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The mass shooting in Las Vegas, the largest in U.S. history, has left 59 dead and more than 500 injured. Now, thanks to the deceptively named Sportsmen’s Heritage and Recreational Enhancement Act, the Republican Party appears hell-bent on making the next massacre that much deadlier.

The new legislation, which is wending its way through Congress, would make it harder for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives to designate bullets as “armor-piercing,” thereby allowing consumers to purchase ammunition that can penetrate the protective vests police officers wear. (Shows you how much Republicans think blue lives matter when NRA dollars are at stake.) Under the law, bullets that can puncture body armor would still be legal to sell, so long as the manufacturer is careful to declare the ammunition is made for “sporting purposes.”

Rob Bishop, the Utah Republican who introduced the legislation, states on his website, “The Founding Fathers were clear when they drafted the Bill of Rights….Vagaries in today’s legal code pose a real threat to the right to keep and bear arms. The Obama Administration exploited this ambiguity to forward its agenda of restriction. It’s time to ensure no future Administration tramples on these freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution.”

Along with the armor-piercing ammo provision, the bill would make it far easier for criminals to purchase gun silencers. Politico notes that under the 1934 National Firearms Act, silencers have been “treated similarly to machine guns or explosives.” The so-called SAFE Act would lift prohibitions on silencers, which, when used, make it far more difficult to hear the source of a shooting. Republicans are attempting to sell the bill as a way to protect hunters’ hearing, though most hunters say earplugs work just fine.

“What it does is it disperses the sound, so you can’t identify where the sound is coming from,” Mike Thompson, a California Democrat and self-professed “avid hunter” told the San Francisco Chronicle. “It puts both law enforcement and the public at risk.”

“The National Rifle Association thinks Congress owes them more armor-piercing rounds and gun silencers on the streets, and today our Republican colleagues showed they’re happy to do what they’re told,” Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-AZ) told Politico earlier this month. “I’ve been here since 2003, and passing these bills in the name of ‘helping sportsmen’ is one of the most cynical excuses I’ve ever heard.”

The Chronicle notes that in addition to making gun laws even more lax, the new legislation would “loosen restrictions on hunting and shooting on public lands”:

“It would, for example, reverse an Obama administration ban on lead tackle and ammunition from most federal lands; amend the Migratory Bird Treaty Act to allow shooting of birds over unharvested cropland; ease fishing restrictions in marine sanctuaries; remove Endangered Species Act protections for Great Lakes gray wolves; and ban the purchase of new wetland and bird habitat.”

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi pointed out the absurdity of the GOP’s efforts to sell the legislation as a bill for hunters.

“Hunters need armor-piercing bullets? They need silencers?” she told the Chronicle. “They need to conceal and carry to hunt?”

The SAFE Act is one of a pair of gun bills expected to move through Congress in the coming months. The Chronicle also highlights the Concealed Carry Reciprocity Act of 2017, which “would allow people to carry concealed weapons in any state if it is allowed in the state where they live [and]…undermine regulations in states such as California and New York that require applicants for such a permit to demonstrate a need and submit to background checks.”

Basically, the law would make a concealed carry license as easy to obtain as a driver’s license.

While Republican members of Congress would have you believe the only people opposed to the SAFE Act are coastal elites and their elected representatives, many police officers have voiced their concern about the law. Back in March, the National Law Enforcement Partnership to Prevent Gun Violence released a statement noting that, “the primary target for silencer manufacturers has been military tactical teams who use silencers to confuse the sound of gunfire and confound an enemy’s response to surprise attack.”

A House hearing on the SAFE Act was originally set to place in June, but was delayed after House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot during a congressional baseball practice.

Kali Holloway is a senior writer and the associate editor of media and culture at AlterNet.

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  1. FireBaron October 4, 2017

    “The Founding Fathers were clear when they drafted the Bill of Rights” That is correct, Representative Bishop. That is why they specifically prefaced the Amendment with the words “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state”.
    In no way does this proposal have anything to do with maintaining a “well regulated militia”. As some members of the GOP insist on Strict Constructionism, here is a history lesson:
    At the time of the drafting of the Constitution, Congress did not want a standing army. Many believed that this would lead to suppression of rights. Realistically, it meant they believed if a Northerner won the Presidency he would order the Army into Slave States and forcibly manumit them. Yeah, they were really rednecks back then, too!
    Anyway, each municipality required all able-bodied men, aged 16 to 60, to attend mandatory militia drill on the Town Green after Sunday Services. They elect their officers and NCOs, and report to the Adjutant, usually a Colonel in the Regular Army appointed to oversee military affairs in the State. In turn, these militias could be called out by the respective Governors to handle local needs, and could be nationalized by act of Congress. Until the aftermath of the Civil War, 90% of the Army in the US were Militias. The only active Army units were stationed on the Frontiers to protect the Railroads and Telegraphs. Oh, yeah, and if they had the time they were supposed to show up to protect settlers from Indian raids. Normally, this only happened if it coincided with protecting said railroads and telegraphs.
    Even after the Civil War, with the exception of additional garrison troops in the old Confederacy, until WWII, most of the Army units in the country were State Militias, now operating under the term “National Guard”.
    So, yes. The Framers knew exactly what they were doing when they set up the 2nd Amendment. That was before there were police departments and a full time Army.

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    1. PatrickHenry October 4, 2017

      The thing about a Well Regulated Militia is, without having Arms to Bear First, there wouldn’t be any Militia.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker October 4, 2017

        You are NOT an appointed regulated militia. But as usual, you lawless bastards all ignore that single word in the 2nd Amendment: REGULATED.

        Just like you hate the government to regulate your ability to cheat others and shoot just for fun in public, you hate the idea that you have to admit there are other parts of the US Constitution that clearly outline WHO AND HOW militias are regulated.

        A ‘well regulated militia” is paid for by we the taxpayers. Not you the individual gun owner who pretends to be a self proclaimed “militia.”

        A “well regulated militia, according to the U.S. Constitution is called up for the protection of the country. Not the protection of you individual gun addicts. And, a well regulated militia is “called up” by the government.

        Funny how you phony dicks ignore Article I, Sec. 8 of the US Constitution to whit: Congress shall have the power to provide for organizing, arming and disciplining the Militia and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority for training the Militia accorcing to the discipline prescribed BY CONGRESS.

        Enough with your right wing distortions of your 2nd Amendment rights. You have NO right to open carry any military style assault weapon in public. You morons just hate having to face the reality of what a Militia is. And you are not it.

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        1. idamag October 4, 2017

          20 children and 6 adults lost their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness at Sandy Hook. 59 people lost their right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness in Las Vegas.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

            PatrickHenry is another Russian paid troll. If you check his stats, you see he hides his true ID.

            It’s kind of sad that we real patriotic Americans must now be as astute about these hackers as the FBI or CIA.

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        2. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

          Hey man-hater. Who did our Founders ask to form a Militia, the British? Hey Britain, we want to start a Revolution, can you regulate us the Right to Bear Arms? What ignorant fools you are.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker October 9, 2017

            Wow, if I thought you mindless, classless hicks were all so stupid, your post proves it. Here phony boy, I live in one of the first 13 states to be settled by the English, many of whom were your white indentured slaves who owed Britain huge debt and were shipped to the “new world” to fend for themselves.

            As the COLONIAL history “I” and not you grew up as part our state’s roots, those Pilgrims boarded English ships due to the English enforcement of religion the Pilgrims, Puritans, Quakers and others refused to adopt. So tell us shitforbrains, when did the militia first show its face in the 13 Colonies?

            It was according to all U.S. Colonial history as a means of protecting settlers from Indian raids on their settlements. It was NOT a militarily appointed militia.

            It then became the Continental Army, got that dipshit? ARMY not militia, formed by the First Continential Congress of those 13 original colonies.

            Unless, you live with the same Revolutionary War landmarks as we in NJ, NY and PA all do, you know squat about militia.

            You are just one pathetic excuse for a man who happens to be born without balls and a wide open BIG mouth. Time for us to shut your mouth. I feel a super glue party of nation wide expanse coming for you.

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          2. PatrickHenry October 10, 2017

            Colonists seen first hand how their Liberty could be easily taken away, why OUR Constitution had the Bill of Rights. get it man-hater. The Continental Army was feared by most of OUR Founders, but that was on OUR soil, not foreign soil like now. If we were to ever be attacked on OUR soil, we would then need our Military and the guard, and the Militia.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

            And you know all this about colonists better than anyone else because Poo Poo Putin made sure you got hold of an American history book?

            Our Constitution specifically states “a well regulated militia.” You are NOT regulated.

            The Colonials came from countries that had a monarchy form of government dumbass. WE HAVE a democracy you asshats are desperate to turn into a monarchy where men like you prance around with guns in our faces.

            You really need to tell Putin to get you a better American History book. The Founding Fathers WERE the ones who CREATED the Continental Army by an act of Congress. Wow..do you always wallow in swamp dung?

            As a matter of fact, dipshit, George Washington was commander of that Continental Army. As to the rest of your BS:

            This from my old Collier’s Encyclopedia: “17 of the signers of the DOI served in the military during the Revolution. Thomas Nelson commanded Virginia military forces at the Battle of Yorktown and famously repulsed a British assault there. William Whipple served with the New Hampshire militia and played a major role in sealing off Johnny Burgoyne’s retreat from Saratoga. Oliver Wolcott commanded the Connecticut regiments that defended New York during that campaign and also took part in Burgoyne’s demise. Caesar Rodney served as a Major General in the Delaware militia and famously rode for two days through a thunderstorm to get to Philadelphia and sign the DOI. John Hancock was technically a Major General in the Massachusetts militia but he never did much of anything with it.”

            Now, do you want to admit you are a liar?

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          4. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            The Continental Army was only on our soil because of the British Military there. OUR Military fights on foreign soil otherwise. In OUR Country, we have the National Guard, Law Enforcement & The Militia.

            Guess you think we need to “Ask OUR Government if we can have the right to Bear Arms, so they can regulate us. LMAO.

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          5. Eleanore Whitaker October 13, 2017

            Hey Stupid! That IS what “I” posted. NOT you.

            We have the National Guard because we have states rights. That means each individual state can make laws over and above that of the Federal government.

            We do not have a regulated militia moron. We have the U.S. Armed Forces who represent us according to the U.S. Constitution.

            The Army, Navy, Marines and National Guard are paid for by we taxpayers. You unregulated jerks of the unregulated militias are not. You buy your own guns. You buy your own ammo, cammos, bump stocks and any military weapons you sickos can lay your hands on.

            You’d buy MRaps if the Feds allowed it. You do not have the right to bear assault weapons in MY state. Do it. I dare you to come to NJ and show ass with an assault weapon. We’d throw your ass in jail so fast, you wouldn’t have time to blink an eye.

            You morons are fooling only yourselves. Today’s home security systems can spot an intruder from 200 yards. They are not only capable of photographing and using GPS to track movements but they also alert police to the intruder before he makes his way to your front door.

            So scaredy ass, why do you really need a gun if not to show ass?

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          6. PatrickHenry October 24, 2017

            LMAO, so funny how you Lefties talk about States Rights when you want things your way, but otherwise want the Federal Government to do your Socialist biddings.

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          7. Eleanore Whitaker October 25, 2017

            LMAO, So funny how you Righties think you are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO effing powerful. Think again. Every one of the candidates your Nazi Boozer Boy Bannon thinks he can get elected has to first go through an election process where WE get to vote for the candidates of OUR choice.

            No. As a matter of fact, I have a real shock for you if your limp dick and Swiss cheese brain can process it.

            The Dem states are quite fed up having to pay ANY federal taxes we do not get our fair share of. We are fed up with every Republican state getting from $1.35 up to $1.87 for the $1 they pay in taxes while our states have to increase taxes just to get 55 cents for our federal tax dollar.

            Why the hell would we continue to pay federal taxes the dickheads in the GOP flush ONLY to their states?

            So, now you bitchy righties are going have to work those lard asses off. Why? Because the outcry from Dem taxpayers is to cut off ALL federal taxes, keep those federal dollars in our own states and pay for our own SS, Medicare, Medicaid, infrastructure and defense programs. Which you dicklickers screw us out of anyway.

            Why should we pay one dime of federal taxes we don’t get? Eat your hearts out. Now we use our STATES Rights to stop flooding your states with OUR tax dollars.

            Why the hell should the states that have the highest number of people on welfare like MS, TN, AL, KY, OH and more than half of the midwestern states like KS, WI and IA all drowning in their own cesspool of laziness, get one more dime of federal tax dollars that come mostly from Dem states?

            You want conservatism buster. NOW stand back. We’ll show you how it’s done. Great Depression for the GOP states, here YOU COME.

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          8. PatrickHenry November 1, 2017

            I believe the completely subsidized State of California is a big sewer drain hole. As well as most large, Democrat-Socialist controlled major cities. You KNOW it’s true.

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          9. Eleanore Whitaker November 2, 2017

            What you believe is no more significant than gnat dung. Russia is on its way to doom and you best find a rat hole in Moscow to hide in.

            We are a democratic form of government based on the British template of a republic. We are NOT now nor EVER will be your dream of total and complete takeover.

            Your boy Trump is sinking so far down that the rats on his ship are jumping from skyscrapers in Trump Tower.

            What I know is true is that I am never ever going to stand by and watch MY country be taken over by dipshit white males who can only produce an orgasm when they bully others. Find another way to get your jollies you pathetic POS.

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          10. PatrickHenry November 5, 2017

            How do you like what a WOMAN did, Hillary, to Bernie Sanders?? LMAO. Thank you Donna Brazille.

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          11. Eleanore Whitaker November 6, 2017

            First of all, Brazile is not exactly an icon of innocence and neither is Sanders. I loved what “Hillary did” to your poor little boy Bernie. I love that Hillary beat the hell out of Sanders, an independent he stated over a dozen times. A coward who ran in Burlington VT 7 times for mayor before he EVER won. A chicken livered geezer like you who was always a Republican double agent.

            Why? Because Hillary donated $10 million from the MONEY SHE raised to hand to the Sanders campaign.

            You bet your fat lard butt Hillary raised money for the DNC and I’m glad she did. Because that IS what EVERY Republican right wing politician ALSO did with Koch billions. Try and deny that one moron.

            How is it that Sanders who himself publicly stated half a dozen times during the 2016 campaign that he is “not a Democrat” and then as a Democratic interloper jumps on the DNC band wagon and gives a measly lousy $100,000 to the DNC?

            How is it Sanders said a dozen times he has been in government “44 years” and never once dared run against Bush ’43, Bill Clinton or Obama? You asshats of the right will turn gnat dung into a load of Lard Ass’s landfill of BS if we allow you.

            By the way, do you actually EVER read the U.S. Constitution Ruskie boy? You know the part about “due process of the law” which you asshats think you an bypass because you are terrorized that when Trump goes to prison where he belongs, the entire election will go to Hillary…and that I will love. For no other reason than to watch you asshats of the right do your version of the “Exorcist” eye rolling, head spinning and going nutso.

            Eat this one gasbag from our Constitution’s Fifth Amendment: “No free man shall be seized or imprisoned, or stripped of his rights or possessions, or outlawed or exiled, or deprived of his standing in any other way, nor will we proceed with force against him, or send others to do so, except by the lawful judgment of his equals or by the law of the land.”

            You’ve got nothing as usual that doesn’t reek like Lard Ass’s last bowel movement.

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      2. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

        You’re dedicated to being an air head on this issue. What is it that drained all reasoning capacity from your desiccated mind?
        Either you’re mentally retarded, and for that you can be forgiven for posting drivel, or maybe you’re just another Russian troll with no sense of a need to better yourself—and for that there is no excuse.

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        1. Sand_Cat October 4, 2017

          You can’t fix stupid, and you can’t fix this creep, either. Your rational arguments roll off without the slightest effect. I know it seems required to repeat things to get them through to the dimwit, but you’re wasting your time. You told him he was a mental case above, your eloquence unfortunately wasted. If everybody just reiterated he is an idiot and a liar and let it go at that, he’d likely tire quickly; as it is, he and Johnny5 and Informed[sic]voter, and other bigots, liars, and idiots are able to ompletely take over the comments section for selected articles.

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        2. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

          Truth is a bitch, huh? The Russians again? LMAO.

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    2. Beethoven October 6, 2017

      Thank you for outlining the history of the 2nd Amendment. Too many of the people I know seem to think the 2nd Amendment says, “Congress shall make no law restricting the ownership and use of weapons.” If only people who were members of an organized militia regulated by the state government were allowed to own and use military-type weapons, we wouldn’t be having all these mass shootings of musical concert attendees, night club patrons, and elementary school children. As a person who grew up with guns and hunting, I support the right of licensed hunters to own and possess guns that are legal for the type of hunting those people are licensed for, but I think we need much, much tighter restrictions on purchasing, owning, and using, other types of weapons.

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  2. bobnstuff October 4, 2017

    When did Bambi get a bullet proof vest so a hunter would need bullet that would pierces them. Also why would anyone need to spend $1,000 on a silencer when you can buy ear plugs for 10 for a buck? The gun industry has already sold people on fearing their own government and now they want to make it easier for them to kill law enforcement. Where is Blue Lives Matters here. Ryan views the gun problem as a mental health issue and he may be right, Congress is crazy for even thinking about passing these bills.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker October 4, 2017

      That’s what makes me laugh. We all understand the need for rifles to protect horses and cattle. Where the hell do these hicks live that they need AK47s to protect themselves from wolves in WY, ID and MT?

      Where the hell do these phony ass cowboys live that they can’t sleep at night without a gun protecting them?

      I live in a hugely crowded Metro area. We don’t allow Open Carry for obvious reasons. Picture AK47s on packed trains, subways and buses and you have precisely what ISIS is after. A hot summer day and all the human targets they can get they guns to kill.

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      1. idamag October 4, 2017

        They live in my city, where there is very little crime, zero home invasions and not so many educated people. They can be scared easily. Powerful people has built the paranoia to enrich themselves. Fear does not feel good so it often turns to anger and hate. This is a sick nation. The CDC wanted to do a study after Sandyhook and the NRA nixed it. Our Congress people have sold their souls for campaign donations and whatever else they get under the table.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker October 4, 2017

          That’s why these guys and gals who play act the Bonnie and Clyde routine are showing themselves to be liars.

          This entire nation was absolutely incensed by the fact that first graders were not even safe in their own classroom because Adam Lanza’s gun lover Mommie took her mentally ill son to a gun range to teach him how to use a gun. Wow. He used her own gun to kill her first. The rest is a disgusting legacy for the NRA and gun addicts.

          Make no mistake. These people are as addicted to guns as any heroin addict. The very fact that some of them sleep with a gun at their bedside tells all.

          The worst is that for all that gun power, most armed robberies take these morons by surprise. They love to say how they are protecting their homes and families. Really? So while they are sound asleep and a burglar is standing over them with a gun, how do they protect themselves then?

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      2. Beethoven October 6, 2017

        I grew up with guns, and still have the rifle I was given for my 11th birthday, and the shotgun I was given for my 14th birthday (both bought used, as my parents were not wealthy). I have also purchased a few guns over the many years since, all to be used for hunting, which I no longer do because of health issues and lack of opportunity. I will gladly support laws that allow licensed hunters to own and possess guns that are legal for the type of hunting they have licenses for, but I cannot see any reason why average citizens with no special training should be allowed to buy and use weapons designed for military combat. I do have one weapon I bought for personal protection, about 30 years ago, at a time I thought I might need it. That is a six-shot revolver. I do have a permit to carry it concealed, though I haven’t done so in quite a few years, but since the sheriff who issued the concealed carry permit is a personal friend whom I have known for many years, I don’t think he is taking a risk by issuing me the permit.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker October 6, 2017

          If you review the paltry Trump record of legislation passed thus far since he so called “took office,” you see the ONLY thing that the Republicans and Trump managed to pass was allowing the mentally ill to buy guns.

          I know there are lots of reasons to own guns in rural areas of the country. One reason here in the Metro area the gun control laws are so strict is that every day would look like what happened in Las Vegas if guns flowed like they do in the south and midwest.

          It mystifies all of us here in the Metro states why these people so fear their own neighbors when at any minute any of us can be incinerated as the 4,000 were on 9/11. Not to mention the numerous inner city gangs and streets where the mentally ill are seen as part of the homeless population every day.

          Thanks to Reagan’s laws on the mentally ill being “integrated into society” mainly so his conservative morons could save billions on funding for mental institutions, these mentally ill are allowed to decide whether or not they want to accept assistance and shelters. So you see them on benches in airports, on subways, over steam grates on streets and anywhere else they can find for safety. Some of them claim that the shelters aren’t safe. How true that is depends on what you can rely on from mentally unstable minds.

          But now Govenor Fat Mouth here in NJ, went along with that January 2017 bill of Trump’s to allow mentally ill to purchase guns.

          The NRA is scrambling right now to find a way to zero in on what Paddock on the 32 floor of a Las Vegas casino building decided to use humans as targets for 9 to 11 minutes. Worse, they can’t explain how it is Paddock, who had no record of mental illness, (a burr in the GOP’s butt who loves to lob it all on mental illness) and he was relatively well off.

          Some men in this world use any excuse they can find to get revenge. What is known about Paddock is that he had several homes, one in a gated senior community where he had a 6 ft fence erected in violation of the senior community rules. He was forced by law to remove it. There was NO need for it since the community already was gated with a security guard. He claimed he didn’t want anyone to “see” him. Now, we know why.

          Tell some gun owners what they can’t do and out come the guns.

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  3. PatrickHenry October 4, 2017

    The Gun Control activists again use a tragedy for their agenda. Now some sensible things could be done, but Gun Control laws haven’t stopped the violence, witness Chicago & other places.
    Meanwhile, the Democrats & Special Interests won’t Secure OUR Borders, resulting in many serious crimes & murders. The problem really is, Political.

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker October 4, 2017

      Good. Now when your home washes away because of Big Oil and Fracking pollution, we will not use that as a way to discuss how to help you recover.

      Do yourself a favor and stop defending the indefensible. NO MAN needs to walk around in public with an assault weapon.

      Did you enjoy that Paddock spent 9 to 11 minutes killing 59 innocent people? I’ll bet you thought how wonderful it was that he got to use REAL humans for his targets instead of clay pigeons you and your prickface gun addicts are stuck with.

      NOW is the time to get rid of Open Carry. Why is it ONLY in hick states you boys think you need to use guns to show the size of your dicks? Or is it that the more powerful your weapon, the more you think you are advertising for the power of your dicks? Do you have an orgasm every time 59 innocent people get shot for no reason other than THEIR RIGHT to be safe in public?

      Men like you are cowards without your guns. You know you’d get your asses beat to hell if it was just fists and no weapons.

      YOU are the problem prickboy.

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      1. idamag October 4, 2017

        applause

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker October 4, 2017

          Thank you Ida. Nothing gets my dander up like guys who fight like hell to get their way when their way is killing others whether by a gun in their hands or by their refusal to stop their feasting at the table of Grand Denial.

          There isn’t an American woman who doesn’t know these guys consider a gun a second penis. The very fact that they walk into a convenience store armed with an assault weapon on their shoulders is proof of how these lunatic men view the power of guns.

          The few women who aspire to their Annie Oakley status are women who do so mainly because “their MAN” gets off on “his woman” being armed and oooooh soooooo dangerous. More showing off.

          Now we have the trigger happy Trump supporters all massing and praying for a civil war so they can spray everyone but themselves with bullets.

          When nuts resort to such levels of violence, there are not far from a mental institution.

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          1. idamag October 4, 2017

            This is my theory. There are two factors here. For years powers have frightened people for their own gain. Take, for instance, air headed women who have been told they need to spend thousands because they have been taught to fear age or being unattractive. The man who fears his masculinity might be questioned. Remember the ad where a skinny young man and a beautiful girl are sitting on the beach. A big bully type kicks sand at the man and he remedies it by taking the Atlas course. There was the Atomic bomb scare, the communist scare and the government it going to take your rights away. They’re coming for your guns scare. All of this constant fear has made the nation paranoid. Especially those who are easy to scare. It doesn’t feel good to be afraid so they turn the fear into hate and anger. Then there is the electronic social media. Without face to face dialogue, they can wallow in their fears and this makes mistrust. Creating more paranoia. We have a sick nation and God help us if that is not addressed.

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker October 5, 2017

            Ida, What a profoundly astute post. I wish there was a way to make it go viral.

            I’m one of the few women in this world who fears only two things: snakes and rats. Men are of little consquence to me. I find all too many of them unworthy of my time.

            Thus, the men in my circle of friends and business associates are those who know I do not, will not and cannot abide men who cannot play fair. I’d rather be friends with a pit of boa constrictors.

            Fortunately, I have a small circle of male friends with whom I glean much in the way of intelligent opinions that are highly advanced. These days, I find it difficult to place trust in men with whom I am not acquainted. Mainly due to the glut of men who can no longer be trusted in word or deed.

            However, the moment I look into the face of a tiny infant, I know my duty and obligation is to ensure that child has a future. One that is uncompromised by liars, cheats and thieves. One that isn’t embedded in a society so violent that bloodshed is a means of titillating the senses.

            I realized today’s right wingers think my attitude is old fashioned. Until you look at what they want. They’d love nothing better than for all of us to look the other way at what we know is violent, criminal behavior. That I cannot and will never do.

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          3. idamag October 6, 2017

            I find just as many ignorant and bully type women as men.

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          4. Eleanore Whitaker October 7, 2017

            There is one word people of class all possess and classless people do not: Finesse.

            This is social grace of a level that accomplishes the most through the fine art of listening, meditating over the issue in order to come up with successful solutions to conflicts and disharmony.

            Obama had that level of finesse that Trump spends ALL his time trying to erase. Jackie Kennedy is another who possessed finesse. Finesse is that layer of final finish from good breeding and self discipline to be the best we can be.

            So, as you can see, the classlessness of the right wing who encompass boozer slobs like Bannon, sneaky creeps like Sessions and the super schemers like Iskanka, Kush Kush, Conway and the rest of the Trump bottom feeders cannot possibly possess finesse. The patina of their low life classlessness was eroded long long ago. Once lost finesse can never be regained.

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          5. idamag October 7, 2017

            I have always said, “Money cannot buy class.” Trump, his family, and his supporters bear that out. He is the champion of the vulgar oafs.

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          6. Eleanore Whitaker October 7, 2017

            Very often the nouveau riche come from what our Brit friends might call, “the common” class.

            However, when you consider who Trump associates are, boozer Bannon, that half wit Conway and lawyers who themselves have flown under legal radar for ages, it isn’t possible to miss what Trump considers class.

            If I thought him throwing paper towels to those poor hurricane victims in Puerto Rico was bad, his standing with military families issuing yet another of his veilied threats to his “enemies” was a new low even for him.

            Trump and his associates are precisely what Hillary Clinton stated, “Deplorables.”

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          7. idamag October 7, 2017

            A word that describes them very well.

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          8. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

            I read you loud and clear.

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      2. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

        Don’t forget Chicago’s wonderful, strict gun laws. Certiny doing a great job of stopping violence there huh? What a Dummy.

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    2. CPAinNewYork October 4, 2017

      You are truly an a$$hole.

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker October 4, 2017

        Actually, since PatrickHenry loves the sound of bullets so much, when he walks into a shopping mall and gets bullets in his too large ass, one wonders if he will be able to do his gun boy dance.

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        1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

          Eleanore, you’re a scream. “gun boy dance”—I’m chuckling as I type this.

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      2. idamag October 4, 2017

        An anus has a vital purpose. He is a malignancy.

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      3. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

        You are, LMAO.

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

        As the chart clearly shows, the preponderance of deaths are for states with poor gun control. Only one state(MD), was an outlier for states with Grade A control, and the vast majority of those with Grade F are Red Zone states in the South and elsewhere in the US that have an affinity for Trump per the Electoral College.

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      2. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

        Try breaking it down by cities, not States. Like Chicago, Detroit, etc.

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        1. johninPCFL October 9, 2017

          As proven earlier, city-dwellers go to the countryside to buy their weapons. A simple trip from Chicago to anywhere in droolerville Indiana lets you buy a Barrett .50 with no “papers please” questions on a Saturday. Until Indiana tightens up their “gunshow loophole” profit driver, nothing else will change.

          NOtice that Nevada is already near the tp on gun deaths? Last weekend was an average day, except for the number wounded.

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          1. PatrickHenry October 10, 2017

            What’s your explanation about the Chicago Violence, just excuses?

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

            The violence in Chicago IS caused by the same gun smuggling bigots who try desperately to get their guns into NY City and NJ inner cities. We lock their ass up as soon as they cross out state lines.

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          3. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            But it took a Republican Mayor like Rudy to bring crime down, didn’t it.

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          4. johninPCFL October 10, 2017

            The explanation is that criminals in Chicago, whether straw-man gun sellers or criminals who use guns, are at most a few hours away from any gun they want on any Saturday in Indiana. No papers required, only cash. If the criminal is a gun user, he can then get one on any day of the week from the straw-man seller.

            If Indiana required the minimal background checks required in, say, Arizona, the gun problem would abate in a few years (as the police captured the criminals with guns and destroyed the guns.) As it is, the criminals will continue getting all the firepower they want from Indiana (primarily) and Wisconsin because on any Saturday there’s a gun show where buyers’ IDs are not checked at all.

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          5. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            Kinda reminds me of certain States and cities allowing criminal Illegals to remain untouched.

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          6. johninPCFL October 12, 2017

            Criminal behavior among “illegals” is far lower than among the white, toothless droolers in the red states.

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          7. PatrickHenry November 1, 2017

            Just blatant Racism, but we all know that.

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      1. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

        Mother Jones Fake Propaganda? Give us a break. LMAO.

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        1. johninPCFL October 9, 2017

          Sorry, doltard. FBI database distillation to a chart that almost any idiot can understand. You may be the only exception.

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          1. PatrickHenry October 10, 2017

            Again, Mother Jones?? LMAO.

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

            Hey stupid, Mother Jones, like all REAL news sources can use FBI data. Isn’t that what Putin does with his KGB data patriot boy?

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        2. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

          To you, all truth is fake. Admit it patriot liar. The only entity you are patriotic to is Putin in Russia.

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          1. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            The RUSSIANS Again? LMAO. The Russians are coming, the Russians are coming.

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    3. Richard Prescott October 4, 2017

      Why don’t you read the Nevada Gun Control current law. It allowed what the Vegas shooter did to his weapons.
      What private citizen NEEDS an automatic weapon, or the ability to modify weapons to FULL automatic? What good hunter needs more than maybe 2 shots?
      You are anything BUT what your name implies. We have seen you around before with your disinformation nonsense.

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      1. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

        Automatic weapons ARE outlawed fool. And the NRA has called for banning bump-stocks. Oh, by the way, the Right to Bear Arms have absolutely NOTHING to do with hunting, fool.

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        1. Richard Prescott October 9, 2017

          While I should have clearly stated “semi-automatic”, then modified to simulated automatic by the bump stock, there is still a problem with Nevadas gun laws…
          https://gun.laws.com/state-gun-laws/nevada-gun-laws
          And the Second Amendment was written in an age where local militia meant something different than what some want it to be now.
          And the right to bear arms has a lot to do with hunting, because if you don’t have the right to bear arms you will hunt with what? Not firearms.

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          1. PatrickHenry October 10, 2017

            Everybody in those times had to hunt to survive, just a given, however the 2nd. Amendment was ALL about that right to defend themselves be taken away. NOT Hunting. Face it even though you don’t want to admit it’s true.

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

            They didn’t hunt with assault weapons. Blast a deer with an assault weapon and your din din will be all over the woods.

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          3. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            2nd. Amendment isn’t at ALL about Hunting. Besides, if the Government or Criminals have assault weapons, why the hell can’t honest, law-abiding Citizens? Duhhh

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          4. johninPCFL October 10, 2017

            The actual wording of A2 has an interesting history. The writers were not particularly worried about overthrowing the government, they were worried about self defense. In particular, the southern contingent was concerned that a slave uprising could occur, so A2 was codified to allow the slave holding states ( and owners) to institute militias to put down slave rebellions.

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          5. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            The 2nd. Amendment certainly was about self-defense, whether by Government or criminals, or anything or anybody that could harm them.

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          6. johninPCFL October 12, 2017

            Well, rebelling slaves certainly fit that bill. The southern slave-holding state representatives were concerned given the uprisings that had already occurred that the trained state militias that were already doing slave repatriation could continue their work without interference from the anti-slave Northern states.

            Interesting that the principle of “private” ownership wasn’t discussed. Gun ownership was discussed only in the context of having one to serve in a “well regulated militia”.

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          7. 788eddie October 12, 2017

            The Second Amendment mentions a well-regulated militia; so where is the regulation? These nuts don’t want any regulation!

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        2. 788eddie October 12, 2017

          Correction: the NRA has rescinded its call for banning bump-stocks (I’m sure it was a mistake from the beginning).

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    4. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

      Patrick, or whatever your real identity is. You show the usual deficit of humanity. Your essence has been sapped, and filled with some strange political ideology. You my friend are less a human being, and more like some robot programmed with some political agenda.
      The problem isn’t political, it’s a symptom. Partisan politics is just a wart, which you seem to be covered with. The problem, the root, is the absence of a spiritual conscience, which has been replaced with a soulless materialistic, jaundiced view of what you think it means to be human.

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      1. plc97477 October 5, 2017

        Brain scans of republicans have shown that the fear center of the brain is larger than it is in Liberals. The fear center must take the over the place in the brain that gives us empathy and intelligence.

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      2. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

        Spoken like a true self-righteous, Socialist with an illusion of self-importance, yet completely intolerant of others. When children, Socialists were nerds, with an I ferocity complex, causing them to hate others.

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        1. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

          If you are a patriot, tell us patriot which of the Russian regimes were you a patriot of?

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          1. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            I believe it was Obama that assured Putin that he could be much more FLEXIBLE, right after the election! LMAO.

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        2. Sand_Cat October 10, 2017

          Got projection? Sounds like you’ve accurately described yourself!

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          1. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            Hardly a Socialist. Are you criticizing Socialism now?

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        3. 788eddie October 12, 2017

          There goes Patrick, the Putin Promoter. Everyone has called you out for what you are, and that’s definitely NOT a lover of democracy.

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          1. PatrickHenry October 12, 2017

            I am very much a supporter of OUR Constitutional Republic of the People, not your idea of a Socialist, Big Government “democracy”.

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          2. 788eddie October 12, 2017

            Everyone can see you for what you are, Patrick; a Putin Troll.

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    5. 788eddie October 4, 2017

      Careful, Patrick; your GOP-ness is showing (note: say it out loud for full effect).

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      1. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

        All I see is a Russian posing as a patriot. It’s enough already with Putin allowing them to use the word “patriot” so they can pretend they are Americans.

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        1. 788eddie October 10, 2017

          In my estimation, Eleanor, these people have, collectively, turned a once positive descriptive into term that invokes, in me, a sour taste.

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          1. Sand_Cat October 10, 2017

            It joins “liberty,” “freedom,” and other terms rendered meaningless by non-stop GOP abuse.

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          2. Eleanore Whitaker October 11, 2017

            My particular favorite is how Trump keeps lying and saying the U.S. is the highest taxed country in the world. He’s full of it.

            But, since this lie is one of his most over used, he just keeps repeating it for his 32%ers which I don’t believe is even true.

            If a vote was taken tomorrow on a national scale as to whether we wanted Trump removed, it wouldn’t be a matter of ONLY 68% of us voting for removal.

            32% is a nice number Trump and his liars drummed up that they think he can live with.

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          3. Eleanore Whitaker October 11, 2017

            One of the CEOs I worked for once told me the most brilliant thing: When you want to know where failure is, see the opposite of it.

            In my mind, if the Russians succeed in weakening government from within using nuts like Trump and Bannon what would be the downside? No elections? No enforcement of the U.S. Constitution? Exacting tax dollars that only pay the wealthy?

            Putin is a power mad maniac. Unfortunately for Americans, he is a KGB trained vet of subterfuge and strategies he knows can strike without warning.

            He lies and says almost 4 dozen dissenters and journalists committed suicide with Palonium 210. And like Trump, he perpetuates that lie by refusing to admit only Putin’s government has access to that poison.

            Every adult today has to face the reality that they are responsible to ensure our kids have a future. Not one that turns them into a rich man’s free slave labor.

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    6. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

      Patrick—What is your motivation for being so devoted to a narrow-minded mentality which you felt such an urge to expose? Is it because of some inordinate attachment to a political ideology? Is it because you suffer from some traumatic event in life that has disrupted your ability to think properly?
      Did your parents have the same mental deficiencies and therefore raised you to be able to replicate what ailed them? Or maybe your parents taught you to act and express yourself in a more mature manner, but you chose to rebel against them, deciding to be a irksome dick in life, as you’ve constantly shown in this forum.

      These are the sort of questions you need to reflect on before you feel moved to post again. Not once, I repeat—NOT ONCE, have you expressed any feelings of remorse for the victims nor once decried the circumstances which have up to now led to innocent lives being snuffed out. Only a monster of a human being would think and post as you’ve done.

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      1. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

        I believe it was the Democrat-Socialist Party that took GOD out of their platform, & continue to slaughter innocent life. Perhaps your parents should had aborted you. LMAO.

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        1. Sand_Cat October 9, 2017

          I don’t BELIEVE, I KNOW the Constitution you obviously despise attempted to take “god” out of government; the Democratic party is only following it, in contrast you hypocrites. I shouldn’t have to point out what a fine example you set as a Believer: intolerant, ignorant, dishonest, and just plain mean.
          And go ahead and laugh your ass off; your past attempts obviously detached your brain along with it, as well as assuring that you’re completely full of $hit!!!
          Your post also shows you consider what you call the “slaughter of innocent life” – something at which GOP warmongers excel – a laughing matter.

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          1. Eleanore Whitaker October 10, 2017

            All Russian hackers like PatrickHenry, hate the US, democracy and the Constitution. That’s why they just had to glut social media as PatrickHenry is still doing with their lies and BS.

            The truth they will never admit is “why” Putin wanted a dipshit like Trump in the White House. Trump is pathetic. First, he gets used by the Republican Party who can now blame him for any of their ill conceived policies and attempts to totally erase the Obama successes and then Trump gets used by Putin so Putin could undermine our voting rights with social media liars like PatrickHenry.

            Dollar to a donut, PatrickHenry is located somewhere in Moscow.

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          2. Sand_Cat October 10, 2017

            Whereever he is, he’s what we said. My image is of some ignorant bigot sitting at the keyboard, but you may well be right.
            One would think paid trolls could do better.

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    7. Sand_Cat October 4, 2017

      Still smarting about your lie that the GOP doesn’t start wars, so you have to post more crap? The GOP has certainly done everything it possibly can to promote and widen the war of Americans against their fellow citizens, along with their wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the two longest ion our history. You’re not only shockingly ignorant, but a liar as well.
      One would hope the real Patrick Henry would be shocked and angered that a low-life dirtbag like you has stolen his name to post an unceasing tirade of malicious lies.

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      1. PatrickHenry October 8, 2017

        It was shown how false your statement was earlier. Face it. Truth always a bitch to Libs. You’ll spend hours searching for some Leftist propaganda to try to appear not gullible.

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        1. Sand_Cat October 9, 2017

          You nevewr showed anything of the kind, and your current post confirms you’re a liar as well as delusional.

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  4. Chuckl8 October 4, 2017

    The last sentence in the article about the proposed legislation allowing gun silencers reads like a headline from The Onion; “A House hearing on the SAFE Act was originally set to place in June, but was delayed after House Majority Whip Steve Scalise was shot during a congressional baseball practice.”

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  5. idamag October 4, 2017

    The only reason we haven’t went the way of nazi Germany, so far, is the fascists didn’t have a leader. They are out there. They are waiting. They are getting armed with more and better weaponry than the brownshirts even dreamed of. There were people in Germany, in the 30s, who never believed it could happen. Walls and travel bans only fence us in with home grown terrorists and we are producing many.

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    1. 788eddie October 4, 2017

      Please accept my humble correction, idamag: the fascists do have a leader; he’s in the White House.

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  6. ivory69690@yahoo.com October 4, 2017

    its said that congress feels its no a good time to talk about any type of gun control . OK gang of pinheads =GOP when would be a better time ? their thinking is wait till there’s no mass killings and murders of innocent people for awhile and at that time those morons will say what’s the sense of talking about it now we haven’t hade any problems for awhile so thy thing it wont be an issue . till the next mass murder of innocent lives . and then again thy will say now is not the time to talk about it . seems there’s only one true way to have them pinheads find time to talk about it (and sad as it maybe ) is for it be their innocent mothers, father’s ,wife’s , husbands , sons ,and daughters be the ones that war mass murdered . seems the only way for them to understand the tragedy of it all is for them to put the shoes on of the ones murdered and their love ones . how many love ones of the pinheads would have to be murdered and loss for them to start talking about some form of gun control ? who knows if it be their love ones and them on the other side of the terror guns thy might even seek stronger gun laws . say if if be the way then the NRA should also for all their standing up for guns suffer the same faith and the innocents ones of today that are being murdered .

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  7. Richard Prescott October 4, 2017

    And when the Congressman from SD told the victims to get into the smallest possible target size. Yeah, that’s the first thing on their minds when they realize they have just been shot. “Oooh, I forgot to get very small, I should have known I was going to be shot at.”
    Maybe if Paul Ryan gets very small. Oh wait, he IS already very small, in his brain size, conscience, care for people other than the very rich. Wait, his ears are big, and so is his mouth. I guess that counts for something. Only in the GOP Congress.
    Our lawmakers are not doing what they should to protect the people in this nation. They do not care.
    And as more and more people come to this realization why are these same people getting re-elected?

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    1. 788eddie October 4, 2017

      An excellent question, Richard. Excellent question!

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  8. sharkbait4711 October 4, 2017

    Here’s what’s happening with all this folks…

    The NRA is the militia of all militias. They want to arm everyone with every weapon out there so that they can have their militia’s attack our Military and our Blue Lives and take over. Why on earth do you think no one is addressing the 500+ militias that are within our borders? These are hostile groups that are amassing weapons and getting ready to attack and “start this civil war” THEY keep talking about.

    The NRA is the ISIS of the USA. Let that sink in for a moment… NRA = ISIS

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    1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

      At least we can all agree on the fact that the NRA is a deadly force with enormous power over the democratic process. They and groups like ALEC are de facto in charge of deciding the direction the country takes.

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  9. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

    Paul knows one thing—how to smile for the camera. That smile in effect reflects how the GOP feels about calls for gun regulation, because they know it isn’t going to happen. Not as long as the NRA and the Koch’s, etc. are in charge of America’s Right Wing faction.

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    1. 788eddie October 4, 2017

      The NRA and the Koch’s can all go to Hell, as far as I’m concerned. The sad thing is, they want to take the country with them; the once-great United States of America.

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      1. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

        At the rate they’re all going, they have spots already reserved. America will rebound, but that’ll be delayed until this dying form of governance finally collapses, like the Roman Empire did.

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  10. Aaron_of_Portsmouth October 4, 2017

    If we would but a moment think about Congress’ enslavement to the NRA, and other nefarious forces which represent the worst qualities potentially within all humans, we should by now recognize how America’s noble experiment in Democracy has been totally and irrevocably been seized by its collective forelock by individuals and groups who have given vent to the darkest proclivities we all have inherited as a human species.

    The GOP, like so many other jaded Americans and peoples across the world, has succumbed and surrendered itself to the notion that humans are incapable of correcting their behavior when it goes counter to any semblance of nobility. Which is why the GOP, the NRA, and so many Americans are willing to roll over and go into a state of paralysis of will to better themselves. And which compels gun-lovers, for example, to offer the demoralized opinion that since all humans are capable of being evil, why make any effort to prevent troubled minds from having guns. They use the convenient excuse that since some flawed humans said in a document(treated with more reverence than the Bible) that all Americans had the right to carry firearms, and since all humans will always behave in an evil manner, we may as well arm ourselves in case someone decides to misbehave.

    Such a lack of faith in their own Religion—Christianity in this instance—is a repudiation of everything Jesus taught and stood for—sacrificed Himself for. A sacrifice originating from His innate ability to know the true nature of humans, and our ability to make the right choice to have our higher nature subdue our lower nature.

    The NRA, the GOP, gun-lovers, Trump, Putin, and so many others, have no consciousness of this fundamental verity of the natural instinct to be noble.

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    Bahá’u’lláh writes that we should fix our thoughts on “that which will sanctify…the hearts and souls of men.” “This,” He continues, “can best be achieved through pure and holy deeds, through a virtuous life and a goodly behavior.” ‘Abdu’l-Bahá has written: “How excellent, how honorable is man if he arises to fulfill his responsibilities; how wretched and contemptible, if he shuts his eyes to the welfare of society and wastes his precious life in pursuing his own selfish interests and personal advantages.”
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    Does the above indication of what it means to be contemptible not apply to the likes of the NRA, the Koch’s, Trump, the GOP and other Party members, and so many others, when we consider just the issue surrounding guns, and of moral behavior, in America??

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  11. Beethoven October 6, 2017

    We have a clear choice. If you enjoy reading about mass shootings like the one in Vegas, the one at Sandy Hook Elementary School, and the one at the night club in Florida, and want to encourage more and more mass shootings like those, then you need to support the Republican Party candidates, especially those who receive funding from the NRA. On the other hand, if you don’t want more mass shootings, and would like to think that you could attend a music concert, or a night club, or send your child to school, without worrying about the possibility that you or your child might be murdered by a nutcase, then you need to support the candidates who are willing to try to put a stop to this madness, and those candidates are almost all members of the Democratic Party.

    One of President Obama’s last executive orders was intended to make it illegal to sell a gun to a person who had been determined by a court to be so mentally ill that the person could not be trusted to handle his or her own money, specifically, their Social Security or SSI check. One of the first things this Republican Congress and Republican president managed to enact and sign into law (almost the only thing they have managed to accomplish so far) was to undo that executive order and make it legal to sell guns to such mentally incompetent people.

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