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Cancel The Food Drive! Walmart Can Easily Afford To Pay Its Full-Time Workers $25,000 A Year

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Cancel The Food Drive! Walmart Can Easily Afford To Pay Its Full-Time Workers $25,000 A Year

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Walmart is the nation’s biggest beneficiary of food stamps.

Last year the mammoth retailer received an estimated $18 billion in subsidies directed to it through its customers who receive Supplementary Nutritional Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits. But that’s not the only way the company is on “welfare.”

Its employees are also often beneficiaries of Medicaid and other public assistance to the point that taxpayers subsidize the company by as much as $900,000 a store.

Despite the generous help from the government, one Walmart store in Ohio held a food drive for its own employees. The nation’s largest retailer could relieve the burden it places on the public — and its own employees — in a pretty simple way: raising wages.

Salon‘s Josh Eidelson — who relentlessly tracks the growing pressure from organized labor to improve conditions for low-wage workers — reports that Walmart “pegs its average hourly wage at $12.78, but that figure includes managers and excludes workers who aren’t full-time. Drawing on 2011 IBISworld data and GlassDoor.com surveys, OUR Walmart activists have pegged the wage at less than $9 per hour.”

A 2011 study from UC Berkeley Center for Labor Research and Education found that if Walmart raised its minimum wage to $12 — an increase of $1,670 to $6,500 per year per employee — and passed the entire cost of the hike on to consumers, the result would be an increase of 1.1 percent in prices. Walmart’s prices are reportedly about 15 percent below its competitors’.

But the company could offer its employees a raise of $5.83 an hour, guaranteeing that no full-time associate would earn less than $25,000 a year, according to a new study from the progressive think tank Demos, and it would “not cost the company or its customers one additional dime.” All it would have to do is stop buying back its own stock and paying dividends.

“The six heirs of Sam Walton, founder of Walmart, are already among the world’s wealthiest people, with a combined net worth of $144.7 billion,” the report’s authors Catherine Ruetschlin and Amy Traub note. “In 2010, when the family’s fortune was worth ‘just’ $89.5 billion, it was already greater than the total financial assets of the least-wealthy 41.5 percent of American families combined.” Demos estimates that last year, while many of its employees were in poverty and forced to turn to taxpayer assistance, the Walton family took in $2.66 billion in dividend payments.

The report suggests that by “reinvesting” in its own employees, the retailer would also reduce employee turnover, estimated at 500,000 people leaving the company every year. This generous assertion doesn’t acknowledge that cycling new employees in and out of stores may be a strategy to prevent workers from organizing, which could lead to demands for actual livable wages.

Because if Walmart ever had any intention of compensating its employees so that they wouldn’t need charity from the government or their colleagues, this report suggests that it could do so right now.

AFP/Scott Olson

111 Comments

  1. Dominick Vila November 26, 2013

    The refusal of large retailers like WalMart, the hospitality industry, and other sectors of our economy to pay livable wages to their employees has absolutely nothing to do with affordability. What drives their opposition to something that we should all believe in, is the potential impact to shareholder expectations. Our society is rapidly changing from one dominated by a large and successful middle class, to one dominated by elitists whose only concern is the accumulation of wealth, regardless of how that goal is achieved and how many fellow Americans suffer the consequences of their greed. It is all about numero uno, and most of us are in the sub-zero range.

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    1. bhaggen November 27, 2013

      In reality, you can only blame the greed of the American consumer for Wal-Mart’s success. I personally am willing to pay the extra 10% to stay away from that shithole. Same goes for the “Jiffy Lube” places. If you “shop” at these places you are the problem. P-p-period!

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      1. Dominick Vila November 27, 2013

        I paid dearly for going to a Jiffy Lube several years ago. They convinced me to change the four wheel drive transmission fluid in my old SUV before a trip to Maryland and when I tried to engage the 4-wheel drive during a snow storm the whole thing disintegrated. Jiffy replaced the transmission fuel with regular motor oil. They compensated me for most of the expenses, but I would not go back again even if the service was free.

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        1. bhaggen November 28, 2013

          You missed or avoided my point. You could have had your SUV serviced by the dealer or reputable independent repair facility, but chose the cheap route instead, where they employ under skilled workers for minimum wage while the skilled technicians are laid off from higher priced repair shops who invest in the proper training & support systems to do the job right. As an experienced technician I suspect it was the transfer case and that would be fluid, not fuel…….Like I said, the American consumer is making the rich richer. You are guilty as charged…PERIOD!

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          1. Dominick Vila November 28, 2013

            Actually, I learned my lesson that day and since then I faithfully take my Honda to the dealership where I bought it, for scheduled and unscheduled maintenance, even though the dealership is about 30 miles from my house and their services are more expensive initially. In the long run, they save me money and headaches.

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          2. Michael Kollmorgen November 29, 2013

            Of course too, customers never consider how much it cost the technician to perform his profession.

            I was a Machinist most of my life and accumulated perhaps 10K in precision instruments over the years. I know for a fact these car technicians can amass way more in tooling than what I accumulated in precision instruments.

            And, with each new model car, you need new tools. Most of the time the tech has to supply that tool, not the dealer he works for.

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    2. Canistercook November 29, 2013

      The success of our society was due to its advances in the production of goods the world needed, automobiles, steel, ships, airplanes, shoes, clothing and that resulted in companies that competitively, produced them and provided a good living for us all. Result was unions that demanded, like General motors workers, more money for less work so they became no longer competitive in the world market. Now the union workers seek to blame the CEOs and the companies. Ever wonder why GM, Enron, Solyndra, etc., declared bankruptcy and some were bailed out by the taxpayers! We need to get back to being competitive and only in the non-union high tech industries are we achieving that.

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      1. Dominick Vila November 29, 2013

        Blaming organized labor for the economic and job creation problems we have been experiencing during the last few decades is ignoring the obvious. Without unions we would not have a 40-hour work week, we would not have overtime pay, nor paid sick leave, bereavement, and other benefits. I am a former manager, who tried to squeeze as much as I could from my employees to satisfy corporate demands, but I don’t mind admitting that most of the improvements in working conditions and wages have been achieved because of labor unions rather than altruistic management practices.
        Our economic and job creation problems are caused by a multitude of reasons, ranging from the availability of low paying workers in Third World countries, to no benefit packages and the absence of safety regulations in those countries, to skill levels that do not meet requirements in hard science sectors, the introduction of robotics which inevitably results in lower labor demands, to unrealistic expectations.
        Take a look at what is happening in most Western European countries, where there is a strong union presence, and the standard of living and labor compensation is often higher than ours.

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        1. Canistercook November 29, 2013

          So we lost our ship building, shoe, auto, garment, ,steel industries etc., Is that a progressive direction. Western Europe is struggling too, with much of their youth on unemployment,
          Unions unfortunately gain power and like others with power it becomes abusive. When unions take over government and abuse their control as we saw recently in the Bay Area and with the IRS they like Corporations need controlling. The rest of us should not have to work until we are 67 to get $1200 a month SS so for example government workers can retire at 55 on 70% of their salary. Unions and Corporations need to work together not against one another. Unfortunately many union members see only one side of how money is earned!

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          1. Dominick Vila November 29, 2013

            There is no question that demanding and getting benefits such a overtime pay after 40 hours a week or 8 hours a day, getting paid vacation, paid sick leave, Holiday pay, etc added cost to our products and services, and affected our ability to compete. That is one of the reasons so many American corporations decided to invest in countries like China, India, and Bangladesh. What is the alternative? Should we still have child labor, a company store, and adopt Third World wages and benefits to ensure we remain competitive? Why are countries like Sweden, the Netherlands, Germany, Switzerland and so many others able to compete in spite of having a higher standard of living than hours, including excellent compensation and outstanding benefits, and we can’t? Instead of comparing ourselves to Greece, Spain, Portugal and a few other countries struggling to overcome the effects of the global recession – including bailing out banks that engaged in speculative practices – why don’t we look at economies that are working to determine how they have managed to succeed without adopting Third World labor practices, which should be unacceptable to all of us?
            The Civil Service Retirement Act that became effective on August 1, 1920, was changed by President Reagan in 1987. Civil servants no longer retire at age 55 with 70% of their pay. The name of the new system is the Federal Employees Retirement System (FERS).
            Employees under the CSRS are required to contribute between 7% to 8% to their annuity system. They don’t pay Social Security taxes, but they do pay the MEDICARE tax. Again, the CSRS was replaced by the FERS in 1987, and as a former government contractor I can assure you that I would not have even considered trading my private pension with the FERS pension.
            Yes, unions should be more realistic and responsible, but so do our corporations. There is no question that our country and society would benefit if both sides worked together towards the achievement of common goals, but that is as elusive as expecting Republicans and Democrats to do the same.

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          2. Michael Kollmorgen November 30, 2013

            Yea, people who demonize unions love to compare our society to the lowest denominator rather than the highest.

            We should be comparing ourselves to the societies that have achieved great things in whatever fashion they did it with.

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          3. Michael Kollmorgen December 2, 2013

            Maybe these countries have a high standard of living, compared to ours and don’t have all the problems we do, because they don’t have a large standing Military Complex that is sucking its wealth like ours does.

            And, why that is, they’ve learned how to get a long with their neighbors. We haven’t.

            I doubt very much their corporations aren’t allowed to to do the crap ours does either. They’ve also figured out how to control healthcare cost as too.

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          4. Dominick Vila December 2, 2013

            They spend a tiny fraction of what we spend on the military and, ye, they get along just fine with their neighbors, who share their values and socio-economic philosophy.
            Their willingness to pay high taxes to get social services such as healthcare, pensions, education, transportation and others allow them to live comfortably, without the stress most of us are under, and at the same time they managed to lower the operating expenses incurred by their corporations. The latter is a key factor in their corporations being competitive in spite of the high salaries they pay.

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    3. Canistercook November 30, 2013

      Walmart pays the same as other food retailers but the Unions cannot organize them so they brain wash people like you with stories that their employees collect food stamps. They do as do other part time employees that work for Safeway and Nob Hill. The Union paid $50 gift cards to disgruntled Walmart employees to join the protests. They are the Union’s whipping boy and unfortunately the Unions are able to brain wash a heck of a lot of stupid people. Unfortunately much of our main stream media groups are union members so it is difficult to get the truth out. .

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      1. Dominick Vila November 30, 2013

        My step granddaughter is a cashier at WalMart. She is a full time employee, non-union, and does not collect food stamps.
        Since I was in management, and represented my company during bargaining unit negotiations, I can only offer an opinion from my vantage point which is, admittedly, not as familiar with the inner workings of labor unions as yours appears to be.

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        1. Canistercook November 30, 2013

          Most WalMart full time empoyees do not qualify for food stamps unless they have a lot of children, but like all companies WalMart has part timers, some of who qualify as do Safeway and Nob Hill and Kroger part timers. Because WalMart is the biggest market group the union is frustrated at not being able to unionize them, hence they use stories like this that unfortunately misinform many people. Their wages are as good if not better than the other unionized grocers but it is true that some of their part time employees get food stamps as do the employees of other companies. This is an unfair union attack on a competitive company.

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          1. Dominick Vila November 30, 2013

            The larger question, when it comes to organized labor, is not whether some union or non-union American workers get food stamps, but what is the alternative to the standard of living and the labor conditions we enjoy? The most important reasons so many American entrepreneurs are investing in countries like China, India, Bangladesh, Mexico and other parts of the world is because of the benefits derived from lower operating costs, and because of the potential for market expansion. Labor costs are influenced by many factors, including lower wages, substandard benefits, lack of safety regulations, etc. Are we willing to sacrifice what we have achieved during the last century to compete with those countries?

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          2. Canistercook December 1, 2013

            We just have to become economically productive at a cost we can sell our products. You should visit China and see how much nice new housing and factories they have built with our money. There is a fine line between regulation and over regulation. We now have too much government and too little cost effective production. Why do you think Obama and the likes need to raise so much money to get elected? Because it is paid back manifold to them. Tsars come in many forms and we sure have a lot of them in America today – some even run Unions!

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          3. Dominick Vila December 1, 2013

            Yes, China and other countries have benefitted from our investments, and their standard of living is rising rapidly. That is one of the reason our corporations (they are really multi-nationals) are so eager to get a piece of the pie in the largest market in the world.
            President Obama, like every single politician in the USA, regardless of party affiliation, depended on financial support to pay for his campaign. Money is, unfortunately, the main obstacle to progress In our political process and priorities.

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          4. Canistercook December 1, 2013

            So now we have a bunch of ‘rich’ politicians an their friends and a lot of unemployed teenagers. Great!

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          5. Dominick Vila December 1, 2013

            Most of our Presidents were prosperous when they decided to run for office. Theoretically, campaign contributions are not used to make a candidate wealthy, they are used to get them elected.
            Unemployed teenagers should set aside their cell phones and video games, and visit the nearest Mall or fast food, where Hiring signs are visible to everyone. Most importantly, they should focus on their studies and major in a marketable career instead of choosing the easy way out and then complaining about the consequences of their ill advised decisions.
            There are very good jobs in the USA, unfortunately, many are going to foreign professionals entering the USA with H1b visas to satisfy demand.

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          6. Canistercook December 2, 2013

            We have made it too easy to rip off others cell phones and even kill someone and steal the video game they was trying to sell. Food stamps and welfare support a heck of a lot of people, the deserving and the non-deserving. We need ‘labor camps’ but we think they are ‘bad’ because the Russians used them to solve their problems!

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          7. Dominick Vila December 2, 2013

            Wow! I assume you were joking about the labor camps. The Soviets were not the only ones that used them to punish the opposition and inspire fear among the populace, the Third Reich, Castro, and other tyrants did it too.
            I agree with you on the issue of many non-deserving people qualifying for and getting food stamps, welfare, and using MEDICAID. We need a more stringent system to ensure only those who truly need help get it, and it should not be forever either. Ultimately, we are all responsible for our well being and neither the government nor our fellow Americans be responsible for our welfare in perpetuity. One thing is to help someone who is down on his luck and who for a variety of reasons lost his job and cannot find employment, helping people who prefer to watch TV, play video games, and spend the day texting is something entirely different. I don’t know about labor camps though….:-)

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          8. Canistercook December 2, 2013

            In the U.K. they used to sentence house burglers to 1 year in prison and armed robber to 10 years hard labor. They had very few armed robberies! But the taxpayers are now supporting a heck of a lot of ‘deadbeats’ unfortunately! And they are reproducing faster than the workers!

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          9. Dominick Vila December 3, 2013

            I spent a wonderful year in England (1959-60) when the Bobbies walked the streets armed only with a short, wooden truncheon, which they usually kept out of sight, and were only allowed to use in self-defense.
            The solution to the deadbeats that are proliferating world wide is to improve and expand our education system, pay livable wages, and introduce strict rules to qualify for welfare.

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          10. Canistercook December 5, 2013

            We provide 13 year of free education and if one uses them well one can earn a very good livable wage. I only got 9 years of free education but used them well, and with hard work and diligence made a good living The deadbeats are reproducing very fast in this country.

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          11. Canistercook December 5, 2013

            Labor camps are where one puts lazy, idle, dishonest people and make them earn their food, No drugs, alcohol allowed!

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          12. Dominick Vila December 6, 2013

            Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Red China and others used them with great effectiveness to achieve their goals and to “solve” their problems. Glad to see the GOP is borrowing a page from them. Does the next step involve a final solution? That would allow the GOP to go down in history as the political institution that solved all our fiscal and demographic problems overnight, and allowed the party faithful to buy gadgets such as the X-BOX One, the latest iPAD and cell phone, and nice foreign sport cars without worrying about having to pay for grandma and grandpa, preparing for the challenges the lie ahead, repairing our infrastructure, or esoteric issues such as healthcare, pensions for the elderly, caring for the disabled, etc.

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  2. guest November 26, 2013

    I’m pretty shocked that now Walmart is getting the shaft because people actually shop there. If food stamp people did not shop at walmart, they would shop someplace else – how is THAT a problem which Walmart caused??? Oh yea, by having lower prices. Which, is supposed to be how the free capital market works isn’t it?? If you can afford to reduce your prices, you increase customers and revenue. This is exactly what republicans have fought for. Republicans have always complained about government interference into business. Of course, those complaints don’t apply to Walmart. Walmart pays more than the majority of their competitors – and most of their competitors are unionized. How do you honestly believe putting union force into Walmart would help things?? It surely did not help the employees at Krogers – unless you are in management, of course, then you don’t belong to the union. It did not and did not help new hires either as they now MUST start at the bottom with minimum wage and work their way up. How does it help those who actually are better employees? Not at all, because even if you aren’t capable of doing the job, you will still be moved up the ladder due to your time on the job and get pay increases that you do not deserve. Nope, union does not help much especially in retail. Why not focus on those stores that make just as much profit – but pay their employees less than Walmart? Sears does not allow unions either and their pay is less than Walmart as is KMart. They prices are higher as well, so someone is making money there but it isn’t the employees. I do not like Walmart, but I also do not like hypocrites like the republicans have become in this issue. It is already to regulate a business as long as it isn’t one that you care about – right?

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    1. Michael Kollmorgen November 26, 2013

      You have to be careful by thinking Walmart offers low prices.

      I beg to differ to a very large extent. Yes, they may have a few targeted products which when first seen seem cheap. But, that’s not always the case. Sometimes they’ll post a cheap price, but lower amounts, say instead of a pound, its 14 oz. And, you think you’re getting a bargain by not looking very carefully about how much weight you’re getting for your dollar spent.

      All grocery stores are doing this and not only Walmart. The only true way of really getting what you pay for is buying in bulk, say for instance at Sam’s or BJ’s. Even then, you have to watch them too.

      Best advice is bring along a Calculator and figure out to the ounce what it actually is.

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      1. BBWeekly November 26, 2013

        I believe that most stores already make this calculation for you, at least where I live. Prices are listed in total and also by the ounce.

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    2. Leftout November 26, 2013

      Let customers regulate business. What happened to Detroit when prices went so high that the product is not affordable. Is there any collusion on pricing when all SUVs are 40,000 dollars, can any middle class person afford them.

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      1. Michael Kollmorgen November 26, 2013

        Talk about Collusion………..

        What about all these Gas Prices. They ALL go up and down. ALL about the same time.

        Whatever happened to “Competition”?

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        1. Canistercook November 29, 2013

          Not all – shop around!

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          1. Michael Kollmorgen November 29, 2013

            Sure, you can shop around and find a good bargain. But, with gasoline for instance, you’ll probably use more gas trying to find a bargain than what you saved in cost at the pump.

            So, its self defeating trying to find a bargain at times.

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    3. LotusJoan November 26, 2013

      Raising the minimum wage is not analogous to unionization. The reason progressives are focused on Wal Mart is numbers. Wal Mart is one of the
      largest private employers and so their employee compensation sets the standard. We cannot raise taxable income and the standard of living in
      this country without raising the average compensation.

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      1. Sand_Cat November 26, 2013

        Who cares if it is? We probably wouldn’t need a minimum wage if all workers were organized. This guy’s just a creepy troll. Don’t waste rationality on him.

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        1. Canistercook November 28, 2013

          And we probably would all be poorer. Power corrupts and unions seek power!

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          1. Michael Kollmorgen November 29, 2013

            Don’t you know that ANY entity that has authority over people seeks its own version of power to maintain control and self propagates itself.

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          2. Canistercook November 29, 2013

            Sure do know that and so does some religions, unions, political group and politicians. The best form of government is a benevolent dictator and the worst form an oppressive dictatorship. In the middle is a democracy that is dependent on the level of education of the voters! When too many vote only their pocket book or what’s in it for ME a democracy changes to become a communist state.

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          3. Michael Kollmorgen November 30, 2013

            ALL of these entities, religion, unions, politics, various groups whatever they might be, if they have any authority over people start to dominate and exert control and power. It is in the nature of the beast.

            Our form of government and its mindset promotes self-interest (me me me) over all else. We are all taught this from grade school on up.

            Well, if too much self-interest is leading to communism, major corporations sure are promoting it to the hilt. This may just make a lot of sense too when you consider China our most favored trading partner and Wallyworld being their second largest trading partner to boot.

            This makes perfect sense to me.

            IF this is all true, which I believe it to be, what is the solution then? A possible solution is to dismantle the entire government all the way down to the local level and use something else other than money as a model to base an entire society and economy on. Capitalism breeds greed for everything me.

            Money IS the root of all EVIL! Too much centralization of money (wealth) turns friend against friend, neighbor against neighbor, country against country.

            Taken to its ultimate final conclusion, we have no other choice than a complete and total re-distribution of wealth to avoid total collapse of our society and a domino global collapse……………..

            I’ve always believed unchecked Capitalism which leads to greed and too much centralized control, will lead to its own overthrow eventually. You don’t have to look very far for proof either. The French and British Revolutions were largely based on this concept.

            Even the Russian Revolution was based on the masses overthrowing the power structures which became too powerful and greedy. Problem is here, they didn’t replace it with anything better. The concept of Communism which replaced the former power structures was the “ideal system”. But, it also became corrupted. It was never applied as the philosophy dictated as it was supposed to be done.

            Neither of these systems, Capitalism or Communism can not exist in its pure state.

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      2. Canistercook November 30, 2013

        So the Union pays disgruntled Walmart workers $50 to protest and lies about their employees collecting food stamps because the Union cannot unionize them. Walmart employees are paid a fair wage equivalent or better than unionized similar workers. Tell the truth!

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        1. LotusJoan November 30, 2013

          I care about the truth and you are not telling it. I do not care about unionization and that is not what the Black Friday protests are about. I urge you to investigate your claim that Wal Mart workers are paid a fair wage – I worked for Wal Mart management for 13 years. Where is your expertise derived from?

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          1. Canistercook November 30, 2013

            Average wage for full time Walmart workers is around $12 an hour but depends on location. Wonder why you stayed 13 years if you were so ‘underpaid’! Wonder why the Union had to offer $50 certificates to any Walmart employee willing to join in their Black Friday protests!

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    4. 788eddie November 26, 2013

      guest, You offer blanket statements w/o supporting evidence (e.g. “Walmart pays more than the majority of their competitors – and most of their competitors are unionized.”).

      Walmart pays very low wages, so low that many of its employees qualify for food stamps. We pay for food stamps with our taxes (one government benefit I hope to never qualify for).

      In a sense, we’re supporting Walmart’s paying those low wages. I’m sure the Waltons are grateful for our contribution to their piles of money.

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    5. tax payer November 26, 2013

      Those that pay cash for their food ( they have a choice ) as to where they can shop because all stores raise their prices weekly, so why go out of your way, if people say don’t shop there because the store doesn’t pay the employees a good wage.

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    6. Canistercook November 30, 2013

      Dream on! Money is merely something that replaces the food cache we all need for survival and some work hard and store a big stack, some are lucky and get it easy and some are unlucky or lazy and want or need help obtaining their food. Without the need to grow or gather that ‘food’ mankind grows lazy and the result is we all would become poor, Communism produces laziness. We are experiencing that in Socialist Western world already.

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      1. Michael Kollmorgen December 1, 2013

        Regardless of what system of government we have, GREED will always creep into the system sooner or later. This is what I believe topples all forms of governments as soon as too much wealth is accumulated at the top of the social/economic ladder. History proves this out with every single ancient civilization that ever existed. In our time in history, our country is no different. We are no more special than any other country, or any other form of government. We just “think” we are exceptional.

        It seems to me, man has a innate nature to become jealous and envious of what someone else has over and above what people think is a comfortable living standard. You could classify it as a sense of morality, a sense of what is right and good. This seems to be basic human nature.

        Communism tries to quash it. Capitalism tries to promote it. Neither system will ever be able to root that aspect of human nature out of it. The best system is pure socialism where all wealth is shared equally, but with equal work ethics. It will never happen!

        And, this is what forms my basic belief that mankind will eventually destroy itself and the planet we live on………………..

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  3. Michael Kollmorgen November 26, 2013

    This not only goes on with Walmart.

    Just about every single corporation, major manufacturing companies and most small family-owned businesses could be paying a lot more towards their employees wages.

    But, they choose not to.

    Walmart is just a tip of a huge greedy Iceberg. And, that is called American Capitalism.

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    1. Elliot J. Stamler November 27, 2013

      Lying bullshit. I am a stockholder in two great American corporations which pay their employees very well and with super benefits. You, comrade, don’t have the guts to acknowledge you are a Marxist. And for the record Wallmart is NOT representative of “every single corporation” – you are a Marxist version of Josef Goebbels. And I do not approve of Wallmart’s specific policies.

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  4. dpaano November 26, 2013

    In California, we’ve been seeing ads from Wal-Mart stating that they promote 400 people per day; they give raises monthly, etc., etc., etc. It’s all a big show, and they think they are pulling the wool over our eyes! Our local Wal-Mart caters to low income consumers, which is okay, but it’s sad that the workers are among these same people and have to spend their paychecks there too…..kind of like the old “company store.” Their ads are an abomination in my opinion!

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    1. 788eddie November 26, 2013

      I’ve seen the same ads on Long Island, dpaano, and I agree that they’re an abomination!

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      1. stcroixcarp November 26, 2013

        We see the ads in Scott Walker’s union busting Wisconsin too.

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    2. Michael Kollmorgen November 26, 2013

      There is so much false advertising going on on TV these days, you really don’t know what to believe.

      And, OH, what those “legals” do at the end of a car commercial on FM Radio is totally disgusting.

      What the hell ever happened to Truth In Advertising?…………………

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      1. InsideEye November 27, 2013

        If you like your healthcare plan, doctor, hospital, nuclear enrichment plant, you can keep it.

        The fish starts to rot at the head

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        1. infadelicious November 27, 2013

          Fish, houseguests and Iranian/American agreements start to stink after 3 days……. or 6 mos.. whatever

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        2. Michael Kollmorgen November 27, 2013

          I don’t know how your comment relates to my comment. But, whatever.

          As far as my healthcare is concerned, I have a great one. I am on Medicare and pay out of my SS $100 a month for my AARP sponsored United sub plan and pay minor co-pays, etc……..

          Even when I was working, I never had as good of coverage as I do now………………

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          1. InsideEye November 27, 2013

            I was replying to your concern about false advertising, and I brought up the Presidents assurances on promising , that one was able to keep their plans, doctors etc. …but his remarks were self adjusted to bear semblance to truth in advertising.

            Yes Medicare is great and fear and PAID for by its recipients. The current ACA is causing angst because the same 30 million uninsured are still being subsidized by the working taxable payers. The ACA , I contend could be attached to the existing Medicare program, as a universal coverage, and paid for by ALL from a sales tax for this purpose only. No need for another program. The Medicare system is already well administered and everything is in place simply add the main elements: covered pre – existing conditions and bankruptcy protection from catastrophic claims. Pre existing claims are already being paid and are actuarilized by the insurance industry…this is a crock argument.

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          2. Michael Kollmorgen November 28, 2013

            Yes, I do agree. We don’t need another program IF Medicare would cover people who don’t have any coverage, can’t afford the premiums or have pre-conditions.

            Problem is, it don’t. It only covers you IF you worked, have built up points, then qualify that way. And, this depends on how many points you have built up.

            Of course, there are those who qualify anyway due to disability if you are a disabled child.

            I have friends who qualify for SS, but extremely low pensions, even at 65, but, don’t qualify for SS Disability IF they need to use it before 65. Strange but true.

            Medicare is extremely complicated enough all on its own. Now, throw in Medicaid, SS Disability and the like. Let’s now start up ACA.

            What a nightmare………………

            I’m just lucky I qualifed for SS Disability due to severe Arthritis. Can’t work anymore even if I tried. I just barely qualified too, even though I worked most of my working years. My problem throughout my working years what that when people didn’t buy cars, I was layed off way too much and I didn’t get a good education early on.

            Believe me, if I had to do it over again, I’d of gotten a good education early on and never went into manufacturing jobs. Long story why I didn’t and why I did.

            I tell young guys I know, get a good education, go to college. IF you don’t, you will probably regret it eventually.

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          3. InsideEye November 28, 2013

            Education is Key…Wisdom for the youth. People like you should be teaching young people essentials of life.
            Have a great Thanksgiving.

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          4. Canistercook November 28, 2013

            All these government programs are a ‘redistribution of the wealth’.
            Unfortunately they reward the idle irresponsible greedy along with the deserving needy. I laugh when they (the IRS) call a tax on your social security a ‘ premium adjustment’ when it is based on your net income. Whose kidding who?

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          5. Canistercook November 28, 2013

            That’s because now someone else is being taxed to help provide your coverage.

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          6. Michael Kollmorgen November 28, 2013

            YOU are full of crap!

            I paid into the system all the years I worked. I’m just getting out what I paid into.

            Hope ya have a rotten Thanksgiving!

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          7. Canistercook November 28, 2013

            And I am picking up your bill. You sound like ‘such a NICE person!

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          8. Michael Kollmorgen November 28, 2013

            When you make such an asinine comment, why should I or anyone else even remotely give you the slightest sign I have any respect for you?

            And, By The Way, I am a nice guy, but not towards assholes.

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          9. Canistercook November 29, 2013

            Nice by whose standards!

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          10. Canistercook November 29, 2013

            I paid in too and now I am being taxed to support those that didn’t along with those who abused their bodies. Have a nice Thanksgiving!

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    3. Canistercook November 29, 2013

      Seems a lot of people must have access to Wal-Mart’s payroll figures. Perhaps they could publish them so we would all know! Most of

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  5. 4sanity4all November 26, 2013

    Prices are always going up anyway, and if the reason they were going up is because the company is paying decent wages, I would not mind paying more. But as it is now, prices go up, and wages do not, but the stockholders do better on their dividends. The way it is structured now, the poor will only lose more ground financially, because a lot of prices are geared to the ones at the top who can afford to pay anything. Consumers will have to make the choice to shop at places like Costco, where they pay better wages and give benefits. Consumers have to choose not to shop where the deck is stacked against employees.

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    1. BBWeekly November 26, 2013

      Inflation rates have been low for almost 30 years now, since the middle of the Reagan administration. So prices actually haven’t been going up very much at all, relative to the norm and history.

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  6. Canistercook November 26, 2013

    Walmart is sure the ‘whipping boy’ for union members!

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    1. stcroixcarp November 26, 2013

      Well deserved, I might add.

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      1. Canistercook November 26, 2013

        Only spoken by those union members who know little about them!

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        1. Sand_Cat November 26, 2013

          And you, of course, know lots. Maybe you’re a Walmart executive? Or just someone who believes in exploiting human suffering to the max to benefit yourself?

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          1. Canistercook November 26, 2013

            Haven’t noticed that the workers at my local Walmart seem to be ‘suffering’ much, they seemed pretty happy to me! Unions had their day and they destroyed the steel, ship building, shoe making and auto industries so I guess they are now set on the un-unionized retail trades.

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          2. Michael Kollmorgen November 28, 2013

            Yes, they are probably happy, only because they got a job.

            Yes, Unions did have an upper hand in some industries. But, if it weren’t for unions, many of the horrors we used to experience a 100 years go would have never been eradicated from the workplace.

            And, we probably never would have had such a large Middle Class either that is being deliberately dismantled by the lack of unions ever since Reagan busted the Air? Controllers Union.

            Yes, some of it was bad for industry. But, overall, Unions improved life in THIS country for the vast majority of people. Please notice, ever since the Union(s) have been largely pushed out, the poverty rate has dramatically increased.

            And, IF you want to call this leading down that road to socialism, ok by me. I’d approve it.

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          3. Canistercook November 29, 2013

            Just what is the poverty rate? I don’t think anyone really knows. In an upscale area of Calif where they provided a soup kitchen, and showers etc., they are now overwhelmed with people, many of whom have ‘chosen’ that lifestyle in a warm climate. When one can get Section 8 housing, $900 a month food stamps, free medical care why work! Unfortunately we have the truely unfortunate who through no fault of their own have fallen on bad times, and those that choose to cry poverty and don’t want to contribute their labors to society. Necessity is the mother of invention and that is what caused man to work and hunt for food. When that need is removed some of us will just enjoy the fruits of others and say they are ‘entitled’ to.

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          4. Michael Kollmorgen November 29, 2013

            I rather doubt the bulk of those people choose to be poor, just so they can eat at a Soup Kitchen.

            And, if someone does choose that sort of lifestyle, I’d be willing to be they have undiagnosed mental problems that need to be treated.

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          5. Canistercook November 29, 2013

            Probably true, but unfortunately they seem to be increasing. Perhaps drugs and alcohol have something to do with it.

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          6. Michael Kollmorgen November 27, 2013

            While I have to admit, Wallyworld is exploiting its workers, as much as every other business does these days, you have to remember too, your own next door neighbor shops there.

            If people would stop going there, Wallyworld wouldn’t be building and starting up so many stores. But, I notice on any given day, Wallyworld’s parking lot is filled to capacity.

            And, some of them shoppers are Union Members………..

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          7. InsideEye November 27, 2013

            The workers do seem happy, since they have some income coming in. Many are at various levels of education and are earning to supplement basic needs, some do not require benefits since they are retired, some are students making tuition money, some are higher technical managers, inventory control etc. there seems to be room for many in employment. Flipping burgers etc is not usually a career, except a stepping stone for other higher goals…so I say. Have we not all been happy to have a job as this at times. ..just say in’ .

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  7. Mark Forsyth November 26, 2013

    I haven’t shopped there for years.Take an otherwise high dollar sporting item and try to make an informed purchase from an individual,often a part time working teenager,with little or no interest in the product line and you have got a poor shopping experience.Crummy treatment of employees,low employee wages coupled with far too much foreign made merchandise, adds up to a bad place to shop, in this mans book. I gladly shop where decently paid employees are happy to assist me and offer pertinent information in answer to any questions I might have.If I end up paying a bit more for my purchase,then I am glad to do it knowing that I have supported a local merchant who is not just likely to appreciate my business but also to give me a good deal as a regular customer on a later purchase. I’ve no wish to see needy Wal-Mart employees lose their jobs due to lack of business but I stand on supporting ones own local merchants and not some greedy mega store.

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  8. BBWeekly November 26, 2013

    “All it would have to do is stop buying back its own stock and paying dividends.”
    Well, that kind of means they would need to stop acting like a corporation. The purpose of a company is to maximize the value to owners, or shareholders in the case of a publicly owned entity. Yes stakeholders such as employees also matter and should be taken into consideration. But shareholder value is Finance 101 at any business school in the world.
    There are arguments to be made here, such as the 1.1% price increase to lift wages slightly, but one should not flippantly say they could lower buybacks and dividends without consequence. That’s a major thing to the markets.

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    1. Sand_Cat November 26, 2013

      You make yet another good argument why corporations should be banned or very strictly regulated.

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  9. howa4x November 26, 2013

    The Walton family invented the term greedy bastards. They are a family with over 115 billion and can easily afford to pay much more. Costco pays $21/hr and still makes money. the middle class has to start boycotting Wal-Mart until it pays a living wage and gives benefits. We in the middleclass are subsidizing one of the richest families in the country. the 900,000 per store in subsidies could off set tuition for our college kids, or fix our roads and bridges. this family used to hold revival rallies to say what great Christians they are. Actually they really worship the devil through the writings of Ayn Rand

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    1. tax payer November 26, 2013

      The closest Costco is over 20 miles from our house, so I’ll stick with Walmart to buy part of our Groceries since we also go to H. E. B.

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      1. Sand_Cat November 26, 2013

        What a surprise!

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      2. Michael Kollmorgen November 27, 2013

        I heard Costco has good prices. Wish there was one around here.

        I usually go to Sam’s Club or BJ’s to get stuff in bulk.

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        1. tax payer November 27, 2013

          I go to Sams too, but only when I want to buy large quantities of food.

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          1. Michael Kollmorgen November 27, 2013

            What I like to do is to buy those large shanks of say Rib Eye, Strip, etc. and have the butcher cut them to the thickness I like, then vacuum pack and freeze them.

            I do that with all my meats, including pork, chicken, hamburger.

            You do save a few bucks a pound doing it this way.

            The problem is though, is that Sams and BJ’s is getting wise or smartassy and pricing their already cut and packed meats just a dollar or two more a pound. The large shanks are starting to get almost as expensive as the other stuff.

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        2. tax payer November 27, 2013

          My wife does that with every large pack of meat we buy and puts one half in a separate freezer, and the other half in the refrigerator freezer.

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          1. Michael Kollmorgen November 27, 2013

            Don’t store meat in your Frig Freezer for very long. If it’s not vacuum packed, the freezer will take away all the water from the meat and leave it dry as a bone.

            Hence the term Frost Free Freezer. Notice too, put a tray of ice cubes in there and it’ll disappear eventually because the Frost Free function of the freezer is taking ALL the water out of everything in it………….

            Best way to store meat long term is use a non frost free freezer and vacuum pack it.

            Freezer Burn is caused by air contact with the meat.

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          2. tax payer November 27, 2013

            Thanks, I told my wife and she said we eat that meat within a week, so I never know when she takes it out of the extra freezer, and cooks it. We are five in the family ( four adults and a 17 year daughter ), so I guess the meat doesn’t stay frozen too long.

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  10. SeekingOut November 26, 2013

    I still am not shopping at WMT!!!

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    1. Michael Kollmorgen November 26, 2013

      I used to never shop at WallyWorld. But, not anymore.

      When I know solid union workers who work for union companies that go to Wallyworld, basically stabbing their own companies in the back so to speak that earn a whole lot more than I do, why should I be a holdout? Why should I give a crap either…………..

      Plus I’ve noticed my usual grocery store is cheapening their product line, discontinuing tried and true products for Generic Brands which I don’t like.

      I used to only do maybe 5% of my shopping at Wallyworld. Now, I’m doing nearly 75% or better, including my meds.

      I used to believe in Store Loyalty. But, not anymore. Besides, dam near everything you buy these days is made in China, don’t really matter from what store you buy from either.

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      1. Sand_Cat November 26, 2013

        And why, pray tell, do you suppose your “usual grocery store is cheapening their product line”? Couldn’t possibly be because people like Walmart not only pay their employees nothing, they also do things like pumping water under pressure into their meat, so the price you pay “per pound” includes a lot of extra water weight making it look like you’re getting a bargain. They used to call it fraud, but people like the Waltons own our government. Shopping there just guarantees their continued ownership.

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        1. Michael Kollmorgen November 27, 2013

          That is nothing new.

          Guess what, I bought a frozen almost 25 pound Turkey and stuffed and roasted it last week. I stripped the meat off and weighted it just for the hell of it. Vacuum packed and frozed it all for Thanksgiving Dinner this Thursday.

          Funny thing happened, imagine, a 25 pound turkey yielded ONLY 8 pounds of cooked meat. There was maybe 8 pounds of bones, skin and fat which I boiled to hell and back to make gravy with today. The rest of the excess weight that wasn’t meat or bone, was probably water.

          That was a frozen Butterball Turkey from Fisher Foods, not Wallyworld.

          ALL of these meat suppliers are pumping water and other ingredients into their meats. Wallyworld is doing nothing new. Matter of fact, they’ve been doing this way before Wallyworld ever came on the scene.

          People complain about Wallyworld taking their jobs and the economy to China. Well, that is probably true. But, so is everyone else.

          To beat all hell, the biggest complainers are the ones who belong to unions and they shop in the very store they complain about. Hypocrites!

          I don’t care anymore. I have absolutely no guilt what so ever about going to Wallyworld.

          Other than this, the ONLY way your going to get meat that isn’t pumped with stuff is probably your local Butcher. And, you’re going to pay a premium price for it too.

          They’ll gouge the crap out of you worse than the regular stores will because after all, you think you’re getting quality meats, because of its high price and because its locally owned.

          Take my word for it – it don’t mean a dam thing. It used to mean something years ago. But not anymore.

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        2. Canistercook November 28, 2013

          Funny how Walmart does not seem to have any trouble getting employees!

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  11. tax payer November 27, 2013

    Imagine working for Walmart and as soon as you are Off Duty you do the same thing as some of the Other Customers that get the ( Food Free ), and Not Have to use Any of your Wages for Food Purchasing except for the Toilet Paper and other nonfood Products. Why work Elsewhere since you have it Made getting the Food Free.

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    1. Robert Haugh November 27, 2013

      You’re kidding,right?

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      1. tax payer November 27, 2013

        No I’m not kidding. They keep mentioning the employees at Walmart get SNAP, so I am only agreeing with them that Walmart has their employees on Food Stamps.

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        1. Canistercook November 28, 2013

          Guess some of their part timers use SNAP as do part timers and non workers in all of our society. Sure would help if we only helped the ‘deserving’ needy and not the lazy ‘greedy’ wouldn’t it.

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          1. tax payer November 28, 2013

            The Lazy consider themselves as the ( Needy Greedy ) and our tax money makes them more Lazier.

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          2. Canistercook November 28, 2013

            When the tax receivers outnumber the tax payers I guess we are heading to a socialist ‘democracy’. Always wonder why I have to give a SS number on my 1040 yet someone can vote and not even produce an ID! In other words they can vote for someone that promises to give them more of my earnings without being identified! Guess they call that a ‘right’ or an ‘entitlement’.

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          3. tax payer November 28, 2013

            Some people that comment here think it’s our Obligation to help those that don’t care to do it themselves, but I found out some of them are also living off the taxpayers, so no wonder they would get mad at me for saying they need to help themselves rather than to expect us to help them. Kind of long, but that’s the best way to let you know there are many of them out there.

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  12. Canistercook November 28, 2013

    Wonder how many who criticize WalMart know that they donated a million dollars to the Salvation Army for the needy this year, their stock can be purchased and all can benefit from their business. Greed comes from many sources both business and organized unions. The Unions attack Walmart because they represent the largest non-union retail group who are successful in our country while unionization has destroyed the ability to compete in many of our industries. The take over of our government by unions has led to our Detroits and Vallejos! What will follow?

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    1. Michael Kollmorgen November 29, 2013

      Yea, that is very nice of them.

      But, they also get that back when they do their taxes. To be corps like that, it’s a every day business expense.

      Believe me, they aren’t doing it because they have a good heart.

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      1. Canistercook November 29, 2013

        sO COULD YOU! How much did you give?

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        1. Michael Kollmorgen November 30, 2013

          We give to the local shelter what we can afford. We also help with a few food drives for needy families in the area.

          Since neither of us have any family left, last relatives passed away 5 years ago and we don’t have any children of our own to pass along anything, we have our home with all contents willed to the Human Rights Campaign once both of us are gone, that’s IF there is anything left to will. You never know, one of us might wind up in a nursing home and the nursing home gets the home for payment.

          That does happen.

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  13. E G November 29, 2013

    I worked for wal-mart for many years , I never got rich , it kept food on the table and a roof over my head the Ceo’s get rich off the sweat of the workers and laugh all the way to the bank. it will never end

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    1. Canistercook November 29, 2013

      Ever consider trying to become a CEO? I seek to join them not to criticize them!

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