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‘Fiscal Cliff’ Deal In Jeopardy As Republicans Demand Spending Cuts

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‘Fiscal Cliff’ Deal In Jeopardy As Republicans Demand Spending Cuts


The Republican majority in the House of Representatives is reportedly preparing to reject the Senate bill to avoid the so-called “fiscal cliff,” in a move that could devastate the economy.

House Republicans met for hours Tuesday afternoon to discuss the Senate’s compromise bill, which passed Monday night by an overwhelming 89-8 margin. The Senate bill would renew tax cuts — which expired at midnight Tuesday — on all incomes under $400,000 for single filers and incomes under $450,000 for joint filers. Additionally, the Senate bill includes a one-year extension of unemployment insurance, and a two-month delay of the sequestration budget cuts.

Politico has reported that House Republicans are “overwhelmingly” opposed to the Senate bill due to its lack of spending cuts, and the fact that it delays the sequestration cuts. According to the report, it is “nearly certain” that House Republicans will amend the bill to add more spending cuts, and send it back to the Senate.

House Speaker John Boehner has not indicated whether he will ultimately support the measure, but in a statement released by his office, he and Majority Leader Eric Cantor warned that “The lack of spending cuts in the Senate bill was a universal concern among members in today’s meeting.”

Cantor has flatly rejected the deal, telling reporters outside the meeting, “I do not support the bill.” Several other congressmen, including California Rep. Darrell Issa, Kansas Rep. Tim Hueslkamp, and Michigan Rep. Justin Amash, have also spoken out in opposition.

As of 4pm, no vote had been scheduled on the Senate compromise. Republicans are scheduled to meet again early Tuesday evening; depending on the outcome of that meeting, the House may not vote at all on Tuesday.

If Republicans do attempt to amend the bill to add more cuts, Boehner will first have to round up 217 votes — which is far from a sure thing, as the speaker found out earlier in December with his failed “plan B.”

Even if Boehner does successfully amend the bill and send it back to the Senate, such a move would likely scuttle the deal. The Senate is extremely unlikely to take up an amended bill after passing their own version nearly unanimously; as one Democratic leadership aide told BuzzFeed’s Rebecca Berg, “We’re done.

Vice President Joe Biden, who negotiated the terms of the Senate bill with Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, met with House Democrats on Capitol Hill today in a separate meeting. As he left, Biden sounded cautiously optimistic that the deal would pass in the House of Representatives.

“I never predict anything about what the Congress can do. I feel good though,” Biden said. That was before the Republican meeting concluded and Cantor spoke out in opposition, however.

Henry Decker

Henry Decker was formerly the Managing Editor of The National Memo. He is currently an Online Associate at MRCampaigns.

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  1. old_blu January 1, 2013

    Of course they object to it, they object to anything that might get some work done, but I try to be optimistic that they will at least come up with something.

  2. Dominick Vila January 1, 2013

    Spending cuts are necessary, but trying to come up with effective spending reduction in a couple of hours, after neglecting this issue for a year, is unrealistic. The Senate bill should be put for an up or down vote. Otherwise, we will have to let the automatic tax increases and spending reductions take place, with subsequent impact to the middle class and our economy, and let the new Congress deal with the problem this Congress failed to do.

    1. Arlene January 1, 2013

      Spending cut pushes one off the cliff faster. Why don’t you know basic economics. The cliff is too much austerity too fast.

      1. Dominick Vila January 1, 2013

        The automatic spending cuts put in place by the GOP as a condition to raise the debt ceiling a year ago are, indeed, an austerity plan that, if implemented, would derail our economic recovery. However, there are ways to reduce Federal government spending without impacting our standard of living, our economy, or our security. The same goes for revenue increases.

        Many of our DoD programs are unnecessary considering the fact that the only countries that could pose a challenge to our military, China and Russia, are more interested in improving their standard of living, strengthening their economies, and industrial might than engaging in unnecessary ideological battles. The only use for NATO since the collapse of the Soviet Union is to use it as a demonstration of international consensus when there is often none. Many of our military bases, overseas and at home, have been rendered obsolete by technology and a changing threat to our security. Foreign aid should be limited to humanitarian aid, everything else should be discontinued immediately. The same goes for military aid to other countries. If somebody wants something from us, they should pay for it. Merge agencies with similar charters, such as NASA/NOAA and the CIA/FBI to reduce overhead costs and increase efficiency. Reduce the budget of ALL Federal government departments by 5% effective immediately. A small budgetary reduction will not require layoffs and would not affect efficiency. It would simply force managers to do a better job, reduce things like travel, end of the FY spending sprees to make sure their budgets are not cut the following FY, eliminate intentional vacancies, reduce the civil servant/contractor ratio, etc.

        I actually agree with you, the last thing we need is an austerity program, what would make a difference is investment in infrastructure, modernization, R&D and education to stimulate the economy, restore consumer confidence, reduce unemployment costs, increase revenues through higher taxation as a result of lower unemployment, and encourage private sector investment.

        1. Lynda January 1, 2013

          Exactly sir.

        2. Fern Woodfork January 2, 2013

          That Is Exactly Whats Needed!!

        3. Jim Myers January 2, 2013

          Replying to Dominick Vila –

          I nearly always agree with you on almost everything you write, but this time I am totally against you on one key point.

          I think combining the FBI and the CIA would be disastrous.

          The CIA is tasked with security and covert ops outside the United States. They have clear guidelines that must be met in order to efficiently execute their missions.

          Combining the CIA with the FBI will blur the line between the operational mission of both agencies.

          This is a Pandora’s Box that should NEVER be opened.

          Besides, the right wingers would probably see this as a step towards military style attacks against our basic freedoms. (Well, maybe there would be one good thing that would come out of such a merger.)

          Otherwise, I am on board with you on everything else.

  3. TZToronto January 1, 2013

    Is anyone really surprised? The Republicans would rather send the U.S.–and world–economy into recession again than to allow those in need to continue to receive the assistance of the U.S. government–not to mention raising the taxes on the wealthy. The only surprise will be if the House passes anything related to beginning to put the economy back into shape. Help!! We’ve fallen over the cliff, and we can’t climb back up.

    1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

      You seem to have no compunction about the fact that unborn children each face a debt load of $150,000 when they are born. No rational adult would knowingly saddle their children with that kind of IOU’s,
      Those that need assistance from the govt need to start earning it doing community service. Anyone on Unemployment over 26 weeks should be required to do 40 hours of Community service, painting schools , sweeping picking up cigarette butts or emptying bed pans in hospitals

      1. Lynda January 1, 2013

        Actually it is more like $47K at the last estimate from the CBO. But who’s counting. BTW, just how would folks empting bed pans help them get jobs. Keep it real please.

        1. amarquez647 January 1, 2013

          I object to Ferns tone and language though I agree with her sentiment. HOWEVER, I REALLY OBJECT TO YOU DEMEANING FERM’S PROFESSION. I was in a car accident that left me with 14 broken bones and a loss of 6 paints of blood. I was in a coma for three weeks. I owe a lot to people like Fern who cleaned me and tended to my waste. They cleaned the blood that I shed. I survived because the people who empty bedpans, suction blood and mucous from my lungs and guided me through my healing. Shame on you.

        2. onedonewong January 1, 2013

          Sorry that’s for EVERY american that’s living. those folks aren’t going to pay that back its the unborn who are facing that debt

      2. Lynda January 1, 2013

        Oops, my mistake. The latest number was just posted $52,050.05. Don’t let hyperbole get in your way. LOL About those bedpans????

        1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

          Sorry every independent research group that has looked at federal pay all have the exact number $130,000 that comes from Pew, USA Today , Wall St Journal, MSNBC CATO as well as Heritage

      3. Fern Woodfork January 1, 2013

        Hey onesuckdong Shut Your Dumb Ass Up!!! You Are Just As Bad As Michele Bachmann Looking The American People In The Eye And Said President Obama Trip To India Will Cost The American Tax Payers 200 Million Dollars A Day!!! She A Lying Bitch And So Are YOU!!

        1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

          Thank goodness you aborted all of your kids

          1. Fern Woodfork January 2, 2013

            Never Had A Abortion But That Something Your Mother Should Have Done!! We Would Have One Less Asshole Lying And Stinking Up The Earth!!

      4. manfred January 1, 2013

        Your arithmetic seems to be one of a republican (called fuzzy math). Overstated in every direction to proof a point, whatever it may be!

        1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

          over stated Freddy no its on the low side since the budget deal and Obamacare will add another $10 Trillion to the debt and increase the unborn levy to $225,000

      5. iowasteve January 2, 2013

        Hmmm – so you believe it’s ok to give them benefits if they are volunteering to work rather than actually looking for a real job??? Does that make any sense at all? If they find even a part-time job, it reduces their unemployment by the amount they earn while working. And if they are working part-time – they are paying taxes aren’t they???? Sometimes you republicans amaze me in your thinking – without actually thinking.

  4. montanabill January 1, 2013

    How dare they even consider wanting spending cuts! This was a ‘tax and spend’ bill. We’ll cut spending right after every single job creator is on welfare.

  5. frida January 1, 2013

    Unfortunately, the House is full of bad apples (Tea Party), which always damage the good ones left. I won’t be surprised with a horrible outcome from the way they will vote.

    1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

      We need to rid the House of the 200 communists that are there now

      1. Lynda January 1, 2013

        Glad to see that you included Republicans in your count. There are only 191 Democrats along with 241 Republicans along with 3 vacancies.

      2. Fern Woodfork January 2, 2013

        You Mean The Congress House Full Of Nazis!! You Wouldn’t Know A Commie If They Walk Up On You A Sock You In The Nose!!!

  6. Alvey Pelletier January 1, 2013

    Please remember the names of these congressmen who plan to derail any progress that has been made. These are the jerks who don’t know how to compromise to get something done in DC. Vote the ass holes out of office in 2014 so we can get something accomplished in Washington. Amen and Happy New Year, we really need a “happy new year”.

    1. Fern Woodfork January 1, 2013

      Knowing That It Seems Their Only Agenda Is To Destroy America And The American People Cause They Will Make More Money For Themselves Nothing These Low Life Bastards In Congress Do Will Surprise Me!! What I Would Like To Know Why They Didn’t Say Not One Damn Word While Bush Was Spending All This Money On 2 Wars And All The Rest Of His Low Life Gutting Out America By Spending Money The Country Didn’t Have??? I Know Cause They Are Was Making Out Like Bandits!!!

      1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

        That’s because W was ‘spending all that dam money”. The $10 Trillion in new debt happened after the Dem’s took over congress in 2007. Think before you make a fool of yourself

        1. Lynda January 1, 2013

          You need to read the Congressional Record to get some of you facts straight. The Democrates only reach the magic 60 vote level for a very few months in the Senate. Hint, it was in effect a few short months before Mass put Scott into office. Certainly the trillions of additional spending can’t just be blamed on one party so let go the hyperbole and use facts to make your argument.

          1. NCSOUTHERNGENTLEMAN1 January 1, 2013

            You are correct. The Democrats had the 60 votes to expedite legislation in the Senate from July 1, 2009 until January 18, 2010–a relatively brief time. Aside from that time frame, the Republicans could obstruct at will, which they did frequently and at a record pace. Hence, we have now a bipartisan effort at filibuster reform in the Senate.

          2. johninPCFL January 1, 2013

            That total included independents, which if you’ll recall voted GOP about 40% of the time.

          3. onedonewong January 1, 2013

            Kennedy croaked in Aug 2009 that was more than a “very few months”

        2. Dominick Vila January 1, 2013

          Really? Would you mind enumerating the spending initiatives made by Democrats since 2007 that contributed to a $10T increase in the national debt? With the exception of the stimulus package, which was less than $1T, you are going to have a hard time coming up with specifics.
          The recent increases in the debt were caused by moving the cost of the Iraq and Afghanistan crusades from unfunded liabilities to the general budget, where they should have been all along. The effect of the Bush 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. A dramatic decline in revenues and an increase in unemployment payments as a result of the Great Recession. Last, but not least, increases in debt interest payments. The rest was all programmatic. I am anxiously awaiting your response, which I trust will include specific examples of increased spending by Democrats.

          1. BDC_57 January 1, 2013

            He can’t come with an answer just like Romney and Ryan couldn’t.

          2. old_blu January 1, 2013

            If you’re asking for specifics I think you will just hear crickets.

          3. NCSOUTHERNGENTLEMAN1 January 1, 2013

            He can not find the evidence to support his claim against the Democrats. In 2007 the Republicans controlled the Presidency, with the veto power, and the Senate Democrats did not have the 60 votes to prevent the Republicans from filibustering any legislation the Democrats proposed. The Republicans had the power to thwart and obstruct anything the Democrats proposed.

          4. William Quigley January 1, 2013

            Dominick, good come back. There are also several unfunded initatives such as “No Child Left Behind”, and a new Department of Homeland Security. The last year of The Clinton Administration the US had a 256 billion dollar surplus and was on track to pay off the national debt in 2007 or there abouts. The last year of G W Bush the US had a 1.2 trillion dollar debt with no prospects of ever paying it off the debt. The republicans have controlled the house the for last two years and all they did was set us for the fiscal cliff.

          5. rpg1408 January 1, 2013

            The first spending cuts should be the salaries and health care benefits of all the members of Congress unwilling to support the (too) generous compromise worked out in the Senate. These idiots won’t be satisfied until the whole damn Ship of State sinks.

          6. onedonewong January 1, 2013

            green energy, unemployment, and doubling EVERY federal agencies budget EXCEPT DOD

          7. MichaelWVa January 2, 2013

            Those are not NEW programs — they only continue programs that are already in place – and without those renewals, jobs could be lost and more communities destroyed. e.g. a green energy company depends on the tax breaks and deductions that people get for installing solar panels, in order to encourage their installation, and in order for the green energy companies to survive. Likewise, when an employer shuts-down or has mass layoffs, an entire surrounding community can be destroyed without an opportunity to recover. Unemployment benefits can merely give people an opportunity to continue to exist in a community while the employer attempts to recover or local leaders can recruit a new business to hire the ready workforce. Unemployment benefits aid the local businesses more than they help the worker. Workers can relocate — generally, local businesses cannot.

          8. Lucy Duncan January 2, 2013

            Why would ANYONE want the Republicans to fix ANYTHING!!. We will be digging out from Bush for another decade.

          9. RobertCHastings January 3, 2013

            Sounds like the gauntlet has been thrown down., onedonewong.

        3. Fern Woodfork January 1, 2013

          Your Dumb Ass Need To Stop Talking To Me With Your Lying Ass Go Back To Your Kissing The Koch Brothers Asses And Your Daily Blow Jobs On Rush Limpdick, And Tell Your Lies On WND You Know Your Web Site WND = Wacky N Dumb!!

          1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

            WOW I was supru=ised that you upped your prices for anal sex its up to 50Cents…guess inflation has affected you as well

          2. Fern Woodfork January 2, 2013

            I Do Nursing Bitch That Other Shit Is Done By You And Your Mother!! Asshole!! Better Get to Doing Your Daily Blow Jobs On Rush, He Just Might Find Someone Else!! Go Earn Your Keep Bitch!!!

          3. robert January 2, 2013

            onedonewong sucks long dong! she so hoorny! she suck you long time! Get up on this (((o===8. . . Ooo baby baby, ba-baby-baby!

        4. LMS47 January 1, 2013

          Dems as u call them, had to get the US out of the mess Bush and Chaney
          got the US into. You made a fool out of your self, if you think the Reps are for anyone but the rich.

          1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

            W inherited a recession from Clinton. But you never heard about it because W is a man and the current fool in the WH is a little boy

          2. Lucy Duncan January 2, 2013

            What history book are you reading? Or do you watch Faux news?

          3. Fern Woodfork January 2, 2013

            You Nail It!! Fox Fake News Where They Make Shit Up And Call It News Just Like onesucksdong!!!

          4. Annemb January 2, 2013

            Bush is a neocon who did Cheney’s bidding.

            President Obama is a man doing for the people as best as he can considering the Republican obstructionists and TPiers ideologues.

        5. Annemb January 1, 2013

          No the $10 trillion debt did not happen “after the Dems took over in 2007.”

          The debt is GWBush’s spending – two unpaid wars (on a credit card), M/Care D, the “Bush tax cuts”… which he neglected to include in any budgets. He also “borrowed” from Social Security, didn’t he?

          Remember, there was a surplus when he took office in 2000.

          Check out the facts!

          1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

            Turn off MSNBC and the rest of the State run media and do your own research. W inherited a recession from Clinton. And yes the $10Trillion started in 2007. Just like the new Senate deal will add another $4 Trillion to the debt per CBO not to mention the $1 Trillion a year that obamacare adds. In 4 years Barak will add another $10 Trillion to the debt unless the House stops him

          2. Annemb January 2, 2013

            Oh? Dubya inherited a recession from Clinton? Really? Where did the surplus come from the sky? What about the job growth during the Clinton administration?

            What is your source?

            BTW – I stand by my post.

        6. johninPCFL January 1, 2013

          Ah, bullshit. GWBs spending in 2006 added $1T to the national debt, $1.3T in 2007, and $1.8T in 2008. GWB, like your hero Reagan (who added $4T to the debt in his terms) never vetoed a spending bill, so I guess they’re the two most liberal spenders in history. Obama is catching up and will likely pass Reagan this year.

          1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

            johnney boy I bet the have google in FL try it before posting nonsense

          2. johninPCFL January 1, 2013

            I did. That’s how I routinely know you’re posting complete bullshit.

        7. Plznnn January 1, 2013

          And Obama Spent even more damn money, $5 Trillion is just 4 years.

          1. johninPCFL January 1, 2013

            He continued the GOP spending patterns of $3.6-$3.8T per year. The difference is that the GWB depression limited the revenues, and GWB didn’t include military spending in his budgets. Net result? 2006 $1T added to debt. 2007 $1.3T added to debt. 2008 $1.8T added to debt. 2009 (GWBs last budget) $1.6T added to debt. 2010 $1.4T added to debt. 2011 $1.1T added to debt.

          2. iowasteve January 2, 2013

            Forget it John – the morons on the other side have a serious problem – they don’t understand the difference between deficit and debt. Talk about telling someone to Google something. Since Clinton ended with a deficit – this means that Clinton’s years during which his budget was balanced, there was NOTHING more added to debt. Funny how Bush took a deficit and in just a few years turned it into a $1 +T deficit. The debt really is never paid. The reason is that the debt is grown BY THE DEFICIT each year. Which is what John is trying to explain to you. What happened with Bush is that since the spending he was doing was not in the budget, it didn’t grow the debt as fast as it is now, since it needs to be paid and included in a budget to be paid. So, YES, the huge debt right now – IS the result of BUSH more than Obama. Obama now has to include BUSH’s spending which was not included prior OR the BUSH budget would have had even bigger deficits increasing the debt even more. And I’m not sure about the ressesion statement concerning Clinton’s turning over the WH to Bush. I don’t seem to remember that like I did when Bush left office. I was doing pretty well then.

        8. Jim Myers January 2, 2013

          Replying to onedonewong –

          No problem.

          You seem to be doing that quite well yourself.

        9. Jesgena Aluqdah January 2, 2013

          that is true,however it stemed from the Prior party making it happen…….had we not been in tht worst economic state, the dem, would not have had to borrow to get this debt….. please

        10. RobertCHastings January 3, 2013

          You should take your own advice. The Debt was $10T before Obama took the oath of office, and that was with the assistance of GW, his tax cuts for the wealthy, and his endless War on Terror. Just heard today that AIG has paid back $215B, so the stimulus plans were not such a bad idea as this, along with the auto industry and many others, will help reduce the Deficit and the Debt,or do you think the Republicans will find some pork to spend it on, since they write the money bills?

      2. manfred January 1, 2013

        That’s why they are called fiscal responsible as long as it furthers their cause and then send the bill to the middle class and retirees!

      3. Plznnn January 1, 2013

        Hey Brainiac Fern, please think without showing your obvious hatred for Bush & Republicans. Even with the 911 attacks, Katrina, and tax cuts, the spending under Bush was half of what Obama spent in just 4 years. BO promised to cut our debt in half and have unemployment down to 5.6% when he doubled the debt to 17Trillion AND kept unemployment over 8% for 43 straight months, two wonderful NEW records.

        1. Fern Woodfork January 1, 2013

          Hey Plznn Go Fuck Yourself!! You Too Are A Lying Rat Bastard Stop Talking To Me!!!!! I Give Less Than A Damn What Your Tea Bagging Koch Brothers Ass Kissing Punk Ass Have To Say!! I Don’t Hate No One I Just Don’t Want Those Lying Country Destroy Assholes Holding Office!!! Go Catch Up With Your Crowd And Take onesuckdong With You!! Bye Bitch!!!

    2. onedonewong January 1, 2013

      progress are you nuts this is just more spending and more debt. Barak had said that the tax increases were to pay down the debt and he plans on spending every dime on more social programs.

      1. MichaelWVa January 1, 2013

        More of your Republican myths – the problem with your statement is the fact that: NO NEW PROGRAMS are proposed!!!
        That, “tell a lie, over and over and over and over . . . and it will be true”, methodology already failed in the last election. America is on to you “dogmatically – protect the rich, at all costs” REpugs! so you can cut the crap!

        Any new taxes will pay to reduce the amount of debt or the increase in the debt — period!!!

        1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

          unemployemnt, green energy tax credits, and a host of others. Even CBO has said this deal ADDDDDDS $4 Trillion to the dbt

      2. Dominick Vila January 1, 2013

        The $62B a year increase in revenues will be used to reduce the deficit. The Senate bill simply extended resolution of the spending reduction plan two months to give everyone time to come up with viable options to achieve that goal without impacting the economy, our standard of living and national security.
        The size of government, as it pertains to civil servant population, is at its lowest point in decades. Social Security, MEDICARE and MEDICAID have not been expanded. The proposed expansion of MEDICAID needed to implement ACA is scheduled to take place in 2014 and has absolutely nothing to do with the current budget.

        1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

          There is no plan to reduce spending the $62B is to used for Unemployment benefits, and green energy tax credits if you read the analysis by CBO. They said the deal will ADDDDDD $4 trillion to the debt OVER and above current red ink budgeting

      3. William January 1, 2013

        You really are an IDIOT aren’t you!!

        1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

          guess cyphering isn’t something your good at

          1. Fern Woodfork January 2, 2013

            Why Don’t You Just Shut The Fuck Up Nobody’s Buying Your Bullshit !! The Election Is Over Your Thug Romney Lost!! So You Can Stop With Your Bullshit We Didn’t Buy Into It Then And We Damn Sure Not Buying It Now !! Go Catch Up With Your Lying Ass Crowd On WND = Wacko N Dummies!!

  7. andmynameis January 1, 2013

    Everything needs to be amended, we need people like us to vote on such matters that affect the People of the US, Not the overpaid, uncaring people that do it now.

    1. martykayzee January 1, 2013

      How about if we vote to amend your willful inanity?

  8. labrown69 January 1, 2013

    Excuse me partisans. I am liberal as the day is long but we can not continue spending faster than we produce. The Republicans are not correct about almost anything but they are not wrong on this. If I was a Republican, I would not throw away the only leverage I had to achieve meaningful spending cuts just to raise taxes on high income earners which in fact will do almost nothing to address the real problems.

  9. Annemb January 1, 2013

    So, the House is looking for more tax cuts are they?

    How about cutting corporate welfare and oil subsidies for a start!

    1. BDC_57 January 1, 2013

      They would not go for that guess who got the tea baggers in.

  10. Michael Mitchell January 1, 2013

    Time for Pres Obama to put the squeeze on them. Start removing fed $s from their districts and watch the squawking.

  11. winyan January 1, 2013

    Eric Cantor is an a*s and needs to go back to whatever hole he crawled out of.

  12. Sam January 1, 2013

    Is it possible to be a greater ‘arschloch’ than Eric Cantor….except possibly in the person of Rush Limbaugh ?

    1. Jim Myers January 2, 2013

      Replying to Sam –

      You forgot to mention Grover Norquist and his slaves in Congress.

  13. hope these ‘no’ bodies are preparing their resumes-they’re going to need them come 2014

  14. Charles Richard Eminizer January 1, 2013

    republicans want a spending cut. Here is one:

    ABOLISH THE CIA!!!!!~~

    They are useless!!!!!~~ They are always wrong, no matter what they say anyway!!!!!~~
    WE ARE BROKE!!!!!~~

    1. Jim Myers January 2, 2013

      Replying to Charles Richard Eminizer –

      I can’t believe I am sticking up for the CIA, but they do have a critical mission. They provide security and covert ops outside the United States.

      Without them, we would likely be answering to the Russians or the Chinese.

      They certainly have their share of screw ups, but I think that just reflects the nature of their business.

      Intelligence collection and interpretation are not an exact science. Never has been, never will be.

  15. Valerie Bragdon Crawford January 1, 2013

    Boehner and Cantor need to be fired!! Who do they think they are? Pass the bill an let’s get on with the New Year!

    1. Rosemary Butt January 1, 2013

      Boehner just needs a backbone, HE can call for an up or down vote. He isn’t doing that, he is afraid of losing his speaker of the house job.

  16. Imaseniorcitizen January 1, 2013

    I suggest; everyone in congress get’s their benefits as well as their travel expenses cut, retirement age set 75 …

    1. Cairndance January 1, 2013

      They need their salary reduced to line up with the amount of work that was actually accomplished each year! If they don’t want to work, they shouldn’t expect large salaries and benefites.
      We certainly don’t get paid when we refuse to do our jobs!

  17. Pamela Estep Ball Boyd January 1, 2013

    Why cant both houses and our president stop their bickering, get serious, get to working on helping the hard working people like myself , who elected each of you, sent you to Washington to work in our best interest. Our hard earned dollars are what each of you are living high on the hog with, while the rest of us are suffering, wondering where next meal coming from many times.Each one of you involved should be ashamed of yourselfish selves.

  18. Tritan74 January 1, 2013

    Gwt your heads out of your tails and get this fixed now!!!!

  19. Pi_Boson January 1, 2013

    Eric Cantor will only vote for funding defense, tax payer susidies to big oil businesses, and tax relief for the top 5%.

  20. Pi_Boson January 1, 2013

    Eric Cantor is the pillar of what is not wanted around the holidays – pure evil, pure hate, pure selfishness.

  21. Arlene January 1, 2013

    Spending cuts is too much austerity too fast. What do you think the cliff is anyhow? Don’t you even understand the basic problem at the moment. It is curbing spending too fast. Replying to labrown69

  22. Rosemary Butt January 1, 2013

    I think the President has NOTHING to do with what is going on now, don’t blame him, the Senate passed a bill, its ok with all but 8 Senators. Speaker Boehner said”if the Senate passes a bill, the house WILL have an up or down vote. Looks like he has gone back on his word, not the President.

    1. Lynda January 1, 2013

      I hope that nobody belived the Speaker meant what he said. It was just that cowards way of pushing the work and potential blame on somebody else. A pox on all of them.

  23. I Zheet M'Drawz January 1, 2013

    If they send the economy ‘over the cliff’ I wonder how long until some serious shit starts between militias & the gub’mint. Things are already a disaster for millions of (armed) Americans.

    These guys are going to make it worse, on purpose, to protect the companies & industries that contributed to their campaign coffers?

    Where I come from we call that ‘bribary’. And considering they are acting in the best interests of their campaign contributors & NOT the people they are sworn to represent I might venture forth an argument they are in violation of their oath of office which should trigger Congressional action against them.

    So go ahead, take US over the cliff at high speed. I dare you.

  24. Charles Richard Eminizer January 1, 2013



  25. kathleenk January 1, 2013

    I think a giant recall is in order. Do you REALLY think these people care about us?

  26. gcollie1 January 1, 2013

    I have been saying it for the last three elections, VOTE OUT ALL INCUMBENTS !!

    1. neeceoooo January 1, 2013

      and we are trying to do that but some people keep getting in the way

    2. karinursula January 1, 2013

      What we need are term limits just like the presidency.

  27. Peter Brown January 1, 2013

    Much better for the country that we go over the cliff, the effect will be absolutely minimal, we return to some of the safe and sane Clinton era policies and the GOP gets told that blackmail does not work.

    1. neeceoooo January 1, 2013

      I have to agree on that

  28. Patricia Turrell January 1, 2013

    why don’t they just euthanize all of us retired senior citizens. then they won’t have to contend with socoal security. I am 82 yrs. old and have paid into the system for 62 of those yrs. what have they paid innto it

  29. Roswell Evans January 1, 2013

    This is working perfect, I’ve studied Cloward Piven Strategy, look it up to see what I mean.

  30. RogerParker January 1, 2013

    The Republican party has become a national and global embarrassment. A party that has simply decided that the only answer to any bill or idea that is not theirs is “NO!”, has no reason to be in office. If these egotistical nitwits and nimrods don’t consider the citzens of this country, they better not expect much in the 2014 election. Grow the hell up, act like elected representatives, get down to business as reasonable adults or get out of Washington and go home to your playpen.
    The country is fed up with this unrelenting childish behavior!

  31. Johnny Thomas January 1, 2013

    We still have to much control by the some ass holes that favor their buddies .They should not have a vote when they have a conflict of this sort .They are suppose to be serving us the regular people not their buddies >all those voted by this form should be thrown for confict of interest .They do not give damn about us now the president has fallen to their week interest in the real people the working people .The bills they past will help even lesser of what the president submitted and they claimed that it was week on helping they ment not helping their buddies enough .Sick bunch of sorry piles of rich shit eaters .

  32. Pamby50 January 1, 2013

    Surprise, surprise, surprise. The house republicans passed their responsibilites to the senate. The senate comes up with a bill that both republicans & democrats don’t like but they pass it anyway. Boehner said that if the senate passes a bill the house would vote on it. Now they won’t even bring it to the floor for an up or down vote.

  33. Reginald January 1, 2013

    Vote yes on the Senate bill passeded 89-8 on New Years by the United States Senators.

  34. William McCrain January 1, 2013

    Here are the idiots we have elected to run the country, democrats and republicans.
    Finger pointing is not the answer!! PAST THE BILL AND KEEP THE COUNTRY RUNING DUMMY’S.

  35. William McCrain January 1, 2013

    Here are the idiots we have elected to run the country, democrats and republicans.
    Finger pointing is not the answer!! PAST THE BILL AND KEEP THE COUNTRY RUNING DUMMY’S.

  36. Jeansees January 1, 2013

    Vote Cantor and these other repubs out 2014 before they destroy us completely!!!

  37. Jeansees January 1, 2013

    McCain and his cronies are not caring about the American people at all… He is just out for hatred against the President!!!

  38. James D January 1, 2013

    When will the Democrats learn that you cannot negotiate with terrorists and the enemies of the United States. These guys destroyed our credit rating and want to destroy social security, medicare, and dozens of safety net programs that have been with this nation since President Roosevelt. Give them an inch and they try to take over the nation. The are full of lies and trickery…..they gerrymandered themselves to prevent voters from removing them. We have to get rid of this disease or Tea Party nuts!

  39. vtu106 January 1, 2013

    They want a pay rise , well I will send a few new brooms to clean house down there . Then we can get some people in there that will work for what they get payed to to do They are all on a power trip from what I can see and the biggest one is the speaker of the house , he is a complete ass hole

    1. karinursula January 1, 2013

      How may days did they work last year???? Why don’t you try that on a regular job, I bet we would get fired in a minute. Yes we need spending cuts,but not on the back of the poor and older people. Why not start with Defense and their salaries and perks.

      1. karinursula January 1, 2013

        Of course it is suppose to be how many days

  40. RonaldS January 1, 2013

    The far-right of Repugs in Congress care only about two things: 1. Their reelection vis-a-vis fear of being “primaried” in 2014 by even more extremists. 2. Detesting anything related to government assistance to the less-fortunate. The irony is that most of their constituents are white middle class who will be hurt by their elected representatives. However, these are the morons that voted them in as their bigotry was a greater influence on them than pragmatism. Sad.

  41. GARYS January 1, 2013

    congress needs to pass this bill, and fight another day on spending cuts, the economy is more important then saving a few dollars today, eric cantor needs to be ousted he is a spoiled brat and only thinks of what is best for him

  42. labrown69 January 1, 2013

    Do you honestly believe we are not spending excessively and that no cuts are necessary?

  43. GARYS January 1, 2013

    you are right, why don’t you run for congress

  44. onlitrade January 1, 2013

    It is time to take names.

  45. stcroixcarp January 1, 2013

    I tried to call my congressman today to ask him to put away his tea party agenda and VOTE. It is what we pay the dufus to do. But I couldn’t even leave a message because his voice mail was full. These guys will do anything to avoid their constituents. Please try calling or emailing your congressman now.

  46. onedonewong January 1, 2013

    Only in Bizarro world do you face a $16 Trillion in debt raise taxes and then increase spending…Its obvious again and again that the boy wonder is over his head. barak do the nation a favor and RESIGN… You already achieved what you wanted the title of “Worst President Ever”

    1. Lynda January 1, 2013

      You’ve forgotten what got us to the $16 trillion level haven’t you. Why is the question when the facts are in your face? When the last Bush budget was over the debt level was over $11 trillion or have you decided that only funding since counts? Keep it real and put aside your fear, hate and distrust for it clouds judgement.

      1. onedonewong January 1, 2013

        No I know exactly what got us here. The dems took over congress in 2007 and then managed to add the $10 Trillion to the deficit and the “new” deal that the Senate just passed will add another $4 trillion per CBO

    2. robert January 2, 2013

      onedonewong, who hurt you, honey? Did a Democrat break your tender little heart? You are so broken hearted, your thought processes goes beyonf reason. But let me take you by your little trembling hands and hold you in these big strong arms of mine. o===8 O’yeah, whose your daddy now, honey? You knooooow what I like! Urgh!. . . Your deficit reduction is on the dresser, toots. Get out. I’m through with you.

  47. Lynda January 1, 2013

    The administration has shown the white feather on the tax rate to the obstructionist and yet it is clearly not enough.

  48. rodrigo January 1, 2013

    This Republican Congress and Representative, they don’t care about the economy and the poor people, they only care about themselves. Yeah will see this coming election who’s begging for vote. They want to destroy our economy. So I beg all the voters in 2014, do not send this people again in Washington, teach them a lesson. I don’t know what’s wrong with these Congress and Representative. Also they’re the one who destroying our economy. I thought 2013 will be a good year…………..

  49. Mark Ickowski January 1, 2013

    Thats why we call the repubs the party of NO. They don t know how to compromise. They only care about their own dumb asses.

  50. Richie T January 1, 2013

    14 of thee Current members on Congress have been in office more then thirty six years.
    They have absolutely no idea what it’s like trying to survive in the current economy that they’ve been destroying for years because of the all the “ego, power trip, control freak” games they’ve been playing
    They don’t elect themselves.
    Almost 1/3 of the National Debt is interest. It’s not because of piS###g away money now.
    It’s because of what they’ve already done. Cutting the spending, needs to be a major part of it, the interest STILL has to be dealt with. Just enough to start lowering it, even if it’s only by a couple of thousand dollars. The longer it gets jerked around, it not only gets bigger, it grows faster

  51. Angel January 1, 2013

    KEEPING IT THOUGHTFULLY HONEST: So Boehner where are the JOBS as you asked during the election? It is the responsibility of our National Press News to accurately on this “going off the cliff” political hostage issue? FACTCHECK who is conducting the republican clown show in House of Reps.? Publicly name each clown! Everyone is entitled to its own opinions but its own facts! But our Free Press and News needs to responsibly remind everyone including Boehner and his republican clowns of the results of this election. So where are the negotiations on Government stimulus funding to facilitate more American new jobs growth for the middle class? THE INCONVENIENT TRUTH: The republican’s election issue of 10 years of the continued Bush tax cuts for billionaires and millionaires that significantly contributed to our national debt and created new jobs in Communist China lost! Fiscal Responsible Debt Reduction is secondary. The Ryan Plan was defeated- No voucher or cuts for Medicare and leave Social Security alone for now! This is not rocket science! That’s it! The National Press and News stop trying to be politically correct, but responsibly call out the republicans that their “hostage taking obstruction to undermine our economy” and intransigence’s on their unacceptable defeated policies will put them out of the political business! America’s middle Class is fed up with you irresponsible idiots with the past four years of class war on the American Middle Class! The majority of Americans have spoken so deal with the new reality! So where are the jobs?

    1. Richie T January 1, 2013

      They lost and they’re still playing games. At this point, if they actually think
      Nov 4 2014 is going to be a good day for them, they have a problem.

      1. Jim Myers January 2, 2013

        Replying to Richie T –

        The real problem is that the same idiots who voted for them the last time will continue to vote for them in the future.

        There is no intelligent life form there.

    2. Fern Woodfork January 2, 2013

      Romney And The Rest Of The So Called Business Men Are Shipping Them Overseas To India And China Sweatshops!!

  52. Richard Fairfield January 1, 2013

    The extremists in the Republican Party hate government and will do anything they can to destroy it. The role of the Democrats, Progressives, and those few Republican moderates that are left, must keep repeating to the public what these obstructionists are doing to harm the country – repeat consistently and over and over again – send the message until the mid-terms when, hopefully, we can vote those right-wingers out and get back to rational governance.

  53. Rubendlct January 1, 2013

    Cantor, Ryan, Cantor, Ryan, Cantor, Ryan, Cantor, Ryan, Cantor, Ryan, Cantor, Ryan…They have to go!!!! I believe Bohner’s arm is been twisted badly by these two blood-power suckers and they need to go. I Think the Speaker is a good man who tries his best to get something done for the party within the limits. He knows he can’t get EVERYTHING and so does Obama, yet, he (Bohner) tries his best to negotiate. Cantor and Ryan do noit care about the country; they are both ideological idiots fighting for Bohner’s job, but he doesn’t realize that…Well, not yet…

  54. Robert January 1, 2013

    This is still about the President, Gop are determend to bet this man. American people Who!!!!!!!!?

    1. manfred January 1, 2013

      judging by the GOP’s behavior, they are foreign to the the American system!

  55. manfred January 1, 2013

    What is the matter with those morons? They behave like little boys in a sandbox preserving their territory. Send them back home and let them grow up, they are just not ready to behave responsibly. Poor country!

  56. Barbara DeFratis January 1, 2013

    This Why this Independent has sworn off the rEPUBLICAN pARTY–The choice has become either Vote For the republicans or Vote For the United States of America.

  57. bh1202 January 1, 2013

    The republican party should be ashamed of themselves. All they’re concerned about is keeping the wealthiest from having to pay higher taxes. Guess what? THEY are the only ones that can afford to pay higher taxes. The middle class salaries have been flat and stayed that way for over the last 5 years. We the middle class don’t exist anymore. The republicans want to get that last dime out of what little is left from of the 98%.

  58. Carol Stevenson January 1, 2013

    I agree -VOTE THEM OUT OF OFFICE. Damm the republicans—they are for the very rich –not caring about the middle or low class–who pay more in taxes then the wealthy . And it should be the $250,000 not $450,000 that have to pay at higher tax bracket. We need to get our people back to work–build up the nation –work together for the greater good of the people. Stop the “rich get richer” and the poor get poorer.

  59. Frances Cappelletti January 1, 2013

    How can the Republican Congress be so obtuse? Because they have so many tea party knuckleheads in their midst. They don’t understand how you govern, and how many people will be hurt by their intransigence . We can only hope that enough level heads will prevail. Pass the bill so the economy doesn’t take a dive. It’s a decent bill. Don’t let the perfect get in the way of the possible. Other matters will be taken up in the coming months and years.

  60. stuart21 January 1, 2013

    “That’ll teach you the people for voting for a black man over our superior whiteness and divine right. Who cares if it means the end of our party?”

  61. Thomas Mbaka January 1, 2013

    All these guys mostly from the republican party ought to be replaced by the year 2014, they do not understand a word of compromise help the common man, they get huge pay and forget that we as common people are the ones paying them to work and meet our interests. People like cantor, and the majority are praying around pretending that they are fighting for the good of a middle man,they are doing zero work in the house, come the time let us vote them out.

  62. Frances Cappelletti January 1, 2013

    I also tried to call Cantor today, but guess what? His voice mail was full! I was so surprised! Not! With all the money we taxpayers give him you would think he has enough staff to empty his bucket of unwanted criticism. Do you think he doesn’t want to hear from the ‘People?

  63. edward January 1, 2013

    the last ten years with wars paying on credit,now we have to pay the bill.On the back hard working Americans,not wealthy did pay a dime.When there needed the bayout,who they come to for help.The same 98% hard working class people for there hands out.The turn around stab us in the back again.What did Congress do, they did nothing but let them get away with it.Don’t pass this bill it will burn us 98% American people.Go over the cliff and do this the right way.

  64. bcarreiro January 1, 2013


  65. Robin O'Brien January 1, 2013

    This morning I cheered out loud and cried tears of relief for my family. I’m barely getting by and $3,000 is ALOT of money. Now the House is pulling the rug out from under millions of middle and lower class families. What a f _ _ _-ing roller coaster ride! Those of you protecting/defending those making over $400,000 will get what you deserve….

    Quit thinking only of what you gain and think of what our country could gain!
    They all need to be fired!!!!!!!!

  66. bchrista January 1, 2013

    It’s amazing how these Republican lackeys keep repeating the same old line that raising the taxes on the rich won’t help reduce the Debt much please tell me how the country managed to be in great financial position when the Clinton taxes were inforce and the minute old Bushy Boy lowered the taxes on the rich and the coorperations the country started a downward spiral and it wasn’t until Obama took over that the country started climbing back out of the hole it was in because Reagan’s trickle down wasn’t worth thepaper it was written on. The people that benifited the most, the filthy rich didn’t reinvest they way Reagan said they would, instead they sent it over seas Banks so they wouldn’t have to pay the taxes here in America and these assholes like onedonewong , CannisterCook Lana Ward keep defending these policies even if it affects them, they must be sending their money over sea also, hum!

  67. Plznnn January 1, 2013

    Will someone on this site please explain what is wrong with Spending Cuts? The entire concept of the Group of 8 was to force Congress to stop Spending us into debt so if they couldn’t agree on Spending cuts, there would be automatic cuts. Obama & most Democrats only want to raise taxes and the debt ceiling “again”. And if they agree to “any” spending cuts, its $41 in new taxes to $1 in Spending cuts. Tell us how that helps our national debt and serious consequences of ignoring this Spending again? Obama consentrates on more taxes on the “sort of wealthy”, and wealthy, but never shows us where he would cut Spending? Let’s be real here.

    1. Jim Myers January 2, 2013

      Replying to Plznnn –

      Where did you get $41 in new taxes and $1 in spending cuts?

      OH, WAIT!! I forgot, you listen to all those people who publish “Balanced News”, like Rush, Faux News, Glenn, Ann, Etc.

  68. Richard White January 1, 2013

    The Republican Majority Leader is guaranteeing that the Republican Party will lose the House, Republican Govenors up for reelection and even a Republican trash collector.

    1. NotRappaport January 1, 2013

      I hope you’re right. But the Dems need to flip a lot of GOP-gerrymandered districts. Faux News and disinformation radio will convince many low-information voters that the coming economic downturn is Obama’s fault. Come November 2014, how many of those conservative-leaning voters will even realize that their GOP congressmen tanked the economy?

    2. Jim Myers January 2, 2013

      Replying to Richard White –

      Unfortunately, I think you massively over estimate the intelligence of the voting class in the Red States.

  69. Ayaya Worenwu January 1, 2013

    Republican congress members always think that they are above and better than voters. Let’s throw all of them out come next congresssional elections.

  70. oldtack January 1, 2013

    I hate to burst some people’s bubbles but in the next two months we will see cuts to many of our domestic programs and entitlement programs. This Country was established on the principal of not spending more than our revenue. If situations arose that necessitated borrowing then we made adjustments to domestic programs to off set the debt. This was more or less the standard . Even in WWII with it’s expense our Nation reacted on the home front by rationing foods and amenities in about every area to help offset the debt.
    After that time our Nation began acting like an immature teenager with Dad’s credit card.
    Thus began the steady upward creep of the National Debt. Between 2001 and 2009 we entered two wars on borrowed money and made no internal adjustments to attempt to offset the cost. The years 2009-2013 saw a continuation because by this time we were in the debt spiral. To even begin to address this problem we need two basics – we need increased revenue (taxes) and we need an increase in good paying jobs in the private sector. and we need to make serious adjustments to our domestic and entitlement programs and our International support programs.

    This is not completely the fault of the Republican Party. I would like to lay all the blame there but that can’t be justified. The entire Government for the last 68 years has been culpable in creating this monster with which we now deal.

    This is going to be a rough time but we need to work together on both sides of the aisle to achieve any type of solution.

  71. awakenaustin January 1, 2013

    Mr. Cantor is apparently pursuing his leadership ambitions at the expense of his country. His behavior puts him right in line with his parties general attitude of pursuing its political ambitions at the expense of the nation.

  72. Brian January 1, 2013

    When these members of congress agree to accept the same constraints in their medical insurance as those they are demanding for the less fortunate among us, I might consider their proposals as worthy of debate. Otherwise, same old Repub/Tea Party bs.

    Have they not read the election results?

    Or perhaps they’re already tired of DC politics and want this to be their last term

  73. ivory69690 January 2, 2013

    House Speaker John Boehner has not indicated whether he will ultimately support the measure, but in a statement released by his office, he and Majority Leader Eric Cantor warned that “The lack of spending cuts in the Senate bill was a universal concern among members in today’s meeting.”/// and the lack of the greedy bastards paying their fair share of tax’es is a universal and major concern of the ppl. of this country . as for these GOP-DING-DONGS that are going to let the country go over the cliff and one knows when it come’s time for the debt. to be raised thy will be blocking that too . and not caring about the country’s credit rating . ppl of this country watch and remember these GOP idiots when it come’s time for them to be reelected cant you see the GOP Only want to stop and go backwards get rid of them so the country can move forward

  74. ivory69690 January 2, 2013

    the sandy school shooting was such a waste of innocent ppl. too bad we cant talk those nuts to shot the evil ones

  75. ANNE RICH January 2, 2013

    As much as we all like the blame game…truth is…it’s everybody’s fault.

    I have relatives that are waiting to see if Unemployment Benefits are going to be extended before they look for a job. I know people who never worked a day in the US who came here in their 60’s and get Medicaid and social security supplemental income. They get subsidized housing, money for food, money for utilities and the list goes on and on. We cannot continue to spend money at this rate and expect any different result.

  76. clarenceswinney January 2, 2013


  77. Victor Sindoni January 2, 2013

    Term limits are the answer, after one term, new blood transfusions should
    be the order of the day. VACCINATE THE HOUSE & SENATE… KILL ANY


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