, and quantity. And fulfilled the major directive at the heart of unbridled Capitalism, maximized profits. So, that’s how it works, without a regulator. Pretty soon there’s no opportunity for
            the vast majority. Just a few very rich, and powerful
            Kings sitting astride the mechanism everyone has to use to make a living. And, there’s simply no incentive to just gratuitously pay more for labor. When one controls every job in the industry, industriousness really don’t count for much, when every dollar paid out is a dollar less in the final tally.
            Sure talented hard workers could threaten to quit. But where are they going to go, really? Rockefeller of course wasn’t the only super Capitalist in the Country at the turn of the early 20th century. And he wasn’t the only one to have built a monopoly, cornered the market, and turned competition on it’s head, and controlled their own sector of the Nation’s economy. In fact it was becoming evident, to some, that this concentration of power had become so great. That it became a matter of some alarm, that if by chance some collusion were to occur between these few individuals, they could collectively shut down the Country, and bring down the gov. It was a time that brought us the expression, “railroaded thru.” Because the railroad magnates got whatever they wanted from Congress.
            And because the gov. often ran out of money giving
            them what they wanted, it was always broke. And
            before the establishment of the Federal Reserve, these same men were who the gov. turned to for a loan.

          • You just blame the gov. because you’re under the illusion I guess, that the gov. is somehow in control of itself.

            I blame government because they are corrupt.

            That you claim are interfering in the free market, are actually beholden politicians adopting laws written word for word by these various private sector interests themselves

            Yes, refer to previous statement.

            Look, there’s nothing about unfettered Capitalism that protects a free market.

            How do we know, we’ve never experienced unfettered Capitalism.

            Because the railroad magnates got whatever they wanted from Congress.

            Yes, so much for unfettered.

            You claim that I blame government instead of unfettered capitalism, then prove my case for me. Thanks.

          • I think you seriously need to sit down and see if what you’re writing makes sense. First off, gov, is corrupt.
            You say. So therefore, all people in gov. are corrupt. How does it work in your mind, that only corrupt people get elected? If, “they,” are the gov. and all are corrupt? And therefore the gov. is corrupt. Then what? What is your ultimate solution here, that is within the realm of possibility, going to be? Gov is corrupt, so dispense with gov. Well, that don’t work, my friend. So where are you going to find these incorruptible people, that can’t be bought, that allows this as yet untried, but infallible, Free Market Utopia, you stand for? Because, where there’s authority, oversight, coordination, et.al. there will be bribes, and corruption, and it will come from the people with money outside the gov, who will do the corrupting. Or am I missing a part of unfettered Capitalism that prohibits, such activity?

          • I claim no Utopia . We have never had unfettered in the US in modern times. There is no system that will be perfect, but the hate for something that doesn’t exist, actual capitalism is based on nothing of substance. As long as there is government interference, it’s not capitalism because it is no longer a “free” market. We are basically stuck with what we have, both in economics and government. The only event that could change both would be a complete collapse of the worlds economy and social structure. WWIII could do that.
            We both know that politics is run by money and “we the people” are so far away from their world it’s saddening. All they need from the people is their vote, to maintain legitimacy. As long as they get that, they have permission to continue to make rich people richer. Both sides are guilty of it. To claim otherwise is idiocy. To think it will change because your clan is in charge (which they were for two years) has already been proven a fallacy. The other clan is the same as your clan, with a different colored tie or pants suit. It’s the great circle jerk of politics, keep the people divided, the rich always win. Then the people go vote and the circle jerk continues.
            When are the people going to realize that doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is nothing more than insanity?

          • Matthew 17:20

            He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”
            No, I’m not going to preach to you. You know most Liberals are supposed to be atheists! And I’m not all that particularly religious myself. But, I thought of this verse in the Bible, upon reading your post. And what it says to people, and what I wanted to remind you of, is in the importance staying positive. That with even a small amount of faith, we may move mountains. But without it, we are defeated before we start. So, as I think I’ve pointed out before, I disagree with your overall cynicism. As it ultimately leads to nowhere, but a dead end. And, neither do I agree, both political Parties are two sides of the same coin. That’s exactly what the Communist propagandist have always claimed about our system “You know them Capitalist in America, they say. They sell their gov. to the highest bidder, and allow the sheeple to vote, so they think they live in a democracy. My sense is, when we find ourselves agreeing with Communist Propagandists, perhaps we need to reconsider some of our our conclusions. So, yes, I do absolutely believe change is possible, and I also realized it is always hard. Usually maddeningly frustratingly slow, and never turns out 100% the way we might have it. So, we need to approach it always as an effort in progress. Acknowledging the rich will always be rich, and have certain advantages. But, not always the last word, unless we cede it to them. And also we must use our common sense, and realize, it doesn’t take WWIII to accomplish it. That most of the really hard lifting has been done in this Country. And how fortunate, compared to others, that makes our situation here. For as history has proved, we don’t need violent revolution, and revolutions often fail. As long as those in gov. as corrupt, and as bought out as some undoubtedly are, still need our permission for legitimacy, and continue to require our vote to have it, change is always eminently within our reach. And so herein lies my great rift with the naysayers, that refuse to accept any of that. Today I see nihilistic people seeking office in a gov. they claim to detest. And under a faux patriotic flag, intentionally work to make all their vile characterizations of gov. a reality. They are either tools, fools, or traitors of the most heinous kind. But whatever they are, they hurt the People, and hurt the Country, when they go into what is supposed to be public service, with a belief that the idea of public service thru gov. itself, is charade, a lie writ large, and told for an ulterior purpose. The result of this lack of faith, if that’s what it is. Is it tends to garner the support of the most radical, extreme, and irresponsible people among us. Those that demand
            change according to their terms. And believe that can only happen, not thru a democratic process, but if chaos reigns, if old systems fail, crash, and their Worldview may then be created out of the ruins. A quick look around the World would tell these ideologues they were wrong, If they weren’t so caught up in the dead certainty of their own fanatical
            ideology. Of being ideologues. Which by nature believe they are correct in all matters. So much so, that compromise on anything is grounds for being kicked out of the cause as a turncoat. So much so, they feel justified in telling their supporters anything, if it keeps their support, and they prevail in the end. As the kids say, It’s all good. So now, what kind of gov. do you think they would create with those beliefs, if they were to prevail? After the Federal gov. is made small enough to drown in a bathtub, then drowned as one put it? What kind of gov. is usually created when ideologues rule?

          • My cynicism in our government is deeply rooted in historical fact. More humans have died as a result of government action, than by any other natural or unnatural cause known to man . We don’t have to look that far back in history to see this. Great societies tend to follow a general path from beginning to end:

            From bondage to spiritual faith;
            ◾From spiritual faith to great courage;
            ◾From courage to liberty;
            ◾From liberty to abundance;
            ◾From abundance to complacency;
            ◾From complacency to apathy;
            ◾From apathy to dependence;
            ◾From dependence back into bondage.

            As I see it, with so many dependent on government we are somewhere near the bottom of that chart. Our guaranteed freedoms under the Bill of Rights is seemingly under constant attack. Being spied on by the Feds, all well known, is mostly ignored by folks because “they have nothing to hide”. Voting by machine in elections monopolized by two political parties, neither of which actually do more than enrich their donators. A police state that is growing daily, but few ask why. How many people on college campus’s don’t know how many branches of government we have in DC, who won the Revolutionary war etc. Lot’s to consider. If I’m a cynic, there is a good reason. Which is strange because I’m an optimist.

          • Really Gary? Are you going to start with the dependency on gov. thing? Let me tell you, everybody depends to the gov. for something. I do, you do too. Sure, nobody wants to be spied on. But then, let a jihadist kill a few of us, and what happens? You know what happens. The people want to know, how could this happen? Who in the gov. dropped the ball? We certainly do not take the attitude, that this is out there, we know it is. But, we’d rather be blindsided once in a while, than have our privacy intruded on. Than to allow a corrupted gov. we don’t trust, to build a police state. People don’t think like that. They only think they want this itsy bitsy gov. when someone else has a problem. Or, when this other group needs something, that we might assume doesn’t involve us. We’re kind of self oriented, when it comes to what we think gov. ought to be doing. And we can always find plenty to gripe about, can’t we?

          • Governments have a purpose for sure. I think the feds have gone far beyond what is “needed”. Yes, we can certainly find plenty to gripe about, LOL. That’s what they seem to want, keeps the illusion that we have a voice in government via a vote. Yet we get one a choice between just two clans most often, not much of a choice.
            My concern with spying falls to when one clan gets the power and can use that against the people. It’s historically common for this to occur when the traditional democracy evolves. Whether or not the IRS mess and the DOJ antics are believed by you or not, if they are true, then the evolution as noted in the past started. That should scare both of us.

          • Somalia is a free market paradise, is this the model you desire?
            Freemarkets are ripe for plunder, making corruption the oligarchs go to tactic.
            Invisible hands are a fairy tale, markets are never free.

          • LOL, Gary….ya know, it’d be nice if you Firebaggers (Libertarians, since you claim not to be a Republican) would simply disband the party and become Republicans. After all, there’s very little difference between the GOP and Firebaggers. And, highpckts is correct; you can’t even define Communism or Marxism. So, you need to call your favorite Firebagger propagandist (whomever that is) and get new talking points/propaganda…the stuff you’re spewing is old and has been debunked constantly.

        • It’s fascist propaganda, as opposed to the truth, is what it is. Obviously written before FDR annihilated the Fascist regimes of Hitler, and Mussolini. Liberated Europe, and crushed the imperial warmongers of The Empire of Japan. While his legacies, like Social Security, unemployment insurance, the GI Bill, regulations restraining unbridled speculation in the financial sector, and depositor’s insurance, kept the economy out of the boom, deep depression cycle, for the next 80 years. Ushering in an unprecedented period of wide spread economic growth, that created the most powerful economic engine man had ever seen. Colloquially referred to as the American Middle Class. I know, I know. This is now viewed as Liberal propaganda fed to the masses by a Socialistic Public School System. So spare me.

          • And now the actual spawn of fascists comes on here telling us what is wrong with Democracy as we have known it before his parents immigrated.

        • And, since when did Fascism become a better governmental system than Socialism, Marxism or Communism?!? Seriously, Gary: you need new propaganda/talking points.

          • I don’t want any of them. Still trying to get something intelligent to come from your keyboard I see, get some help!

          • If you don’t want any of them, as you claim, Gary, why are you sticking up for the Fascists? Nice projection on the :”still trying to get something intelligent to come from your keyboard..” nonsense LOL

          • Fascism has nothing to do with the Conservatives. We don’t identify with that horrible regime, however:… your leanings towards Marxism is astonishing

            “Conservatives who dare to speak out or found a group of like-minded citizens (the violation of Freedom of Assembly has not been mentioned enough in the outrage!) are in fact targeted,
            hassled, threatened, audited, and yes, let’s use the word discriminated against by a LIBERAL government.

            Leftists, Socialists, and Communists are notorious for abridging and eliminating Freedom of Speech when they take over: Hitler (Socialist), Stalin, and Mao (Communists) were the 3 most famous examples from the last century.

            How ironic that Liberals have today – more than ever before – marched into the extreme behavior of their formerly distant cousins, the
            Communists.

            Power tends to corrupt….”

          • Fascism IS conservatism taken to the extreme. And truth be told, the common threads between the most notorious fascist state in history and American right-wing nuts are racism and propaganda. Groups like the Tea Party cannot function without lying constantly and hiding behind true conservatism, and the racism oozes out in everything they say or do.

            Just what is it that makes you a conservative?

    • Funny how history tells us a different story about FDR.

      Mitch McConnell and conservatives whining about President Obama will appear in future publications the same way your little poem is, forgotten.

  14. CYNTHIA, You have gone way beyond the Kool Aid drinking stage and you have been inoculated with the liberal failure needle. I wonder how in the world you ever won a Pulitzer prize, what did you win it for liberal propaganda?
    Your column is a potpourri of Bull droppings.

    • LMAO…Jack is another Fascist GOP propagandist spewing the Fascist gaslighting propaganda of the GOP, not to mention “projecting”.

    • ROFL! Talk about failure! Everyone now sees what a hypocrite and liar McConnel is! that is anyone with a thinking brain! Oops, I guess that leaves you out!!

      • Hey Highpockets, you liberals can’t converse with anyone without denying what a failure Obama is, and then calling someone names, another anemic post by another liberal exRadioGUY 15, proves my point that you and he can’t argue the point so you call people names. If you two think Obama is not a failure then tell me what you call a president that has put forth nothing but failed policies. Now so you and Radio Guy can comprehend the failed policies of Obama adding over 7 trillion dollars to the national debt, after Bush added 5 trillion because the Democrats were in control of both houses. The only people that think Obama is great are the freeloaders who always have their hand out trying to get something free. I know Radio Guy will read this, so to him I say you are in the same league as HIGHPOCKETS.
        Unlike you two I know how bad the present group of Republican rhino’s are, but as bad as they are you liberal democrats hold the title of dumb and dumber, and you both probably voted for him twice.

        • The national debt percentage of growth has grown the least under Obama. In fact it is up only 2% during his six years in office.
          The 7 trillion you talk about is BS. It has grown by 5 trillion but that is because we have to pay the bills that have already been run up.
          What would you have us do stop paying them?
          Jack, you need to get a true education because things you you write are just not true.

          • St Ronnie the Ray-gun puts it best;

            “It isn’t so much that conservatives are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.”

          • WedgeShot, I won’t waste my time with you my friend because anything I would post would be denied by you and others. I would just ask you a simple question,
            How can any American be so blinded that they refused to see what a failure of a president Obama really is.
            47 million people on food stamps and welfare and growing. Plus if he remains in office and continues his spending the National Debt is going to reach 20 trillion by the end of his next two years.
            Scandels like Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS, SOLANDRA, releasing terrorists into public life, Obamcare and the worst failure Immigration, the only reason he hasn’t been impeached is because of a few rhino republicans who want to protect the fraud they are perpetrating on the American people.
            Now if you choose to believe abject failure is a good thing then your welcome to think that way, but I am not blind or ignorant to the real facts, and I want nothing from this government I choose to earn my way, because if you think what they give you is free then you are delusional, nothing you get from this government is free you will always pay a price.
            That’s my rebuttal, so you can accept failure but I choose not to.

    • Yes, the article is absolute bull. Obama and the Liberals are taking credit for american ingenuity and their dreaded oil no less. Liberal bias media always only gives to their own. Maybe the Right should also develop their own….. LOL

      No Libs, I’m afraid you don’t get credit for a better economy, the GOP oil backers and creative Americans deserve that honor….

  15. BTW: I’d add two words to the title of the article…in between “they” and “sabotaged”, I’d put in “tried to”…

  16. They no doubt want credit for falling gas prices too, though Obama was blamed when they were rising. Kinda thorny though; big oil is a major GOP backer….and the need for the XL pipeline is put in serious doubt.

        • I only read newspapers when dropping bombs on the toilet. Other than that, I watch CNN and listen to NPR for my political facts.

          • Umm
            I hate to let you know but truth is nowhere to be found on either of your listed sources.

            NPR has been in the tank for corporatists since they began funding them, and CNN, well how can ANYONE take them seriously for journalism while they still employ Nancy Grace?

            I trust RT and Al Jazeera far more than ANY US media source. US media “news” used to be a public service. Networks needed to provide news at a loss in order to make profits using our public airwaves with the other 23 hours of programming. After Reagan put the kibosh on this model, “news” divisions became entertainment operated for a profit.

            Every American “news” source is owned by some CIA affiliated corporation spoon feeding us propaganda while fooling us into condemning truth tellers as conspiracy theorists.

          • If people have to use cable news for their resources, they aren’t very well educated. The same goes for hate sites on the internet.

        • That was during the Bush whacker regime. You know, the doofas from texas who watched Top Gun and pretended to make a carrier landing while declaring the war was over.

  17. Well if it looks good you take credit for it I guess and if it looks bad you blame others for it. Sounds like all politicians to me!

  18. And rightly so Democrats ended the ability of the con men from being
    on UI benefits for 2 years. The exact same thing happened in Germany
    when they cut the dole as well

    • A careful look at Germany will disclose the fact that German manufacturing (and jobs for their labor force) is holding its own in a “global” economy, while keeping its highly Unionized workforce wages among the world’s highest (disposable income in workers’ pockets) How do they manage that while the USA has incentivized the offshoring of her magnificent manufacturing sector to China?

      • They have learned through centuries of turmoil……..and creative frugality.

        We are the fools of outsourcing which hasn’t changed under ‘wunderkind’ Obama…..

          • Well, since I am 1st generation German/French you idiot, I know how well the Germans can adapt to anything that the world throws at them. Not that being in the center of Europe had anything to do with it, did it. They have gotten it from all sides. Learned from some very bad mistakes. With all the problems they have had to get through, historically. Along with being very hard workers, they are extremely resilient and amazingly adept at business and being frugal. They have learned tons along the way. Unlike Americans. Naivety….the writing is on the wall…… We have learned nothing…..

            Kudos to all of Europe for finally waking up and taking the bull by the horn. I believe the trend will continue because they are not as naive and tolerant as we.

          • Is that your pedigree? German Shepard? Or your French pedigree? The Poodle?

            The German economy is the only one to survive your GWB Recession. Gee..you Republicans can’t seem to own a presidency that doesn’t have a second term recession. What? Your GOP bulls are spenders who flush money to the rich, corporations they claim are people until these “people” are guilty of not paying their fair share of taxes like the rest of us?

            Your GOP brought this country into the Great Recession by handing money to those who didn’t need it most. Your GOP bull tyrants insist that keeping ancient relic industries on our federal tax dole somehow increases jobs and job creation. Not even a jerky moron like you can dare to defy the fact that from 2004 to 2008, the US lost more jobs that were shipped overseas while the “people” in corporations enjoyed huge profits.

            Now when a guy like Harold Hamm, a big oil boy and the 35th richest man in the US, complains he can’t share half of his fortune with his wife in his divorce settlement because, his “oil interests have sunk in the past year,” a moron like you has no foundation upon which to build your castle of BS.

          • What is yours pitbull? Both the German Shepard and French are classy and smart. I see your delusional mind is hard at work again. Yes, and I am very proud of my heritage. The best of both worlds.

            How many times have we told you morons, Bush was a RHINO. The only thing I liked about Bush is the fact that he supported the military.

            ….and all your people know how to do is flush money to the Government. Just wait until Obama taxes investments….. LOL some of you will be screaming….
            He does not hold the purse strings any longer so we will see how that plays out. ‘Rob from the rich and give to the poor.’ The lazy poor.

            Here ya go:

            Reid is correct about the number of jobs gained over the course of the Clinton administration. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics,
            22.7 million jobs were added between January 1993 and January 2001. (See total nonfarm, seasonally adjusted — the standard measure of jobs.)

            But Reid’s numbers are wildly inaccurate for the Bush administration.BLS data show there was a net increase of nearly 1.1 million jobs — not
            a job loss — from January 2001 to January 2009.

            It’s true that roughly 8.75 million jobs were lost from January 2008 to February 2010. But about half of those losses occurred during Obama’s presidency. BLS data show that 4.4 million jobs were lost in Bush’s last year in office, and 4.3 million more jobs were lost during Obama’s first 13 months.

            In the past, some Republicans have blamed Obama for job losses that occurred under Bush, as we have written before. This time, it’s a Democrat falsely blaming Bush.”

            http://www.factcheck.org/2011/08/reid-wrong-on-bushs-economic-record/

            On Hamm, he’s really not all that political. Like many businessmen, he’s more vested in his business than anything else.

            NJ: Your company lobbies on the federal level very
            little. Continental has spent just $60,000 on federal lobbying since 1992, according to data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics. Why is that?

            Hamm: Wedo lobby very little. We’re not involved in everything. A lot of things don’t concern us, a whole lot. So we try to pay attention, keep our
            focus on the stuff that really does matter. I’m
            an “oil-o-crat,” instead of a Democrat or a Republican. I try to pay attention to really what concerns us in energy and about our business.”

            Get over it!

          • I’m not stupid enough to provide a blowhard like you with information on my ancestry. I know that no matter what my ancestry is based on, men like you are so grossly insecure that you always find a way to demean and degrade people of other nationalities because as we all know, your Germanic culture is Ach Tung! I am GREAT and your French is parle vous tres conceited.

            I intend to rob from the rich. Why? Because every time a single rich man gets one dime in federal tax subsidies, I am making HIM rich. I am taking back money that he doesn’t need and doesn’t deserve.

            Your attitude little boy fools no one. In reality, every American worker is getting a stick shoved up their butts by employers. Here’s how”
            First, they pay for work that is a legal and binding contract since slavery is illegal.

            But then, these scammers take that pay check right back. How? They play Company Store Owners.

            We buy what they sell and pay price gouged costs for merchandise they import from countries that pay employees $11 a month. You’ll never admit this is how they get rich. Will you?

            Then, these same “employers” get another 35% back when they force employees to pay for tax subsidies and fill in for the losses of corporate taxes these employers do not pay. So the rest of us do. Try again hot shot ..your wealth distribution today is in reverse and you are a liar of the worst sort. Every US poll except the liar boy polls you feast from have proven there is a huge drop in US salaries for middle and lower income people. You want to explain how that happened?

            NO? I will. Greedy men like you. Sucking off as much of employees paychecks as you can get your syrupy, liar mitts on.

            So we pay tax subsidies that take money out of OUR paychecks and hand that to those who pay for work as they are legally bound to.

            Try again joi boi..Your pissy little rant about wealth distribution has me wondering if you cheat your employees like your Daddy has always done.

          • LOL, Du bist ein dummes chienne. Guess you admired the Germans until you found out I was part. Kind of bigoted isn’t it?

            Not that I really care what your background is, Eleanore. I’m not impressed by you nor do I respect you. All I know about you is the fact that you are someone who hates men (You were either never married or divorced. Maybe you are even a Lesbian, no offense, I have gay friends and family members who I love dearly), you lived for your work (but felt like you got screwed by your bosses), you never had kids(?), you stated you were an environmental engineer (you weren’t, therefore; you over exaggerated that fact.), you reference an increase in taxes would screw the rich (yet you hold onto your ‘flush’ fund like a fiend). God forbid, you certainly don’t want anything to come between you and your money. What a hypocrite.

            Well, companies and Corporations nowadays are held for ransom by the Government. They pay the highest taxes and have the most stringent regulations. Gee, trickle down situation where the little man gets less because the Companies pay while the government plays with their money. Loser situation created by….drum roll please…..your man.

            Obama wants to increase the money for the 1%. 1) Many are Liberals 2)France tried this by waving a 75% tax on the rich. Well, the government found out it didn’t work and now they are repealing the sucker.

            Oh and by the way, seems you all believe that your favor is growing. I tend to see it flowing in a different direction. You believe that not enough of your people got out to vote in the last election. Why not? Was your side really that cock sure of themselves? When you snooze you lose. Another example is the movie ‘American Sniper.’ Hollywood decided to turn a blind eye to it. Chris Kyle was a true blue conservative American Hero. He loved his country. The movie was directed by another American icon, Clint Eastwood. Gee, I guess box office records for January aren’t anything to sneeze at. $105,000 million in its first weekend. Set all kinds of records. Subliminal rebellion….Oh, I think so…..and what about that Harry Reidtard. Lowest approval rating in Nevada. According to my sibling in Nevada, they can’t wait to retire the SOB and replace him with Governor Brian Sandoval, a Conservative.

            Kind of like you side is on the down swing…don’t ya think? Not sure who will win in 2016. I’m not making any predictions, yet. Electoral college is not the popular vote like in the last election. If it had been the popular vote, Obama would never have gotten in.

          • He once purported to be an expert on communism because his parents escaped communism. Given the age, you know who was running from the Russians when Germany was defeated – the nazis. So, a nazi becomes and expert on Democracy?

        • It appears to the casual observer, that you abhor the corruption and graft as much as the next guy, but hang your hat on Conservative Ideology, that you believe supports “freedom loving patriots,” but that I believe supports a sell-out to, if not a Plutocracy, then certainly an Oligarchy.

          Albert Einstein on the evil of oligarchical capitalism:

          “Private capital tends to become concentrated in few hands, partly because of competition among the capitalists, and partly because technological development and the increasing division of labor encourage the formation of larger units of production at the expense of smaller ones. The
          result of these developments is an oligarchy of private capital the enormous power of which cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society. This is true since the members of legislative bodies are selected by political parties, largely financed or otherwise influenced by private capitalists who, for all practical purposes, separate the electorate from the legislature. The consequence is that the representatives of the people do not in fact sufficiently protect the interests of the underprivileged sections of the population.

          Moreover, under existing conditions, private
          capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information (press, radio, education). It is thus extremely difficult, and
          indeed in most cases quite impossible, for the individual citizen to come to objective conclusions and to make intelligent use of his political rights.

          Production is carried on for profit, not for use. There is no provision that all those able and willing to work will always be in a position to find employment; an “army of unemployed” almost always exists. The
          worker is constantly in fear of losing his job. Since unemployed and poorly paid workers do not provide a profitable market, the production of consumers’
          goods is restricted, and great hardship is the consequence. Technological progress frequently results in more unemployment rather than in an easing of the burden of work for all. The profit motive, in conjunction with competition among capitalists, is responsible for an instability in the accumulation and utilization of capital which leads to increasingly severe depressions.

          Unlimited competition leads to a huge waste of labor, and to that crippling of the social consciousness of individuals which I mentioned before.

          This crippling of individuals I consider the worst evil of capitalism. Our whole educational system suffers from this evil. An exaggerated competitive attitude is inculcated into the student, who is trained to worship acquisitive success as a preparation for his future career.”

          Albert Einstein, 1949.

          James Madison, a founding father and one of the authors of the US Constitution warned against this in his writings, also… http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch15s50.html

          • He was a theoretical physicist and philosopher of science, and he must have been a wise man, given his intellect. Certainly he possessed enough intuition to be able to cut through the illusion of ideological dogma and isolate the axioms of how the cogs and gears of economics work absent the checks and balances in a power and wealth dynamic.

  19. The Republicans have obviously done everything responsible for the lower classes to lift their faces and get a little of that salty trickle down during the past 40 years. Any Democrat who is unwilling to acknowledge the Republican thrust and splooge on the middle and lower classes is simply unaware of what is heading for his or her poop chute.

  20. Golly Gee Wilikers…. He’s done such a bang up job and to think that Obama is taking ALL the credit. WOW!

    “The unemployment rate is now at 5.6 percent (part time jobs. Hmmmm heard no new businesses are being developed), the lowest since 2008. Foreclosures are down to pre-recession levels (Another bubble?). The stock market is in historically high territory.”(Falsely kept at this level, Can’t be held up forever, interest rates are supposed to start creeping back up…..)

    Fed Abandons Stock Markets In 2015, Watch Out:

    -The powerful rallies of 2013 and 2014 were driven by extreme
    Fed money printing to buy up bonds, and the Fed’s associated implied
    backstop for the stock markets.

    -But with QE3’s new buying terminated and any QE4 a political
    impossibility with the new Republican Congress, 2015 is going to look
    vastly different without QE.

    -With the Fed’s balance sheet and zeroed interest rates
    finally starting to normalize in 2015, the lofty and overvalued
    Fed-levitated stock markets are in for some tough sledding.

    The seemingly-invincible US stock markets powered higher again last
    year, still directly fueled by the Fed’s epic quantitative-easing money
    printing. But 2015 is shaping up to be radically different from the past
    couple years. The Fed effectively abandoned the stock markets when it
    terminated its bond buying late last year. So this year we will finally
    see if these lofty stock markets can remain afloat without the Fed.

    Mainstreamstock investors and speculators are certainly loving life these days. The flagship S&P 500 stock index enjoyed an excellent 2014, climbing11.4%. And that followed 2013’s massive and amazing 29.6% blast higher! The last couple years were truly extraordinary and record-breaking on many fronts, with the US stock markets essentially doing nothing but rally to an endless streak of new nominal record highs.

    Such anomalously-one-sided stock markets naturally bred the extreme euphoriauniversally evident today. Greedy traders have totally forgotten the endlessly-cyclical natureof stock-market history, where bear markets always follow bulls. They’ve convinced themselves that these stock markets can keep on magically levitating indefinitely, that major selloffs of any magnitude are no longer a threat worth considering.”

    With the Federal flagship gone, let’s just see how far the Stock market can carry itself:)

    “Perhaps the greatest driver of consumers’ new optimism is the free-fall
    in gas prices, which haven’t been this low since the Great Recession
    drove down demand worldwide. Obama didn’t spur the investment in
    domestic oil drilling, but he has encouraged it, noting that it would
    help to free us from a dependence on foreign oil.”

    Really! What a crock of crapola. He’s taking credit for this when he and the EPA (Evil Protection Agency) and ‘Climate Change’ Nazi’s have been doing everything in their power to hold back any form of oil production whatsoever. Now he wants to enact a 75% gas tax and new regulations for refining oil and gas. A new form of punishment for the American people and oil companies. And just when Oil companies and private owners finally found a way around the crapper. Now we all get to pay the price. Same old, same old Obama. Can’t wait til 2016.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/14/us/politics/obama-administration-to-unveil-plans-to-cut-methane-emissions.html?_r=0

    • These double digit returns were also largely made possible by the investment shift from USA owned, operated, and employed corporations, to the offshoring, “multinational” variety where the use of sweatshop labor is in vogue, along with the tariff free dumping of this cheap crap back into our markets, then parking the gigantic profits in offshore tax havens (not to mention the “inversion” tactics to escape any tax responsibility to the USA at all). It’s impolite to discuss this type of economic treason in the presence of genteel, right wing company because of the lucrative trend this treason promises to stockholders. Sucks for US, unless you make most of your money through capital gains…

  21. Obama’s record of failures:

    He failed in Libya, failed in Egypt, failed in Yemen, failed in Sudan, failed in Crimea, failed in Ukraine, failed in Syria, failed in Iraq, and failed in Palestine. Most of all he is making us less secure on the border with millions of criminals, illegals, and terrorists entering the USA….Not to mention, healthcare, the economy, employment, Fast and Furious, IRS, NSA.. Benghazi, Solyndra…Too Big To Fail bailouts, Shovel Ready Jobs…etc etc…. Obama, an anti American, incompetent leader and Failed President!

    • The Bashy Boys are at it again. Losers who have NO future, NO jobs and NO real lives…except to sit around and bitch about Obama. Sorry little boys…You were OUTvoted…get over it. And do get your little lazy butts in gear because come hell or high water the next president is going to be one without testicles. Not that you little boys of the Bashy Boy Brigade have any either.

      • By Joel Tang Junior on October 1, 2007

        Format: Perfect Paperback

        For years I have tried to discuss rationally with liberals/socialists. The only result I could get was to doubt my arguments, no matter how solid they were, because reason didn’t seem powerful enough to move them. I could see that the liberal agenda was economically unsound and even against the basic facts of human nature. Just when I was giving up any possibility of ever understanding the liberal mind and its irrational assaults on reason and human nature, I came across Dr. Rossiter’s book.

        For the first time I could confirm a long held impression that liberals have some problem in their way of thinking. The Liberal Mind convincingly states that what appears to be just normal people worried about real social and political problems is in fact a neurosis which manifests itself in trying to manipulate those who just want to live their lives autonomously and cooperatively by attacking their freedom. Dr. Rossiter gives a complete description of signs, symptoms and causes of this neurosis. And a didactical one, for he emphasizes and repeats key concepts all through the book, so that when introducing new concepts the fundamentals are never out of sight.

        Anyone who still understands man as an autonomous and cooperative being must read this book. The Liberal Mind is a wonderful guide through the sophisms the liberal neurosis creates in the mind of those affected by it, even if the liberal agenda has already dominated the mentality of almost a whole country.

        • Joe T…I’ve read your posts. You are a fool. You do NOT discuss anything with liberals. You call them names because you hate what liberalism stands for: FREEDOM.

          A man like you is so deeply damaged psychologically that you cannot openly discuss issues that run contrary to your own without attempting a subtle form of indoctrination to your misguided ideology.

          I cannot imagine what your parents ever did to you to create such a maniacal ideologue who would dare to ram your ideology down everyone else’s throats.

          Unfortunately for you, that is not now nor ever will be possible. Humans are born with the free will to choose. That’s really what you right wing narrow minds hate most about liberals, progressives, populists and socialists…that they WILL NEVER hand your their freedom to choose.

          Tyrants like you and Joe the Schmo make fools of yourselves with each of your posts. Both of you post things that reek of tyrannical mentalities.

          This country was based on FREEDOM from tyrants like King George V who tried to tax colonials to death. They rebelled. Just as I and many others who refuse to march to your and the Schmo’s tune are doing today.

          It must cause you a case of terminal constipation to realize nothing you say or do will FORCE us to obey you.

          • The trolls’ sole purpose is to try to make our heads explode. They’ll say anything to try to make us nuts. Why is it that every “fact” they present only scratches the surface of what’s really happening? Could it be that they haven’t taken the time to investigate carefully the things they spout about from their pie holes? Or could it be that they’re just so sure of their intellectual superiority (again with no evidence to back that up) that they think that whatever they say must be the absolute truth?

          • “Yeah, liberals hate bullying all right, but they’re not opposed to using it when they casually throw out words like ‘bigot’ and ‘racist.’ It does cow people into avoiding this debate. And if you’re doing that, you don’t get to wear the ‘Je suis Charlie’ button. The button you should wear is ‘Je suis part of the problem.’ And that goes for everybody.”

            The devout liberal continued to criticize those who attempt to shut down people who don’t agree with them.

            “This may surprise you, but I am not a big fan of Rush Limbaugh. However, if you’re one of the people with a website devoted to making him go away, you are part of the problem. And ironically, you’re not even a proper liberal because you don’t get free speech. You’re just a baby who can’t stand to live in a world where you hear things that upset you. Oh, you’re not alone.”

            Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/bill-maher-liberals-bully-part-problem/#EfEpWItacWzDkmFB.99

          • How many times since I have been on this site have I made you eat words….. Quite a few. All is quiet then. All is quiet.

            I always research, I honestly think it is the other way around. I rarely see facts and stats to back up what you all have stated. I suppose what you read goes in one ear, through an empty brain and out the other side. Just who thinks they’re superior? Certainly not, mawah. We are just standing up for ourselves and what we believe in by debunking the lies your media spews.

            There is no team in ‘I.’

          • I was a loyal Republican for 33 years until George W. Bush came along with his swaggering and bloated ego. The right wing is immaterial to the need for any country to advance. They like one direction only: Back…never forward. So, inevitably, we stick it to them with facts they know we can prove in a court of law. Then, like little boys always do, they get a shot of adrenalin in what little remains of their putrefied brains and start trying to prove negatives. And we all know that won’t ever work. I got fed up with the male dominance in the GOP and their constantly insisting they can be the only ones who know everything about everything. More male ego than that I prefer to do without.

          • Alternatively he could be trolling this way to make conservatives look bad ala Stephen Colbert.
            🙂

          • Fedup
            I missed the news conference. Please share the revealing info you learned. As far as Obama, he scares the hell out of me. I may be off the mark here but when he was encouraging Sony to show “The Interview”, to me it felt like he was hoping the threats to the movie theaters would be carried out. He will never admit to ANY attack by a “lone wolf” to be anything other than just some random person that killed because they saw it on TV or some other BS. Ft Hood is the best example. To him, there is no such thing as a radical islamic extremist. Remember, Islam is a peaceful religion. You will never hear him quote the number of people killed by the islamic extremists because he is trying to push his BS on the people who are too stupid to figure out what he is. He purposely di d not go to the rally in Paris and we all know it! He cannot show support when he does not stand with them. I read an excellent article about the Keystone XL and the Canadian’s side of the issue. Obama has been stringing them along and the Canadian PM does NOT like or respect Obama at all. Relations with them are strained big time. The only reason that they are talking about sending the oil to China is because of the holdup on the pipeline. If the pipeline veto is overturned by Congress, the oil stays in the US but if Congress cannot overturn the veto, Canada will build a pipeline to the west coast and ship it to China. What’s good for the US you can be guaranteed will be shot down by Obama and he’ll have a smile on his face when he vetoes it. He makes me sick!

          • By Bill Maher
            “Yeah, liberals hate bullying all right, but they’re not opposed to using it when they casually throw out words like ‘bigot’ and ‘racist.’ It does cow people into avoiding this debate. And if you’re doing that, you don’t get to wear the ‘Je suis Charlie’ button. The button you should wear is ‘Je suis part of the problem.’ And that goes for everybody.”

            The devout liberal continued to criticize those who attempt to shut down people who don’t agree with them.

            “This may surprise you, but I am not a big fan of Rush Limbaugh. However, if you’re one of the people with a website devoted to making him go away, you are part of the problem. And ironically, you’re not even a proper liberal because you don’t get free speech. You’re just a baby who can’t stand to live in a world where you hear things that upset you. Oh, you’re not alone.”

            Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/bill-maher-liberals-bully-part-problem/#EfEpWItacWzDkmFB.99

        • You don’t actually “discuss” anything.
          Re-read your posts. You treat the comments section like a Billboard. You post loud semi-incoherent rants based on easily disprovable information, then when people ask you questions or rebut your points, you avoid responding directly and just post another Billboard-style rant.
          That is not debate, or conversation, or discussion.
          It’s the paranoid defense of a failing belief system by avoidance and volume.
          The reason you personally cannot communicate with Liberals is because yelling at people and ignoring what they say until they agree with you, is not communication.
          And when they don’t agree with you, posting dubious links on how impossible it is to communicate with Liberals is just sad, and in poor taste. Then again, demonising the opposition is currently the conservative way.

          Ironically you can see that even Republican Senators who experience something they purportedly hate and rail against as the “death of Amurrica”, directly, often become “liberal” on that issue. i.e. Gay marriage… then suddenly discovering their son is gay. etc.
          Where does that leave you on the topic of Liberal brains being broken?
          What I think it means for the Republican brain is this: It’s great legislating for your own puritanical self-benefiting beliefs that destroy the lives, sanity, healthcare, survival of others, as long as the consequences are kept a long way away from you personally.

          • With all due respect….the truth will prevail above all
            Nothing to discuss, I post bona fide info reported on the net, the wire and cable news world wide without any spin and without prevarications . Facts are facts about Pres Obama his prevarications and blatant duplicity to the citizens of the USA. Verified 24/7 by Pres Obama’s own words and actions.
            U can Google it….Veritas!
            best regards, Joe T

          • What is it about you people? You all think you are so superior.

            Honestly, there have been tons of time when I have asked questions and all is dead on the other end. Most of you do not produce facts, but that is not my problem. Mundane imprecations don’t say anything and only make you look ignorant.

            “That is not debate, or conversation, or discussion.
            It’s the paranoid defense of a failing belief system by avoidance and volume.”

            Of late, since when can we reason with you Liberals. If we agree with you, we would be blowing in the same horn and that is what you want. We certainly don’t want to agree. It would be defeating the purpose of being here in the first place. You are not tolerant of Conservatives mainly because of your leader, if you could call him that. He is a campaigner and he has never left that mode since he has been in office. His only defense is to attack and, like the good sheeple that you are, you follow suit.

            As for the second part of your statement…..Hmmmm, oddly, in the last election, the Liberals lost, but you blame that on not enough of your people getting out to vote. In reality, I think being too cock sure of yourself always comes back to bite you in the arse. Another subliminal example is the movie ‘American Sniper’ which I’m sure you loathe. Yes, a story about a good ole conservative boy, a true American with his heart in the right place. An American Hero. Directed by another very Conservative director/actor, Clint Eastwood. It made a January record in movie sales. In fact, it blew all the rest of the films out of the water. 100 million in the first weekend. LOL So don’t tell me Conservatism is a dying belief system. The more you push against, the more we on the Right win.

            also, how can anyone reason with this statement:

            “What
            I think it means for the Republican brain is this: It’s great
            legislating for your own puritanical self-benefiting beliefs that
            destroy the lives, sanity, healthcare, survival of others, as long as
            the consequences are kept a long way away from you personally.”

            So just get over yourself. We are not here to make you see the light. We are mainly here to stand up for ourselves after decades of being bullied and told what to do by the Left and their media:)

    • Yep. All those missiles taking out all those AQ leaders. Yep. Nothign but failure. By the way Joe T – What was President Dubya’s excuse for the 60+ lives lost in the dozens of embassy and consulate bombings on his watch?

      • Obama didn’t want to secure the U.S.Embassies cause he thought the terrorists were ALL dead or any left had gone back in their caves…..and when U.S. Embassies were attacked with medium rockets and heavy weapons he didn’t want to send in a rescue team for fear it would upset and enrage the terrorists even more and furthermore Obama categorically knew and knows it’s definitely not RADICAL MUSLIMS WHO ARE FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS OF THE KORAN. NO it’s a bunch of people imitating RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORISTS.,,,,who would have guessed it!

        • Two key signs of an mentally disturbed troll:
          1) Won’t actually answer the question they are asked.
          2) Spends long sections talking all in CAPS.

          • Let the liberals keep thinking their delusional thoughts, it only hastens the demise of the liberal agenda and brings more of their base – the ones who are finally seeing the truth behind their rhetoric to the ranks of Conservatives voters. People are waking up to the fact that liberal “solutions” do more harm than good to our nation, our people and our economy so their solutions are based on lies, fabrications and their Gruber mentality that the American electorate is stupid, makes poor choices and only they can lead us to the promised land. A promised land where the US becomes a 3rd rate 3rd world 2 bit country of misery, no hope, no change and divided.

            February 17, 2008, reprint – Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

            As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery

            The Liberal Mind is the first in-depth examination of the major political madness of our time: The radical left’s efforts to regulate the people from cradle to grave. To rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda’s madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by villains. [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

      • There was the nearly 4000 that lost their lives on the worse attack on out soil also. Many warnings that were totally ignored.

      • MUSLIMS BELIEVE THIS OR THEY ARE NOT A MUSLIM……THERE IS NO OTHER CHOICE!

        IF THEY (muslins) believe the Qur’an/Koran……and you do NOT……you should be killed or dead as for as they are concerned. 4.89 : They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.3.85: And whoever desires a religion other than Islam, it shall not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers…..from the Qur’an!

        KEEP BELIEVING THEY ARE PEACEFUL…..8.12: When your Lord revealed to the angels:

        I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off (behead) their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.

        The Qur’an was an oral text throughout the lifetime of Muhammad; it was also a fluid text. The complete text resided only in the memories of Muhammad and his followers. As he added verses and reorganized the text, his followers would rememorize the text in the light of the additions or edits. This means that the Qur’an was a living text during the lifetime of Muhammad. Certain verses revealed to Muhammad were later repudiated by him as “satanic” verses revealed not by Gabriel but by Satan. These verses were expunged from the text that so many had memorized.

        It’s plain to see Barack Hussein Obama has loyalties to this ideology that he can’t hide. It’s self-evident for many reasons; one of which is that he clearly avoids (refuses) to call the terrorists by their identity of followers of Islamic teachings, proven by the Qur’an (Koran) to be VIOLENT. For Manchurian* Candidate substitute the word Muslim.* This is occurring world wide at a rapid rate, due to verbiage changes by current covert leaders.

    • Time_4A_Change > zanne stevens
      • 16 hours ago

      “Obama Celebrates Martin Luther King Day With Image Of
      Barack Obama”

      “Today, we pay tribute to Dr.
      Martin Luther King Jr.” —President Obama

      Taking a picture of a racist piece of sh*t next to the
      statue of MLK is NOT paying tribute to him, Obozo.

  22. When you read posts by the Schmomo and Joe T…you have to wonder how much they are paid as trolls. Gee…who’d have thought you could make a career of bashing anyone you don’t like as a troll careerist?

    These 2 are the perfect example of “Do Nothings” whose only claim to fame is trying to pretend they are political experts. Most armchair politicians think that way too.

    • LOL, paid trolls. Get off your politically correct dirt clod. No, unlike you Leftists, we are freedom loving American patriots who fear for our country. Ohhhhh, I said those dreaded words ‘freedom loving patriot.’

      Apparently, Eleanora, you don’t seem to realize that we are doing just what you people have done for decades. Fight back and stand up to our bullies on the Left. You people are just not used to it because we usually put up and shut up. Not anymore….

      As far as ‘do nothings,’ I have already stated, I am retired. Studying Politics is sort of a hobby for me. I enjoy trying to dispel the lies and twisted misconceptions your side breeds. As far as intelligence, you have proven that to us many times. Your crass remarks tell me a bit about your primitive upbringing.

      • I retired from 24+ years in environmental engineering and I am a freelance writer. Do tell us paid troll ..what your excuse is for sitting on your duff day after day playing Bashy Boy.

        I haven’t blogged for decades and neither have you. Blogs are not decades old. You can’t even come up with accuracy in your posts and you want others to believe a mentally handicapped brain like yours can be trusted to tell the truth?

        • Eleanora you are lying. In previous posts, you stated that you worked as a clerk. Now you say you were an environmental engineer? You also stated how much you hated the higher ups and how you got screwed in you job. So what’s the truth? Were you really an author or is that something you made up. I’m sure it was a #1 bestseller… LOL If my mind was so handicapped, I would not have remembered what you stated:)

          How have I not been accurate? Unlike you, most often I post material relevant to the article. I don’t think I have ever read any material from you that was quoted from any other source other than your own. All you do is bash Republicans, threaten conservatives, bash the red states, yada, yada, yada. Same old broken record. How educated are you? Your writing implies a very primitive style.

          As far as technically savvy….. My master’s is in the technical field so…….. I know a hell of a lot about how the system works.

          • Show me that post. I was an accounting/office manager and tech writer in environmental engineering which I’ve posted a dozen times.

            You are a real dipshit aren’t you? YOu can’t even read. I have no reason to lie about who I am. I’m a published author asshat and a copywriter. And if you had any brains in that double wide butt sized brain of yours, you’d know that public people like authors can’t afford to lie.

            You have a masters alright…IN BS. Sorry but that career is more than evident. The liar here is you. First you posted you were handicapped and can’t work..now you are in a tech field?

            Okay let’s see just how tech you are. I can write white papers on biofiltration including all of the bibliographies and the effects on reducing air pollution. Can you? You bet you can’t you pathetic mental cripple.

          • You just stated you were an environmental engineer. You are not. I was correct.

            The way you write Eleanore, I have my druthers. Your lack of eloquence in your writing style indicates a person who has no class.
            We all have our skill sets. I doubt that you have as much software in your head as I do. Especially technical software which is constantly changing and needs to be kept up on.

            Widely used in drinking water and the wine industry, Ozone is very well known as a purification system for water and in sterilization procedures for the wine industry. It is also used for the purpose of treating other things such as diseases. As is Hydrogen peroxide. As you probably know, much of the research was conducted by the Germans. It is well noted that Ozone (I do know what ozone is: Oxygenation/electricity combined O3) and Prolotherapy can heal inflammation and kill bacteria. So the idea of using it in water instead of chemicals that are destructive to the immune system such as flouride and other toxic byproducts is a good thing.

          • Look Schmomo, your maniacal insistence you are always right might work with that handmaiden you married. I owe you no such obedience to your self-contrived BS world of Joey Authority.

            I never said I was an “environmental engineer.” I have always posted that I worked a PhD from MIT and a Cambridge educated MSME…as a tech writer and accounting manager. But the hideous under educated moron like you can’t read or comprehend what you read. That’s deliberate. All right wing asshats with a mania to control the rest of the world try to reinvent our posts. Doesn’t work Joey Baby, not with me…Sorry.

            Reread my post. I worked in environmental Engineering. A genius like you would know that environmental engineering (our company was one of the 4 oldest in the US) hires various types of employees: mechanical engineers, chemical engineers, tech writers, estimators, field service crews for installations and repairs and accountants.

            Can you ever grow the hell up? You are not going to be the President of the US. You’re a morbid failure and you can’t admit it.

            I, on the other hand, have written tech papers on environmental subjects like arsenic in NC water, (gee a polluted red state, how unique, NOT) Green sand marl, counter-current industrial scrubbers and dust collectors, biofilters and bio-trickling filters that clean up the BS pollution you asshat red staters dump into air, water and soil.

            Sorry if you are a flea bag with no experience. I was fortunate to work with some of the very best people since 1980. A female ombudswoman to the SBA, as an employee of Senator Lautenberg’s ADP and also as an assistant VP of marketing and sales in one Fortune 50 company and a smaller company.

            You are just an envious little twit who can’t pee without Mommy’s help.

            Me, on the other hand, retired from a 34 year career in private business, prior to that owning 2 businesses and retiring as an SEO Copywriter of online articles 3900+ and a published novelist.

            Do let me know when you can match my skills, experience and most of all, BRAINS. Since yours have been mostly dead for years.

          • I’m so glad I don’t have to be a bragger. It really shows how insecure you are:)

            By the way, you did say you were an environmental engineer. You did tell a bit of a fib just to make yourself look supreme. No one is that great, Eleanora, except for God…..

          • See my post below moron. LOL, I know, I know you hate Conservatives no matter how strong they are. You hate that we contradict you. Too bad.

            LOL, Du bist ein dummes chienne. Guess you admired the Germans until you found out I was part. Kind of bigoted isn’t it?

            Not that I really care what your background is, Eleanore. I’m not impressed by you nor do I respect you. All I know about you is the fact that you are someone who hates men (You were either never married or divorced. Maybe you are even a Lesbian, no offense, I have gay friends and family members who I love dearly), you lived for your work (but felt like you got screwed by your bosses), you never had kids(?), you stated you were an environmental engineer (you weren’t, therefore; you over exaggerated that fact.), you reference an increase in taxes would screw the rich (yet you hold onto your ‘flush’ fund like a fiend). God forbid, you certainly don’t want anything to come between you and your money. What a hypocrite.

            Well, companies and Corporations nowadays are held for ransom by the Government. They pay the highest taxes and have the most stringent regulations. Gee, trickle down situation where the little man gets less because the Companies pay while the government plays with their money. Loser situation created by….drum roll please…..your man.

            Obama wants to increase the money for the 1%. 1) Many are Liberals 2)France tried this by waving a 75% tax on the rich. Well, the government found out it didn’t work and now they are repealing the sucker.

            Oh and by the way, seems you all believe that your favor is growing. I tend to see it flowing in a different direction. You believe that not enough of your people got out to vote in the last election. Why not? Was your side really that cock sure of themselves? When you snooze you lose. Another example is the movie ‘American Sniper.’ Hollywood decided to turn a blind eye to it. Chris Kyle was a true blue conservative American Hero. He loved his country. The movie was directed by another American icon, Clint Eastwood. Gee, I guess box office records for January aren’t anything to sneeze at. $105,000 million in its first weekend. Set all kinds of records. Subliminal rebellion….Oh, I think so…..and what about that Harry Reidtard. Lowest approval rating in Nevada. According to my sibling in Nevada, they can’t wait to retire the SOB and replace him with Governor Brian Sandoval, a Conservative.

            Kind of like you side is on the down swing…don’t ya think? Not sure who will win in 2016. I’m not making any predictions, yet. Electoral college is not the popular vote like in the last election. If it had been the popular vote, Obama would never have gotten in.

          • sorry schmuck don’t hate anyone – I do feel sorry for the ignorant -YOU-
            lol clint eastwood I thought you conservatives hated Hollywood types- oh that’s right you found a Hollywood wing nut who talks to empty chairs- he your hero or the conservative rock star ted nugent the child molestor.

          • LOL, Hey Moron, I know all too well about Hollywood because my field is in the film industry. Tinsel towns demographics are changing. The more the world turns to transmedia and hand held devices for information, going to the theater to watch a film will soon be nonexistent. I predicted this years ago. This will leave room for ANYONE, not just the L.A. elites to produce and direct a creative film. I say kudos to that because the Leftists in Hollywood have held the reins for far too long, they know it’s coming and that pisses them off, but then again they can’t wait to get their hands on the money made from a film that isn’t politically correct.

            People are going for movies like American Sniper (100 million in it’s first weekend. Blew up a few records) not because Hollywood was for it. Quite the contrary, Americans are going to this film because it is a thorn in the Liberals side. I might add that it was funded by a well known studio so I can honestly say greed is at the helm. They want their money and don’t really give a crap if it was directed by a Republican. They want what sells and it seems the people in this country have an appetite for American Heros:) Goes to show you how unpopular your ideology really is.

          • We have something in common. I was a tech writer, also. Technical writing teaches us “facts only” and no editorializing. I think that is why we are logical and see things as they are, not as we wish them.

          • That’s so true Ida. Thank you for reminding me. I recall having to spend days, at times, researching information. The rule in environmental engineering tech writing was to find 3 sources that support the same facts. For example, if I was asked to write a white paper on arsenic in NC’s water, I would go to the NC environmental agency’s compliance regs and cross check them with those of the EPA. Then, for a third source, I’d read through dozens of scientific findings from credible sources I could name in bibliographies.

            This is why so many of maniacs of the right wing are lunatic fringe. They possess no ability to hear or see what others are trying to communicate. Mania, as we all understand that word, is to be so single minded about issues that no freedom of thought is ever allowed to change the maniacal mind.

          • I remember everything had to be researched and proven. Mine was easier than yours. I wrote technical manuals. We would make a good expose team, would we not? Shades of Ida Tarbell.

          • I wrote some operations and maintenance manuals for the air pollution control equipment our mechanical designers created and developed from engineering technology.

            I agree..I love exposing liars, cheats and generally being an annoying whistleblower. If the country had more like us, much of the scams that are pulled, wouldn’t be.

            Here’s one you’ll love to do some “research on”…the 4 Sons of Fred Koch. If I thought the American Dynasty (The Bush family) was a real eye opener, ole Fred Koch and his 4 sons are more so.

          • if you so smart why do you not believe in the science of global warming caused by the depletion of the ozone layer schmuck

          • Nope, sorry. I believe in global cycles.

            What was it again…..Global Warming or Climate Change? Seems you can’t get it straight. What ever happened to Al Gore? Seems he played you all for fools. Took the money and ran.

            Here’s one for you. The Germans, who tend to be very exact in their research, worked on a project, in which other countries like Norway and Russia participated. NASA also contributed.

            Crista-spas –

            A summarization of their findings: The Ozone Layer is an ever changing patchwork as it transgresses all over the planet and follows warming and cooling trends. There are times when the layer develops holes specifically at the poles. These holes can be attributed to many things including solar fluctuations, temperature variations, volcanic influences, winds.

            “The primary role of dynamical processes in determining the thickness of the ozone layer has also been established in other extensive
            field work. On Dec. 1,Geophysical Research Letters, a journal of the American Geophysical Union, published a scientific paper by scientists from Norwegian and Russian institutes demonstrating that the thickness of the ozone layer over Russia is determined BY METEOROLOGY, NOT CHEMISTRY(2)The scientists, Kjell Henriksen from the University of Tromso in Norway and Valentin Roldugin from the Polar Geophysical Institute in Russia, analyzed one year of daily samples from six Soviet Middle Asian ozone measuring stations at
            two different altitudes.

            They discovered that changes in the ozone layer were directly caused by the horizontal and vertical movement of air masses (that is, wind dynamics). A close analysis of the data also demonstrated that
            chemistry played no role in the thickness of the ozone layer over these stations.

            http://www.mitosyfraudes.org/Ingles/Crista.html

            Crista-spas is newer research than the Montreal Project that was funded in 1989.

            Sounds pretty logical to me. So there you have it:)

      • LOLs
        Why do these ‘freedom loving patriots’ want to destroy the very government created by their most precious Constitution?

          • LOL allright,
            Exactly how could the Constitution of the United States EVER resemble your “Marxist cesspool”?
            Fact is, the founding fathers were hardly the Ayn Randian heroes TPers love to project. They scrapped the Articles of Confederation, the “limited government” Libertarians love to tout.
            This weak limited government faced the Whiskey Rebellion, Shay’s and was going quickly to failure that every other nation of the time predicted.
            Washington and Madison decided to scuttle it altogether and write a strong federal government into a Constitution.

            Conservative history “lessons” carefully rewrite a myth about freemarkets and capitalism along with guns and freedom that modern conservatives spew with pride.

    • Since he is not a true American who believes in government of the people, by the people, and for the people, I don’t bother to read his posts. He never writes anything I want t ponder.

      • What! Shouldn’t your version go as follows: of the government, for the government, by the government. Hmmmm….Communism? I believe you do read the posts yet don’t respond because you wimp away from any debate with us by standing your narrow-minded ground.

        You are not true Americans…..Let me ask you a few questions and I guarantee you will not answer. Are you patriotic? How are you patriotic? Do you believe in the American flag? Do you believe in YOUR country? Do you believe in love your neighbor? Do you believe and stand behind the military and our veterans? Do you believe in the American dream?

        If you have answered no to any of those questions, than I would begin to ask myself, what am I.

        • Seriously, you RARELY state any facts. The only reason some of you are now doing this is because we have told you so…..and you are following our lead.

          • Of course, I am a liar and use skewed facts. I’m a Republican. Now, if I can become hateful enough, I can join the t party. Darn my parents for teaching me to respect people. That is what is keeping me out of the t-party.

  23. As usual, Ms. Tucker has all the facts contorted. Unemployement is still at 11.2% (U6 number), the same as 2009. When GW’s unemployement number rose to just under 5%, the lame stream media called his actions a failure. The jobs created are part-time, lower paying jobs that have gone to the illegals who have entered the country. The stock market is based on consumer confidence, and that started to improve as the polls showed that the Republicans would sweep into power in the mid-terms. And this was just after Obama won the second term. The number of folks without health coverage remains the same as before the ACA was passed, only now, it’s the middle class workers who don’t have coverage or are forced to pay more for the same coverage. Real income has dropped for many in the lower income jobs as their hours were cut so their employer would not have to pay for their health insurance. So the lower class (the folks the Democrats claim to be fighting for) have to work two jobs to make up for the lost income and have to pay their own insurance now. The Democrats lost a record number of seats in the last election and Ms. Tucker is trying to tell us Obama’s 6 years are a success? The recovery (if you want to call it that) is the worst in ecomomic measures and taken longer than any recovery in history! Record number on food stamps and 92 million unemployed – with recovery number that poor and Ms. Tucker is claiming “happy days are hear again”. No wonder the Detroit Free Press fired her butt a few years back.

    • You’re delusional. Quit smoking dope it is making your brain spongy.
      92 million unemployed? why not say 320 million unemployed if that makes you happy. No one believes one word you have written so if I were you I would stop because it makes you look stupid.

      • You know, you all lean more to the pot smoking on this one. I guess you wouldn’t believe how BAD the Left is really doing and what Obummer has done to this country either unless it truly hits home.

      • ALL my numbert are correct and were mentioned in one or more editorials (by editors, not letters to the editor) in several non-liberal newspapers. just this past Sunday. I trust these sources way more than the propaganda the president puts out. Perhaps you should try looking at other information sources so you are not a puppet for the lying president. You are part of the low information voters the president counts on. Talk about looking stupid, you sure proved that your are the stupid one on this subject. How many other subjects are you again the stupid one?

    • Even if the unemployment rate is as bad as Forbes has calculated it to be (12.6%), the current number of unemployed (which includes those who have lost their jobs and are working one or multiple low paying, part-time jobs to pay bills) would be around 40 million, tops.
      Thanks to Free Trade Agreements with China (Avg. wage= $1.36/hr., children, not deemed fit for academia, are relegated to working for 30 cents/hr. slumped over a buffing wheel with an eye loop burnishing burrs off of #2 screws they ship across Shanghai to an iPod factory), Taiwan, India, and other Pacific Rim nations that exploit their human resources (aka: sweatshops) in exchange for advanced nations’ industrial sector jobs, manufacturing methods, technology, and trade secrets, the chickens have come home to roost.

      • My source is from several non-liberal newspapers while your source is Obama’s propaganda team. The real number of unemployed IS 92 million. Obama’s team switched numbers to try an head off his 2010 election loses, but it didn’t fool those who ignored his lies. Try other sources than his, and you see how Obama has lied to the people!

        • Did these numbers include a growing number of Baby Boomers heading into retirement? How about the kids lining up to wait tables that used to be employed in the summer construction or landscaping trades, retail jobs, and factory jobs that hired cheap temps (all gone to China)?

          Was your source Rush Limbaugh, Washington Post, Fox News, or some other bastion of unbiased news? Provide your source.
          it is admittedly difficult to wade through the gobblety-goop of a .gov website and get to the bottom line…

          BTW, Forbes is considered a Conservative magazine.

          http://www.conservapedia.com/Conservative_media

          • That’s why I selected it!
            BTW, sorry about the post above. I was in a hurry to shove off for work this morning and didn’t have time to proof read that post…

        • After some extensive reading of several “news” accounts with left leaning and right leaning biases, I finally rolled up my sleeves and delved into the US Department of Labor, released January 9, 2015.

          Their claim just below the heading claims the following:

          “Total nonfarm payroll employment rose by 252,000 in December, and the unemployment rate declined to 5.6 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Job gains occurred in professional and business services, construction, food services and drinking places, health care, and manufacturing.”

          However, in wading through all of the breakdowns imaginable, from Non-farm payroll, to several surveys, a description of terminology, to a breakdown of Household Data, to Establishment Data that includes every possible subdivision imaginable, including gender, race, age, etc. I think I have been able to calculate how these “news” articles you cite have come up with the 92 million unemployed. It appears that they are using the “totals” listed that include 16 year olds and older by gender.

          This is just as I suspected; the 92 million numbers include 16 year olds and up students in H.S., College, and Trade Schools, women who are stay-at-home moms, elderly retired men and women, and men and women with disabilities, etc.

          Just accounting for the number of men and women over 65 (both disabled, and non-disabled), this segment of the population accounts for 37.2 million US citizens, which reduces the 92 million claim to 54.8 million, then subtracting the kids in various levels of their education accounts for another 1.5 million, or 53 million. That is where I stopped combing through the mountains of informational minutia. I have provided the link to the BLS.gov website for your perusal if you want to check my claims from the cite:
          http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

          • You are relying solely on Government statistics. Nada….we’re not buying it. Again, it is too closely associated with you know who……

          • It is clear that most USA citizens will settle for those publications that suit their ideology, and feed their prejudices. I call them ideologues, the duped, the lemmings. You are not among them, are you, Joe? The dot-gov website numbers jive with Informedvoter’s claim, like I said. Trouble is; these figures include groups that are pre-work and post work ages. Notice, those tabulations didn’t include from those age very young and very old age groups, people who are fully employed, only those who are unemployed (another statistical piece of the employment numbers puzzle that would make the case for jobs even better, perhaps. You did take the time to look into it, didn’t you Joe?

          • I can speak from experience. Most of the jobs in this state have gone to ILLEGALS or Hispanics. In fact, in the school districts you can get paid more (a hefty amount I might add 70,000 and up) if you are bilingual. We have been displaced workers who have quit looking. We had to start to become creative and start businesses. That seems the only way people in this state can make it (unless you are wealthy which helps) if you are not an ethnic group. Then of course we have to pay all those taxes and now Obummer wants to raise them again? What a loser. We need to cut taxes not raise them. Again, I speak from experience and we see this all around us with people we know.

            I don’t need all your research to see what is going on with my own eyes…. Why do you think that most citizens are still so disenchanted?

          • On one level, I see what you’re saying. I am very aware of a Mexican presence in our State of Pennsylvania. The drywall industry has had a field-day hiring these immigrants (illegals???) at a fraction of the pay a national would need to get by. Then again, these immigrants live 6 in a one bedroom apartment, and provide the perfect model for Republicans regarding what the USA workforce should capitulate to in order to compete for jobs, given their disdain for labor or anything not incorporated.

            The influx of a Spanish speaking population and the need for ESL teachers to educate them is an issue that presents a burden on our public education system; no question. Don’t know that punishing those that have the job of teaching these students is the right approach.

            And hasn’t Obama suggested that the top 10% be taxed at a higher rate, while those in the middle class be given a tax break that here-to-fore has gone to the top?

            I have seen the need to research to get a grasp on what is going on in the great USA sell-out. Everything from the policies that greased the skids for the offshoring of jobs to sweatshop, cheap labor, to the deregulation of the financial sector, to the monopolization of commerce to corporations that have evolved to “‘multinational” status, to the influence of international banks (IMF, World Bank) on world commerce, to a move toward a NWO, to rhetorical sound-bites that use disingenuous, deceptive lies to dupe and stir a populous . These are issues that need to be subject to research in order to see through the illusions that are designed to guide the sheeple. I do my dead level best not to be among them!

          • No matter what I want to believe, I can find something on the internet that will back it up. There are groups that celebrate hitler’s birthday.

    • LOL, So true, every single bit of it. Now Obummer wants to tax, tax, tax the wealthy. They tried that in France. 75% to be exact. Since they have found out it doesn’t work, the law is being repealed. Why should we have to suffer and give up on the American Dream. What Communist ideology coming from the prophet. What a loser…… My hope is that he doesn’t do this by executive fiat.

      ….And you Liberals with investments, you know who you are, good luck, he even wants to tax those. Since many of the wealthy are Liberals, I think it is apropros that you get yours…

      • The marginal tax rates during the 50s and 60s, the USA heyday when we won the race to the moon, rebuilt Europe and Japan (Marshall Plan), outpaced the competing economic rival, the USSR, cultivated the world’s most prolific R&D efforts, and witnessed the largest expansion in USA history and still saw budget surpluses) were set at 90%…

        • It was an entirely different world then. Don’t even go there. You cannot even compare the two presidents. One was highly regarded and America was better for it and the other simply divided us down into the drink. Sorry, not buying it……

        • I have always said that greed and ignorance are the two greatest sins and the greatest threats to Democracy. Greed feeds off ignorance. We can see the type of people that special interests love.

    • Please explain to me how the GOP worked tirelessly to attempt to fix all the things you mention over the last 6 years.
      Oh… they just blocked everything?
      Deliberately?
      Mitch McConnell is actually quoted as stating this as their game plan?
      They even blocked things that they, themselves, started if Obama tried to move them forward?
      They spent their time holding 50+ pointless repeal votes on Obamacare?
      They are the second least productive Congress in history?
      Guess it must all be Obama’s fault then.

        • According to the Bureau of Labor statistics, unemployment is lower than it has been for 8 years. 6.3%. Of course, the ideologues, from the backwoods, are not going to accept those statistics.

          • Sorry, unemployment is up again. Remember during the holiday’s companies always hire to help reinforce the shopping traffic by consumers. However as more people turn to online purchases that demographic may also change….

          • Definition: The real unemployment rate (U-6) is almost double the widely reported rate (U-3) issued in each month’s jobs report. The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports on both each month, but there isn’t as much media attention paid to the real unemployment rate. However, it may paint a clearer picture of true unemployment in the United States.

            In the widely reported unemployment rate (U-3), the BLS only counts those who have looked for a job in the past four weeks as unemployed. They’re included in the labor force, because their jobless situation is only temporary (hopefully).

            Once they haven’t looked for a job in the past four weeks are no longer counted as unemployed or in the labor force. They are added to a group the BLS calls marginally attached.

            The real unemployment rate is 11.2% for December 2014, nearly double the reported rate of 5.6%. Is the government lying? What do U think!!!

      • The GOP did what their followers elected them to do, block the terrible legislation the Democrats were trying to pass! In doing so, they helped accomplish the things mentioned. The least productive Congress is due to Harry Reid not even voting on the stuff the House passed. You are part of the low information voters the president counted on to keep his failed policies in place. The recod losses in the 2014 election showed the voters are no longer buying the crap his administration is selling.

      • Mitch McConnell’s exact words: “The Republicans’ number one goal is to make Obama a one-term president.” Shortly after the inauguration, a group of Republicans met to discuss how to keep Obama from succeeding. I do not belong to a party. I think if a party tells you what to think, it will be a problem. However, since we elected a Black President, I have a very low opinion of the GOP.

  24. WOW………
    President Obama’s approval rating just hit 50 percent for the first time since the spring of 2013. That’s the biggest — and most surprising — takeaway from a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.

    The last time he hit the half-century mark was in May 2013, when WaPo-ABC and a few other pollsters showed him there just a few months into his second term.

    But while other pollsters have shown Obama’s approval rating getting slightly better, none have shown him recovering to the extent that this survey does. In fact, the new poll represents Obama’s biggest approval bump since the mission that killed Osama bin Laden in May 2011. His approval rating has risen nine percentage points in the past month alone, while his disapproval has dropped by 10 points.

    • When you have an audience that is comprised of those with a certain ideology, then you formulate propaganda attack strategies that feed an ideological bias, especially when those attack strategies pull the trigger of strong emotions like hate, fear, anger, etc., you have a very effective strategy to mobilize ones base…

      See: “The Integration of Theory and Practice (2001),” a propaganda manifesto by Eric Heubeck, published by the political think tank, Free Congress Foundation, that would make Joseph Goebbels blush.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Integration_of_Theory_and_Practice

      • “I’m not upset that you lied to me, I’m upset that from now on I can’t believe you.” – Nietzche

        Obama’s ‘blizzard of lies’

        When do LIARS like President Obama deserve ANY respect, he doesn’t respect the citizens of the United States or the people who he PREVARICATES to 24/7 .

        By Marc A. Thiessen October 13, 2014

        In 1996, the late, great New York Times columnist William Safire published a column, “Blizzard of lies,” in which he laid out a series of falsehoods by Hillary Rodham Clinton and declared “Americans of all political persuasions are coming to the sad realization that our First Lady — a woman of undoubted talents who was a role model for many in her generation — is a congenital liar.”

        Today, Americans of all political stripes are coming to a similar, sad realization about our president. A recent Fox News poll asked Americans “How often does Barack Obama lie to the country on important matters?” Thirty-seven percent said “most of the time,” 24 percent said “some of the time,” and 20 percent said “only now and then.” Just 15% said “never.”

        Think about that: 81 percent of Americans believe that Obama lies to them at least “now and then” on “important matters.” That is simply stunning.These Americans are right. The latest evidence came when The Post revealed that on Friday, April 20, 2012, Secret Service Director Mark Sullivan came to White House counsel Kathryn Ruemmler with a specific, credible allegation of misconduct by a member of the White House advance team in Cartegena, Colombia.

        According to The Post, he informed Ruemmler that there was evidence that Jonathan Dach registered a prostitute into his room at the Hilton Cartagena Hotel shortly after midnight on April 4. That is specific. And he told Ruemmler that Secret Service agents on the ground had information suggesting the same. That is credible.Yet three days later, on Monday, April 24, then-presidential press secretary Jay Carney told the American people from the White House podium: “There have been no specific, credible allegations of misconduct by anyone on the White House advance team.”

        Carney’s statement was flat untrue.

        Carney further declared that “out of due diligence, the White House counsel’s office has conducted a review of the White House advance team and . . . came to the conclusion that there’s no indication that any member of the White House advance team engaged in any improper conduct or behavior.Really? Between Friday and Monday they examined all the evidence, interviewed all the witnesses and confirmed that those allegations were completely untrue? Did that weekend review include the actual copies of the Hilton hotel records, which, The Post reported, showed that a prostitute had registered into Dach’s room at 12:02 a.m. April 4? The records even included a photocopy of a woman’s ID card.

        So why did Carney tell the American people there were “no specific, credible allegations” when he knew there were? And why did he say that the White House initiated its own investigation “out of due diligence” when he knew it was in response to evidence brought forward by the Secret Service?

        Because there is a culture of deceit in the Obama White House — a serial willingness to say things that are untrue to protect the president.

        Think about some of the falsehoods this White House has told the country: They told Americans that no one at the White House edited the Benghazi talking points to blame the attack on an Internet video — until it came out that Deputy National Security Adviser Ben Rhodes had urged Susan Rice “to underscore that these protests are rooted in and Internet video, and not a broader failure or policy.”

        The president repeatedly told Americans that no one would lose his or her doctor or health-care plan — until it later emerged that White House policy advisers had urged him to drop the line but “were overruled by political aides.”

        Obama told Americans that there was “not even a smidgen” of corruption at the Internal Revenue Service (while the investigation was still underway) — but then it was revealed that there had been a spontaneous combustion of hard drives among IRS officials under investigation.

        Add to that White House spokesman Josh Earnest’s false claim that Obama “wasn’t specifically referring to” Islamic State when he called them JV terrorists . . . or Obama’s false assertion that the sequester was “not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed” . . . or his false claim that “7 million Americans . . . have access to health care for the first time because of Medicaid expansion.”

        The list goes on and on. One falsehood can be a mistake. Two are troubling. But three, four, five or more in a row? That is a pattern of deceit. Or, in the immortal words of William Safire, a “blizzard of lies.”

        VERITAS

        • Could it be said, with some certainty, that you have an axe to grind when it come to President Obama. WOW!

          It will take me some time to look into your voluminous claims. I intend to give each a measure of the myopic scrutiny, it is abundantly apparent, that you have.

          • Joe T, I will suffice it to say that the investigation of your claims has turned up nothing that hasn’t already been subject to the microscopic gaze of the media, not to mention lawyers in the courts of law that are paid grand sums to parse minutia to arrive at a favorable verdict in order to boost their portfolios.
            -The William Safire claim that Hillary is a “congenital liar” over the Whitewater case.

          • Mat, we are the messenger not the message….
            striving to illuminate the ignorant (uniformed) low info person to elucidate the subject regarding the very dysfunctional political atmosphere the USA is experiencing with this current administration.
            ciao

      • I wouldn’t even answer that nut job who is helping hitler hate minorities. Those people tell more lies than anyone I know. They never put provable facts out there, just rabid hate.

    • Good job, Joe. Bomb the uninformed with more information than they can handle. They just don’t get facts and stats:) It will truly make their minds spin.

      • Facts are facts and the TRUTH will prevail…..

        oBAMA ‘s own words and actions have convicted him of

        duplicity and an inferiority complex as President.

        PS: Did you hear him use the word “nihilism” in the joint news conference with GB’s PM the other day?
        (sic)
        Nihilism is the philosophical doctrine suggesting the negation of one or more putatively meaningful aspects of life. Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value. …

        He’s being heavily coached…..stay tuned

          • Ditto……..Obama lover
            February 17, 2008, reprint – Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

            As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery

            The Liberal Mind is the first in-depth examination of the major political madness of our time: The radical left’s efforts to regulate the people from cradle to grave. To rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda’s madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by villains. [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

  25. 5 lies that have shaped the Obama presidency | New York …

    nypost.com/…/how-falsehoods-and-fibs-have-shaped-the-…
    New York Post
    Sep 13, 2014 – Although the most consequential of Obama’s lies — it got him … In fact, the bizarre, deadly idea to let American guns “walk” into Mexico, where …

  26. Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama aka pseudo Pres of USA

    char·la·tan ˈSHärlədən ˈSHärlətn
    noun
    noun charlatan plural noun charlatans
    a person falsely claiming to have a special knowledge or skill; a fraud.
    quack sham fraud fake impostor hoaxercheat deceiver double-dealer swindler fraudstermountebank phony shark con man con artist scam artist flimflammer bunco artist snake oil salesmanconfidence man/woman

    Web definitions
    mountebank: a flamboyant deceiver; one who attracts customers with tricks or jokes
    http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=charlatan

  27. The entire world knows who Obama is why don’t YOU?

    Pentagon Official: The President Is Lying To America | The …

    dailycaller.com/…/pentagon-official-the-president-is-lyin…

    The Daily Caller

    Sep 30, 2014 – Because not only was his excuse of blaming us a lie, but when questioned on his lie, White … Obama was the biggest mistake to America.

  28. Obama had a GOD given opportunity to be a great President for USA
    he chose his way…………lying, deceiving, and lying and deceiving etc etc
    “Fools rush in Angels fear to tread”…A. Pope 1709

  29. Not necessity, not desire – no, the love of power is the demon of men. Let them have everything – health, food, a place to live, entertainment – they are and remain unhappy and low-spirited: for the demon waits and waits and will be satisfied.-Friedrich Nietzsche

    • Your hatred of Obama is anything, but Christian. There is no commandment in the Ten Commandments that says, “Thou shalt not lie.” It says “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” That makes you responsible for spreading the white supremist lies. Those lies are so hate filled and so ridiculous. Don’t bother answering this as I do not converse with racists.

      • We are the messenger ……….not the message….

        Striving to illuminate the 47 % ignorant (uniformed) low info people to elucidate the subject regarding the very dysfunctional political atmosphere of chaos that the USA is experiencing with this current administration BY NOT calling terrorists….Terrorists.

        Radical Islamic terrorists, extremists, Beheading experts aren’t terrorists any more according to Obama and his fools in the WH administration called the 3 stooges….Kerry etc

        and so-called advisers known as the MARX brothers…fill in the blank names….who lie to us.

        Google what we post it’s accurate, no spin doctor treatment or prevarications like Obama.

    • Get real. An ex-CIA employee “admits” this?
      Think maybe you should reconsider what kind of stories you’re willing to believe.

  30. Let the liberals keep thinking their delusional thoughts, it only hastens the demise of the liberal agenda and brings more of their base – the ones who are finally seeing the truth behind their rhetoric to the ranks of Conservatives voters. People are waking up to the fact that liberal “solutions” do more harm than good to our nation, our people and our economy so their solutions are based on lies, fabrications and their Gruber mentality that the American electorate is stupid, makes poor choices and only they can lead us to the promised land. A promised land where the US becomes a 3rd rate 3rd world 2 bit country of misery, no hope, no change and divided.

      • Let’s keep ’em on the ropes Joe………….did you notice my latest posts verifying Obama’s 24/7 lies and other info?
        Even from excia……….savvy

        • LOL, yes I did. Seems there are more Conservatives on this site lately than Liberals. Do you think we are scaring them off with all these facts…….

          • Did you watch Obama speech tonight?
            What a boatload of…..Obama
            Sweet smelling boatload….jasmine I think
            He’s an expert spin doctor without a degree
            I (we) post facts, truth wins out….not BS
            stay tuned Joe S….ciao

          • Joe T…get mental help. Your narrow mind is the proving you are a maniac who refuse to be rational or reasonable. Your ideology is so narrow that not even you could hope to abide by its basic tenets. Grow up little boy and get professional mental help. Your days of whining, bitching and complaining about things your will not now nor EVER force upon others are OVER. Now do take your mania and seek help.

          • I watched Obama’s speech tonight. So..You think you can live on $15K a year? “DO IT!” So..you think it’s okay to allow a 2500 mile long pipeline from Hardisty Alberta to Galveston TX, taking US land from US property owner and handing it to a foreign country? “When Canada refused to allow the US the same sovereignty?” You think in the year 2015, women who have the same job responsibilities as men, should earn 77 cents for every dollar a man does?

            And, you think keeping Gitmo open only so the state of TX, VA, AZ and OK can continue to make profits that the rest of us pay as taxpayers is right? You think torture is okay?

            It figures. Another right wing sick dude who can’t hope to ever be reasoned with on issues ALL Americans except a dung face like you are concerned about. ACLU is already looking into abuse of power in NY state government. The GOP thugs will be next…and won’t I rub that in YOUR face when it does? You are a bona fide sicko.

          • When joe t watched the speech, if he did, he was prepared to pick it apart as he already hates the “Black” man in the White House.

          • Want to know something? My retirement plan was underwritten by Enron. I also had a 401K that the war criminals destroyed. Now, I have two small pensions, one for 500 dollars a month and one for 100. My income is less than 15K a year and some in Washington wants to tamper with that. After working from 18 years old to 68, I have become one of the 47%. Perhaps the t-potties would like to find another Korvorkian to solve the Seniors and health care problems.

          • Don’t feel too special or all by yourself in that 47% (that likely wouldn’t vote for Romney no matter what he said). We lost 38% of our retirement overnight. We’ve been too precocious to trust our money with the thieving bastards again.

            As the price of housing and credit escalates out of reach, and small loans from CareCredit are needed to pay for doctor ordered treatments, we are reminded how peachy the economy is by Fearless Leader.

            I’d like to retire too. Instead, I drag my aching butt out of bed 6 days a week to earn a modest living without waiting for the monthly public stipend to show up. I predict an exodus to Oregon when 72 becomes the new age to retire with federal subsidy. And it won’t be the TP that drove us there.

          • It will be the guys who started unfunded wars without cause, cut taxes on billionaires, and handed the country to corporations. Don’t know how many in the TP qualify, but I’m sure plenty do.

          • You must like the debt your chosen one continues to accumulate. It will be interesting to see the current money-grabbing budget go down in flames like all the other failed budget proposals that are spiraling the nation into fiscal oblivion.

          • GREETINGS:

            A REPLY TO ELEANORE WHITAKER’S POSTED VITRIOLIC COMMENTS SANS CAUSE.

            Eleanore is suffering from a Psychosis in her mind affecting her thought process.

            {Psychosis is a serious mental disorder characterized by thinking and emotions that are so impaired, that they indicate that the person experiencing them has lost contact with reality.}

            {These experiences can be frightening and may cause people who are suffering from psychosis to hurt themselves or “others”. It is important to see a doctor right away if you or someone you know is experiencing symptoms of psychosis.}

            Reading her troubling posts in a public forum with the intensity of her language and hatred.

            This reply to ELEANORE WHITAKER is for her health and our safety for cause.

            Eleanore Whitaker your vitriolic posts are neither rational nor logical.

            Not rational, sans pretext attacking the messenger vehemently.

            Not logical, for the message( post) is verifable from public sources.

            Reporting of an event/dialogue, sans spin is foreign to you; effrontery is not.

            Posts are difficult for you to comprehend and troubling in your mind.

            Posts you attack are canny to others in political public forums.

            Events regarding U.S. politics, terrorism and social issues are verified worldwide.

            Irrational disparaging words refute your posts and do not boaster your point.

            Reflect on your mental state it compulsively makes you “act” obdurate to others.

            Iresponsibility is nonbeneficial to public forums posted by you.

            Succinctly it’s an offensive method you use trying to impugn truth, which is coupled with an inability to express any positive emotions without a spin doctor rhetorical reply form you.

            Continuing “ad nauseam” (like you) to explain your inane uneducated replies of your temerity and unintelligible palaver that reeks with ill bipolar tendencies resulting in minatory statements by you exhibiting personal rage sans cause.

            Pursuant to your passive-aggressive behavior albeit formed years ago in your psyche via physical or mental post- traumatic event you may have encountered “maybe” thru no fault of your own, causing your evidentiary delusions in your state of mind.

            {Opinion vs fact – An opinion is not fact – a fact is not opinion. Debate vs argument -to debate is to utilize logic – to argue is embracing violence. Assertiveness is being confident while aggressiveness is truculent. Strangers don’t interact in a bombastic manner like you. Treatment is highly recommended for you with a Psychiatrist who can dispense Psychotropic medications for your mental (thought process) state that emulates the radical thought process of Islamic Muslims having truculent tendencies that you emulate.}

            You are lost in the weeds of confusion with odious thoughts.

            Have any immediate family/relatives/friends?

            Personal demeanor today by radical Muslims who devoutly follow the Islamic teaching comports a person’s behavior governed by a compulsion…..beheading etc.

            R U an acolyte of radical Islamic teachings or still a Communist/Sociopathy sympathizer?

            Psychopathy and sociopathy are anti-social personality disorders.

            The difference between a sociopath and a psychopath is germane to society.

            One hates people – the other hates them enough to kill them; e.g. Islamic radicals.

            You categorically exhibit radical emotional rage for anyone to ascertain and witness.

            Your intelligence level is self-evident lacking in common sense sans credibility.

            Good luck trying to enjoy a sane life in the chaotic world your thoughts delve in.

            Cease embarra”ass”ing yourself in public forums with rude personal angst posts.

            Posts so rambling and so far out in LEFT field you’re not even in a forum’s ballpark.

            You consider all news reported worldwide to be false regarding Dems/Obama.

            To wit: “wouldst not play false and yet would wrongly win”- Shakespeare

            You are attempting to defend Dems/Obama! Did someone mortify you mentally? Your putative mental obsession to attack strangers is aberrant in societal interaction. Hence, a psychological analysis is recommended. Pursuant to your demeanor the reply may appear on other forums you rant on.

            January 23, 2015 at 5:55 pm

            The Muslim in Chief is doing his best to destroy our constitution and our nation.

            Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/the-administration-is-fuming-over-the-israeli-leaders-plans-to/#xISAtRjhTFMYymbf.99

            “Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings — always darker, emptier and simpler.”

            ― Friedrich Nietzsche

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          • GREETINGS:
            A REPLY TO JOE T’S ENDLESS, LONG RUNNING, PSYCHOTIC RANT.

            Joe T. is one of those men, who if you dare to disagree with, present facts I know you know you can prove in a court of law, he rants. Rants and rants. He foolishly believes I’d take the time or effort to even bother to read his long, list of militant BS.

            Sorry Joe..you’re off your Thorazine again? A post that rambles on and on endlessly, proves more than you, in you sick mind, ever can. You need professional mental help. Get it before you go over the edge.

          • Schmo…More CONs? Do you usually walk around with that convenient deafness and blindness? Or is that just to fool yourself you are King Schmo who commands the tides? Your days of playing the Right Wing Force is with you are over.

            What you stupid morons of the right don’t get is that no human being will live in one of your ideological ruts forever. Watch what happens now that this President has put on the gloves and is out their fighting for the rest of us. Hope you enjoy paying more taxes on your wealth. After all, it came from the rest of us didn’t it?

          • Stay tuned? You bet I will. Some of us intend to do better than that…we intend to make sure those loopholes and tax breaks end…You are the one who better stay tuned..You’re the 1% …We are the 99%…you are beaten at every turn if you dare and try to pull off another 2 more years of stagnation.

          • So…you can dish it out…but you can’t take it? That makes you what we knew from the get go…a coward. You bet I’m confrontational. To sit by in silence while clowns like you destroy my country would be a travesty of justice…Prepare yourself…I’m just one of the 99% ready to force you to prove you are lying.

          • Yes, and their “facts” are mostly name-calling. If you point out something that does not fit what they already believe, then you are hateful. If they use the word, “liberal” like it is a swear word, then they are “enlightened.”

          • idamag…once you figure out why these guys are such losers, you see why they are also haters. When these kind of men are so full of hate, you know that the one they hate the most is themselves. I’m sure you’ve seen this many times in hateful little boys who demand to get their way.

            That never flies in any society, much less any civilization. Men who act like they are still going through the Terrible Twos forget that women who raised children spot such childish behavior instantly.

            The wonder of it is that these big baby rabble rousers actually keep hoping desperately to take over the world. So did Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini. And we all know how well that never worked out for them.

            The reality is what these little boys want is what they will demand more vehemently the older they get: the ability to make others “obey.” These are usually the guys who wouldn’t dare stand up to their wives for fear of never again finding another woman who’d want them. So, their pent up anger and hostility at lack of wife control makes them take out their childish revenge on others. Pathetic as that may be.

            My way with these typically sociopathic men is to never allow them one moment of peace. Not that they can ever process peace anyway. rofl

          • People, where I live, are quite conservative. Often, they assume everyone thinks as they do. They will make a statement that is absurd and I come up with a fact. Then, it is immediately “We don’t discuss politics.”

          • Typical Conservative “sneak out”…they don’t like facts. So, they suddenly become apolitical. Meanwhile, they are stabbing every other American in the back with their freeloading policies.

    • What planet do you live on? America is quickly becoming a 3rd rate oligarchy. GOP operatives are doing their best to chisel even more wealth and power from the middle class so the top richest can hoard even more cash.
      Reagan took a healthy middle class and began our demise from a democracy to banal oligarchy while his narrative has droves of TPers demanding more more more.
      This failed policy remains the #1 myth among the TP faithful; if only we can devote more cash to the top we can be free!

      • With all due respect to your Ad Infinitum post to me,
        Earth, I live on, please join us, where R U from?

        Income Inequality Is Higher In Democratic Districts Than . Republican….Veritas!

        The folks at Bloomberg Rankings, drawing on U.S. Census data, have measured the level of inequality—the Gini coefficient—in each of the 435 U.S. congressional districts. It’s a fascinating list (and a map) that reveals all sorts of interesting things. Here’s one: 32 of the 35 districts in which inequality is greatest are represented by Democrats (Republicans represent two; the other is vacant).

        AGAIN….Michael R. Bloomberg, a longtime Democrat who switched to the Republican Party to run for mayor of New York City in 2001, announced this evening that he is changing his party status and registering as an independent.Jun 19, 2007

        The folks at Bloomberg Rankings, drawing on U.S. Census data, have measured the level of inequality—the Gini coefficient—in each of the 435 U.S. congressional districts. It’s a fascinating list (and a map) that reveals all sorts of interesting things. (I sent links)

        Here’s one: 32 of the 35 districts in which inequality is greatest are represented by Democrats (Republicans represent two; the other is vacant).

        These districts are spread across the country, from the Northeast to the Southeast, to the West Coast, and even the Midwest. Why do Democrats dominate them? Because almost every one of these 35 districts lies in an urban center dominated by two groups of people living in close proximity to each other: highly educated, highly paid whites and poor blacks and Latinos.

        These groups are essentially the Democratic Party’s base, in toto.

        If you’re curious about how two Republican lawmakers showed up on this list, each of their districts turns out to represent a slight twist on this same urban formula. Florida Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen’s district (the state’s 27th) includes part of Miami and extends along the coast to the south. It encompasses plenty of Miami Beach ritz and a poor minority population that lives nearby—but the latter are mostly Cuban Americans who, unlike members of other minority communities, reliably vote Republican:

        These districts are spread across the country, from the Northeast to the Southeast, to the West Coast, and even the Midwest. Why do Democrats dominate them? Because almost every one of these 35 districts lies in an urban center dominated by two groups of people living in close proximity to each other: highly educated, highly paid whites and poor blacks and Latinos. These groups are essentially the Democratic Party’s base.

        Jacob Hacker and Paul Pierson, political scientists at Yale and Berkeley, respectively, take a slightly different tack. Like Bartels and Krugman, they believe that government action (and inaction) at the federal level played a leading role in creating the Great Divergence. But the culprit, they say, is not so much partisan politics (i.e., Republicans) as institutional changes in the way Washington does business (i.e., lobbyists). “Of the billions of dollars now spent every year on politics,” Hacker and Pierson point out in their new book”, only a fairly small fraction is directly connected to electoral contests. The bulk of it goes to lobbying.” Corporations now spend more than $3 billion annually on lobbying, according to official records cited by Hacker and Pierson (which, they note, understate true exenditures). That’s nearly twice what corporations spent a decade ago. According to Hacker and Pierson, industry began to mobilize in the early 1970s in response to liberalism’s political ascendancy when Richard Nixon entered the White House in 1969.
        parallel comunique’
        Ad Infinitum-Veritas!

        Best regards, Joe T

        • Income inequality? That’s simple: Rural, low population, predominantly white districts tend to vote Republican, and urban, high population, predominantly minority districts tend to vote Democratic.
          This has a lot to do with decent paying manufacturing jobs moving from the cities to the suburbs, and from the suburbs to rural areas. In addition, urban wages and cost of living is higher, and since the advent of the jobs offshoring trend that has been in effect since the late 60s, but shifted into another gear with NAFTA

          • Yeah…I was just leveling the playing field, both Dems and Reps have their greed, entitlement attitudes and causes; what should irritate anyone is either side using the Spin Doctor method of always defending their position….proof of achievement is in factually documenting said efforts to better lives in society. Talk is cheap verified actions are real.
            best regards, Joe T

          • Rural people do not experience the diversity in ideas and people and therefore are not the best informed voters. They are quick to condemn anyone who is different than they are. I guess your I.Q. doesn’t increase when your only debate opponents are the back ends of cows, sheep, or horses.

          • Some people are too quick to condemn rural Americans. In my travels some of the finest, solid, trustworthy people live beyond the suburbs. You know, similar to all of the founding fathers and the finest leaders.

          • I never condemned rural Americans, you twit. I am from rural America and there are many nice people here. I have traveled all over, also. My rural America is not as hateful as, say, the Deep South’s rural America. Must be tied to the religions. I still say that rural areas do not have the diversity that gives them different views, from their pre-conceived notions. As an example: Years ago, a co-worker was describing a a new comer to his village. He said the guy was so dumb he didn’t know a singletree from a doubletree. He was also leery of anyone who came from east of the Mississippi. Your use of a word that overstates what I said is an example of todays t-potty people.

          • To refresh your memory, here is the full context of your condescending string of insults condemning the ‘rural folk’:

            Rural people do not experience the diversity in ideas and people and therefore are not the best informed voters. They are quick to condemn anyone who is different than they are. I guess your I.Q. doesn’t increase when your only debate opponents are the back ends of cows, sheep, or horses.

            Denial is free. You obviously use your fair share. Sheesh

          • and their “facts” are mostly name-calling.

            Thanks for making that clear (you are being mocked).

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