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How The Clinton Foundation Became A ‘Scandal’

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton tapes an appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel Show in Los Angeles, California, August 22, 2016. REUTERS/Aaron P. Bernstein

Twenty years ago, James Fallows wrote an essay for The Atlantic called “Why Americans Hate the Media.” Fallows’ thesis was illustrated today by the political media’s coverage of the release of emails associated with Hillary Clinton while secretary of state.

His thesis was this: Instead of reporting the policy positions of candidates, and assessing their merits, the political press tends to abdicate its responsibilities in favor of reporting “politics.”

Put another way, instead of telling Americans the truth of the matter, anchored in observable reality and concrete fact, the political press tends to chase after “appearances,” “atmospherics,” and “optics.”

The outcome of this is the politicization of everything.

Let me explain.

The Washington Post yesterday reported that on three occasions Clinton’s top aide Huma Abedin was contacted by donors to the Clinton Foundation asking for favors. The outcome of one was a meeting. The outcome of the others was nothing. That’s it.

More specifically, Doug Band, a chief executive at the Clinton Foundation, emailed Abedin about meeting with a Crown Prince of Bahrain. According to the Wall Street Journal, Abedin chided Band for not going through “proper channels.” After doing that, the prince got a meeting with Clinton. Nothing was reported of its substance.

Band contacted Abedin on behalf of U2’s Bono and sports executive Casey Wasserman, both foundation donors. Could Clinton help Bono promote an overseas charity event? “No clue,” Abedin said. Could Clinton help fast-track a visa for a British soccer player? Abedin said she had reservations. Band said never mind. No visa resulted.

That’s the story. In other words, there is no evidence from these emails to support claims by Judicial Watch, a right-wing group, or Donald Trump that the Clinton Foundation was rife with pay-for-play.

Yet our media isn’t saying this.

Instead, it is playing up Clinton’s “struggle” to figure out a way to “handle” the controversy and its challenging “optics.” Never mind that quid pro quo means something for something. In this case, the emails show the opposite–favors requested, favors denied.

Now, some are asking whether executives at the Clinton Foundation should be making these requests at all, and I think we can all say that no, they should not. If I can’t get an audience with the nation’s top diplomat, why should Bono just because he gave a lot of money?

But that’s how power works. We know this. We also know that very rich people often believe they are entitled to access to power by dint of being very rich. Like it or not, that’s the norm. In other words, rich people will ask for favors just as the sun rises in the east, sets in the west. The question is how do you deal with that ethically.

It turns out, pretty well. Thanks to a lawsuit brought by Judicial Watch to unseal these emails in an attempt to damage Clinton’s campaign, we know that Huma Abedin did a good job. As political blogger Kevin Drum over at Mother Jones noted:

“What’s really noteworthy about the most recent email releases is that they demonstrate a surprisingly high level of integrity from Hillary Clinton’s shop at Foggy Bottom. Huma Abedin was tasked with running interference on favor seekers, and she seems to have done exactly that.”

I don’t expect reporters to make such judgments, but I do expect them to do their jobs, which brings me back to Fallows’ classic essay. Americans expect the media to do something no one else can do: report what politicians say, but also assess and report the truth.

In the case of this so-called “scandal,” assess whether there is any merit to Trump’s assertion that the emails prove Clinton is for sale. If that’s true, the emails should show us. But they don’t. Indeed, they show the opposite, a team that’s surprisingly ethically aware.

But reporters covering the campaign are not saying that.

It gets worse.

When reporters abdicate their duties, they created an environment in which everything has the potential to be political, even the truth.

When reporters didn’t report, for instance, that Judicial Watch is indeed a right-wing group, it was left to Clinton’s campaign spokesman to say it. As soon as he did, he legitimized Judicial Watch’s toxic effort, because his remarks were seen as partisan.

When reporters didn’t conclude there was no basis to Republican claims that Clinton’s State Department was accessible to the highest bidder, it was left to a State Department spokesman to say it. As soon as Mark Toner uttered the words, he validated the accusation.

This story was a no brainer. All reporters had to say was say: Trump said blah blah blah, but it doesn’t look like there’s anything to it.

But they didn’t.

No wonder, as Fallows said, Americans hate the media.

Photo: Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton tapes an appearance on the Jimmy Kimmel Show in Los Angeles, California, August 22, 2016.  REUTERS/Aaron P. Bernstein



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  2. charleo1 August 25, 2016

    I think I’ve said this before, but the American people are just going to have to be more discerning about what is said in the mainstream media, and just as vigilant about what is not, and why it not. And also, about coming to see false equivalencies for what they are. Truth being sacrificed at the alter of appearing to be even handed. In the context of the Right’s tactic of constantly bullying the press into bending over backward, so as not to appear to be biased toward the Left. Even when the facts of the matter clearly support the Left’s position. Baseless assertions, and wild musings of nut jobs like Louie Gohmert, or Steve King, will be given the considerable benefit of possible legitimacy by the fawning reporter. As if there were actually two truths here, and gosh, they themselves just can’t say. So it comes down to this with the vaunted 4th Estate. Trump did see that non existent video of Muslims celebrating after 9/11 in NJ. Inasmuch, and presented with equal veracity, Hillary Clinton could have intentionally sent those 3 confidential e-mails out the thousands that passed thru her office on an unprotected server, and is now lying about it. And that’s why everyone is having such a hard time trusting her. Not Trump, mind you, :”Crooked,” Hillary is the one according to the press, “having a casual relationship with the truth.” Not Donald Trump. It really is why we sometimes hate the press. What they have become, and why it’s so vital they get back to doing their job of actually informing the public. And one more peeve if I may? The press should mind its own business, and leave the entertainment, and the infomercial marketing to the other divisions within the media conglomerate.

    1. plc97477 August 25, 2016

      I also have no interest in who is sleeping with whom in hollywood, nor any interest in what the kardashians are up to.

      1. idamag August 25, 2016

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      2. dpaano August 25, 2016

        I don’t think any intelligent American citizen does either, but apparently the news agencies seem to think we do! They are so out of touch with what we want or need to hear news-wise….it’s pretty pitiful! Watching the news nowadays is ridiculous and trying to glean truth from BS is difficult even for the educated public.

      3. charleo1 August 25, 2016

        Amen, and thank you brother!

    2. dpaano August 25, 2016

      Totally agree….I get tired of hearing about this murder, that murder, this conspiracy theory, etc. What ever happened to decent journalists like Cronkite and the others? I really miss them!!! They let NO ONE bully them when it came to telling the American people the truth.

      1. charleo1 August 25, 2016

        I don’t know. But it seems journalistic giants like Cronkite, or Edward Murrow for another, seen their work as a vocation attached to a higher calling. Instead of just another assignment from corporate on the way to one day heading up their own cable news/reality shows, where the big bucks, and celebrity status can be found.

  3. FireBaron August 25, 2016

    If it weren’t for the New York Times, the Washington Post, and Fox News, nobody in America would have ever heard of any of these manufactured scandals. Apparently, whenever the name “Clinton” rears its ugly head, fact-checking goes out the window in those organizations.

    1. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

      And the joke is that all are owned by Ultra Cons. This isn’t really about Hillary. It is ALL about what Hillary represents: Massive change in the way government will go forward. An end to endless for profit wars, an end to for profit prisons and an and to denying voting rights to minority citizens. And most of all an end to big mouth bigots who have reduced this country to that of some dictatorship.

    2. Dominick Vila August 25, 2016

      The only reason the Clinton Foundation became a pseudo scandal is because of the ignorance and gullibility of millions of Americans.
      The Clinton Foundation record is open to the public. That institution has been checked routinely by the IRS, the same way all other charitable institutions are. No evidence of fraud or wrongdoing has been ever found.
      Suggesting that something is intrinsically wrong because foreign donors, most of who are foreign political and financial leaders, met with former Secretary Clinton or President Obama after donating to the Foundation is plain dumb. Foreign leaders, and foreign icons, meet with our President and Cabinet members, routinely, regardless of whether they donate to the Clinton Foundation, to any other charitable institution, or to none.
      The only thing that is evident is that lacking a vision, or even a desire to provide details about how Trump would govern if elected, the only thing left for them to do is another smear campaign.

  4. Theodora30 August 25, 2016

    People in the media are calling for the Clinton Foundation to be shut down to avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest but they are not calling for Trump to shut down or sell off his businesses. Trump says his kids will run them which certainly does not avoid the appearance of conflicts of interest with his wealthy investors. Or with Trump’s own interests. I can just imagine him opening up national parks to private interests so he can build golf courses in them. (I am only half joking about that possibility.)

    1. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

      It doesn’t have to be shut down. It is NOT a private Foundation. You want to see real private foundations? Check out those you see on PBS with the words, “Trust” after them.

      These are private foundations that ONLY donate to their preferred charities. They do not donate to global efforts to reduce hunger in third world countries, educate and advance the causes of women and children.

      I am so sick of idiots of the right who every day feed on their spiteful, hateful little network of lies lies lies.

      The Republicans and right wing lie so often and with such ferocity that no one believes a single word they say anymore. Great country we live in.

      1. dpaano August 25, 2016

        I don’t think they even believe anything anymore, but they are brainwashed to just believe whatever the GOP tells them to believe! They’ve been lied to so often that they actually don’t know the difference between a lie, a conspiracy theory, and the truth!!!

    2. dpaano August 25, 2016

      God, I hope you’re joking…..after what he did to the people living on the outskirts of his Scotland golf course, I’d be appalled if he had the reins over our national parks!!!

      1. Theodora30 August 25, 2016

        Republicans want to privatize our national parks or turn them over to the states, many of which are run by right wingers who would like to do so. After all they do not believe that the government should do anything except defense and managing the economy to benefit the wealthy. How far a stretch is it that Trump and others like him would take advantage of this?


  5. Jinmichigan August 25, 2016

    Funny, George H Bush ran his Fountains of Light Foundation from the Oval Office. What a joke this has become.

    1. idamag August 25, 2016

      And, what about the millions trump raised for veterans?

      1. dpaano August 25, 2016

        Yeah, the “bogus” millions that he was finally forced to pay out when the news media brought it to the attention of the American public that none of the funds collected were ever given out! Plus, a couple of the groups were proven to be scam groups and had nothing to do with helping veterans at all!

    2. Otto T. Goat August 25, 2016

      Bush did not operate the Points of Light Foundation from the Oval Office.

      1. Jinmichigan August 25, 2016

        You are wrong.

    1. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

      Hey dipshit. The NY Post? The same skanky rag that is owned by Rupert ULTA CON Murdoch? Really?

      Here is the search query from FactCheck.org, an UNBIASED source:http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/

      “Republican presidential candidate Carly Fiorina says that “so little” of the charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation “actually go to charitable works” — a figure CARLY for America later put at about 6 percent of its annual revenues — but Fiorina is simply wrong.

      Fiorina and others are referring only to the amount donated by the Clinton Foundation to outside charities, ignoring the fact that most of the Clinton Foundation’s charitable work is performed in-house. One independent philanthropy watchdog did an analysis of Clinton Foundation funding and concluded that about 89 percent of its funding went to charity.

      Simply put, despite its name, the Clinton Foundation is not a private foundation — which typically acts as a pass-through for private donations to other charitable organizations. Rather, it is a public charity. It conducts most of its charitable activities directly.”

      Now asshat. Does it ever get through that dipshit brain of yours that any Foundation that is NOT private goes through the same federal audits as your hometown library, museums, parks and zoos?

      Grow the hell up moron. You can keep up your bashy boy party until your bald head and fat gut are dust in your wooden coat.

      1. itsfun August 25, 2016

        Charity Navigator is a watch dog of charitable foundations. They put the Clinton Foundation on their watch list, not the NY Post. The Clinton’s do receive “perks” such as free 1st class air flights.
        Again your childish name calling just shows how much you are in need of mental help. Please seek help ASAP.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

          Charity Navigator? You mean the right wing organization that is part of your moron Fundamentalist CONVERSION BS? That is an “independent” charity watchdog…It is NOT sanctioned by the government.

          Did you bitch when the Bush Twins flew 1st Class to NY City Discos, got drunker than skunks and were photo opped with their asses hanging out of their skirts?

          1. itsfun August 25, 2016

            I forgot that if a organization doesn’t have the approval of you, then that organization has no credibility. Why would I or anyone else care about what the Bush twins did 10 years or ago? I bet you got behind them on a stairway and took the pictures of their butts. That would be your speed. By the way have you paid to have anymore of your books published like you did before?

          2. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            Since I was an accounting manager and tech writer for nearly 25 years in environmental engineering and you were a lazy BS artist always playing on you computer keyboard, I know better than YOU EVER will the difference between a private and public foundation.

            You are mentally ill and insist you are always right. Do you ever feel that is just a tad over the edge?

            You don’t care about drunken Bush Twins because you know that’s far worse than anything Our Next President Hillary Clinton has EVER done.

            Why do you keep posting your BS? I am not the one who proved you wrong. Factcheck.org did and boy oh boy how that must really bite your oversized fat “A.”

          3. itsfun August 25, 2016

            How much did you pay to have your books published? Fact check is a leftist organization and has been proven to be something like 60% accurate.
            I don’t recall the Bush girls running for President or any other public office. You can defend the proven liar Hillary all you like. How do you defend her lying to families of the Benghazi victims. How do you defend her claiming to want to help women when she lives with a sexual predator? How do you justify her telling the FBI one story and the Congress another?

            You say you proved me wrong. How about the time I had to tell you the difference between impeachment and removal from office. You told me how Clinton had never been impeached because he finished him term. I explained to you the House impeaches and the Senate holds a trail to remove or not. You called me a liar than. When I copied and pasted the Constitutional passage for you, you called it bogus. Then you accused me of “setting you up”. That alone proves how much you don’t know and how much you will lie to try and get people to believe you. You are a fraud and mentally ill person. Get help ASAP

          4. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            First of all, get over it. I can write technical white papers, SEO content for businesses and blogs and you can’t. I can write 2 suspense novels and NOT PAY A DIME to get them published…And there you sit fat ass and all pea green with envy.

            I did prove you wrong. The Republicans tried to impeach Clinton but here is what the Constitution states about your asshat ideas that a political regime of MEN with no balls think they can do: Section IV, Article II: The President, Vice President and ALL Civil Officers of the United States shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of Treason, Bribery or other HIGH crimes and misdemeanors.

            So jackass. Since when is Clinton’s affair with Monica HIGH CRIMES and Misdemeanors when everyone knew Hastert was guilty of playing with little boys?

            Try again moron. You need to learn not to mess with women who can chew you up and spit you out.

          5. itsfun August 25, 2016

            How can anybody be as dense as you are. Clinton did get impeached by the House. He did not get removed from office because the Senate did not elect to remove him. The Senate holds a trail. He was not convicted by the Senate. How stupid are you? The Senate is the body that convicts to remove. The House impeaches. Its like having a pretrial to see if there is enough evidence to go to trial for a jury to decide to convict or not. The House said there was evidence to impeach and the Senate said there was not enough to remove from office. Clinton was impeached for lying, not for getting a BJ or sticking a cigar you know where.

            As far as technical papers go – any system analyst can write technical papers. You say you can write novels without paying to publish them. Have you or did you pay to get your book published?

        2. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

          And another watchdog group, Charity Watch, give the Clinton Foundation an “A:” rating with 88% of its funds actually going to causes.


      2. dpaano August 25, 2016

        Facts only confuse him…..give itsfun a break!

    2. InformedVoter August 25, 2016

      Ellie is just a no nothing liberal who spews made up facts. I’ve caught her making up stuff and outright lying in an attempt to make herself look intelligent. In the end, she’s just a bitter, man-hating low information person. Notice how she immediately went into name-calling mode? In debate strategy, this is a sure sign that your opponent has nothing to support their position.
      Regarding lies: she slams the NYP with name-calling, then she highlights factcheck as being unbiased when it’s been proven over and over that the folks that run factcheck are funded by the left. And statistically, factcheck has been shown to be accurate only 60% of the time with their “mistakes” being in the left’s favor almost 90%. Unbiased only in the minds of the low information crowd.
      Keep up the good work. If you’ve pissed Ellie off, you know you are doing something right.

      1. itsfun August 25, 2016

        I have been told she was a secretary in real life and never did half the things she says. I was also told she is a man hater because her husband left her for another woman. I have also been told the books she talks about being published, were published because she paid to have them published.
        She is a sad, lonely, hateful person that needs mental help with her hate.

        1. dpaano August 25, 2016

          Apparently, you don’t think for yourself or deal with facts….you just willy nilly believe EVERYTHING that the GOP and their RW media tells you to believe, correct? Get a life, okay…..admit that you’ve been totally brainwashed and that facts only sully the truth! By the way, what about the REAL author of Trump’s books…even he says that he takes back everything that he wrote!

        2. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

          itsfun is a sad, lonely, hateful person that needs mental help with his hate and wannabe tough guy but is just a punk coward hiding behind his key board right POS ? blaaa blaaaaa blahhhh <<< child talk for itsfun punk

          1. itsfun August 25, 2016

            More bs from the big bad bully
            blah blah blah blah blah

        3. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

          I’ve been told Itsy and MISSinformed voter are both commies who hate the US, hate the government, hate women and are really Middle Eastern eunochs who can’t get it up anymore so they eat rusty nails and refuse to shower daily.

          1. itsfun August 25, 2016

            What would you know about taking showers daily? I love and respect most women. I am not like you and hate the opposite sex. Makes me wonder are you gay?

          2. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            I know that the water is pretty nice at 5 AM when I take MY showers. You? You live in a pig sty and figure you don’t need to bathe, brush your snaggle teeth or comb that barely there hair.

            As for you liking women, Puhlease. Your posts prove the exact opposite. My father-in-law was from Telogia Florida. He was a southern gentlemen. He had manners, class. My ex was a big 6 ft former Navy man and would turn you into dog food.

          3. itsfun August 25, 2016

            Your ex must be a very smart man, he knew enough to get rid of you.

    3. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

      Now, did you actually READ what Charity Navigator had to say or just the edited version with all the … that your article posted.

      It didn’t say that it “didn’t meet our criteria” with the “atypical business model” as your article claims. Here is the exact quote.

      “We had previously evaluated this organization, but have since determined
      that this charity’s atypical business model can not be accurately
      captured in our current rating methodology.”

      Methodology, not criteria here. (Although later, it does use the word “criteria, just not in the context claimed by your article.)

      It also said, “A lack of a rating does not indicate a positive or negative assessment by Charity Navigator.


      1. itsfun August 25, 2016

        I read it and I posted it, I didn’t say one thing about what is in it, or say anything about it. I leave that up to the people reading the articles. I just put it out there for people to see.

        1. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

          You used the term “slush fund”. In which way does your artilcle support (with independent evidence) that the Clintons used it as a slush fund?


          1. itsfun August 25, 2016

            For one thing how about getting free 1st class air flights for the whole Clinton family?

          2. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

            Are you saying they used foundation funds for personal and/or leisure travel? If so, show me ANY evidence that that is so.

          3. itsfun August 25, 2016

            You try to prove me wrong. You can’t. Did you know that if they say one word about the foundation on any kind of trip, it can be written off to the foundation.

          4. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

            You have yet to prove yourself correct. If you make a claim, the burden is on you to support what you say.

            So far you have even discounted the evidence you yourself have used. I
            don’t think you know the definition of independent, credible sources.

            Did you know that if they say one word about the foundation on any kind of trip, it can be written off to the foundation.

            Now show me that that actually happened.

            Not holding my breath.

          5. itsfun August 25, 2016

            I don’t care if you hold your breath or not. Have you ever heard of innocent until proven guilty. Prove I am wrong. The burden of proof is on you, not me.

          6. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

            Nope. You can’t make stuff up and then tell me to prove it’s not made up.

          7. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            Itsy…why not shut the hell up already and move on? You are outnumbered by women on this thread and you are making a jerk of yourself.

          8. itsfun August 25, 2016

            I will stick around and keep posting what I please. I love women and being outnumbered is great. Are you afraid that I will be too much competition for the attention of the ladies.

          9. JPHALL August 25, 2016


          10. itsfun August 26, 2016

            Just read the AP reports, and study who the contributors are and the favors they have received. Look like proof. Not to worry though, the Clinton’s are above the law.

          11. JPHALL August 26, 2016

            SO YOU KNOW THE AP REPORT IS INCOMPLETE? THEY DID NOT INCLUDE A LOT OF MEETINGS. Subject: Re: Comment on How The Clinton Foundation Became A ‘Scandal’

          12. itsfun August 26, 2016

            Why haven’t we heard about the help the Foundation is providing for our flood torn State? Maybe they have helped one little bit. I guess Americans don’t matter to the foundation.

          13. JPHALL August 26, 2016

            JUST LIKE TRUMP!
            Subject: Re: Comment on How The Clinton Foundation Became A ‘Scandal’

          14. itsfun August 26, 2016

            nope; where has this wonderful foundation been when it comes to helping the people in our flood ravished states?

          15. JPHALL August 26, 2016

            Once again you prove your ignorance! That has never been the purpose of this foundation. See: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/press/facts Subject: Re: Comment on How The Clinton Foundation Became A ‘Scandal’

          16. itsfun August 27, 2016

            Yea; why in the world would they want to help Americans that are losing their lives, homes, vehicles, worldly processions?

          17. JPHALL August 27, 2016

            Where are the right wing charities that are helping Americans? They do not exist. At least the Clinton’s supports the Red Cross. Subject: Re: Comment on How The Clinton Foundation Became A ‘Scandal’

          18. itsfun August 27, 2016

            Its the Clinton’s and left that are running around telling everyone how wonderful they are. Let them prove it by helping Americans.

          19. JPHALL August 27, 2016

            So pathetic! Name the Republican charities helping anybody but their masters the ultra rich. Subject: Re: Comment on How The Clinton Foundation Became A ‘Scandal’

          20. itsfun August 28, 2016

            I didn’t know the Kennedy and Clinton families were not the ultra rich. Show where the Clinton foundation is helping any body in America. They are just letting the flood victims drown.

          21. JPHALL August 28, 2016

            Go away troll! You can look that up for yourself.
            Subject: Re: Comment on How The Clinton Foundation Became A ‘Scandal’

          22. itsfun August 29, 2016

            Not going anywhere. If you don’t like what I post, don’t read it.

          23. dpaano August 25, 2016

            You DO realize, don’t you, that Donnie Trump uses his Trump Foundation money to support his jet? So, why is apparently okay for him to use Foundation funds to pay for his campaign travel, but it’s NOT okay for the Clinton’s to fly to the various countries that they have helped with their Foundation via 1st Class. Personally, I just flew back from Miami in Coach, and I would NEVER recommend that again! These airlines cram you into coach like sardines in a can! I ended up with blood clots in my leg from being crammed into a seat! If I had the money AND my druthers, I’d fly 1st class too!

          24. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            Here in NJ, we also know that he claimed his use of a helicopter to ferry his Middle Eastern High Rollers to the Taj Mahal back in the day was another of his “tax write offs.”

          25. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

            but using his foundation money for his own jet only helps himself . no matter how much money his foundation might have if anyone wants help from it it with cost them and one can rest assure that he gets an IOU from any one he might ever if ever helps

          26. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            She already did and I might add far more intellectually accurate than any of your dipshit posts.

          27. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016


          28. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            Not to worry…We get our day in the sun when Hillary takes her oath of office. That’s why these nutbags are so hateful. They can’t get any woman to give them a second look. So they sit all day on a computer keyboard.

            My Mom once told me about a guy who had such a big mouth and was a draft dodger during WWII. He worked with her and mostly women whom he tried to lord it over. One night, about 18 women got him outside and beat him just enough that he had to walk into work the next day with two black eyes and scratches all over his face. He kept his mouth shut after that.

          29. itsfun August 25, 2016

            It only took 18 women to beat up one draft dodger. Rosie the riveter was tough. How many women to you get a second look from?

          30. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            I don’t get looks from women. I get them from men half my age. Why? I don’t look my age as anyone on my FB page would tell you. In fact, many of my sons friends say they look older than I do.

            Sorry if I am not just brainy and use my brains but I also know I can have any man I want and all I have to do is crook my pinky finger. Too bad I only respect and admire men with brains and who have accomplished more than playing on a computer keyboard all day.

            Don’t they teach North Korean sons of Kim Jung Un like you to shut your pie holes?

          31. itsfun August 25, 2016

            Yea right!

          32. itsfun August 25, 2016

            Yep; a big mouth like you just scares the heck out of me. LOL.
            This is just for you: blah blah blah blah blah blah

          33. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

            all I expect from a child minded clown that acts the tough guy and threatens people and when your what you call BULLY B/S don’t work you go back to your childish rants like the child minded clown you are and always will be your blahhhhh blahhh blaaaaaaaaaaa blaaaaaaaaaaaaaa . grow up moron . oh ya you cant do that you know not what growing up means

          34. itsfun August 25, 2016

            blah blah blah blah blah

          35. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

            as you being all mouth B/S only comes out . you I see as being a coward and scared of your own shadow . ya ya ok child clown blaaaaaaaaa blahhhhhhh blaaaaaaaaaaaaaa . that makes you feel better im sure

          36. itsfun August 25, 2016

            blah blah blah blah blah blah

          37. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

            the only thing you will ever know about first class is that you are and always will be a FIRST CLASS AZZ

          38. itsfun August 25, 2016

            blah blah blah blah blah

          39. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

            Ah yes…Itsy bitsy teeny weeny found someone else to annoy. Jeeze…you are like a Zika mosquito…have to be repelled with a strong insect repellent to shut you up.

          40. itsfun August 25, 2016

            never happen old woman, keep trying though. Your posts are a form of humor for all.

          41. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

            jan,, itsfun is just a trouble making coward punk that hides behind his keyboard threatens people from where he is safe and enjoys just stating and starting B/S because the coward clown thinks itsfun . save your text that moron isn’t worth it . he is a child minded POS watch the child respond with his famous child rant blah blahhh blahhhh or blas blaaaa blaaaa Either or it will be his most intelligent thing he text

          42. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

            I agree with you, but I refuse to stoop down to his level.

            It’s also a possibility that he might recognize his hypocrisy, but I doubt it.

          43. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

            he never has never did and never will recognize nothing but being a trouble making cowardly punk that hides behind his keyboard and threatens people he is a deranged child minded clown and that’s it (and that’s talking nice about the dope )

          44. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

            you would have a more intelligent conversation talking to a board or a broom stick then texting to that child minded clown

        2. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

          You may have read the dishonestly edited article about what Charity Navigator said, but you didn’t read from the source,


          1. itsfun August 25, 2016

            So what. I posted a article that was written in a public newspaper. If you don’t like it, complain to the newspaper. If you don’t like it – don’t read it.

          2. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

            Are you a Donald Trump supporter? He also forwards/Tweets demonstrably untrue stuff saying the same thing you do.

            By passing it along you are saying you believe it is credible Or don’t you care about truth? I am guessing it’s the latter..

          3. itsfun August 25, 2016

            Not a Trump supporter in any way. I have no idea what he tweets as I don’t have a tweeter account. I do not post any untrue stuff to the best of my knowledge. I hate the way the primaries worked out. One thing Trump has actually been right is about is the rigging of the primaries. Just look at the DNC doing everything it could to beat Bernie. The RNC tried the same with Trump, but couldn’t succeed because of the tremendous response from the Republicans that want to get rid of the establishment politicians. I also want to see the establishments in both parties listen to the people of this country. That doesn’t happen now. Our elected officials only do what the party leaders tell them to do and how to vote. I find this disgusting and un-American.
            I am disappointed in the two miserable candidates the people have selected for the President. When I read made up articles about Trump, I do respond, because I hate half truths about either on of the candidates.

          4. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

            I hate half truths about either on of the candidates

            Seriously and honestly, you could have fooled me.

            You used the term “slush fund” with no evidence that the foundation financially benefited the Clintons. Even your example of first class travel…would you expect that a family with the security needs (a former POTUS and current POTUS candidate) is going to fly “cattle class”? I would actually expect they would charter flights.

            I just scanned through the last 50 or so posts of yours. Not a single one said one thing negative about Trump, although you have passed along the non-supported myths about Hillary’s health.

            I don’t know who you’re trying to fool….me or yourself.

          5. itsfun August 25, 2016

            If you did, then you didn’t see any saying I support Trump. I have said several times I don’t support either one of these terrible candidates. In case you haven’t noticed this site is full of negatives about Trump. It doesn’t need anymore from me.

          6. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

            Any time you have mentioned Trump, it is NEVER been in criticism. Any time you mentioned HRC it is ALWAYS in criticism

            You’re trying to fool yourself.

          7. itsfun August 25, 2016

            think what you want.

          8. idamag August 25, 2016

            The Ten Commandments does not say, “Thou shalt not lie.” They say, “Thou shalt not bear false witness.” The Bible also says when you break one commandment, you break them all. So people, like box and itsfun are responsible for repeating lies from trump. brietbart and newsmax. They have broken them all.

          9. dpaano August 25, 2016

            And you honestly believe EVERYTHING you read in a newspaper? Seriously?

      2. idamag August 25, 2016

        Trump, Breitbart and Newsmax is who itsfun is.

        1. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

          Don’t forget Drudge.

      3. dpaano August 25, 2016

        Unfortunately, most of the trolls don’t bother reading Charity Navigator or any OTHER facts about anything they hear from the GOP….like lemmings, they just believe everything they’re told and facts fall by the wayside!!! Typical white male, uneducated, individuals!

        1. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

          I know. I don’t know how many times posters like itsfun posts from right wing sources that purport to have evidence, but NEVER check the actual sources.

          I just wonder how the Trump brigade is going to reconcile his latest flip flop on immigration knowing he now really aligns with Obama’s executive action on immigration.

  6. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

    To show how low the quality of the media has become and how insipid and vacuous its journalists are, they now resort to creating scandals and fearmongering at such rabid proportions that not a day goes by when they actually have something of real VALUE to publish.

    Skankola, skankage and skanks rely on gutter minutiae just for a paycheck. You want to explain then how these journalists and the media itself is no longer useful? Even better, you want to explain how the US has now a whole generation of media prostitutes who’d sell themselves for a $1?

    If every day we have to read between lines, delete phony emails and thwart phonies in their tracks, is this the Republican “Divide and Conquer” plan they hoped would not get under most Americans skin?

    The Clinton Foundation is decades old. Now suddenly because a bunch of Selfie Generation Posers need desperately need fodder for their pathetic media grist mills, the Clinton Foundation is a SCANDAL of mass proportion?

    Funny how there wasn’t MASS media exposure of Trump’s FinCEN lawsuit or Cheney’s backroom deal with Halliburton. Shhhhhhhh! It’s all a BIG BIG BIG right wing secret they hope no one but them knows. Think again morons.

    1. idamag August 25, 2016

      I have a correction, Eleanor: You forgot the quotation marks around “Journalism.” Journalism died when the bush administration stung Dan Rather with their venom.

  7. Rick2101 August 25, 2016

    The press is part of the problem, another part is education, people believe what they think they know. The better a person is educated the chances are they will be a better person. The PEW Research Center had an article last year that gives me hope for a better future. “Democrats hold advantages in party identification among blacks, Asians, Hispanics, well-educated adults and Millennials. Republicans have leads among whites – particularly white men, those with less education and evangelical Protestants – as well as members of the Silent Generation.” http://www.people-press.org/2015/04/07/a-deep-dive-into-party-affiliation/

    When the Founding “Fathers” formed this nation and created the Constitution every time they spoke about “the people” they meant white males not every human being. Now that the white male majority is shrinking and their domination of society is slipping, some are very paranoid and view all who are not one of them must be the “problem”. Thank goodness that those who support those views, either through greed or ignorance, are a minority, about 50 to 55 million voters out of a possible 150 million. Now while that is a lot of followers, it is still a minority and means Trump will never be President of the United States. Donald “The Fraud” Trump has the small minded completely bamboozled and the greedy fawning all over him.

    1. idamag August 25, 2016

      There are certain ideologies, such as church and politics that stifle mental growth and reason. Our forefathers warned of this.

  8. ivory69690@yahoo.com August 25, 2016

    so is the GOP gang of idiots waste more time and money with this ? lead by the KING on the GOP gang of idiots DONNY DUMP . what Hillary should do is ask all the people that her foundation has helped over the years to all send the DUMPSTER letters that should make him raise his rent again in the place’s he has already did so . all those letters millions of them should take up a lot of floor space . ands heck help put money in to the governments U.S.P.S .

  9. Box August 25, 2016

    The prior batch of emails from Assange provided linkages from Fast and Furious guns to ISIS, something of course hotly denied. But a judge now is ordering the FBI to examine 15,000 brand new emails and whats in there are Foundation donors demanding Hillary make good on promises to get their dirty work done. Previous dirty work was helping to sell Russia american land for uranium. Nobody can say “scandal,” its scandal.
    You cant say Assange makes up lies, he broke the story about the newest emails that Hillary claimed didnt exist and now its being investigated.

    1. King of America August 25, 2016

      You need urgent psychological help, friend.

  10. Box August 25, 2016

    Meantime in other news, people connected to Hillary keep dying.
    http://www.arkancide.com – cannot get there; too many people trying and overloading the server – in the meantime, here is Google’s cache of http://www.arkancide.com/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Aug 22, 2016 20:23:13 GMT.

    An Unbelievably LONG list of “everything Clinton”, mostly criminal. Its interesting that the people dying usually have two shots to the back of the heads but the Coroners classify the deaths as suicides. Who kills themselves that way?

    1. Jan123456 August 25, 2016

      Its interesting that the people dying usually have two shots to the back
      of the heads but the Coroners classify the deaths as suicides.

      Show me one autopsy or Medical Examiner report supporting that.

      I didn’t think so.

      1. idamag August 25, 2016

        Trump and Breitbart is who box is.

        1. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

          Actually? Box is Kim Jung Un’s son. Who else would post such BS?

      2. Insinnergy August 26, 2016

        Is it strange that, when I read a post from “Box”, I feel like shooting myself twice in the back of the head?

    2. King of America August 25, 2016

      I’ll take “things that totally never happened wtf” for $5, Alex.

    3. JPHALL August 25, 2016


  11. Box August 25, 2016

    Still more hot golfing news for fans out there……

  12. Box August 25, 2016

    Such a hot news day. Every single day I find another of this type of horrific and sad article about Muslims. Why isnt NM covering ANY of them?

    1. King of America August 25, 2016

      Yes, it’s amazing that people don’t seem to want to listen to your slack-jawed idiotic bigotry. What is the world coming to.

      1. Insinnergy August 26, 2016

        Do you know that a “Box” is a piece of protective gear batsmen use in Cricket that sits in their underwear covering their genitals?
        Whenever I read something from Box I’m strangely reminded of this fact.

        Link: http://www.cricketexpress.co.nz/shop-online/protective/boxes/standard-box/

        1. King of America August 26, 2016

          I did know that, but I had not yet associated that factoid with this poster. The parallels are compelling.

  13. FT66 August 25, 2016

    Infact this so-called “Clinton Foundation Scandal” has exposed how reporters think and whether they are up to the job or not. It is really a shame and depressing watching: Morning Joe and those sitting around the table what they come up with, reading an article on WAPO yesterday by Chris Cillizza, bless their hearts our friends (Fox News) what they are pouding on that shows someone is up for something and not for doing the job. Listners outside US don’t get it at all. They think this is not the US they used to know and it is totally out of control.

  14. apzzyk August 25, 2016

    Good article! Much of what has been called all of the various ‘scandal’ headlines, have been supported by selective reporting and even in the naming. But, if we look at history, the members of the GOP seem to be far better at actually using their public offices for personal profit than are the Democrats. The former Gov. of IL who is doing his sentence in CO, was simply inept in attempting to sell the Senate seat that Obama vacated. But then there was the Tea Pot Dome (real) scandle; the public corruption of VP Spiro Agnew; Watergate; and others that were simply money and power grabs.
    If you look at your member of Conress’ web site you will see ‘Help with a federal agency”, where you can describe and seek help with a problem with a federal agency, and if one could actually collect the numbers, campaign high dollar donors may get more help than those who did not contribute. This can be described as legal and business as usual corruption. But that is the way that the system has worked since forever.
    In the Clintons’ case, their opponents are far more likely to accept and try to make everything done into a scandle or signs of a ‘conspiracy’ than are others, and their constant screaming about these are just probably distractions that keeps us from investigating them. If anyone thinks that the Donald is pure as the driven snow, it is because he has distracted us from learning about his income tax returns, his numerous bankruptcies some of which were just money grabbing schemes by hurting the people to whom he owed money when his personal wealth could have been used to pay the bills, but he hid behind the firewalls of sub-corportations. Why could he discharge millions in debt through bankrupty, where student debt cannot be discharged for any reason? Does not seem to be an even playing field. Then there is his postponed until after the election on the fraud charges from Trump University.
    By howling about Hillary he has just taken the attention off of himself.

  15. dpaano August 25, 2016

    I have to agree wholeheartedly with this article…..there’s no such thing as nonpartisan journalists any longer. They report on conspiracy theories, but when they are proven to be invalid, you never hear them come back and let the American people know. Of course, you have to look at who owns the majority of the media nowadays…..most owners are right wing Republicans and they limit what their journalists and writers put in the media! What would you expect? What ever happened to the journalists of yesteryear? We need them back because what is happening now is downright ridiculous! People can’t believe a word they read in a newspaper or anything they hear on a news station! It’s pretty bad when that happens.

  16. idamag August 25, 2016

    The author just pointed out something I didn’t think of. Why wouldn’t an unbiased media ask the Clintons to share their stories on television. We get lots of “Trump is who the Republican Party is – he pulled the mask off” coverage. The Baby Bush White House and Cable TV has destroyed Journalism and contributed to the dumbing down of America.

    1. Insinnergy August 26, 2016

      As Maher once said: The 24/7 Cable news phenomenon was created to handle Kuwait and 9/11… Crises that were critically important and needed 24/7 updates. Once they were over… the cable “news” needed more crises to justify you watching …. so they create them.
      One after another.

  17. AgLander August 25, 2016

    Clinton’s appearance on the Kimmel show drew a teeny, weetsie 0.4 rating and lost in competition against a Nick At Nite rerun of “Friends”, a program that went off the air more than a decade ago. It also got beat by MTV’s show “Teen Mom, Season #6”.

    I guess there isn’t much interest among Americans in tuning in to watch a geriatric, lying witch in a tacky pants suit!.

    1. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

      Who the hell is Kimmel? Another of your big mouth rabbling rousing liars? Don’t you ever tell the truth? Or did your Daddy tell you that the only way to be a man is to lie your way through life?

    2. TiredOfTheHaters August 25, 2016

      But you were watching, weren’t you shitbag? Just admit you’re obsessed with her.

      1. AgLander August 25, 2016

        Does your mommy know you curse on the internet? Does your mommy even care?

        1. TiredOfTheHaters August 25, 2016

          I’m a grown woman do she doesn’t care. You’re the one with mommie issues.

    3. Lady Willpower August 26, 2016

      What do her age or clothing have to do with anything?

  18. Otto T. Goat August 25, 2016

    It’s hilarious watching clueless, hypocrite Clinton toadies defend corruption.

    1. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

      A penis and testicles do not a MAN make. Try and get off that tub of lard you sit on and become a productive, useful human being instead of a bowel movement Hillary passed last year.

    2. AgLander August 25, 2016

      There is an answer why they defend the Corruption Queen. They are lemmings. And lemmings don’t think, they just tag along. Lemmings enjoy being part pf the herd, it’s why they exist ….and it doesn’t matter that the herd is a bunch of ignorant, lowly informed individuals like themselves. Being part of the herd gives them more than enough satisfaction and fulfillment to remain committed to their ignorance. It is the life of a lemming and lemmings are abundant in the Democrat party. Hillary Clinton absolutely loves them and needs lemmings or she would be working at a Taco Bell right now.

      1. A. D. Reed August 25, 2016

        Projecting much, Ag?

        In psychological terms, what you and Drumpf do is called “projecting,” i.e. assigning to your enemy (or psychologist) all the awful traits that you find abhorrent in yourself but can’t admit.

        In psychiatric terms, it’s called “separation from reality.”

        1. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

          I’ve said from the get go AgLand, Informed Voter and Itsy are all one and the same mental institution patients…roflmao

        2. AgLander August 25, 2016

          I find it humorous that the definition of “projecting” (a common term and widely understood) must be so new to you that you proudly were defining it like something you just discovered? What you actually did was unwittingly expose the limited depth of your own intellect and experience. What other words would you like to list for us that you just learned today?

      2. King of America August 25, 2016

        Terrified. Of. Women.

        Good Lord.

    3. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

      Funny but women are enjoying ripping you asshat guys to shreds and you are too stupid to even know it. More to come as soon as the ink drys on Hillary’s oath of office. By then that limp noodle of yours will have fallen off.

    4. King of America August 25, 2016

      Pity you can’t seem to find any corruption to back that up.

      But then, you never can.

    5. Ignatz August 26, 2016

      It’s hilarious watching you pretend that that sentence actually addresses the points made in the article, and isn’t just worthless blather.

  19. Eleanore Whitaker August 25, 2016

    Ever notice how when men get their balls in a bunch, that their mouths grow to the size of a cow’s butt?

  20. A. D. Reed August 25, 2016

    Thank you, John Stoehrr. I made almost the same argument in the WaPo’s online comment page this morning. It’s wonderful to see it developed and laid out with such clarity here.

    Your piece should be submitted as an op-ed to every major media outlet in the country, beginning with WaPo. I wonder how many would have the balls to print it.

  21. OverthecliffRepublicans August 25, 2016

    Judicial Watch exists and is bankrolled by the reactionary plutocrats to harass the Clintons.

  22. Insinnergy August 26, 2016

    I could drink a pail of Bud Light and piss better quality stories than the American “Media”.
    What a sad sack of deadbeat click-bait chasers.

    Clinton gave a key economic speech that proposes a shake up of the American economy (reportedly) more extreme than any since WW2… And what were the stories in the papers and on the news shows for the next few days?

    All about the latest bullsh!t that fell out of Trump’s mouth.
    She actually repeated her speech next week trying to get some(any) coverage.


    It used to be sensationalist bullsh!t was the larger portion of US media, but intelligent people could still find real news if they went to the right place or bought the right paper, and looked hard enough.

    Now it’s just Donald quotes, conspiracy theories, reading twitter posts on air, and hyperbolic Right Wing screaming.

    Well. Done.

    America… “Top” in “Journalism”…

  23. Dan Wild August 26, 2016

    We still live under this post-Fairness Doctrine pretense in which journalists are not just praised for appearing neutral, but expected to appear neutral. No one can appear neutral without being dishonest, especially the people who have been exposed to as much as our journalists.


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