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Saturday, September 24, 2016

WATCH: Ryan Says 30 Percent Want ‘Welfare State’ Instead Of American Dream

Paul Ryan has criticized Mitt Romney’s infamous denigration of 47 percent of Americans as “obviously inarticulate,” but a recently uncovered video shows Ryan making a nearly identical argument — with just a 17 percent difference in the number of “victims.”

Ryan Grim of The Huffington Post has uncovered a speech that Ryan gave to The American Spectator‘s Robert L. Bartley Gala Dinner in 2011, in which Ryan trashes the 30 percent of Americans who he says want the welfare state instead of the American Dream:


“Before too long, we could become a society where the net majority of Americans are takers, not makers,” Ryan said in the speech.

“The good news is survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center-right 70-30 country,” he continued. “Seventy percent of Americans want the American Dream. They believe in the American idea. Only 30 percent want the welfare state.”

Ryan’s comments are slightly more Randian than Romney’s — the line about “takers” and “makers” especially calls Ryan’s conveniently discarded idol to mind — but they are just as condescending and inaccurate. As Rick Ungar points out in Forbes, Ryan’s polls and surveys showing that 30 percent of Americans don’t want to achieve the American Dream are nowhere to be found.

Ryan has clearly not moderated his views in the 11 months since giving the speech; on Tuesday, he explained that his answer to America’s 47 percent “problem” is to “help them get jobs so they can get good paychecks and then they’re good taxpayers.” This is logical advice coming from Ryan, given that his budget plan strives to gut programs that seniors, military veterans, and other “victims” of the 47 (or 30) percent rely on.

Of course, it’s not surprising that Ryan and Romney share a dismissive view of a large segment of the American people; as National Memo Editor-in-Chief Joe Conason noted after Romney’s 47 percent remarks came to light, there’s strong circumstantial evidence that they both borrowed their elitist rhetoric from the same right-wing pundit.

Ryan’s entire speech to the Robert L. Bartley Gala Dinner can be seen here.

  • jcbsdriver

    This is a commonly held belief in republican circles. Bush and Cheney called this group “the walking dead”. Romney says this group in not personally responsible. Different words, same demeaning and insulting message. Ryan considers 30% of the population not wanting the american dream, Romney talks of the 47% who feel entitled. The truth is this group contains everyone who is in the middle class, the poor and seniors on SS and Medicare.
    I refuse to vote or show any support for any candidate that has this much contempt and disdain for American citizens.

  • bcarreiro

    The american dream starts with a vision (base) then we encorporate trust in anyone who is willing to work with us to make a better living in the place. we are not percentages we are people!!!

  • If there is a lesson to be learned from the first debate is that what Republican candidates say on the stump during rallies to the faithful is not the same as what they say to a national audience. I expect Paul Ryan to do a 180 during his debate.

  • montanabill

    Why don’t you use Howard Stern’s Man on the Street interviews to prove your point?

  • sadie1ne

    Ryan is just another republican A–Hole. Do your job with congress instead of bad mouthing people who have no jobs. How many republican pols. have interest oversees. There are no jobs for college grads, and returning servicemen. Quit talking and do something.

  • Linda Thorp

    I love how he thinks our “dependency” on “governement” is like we’re asking Daddy for our allowance. No. We pay in, and WE decide what priorities to pay out. Government is GIVING anything to me…it’s supporting what matters….PEOPLE. If that means, some get a benefit that I don’t, then I am OK with that. We will always have poor people and NEED. I BLEIEVE in NO ONE being hungry and sick. Silly me….I am morally bankrupt, according to this yahoo. That makes me a BAD AMERICAN to actually CARE about the social welfare of PEOPLE. THE GOVERNMENT is you and me. Don’t let them turn it in to some corporate panel of invisible MEN IN BALCK while they pat us on the head and say, “It’s too complicated to understand. But if you wnat a lifestyle like mine?….Care about what *I* say to care about.” It’s a re-packaged “prosperity gospel,” and the oldest pyramid scheme in the book.

    • phantomoftheopera

      what galls me is that they don’t see the ‘dependency’ of the rich on tax breaks as negative! they claim that, until the bush tax cuts are permanent (and lowered, i guess) no one feels ‘comfortable’ creating jobs or investing in things that will create jobs. these people aren’t hungry, or homeless, or sick without health care, but just want more and more and more. guess i’m morally bankrupt too. (along with jesus, who wanted the poor fed, clothed, and housed and warned the rich!)

      • …and they seem to be unaware of the fact that a large percentage of MEDICAID, welfare, SSI, WIC and food stamp recipients are Republicans!

  • Mr. Ryan, back up your careless statement with the facts. I do not think you can. I am tired of your lies.

  • sachfoxo

    Paul Ryan has criticized Mitt Romney’s infamous denigration of 47 percent of Americans as “obviously inarticulate,” but a recently uncovered video shows Ryan making a nearly identical argument — with just a 17 percent difference in the number of “victims.”

    Ryan Grim of The Huffington Post has uncovered a speech that Ryan gave to The American Spectator‘s Robert L. Bartley Gala Dinner in 2011, in which Ryan trashes the 30 percent of Americans who he says want the welfare state instead of the American Dream:

    Of course, it’s not surprising that Ryan and Romney share a dismissive view of a large segment of the American people; as National Memo Editor-in-Chief Joe Conason noted after Romney’s 47 percent remarks came to light, there’s strong circumstantial evidence that they both borrowed their elitist rhetoric from the same right wing pundit. Ryan Says 30 Percent Want ‘Welfare State’ Instead Of American Dream !!!!

  • S-3

    There is nor was no such thing as the American Dream – only those who are naive and stupid still believe this.

    This is why I’m for violent revolution… Every single damn day. Whether Obama wins or otherwise, I’m staying armed and aware!

  • Ed

    You mean a welfare state like CONGRESS lives in? OOOOORAAAHHHH!

  • Hey Ryan how about all the years you, your siblings and your mom drew survivors benefits from Social Security all your dad died? You are not including yourself, your siblings and your mom in the 30% that you say don’t want the American Dream. You should since from what I have researched and found out all of you were left a great deal of money when your Dad died because the company he was a partner in had made him a wealthy man, yet no one in the family turned down the survivor’s benefits, so you are more of a taker than any one of the 30% you talk so badly about.

  • B__S

    Most people don’t survive the ‘dream’…because they change. He is an IDIOT!

  • ayayaboy

    I am angry with Obama why he could not tell Romney to stop lying to the American people. .. Remind Romney of all his claims during the Republican primaries. We all know that Romney is a liar and a fraud but Obama needed to say it to his face. One day Romney will repeal Dodd-Frank, another time Romney would praise the good things in Dodd-frank. Romney will tell Tea party that he will repeal Obamney care before the cock crows thrice, romney would say that there are lots of good things in Obamacare. Romney will tell Republican audience that Hispanic illegals must self-deport but will on TV debate say “we cannot round up people on the street”, but Romney is a big supporter of Arizona hostility against Hispanics. Romney proposes voucher system but says it will kick in after our generation. Why can’t Obama tell Romney to say how to handle present and not things of 30th century. Why can’t Obama tell Romney in his face that he had opportunities to create jobs with Bain but he instead fired people and made money firing people; he shipped jobs overseas; sent out his money to offshore when America needed cashflow; he is not coming clear about his career at Bain Capital; he is yet to prove his trustworthiness and fiscal patriotism with his tax returns; ask Romney whether he also supports Planned Parenthood today since he seemed to talk liberalism on debate floor? Ask Romney that he today sounds like anti-Tea party and anti-Arizona governor. How about asking Romney if he really doesn’t want to be president of the 47% welfare victims who will vote Obama? With these, Obama would have won the election that wednesday night. I travelled to Europe and watched the debate in a Bar and the Europeans said Obama left his supporters biting their fingers … Is this Obama or someone else? Some said Obama missed an opportunity to call out Romney-the-liar; others said Obama allowed the liar lie his way through the debate. Some European poked fun at Obama’s performance saying “a Havard lawyer could not argue his case against a fake businessman.” Obama must step up to revealing the rhetoric fakeness of Romney.

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