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5 Ways Conservatives Make Workers Poorer, Sicker, And More Dependent On Government

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5 Ways Conservatives Make Workers Poorer, Sicker, And More Dependent On Government

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If you’re reading this, chances are you’ll be poor, or have already been poor, at some point in your life.

A long-term study called the Panel of Income Dynamics found that by the age of 60, nearly 8 in 10 of us will have gone through a period of economic hardship. And during this spell of unemployment or underemployment, you’ll likely want to do what Jeb Bush says American workers need to do: work longer hours.

But because of numerous decisions that are made for us by society and the multifarious ways that same society conspires to make being poor expensive, you’ll be surviving on unemployment insurance, food stamps or, if you’re lucky, the graciousness of loved ones.

Hopefully at some point, you’ll climb — or at least hobble — out of the economic darkness and be able to say, as Craig T. Nelson did once did on Fox News, “I’ve been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me out? No.”

Author John Steinbeck once suggested that the reason Americans are complacent in the face of unnecessary poverty amidst extraordinary affluence is that “everyone was a temporarily embarrassed capitalist.”

I’d argue that this is the reason that conservatism has caught on in America, with the help of a massive infrastructure determined to spread the Gospel of Free Enterprise that marries the teachings of an atheist, abortion-loving immigrant named Ayn Rand with those of a socialist, Jewish rabbi named Jesus Christ.

Liberals believe that facts should be able to sway white workers from a philosophy that has engineered a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class Americans to the richest .01 percent, who have soaked up nearly all the gains in the economy since conservatism first took hold in the late ’70s.

In 2004’s What’s the Matter with Kansas, Thomas Frank described The Great Backlash that has motivated the dramatic shift of white working-class voters from the Democratic Party to the GOP. “Backlash ensures that Republicans will continue to be returned to office even when their free-market miracles fail and their libertarian schemes don’t deliver and their ‘New Economy’ collapses,” he wrote, years before the GOP would retake the House of Representatives in the nadir of the Great Recession that it either didn’t prevent or engineered, depending on your point of view.

In Kansas, in Louisiana, in Wisconsin, in America, conservative policies deliver predictable agony for workers and unimaginable rewards for millionaires. But workers keep putting Republicans back in office to twist the knife. The shift started in the ’70s when corporate America found that buying politicians was cheap and effective as long as it had an army of evangelicals to counter the power of organized labor. And as Democrats moved to the right to counter this assault, the results they’d delivered since the New Deal workers waned. Eventually the right’s aggressive reframing of American values around social issues and a dogwhistle campaign to tar government help as only beneficial to minorities drove a wedge between the left and its natural constituency that continues to this day.

Logic and facts won’t change this. Democratic presidents continually deliver greater and wider economic growth but Republicans are still seen as the party that best handles the economy. Nothing will change until workers understand what they get from conservative policies: weaker families, dimmer futures, and corporate governance that mocks their needs. Only the understanding that private good relies on public investment can ever reverse the damage of conservatism.

Here are five ways workers punish themselves by voting Republican:

1. Working longer.
More than 85 percent of American men and 66.5 percent of women work more than 40 hours a week. In exchange, we’re the only industrialized country on Earth that does not require paid maternity or sick leave. We also have less vacation time than any first-world nation.

Needless to say, conservatives widely oppose all of these policies. Every Republican in the Senate running for president voted against paid sick leave this year.

“Americans work 137 more hours per year than Japanese workers, 260 more hours per year than British workers, and 499 more hours per year than French workers,” according to the International Labour Organization.

But Jeb Bush is right—many of us would still like to work longer and can’t. But not because we need more work—we have plenty of that— but we need the economic freedom conservative policies deny us.

2. Working to death.
The retirement age for Social Security is already 67 for anyone born in 1960 or after. Jeb Bush would like to make that 68 or 70. He’d also like to privatize it and “phase out” traditional Medicare, presumably to phase in Paul Ryan’s Medicare voucher plan, which is opposed by everyone, including most Republicans.

Bush’s argument is solvency or saving these retirement guarantees. What he’s really saying is that he would never consider the much less painful and viable options: asking the rich to pay payroll taxes the same way the middle class does, and negotiating drug prices for Medicare the way we do for Medicaid and the Veterans Administration.

Bush and most Republicans make the argument that “people are living longer!”

“This sounds plausible until you look at exactly who is living longer,” The New York Times‘ Paul Krugman explains. “The rise in life expectancy, it turns out, is overwhelmingly a story about affluent, well-educated Americans. Those with lower incomes and less education have, at best, seen hardly any rise in life expectancy at age 65; in fact, those with less education have seen their life expectancy decline.”

So the workers who are voting Republican are again most victimized by GOP policies.

3. Working for less.
If facts could change minds, this graph would be all workers would need to see to never vote Republican again.

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It’s almost impossible to directly connect the fall of middle-class incomes and the decline of labor unions, but the correlations are astounding. And wherever unions are busted or hindered by GOP policies, wages fall.

Jeb Bush has said he doesn’t even think there should be a minimum wage and opposes President Obama’s revised rule that would force employers to pay millions of workers for the overtime they are already doing. And they pursue these policies despite evidence showing their arguments against higher mandatory wages have been repeatedly disproved.

4. Working less safely.
The Occupation Safety and Health Administration was created under President Nixon and has radically transformed the safety of U.S. workplaces.

“In the past four decades, the number of deaths due to workplace accidents fell from 13,800 in 1970 to 5,657 in 2007,” David Rosner and Gerald Markowitz wrote. “The total incidence rate of private sector occupational injuries and illnesses plummeted from 10.9 per 100 workers in 1972 to 3.9 in 2008.” Some of this has to do with the decline of industrialized occupations in America. Most of it has to do with OSHA.

Still, in 2013, nearly 13 Americans died on the job each day.

So what does the GOP want to do? Gut OSHA , starve funding for regulators to police corporations, or just completely roll back regulations that prevent little inconveniences like factories exploding.

5. Working for food stamps and Medicaid.
What do you call people who work 40 hours a week and are still on food stamps and Medicaid?

Republicans call them “takers,” even though it’s corporations that are really doing the taking.

“You’ve got this giant industry of free riders,” billionaire and anti-inequality activist Nick Hanauer said on Barry Ritholtz’s Masters of Business podcast. “McDonald’s pays their workers poverty wages and not one of the people in McDonald’s can buy the products [of the companies I start]. All of my employees can afford to go to McDonald’s every day, right, but not vice versa. All of my employees pay taxes. All of the McDonald’s employees, they don’t pay taxes. In fact, they need public services like food stamps and Medicaid that my employees pay [into]. And none of this makes any sense.”

It only makes sense if you want to keep wages unethically low and don’t actually care about the personal responsibility you preach. It makes sense if you think the people who should pay the costs of your extraordinary gains are the workers you exploit and the taxpayers you gouge.

It actually makes a lot of sense. What doesn’t make sense is that the votes of the people being exploited make this possible.

Photo: Wisconsin Budget Repair Bill Protest, 2011. (Mark Danielson via Flickr)

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  1. The lucky one July 27, 2015

    “What doesn’t make sense is that the votes of the people being exploited make this possible.”
    I’ve always found that so amazing. As Einstein said “The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.”

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    1. idamag July 27, 2015

      It is like the abusive parent or spouse who tells a child or, or spouse, they are not good, stupid, what have you. The victim comes to believe what they have been told and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophesy. According to studies of the Marine Corp, intelligence has been dropping since 1980. Along with this dumbing down, the worker has been steadily devalued. In the medieval times, the craftsman was looked upon as one of the highest in society. No more. If he wants to organize to have a lobby voice, he is castigated for being greedy and who does he, the lowly worker, think he is to assume he should have a voice in his government. Part of the process of dumbing down is the media. There is nothing mentally stimulating on television. Even what passes for news is just reinforcements of ideology.

  2. Matforce July 27, 2015

    When I was 16 in 1969, I got my first summer job with a masonry outfit as a mason tender. They paid me $5.50/hr. Four years later, I was earning $6.25/hr.
    Do you know what that wage would be today, adjusted for inflation? Answer: $35.18/hr. & $39.97 respectively.
    All of the increase has gone to the top (the true “takers) and nothing has trickled down after 35 years of “supply side economics.”
    Do you know what I did with the money? I, along with my 300 million strong fellow middle class workers, invested it back into the USA economy through the purchase of products and services, got a college education, and worked my way up through a system that worked for all of us. As it should be!

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker July 27, 2015

      Now you know why the GOP won’t dare touch businesses who illegally hire undocumented workers. They can threaten to deport them if they take sick time off or a death day for a loved one. They can’t do that to Americans. Where would they deport us to? The Confederate states as free slave labor?

    2. Frank KIng July 27, 2015

      the right wing stills maintains Reagan’s trickle down, voodoo economics as “gospel”, even though it was rebuked and laughed at by his economic advisors and some taken to the” wood shed”. Goods and services that you purchased in the past are now made overseas as well as profits invested abroad. The Reagan plan to suck money out of the economy and place it in the hands of the few who support right wing policies and programs has created the economic mess today. It is the right wing conspiracy that has been ignored by the voters who vote against their best interests for politicians who have no interest in their plight. . America’s decline at home and abroad was a result of the last right wing incompetence, mismanagement, malfeasance/misfeasance the last time they were in control of the government and our lives and may never be resolved.

      1. Matforce July 27, 2015

        Couldn’t agree more! Your list of descriptors is spot on except for the omission of “corrupt…”

  3. Eleanore Whitaker July 27, 2015

    The slicky slicky boys sold American workers a bill of goods that was so top heavy in their favor. When they stacked the cards against workers, they didn’t care what it would to to OUR country or our people. So..should we now care what happens to them and their businesses?

    It is long past time for all middle and lower income workers to face facts: We do not owe these businesses our tax dollars to keep them in existence.

    The GOP today loves to slash and burn, sequester and shut down government. Well? Of course. How else can they make the case that there is a huge deficit? Of course there is…when more than 65% of every US budget ends up in red states for military contractors, how doesn’t that fatten these states’ economies while it flattens the rest of the states’ economies? Add in the prison, gun manufacturing and Big Oil states all sucking up your tax dollars and what could be left for infrastructure, vets and progams we are paying for 4 or more decades for?

    It’s no coincidence that RED states are all conservative states. Why wouldn’t they be? After all, they conserve YOUR tax dollars for their relic industries.

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    1. Matforce July 27, 2015

      The GOP has been corrupted by the special, moneyed interests that fund their elections, then return the favor by churning out POLICY that benefits ONLY moneyed interests. All the while, they’re busy demonizing the USA government as the ENEMY, knowing full well it is the only entity that CAN serve as an arbiter of justice between the interests of “we the people” and that of $moneyed$ interest they’re beholden to. Then they shamelessly proclaim to be the “true patriots” who would protect the people they’ve screwed over in favor of a larger market share for moneyed interest from the consequences of the Big Bad USA Government they and their leagues of lobbyist, panels of “experts,” and teams of lawyers dominate! SICK, yet you gotta hand it to ’em; they’ve managed to pull it off in broad daylight…

  4. ynotaz . July 27, 2015

    Makes sense the red states are right to work states but draw down more federal dollars than blue states to keep afloat. We should support unions again. They are not the enemy, big business is. Time for Americans to rethink that Republican mantra high labor costs cause higher prices. Seriously, how has Scott Walker’s action against unions really helped Wisconsin’s economy? Trump is right Wisconsin is in trouble and Walker is looking for a new job. We have to stick together as a people. Republicans divide to conquer. That is not in our best interest. We need to support each other as Americans, like we did during WWII.

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    1. Independent1 July 27, 2015

      And talk about supporting a politician who has done nothing but drive a state into the ground, Scott Walker has done that in spades for Wisconsin – which is now 46th in the nation in job creation and is projecting a 2.2 billion budget deficit for the next 2 years. He’s also decimated the state’s unions and a good deal of its educational systems; he’s clearly made a disaster out of Wisconsin,.

      Yet like is pointed out in the above article, despite being a disaster as governor, he’s in many polls in second place behind Trump with over 15% of the GOP base saying they’d support him for being the GOP’s presidential candidate in 2016.

      1. Canistercook July 27, 2015

        Well most Wisconsinites seem to disagree with you

        1. Independent1 July 27, 2015

          Sorry, but as usual YOU ARE WRONG!!

          From a PPP poll taken 3 months ago:

          Those who say they approve of the job Walker is doing fell to 43 percent, while those who disapprove of the job he is doing increased to 52 percent. In late October, the same Democratic-leaning poll found 49 percent approved of Walker’s job performance, while 47 percent disapproved.

        2. Independent1 July 27, 2015

          And here’s another from Slate.com.

          From a poll taken within the last 2 weeks:

          59% of Wisconsinites don’t even want him to run for president:

          While Iowa Republicans might be excited by the prospect of a Walker presidency, there’s a nearby state where people are less fond of Walker: Wisconsin. The latest job approval numbers on Walker out of his state had him at a pitiful 41 percent in apair of April polls. His disapproval number in one poll by St. Norbert College, Wisconsin Public Radio, and Wisconsin Public Television was 58 percent, and in the same poll 59 percent of Wisconsin adults didn’t even want him to run for president. In that survey a full 60 percent of respondents said he would make a “poor” or “not so good” president, including 44 percent who went with the former.

          http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/07/13/scott_walker_poll_the_wisconsin_gov_is_very_unpopular_back_in_his_home_state.html

          1. paulyz July 28, 2015

            So now we know where you get you BS info, from Slate, a Liberal rag that has been around less than a year, LMAO.

          2. Independent1 July 29, 2015

            There’s a big difference between what most RWNJ websites publish and what those ‘left-leaning’ sites do: RWNJ websites post propaganda that they themselves concoct; while the article I posted here from Slate, is only REPORTING poll results from what a number of nonpartisan organizations in Wisconin found in their surveys. Which is exactly what most supposedly ‘left-wingers’ do – they DON’T MAKE UP NUMBERS they just REPORT THE TRUTH!!!!!!!!!

          3. paulyz August 1, 2015

            It’s been shown over & over that FOX News is the most factual, while MSNBS is 80% opinion. FOX always has Liberals on their news so people can hear both viewpoints, & decide for themselves, not be influenced by one-sided propaganda.

            Walker has turned around Wisconsin in an amazing short time, even in a mostly blue State, while fighting 3 elections including a trumped up recall with Millions spent from out of State Liberals, to lower property taxes 3 years in a row, erase a $2.7 Billion deficit into a large surplus, $320 Million, while increasing the rainy-day-fund to over $100 Million, increasing employment, tech. education funding, & training the disabled for employment. I live in WI. & have seen all this first-hand. This is why Walker, even though little known outside of WI. has risen so well in Presidential Polls, he would be an excellent President.

          4. Independent1 August 1, 2015

            I’m not even going to try and respond to your obvious pack a lies about Walker – the Latest 2-year Wisconsin budget projects 2.2 billion in DEFICITS!!

            The fact that you claim Faux News is most factual proves you’re nothing BUT A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR!!

            John Stewart’s 50 Fox News Lies in 6 seconds
            http://bluenationreview.com/jon-stewarts-50-fox-news-lies-6-seconds/

            Survey: NPR’s listeners best-informed, Fox viewers worst-informed
            http://www.poynter.org/news/mediawire/174826/survey-nprs-listeners-best-informed-fox-news-viewers-worst-informed/

            ‘Pants On Fire’: Analysis Shows 60% Of Fox News ‘Facts’ Are Really Lies
            http://www.mintpressnews.com/pants-on-fire-analysis-shows-60-of-fox-news-facts-are-really-lies/205563/

          5. dtgraham August 1, 2015

            You and Donald Trump agree. That 2.2 billion dollar deficit projects out to nearly 3 billion in 2015-2017.

            He’s destabilized Wisconsin’s fiscal framework and he’s cut school funding more per student than any Governor in America according to politifact Wisconsin and the Wisconsin budget project.

            They’re down 4300 teachers as enrollment has increased. Wisconsin now ranks 5th worst in the country in the depth of cuts to school funding.

            If that’s not enough, he refused the medicaid expansion that he didn’t even have to pay for and has condemned a lot of people in that state to no health insurance. Even Trump calls Wisconsin a disaster.

          6. paulyz August 2, 2015

            It’s been shown time after time time the amount of money spent for “education” hasn’t much to do with learning & test scores, mostly it is just spent on administration waste. By Walker cutting waste he actually saved many jobs in education, whearas States that did the opposite of Walker, lost jobs.

          7. paulyz August 1, 2015

            You obviously just listen to Socialist propaganda. I stated the FACTS about Gov. Walker, while you use leftist, anti-Walker “projections”. Even Trump was duped by those false figures.

            So Jon Stewart is some economic genius? He’s an extremely Liberal comedian for god’s sake, & your other news sources are a joke as well. You must be young and very gullible.

          8. ErnestineBass July 30, 2015

            Ummm…Slate was founded in 1996, rube.

          9. paulyz August 1, 2015

            Not the original Slate by Kinsley, believe they were bought out by others.

  5. Frank KIng July 27, 2015

    The SCOTUS deciding that “money is votes” is testament to the fact that right wing conservatism has been evolving into Fascism since the debacle of the Reagan administration. Corporations and the wealthy are now capable of determining the policies and direction for the majority of Americans that they may not want or accept. Representative Democracy has been a problem for some time but now is beyond repair.

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    1. Canistercook July 27, 2015

      Corporations are a group of people as are Unions a group of people,

      1. Matforce July 30, 2015

        Corporations have gained the upper hand through FTAs, monopolizing national, even global commerce, consolidating wealth to a small segment of the population (top .01%), while Unions have been decimated from over 30% in their heyday of the 40s through 60s (which coincides nicely with the USA heyday), to around 7% today…

  6. Canistercook July 27, 2015

    Well the Unions sure made Detroit poor!

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    1. Independent1 July 27, 2015

      It had nothing to do with unions!! It was all about companies like Bain Capital doing leverage buyouts of manufacturing company after manufacturing company and shipping their jobs overseas, coupled with the Bush Administration allowing the financial sector to run amok and trash the economy thereby putting the few manufacturing jobs left in Detroit on the brink of bankruptcy. So that a city and region that was heavily dependent on manufacturing was left holding the bag!!!

      1. Canistercook July 27, 2015

        That is what you would like to believe I guess, but when union workers were getting $18 an hour and the rest of us $5 GM cars got too expensive so we imported them because we rely also on our exports of produce and farm machinery along with aircraft!

        1. Independent1 July 27, 2015

          Sorry, that helped put GM and Chrysler on the verge of bankruptcy but it is not what made Detroit poor. GM is back in business making more profits the past several years than since back when Clinton was in office.

          It was the demise of many area manufacturing companies due to what I said – those that were forced into bankruptcy by the Great Recession, and t he many t hat were bought out by the likes of Romney with all their union jobs shipped overseas.

          Just like Romney did to Delphi during the auto bailouts when he and his hedgefund buddy Singer bought out Delphi, killed its 25,000 uniton jobs, pocketed the pension funds, and shipped Delphi overseas. Where Delphi now employs 100,000 in China, Mexico and elsewhere – with all their profits going outside the U.S.. While that was just an example of the companies Detroit lost to grossly unAmerican vultures like Romney which left the city struggling. It was not because union people were making $18 and hour.

        2. Independent1 July 27, 2015

          Given that you don’t know diddly squat about anything you post on, why don’t you leave us adults to our blogging and you go and play in your sandbox???

          1. Canistercook July 28, 2015

            Well when one gets to insulting others I guess I quit!

          2. Independent1 July 28, 2015

            I insulted out?? People are usually insulted when people call them something they’re not – I didn’t do that. Virtually all of your posts, other than quips, are never constructed to illicit some sort of intelligent response, they’re virtually always something you’ve concocted that’s intended to either demean the article or the subject of it, or it includes offhanded criticizm about someone or something.

            And why are you so thin skinned?? People who abet gangsters and murders are usually not thin skinned. You’re clearly a supporter of the GOP – a party that has become nothing but akin to the Italian Mafia, that goes about stealing taxpayer dollars any which way it can dream up, while also caring nothing about the fact that their policies also make them the party of PREMATURE DEATH.

            Virtually every state the GOP governs, BY FAR, leads the nation in premature death – in any manner you can conceive of – be it at birth, be it in giving birth, be it while driving a car, be it in some form of violence – and especially by gun.

            And you and your RWNJ cronies wonder why I devolve into calling you names when it becomes very clear what you really are – lowlifes and scumbags because you do nothing but support thieves and murders!!!!!

          3. Canistercook July 28, 2015

            {ndependent – that’s a laugh!

          4. Independent1 July 28, 2015

            So the fact that highway fatalities per 100,000 population in virtually every red state exceeds the national average of 10.3 (24 of 27) – is a laughing matter?

            State/Fatalities per 100,000 population – 2013
            WY/27.5
            MS/21.6
            AR/19.3
            MT/19.1
            AL/19.1
            KY/17.5
            SC/17.5
            SD/17.2
            WV/17.0
            NM/16.8
            TN/16.2
            LA/15.6
            ND/15.6
            KS/15.1
            NC/13.8
            MO/13.7
            ID/13.3
            FL/13.0
            GA/12.8
            ME/12.1
            AZ/11.9
            TX/11.9
            IN/11.6
            VT/11.3
            DE/11.2
            PA/10.4
            NE/10.4

            ——-NATIONAL AVERAGE 10.3

            WI/10.1

            So the fact than 9 of the 10 states with the most gun related violence and homicides in America are red states is a laughing matter?

            9 of the 10 States with the worst quality of life are Red States
            Analysis by 24/7 Wall Street
            Disposable income/Percent in poverty/

            Homicide Rate per 100,000/% that vote
            MS-23,957/24/7.3/74.5
            AL-25,584/19/6.4/61.9
            AR-24150/20/5.3/53.3
            WV-25,199/19/3.9/47.8
            TN-27,734/17/5.9/55.7
            OK/27,384/16/5.5/62.4
            SC-25,055/19/6.5/64.7
            LA/28,418/20/10.9/66.3
            NM-25,183/21/6.7/61.6
            GA-26,426/19/5.7/61.9

            Oops!! Posted the wrong list: Here’s the right one:
            9 of the 10 States with the most gun related violence are Red States Analysis by 24/7 Wall Street – 2012
            Homicides/Assaults/Violent Crime
            LA-9.53/99.51/555.3
            AK-4.22/80.47/606.5
            AL-5.92/40.50/420.1
            AZ-4.24/57.36/405.9
            MS-6.91/51.69/269.8
            SC-4.95/127.88/571.9
            NM-3.69/87.26/567.5
            MO-5.59/88.90/447.4
            GA-4.57/58.64/373.2
            AR-4.53/100.56/480.9

            So the fact that 11 of the 12 states with the highest infant mortality rates are red states is a laughing matter??

            -11 of the 12 states that have the highest infant
            mortality rates in the nation are RED STATES? With Mississippi having the highest infant mortality followed by Louisiana, Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas, S. Carolina, Delaware, North Carolina, Georgia, Oklahoma, Indiana & Ohio.

            And the fact that people in red states live 2-6 year shorter lives than people in Blue States is a laughing matter??

            -All 15 of the states with the lowest life expectancy in
            the U.S. are RED STATES?? Such that there is a large disparity in longevity between Red States and Blue States: on average, residents of blue states live 2 years longer than residents of red states. To the extreme, the Blue State
            residents of 9 states with longevity projected to 80 and older, live as much as 5-6 years longer than the residents of the 4 shortest-lived GOP-RUN STATES of MS,WV,AL & LA. Follow this: starting with longevity projections for red states of 75 in: Miss., W. Va., Ala. & LA.; to 76 in: Arkansas, Kentucky & Tennessee to 77 in: S. Carolina, Georgia, Missouri, Indiana, Ohio & N. Carolina; while no Blue State has a longevity projection of less than 78, and many Blue states have longevity projected to 80 and over: N.J., N.H., Vermont, N.Y., Mass., Calif., CT, Minn. & Hawaii; Only one red state has longevity projected to 80 Utah (80.2), while 2 Blue States have longevity projections of over 81 –Minn. & Hawaii)

            Why is it? When I converse with you RWNJs I always feel like I’m conversing with a follower of Charles Manson.

          5. @HawaiianTater July 28, 2015

            These people do not have the brain capacity to handle all the facts that you just threw at them. A RWNJ trying to read those numbers is the human equivalent of “does not compute”.

          6. paulyz July 28, 2015

            But you conveniently left out murders commited per 100,000 people by race & ethnicity, per State, completely messes up your Red State-Blue State BS. Typical Liberal devisive tactics.

          7. Canistercook July 30, 2015

            What happened in the rest of the states?

          8. Independent1 July 28, 2015

            And just in case you don’t believe that Ronald Reagan set America up for today’s GOP thievery, here are a couple graphs which show that it was Ronnie Boy who started today’s enormous income inequality and the hoarding of America’s money supply.

            The first graph shows how the wealthiest Americans really started sucking up America’s wealth and income; the second shows how often money changes hands: note how the frequency of money changing grew until right after 1980 when since then it has been plummeting because the top 1-10% are hoarding virtually all of America’s money, including in overseas accounts that lets them get out of paying their fair share of taxes.

          9. Canistercook July 28, 2015

            A lot of idiotic statistics.

          10. Independent1 July 28, 2015

            Obviously, when you’re a filthy RWNJ who chooses to be in total denial!!!

          11. paulyz August 2, 2015

            Yeah, he likes to act intelligent by scribbling long-winded, leftie propaganda.

          12. Canistercook July 30, 2015

            Because I don’t insult other peoples intelligence

        3. dtgraham July 28, 2015

          In 2010 Germany produced more than 5.5 million automobiles; the U.S produced 2.7 million. At the same time that the average auto worker in Germany made $67.14 per hour in salary and benefits; the average one in the U.S. made $33.77 per hour. Yet Germany’s big four car
          companies—BMW, Daimler, Porsche AG, and Volkswagen—are all profitable within union environments. Kinda blows that theory up.

          1. Canistercook July 28, 2015

            Wonder where you got your information from of the $67.14 the Germans made. Must be a very rich country!

          2. dtgraham July 29, 2015

            They are a very rich country. That was from Forbes, that bastion of socialism.

          3. Canistercook July 30, 2015

            And yet they can over sell their autos in the US!

          4. paulyz August 4, 2015

            With the unfair trade policies the US is saddled with our products are hit with high tariffs. Trump will do something about that, and Illegal Trespassing.

          5. Canistercook July 28, 2015

            Wonder why the taxpayers had to bail out GM then!

          6. Max_ July 28, 2015

            This is a blog run by some sick little Liberals and after they post their article’s they come and troll the comments, beating up anyone with a different opinion, they are sick haters, and if they could they would most likely kill you.. Or at the very least slap your butt into a re-education camp…. They are the new Weather Underground and Bill Ayers disciples and they don’t even know it…

          7. @HawaiianTater July 28, 2015

            Max, you truly are the expert in the slapping of butts. We all bow (bend?) to your wisdom.

          8. Max_ July 29, 2015

            Was that a homosexual joke? you bigot, Yeah you people always seek to silence your opposition, you can’t handle any debate, if people don’t see things your way they just gotta be mental defectives, That will prove to be your undoing in life, that’s why you’re all such miserable S O B’s…
            Carry on carry on….
            Hey, how about that Hillary Ha ha ha..
            And what about those Planned parenthood videos? kinda give ya the willies don’t they?

          9. @HawaiianTater July 29, 2015

            Don’t get butt sore over the topic of butt slapping.

          10. paulyz August 4, 2015

            Could that be considered being insulting to gays, according to the Democrat/Socialist agendas?

          11. @HawaiianTater August 4, 2015

            Or… maybe it is that IDGAF.

          12. Matforce July 28, 2015

            Germany, a fellow member of the WTO, realizes their nation’s survival in this global economy depends on the co-nationalized promotion of their high-end, precision manufacturing sector, and takes steps to protect their national interest from the complete sell-out to blind capitalism we’re witnessing in the USA today.
            To protect Deutchland’s national interest, as well as the interest of their populous, Germany maintains a national share in its industries (not a controlling share), encourages Unionization of its workforce to keep wages high and consumer dynamism high, and imposes a 19% tariff on most imports (except some agri. and natural resources), as well as a VAT to protect their manufacturing sector from the effects of the offshoring of jobs. (Example: China tried to “dump” (a term that describes the practice of using gov. subsidies to market a product cheaper than it cost to make it so as to gain a foothold in a market) cheap bikes in German markets.) Germany tariff ed these goods their usual 19% plus an 85% VAT) Might as well buy Made in Germany with those high German Union wages…

          13. dtgraham July 29, 2015

            Exactly. Well said. Germany actually runs a trade surplus with China annually and I’m not sure how many nations do.

            Besides the obvious quality of their products Germany uses the comparatively weak Euro, which is really under appreciated as a benefit to Germany’s participation in the currency union, to boost it’s exports.

            If Germany were still using the Deutschemark, which I think would be much stronger than the Euro is today, that would reduce the cost advantage of German exports substantially.

            Nevertheless, as you say, the German trade surplus is further increased by tight fiscal policies that suppress the country’s domestic spending on imports.

          14. Matforce July 29, 2015

            USA trade deficits of over $HALF a TRILLION/yr. since 2003 coincide with China gaining admittance into the WTO two years earlier.

          15. Canistercook July 30, 2015

            Germany pays what the market will bear! That is why it can sell its autos!

          16. Matforce July 30, 2015

            Germany does NOT pit their workers in a race to the bottom with China (avg. wage $1.36/hr.), or Vietnam Nam (avg. wage 75 cents/hr.), etc., etc., etc.

          17. Matforce July 30, 2015

            Are you an Austrian, Von Mises adherent?

          18. Canistercook July 30, 2015

            Dream on!

          19. Independent1 August 2, 2015

            Today most parts of Europe have a $12 minumum wage, and McDonald’s and other fast foods outlets there are more profitable than ones in American paying around $8/hour. And t hat
            s because even the McDonald’s workers can afford to buy items off of it’s menu that are profitable. Rather than like here in the U.S. when many McDonald’s customers, including their workers, make close to our min wage and are forced to order off of what was the $1 menu which often includes loss leaders with little or no profit in selling them.

            It’s only stupid conservatives such as yourself that can’t see THAT by raising the min wage that it would increase PROFITS FOR VIRTUALLY EVERY BUSINESS!!!

        4. Allan Richardson July 30, 2015

          The problem then is NOT that union workers were making $18, the problem is that everyone ELSE who works hard is NOT. A country full of middle class consumers should be able to buy the products made by their fellow middle class consumers/workers.

          1. Canistercook July 30, 2015

            A good part of our economy depends on exporting what we make! To sell you have to buy!

      2. JPHALL July 27, 2015

        The same things happened in Pittsburg and Baltimore.

      3. Canistercook July 30, 2015

        And couldn’t sell what it produced!

    2. ralphkr July 28, 2015

      Of course, Canistercook, the fact that factories changed from being mulistory buildings in the city of Detroit to being sprawling buildings in the much cheaper farmland outside the city and the well paid union workers following the factories out of town had absolutely nothing to do with Detroit being poor. Actually, today’s Detroit is two cities consisting of the wealthy center and wealthy enclaves plus the impoverished third world city surrounding the wealthy areas.

      1. Canistercook July 30, 2015

        Well you have to sell what you make!

        1. ralphkr July 30, 2015

          True, Canistercook, and in those days US manufacturers were able to sell all they could make running 3 shifts a day but my point is that when all the factories moved out of Detroit to build their sprawling factories on cheaper farmland that Detroit not only lost the property taxes on the factories but also lost all the highly paid union labor that followed the factories to new housing in the suburbs and, therefore, a huge market base loss for Detroit businesses.

  7. IntelliWriter July 27, 2015

    Good article. What’s not discussed is the use of shiny objects to distract people from voting in their best interests. Instead they’ll chase after gay marriage, women’s reproductive rights, and the non-existent assault on religious freedom and pull the R lever every time.

    Reply
    1. Canistercook July 27, 2015

      Well the latest scares put out to buy votes ‘:Cuts coming to SS and Medicare ‘
      by the Democrats. Teddy Roosavelt used that one

      1. JPHALL July 27, 2015

        By the way, Teddy Roosevelt was a Republican before founding the progressive Bull Moose party. Yes that is right. In 1912 the Republicans were a progressive, not conservative party

      2. Allan Richardson July 30, 2015

        Except that that “scare” is exactly what the program of the Republican candidates IS. It’s not a “scare” if it’s true.

        1. Matforce August 1, 2015

          “Vouchers should replace Medicare,” (Paul Ryan), revisited by Jeb Bush recently

  8. Insinnergy July 27, 2015

    Ahh the GOP… Their God is money… their philosophy is Greed… and they are engaged in a race to the bottom due to the amazing degree of voter stupidity extant in the US which is fueled largely by the religious… who don’t need little things like facts or evidence to believe things they are told by a white guy in a suit.
    Amen.

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  9. Michael Ross July 27, 2015

    It’s simple to understand: Republican voters are all at least subconsciously aware that the G.O.P. platform is a con. The problem is that they have delusions of being in on the con with them.

    White working class voters who identify with Joe “The Plumber” Wurzelbacher believe the con is being played on minorities and immigrants — that voting rights are going to be rolled back so that white men will be allowed to vote for their own interests at the expense of all else.

    An equally large population consisting of both whites and minorities believe the con is being played on non-Christians — that a fundamentalist dictatorship is about to be instated which will ensure only those who go to Church on Sunday will have any rights in America.

    Millionaires like Ben Carson and Herman Cain, meanwhile, believe the con is being played on the 99% — that voting rights will be further tied to assets until only the wealthy elite truly have any say anymore.

    Carson and Cain are more correct, but they are incorrect in their assumption that they are intended to be within the ruling percentage. The con is not being played for the benefit of the top 1% — it’s being played for the benefit of the top 0.0001%.

    America’s G.O.P. is not tricking Americans into thinking that conservatism works. It’s tricking Americans into thinking they are the ones who will disproportionately benefit.

    Reply
    1. Matforce July 30, 2015

      THIS is just soooo good! I’ve thought a lot about your post since first reading it a few nights ago. A brilliant commentary, IMHO, which explains a lot.
      I’m still trying to figure out how much of the perspectual buy-in is “subconscious” awareness…, or if the GOP has so mastered the dog-whistle, red meat catch phrases that the general public’s buy-in is a genuine reflex of a moral, decent folk whose outrage has been piqued by right wing rhetorical fabrications (lies).

      1. paulyz August 4, 2015

        All the lies have come from Obama & lifer Congressmen, 100% of Dems. & Rinos, haven’t you heard?

    2. paulyz August 2, 2015

      Whew, are you delusional.

  10. paulyz July 28, 2015

    More liberal policies & tremendous amounts of spending on social programs over the past several decades, and the Liberals have no answer to ever worsening problems, but to again “blame” someone else. A good economy by high employment is what created our middle-class, something we have been seriously lacking the last 7 years. (Oh I forgot, that is Bush’s fault.)

    Reply
    1. Matforce July 28, 2015

      “Liberal” policy coming out of the Great Depression, designed to fortify a massive prosperous middle class with ample disposable income, coupled with that 90% marginal tax rate on the USA’s top earners, created the most prosperous, progressive, and powerful nation this world has ever seen. And the Great Depression was caused by what…???

      1. @HawaiianTater July 28, 2015

        I keep hearing conservatives say they want to take our country back. Back to what, exactly? It’s the past 35 years of conservative trickle down economics that put us in the mess we are in now. If they want to take us back, they would be going back to the liberal policies of the New Deal era. Unless they want to take us back to the Great Depression… which, if you really think about it, might actually be what they want because that’s what their policies would give us.

        1. Matforce July 28, 2015

          Agreed!
          Back then, those whose fortunes rode on Wall Street returns, along with those in the investment industry and banks watched helplessly as “demand” for goods and services dried up, causing warehouses to fill up with surplus and prices to fall in response to dwindling consumer vitality because common worker wages stagnated in this 1920s version of corporate domination focused on stock returns we’re seeing today. By squeezing more, more, more from the working stiff, determined to put nothing back as they offshore jobs and sit on $5 TRILLION in cash stashed in offshore accounts we’re witnessing a repeat of a century ago. We never learn!

          1. @HawaiianTater July 28, 2015

            I keep trying to tell people this but stoopid conservatives will not listen. Everything we are seeing now, we have seen before. When you’ve got Wall Street and the banks running wild while all the money gets concentrated at the top, the entire system collapses. Yet, these morons not only want to go back to the same Dubya policies that led to the recession, they actually gotten a lot more extreme right in the meantime. The economy has barely recovered from the last conservative disaster. If they got back in the WH again so soon, it would lead to a full blown Great Depression part 2.

        2. paulyz August 2, 2015

          Back to the opposite of Obama’s Socialism that has created much poverty & division for starters.Obama’s so-called recovery is worse than the last recession caused by Democrats Dodd-Frank subprime loan fiasco.

          1. @HawaiianTater August 2, 2015

            It never ceases to amaze me that there are people in the world who are stupid enough to believe this drivel. If you are dumb enough to believe trickle down economics helps anyone other than the 1%, you deserve to be trickled on.

          2. Independent1 August 2, 2015

            But he’s being paid by the 1% to say all this garbage. So discussing anything with this mindless fascist is an enormous waste of time.

          3. @HawaiianTater August 2, 2015

            That’s why I didn’t bother proving him wrong with a point by point analysis. Anyone that far gone isn’t going to be swayed by facts, so there is no point in wasting your time on them.

          4. Independent1 August 2, 2015

            Yep!! stupid is as stupid does. And you can’t fix stupid.

          5. Independent1 August 2, 2015

            Now all we need to do is get all the conservatives in America who support the GOP to wear one.

          6. @HawaiianTater August 2, 2015

            An appropriate shirt for them would be “I’m with stupid” and an arrow that points up.

          7. paulyz August 8, 2015

            You don’t bother because you know your “facts” are BS, but you don’t really have any answers except juvenile drivel.

          8. @HawaiianTater August 8, 2015

            Damn, son. It sure took you long enough to come up with that response. You even had to borrow my use of the word “drivel”. Laughing at your stupid is good fun.

          9. paulyz August 4, 2015

            Would be very easy to check out if you wern’t completely taken in by your Liberal/Socialist news sources. You also need to realize how radically left the Democrat Party from past times has turned. THEY, as well as the GOP “leadership”, do not have Liberty by the People in their big Federal Government plans & policies.

          10. @HawaiianTater August 4, 2015

            There is no point wasting time trying to explain this to people as delusional as you. Just know that your special brand of stupid is a dying breed. Remember that when you’re whining ever increasingly louder over your imagined slights.

          11. dpaano November 11, 2015

            Interesting considering the deficit has gone down significantly since President Obama was elected, the unemployment rate has gone down significantly, and I could go on and on. However, as I said earlier, you can’t make you believe anything because you’re so close-minded and believe ONLY what your GOP bosses tell you to believe without doing any checking on your own! Good luck with that!

      2. paulyz August 1, 2015

        I believe it was a great economy that caused a great middle-class, with high employment & good wages, not the Federal Government.

        1. Independent1 August 1, 2015

          And just where do you think that ‘great middle-class’ came from dumbcoff?? It came from establishing FEDERAL POLICIES that required that EVERYONE PAY THEY FAIR SHARE OF TAXES, and abide by legislation that forced corporations TO PLAY THE CAPITALIST GAME FAIRLY.

          Ever since Reagan started greatly tipping the balance of taxes and federal regulations TO FAVOR CORPORATIONS, the ‘great middle class’ has been going DOWNHILL.

          ONLY CLEARLY LOW IQ DUMBCOFFS LIKE YOURSELF COULD EVER BELIEVE THAT A MIDDLE CLASS COULD BE ESTABLISHED AND REMAIN STRONG WITHOUT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REGULATIONS ESTABLISH GUIDELINES THAT FORCE CAPITALISTS TO PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES AND PLAY THE CAPITALISM GAME FAIRLY!!

          Here’s SEVERAL graphs that show how Reagan started the demize of the middle class by cutting taxes more than in half, starting the destruction of unions, destroying the bond companies had with their workers saying corporations should focus on stockholders and careless about their workers, and brainwashed the GOP into believing his trickle-down economics fantasy (WORST PRESIDENT EVER – REAGAN!!!)

          (The 1st two graphs show how the upper 10% is sucking all our country’s wealth and income; the last graph shows how the upper 10% is hoarding all the money – keeping it out of circulation even in overseas accounts (it shows how even the frequency with which money changes hands started a sharp downward spiral with REAGAN!!!)

          OH! And notice in the 2ND graph how IT’S THE MIDDLE CLASS WHO HAS TAKEN THE BIGGEST HIT THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IN LOSING INCOME!! ALL THANKS TO THE DESTRUCTIVE POLICIES STARTED BY RONALD REAGAN!!!

          1. David August 1, 2015

            Like Obomo said, “You didn’t build that.” The Government is who we should thank for everything we have. We need Federal regulations in order to prosper. We only thought that the strength of this country was based upon free enterprise.

        2. Independent1 August 1, 2015

          And IT’S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT that ensures that every citizen gets an ample share of prosperity in America, NOT ONLY WITH RESPECT TO INCOME, BUT ALSO WITH RESPECT TO JOBS.

          And HERE’S A GRAPH THAT PROVES THAT WHEN A DEMOCRAT IS IN THE PRESIDENCY, AMERICANS, ALL AMERICANS, ALWAYS DO BETTER THAN WHEN THERE’S A REPUBLICAN IN THE PRESIDENCY!! ALWAYS!!!

          DEMOCRATS BY FAR DRIVE HIGHER GDP GROWTH, JOBS GROWTH AND EVEN STOCK MARKET GROWTH!! ALL THE CURRENT GAINS IN THE STOCK MARKET WERE ACHIEVED DURING DEMOCRAT PRESIDENTS – THE NET GAIN IN THE MARKET DURING ALL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENCIES SINCE THE ’29 STOCK MARKET CRASH IS ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!

          1. Max_ August 1, 2015

            Ha ha…………………………
            Facts Are Facts=> Obama Owns Worst Economic Numbers in 80 Years, Since 1932
            http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/facts-are-facts-obama-owns-worst-economic-numbers-in-80-years-since-1932/

            It has taken you 6 days to get 84 comments and most of them are you, thank God there aren’t that many idiots out there buying your BS. But who knows, never underestimate the foolishness of the American voting public, especially with voting machines and Democrats manning the poles…

          2. Matforce August 1, 2015

            Coming out of the Great Depression, with its lessons fresh
            on the minds of our nation and its elected officials, policies were enacted to fortify and bolster the middle class. To kick start a recovery, Roosevelt enacted New Deal work programs for the displaced workers like the CCC, CWA, and PWA. Then policies like The Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, The Wagner Act, otherwise known as The National Labor Relations Act, and later, the Employment Act of 1946, were measures enacted to fortify the middle class. The Glass-Steagall Act separated the investment banks from commercial banks, and marginal tax rates were set at 90%. These measures, it was agreed, were
            necessary to fortify the middle class (create and sustain a dynamic consumer market), stabilize the financial sector, and practically assure the investment of capital back into the USA.

            These measures were met with bitter opposition and cries of
            protest from the financial and business sectors and their friends and profit protectors in Congress who claimed they were “unconstitutional,” an “infringement on freedoms,” “socialism,” etc. … Sound familiar?

            But look at the results! For the remainder of most of the 20th century, the USA cultivated the world’s premier, most prosperous consumer economy. The cumulative effect of employing millions of high wage workers resulted not only in the clearing of retail shelves (demand) and the uptick in
            production, but in the filling of local, state, and federal treasuries. To get a tax break, our wealthy INVESTED their vast wealth in the USA: A win-win-win set-up. Our middle class was gainfully employed, our wealthy received outstanding returns on their INVESTMENTS, taxed at a fraction of their marginal rate or 90%, and our treasuries were plush with
            cash.

            Together, we were able to achieve the largest expansion in US history, create a “social safety net” (Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid, unemployment compensation, etc.), develop the world’s most powerful military, rebuild post WWII Europe and Japan (The Marshall Plan), win the Race to the Moon, AND win the Cold War against the competing Communist system.

          3. Max_ August 1, 2015

            If you are trying to say Demoncrats were or are responsible for all things good in the World, then your head is in a dark and smelly place.. Anything everything Roosevelt did could be debated no end, I don’t care to do that ,, The Glass-Steagall Act surprisingly along with the FDIC(are the best things to come out of the New Deal) they truly were a great thing especially considering that the Banksters had pretty much full control of America at that point, but even so, Carter Glass was a interesting fellow here is just one more thing that can be claimed by the Demoncrats
            The 1902 Constitution instituted a poll tax and required bulk payment after a voter missed elections, making voting a luxury that poor people, which included many African-Americans, could not often afford. The Constitution also required that voters pass a literacy test, a poll test on the Virginia Constitution, with their performance graded by the registrar. When questioned as to whether these measures were potentially discriminatory, Glass exclaimed, “Discrimination! Why that is exactly what we propose. To remove every negro voter who can be gotten rid of, legally, without materially impairing the numerical strength of the white electorate. Indeed, the number of African-Americans qualified to vote dropped from 147,000 to 21,000 immediately…..
            The Glass Steagall was done away with by Clinton and all Hell broke loose, You see Old Man Bush The Clinton’s Baby Bush and Now Obama all work for the same creatures, The multinational Corporations the Globalists or Internationalists if you prefer, but no-matter what you call them they are a international Mafia a criminal cabal a shadow Government bent on the complete control of every man woman child and resource on this PLANET, and you stupid S O B’s are helping them to accomplish their every last wish and dream.. Fools!! all of you are self righteous psycho pseudo intellectual gullible delusional morons.. Judas Goats, selling out your country and all its people.. Using the Left against the Right and vice versa happens to be one of The Powers That Be best studied and applied tricks; through this one simple trick they pretty much control the entire World… You FOOLS

          4. Matforce August 2, 2015

            Surprise, surprise – we agree on something… (not your last few sentences, though…lol). What we agree on is the existence of the Illuminati, Bilderbergers, whatever you want to call them. Clinton, Bush, they’re all a part of the power brokers that trace their existence to the Rothchild dynasty and $$$MONEY$$$. To lash out and proclaim in your bold, insulting diatribe against all Democrats (I voted straight ticket GOP for over 30 years, because they tossed the Christian faithful a rhetorical bone, and espoused all things conservative, etc.), and then tie them alone to the Illuminati, is either naïve, or willfully deceptive, as a look at a short list of POLICIES we’ve been referring to in these discussions would reveal the voting records from both sides of the isle when these ruinous, treasonous Bills were passed in our pay-to-play legislature.

          5. Max_ August 2, 2015

            I lash out and proclaim in my bold, insulting diatribe against both Party’s, Democrats just happen to be helping TPTB the most Right now by supporting Obama like he is a God…….. Our system is corrupt, completely corrupt, they all go to Washington with some dough, some more than others, but if they spend any time there at all they all come home with healthy Life long pensions, health care and bloated bank accounts, cushy corporate jobs, a lot even end up with hefty off shore or Swiss Bank accounts…. Both Party’s……
            If they buck the system they end up disgraced, discredited or dead,,,,…..

            Using the Left against the Right and vice versa happens to be one of The Powers That Be best studied and applied tricks; through this one simple trick they pretty much control the entire World…

          6. Matforce August 2, 2015

            So IMHO, it makes perfect sense for “we the people” of the USA to UNITE TOGETHER! Is it too much to ask that we somehow balance our current $$$MONEY$$$ for influence, pay-to-play, corrupt system of legislation, including corporate lobbyists, their lawyers and teams of institutional expert panels, with those whose interest is in the interest of “we the people” and that of the national interest of The United States of America? Notice, I didn’t say United States of Plutocracy? Now there’s a thesis for you!

            Good starting point would be a study of what James Madison, a founding Father foresaw during the penning of the Constitution:

            “In every political society, parties are unavoidable. A difference of interests, real or supposed, is the most natural and fruitful source of them. The great object should be to combat the evil:

            1. By establishing a political equality among all.

            2. By withholding unnecessary opportunities from a few, to increase the inequality of property, by an immoderate, and especially an unmerited, accumulation of riches.

            3. By the silent operation of laws, which, without violating the rights of property, reduce extreme wealth towards a state of mediocrity, and raise extreme indigence towards a state of comfort.

            4. By abstaining from measures which operate differently on different interests, and particularly such as favor one interest at the expense of another.

            5. By making one party a check on the other, so far as the existence of parties cannot be prevented, nor their views accommodated. If this is not the language of reason, it is that of republicanism.”

            BALANCE!

          7. Max_ August 2, 2015

            Well we do seem to agree.. My only complaint at this site or with anyone here has been the aggrandizing of the Democrat party and the vilifying of the Republican Party, When they are just two sides of the same coin.. Also the aggrandizing of Obama over all the other puppets, when they all, at that level work for the same creatures.. And what has seemed to me to be the complete ignorance of our current plight… I think the fact that the entire World is a pure and evil Plutocracy is a given, now a days they also have unbelievable technologies at their disposal.. So now I would say that they “TPTB” have developed into “Technocratic kleptocratic Plutocracy”….. {;~)

          8. dpaano November 11, 2015

            One place you’re wrong….they don’t get lifetime pension benefits. They get the same things most of us have…..401(k) plans. Nor do they get lifetime health benefits. You may want to check on that before you state things that may not be totally correct.

          9. Max_ November 11, 2015

            mensa? do people really buy that? I think its funny that you even list that. straw man much?
            I took this from one of your very own propaganda sources so you might believe it..

            http://www.factcheck.org/2015/01/congressional-pensions-update/

            http://www.snopes.com/politics/socialsecurity/pensions.asp

          10. dpaano November 11, 2015

            See…just proves what I said above….rightwing idiots won’t believe ANYTHING you tell them, even if you give them proof! And where they got the info that President Obama had the worse economic numbers in 80 years is beyond me!!! It doesn’t go with everything else that has been proven.

          11. Max_ November 11, 2015

            Again too smart by half, not worth my time..
            Your idea of proof is just easily countered propaganda, you just want to believe, so you do..

            See ya.. Good luck to yeah. The end is nigh.

          12. paulyz August 2, 2015

            What a pure Communist you are. So it’s the Federal Governments role to make sure we all earn equal amounts? Has nothing to do with ambition, intelligence, hard work, sacrafice, responsibility, education……? With your failed system, why would most people aspire to anything if the Federal Gov. ensures they will earn the same as an irresponsible, lazy, unambitious, uneducated person? We know you Liberals have tried with your quotas, special favors, head start, wealth redistribution schemes for votes that have failed miserably. You never learn, just spend & tax more, then wonder why everything is so screwed up.

          13. dpaano November 11, 2015

            Good try, Independent1; however, a Republican won’t believe anything you tell them….even with a graph. They are so close-minded that they only believe what they’re fed by the GOP bosses! It’s unfortunate that they are continually lied to and they actually don’t see the lies.

        3. Matforce August 1, 2015

          The great wage disparity that has occurred over the past 30 years has consolidated wealth at the top like we haven’t seen since the days of the Robber Barons a century ago. Maybe you think that there’s something wrong with a USA that promoted all of its citizens’ prosperity, but I don’t; it’s smart business. A middle class with disposable income will bolster retail sales and crank up the economy (this is if this increase actually boosts production in the USA and results in paychecks going into the pockets of USA workers like it used to do before the middle class was kicked to the curb for sweatshop labor on foreign soil.) Even so, during the past 30 years real output in the business sector grew by 140%. Real compensation per hour (includes wages, benefits, pensions, and health insurance) increased by only 38% for the middle class worker.

          Post WWII, 1947-1979 America shared equally in the increase in output. During those years the increase that the bottom 20%
          received was 116%, the top 20% got an increase of 99%, and the middle quintiles increased somewhere within that range.

          Then the world flipped! From 1980 to 2007 the rich took practically all the increase in income. Over those decades, the poor received only a 15% increase and the middle three quintiles got a 25% increase, while the top 20% got a 95% increase and the top 1% received a raise of close to 300%, and they were being compensated fabulously before this 30 year trend began. (Paul Heise, PhD, Economics).

    2. Canistercook July 30, 2015

      Well they have to find someone to blame! Barney Frank and ‘removing the red lined areas from the banks’ did not help and the easy lending of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae pushed home prices through the roof! No wonder they collapsed!

      1. Matforce July 30, 2015

        See The Gramm, Leach, Bliley Act and the repeal of The Glass-Steagall Act, then investigate the lucrative bonus system involved in the bundling of sub-prime, distressed mortgages into A-rated bonds, then selling them off in A-rated, FDIC backed market bonds. Was anyone indicted when it was decided it was necessary to bail out the banks and shore up an economy to the tune of over $2 TRILLION when you tally the damage to banks, construction trades, building materials markets, real estate values, unemployment compensation, etc., all of which depended on the dastardly Fed. pouring more, more, more fiat currency into the system. A system derailed by the deregulation of our financial institutions by right wing deregulation policy in their attempt to unleash their darling the financial in

    3. Matforce August 1, 2015

      The USA trend toward supply side economics (1980s) began the ball rolling, but what sealed the fate of our middle class was NAFTA; Bush Sr., Mulroney, and Salias baby that came up for a vote during Clinton’s presidency, a bill he had the arduous jobs of coaxing a reticent democratic caucus to supply the necessary votes for its passage amidst overwhelming Republican support.

      1. paulyz August 2, 2015

        You are so full of it, Clinton signed the NAFTA Agreement with votes from a huge number of Democrats & Republicans. Quit always trying to pass the blame. Ross Perot would had most likely won as a 3rd. Party candidate, had he not dropoed out, then come back. He warned us about that “great sucking sound”. Exactly why we need Trump now, the entire Democrat Party is corrupt as well as the GOP Establishment Leadership, that “compromises” with the Great Obama. Try voting for a real Conservative, you will be wonderfully surprised.

        1. Matforce August 2, 2015

          HOUSE
          Dems- yea-102, ney-156
          Reps- yea-132 ney-43
          SENATE
          Dems- yea-26, ney-28
          Reps- yea-34, ney-10

      2. Independent1 August 2, 2015

        I’m not convinced that NAFTA is as much the culprit of declining manufacturing jobs in America as everyone would like to believe, I think people are giving too little credence to what Mitt Romney started with Bain Capital. I think the legislation that made it legal for companies like Bain to buy out manufacturing companies, manipulate them in a way that they could ultimately push them into bankruptcy, where they could make deals in foreign countries to pick up the destroyed unionized and other jobs, make millions in profits by selling off the assets, and millions more in pocketing the pension funds while dumping the pension liabilities on the taxpayers, has had far more to do with destroying union jobs in America than NAFTA ever did. Mitt was involved in working out a deal to do just that the week before the 2012 elections.. Just because he left Bain didn’t mean he wasn’t working out deals with his hedge fund buddies to buy out and kill in America just one more manufacturing company.

        1. Matforce August 2, 2015

          You are absolutely right with your investigstion into and assessment of these deals. I saw similar pieces of work with a major USA snack Co. maybe Little Debbies, as we as a sensor company, Sensata, I believe it was called.
          NAFTA was the start, but the WTO which opened MFN status with Red China, and included Vietnam, Indonesia, Taiwan, etc., and the more recent FTA between the USA, Panama, Columbia, and Korea gave corporations access to cheap labor as well as tariff free access to USA markets. But the upcoming TPP, some are calling NAFTA on steroids, trumps them all as it would grant an international board the power to establish trade laws that reportedly have the power to sue nation’s that, for example, have prohibitive environmental laws, (clean air & water, etc.) in place; a national provision that could impede the maximization of corporate profit margin, and would allow corpoations to sue offending nation’s to recover their “losses.”

  11. Canistercook July 28, 2015

    Wonder how Walker beat the re-call with all that Union money pored in!

    Reply
    1. Independent1 July 28, 2015

      Like the GOP in 2000 and since – HE CHEATED!!!

      1. paulyz August 2, 2015

        Holy Crap, you are still upset because Algore lost in a fair election. Bush was the one that actually lost votes because of the way they set up some of the ballots, plus not giving time for our military votes overseas. Give it up already you gullible fool.

        1. dpaano November 11, 2015

          Unfortunately, it was NOT a fair election….please try to educate yourself to the facts.

    2. Matforce July 28, 2015

      Google: “The Integration of Theory and Practice” for starters. Then bring yourself up to speed on the expressed interests of organizations and the Elite members who populate them, like Americans for Prosperity, Heritage Foundation, CATO Institute, Free Congress Foundation, ALEC, etc., and you should be able to discern the aims of the GOP

    3. Allan Richardson July 30, 2015

      The truth is that “all that union money” is peanuts compared to what corporate bosses can and did feed to the right wing media. Citizens United allows the CEO of a corporation to spend his STOCKHOLDERS’ money secretly on political, not legitimately business, expenses, with no accountability to those stockholders, much less the customer base (who might well boycott that corporation if they knew the facts).

      A union, on the other hand, cannot make political expenditures without asking its rank and file members to make EXTRA VOLUNTARY contributions to a clearly defined political fund; its officers cannot legally spend general fund money on politics. This idea is a LIE by right wingers intended to scare workers into voting to make their own protection against exploitation illegal or unavailable. This is NOT the era of Jimmy Hoffa; it is regressing to the era of union suppression which caused the Haymarket riots.

      1. Canistercook July 30, 2015

        Well they sure toss in a lot to support Union supporters like Brown etc.

  12. Canistercook August 4, 2015

    What you make you have to sell!!!! They shipped it overseas because America has to compete in a world market as much of our income depends on exports. Unfortunately many Union members do not understand what it takes. We sell produce, airplanes, farm machinery etc throughout the world but we have to compete with China and Germany etc. Detroit became non-competitive! The $15 an hour wage is not good news for our economy but will buy Democratic votes I guess!

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  13. Amos Farrell August 12, 2015

    Imagine an Elephant in a zoo. He has free food, free health care, safe and clean place to live, is protected from predators and lives longer than the average elephant. Now imagine one in the wild. Life is tough, there are shortages of food, drought, predators, but you live in the wild, no fences, no barriers. Also, you’re a Buddhist, so when you die, (sorry, you’re not that advanced, yet) you come back as an Elephant. But just before you get sent back, you can choose between the two lives described above. Who has the better life? There is no right answer. If you’re a liberal, you choose the zoo. I choose nature.

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