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Tuesday, September 27, 2016

VOTING RIGHTS ACT

  • Catskinner

    It probably made sense to pass the voting rights act in the first place, but it should never have been renewed, and it’s long since outlived it’s usefulness. It’s being used now to promote voter fraud.

    • tobyspeeks

      Seriously? How many charges and convictions for voter fraud have there been? All of it sucks, but the amount is so infinitesimally small it has no bearing on the results of any election with more than 1000 people voting. Quit FOX, get off your couch and go outside. You’ll find there’s a real world out there.

      • Russell Byrd

        In the minds of people like Catskinner, there has to be a mass of voter fraud that we are failing to detect for no other reason than they want it that way. Of course, criminals usually see other criminals around every corner.

      • Catskinner

        Actually, if they’d counted all of the votes in the 2008 Minnesota Senate race, and had disqualified all of the illegal votes. The results tell us that Coleman would have won re-election. The problem was all of the research could not have been completed before the election was ratified, so Franken was awarded the Senate seat.
        The Dornan/Sanchez House seat might have turned out the same way, but investigators quit counting when it became clear that they might prove the House seat had been awarded to the wrong candidate.
        Has nothing to do with Fox. A few votes can make a difference.

    • Russell Byrd

      The only voter fraud is the attacks your kind is making on it. Please, and in detail. explain why it should never be renewed and why it promotes voter fraud. The only people that want, or need, that law repealed are the racists.

      • Catskinner

        The term “Racists” has been used so often and so inappropriately, it doesn’t seem to mean much anymore. Why would if be racist to expect honest and open elections?

        • Russell Byrd

          That is a slogan to cover your real racist motives. As well, “Racists” does not mean anything to you, because you choose not to adhere to common decency anyway. “Open and honest elections” are what we have anyway. Oh yeah, maybe I should have taken into account, “Gerrymandering.” As has been said repeatedly, there is almost no detectable voter fraud. Though both sides are guilty, most of the fraud is committed by the Conservacon side anyway. The “open and honest elections” is just a smoke screen to find another little way to convince the poor and minorities, or even just tired and depressed people that voting is too much trouble. (There is an interesting study on that.) You know full well that none of your target groups have any reason to vote for the wing-ding party. People of conscience do not vote for the Pubs!

          Just because you can wave your crazy-train magic wand, does not create voter fraud that never existed. Again, the problem you want to correct does not exist. Again, does not exist! Therefore, there is nothing major that needs to be corrected and this is a NON-argument. Existing laws and regulations need to be refined and enforced, but we do not need to turn the whole house on its end. Well, maybe you do, as the right-wing is a dying breed, if for no other reason than its racism, misogyny, and allergy to the truth. Demographics will drive this process and there is little you can do about it. UNLESS, you learn to embrace diversity. AND, a racist can’t or won’t do that. . . .

    • jarheadgene

      REALLY ???!!! Because everywhere else but FOX news they showed those that have committed Voter Fraud……all were REPUBLICANS trying their hardest to get The BULLY Romney elected. Stop listening to Sean Hannity and Rush Limblaugh…..both big blowhards totally bought and paid for.

      • Catskinner

        Bought and paid for, you mean like the reason Obama opposes the Key Stone Pipeline.

        • Allan Richardson

          If he opposes it, it’s not because he is “bought” by someone who hopes to make money by NOT having the pipeline; the people who have the money to “buy” politicians are the people who WANT the pipeline, and will not even own up to the spills that have made thousands of homes uninhabitable with the EXISTING pipelines.

          • Catskinner

            Tom Steyer, a major Obama political donor, stands to make billions by backing an opposing pipeline, but he’ll lose out if Keystone goes on through.

        • Mark Forsyth

          The pollution caused by tar sand oil production in Alberta has already caused the deaths of many Native people in the town of Ft.Chippewyan,directly downstream from holding ponds full of undisclosed “proprietary’ chemicals,sludge,and wastewater used in the tar sand oil extraction process.The people can no longer swim in or drink the water there.They cannot eat the fish nor can they consume any game from the area because it is all contaminated.The people who died contracted rare forms of cancer and other disease never before seen in Northern Alberta much less anywhere else.
          That pipeline has been shown repeatedly that it’s implementation is capable of delivering death and destruction from Alberta to Arkansas.No one thrives on death and destruction but obviously neither you or the oil magnates give a damn.

    • SaneJane

      Cat, I live in Alabama and must point out that you don’t know what you are talking about. Don’t you read national news? Attempts at voter suppression may not be rampant in your own backyard but your denial of their existence in mine exposes your ignorance of current reality.

      • Allan Richardson

        I am sure it IS in his own backyard, but he approves of it, or does not notice. Combining minority precincts so that, even if they CAN get a ride, ten times the voters have to use half the machines, while mostly white suburban precincts have more machines, giving the poll workers enough time to read Gone With The Wind while waiting for voters. That is the REAL voter fraud: a fraud ON the voters.

    • S.J. Jolly

      “Voter fraud” meaning, “We lost?!? There must have been voter fraud !!!”

      Also, a famous line from The Adams Family TV series, Gomez Adams: “Yes, there was ballot fraud. Unfortunately, the other side caught it in time.”

    • WhutHeSaid

      Care to try to prove any of your whoppers? Tell us about your vast knowledge about voter fraud, and don’t forget to use some actual verifiable facts in the process. I’ll wait here for your informative reply.

  • Russell Byrd

    The cartoon kind of sums up the real motivation for the Supreme Court case. The result of this “test case” is the Supreme Court failed.

  • jarheadgene

    SHAME …..SHAME ….SHAME…on “Uncle” Clarence “T[h]om”as. He should be ALL over the other JUSTICES proclaiming the wrong here. Dr. King is looking down on him with such saddness.

  • Allan Richardson

    Having people try to vote illegally is the LEAST efficient way to win an election, and once those people are in jail, it will not work again. The “voter fraud” alarmists are the ones who are covering up for making it harder for LEGITIMATE voters to continue voting by putting the new ID out of their financial and practical reach. Florida tried to get citizens who had been voting for years, fully naturalized, and in some cases due to “mistakes”, American BORN voters who did not even have “foreign” sounding names (the criteria used to compile the list), to RE-prove their citizenship JUST BEFORE the last election. Once you have proven your citizenship ONCE, that should be enough.

  • CrankyToo

    It seems you just can’t find a Repugnican who isn’t a scumbag. Not even on the Supreme Court.

    I am 100% certain that the GOP will overwhelm legislatures in states they control with new legislation designed to further restrict minority voting. In this regard, 2014’s going to be a lot worse than 2012 was.

    But this battleship’s already turning. The GOP war on democracy has stirred the sleeping giants that are the minority voting blocs. Grass roots organizations are going to be popping up all over the country, determined to get eligible minority voters to polling places at every election, and at every level – Local, State and Federal.

    And It’ll be a generation before black folk, Hispanics, LGBTs, union members, youth voters and other disaffected Americans forget how shamefully the Greedy Old Pricks have treated them over the course of the last three decades. And that’s if they start rehabilitating their brand right now today – which of course they won’t because they’re just not interested in prudent governance.

    Thus, I predict that by 2020, the Republican Party will be nationally insignificant. Between now and then, Democrats will be knocking these dirtbags out of their seats by the fistful. Also by 2020:

    1. Our first woman president, a Democrat, will be sitting at the Resolute Desk;

    2. The Democrats will have regained control of the House (because gerrymandering alone will not save the Repugnicans). Ergo, our Federal government will be reunited, and finally ready to start acting in our REAL national interests; and

    3. Many states which are currently infested with rats will have recognized the failure of the Tea Party experiment and restored control of their statehouses and legislatures back to Democrats. As surely as they were swept in, the wretches will be swept back out.

    All that should happen just in time for the 2020 census, after which event the gerrymandering problems precipitated by the 2010 elections will be corrected.

    And we’ll all live happily ever after. Except those homophobic, xenophobic, racist, avaricious, ignorant and sexually repressed vermin which are commonly known as Tea Party Repugnicans.

    All that to say this: Repugnicans will rue this Supreme Court decision, just as many now rue Citizen’s United.

  • Mark Forsyth

    Years ago,the late great Woody Guthrie had a message on his guitar that read “This machine kills fascists” I think we should too!

  • highpckts

    Seriously? Is anyone surprise?? Now the red states can have at it!

  • DurdyDawg

    I think we should ban voting altogether and place a death penalty on anyone who assumes or are selected to power by anyone.. Let’s see how they’re gonna screw us in office now. then all we have to do is eradicate all lawyers which would include SCOTUS. Then if a country or corporation or even the military wants their welfare checks they’ll first have to convince each and every citizen that they deserve it.. then create a workable tax law that everybody can live with that will create prosperity throughout America.. Help the poor and needy while putting them to work on the betterment of our parks and forests. (I know, it’s a pipe dream but it’s my pipe dream).. dictated (and edited) to my grandpa by his grand daughter.. (gp added the lawyer clause).

    • CrankyToo

      Am I the only one scratching his head over this comment by DurdyDawg and wondering which one of these two is the brains of the family? I’m thinking it’s the granddaughter – and she’s about five years old…

      • DurdyDawg

        She’s exactly five years old and if you can’t figure it out then obviously your age and mentality do no match.. Much like a dim wit in an adult suit. If I or my grand daughter want to express our opinion that’s our right without any criticism from you or any one else.. I don’t have a problem with your opinions don’t make it a task to say mine or my grand daughters isn’t worthy. that only shows your stupidity.

        • CrankyToo

          I’ve spent a goodly portion of my (nearly) 62 years travelling the world. I’ve had two successful careers – one practicing a variety of military security disciplines, and the other as an information technologies analyst. I’m very well educated and highly intelligent.

          And here you are, some moron using a 5-year-old child as a ventriloquist dummy to spout inane rhetoric about banning voting, killing office-holders, and taking away Uncle Sugar’s checkbook – and you’re calling me a dimwit! You’ve got some nerve, Dawg; no brains, but plenty of nerve.

          You are correct in your assertion that you (and your granddaughter) have every right to espouse your opinions. My 20 years of service in the armed forces of the United States have helped to guaranty that right. But contrary to your statement, you DO NOT have the right to espouse those opinions without criticism because, just as you’re free to talk like a dumbass, I’m free to espouse my opinion that you are, in fact, a dumbass. You see, that’s how this whole principle of “Freedom of Speech” actually works.

          If you absolutely can’t stand being told the truth (i.e. that you’re an idiot), then instead of hanging your dumb ass out over the balcony for all the world to see, you ought to STFU!

          • DurdyDawg

            Then piss on you and your 20 year stint.. I had five and I feel just as privileged too have served my country.. People like you can’t seem to accept anyone but their own ilk. Me and my grand daughter say ta ta to bigoted asses like you .. There ! How’s THAT for freedom to criticized.. Asshole!

          • CrankyToo

            Are you trying to say you “served” five years in one of our armed forces? I doubt that that’s the case since none of our services offer a five year term of enlistment. Moreover, what veteran has ever expressed his term of service with the phrase “I had”? I “had” five years? I’m pretty sure the only five you “had” was years of high school. In other words, you’re full of shit, grandpa.

            Getting back to your original comment, if your granddaughter actually thinks the things you suggest she does, then you need to get that child to an exorcist before her head starts spinning. And you also need to stop filling her mind with thoughts of murder, you POS.

            One last thing, butt wipe, if you think I could ever be offended by the likes of a cretin like yourself, then you really are delusional.