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Friday, September 30, 2016

Someone needs to tell Paul Ryan that his party – and the economic platform of austerity and plutocracy he crafted for it – lost a national election last year. Someone also needs to tell the Wisconsin Republican that he still chairs the House Budget Committee mainly thanks to gerrymandered redistricting.

Someone clearly needs to remind him of those realities because the “vision document” he proposed on Tuesday as the Republican federal budget is only a still more extreme version of the same notions (and the same evasions) that he and Mitt Romney tried to sell without success last fall.

Voters decisively rejected that version of Ryan’s “path to prosperity,” with its gutting of the Medicare and Medicaid programs, its additional tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans, and its destructive cutbacks in education, infrastructure, scientific research, national security, and a hundred other essential elements of modern American life – and a decent future – that require effective government.

Indeed, the astonishing initial assessment of the new Republican budget by experts at the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities is that Ryan wants even deeper cuts and even more lavish tax cuts than he and Romney touted in 2012. The CBPP estimates that the new Ryan plan would cut $800 billion over the coming decade from an assortment of vital programs, including Supplemental Nutrition Assistance (SNAP, or food stamps); Supplemental Security Income (SSI) that supports the elderly poor; Pell grants for higher education; and federal school lunches, among others, along with the Earned Income Tax Credits (EITC) and Child Tax Credits that have historically improved standards of living for millions of impoverished working families.

Ryan pretends to admire Ronald Reagan, but the late president — who proudly extended and expanded the EITC — was far too liberal for the likes of him and Romney.  Unlike the sunny Gipper, these sulking millionaires resent the working poor – the “47 percent” – who aren’t paying high enough taxes.

But everyone ought to know Ryan well enough by now to anticipate these cruel proposals. They ought to know, too, that Ryan would allow the entire edifice handed down to us by previous generations – highways, bridges, airports, canals, reservoirs, schools, parks, and much more – to crumble into oblivion, rather than increase taxes on the Republican donors whose wealth has multiplied so astronomically in recent years. His voice is the high-pitched drone of a generation of termites, voraciously consuming the nation’s foundations.

What everyone may not know is that Ryan’s vision of the future is quite blurry, since he again refuses to specify exactly how his budget allegedly achieves balance. It says (again) that the severest cuts will be made in domestic non-discretionary spending, but never details how much will be cut from which programs or even categories. It says (again) that tax expenditures will be reduced to balance those tax cuts for the rich, but never details those either. It says (again) that the Affordable Care Act will be repealed, although there is no chance of that happening now. And it says that defense spending – including untold billions in well-known waste – will simply be restored to pre-sequestration levels, while everything else will be cut again, starting at the post-sequestration baseline, much as Romney promised last year.

It says the federal budget will achieve balance within 10 years, but (again) there is no reason to believe its unfounded promises.

This old “new” budget demonstrates that no change is taking hold among the Republicans, except that they seem even more rigid in their ideological obsessions. No basis exists for bipartisan negotiation toward a budget compromise.

Without a massive public reaction to the Ryan proposals, the likelihood is that sequestration will continue and the Republicans will again seek to hold government hostage, as they have done repeatedly since 2009. And the nation will continue to suffer until voters finally decide, in their wisdom, to curtail the power of this truculent and implacable faction.

  • old_blu

    Sounds like the same old regurgitated crap the republicans have been spewing all along, they just refuse to believe anything that the president and the democrats comes up with is what we want, they keep forgetting who won the election.

    • Eleanore Whitaker

      We already told the GOP what we wanted….President Obama. How dare they decide for us what is best? Are they broadcasting a rerun of “Father Knows Best?”. We need a petition to remove Ryan and his Gang of 8 from Congress before they remove all of us to the welfare lines. All he kept saying in his interview upon presentation of his budget was business this …business that…since when is it the job of American taxpayers to hand over our payroll taxes to businesses?

      • BDC_57

        Rayan will never learn he’s pushing the same shit he did during the election.

      • ceverettham

        I am not sure what country you live in but almost half of the United States is on some form of welfare and it seems like it will only keep getting worse. By the way businesses pay way more in taxes than you or I ever will. I don’t like Ryan’s budget plan but something has to be done. And also if you don’t want anyone deciding what is best for you than why vote Democrat.

        • english_teacher

          Do you think that the fact the Republicans haven’t done anything to help create jobs, something which they campaigned on, might have more to do with more people being on welfare? What does businesses paying more taxes than you or I have to do with anything? If they or anyone makes more money than you or I, then they should pay their fair share according to what they’ve earned.

          • ceverettham

            Businesses create jobs which move the economy. If they can’t make a return on their money they will not invest in jobs. The point about businesses paying more than individuals is apparent to most level headed Americans. We need business to move the economy.

          • If tax breaks for business created jobs, we would have full employment now.

          • ceverettham

            If the government could employ everyone we would have full employment now.

          • idamag

            Something that seems too hard for a lot of people to realize.

          • mah101

            And we need a middle class with enough disposable income to buy the products that business sells. And we need an education system to support the skills and thinking abilities needed to form that middle class. And we need real opportunities for poorer people to move out of poverty into middle class. And we need the infrastructure to support all that. And we need…

            Really, do I need to go on? This is not the Corporate States of America, it is for ALL of us – business and non alike. We all contribute and anything that stands in the way of insuring that everyone has the opportunity to contribute to a healthy vital society is damaging to that society.

          • jgodiska

            Yes we do. But it is the things that business invest ” IN ” that causes the problems. Everyone wants to make the best return on their money. The problem comes, when those investors control the markets, and invest in things like “futures” stocks, which can pay an outageous amount of dividend. Rather than re-investing in business, which creates jobs, they invest it in things that cause the price of gas to go up, the price of food to go up, and the price of any consumer good to go up. For their own personal profit.

            If we are to do anything to help business, we need to work on the high costs of workers comp, and health insurance. Work on fixing those things, with their humongous loopholes, which thwarts the desire to hire and expand. I hear it every day from my customers.

          • idamag

            Then tell them to get off their duffs and create jobs. An independent businessman is a different breed than multi-national corporations, crooked banks and speculators. The ones reaping the most benefits from the present tax structure is the too big to fail boys. With all the special loopholes that they enjoy, many of them pay no taxes. We need consumers to move the economy.

          • jmConn

            Actually, businesses do not create jobs….they supply jobs once demand creates them. The job creators are actually the people who spend money and that includes your welfare recipients and other low income people as well as the middle class.

          • AdamMos

            Business do not create jobs – consumers do when they buy stuff. Businesses exist to make profits and there is nothing wrong with that. When demand exceeds supply they hire people.When nobody is buying stuff they lay people off. That is why we need to grow our economy from the middle out. Trickle down was a total failure. We need to recreate strong consumer spending like Clinton did which resulted in 23 million new jobs created. The best thing we can do today is what Obama is recomending. Smart cuts in spending to elimate waste and abuse and smart investments in renewable energy, education and infrastructure.

          • Why is it that big businesses aren’t creating jobs but are still getting corporate welfare and tax breaks that makes sure that they do not pay taxes? Small businesses are the job makers not the businesses that have the most tax breaks get corporate welfare and anytime the President has tried to help small businesses create jobs he gets shotdown by the Republicans.
            I don’t know if any of you remember in 2005 the big businesses and corportations told Bush 2 that if he would give them a tax holiday in order to bring big sums of money tax free into the US, they would use it to create jobs, Bush 2 agreed to and these businesses and corportations brought in hugh amounts of money. But there no job creations announced after the money came into the Country. The only announcements were about the hugh bonuses of CEOs and higher management, the higher dividends paid the investors that had made big investments in them but no dividends for the smaller investors We understand when a company like GE say that they made billions in profits and didn’t have to pay any taxes, that means that many companies and corporations don’t pay taxes, why don’t you? Also we understand lower taxes for the rich does not mean more jobs but less jobs. I have only been laid off from any job I have ever had but I got laid off with Reagan’s trickle down economy plan as did thousands of other people. The second time I got laid off was after Bush 2 second tax when ten of thousands were being put on the unemployment line. I for one understand that lower taxes do not create jobs but does cause people to lose jobs.

          • Justin Napolitano

            Except, once again the facts don’t support you supposition.

        • old_blu

          The satus quo is not working and the trickle down crap the Republicans have been shoveling at us for so long is not creating jobs like it was suppose to, we need jobs for this to work. You are talking like the rich need a bigger break we voted that out when we voted for President Obama.

          • ceverettham

            That was your mistake. The whole congress is responsible for the mess we are in. By The way I am not a Republican I just have common sense.

          • old_blu

            I’m sure you meant to say the obstructionist congress led by the Republicans right?

          • ceverettham

            Like I said all of Congress.

          • ceverttham – If I had to do it again, I would vote for Obama again! The GOP wants things the way they were 50 years ago where women knew their place, white men were the rulers and no one, NO ONE, questioned them!! I would rather not vote than vote for a Repub if that were my only choice! They have gone off the grid!!

          • ceverettham

            I don’t agree with politicians most of the time. I also don’t feel that women should be where they were 50 years ago. I just don’t like the current administrations policy on most things and I don’t see a great alternative being offered elsewhere.

          • Can you articulate please just what policies you don’t like of the current administration. Is it that Obama has cut spending faster over the past 4 years than any president in office possibly ever but at least since WWII? Or is it because the administrations policies have given investors enough confidence to drive the stock market to the highest levelsl its ever achieved? Or is it because the administration has waged wars on fraud in many sectors of government, including the defense and healthcare sectors saving taxpayers billions; far more than any previous president? Or is it because the administration follwed through on TARP and the auto bailout, keeping American from falling into the GOP’s second created depression; and reviving the auto industry which saved more than 1.5 million people their jobs and has brought in industry related taxes of more than 110 billion over the past 3 years that would have been lost? Or is it because the administration has decimated al Qaeda, even killing bin Laden making America way safer than when the previous administration was in office? or the fact that despite the GOP’s hypocritcal spectacle over Benghazi, that the last 4 years have been the safest for America and its overseas personnel than at any time in the past 35-40 years with only 2 attacks on overseas offices with 4 people being killed, whereas during the terms of the last 3 GOP presidents there were 31 attacks on overseas offices and at home with more than 3,500 people being killed? Just what are these policies you don’t like?? Let’s hear them.

          • ceverettham

            You have way to much time on your hands. I don’t like the fact that this administration feels the need to get into every aspect of my life. Imaginary inflation is also a problem. Lets face it nothing costs more today than it did last year does it? These are my opinions which I have EARNED the right to have.

          • Explain to me please what policies that this administration has implemented that you feel gives it the right to delve into every aspect of your life?? Sorry, I’m confused. It seems to me that this administration has fought against the GOP implementing a lot of the “getting into every aspect of people’s lives” Remember it wasn’t the Dems that implemented the Patriot Act; it’s not the Dems that are trying to legislate disallowing women to live their lives they way they want to, or Gays either. From what I’ve seen this administration has worked to keep government out of controlling more and more of how people can live their lives and achieve happiness. Just what legislaltion or policies are you referring too?? I think you’re really confused.

          • Sand_Cat

            Don’t want to rain on your parade, but quite a few Dems voted for the Patriot Act, and to renew and extend it. A lot voted for the FiSA sellout, including the current president. They’re all mostly better than the Republicans, but that’s not to say they’re particularly good.

          • idamag

            Yes, there are Democrats who should be ashamed of the way they voted, but at this point they beat the alternative.

          • Some Dems may have voted for the Patriot Act because the Bush administration used such devious tactics to convince our legislators that emergency measures were needed to fight terrorism, but it was the Bush Administration that pushed through the Patriot Act, not a Dem president. As with others, I’m a little disappointed that the Obama administration hasn’t pressed to make some changes to it, but given the absolute obstructionism of the GOP, my guess is that Obama hasn’t been willing to take on that battle with so many other critical issues he’s had to deal with over the past 4 years.

          • jgsoliveira

            That’s it! But, unfortunately, we have those blue democrats!

          • jgsoliveira

            agree!

          • jgsoliveira

            Confused! I agree. He is REALLY confused! And not much informed, either. It shows in the comments. They are never specific, but a bunch of generalities. You see, the GOP relies on these morons.

          • And by the Ceverettham, I do have a lot of time on my hands – I’m 76 years old and retired, and quite honest, getting quite tired of listening to people like you that spout opinions without doing one shred of research to find out if what their complaining about is really true; but rather, being lazy and spending all their time listening to biased news sources like Faux News and hypocrital talk show hosts like Rush Limbag, Glenn Beck and other wackos. What really irks me is that there are millions of people like you who have half-baked ideas of what’s really going on, but yet you go into a voting booth and vote idiots into office because you really don’t know what you’re doing and how much you’re helping destroy America.

          • ceverettham

            I am tired of people like you calling people like me lazy, I do watch news and get my information from several sources, not just one like you seem to do. I have been working steady for forty years and contribute to my community, society and paying more than my fair share of taxes. I do not watch Fox News or listen to Rush. I also do not call people names, something I stopped when I was a young child. You at your age should have learned better by now.

          • lana ward

            If you disagree with these people, you will be called every name in the book!!- I know!! They have been completely brainwashed by Obama , just like Obama was completely brainwashed when he was young

          • ceverettham

            I know, I have tried to share my opinions before on this site and have received the same feed back as today. It can be entertaining though. Thank you for the comment.

          • lana ward

            Something you might be interested in–” Crossing Obama can be deadly,we the people of the United States ” It tells people who have ended up dead that disagree with Obama. And under ” Photos” it shows Obama and his double!!!

          • countrybumpkin44

            Kookoo

          • lana ward

            Check it out little coward-Obama has a double. Scared of what you’ll see??

          • AMADAL

            I have to stop reading–I’m laughing so hard at your humor, I can’t catch my breath.

          • jgsoliveira

            Just for you and nobody else, dear Lana: You Tube says he is a Reptilian. Do you agree?

          • lana ward

            Look at his Satan eyes, then you tell me

          • lana ward

            Obama thanks Satan when he is saying yes we can –freaky

          • lana ward

            What are all the scars on his head from???

          • jgsoliveira

            Here you go again. No facts but more conspiracy bs!

          • lana ward

            Why has the DHS stockpiled billions of rounds of ammo? Why are armored trucks and tanks on Americas streets? Why does the DHS have enough body bags for half of the population?? Why has training for Martial Law started?? Why did Obama say, We need a Civilian National Guard Force that is as big and as strong and as well funded as the Defense Dept???

          • jnap

            Back them up with some facts.

          • AdamMos

            Just think only 3 years and 10 months until Hillary. BY then you will also have democratic supermajorities in the House and Senate. The best part is we will have you to thank for it. Keep it up with your racism and conspiracy theories. 1,000 Thank Yous from the Progressives!

          • lana ward

            Brainwashed racist!! 🙂

          • AdamMos

            Thanks again. Every time I read one of ypour posts I make another contribution to the DNC. Keep going you are the gift that never stops giving. What are you going to do in 5 years when the republican party is completely gone?

          • lana ward

            Obama’s ratings are diving–he’ll take the dems with him : )

          • AMADAL

            lana, you should be on stage– l love your sense of humor–so sarcastic. No one in thier right mind could possibly think you are serious.

          • jgsoliveira

            That’s the scary problem. She believes it!

          • jgsoliveira

            Facts please. Enough BS! Independent1 is right. Again, like cevere you have nothing concrete to say. So…./bug off! Get a life! Move out of moms house! Get a job! Brush your teeth! and wipe your buga huga! PLEASE!

          • I’m sorry if you don’t like being called lazy, but if you don’t like that name, then don’t get on this website and start making comments that you can’t back up because you haven’t taken the time to check things out. And for your info: I don’t get my news from one source: I don’t own a TV so I’m on and off of Yahoo News several times a day: I get news feeds via Email from CNN, the Washinton Post, the NY Times and the WSJ. if I read something in the news that’s really interesting, I do some on line searches to follow up and get the latest info.

            So when you come on this thread and make nonsense comments like: Half the US is on some form of welfare (when only about 4% of the country receives welfare), and businesses pay much more in taxes than you or I (when more than 70% of corporations pay absolutely no federal or state taxes), or the whole congress is responsible for the mess we’re in (when it’s 3 GOP presidents that are responsible for more than 90% of our deficits) ; or I don’t like the current administration’s policies (but can’t come up with a single example); or I’m paying more than my fair share of taxes (when no one in the country has been paying their fair share since Bush enacted the tax cuts and our country’s deficits started skyrocketing) it sure becomes pretty clear that you haven’t spent much time checking out what you’re spewing comments about.
            One thing that bothers me is your comment about: anyone with common sense knows that businesses pay more taxes than you and I. That’s so much nonsense that it boggles the mind. Apparently you’re not aware that back in 1986 only about 24% of corporations were able to get away without paying any federal or state income taxes. But by 2008 that number had grown to over 69% – that’s right, over 69% of corporations, many making billions in profits pay nothing in taxes and remember that’s not only federal it’s also to the states. Of the fortune 500, more than 300 of those companies pay NO TAXES. And of the other 200, the average tax rate is 18.3% – do you really think that is fair?? I know many of my friends that pay over 25% and they don’t make anything like billions of dollars. And foreign companies doing business in the US are even worse – more than 72% of them pay NO TAXES to the feds or the states they have offices in.
            So if you don’t want to appear as being lazy – then don’t start opening your mouth about subjects you know virtually nothing about – like Lana Ward, Joeham1, montanabill and a number of other clueless posters on this blog.

          • jgsoliveira

            I apologize for calling you a teenager or high school drop out. I wish you would be more specific on your criticism, however. Telling someone he has too much time on his hand, isn’t that akin to a kind of insult?

          • neeceoooo

            you are a breath of fresh air, thanks

          • idamag

            Independent, sometimes I think the present generation considers ignorance a virtue. Everything that is said and done in Congress is out there on reliable websites.

          • docb

            Hear Hear, independent…It is irksome to see/hear the uninformed drivel spew out of some peoples mouths without merit or proof! The name calling is truly tiresome!

            Well said!

          • jgsoliveira

            Maybe he is a teenager or a high school drop out! Lets put the cards down. I’m 55 years old and due to illness, I retired early as a teacher. Who are you, ceverettham?

          • idamag

            You need to heed Independent’s words. He has done the research. You also need to study what the filibuster is. What it used to be before. How many times it is used to obstruct any positive legislation during Obama’s term.

          • jnap

            Ok, name one single thing that the Federal government is mandating you to do besides paying taxes.

          • Are you a woman? Because only women have had politicans getting to every aspect of their lives and that is the Republicans who want to control women health rights and what can or can’t be done to their bodies. If you are a man what aspect of your life has either party gotten into?

          • jgsoliveira

            Why don’t you answer the man, you tweet?

          • jgsoliveira

            what about the Green Party? Do you like it?

          • jgsoliveira

            Amen!

          • alsoavietnamvet

            We need to have term limits on Congress! If you, or anyone using this media, know how to get a “movement” started, I’m on board (I’ve tried contacting political activists in my city, and some nationally known figures, including Jon Huntsman, but no one returns my calls/e-mails)

          • ceverettham

            I agree with you but everytime terms limits are brought up it falls on deaf ears. I’m sorry I don’t have the answer.

          • What happens if your congressman person is a gem and you don’t want to see them out? There are two sides to the term-limit discussion. Too bad the issue is not so simple as toss the bums out.

          • idamag

            I hope you get an answer from Jon Huntsman. He is the only decent Republican there has been for a long time.

          • alsoavietnamvet

            During the Republican debates, he stated that he was in favor of term limits; that’s why I sent an e-mail to him. After several months, I had not received a reply; I tried, again, but still have not gotten a reply/acknowledgement.

          • idamag

            I think the political representatives forget they were elected to represent the people. I do get answers from my representative. One senator has never answered my letters and the other usually sends a form letter: “Thank you for writing. I always want to know what my constituents think…”

          • Well you sure fooled us!

          • ceverettham

            It was easy.

        • alsoavietnamvet

          Rush Limbaugh, and some Republican members of Congress, call Obama “the food stamp President”. Well, take a look at the states that elected a Republican governor, and see how the use of food stamps INCREASED after the Republican governor took office. The Republicans CAUSE the problem, and BLAME the President!!

          • ceverettham

            I don’t call President Obama the food stamp president. The highest volume of food stamp recipients are Democrat supporters. Every state has Democrats as well as Republicans.

          • Sorry but you’re also very much mistaken on this: not only are more than 70% of food stamp users Republicans, 15 of the 18 states that suck the most welfare dollars from Washington are all Red States; and 8 of the 10 states with the most people living below the poverty level are all Red States. In contrast, the 8 states that not only send the most tax dollars to Washington, in fact the 8 states that are really supporting the country (the states that get back less than $1 for the taxes they pay) are all Blue States. Every single red state gets more tax supporting dollars back than they pay. And why? Because their goofball Republican lelgislators have cut budgets and state services so fast that they’ve thrown millions of their citizens out of work, pushing many onto welfare, and being the single biggest reason that America’s unemployment rate is still above 6 percent. You need to do a little research before you start spouting opinions.

          • jgodiska

            That may be true. But it is the Democrats, that are the workers that are being discharged, not the Republicans. So there would be a leaning of one side.

          • old_blu

            You’re wrong about that the red states take more than they contribute, and it is the other way around for the blue states.
            Now consider the bottom 10, i.e., the ones that give more to the federal government in taxes than they get in return. From 1 to 10, they are:New Jersey, Nevada, Connecticut, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Illinois, Delaware, California, New York, Colorado.
            Anything strange about that list? Yes, they are all blue states (or the deepest of purple).

          • idamag

            Better do some research. The reddest state, Mississippi is the biggest welfare state. My state is a red state and takes more from the Federal Government than other states.

          • So is my state and the people on welfare are the ones voting for the Republicans. I

          • lana ward

            It’s the dems in the red states on food stamps, hell it’s the dems in ALL states on food stamps!!!!

          • alsoavietnamvet

            Lana,
            You, like Paul Ryan, continue to IGNORE the obvious!!! Check the records of newly elected Republican governors, and see how many people lost their jobs and applied for food stamps. Are you saying that ALL of those laid-off workers are democrats?

          • lana ward

            Those who have lost their jobs because of Obamas’ regulations are on food stamps now too. Food stamp enrollment is sky rocketing, earnings are falling, poverty is rising, jobs claims jumping, inflation creeping up, coal plants closing (353) because of Obamas’ enviornmental rules, devastating communities, small banks disapearing. And Ocare. Employees losing hours because employers can’t pay for Ocare. Insurance premiums sky rocketing, employers dumping workers from their healthcare plans and reports predicting trillions in new debt as a result of Ocare-and it hasn’t even taken full effect!!!! This “man” in our WH is destroying America!!!

        • jgodiska

          You have to do some research before you speak. Included in the 47 % are our servicemen overseas, people who do not make a lot of money, those on SS ( remember it is an insurance plan, not a perk of being a US citizen ). Yes things have to be adjusted. But, in reality, there is only 4 % of the population who is on welfare. Not 47 % as they have you believing. Look it up.

        • jgodiska

          Also please do not forget, though the richer folks pay the most in taxes, they pay the least in percentage of their income as the rest of us. And though they may pay 40 % of the taxes, they are collecting 80 % of the money. Keeping their workers down so they can control them.

          • idamag

            For speculators, the tax rate is 15% and with the many loopholes, enjoyed by them, it sometimes comes to 0%.

        • neeceoooo

          I don’t think your calculations are exactly correct; half of the US is not on welfare. According to the statistic brain, 4.1% of the US population gets some kind of government assistant and this is a far cry from half.

          The second part of your statement fails to mention that the majority of these people on welfare are children, veterans, the mentally or physically disabled or senior citizens. What part of this population do you want to take away the funding?

          • idamag

            Good reply. Maybe he wants to initiate a final solution for those who must take subsidies.

        • neeceoooo

          Just so you know, GE paid no taxes in 2010 and yet it is holding $108 billion in profits overseas. This is just one company out of many and this is a practice that the majority of them all participate in.

          The drug company Merck and Johnson & Johnson each saved about $2 million by shifting profits overseas.

          So you still think corporations “pay way more taxes” than you and I? Do your research.

          • ceverettham

            They do pay way more than Americans paying income tax. I don’t agree with all of the tax loopholes that Corporations use to get out of paying taxes. The problem that I see is that when companies loose profit they increase their prices and the working american ends up paying more for products.

          • neeceoooo

            This has nothing to do with loosing profit, it is all about greed.

        • darkagesbegin

          What needs to be done is make employers pay decent wages, stop shipping jobs overseas, stop corporations from hiding money overseas. You don’t get it. What made people and corporations rich were us poor people buying their products and services, and when people don’t have enough money to live on, they don’t spend money on frivolities like new cars, houses, medicine, etc.

          If you want the country to prosper, don’t support trickle down, support trickle up–that is how the country has always worked and how it will always work.

        • AdamMos

          “almost half of the United States is on some form of welfare”
          What are you talking about? SS and Medicare are not welfare programs, I have paid thousands of dollars in taxes for those programs. The real number is about 20% that receive some govt assistance with the majority being on Medicaid which provides health care for children and the elderly. In this country we care for those who are less fortunate. do us a favor either leave or get your shit together and start acting like a human being. By the way the most profitable corporations pay no taxes at all and even get back refundable credits. Maybe we should start by ending the corporate welfare.

        • jnap

          BS, businesses are paying less in taxes than at any time in the last 80 years. Yes we have a theoretical tax of 35% on businesses but the reality is that the average tax paid is 16% after all of the tax loopholes and many businesses pay nothing. Further, businesses are sitting on trillions of dollars of earnings they refuse to spend. I say tax their balls off unless they spend the money in this country for jobs for American workers.

        • plc97477

          yes 47%. too bad you believe romoney

        • jgsoliveira

          Who should he vote for? Himself?

        • Justin Napolitano

          Wrong. As a percentage of taxes collected by the federal Government businesses are paying less than they ever have. The reason is all of the tax loopholes they get.

      • They are already turning over state income taxes in some Republican states. They are saying it will keep jobs in the states and I can’t remember the rest of the reasons for letting companies keep the state income taxes they collect from the employees instead of paying the state the taxes like they are suppose. It is like the employees are being taxed by their employer in order to keep their jobs

        • Sierra111

          Now that is frightening!

        • jgsoliveira

          What is worse than a Republican in Congress? The Billy Willy who voted for them so that Obama will not kill grandma!

  • We have covered this ground already.The American People have spoken and the answer is still the same. NO!!!

  • Rep. Ryan’s budget vision is clear: achieve spending reductions by cutting everybody’s benefits – including our most vulnerable citizens – but the ones he enjoys.
    I believe a combination of additional revenues and spending reductions are needed to accelerate the spending reductions the Obama administration has already achieved by eliminating tax loopholes, subsidies to the oil, pharma, insurance, and agricultural sectors. Suspending foreign aid except for humanitarian aid. Closing obsolete military bases and eliminating or curtailing military programs such as the F35 ($400B) and an additional carrier battle group. We should consider merging government agencies with similar charters, and freeze civil servants salaries for a year. We should also raise the Social Security contribution cap from $106K to $250K to keep it solvent for many more years. MEDICARE eligibility should be means tested, and we should be able to shop for RX across state lines. Most importantly, we must invest in infrastructure, R&D, modernization and education to reduce cost. This may seem like an anachronism, but putting people back to work would reduce unemployment costs and would increase government revenues through taxation, which would result in lower deficits. Never mind the fact that after decades of neglect our infrastructure is in desperate need of repair/upgrade, and that our future depends on how qualified our children are to meet the challenges of the 21st century.
    Ryan’s budget would have a little more credibility if it started with a full disclosure regarding salary and benefit cuts for our elected officials. How about them converting their lavish retirement and benefit plans to SS and MEDICARE?

    • Hi Dominick;
      You made some valid points in your comment.I agree the budget cuts need to start from the top down starting with the upper income people like Ryan. Since he has a problem with tax dollars paying for health insurance he should be the first one to opt out of the medical plan our tax dollars provide for him. I agree with you his retirement and benefit plans should be converted to programs like SS and Medicare so he will understand the real need for them without budget cuts.

      • jnap

        Dawn, as I responded to Dominick, congress has been paying into SS and Medicare since 1983.

        • They also have a pension plan that they do not pay into and that they get after serving 5 syear in Congress. That plan should be done away and no member of should be serving more than 8 years in office with no pension nor lifetime medical care,

          • Members of Congress also contribute to (on top of contributing to SS) either to the Federal Employees Retirement System or to the Civil Service Retirement Program (depending on when they were first elected to Congress – before or after 1983); And they contribute to these plans at a slightly higher rate than other federal employees – these programs are not free for them despite many myths that are being circulated.

        • idamag

          Because they borrowed from the Social Security Trust fund to finance the Viet Nam War. Shouldn’t they pay it back? Social Security has a 2.7 trillion dollar trust fund that someone wants to get their greedy hands on.

          • No such thing ever happened – the SS fund has never been borrowed from – it was only once (in 2010) used via an accounting adjustment to reduce the deficit for that year published to the public. The balance in the fund is currently 2.7 trillion and expected to grow to 3.1 trillion by 2021. Contributions to the fund will continue to exceed payouts for the next 8 years.

    • idamag

      You made the point and it is so simple. Why can’t the masses understand it? If we cut the social safety nets, there will be less consumption and eventually, the corporations will find they can’t subsist without consumers. High employment means greater revenue for the government.

      • AdamMos

        Problem is the corporations no longer need a strong American middle class. Their profits will come from the emerging market countries like China , India, Brazil etc……..So why should they bother concerning themselves with the domestic markets. They do not care about govt revenues. They only care about their future profits. these are the same corporations that fund the Republican money train.

    • nobsartist

      Actually, you have to ask why Dems even listen to this jive ass? This guy deserves NO respect yet I bet you can find plenty of Dems that are considering this.

      The payroll tax should be applied to ALL earnings PERIOD. NO CAP, NO COMPROMISE

      Both parties are too stupid to understand that they should be concentrating on job creation, not cronyism.

      Time for a new third party.

    • jnap

      Dominick, try to get current, Congress has been paying into SS and Medicare since 1983. Medicare should never be means tested because if you have paid into the program your entire working life you should be able to collect when you reach a certain age; 65 in this case. If you give in to means testing then the door opens to get rid of Medicare for people with even a small amount of net worth, forcing those folks to drain their savings just to afford medical insurance. Yes we need jobs but we also must raise the minimum wage. 16 million Americans, many single women with children, earn the minimum wage and are poor by virtually any standard. The minimum wage would have to be $10.50 an hour just to be equal to what it was in the 1980’s after inflation. The rich have enough and it is time for the working person to get a fair share of the pie.

      • Independent1

        Sorry but I disagree with not means testing SS and Medicare too. Mitt Romney and his ilk make their annual SS contributions on their 1st paycheck of the year. A multi-multi millionaire has no need for the measely SS benefit he/she would receive if they already have multi-millions or billions in the bank. If during their working lives, people accumulate staggering fortunes (as Romney, Gates, Buffet, Bloomberg and countless other Americans have done), they should not be receiving SS payments that are like adding 10 cents to a normal persons income each year. It’s absurd.

      • Independent1

        I forgot to mention that I’d means test SS on an annual basis, so that if someone who was means-tested at retirement and was denied benefits because of their already high annual income (say over $200,000), could later qualify if they hit on hard times and their income fell below the $200,000 threshold. When FDR envisoned Social Security, he envisioned it as a safety net for people who would otherwise struggle to make ends meet after retirement. He did not envision SS as supplemental income for people who already should be able to live comfortably in retirement which I would assume someone earning over 200,000/yr should be able to do, given that $200,000 is around 4 times what the average working American manages to survive on today. (And maybe I’m even high with the $200,000.)

  • JDavidS

    One of the definitions of insanity is to keep doing the same thing over and over and expect different results. I guess we can safely assume Ryan is certifiably insane. What truly amazes me is that he is allowed to wander around without a leash. God I wish he’d just crawl back under whatever rock he once called home. Even his sleazy looks annoy me.

    • I’m sorry but I loathe that face! He looks like a used car salesman, all pinched up, pointy nose and all!

      • JDavidS

        Madelaine, you’re obviously a woman of impeccable taste! Cheers.

      • jgodiska

        Ryan looks like “Jeebs” of he Men in Black.

      • And don’t forget those damned beady eyes.

        • lana ward

          Yes, Obamas’ eyes are evil and dead looking!!!!!!

      • lana ward

        I hate Obamas face too!! Especally when it smells and attracts flies

        • JDavidS

          lana, lay down the crack pipe , read the posts, respond accordingly and then try to keep up with the tour. Failing this, go back to playing with your crayons.

      • idamag

        He looks like he thinks he is cute.

      • idamag

        Ryan looks like he should have a black cape with a big collar and a red lining.

  • David Turrentine

    Privitization is a move towards Corporatocracy, a form of anarchy which has no rules and harms everyone outside the corporate structure.

  • latebloomingrandma

    Ryan’s “vision” seems hell bent on turning the USA into a plutocracy. Everything is privatized and placed under the profit motivation. Then we are “free” to shop for what ever we want. The old expression –you have to spend money to make money—doesn’t work for people who have no money. So—you are free to be poor. No money for higher education. No money for health care. What a vision! As corporations get bigger and acquire more power, they control all the jobs, working conditions and wages. If we abdicate our government—We the people—who can VOTE for our leaders, to the corprate world, what is our power against that? NOTHING ! They then hold all the cards. You’re fired! For those who thing our government is evil, think again. At least we can criticize and hold our elected officials’ feet to the fire. Ever try to criticize your boss or CEO? Chances are there is way for them to downsize you out. I truly think our country dodged a bullet by defeating Romney/Ryan. Someone needs to place a stake right into the heart of Ryan’s phony, immoral “budget.”

  • screw the poor and the middle class out of their social secutity and let the rich get richer
    that is the republican way.
    just sick of their antics.

    • TZToronto

      It’s not about the rich getting richer. It’s about ruling over those who are not in the chosen elite. It looks like the days of “Let them eat cake!” have returned. And we know what happened to Marie and King Louie.

      • I’m sharpening the blade.

        • TZToronto

          Try not to cut your finger.

          • neeceoooo

            abd let me keep my fingers out of they way as well

      • idamag

        And, it was the wide chasm between rich and poor that brought about the French Revolution.

        • plc97477

          you would think the powers that be would not be happy with what happened to louis and marie. Would be a good reason to talk about gun control.

  • Michael

    Ok… reading the avalanche of bitter vitriol coming from the liberal comments criticizing the Republican Budget proposals here… I am wondering why you have no problem with the reality that President Obama and the Democrat controlled Senate have not passed or even approved of a single budget bill in over 4 years… The last budget proposal the President sent to the Senate didn’t get a single vote… I also want to point out that budgets are passed by the house, then, discussed and amended by the senate and back and forth till an agreement is hammered out… That is the process… However, the Senate, controlled by the Dems, refuses to even discuss the budgets the house passed… Who are the obstructionist here???

    • You’re very much mistaken Michael, Obama has submitted a budget to the House every year on schedule, by February 1st, but Boehner has chosen to sit on it because he knew full well that with the makeup of the House it was going to go nowhere. If you don’t think Obama created one for this year, log onto whitehouse dot gov and take a look at the more than 200 pages of Obama’s budget. And tell me something, what good were the last, let’s see, 8+8+4 = 20 budgets from Reagan and the 2 Bushes that weren’t worth one cent, regardless of the millions of dollars in legislator’s time that taxpayers paid for in passing them because they were all SHAMS???? Yes, every GOP budget since Reagan took office was a SHAM!! None of them included more than 50-75% of the monies that these presidents actually spent. And everyone of these presidents was one of the biggest drunken sailor spenders in American history. Reagan leads the pack with 8.7% per year average budget increase each and every one of the 8 disasterous years he was in office; followed closely by Bush jr. who averaged 8.3%/yr budget increases for his disasterous 8 years in office; and even Bush Sr. ranks high on the list with 5.6%/yr average budget increases. Clinton was much lower at 2.1%yr and he succeeded in governing with 3 straight years of surplus budgets. But leader of the pack, the recent president with the lowest average budget increases during the past 4 years with a MINUS 1.4% budget increases; while cutting spending for the past 3 years (1st time spending has been cut for 3 straight years since Truman did it after WWII), and also cutting it the fastest since WWII. (Actually, I forgot to mention that budgets were actually passed in 09 & 10 before the GOP retook controll of the House in January 2011).

      • mah101

        As a former Federal employee, I can recall spending a great deal of time working on the annual budget that eventually became part of the President’s budget proposal. I used to joke that we would spend months agonizing over the priorities, projects and numbers, send it on up the chain to become part of the President’s budget submitted to Congress, then Congress would put it on a shelf and make up their own…

        And this is under Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II

    • mah101

      Who are the obstructionists? Simple. The House GOP for continuing to pass laws that they KNOW can not pass the Senate because they stick to such an ideologically extreme position and equate compromise with failure to uphold their priniciples.

    • TZToronto

      Does someone watch Fox?

    • idamag

      Number one: We cannot trust every legislator who is of our own party. I am apolitical. Number two: Read up on the filibuster which has been misused to the point of it seeming more like mafia tactics.

      • Yup! more than 400 times in 2 years. A little excessive??

  • mah101

    “His voice is the high-pitched drone of a generation of termites, voraciously consuming the nation’s foundations”

    I think that about says it all.

  • I wrote this yesterday and I’m going to repeat it today: Freddie Munster’s “budget” proves two foundational points….first, it proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the GOP’s governing philosophy of, “screw the poor, middle class, elderly, disabled, women, children and minorities, the wealthy and big corporations need more money and power!” Second, it proves all of the 10 Tenets of the Republican Party: bigotry, hypocrisy, elitism, fascism, corruption, greed, incompetence, arrogance, insanity and comedy.
    I could ramble on further pointing out why his “budget” proves the governing philosophy and the Ten Tenets, but that would be akin to “beating a dead horse”….(for instance, the US House taking a 35th vote for repeal Obamacare–smh)

    • jgsoliveira

      Amen!

  • mah101

    Makes you long for a parliamentary system where we could have a vote of No Confidence, kick these bums out, and start over again.

    The founding fathers really screwed up by not allowing the people to impeach Congress.

    • TZToronto

      Sadly, the vote of non-confidence would not work. Such a vote is either for or against the government’s position, usually on a money-related issue. Who is the government in this case? The President? No. Congress? No. Who gets voted out when there’s a non-confidence vote? The best we can do is, as the electorate, to vote these corporate shill wannabe dictators out of office in 2014.

      • mah101

        My despondence deepens…

        • plc97477

          stiff upper lip. put on a smile.

  • Jill49

    I keep wondering why anyone would hold Paul Ryan out as a finance or economics guru. I believe he was a business and marketing major in college — hardly enough to be considered an expert in math sciences, finances or economics. His a fake it til you make it kind of guy.

    • You are right about that Jill. I didn’t understand why he was on the ballot for the Vice Presidency during the last election until I found out that his Daddy in law is wealthy. As far as I am concerned he is not doing his job by editing an old budget authored by someone else and passing it off as new. We will not get what we deserve until we give a few elected officials the boot.

      • Dawn, the Koch brothers bought him the vice president slot by saying they would give a hugh donation to the Republicans if they picked him which they did after he got the vice president slot.

    • He studied to become a lawyer is what I read about him.

  • bob shipp

    I have known people like Ryan all my life. Their self chosen disconnect with the realities of most citizens, workers/wage earners, parents and grandparents and their disappointing quest for a part of the “American Dream” is an astonishingly pathetic commentary on our governance or lack of it. What a douchebag!

  • sleeprn01

    Dear ceverettham, After all of the rhetoric you still did not supply an answer to your assertion that the Obama administration has interfered/intervened into your life. How so???

  • empiremed

    Senator Patty Murray, the Democratic chair of the Senate Budget Committee, finally released a budget today. Year over year, in this proposed budget, spending jumps dramatically.

    For instance, from this year’s budget to next year’s proposed budget, spending would increase by $116 billion. This year, the federal government will spend $3.599 trillion; under Murray’s budget, the federal government would be on track to spend $3.715 trillion.

    Over the next decade, spending under Murray’s budget would increase by 62 percent. Here’s a chart from the Republican side of the Senate Budget Committee detailing the increase in spending over the next decade:

  • AdamMos

    That is a nice dream you are having. Even if his ratings were falling (they arent) it would not matter – he was already re elected. The fact is that people are not going vote away their own benefits. They will vote to cut other peoples benefits or raise other peoples taxes but not their own. Apparently Ryan does not get it. Why would anybody go on record to privatize ss, medicare and repeal affordable health insurance for all. That is political suicide. Why go on record with extremely unpopular proposals that will never come to be. How stupid is that. At age 41 politcally he is already a has been. He may keep his house seat for another couple of terms but he has gone as far as he will ever go. His best years are already behind him. What a moron.

    • plc97477

      And it almost seems a disservice to morons to equate them.

  • this moron has no clue. should live what I do. he spends more in a month than I have to live on for a year. he is dangerous to the poor people

  • july860

    Ok, I think it is time to get REAL mad; this “my way or the highway” bullshit has got to STOP!!! I am sick of people trying to take away safety nets for our most vulnerable citizens, only to line the pockets of their donors (and themselves). We do need to start petitioning the repubs to DO THEIR JOBS (e.g., work for ALL AMERICANS)! Sorry for all the caps, but I am pissed off now!

  • jgsoliveira

    What happened to Pinochio every time he lied? See the resemblance?