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Republicans Or Social Security? On 80th Anniversary, Still An Easy Choice

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Republicans Or Social Security? On 80th Anniversary, Still An Easy Choice

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Ten years ago, as Americans celebrated the 70th anniversary of Social Security, the presidency of George W. Bush was already disintegrating over his attempt to ruin that amazingly successful program. The people’s rejection of the Bush proposal to privatize the system was so powerful that Republicans in Congress scurried away – and his political reputation never recovered.

Since then, the United States has endured a market crash and a crushing recession that proved how much this country needs its premier social insurance plan. Those events demonstrated that ceding control of Social Security and its revenues to Wall Street, in accordance with the Bush scheme, would have been a national disaster. And yet the Republican candidates for president seem utterly unable to learn that simple economic lesson.

To paraphrase the old French adage, the more things change, the more conservatism remains the same. On this 80th birthday of Social Security, the increasingly right-wing Republicans continue to blather the same old nostrums, as if they missed everything that has happened since 2005 – and as if they still want revenge against Franklin Delano Roosevelt for the humiliations he inflicted on their ideological ancestors.

Since August 14, 1935, Republicans and their financial backers have sought to undo the progress that Social Security represents for workers, the elderly, the disabled, and their families. Today’s Republican presidential wannabes all claim to be offering something new, but whenever they talk about Social Security, they sound as if they’re stuck in 2005 – or 1935.

From Rand Paul to John Kasich, from Marco Rubio to Rick Perry, from Lindsey Graham to Ted Cruz, from Bobby Jindal to Jeb Bush and George Pataki, they all agree that Social Security should be privatized. And with the possible exception of Mike Huckabee, all agree on undermining the only program that keeps millions of older Americans from ending their lives in poverty rather than dignity. Chris Christie, robber of public employee pensions, would swiftly raise the retirement age to 69, threatening grave hardship for blue-collar, lower-income Americans. Carly Fiorina would inflict similar suffering on workers who weren’t fortunate enough to snag an undeserved $40 million “golden parachute,” like she did.

Behind Republican warnings about the solvency of Social Security – and their enduring desire to privatize – are major financial interests that would like to seize the system’s revenue streams for their own profit.

Greed is always in fashion on Wall Street. But working Americans see no reason to hand Social Security over to the banks, when its administrative costs amount to well under 1 percent of its revenues. They know that the financial geniuses who almost sank the world economy eight years ago would charge far more than 1 percent, while imposing enormous risks on everyone but themselves.

So thanks, but — most emphatically — no thanks. As we mark this anniversary, most surveys show negligible support for privatizing Social Security or reducing its benefits; indeed, there is growing public support for proposals to expand and improve the system.

Yet polls also show many young Americans worrying that the system may not be sufficiently robust to pay full benefits by the time they reach retirement age. The latest report of the Social Security trustees, issued last month, suggested that the system’s trust fund could be exhausted by 2034.

Even then, the system’s revenues are projected to pay at least 75 percent of the benefits owed. But that wouldn’t be good enough when benefits are already too low – and there are several simple ways to fix Social Security’s finances so that nobody need worry. Long before the trust fund runs out of money, Congress can follow the example Ronald Reagan set in 1983 by raising the payroll tax rate — or mandate more progressive policy changes, such as lifting the cap on earnings subject to the tax, and broadening the tax base.

Declaring the nation’s “ironclad commitment” to Social Security, Reagan – who had once opposed the system as a symptom of creeping socialism – also expanded its base by bringing government employees into the system. Comprehensive immigration reform, which the Republicans oppose in nativist lockstep, would also create a stronger future foundation for all retirees and disabled workers.

So whenever these would-be presidents start barking about the need to pare, prune, or privatize this country’s most effective government program, remember this: Saving Social Security for future generations — even with higher payroll taxes — is far more popular than any of them ever will be.

The best financial decision any future beneficiary can make is to vote accordingly.

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Joe Conason

A highly experienced journalist, author and editor, Joe Conason is the editor-in-chief of The National Memo, founded in July 2011. He was formerly the executive editor of the New York Observer, where he wrote a popular political column for many years. His columns are distributed by Creators Syndicate and his reporting and writing have appeared in many publications around the world, including the New York Times, the Washington Post, The New Yorker, The New Republic, The Nation, and Harpers.

Since November 2006, he has served as editor of The Investigative Fund, a nonprofit journalism center, where he has assigned and edited dozens of award-winning articles and broadcasts. He is also the author of two New York Times bestselling books, The Hunting of the President (St. Martins Press, 2000) and Big Lies: The Right-Wing Propaganda Machine and How It Distorts the Truth (St. Martins Press, 2003).

Currently he is working on a new book about former President Bill Clinton's life and work since leaving the White House in 2001. He is a frequent guest on radio and television, including MSNBC's Morning Joe, and lives in New York City with his wife and two children.

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  1. Daniel Jones August 14, 2015

    To all the privateers, so named as those seeking to end Social Security are slaves to Wall Street moguls and seek to make the rest of us the same:

    Back off, back off bitch

    Down in the gutter dyin’ in the ditch

    You better back off, back off bitch

    Face of an angel with the love of a witch

    Back off, back off bitch

    Back off, back off bitch

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  2. Dominick Vila August 15, 2015

    There is simply no logic or justification to propose the privatization or dismantling of Social Security and MEDICARE. With millions of seniors fully dependent on these social programs to afford the most basic necessities in life, and a rising level of poverty in the United States, the last thing we need is to make pensions and healthcare unaffordable for mainstream Americans.
    Without SS and MEDICARE the choices for seniors would be a return to the dates when they could only afford cat food, a life of abject misery, and dependence on their children, which many of us find undignified and consider an unnecessary burden on young people who are often struggling to make ends meet as it is.
    The Social Security contributor to beneficiary ratio, and the subsequent straining of financial resources, can be overcome by raising the contribution cap. Asking those who enjoy everything that money can buy to pay a little more is not an evil concept, it is a logical request the elite should be able to accept to accept if there is still a minimal amount of morality left in their souls. As for the special interests that stand to make huge profits if these programs are replaced with for profit business ventures, all I have to say is to identify them and make sure we don’t buy any of their products or services.

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    1. anothertoothpick August 15, 2015

      The anti-government republicans will do anything they can to make sure that the government does not work.

      I wish the media would call the anti-government republicans what they truly are.

      ANARCHISTS!

      1. idamag August 15, 2015

        Amen!

      2. Dominick Vila August 15, 2015

        Particularly when their “solutions” to the SS and MEDICARE financial problems are solvable, and when the ACA is providing the preventive medical care to 15 million Americans who relied on Emergency Room care to be healthy, and had to forgo RX because they could not afford it.
        The solution is to raise the Social Security contribution cap to $250K a year, undo some of the damage done by Bush’s MEDICARE reform, and make healthcare affordable and available to ALL Americans by expanding the scope of MEDICARE. The irony is that the latter would make our private sector more competitive by reducing the cost of benefits and allowing them to compete against foreign companies on a plane level field.

  3. Aaron_of_Portsmouth August 15, 2015

    This issue alone, Social Security and whether to let private interests run roughshod over it shows the obsession that the GOP has to run the country like the “family business”.
    This crusade to gut Social Security is another indicator of the plague-like affliction that has gripped this Party by the “throat”. They, the GOP, clearly have their own selfish interests uppermost in their minds—yet, this nutty conglomerate of politicians bleat the same old rehearsed mantra of “Fiscal Responsibility”, which their concoction is anything but.

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    1. Independent1 August 15, 2015

      Thanks for the reminder that few things change in the conservative world. No wonder the GOP keeps trying to move America back to the 19th century. The GOP is apparently so devoid of any new ideas that they’re scared to death to enter the 21st century.. Since the Grand Ole Plutocrats know nothing about how to run a government, they can only govern and exist by replaying their same old broken record of failures: They manufactured a full-fledge depression; they manufactured the Great Recession, they manufactured 14 of 17 recessions since 1900 along with 3 depressions. Quite a record isn’t it???????

      1. LibsSuck! August 15, 2015

        The last 35 years. Are you the Scarecrow from the Wizard of Oz. I wish you had a brain. It’s not hard to research this. Please think a little bit on how….Google!

        Since The Community Organizer took office..
        10 trillion and now 18 trillion.

        Now that’s quite a record!!!

        1. Independent1 August 15, 2015

          Sorry, but you’re wrong again, Reagan and the 2 bushes are responsible for more than 90% of our current debt!!!!!!!!

          1. Dominick Vila August 16, 2015

            A characteristic shown time and again by many Republicans is their failure or lack of interest in analyzing the root causes of most of the issues they bring up.
            The national debt increase they attribute to President Obama includes the cost of the TARP, a bank bailout proposed, written, and signed by President Bush in 2008 to prevent the collapse of Wall Street. It includes the cost of two unfunded crusades. It includes the need to offset the effects of the Great Recession that began in 2007. It also includes the effects of an aging population, and the increase in government liabilities that come with it.
            I would be more impressed if they proposed ways to stop borrowing, which in their minds it is usually limited to lowering tax rates for the rich and corporations – one of the main contributors to national debt increases – instead of investing in infrastructure, strengthening our social programs, limiting foreign aid to humanitarian causes, investing on education, innovation, new energy sources, and other endeavors that contribute to economic growth, job creation, and narrowing the ever growing financial gap that exists in the USA.

          2. Independent1 August 16, 2015

            I agree accept on foreign aid. I’ve been trying to find it lately, the research that was done which shows that America receives on average in return, 3-4 dollars of economic value for every dollar of foreign aid our country provides. And as the article I’m going to post explains the U.S. actually gives less per capita in foreign aid than 18 other countries.

            Now I’m sure that there are times when our foreign aid produces little, but the majority of the time it creates a lot of economic benefit for us, enough so that the good times offset the times it seems wasted that we end up with an average of 3-4 dollars of economic benefit/dollar given in foreign aid.

            See this article from USNews:

            As the dreaded “sequestration” word continues bouncing around the halls of Congress and down the streets of America, we should remember that just as it takes a buck to make a buck, it may very well take life-saving foreign aid to save a buck, save a life and create a job all in one.

            I know, I know — foreign aid is just Americans subsidizing dictators’ golden palaces; foreign aid doesn’t work; the United States already does too much; and of course, the United States can’t afford it.

            Reasonable concerns, but the fact is, foreign aid is working, and powerfully so. The plight of the poor is on an unprecedented upward trajectory. Although some money still is misdirected, politicians and aid groups are making strides to ensure greater oversight, stricter controls and better application of foreign aid. What this means is that each dollar goes further than ever before.

            What it does not mean is that we are doing enough. While most Americans believe that 20 percent of the budget goes toward foreign aid, less than 1 percent is actually given. Eighteen countries give more foreign aid per person than does the United States, and, I suggest, this giving is in part a recognition of the immense dividends foreign aid pays.

            Which brings me back to my initial point. It’s not just good for our karma to give, it’s actually good for our bottom line. Leaders of American defense – leaders like Adm. Mike Mullen and Gen. Colin Powell, and leaders of American industry, including Coca-Cola, Pepsi and Google, all agree that the best way to invest in America’s economy and defense is through foreign aid. With foreign aid, we create consumers of U.S. products. That’s why 95 percent of the United States’ top trade partners were, at one time, U.S. aid recipients, and why today, 45 percent of all U.S. exports go to developing countries.

            But we also know that where poverty reigns, violence, extremism and instability multiply. U.S. aid gives hope to the world’s downtrodden that this life – not just the next – holds promise. And the source of that inspiration comes with a big USA stamp on the label.

            As the globalized world continues to take hold, creating loyal, appreciative U.S. consumers abroad is a smart decision; with fragmented security concerns continuing to proliferate, pairing our defensive measures with proactive solutions is, according to countless top defense officials, good policy. As 25,000 children die of preventable causes each day, devoting a fraction of U.S. resources to make these stories a thing of the past may not be something we are obliged to do, but it should be something we are willing to do.

            http://www.unewsonline.com/2013/04/11/foreign-aid-benefits-us-and-recipients-alike/

          3. Dominick Vila August 16, 2015

            The part of foreign aid I have trouble with is what we give to Israel, Egypt, and Pakistan. Most of it is either unnecessary or designed to support ideological or geo-political goals.
            We would be much better off supporting endeavors in sub-Saharan African countries, that we are neglecting and countries like China are exploiting for political and economic reasons, than giving money to countries that don’t need it, or as bribes.

          4. Independent1 August 16, 2015

            Yeah! I agree that there are some of our foreign aid practices that we’ve been doing for decades that really should be looked at as to whether or not they’re still something we should be supporting – and if not, redirecting those monies to places where they are now needed far more.

          5. idamag August 21, 2015

            The aid and arms that we give to Israel is what has turned some of the Arabs against us. After Israel bulldozed down Palestinian houses to make room for settlements, the Arab world has a reason to be leery of Israel. If we stop aid to Israel, we might make the US safer from terrorists.

          6. Dominick Vila August 21, 2015

            We should also reconsider unconditional support, even in the face of heinous crimes against humanity. A true friend should have the courage to tell its allies that what they did is unacceptable. We never do, and we are paying the consequences for our obtuse policy towards Israel.

          7. idamag August 21, 2015

            Yes, we should. Someone asked me the other day if I thought it was a guilt thing because we failed to help the Jews when hitler was annihilating them. At first, that could have been the reason. Now, it is bias against any religion that doesn’t use the Bible. If the judeo-Christian faction succeeded in destroying all the Islam states, then the Christians would be anti-semitic.

        2. the truth August 16, 2015

          Obama cleaning up the Republican mess since 2008 that’s success. Republicans refuse to make the rich pay their fair share of taxes. Lack of revenue. Perhaps your the scarecrow. If you only had a brain. QUIT VOTING REPUBLICAN, feel better about yourself!!

        3. Independent1 August 21, 2015

          Sorry, when Georgie Boy left office on top of the 10.6T of debt he left, he also passed on a 1.9T in deficit spending with 1.4T left to spend in 2009. So Georgie’s direct contribution to our debt ended up at 12.5T.

          But that was only the beginning: his administration allowed the Great Recession to happen which resulted in over 10 million lost jobs and thousands of companies bankrupt – resulting in tax revenues being down 1/2 a trillion/year. Add that to the tons of unfunded legislation Georgie Boy and the dumb GOP legislators created – 2 unfunded wars -2 unfunded tax cuts – 1 unfunded Drug benefit giveaway to Big Pharma and oodles of unfunded State mandates and the majority of which are still adding into the debt and you have a recipe for Georgie Boy, his Dad and Reagan being responsible for over 90% of that 18 trillion in debt.

  4. Eleanore Whitaker August 15, 2015

    Not many are still alive today who remember what banks and Wall Street did to Americans during the Crash of ’29. If you had money saved in a bank, it was GONE. There was NO FDIC. And, thanks to the Republicans who hate anything that provides security for the money you earn, even the FDIC today only guarantees up to $200,000 of what you’ve saved or deposited. And, if you have an outstanding mortgage or loan, should these imbeciles screw up, all loans and mortgages would be called in immediately …that has NOT changed.

    Whenever the GOP men see a pile of your payroll deductions mounting, their beaky noses and greedy, beady eyes see that as “being wasted” when it could so nicely help out their Wall Street bank accounts. Of course now, their offshore tax free bank accounts are safe and sound to the tune of $67 trillion untaxed dollars …all piling up …just like your pitifully smaller pittance to SS and Medicare “piles up.”

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    1. The lucky one August 15, 2015

      Please explain how loans and mortgages with contracted payment schedules could be “called in” by lenders.

      1. Eleanore Whitaker August 15, 2015

        Any outstanding mortgage or loan can easily be “called in” for payment. Here’s the scenario. Let’s say you have $500K in your savings account; but you owe on an $800K mortgage and $15K on an auto loan. The banks play reckless games like refusing to keep more than 80% of deposits on hand. So, they invest the 80% and in reality there is 20% on deposit. The market crashes. Depositors get antsy and feel insecure about their accounts in a crash. They rush to a bank, demand to take out more than the bank has on hand in deposits.

        Banks then decide to play more games with loans and mortgages to back up the loss of the 80% they spent on reckless investments. So, they demand payment on these mortgages and loans. Remember, banks can do just about anything they please since the regulations are loose enough and loaded with loopholes. Those mortgages that are behind behind in payment can easily be “called in for the entire amount or face foreclosure on their properties. And all these loans have to be is in “default.”

        Contracts with any business is only worth the paper it’s written on. If you don’t know that…try reviewing how the skank banks screwed over not just their customers with those bogus ARM loans but the entire mortgaging industry.

        If you are corrupt, here is what you do. First and foremost? You insure all loans you intend to approve. Step II? You then approve loans in droves that under any other circumstances you know you should NEVER approve. Step. 3…in just 4 short years, the interest rate you as the mortaging bank set up with home buyers doubles and you knew all along the monthly payment would go sky high. But so what? If the home buyers can’t pay? What’s the big deal? You end up with foreclosures which make YOU the bank own the property..But wait…the skankage is not done. Once the loans you approve fail and go into foreclosure…now you are entitled to a nice fat insurance claim ….cha ching! Profit up the wazoo..

        Sorry…not done yet. Now that you have several hundred billions in foreclosed homes and a bunch of hot shot slick article real estate moguls like Donald Trump all licking their chops to buy up your foreclosed properties, well…there ya go….Cha Ching….You sell those foreclosed properties for double what you approved the original loans on them.

        That’s how you call in a loan….lenders…oh puhlease….the Mafia can’t conceive of these crooks’ scams.

        1. The lucky one August 15, 2015

          I fully share your contempt for banksters. But regarding “calling in loans” I see no way the lender, scammer whatever, can “call in” a loan that is not in arrears. If the economy is totally trashed I may not be able to keep up but since I have not over extended myself I should be ok otherwise. I know some people were caught in the crash that were purely victims but many tried to own homes they should have known were beyond their means. I witnessed many examples. They believed the pie in the sky theory that told them home values would just keep going up and were trapped by their own greed or naiveté. Yes some were conned but there is truth in the old saying that you can’t con an honest person.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker August 16, 2015

            Sensible people all keep their feet on terra firma. Those of us who know that goes up always comes down don’t buy into “Sounds too good to be true.” It usually is.

            In retrospect, we can’t know if that entire Sept. 2008 TARP and banking disaster was real or not. The reason I question this is because at present, all US banks are circumventing the banking reform laws set in place to protect depositors and borrowers from the reckless policies banks use. And, remember in 2010 when AIG, Dimon and Blankfein all whined that those banking reform laws meant a huge cut in those $10.6 million annual bonuses?

            And more recently as May 2015, JP Morgan Chase’s CEO, Dimon had this to say in response to Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s threat of fining banks refusing to adhere to the 2009 reforms, “So, fine me. We can afford it.” This was printed in the media and you can Google it.

            In June 2015, both Christine LaGarde, CEO of IMF and Janet Yellen Federal Reserve Board CEO warned Wall Street about overvaluating their trades.

            Think about this. If you have more than the FDIC’s allowable insurance, all money invested by banks disappears. So, what banks are doing right now is to keep only enough deposits on hand to cover a crash to pay the FDIC insured amounts.

            The rest just disappears as it did in 1929.

          2. The lucky one August 17, 2015

            Good points and with the exception of Warren who else among our “leaders” is trying to do anything about it, not Obama and certainly not Clinton. Dimon and Blankfein along with many others should be in prison or worse.

          3. Eleanore Whitaker August 17, 2015

            It was President Obama who immediately in 2009 pushed for banking reforms. The GOP decided they would ONLY approve it with strings “attached.” Those strings didn’t stop Obama even when those strings sought to savage the loopholes in banking reform legislation.

            But when you have corporations supported by the GOP who needs their campaign donations to keep them in politics, men like Dimon and Blankfein take an arrogant attitude you want to slap off their faces. When Senator Warren threatened a fine on banks who since 2009 (and with backroom Conservative approval) refused to abide by these reforms, their arrogance was enough to choke a horse. So..what we are dealing with are men who only learn the lessons of the hardship they are creating when they are on the receiving end. What goes up…must come down. This they don’t get. They stupidly and arrogantly believe for every financial meltdown there are taxpayers who will bail them out.

            Look at what they told the investigating committee of the State Dept. in January 2009 when threatened with being tried before a jury of their peers. Their response? “There is no jury who “understands” complex financial issues.” BS…What they were really saying is, “We are such crooks that no one with an honest mind can conceive of such thievery.”

          4. hicusdicus August 20, 2015

            Well you seem to be able to. MMMMMMMMMMMMM!!

          5. idamag August 21, 2015

            It was from the findings and reports from Elizabeth Warren that prompted Obama to act.

          6. hicusdicus August 20, 2015

            Is there any chance you might disappear with it?

          7. idamag August 21, 2015

            Actually, during the war criminal’s administration, a woman in our community had the bank trying to seize her house on a technicality that she did not see when she signed the mortgage papers. The state attorney general had to stop the bank.

          8. The lucky one August 21, 2015

            It’s always wise to practice awareness when around poisonous vipers. People who try to save a few hundred by foregoing having a lawyer they trust review their papers sometimes pay for it later.

        2. LibsSuck! August 15, 2015

          In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment.
          1994 with Clinton is your best example. I’m sure they didn’t teach you anything about the Community Reinvestment Act in the hood.
          In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules, after not having sex that woman, by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income democrap neighborhoods. That certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment, which took years to explode.

          1. the truth August 16, 2015

            REPUBLICANS DO NOT REPRESENT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN!!! If they do on your planet please explain. Bill Clinton is the reason this country is in trouble. Typical Republican ignorance!!

          2. Eleanore Whitaker August 17, 2015

            Really? So it was Clinton who represented 62% of the vote on that legislation. Do you right wing bird brains ever read the US Constitution? NO president passes ANY law without Congressional approval. He can only, as the president and member of the Executive Branch of government propose bills. He passes them to the House and Senate. They vote up or down on it.

            Wow…I think I know now why there are bars on that flag of yours…Bars to the truth and facts you CONs hate.

        3. hicusdicus August 18, 2015

          Is this comment the draft of your new fiction novel?

    2. LibsSuck! August 15, 2015

      How the Democraps spending the money in these cities.

      TOP 10 POOREST CITIES
      Then why are the people in these cities so poor?
      I know, it’s George Bush’s fault!
      Keep voting democratic! You deserve this for being so stupid!
      What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
      Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
      Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1954;
      Cincinnati, OH (3rd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1984;
      Cleveland, OH (4th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1989;
      Miami, FL. (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;
      St. Louis, MO (6th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1949;
      El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;
      Milwaukee, WI (8th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1908;
      Philadelphia, PA (9th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1952;
      Newark, NJ (10th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1907.

      Einstein once said, “The definition of insanity is doing the sa

      1. the truth August 16, 2015

        Just like idiot republicans keep trying to overturn Obamacare. Use you Einstein quote here!!!

        1. hicusdicus August 20, 2015

          Obama care will overturn its self.

          1. the truth August 25, 2015

            Really? How?

          2. hicusdicus August 25, 2015

            Premium costs will get to expensive and people will not be able to afford them and say no. The cost of health care is out of control and when the government gets in the picture the costs begin to escalate. Look what students loans did to college tuition.

      2. Eleanore Whitaker August 17, 2015

        Your facts are wrong. Every Republican state according to all government budgets and the GAO show they take anywhere from $1.35 up to $1.87 out of every US budget as ROI on the $1 they pay in federal taxes. ALL Dem states are lucky to get 55 cents for the $1 in federal taxes we pay.

        Try using unbiased sources…and you won’t be proven wrong so often.

        1. hicusdicus August 18, 2015

          You really should stop getting all your information from the moose knuckles.

    3. hicusdicus August 20, 2015

      Your still alive. Tell us about it.

  5. 1Zoe55 August 15, 2015

    What I don’t understand is why all the elderly in the Red conservative states, thinking of Florida here, vote so overwhelmingly for the Republican/Teabag party. They’re voting against their own self-interests. Most elderly are not wealthy and subsist on their Social Security check and Medicare coverage. In Louisiana, Jindal has reduced the funding for Medicaid that will impact the poor, the children and the elderly. Yet, the elderly still vote for this party of greed.

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    1. idamag August 15, 2015

      In Idaho, also.

    2. Dominick Vila August 15, 2015

      For some people, certain prejudices are far more important than their own well being and their best interests.

      1. Independent1 August 15, 2015

        What’s unfortunate, is that it’s not just those voting for these idiot Republicans that are paying the price because their predjudices push them to vote against their own best interests. The way they’ve been voting, more often than not lately, has also been negatively impacting all Americans.

        1. LibsSuck! August 15, 2015

          Same price being paid in the cities for the people who voted in Democraps.
          I love that are broke, dumb and still voting for the same people that got them this way.
          TOP 10 POOREST CITIES
          Then why are the people in these cities so poor?
          I know, it’s George Bush’s fault!
          Keep voting democratic! You deserve this for being so stupid!
          What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
          Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
          Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1954;
          Cincinnati, OH (3rd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1984;
          Cleveland, OH (4th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1989;
          Miami, FL. (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;
          St. Louis, MO (6th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1949;
          El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;
          Milwaukee, WI (8th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1908;
          Philadelphia, PA (9th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1952;
          Newark, NJ (10th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1907.

          Einstein once said, “The definition of insanity is doing the sa

          1. Independent1 August 15, 2015

            You realize of course that 8 of the 10 cities you just listed are in states that have been governed by Republicans for at least 4-8 out of the last 10 years!!! Right??? Michigan, Ohio, Florida, Texas, Wisconsin, New Jersey and even PA.

            Mayors of cities

          2. hicusdicus August 20, 2015

            With your massive amount of knowledge why don’t you franchise your shoe shine stands?

      2. hicusdicus August 20, 2015

        Wow! What a profound thing to say, what ever it is you said.

    3. LibsSuck! August 15, 2015

      Why? Because voting democratic results in this.

      TOP 10 POOREST CITIES
      Then why are the people in these cities so poor?
      I know, it’s George Bush’s fault!
      Keep voting democratic! You deserve this for being so stupid!
      What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
      Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
      Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1954;
      Cincinnati, OH (3rd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1984;
      Cleveland, OH (4th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1989;
      Miami, FL. (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;
      St. Louis, MO (6th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1949;
      El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;
      Milwaukee, WI (8th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1908;
      Philadelphia, PA (9th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1952;
      Newark, NJ (10th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1907.

      Einstein once said, “The definition of insanity is doing the sa

      1. Independent1 August 15, 2015

        And there you go – being an idiot again. Virtually all those cities are in states where REPUBLICANS HAVE STAGNATED JOB GROWTH AND REFUSED TO ACCEPT ACA AND EXPAND MEDICAID THAT NOT ONLY PREVENTS THE CREATION OF JOBS BUT KEEPS MILLIONS OF LOW INCOME PEOPLE FROM GETTING THE HEALTH CARE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO ACTIVELY PURSUE JOBS!! AND THESE IDIOT REPUBLICANS REFUSED TO EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS WHICH MILLIONS NEEDED IN ORDER TO GIVE THEM ACCESS TO THE MONEY THEY NEED TO ACTIVELY PURSUE NEW WORK!!

        BETTER GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD DUMBCOFF BECAUSE YOU’RE LIST OF POOR CITIES IS DEMONSTRATING JUST HOW BAD REPUBLICAN GOVERNANCE IS!!!!!!!

      2. Independent1 August 15, 2015

        And why don’t you try these statistics on for size:

        Since 1900, the GOP has averaged a paltry 2.6% GDP growth/yr during all heir presidencies. While the GDP has averaged growing at a 4.3% rate under Democrats. Quite a difference huh??

        And do you have any money in the stock market?? Well, if you have a balance in any brokerage account, it was accumulated under a Democrat presidency. Since 1929, the stock market during the 42 years that Republicans were president, has returned of ZERO net growth!!! While under 43 hear Democrats were in office , the net return is over 300%!!!

        Now, why would ANY SANE PERSON WHO HAS A RETIREMENT ACCOUNT IN THE STOCK MARKET VOTE REPUBLICAN, GIVEN THE DISASTROUS HISTORY OF THE MARKET UNDER A REPUBLICAN?????

        And let’s look at Job Create. Do you realize that Carter, Clinton and Obama have created TWICE AS MANY jobs almost 40 million in 18 years, as the paltry number of jobs created by Reagan and the two Bushes did in 20 years – 20 million???

        Talk about being stupid to keep doing the same thing time and time again – voting in Republicans who know absolutely nothing about running a government!!!!!!!!

        1. @HawaiianTater August 16, 2015

          GOP voters don’t particularly care about facts. If they did, they wouldn’t be voting GOP in the first place.

        2. hicusdicus August 20, 2015

          Oh! you are just so well educated, how come you still shine shoes in the barber shop?

        3. idamag August 20, 2015

          arguing with an ideologue is like playing chess with a pigeon. They knock over the pieces and crap on the board.

      3. Eleanore Whitaker August 17, 2015

        So that must be why Issa and Gowdy have wasted $22 billion on Benghazi when they keep doing the same thnings over and over? That must be why $6 trillion US tax dollars got wasted on Iraq to keep Cheney and Bush campaign debts to Halliburton, KBR and Blackwater paid?

        Don’t you dare try to tell me what 33 years as a Republican female has….The men in the GOP are bossy, overbearing, domineering old coots who use their young Roy Cohn style attack dogs like Cotton, Gowdy, Cruz and Rubio to go after anyone who dares disagree…oh gee…just like you right?

        Time for you right wing males to drop the attitude that you cannot EVER be disagreed with. Particularly when I have more experience than you ever will as a Republican.

        NO thanks…I will vote Democrat from now on. I have a distinct loathing for bossy BS CON men of the GOP and when I pay taxes, I expect those taxes not to be flushed to Republican states like Niagara Falls.

        1. hicusdicus August 18, 2015

          Please Mrs Camel Toe you have to get past the fact that you grew to old an obsolete for Republicans to keep you around. The liberals are laughing behind your back. Its no shame to be a has been everybody eventually gets all wrinkled.

          1. Eleanore Whitaker August 19, 2015

            The difference between you and me? I’m not a crook or scam artist who lives off the hard earned income of others and then calls myself a “CONservative.”

            I left the GOP in middle age. Sorry if you are an old fogie still Whistlin’ Dixie and flying the Stars and Bars.

            As for wrinkles, I’d look in the mirror if I were you. People tell me all the time that I look 15 years younger than I am. Must be why I’m hit on all the time on FB by guys half my age.

            Get a life troll loser. You have nothing to offer. Move on.

          2. hicusdicus August 20, 2015

            I bet your mirror has wrinkles so it makes you look smooth. So you look 15 years younger than you actually are. Whats so great looking like you are ninety? Unless of course you are chasing a younger moose knuckle.

          3. Eleanore Whitaker August 21, 2015

            Wrong again. If you go to my FB page, you can check with anyone who has seen me in recent days. I don’t look my age. I know this and I’m happy to say it works to my advantage with idiot men who are superficial jerks. I get to entice them and then, drop them like dirt balls.

            I don’t chase any man. I have much higher aspirations than scouring rat holes for vermin. But do keep pulling your “choke” to get off. No surprise there.

            I have the advantage of looking like a petite, shapely, attractive woman who has had enough men around me to fight dirtier and more vicious than your kind expects women to be.

            Go Hillary Go!

          4. hicusdicus August 21, 2015

            Isn’t photos shop the answer for all old wrinkly bat guano’s. We all know you don’t chase men nothing new there. We all know you are queen of the moose knuckle lodge. You keep searching and someday you will find your rabbit hole and can live in your fantasies forever. You could even write a book about it or at least a memo.

          5. Eleanore Whitaker August 22, 2015

            I don’t need to photoshop this face…Most people see it so often in person. That makes you a jealous little dipshit.

            I am queen of my own little world. You are king of the mental ward in the local psycho hospital.

            I’ve already published 2 books. You? You can’t go to the bathroom without Mcwifie lifting your butt over the bowl.

          6. hicusdicus August 22, 2015

            I just love your books. Keep a couple in the bathroom in case I run out of corn cobs. the last I heard you were running for brownie queen, how did that work out. I bet you got your ballot box stuffed.

          7. Eleanore Whitaker August 24, 2015

            I imagine a cancer on the butt of humanity like you must grow at such an alarming rate that no one can tell if you are the butt or the cancer. How about jealous little man you go find McMommy and tell her to change your Pampers…You are overloaded and your posts show how childish a man you really are.

          8. hicusdicus August 24, 2015

            When you imagine my cancerous behind do you get all excited? Does it cause you to grab a pencil and start writing romantic poetry? Just reading your prose turns my raisins into grapefruits. I have read that a daily serving of raisin soup can get rid of wrinkles just imagine what grapefruit would for you. I will pray that you will someday find a wrinkle free mirror for your viewing pleasure..

          9. dpaano December 14, 2015

            Eleanor….you go girl!!! I’m going on 70, and, like you, I still make men’s heads turn!!! Unfortunately for them, I’m happily married. Don’t take anything seriously that Hicusdiscus and his cohorts say….they are typical uninformed GOP pundits and trolls!!! Trying to talk sense to them is like talking to a wall…..

          10. Eleanore Whitaker December 15, 2015

            Thank you. I don’t take a word of what they say as fact. My concern is how their lying is going to be accepted by the younger generation. These men literally change facts to suit their own silly, childish need to get their way. Sorry, I don’t play their games. I’d rather force them to give up their lying and deceit in public than allow a single one of them to pervert the next generation into believing their garbage.

    4. plc97477 August 22, 2015

      The problem is that they are one issue voters and have no idea where their party stands on other issues. They vote for the gotp because they were told, by the gotp, that dems are godless and believe in satan. All lies of course but it is easier to believe them that look into it themselves.

  6. A_Real_Einstein August 15, 2015

    Feel the Bern.

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    1. Dominick Vila August 15, 2015

      Did you watch him at the Iowa State Fair today? Only glimpses of his speech were broadcast on CNN, but what I heard, and the enthusiastic response by the crowd suggest that if he is not yet the Democrat’s frontrunner, he will soon be. In addition to being unaffected by pseudo scandals, Bernie projects an image of honesty, authenticity, and courage that attracts many voters.

      1. LibsSuck! August 15, 2015

        And socialism! That works until you run out of money and then everyone shares in the same misery…
        Just like these cities.

        TOP 10 POOREST CITIES
        Then why are the people in these cities so poor?
        I know, it’s George Bush’s fault!
        Keep voting democratic! You deserve this for being so stupid!
        What do the top ten cities with the highest poverty rate all have in common?
        Detroit, MI (1st on the poverty rate list) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1961;
        Buffalo, NY (2nd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1954;
        Cincinnati, OH (3rd) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1984;
        Cleveland, OH (4th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1989;
        Miami, FL. (5th) has never had a Republican mayor;
        St. Louis, MO (6th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1949;
        El Paso, TX (7th) has never had a Republican mayor;
        Milwaukee, WI (8th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1908;
        Philadelphia, PA (9th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1952;
        Newark, NJ (10th) hasn’t elected a Republican mayor since 1907.

        Einstein once said, “The definition of insanity is doing

        1. Independent1 August 15, 2015

          So Socialism doesn’t work huh?? Wow!! Do you ever get anything right??? I doubt it.

          Here, you pick out from these 75 Socialistic activies that are commonplace in America,which ones you think we should get rid of.

          From the Daily Kos, here’s the 1st 11:

          75 Ways Socialism Has Improved America

          1. The Military/Defense – The United States military is the largest and most funded socialist program in the world. It operates thanks to our taxpayer dollars and protects the country as a whole. From the richest citizens to the homeless who sleep under the bridge. We are all protected by our military whether we pay taxes or not. This is complete socialism.

          2. Highways/Roads – Those roads and highways you drive on every single day are completely taxpayer funded. Your tax dollars are used to maintain, expand, and preserve our highways and roads for every one’s use. President Eisenhower was inspired by Germany’s autobahn and implemented the idea right here in America. That’s right, a republican president created our taxpayer funded, national highway system. This was a different time, before the republican party came down with a vicious case of rabies that never went away.

          3. Public Libraries – Yes. That place where you go to check out books from conservative authors telling you how horrible socialism is, is in fact socialism. Libraries are taxpayer funded. You pay a few bucks to get a library card and you can read books for free for the rest of your life.

          4. Police – Ever had a situation where you had to call the police? Then you have used a taxpayer funded socialist program. Anyone can call the police whether they pay taxes or not. They are there to protect and serve the community, not individuals. This is complete socialism on a state level, but still socialism all the same. Would you rather have to swipe your credit card before the police will help you?

          5. Fire Dept. – Hopefully you have never had a fire in your home. But if you have, you probably called your local taxpayer-funded fire department to put the fire out. Like police, this is state socialism. You tax dollars are used to rescue your entire community in case of a fire. It use to be set up where you would pay a fee every month to the fire dept. for their service. If you didn’t pay, they let your house burn down. Sadly, a man from Tennessee had this exact situation happen to him in 2011 because he didn’t pay his $75.00 fee. I guess that small town in Tennessee would rather let people’s houses burn down that resort to evil socialism. So don’t take for granted the fact that you have a 24/7 fire dept. to put out your burning home thanks to socialism.

          6. Postal Service – Like having mail delivered directly to your front door and paying next to nothing to send mail anywhere you want? Well it’s all made possible by socialism.

          7. Student Loans and Grants – Did you go to College? If you did, you family might not have been rich enough to pay your way through. So you got your education anyway through student loans and grants from the federal government at taxpayer expense. Of course you have to pay back the loans, but if not the government, did you know anyone else who was going to lend you tens of thousands of dollars? Probably not. So the taxpayers lent you the money and you paid it back with slight interest. The government grants you accepted were gifts from the taxpayer and the federal government that you did not have to pay back. Socialism got you through school.

          8. Bridges – Along with our highways, our government used your taxpayer dollars to build bridges. This allows the public to travel across rivers without having to sail or swim.

          9. Garbage Collection – Like having your garbage collected once a week instead of having to drive it to the landfill yourself? Thank socialism.

          10. Public Landfills – Taxpayer dollars are used to have places to dump all of our garbage that is collected by taxpayer funded garbage men.

          11. War – That’s right! War would not be possible without socialism. Your tax dollars are used to fight wars for your country. This is Big Government at it’s biggest. Private companies don’t attack other countries, at least not yet. Government is the only entity in America that can defend us from foreign enemies and our tax dollars are used for every second of it. Socialism has brought down Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and Bin Laden. War may very well be the most socialist thing on this list.

          For the other 64 go here:

          http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/29/1078852/-75-Ways-Socialism-Has-Improved-America

          1. Dominick Vila August 16, 2015

            It is also important to consider that most of the most prosperous countries, with the highest standard of living in the world, are in Northern Europe. I suspect the reason for their myopic comments is influenced by the fact that they associate modern European and Canadian socialism with what existed in the days of the Soviet Union and Maoist China. Needless to say, there is a huge difference between a system that included appropriation of properties, nationalization of industry, elimination of private sector employment…and mediocrity, with the social model used in countries like Sweden. Norway, Denmark, and Canada, to name a few. BTW, comments like this are a recognition that the GOP is already aiming its big guns at Bernie.

          2. Independent1 August 16, 2015

            Yes, and to me, those countries that many associate with socialism and communism, were not and are not today, true socialistic or communistic countries – they’re in fact dictatorships that are hiding under those euphemisms.

          3. hicusdicus August 18, 2015

            Here on earth. Is there some place else you are hiding from us?

          4. idamag August 20, 2015

            That is true. However, those who yammer the most are not well read nor well informed.

          5. hicusdicus August 21, 2015

            Very good, what is the next nonsensical lecture going to be about? Why would Jesus return to heaven his father just let him be tortured and murdered. Maybe we should give this some more thought. Would that be Okay with you?

          6. hicusdicus August 18, 2015

            Get rid of the mesquite Indians and the I am a victim ex slaves and America has the most prosperous and highest standard of living the world has ever seen. What is it you don’t like about being an American?

          7. Dominick Vila August 18, 2015

            Ignoring shortcomings or areas that need improvement is not a sign of patriotism. On the contrary, our duty should be to always strive to improve, and ensure all, or at least the majority of our citizens enjoy the same opportunities that so often attainable only to a tiny minority. As you probably already know, standard of living involve a lot more than per capita income.
            http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-30-countries-with-best-living-standards/20120910.htm#1

          8. hicusdicus August 21, 2015

            You know and I know that what you said had no real meaning it was just Jabberwocky . But the rest of these strange people think you said something of substance.You are pretty good at making things sound believable when is is nothing more than hot air passing through a pucker string.

          9. idamag August 20, 2015

            Norway is a socialist country and has the highest standard of living for everyone. Those jerkadoodles who scream socialism haven’t the foggiest of what it is. They do not know the difference in socialism and communism.

          10. paulyz August 17, 2015

            The Federal Government responsibly fulfilling the few duties required by our Constitution is hardly Socialism. The States joined together to establish some of these requirements for a Federal Government, like National Defense, commerse, trade, etc., but they did not call for a too powerful Central Government, leaving most functions the responsibility of the States.

            I see you continue to get your info from lefty places like the dailykos! LMAO.
            Let’s see, this article tries to blame the Republican Party for the failure of S.S. & Medicare going bust, after years of stopping the Republicans trying to create a lock-box to keep greedy politicians from stealing S.S. funds for other programs for votes, plus it was the Democrats that stole $716 BILLION from Medicare for a failing Obamacare. Obama did NOTHING to shore up these programs for 7 years, allowing them to go deeper into debt & earlier bankruptcy. You really are one ignorant, gullible dummy!

          11. hicusdicus August 18, 2015

            Independent is a strange and irrational person. Everything he says is scripted. No matter what you say , he always comes up with the same story line.

          12. paulyz August 18, 2015

            Yeah, he is a waste of one’s time, but it’s hilarious listening to his BS “reasoning”.

          13. hicusdicus August 18, 2015

            It is also tiresome. He has not got a clue to what he is talking about.

          14. paulyz August 18, 2015

            A completely, gullible, drinker of leftist kool-aid, these are the kinds of people that ruin our country & countless lives until they wake up, if ever.

          15. Independent1 August 21, 2015

            § Republican led states lead the nation in virtually every negative aspect of governance that you can bring up aside from possible job creation, and being slaves to business. Aside from that, study after study shows that Republican governed states lead the nation in:

            Poverty – with 20 of the 24 states having the most people in poverty.
            Violence – with 8 of the 10 most violent states and the top 5 most
            Homicides – with 9 of the 10 leading the nation in homicides
            Infant mortality – with 12 of the 15 having the worst infant mortality
            Worst quality of life – with all 10 worst QOL being GOP run states
            Most dangers to live in – with 9 of the top 10 being most dangerous
            Most miserable to live in – with all 10 being the most miserable
            Highest auto fatality rates – with 24 of the 27 highest auto fatalities
            Most corrupt governments – 8 of the 10 most corrupt
            Shortest life spans – with having 2-6 year shorter lifespans
            And on and on

          16. Independent1 August 21, 2015

            And here’s another sucker!! Do you live in red state?? If so, don’t say I didn’t warn you when you end up dead a lot younger than you may have expected!! That’s all part of supporting the party of Premature Death!! Aka the GOP!!!

          17. hicusdicus August 21, 2015

            I don’t want to wake him up he bad enough when he is asleep.

          18. Independent1 August 22, 2015

            I’ll give you a chance Pauly to convince the NM posters here that the GOP is really different from ISIS. Give it a try – let’s hear why the GOP IS NOT like ISIS:

            I’m sure you’d be pretty upset if ISIS actually made it into America and started their ethnic cleansing campaign going around killing people who didn’t choose to join Islam. Well explain to me and the other posters here on the NM, IN WHAT WAY, how the GOP is any different than ISIS!!

            ISIS goes around killing people who chose not to join Islam, while the GOP goes around prematurely killing people who are not, or don’t have the where-with-all to become wealthy.

            Let me give you an example:

            When the Republicans 1st took over the state of Maine in 2010, the absolutely 1st thing that the GOP governor and legislature did was vote to reduce the top income tax rate so most of them and the other already wealthy Mainers COULD KEEP MORE MONEY IN THEIR POCKETS. In order to pay for being able to do that, they voted to reduce the monies allocated to Maine’s equivalent of Medicaid, thereby kicking 70,000 Mainers off of Mainecare thereby depriving 70,000 Maine residents of the health care they needed to keep living.

            It’s been projected that since then, over 4,000 Maine people have died prematurely because of just that one decision. And that’s not the only decision that the GOP legislators and governor have made in Maine that have been projected to result in Maine people dying prematurely because of the GOP’s desire to shovel money to the already wealthy while cutting programs people need to keep living.

            So what is the difference between the GOP and ISIS?? Because ISIS goes around brutally killing people?? While the GOP kills them MAYBE in a less brutal way?? But have you ever had to be with someone dying from a cancer that wasn’t cured because the GOP robbed them of the health care check that may have caught their cancer in time to prevent it from becoming fatal!!! Like happened to Maine’s current Senator King when a Melanoma was found before it exploded in his body simply because he had been given health insurance at a new job and therefore went to a doctor!!

            Sorry lowlife BUT THE GOP IS NO DIFFERENT THAN ISIS!!

            AND YOU’RE NO BETTER THAN AN ABETTOR TO THEIR MURDER!!

          19. Independent1 August 21, 2015

            The blind leading the blind – how wonderful!!!

            Republican led states lead the nation in virtually every negative aspect of governance that you can bring up aside from possible job creation, and being slaves to business. Aside from that, study after study shows that Republican governed states lead the nation in:

            Poverty – with 20 of the 24 states having the most people in poverty.
            Violence – with 8 of the 10 most violent states and the top 5 most
            Homicides – with 9 of the 10 leading the nation in homicides
            Infant mortality – with 12 of the 15 having the worst infant mortality
            Worst quality of life – with all 10 worst QOL being GOP run states
            Most dangers to live in – with 9 of the top 10 being most dangerous
            Most miserable to live in – with all 10 being the most miserable
            Highest auto fatality rates – with 24 of the 27 highest auto fatalities
            Most corrupt governments – 8 of the 10 most corrupt
            Shortest life spans – with having 2-6 year shorter lifespans
            And on and on

          20. Independent1 August 21, 2015

            Say there sucker!! Live in denial much!! When you die much younger than you expect living in a red state – don’t ever say I didn’t warn you!!! Just keep living in your LA LA LAND SUCKER!!!

          21. hicusdicus August 21, 2015

            My state seems to be green. Are you by any chance color blind?

            You don’t to worry about me repeating much of anything you say

          22. Independent1 August 21, 2015

            Yeah I know!! All the studies I’ve compiled are just worthless pieces of information that many people gave their lives to create. We’ll see dumbcoff – who knows what they’re talking about – because it won’t be too long before you’re in for a rude awakening!! Just keep living in your denial LA LA LAND!!!

          23. Independent1 August 21, 2015

            Yeah I know!! To you low IQ complete idiots – facts are BS!! The day will come when you realize that you’ve been living in a life full of GOP lies one right after the other!! Keep it up sucker!! You’ll get yours!!!

          24. plc97477 August 22, 2015

            Maybe if they get smart enough to turn off faux news but I doubt that will happen.

          25. Independent1 August 22, 2015

            Me too. The Faux News brainwashing is pretty lethal.

        2. jamcrky August 16, 2015

          George Bush will be considered by the historian’s as the worst president this country has ever known….you can site different towns, and cities throughout the USA to explain your point, but it won’t change the facts

          1. idamag August 20, 2015

            Absolutely, and he is also a convicted war criminal.

        3. Sand_Cat August 18, 2015

          Give it up, jackass. You only look more desperate with each post.

      2. Independent1 August 15, 2015

        Dominick, LibsSuck fails to realize that 8-9 of the supposedly poorest cities in the nation that he’s listed are in Republican-governed states and his list only serves to demonstrate how disastrous GOP state governance really is (20 of the 24 states with the highest levels of poverty in the nation are GOP-governed states). .

        1. Dominick Vila August 16, 2015

          They also forget, or deliberately ignore, the fact that many of the cities they cite as evidence of failed Democratic policies owe their demise to the Republican support for the Right to work for Less policies, and the fact that many of the industries that once supported the middle class in those cities moved to the South, where people are willing to work for peanuts and without a good benefit package.

          1. Independent1 August 16, 2015

            Good points about the right-to-pay-you-less laws, and the fact that about many companies moving south. In addition to that, is the legislation that Republicans have championed which allowed people like Mitt Romney over the past 2-3 decades to leverage buyout, many of America’s manufacturing companies, destroy their jobs in America, pocket the company assets including its pension monies (while dumping the pensions of these workers on us, the taxpayers), throwing millions of Americans onto unemployment and then arranging to have these companies recreated overseas. A little practice I like to call Corporate Piracy.

          2. Dominick Vila August 16, 2015

            Incredibly, millions of Americans are either unaware of the damage done to our economy and well being, by entrepreneurs like Mitt Romney, and greedy corporations more interested in market share and profits than what is best for the USA, or ignore it for political reasons.

          3. Independent1 August 16, 2015

            Part of that is because the news media seems to ignore, i think clearly wrongly, these kind of actions that are denigrating America. I wonder if Mitt wouldn’t have lost in a clear landslide, had someone in the mainstream Media published an article a week before the 2012 election, noting that Mitt was even in that week actively working with some of his hedgefund buddies to leverage buyout just one more company; explaining in the article that over the previous 2 decades, that Mitt had been involved in destroying at least a dozen times the number of American jobs here as he had claimed during his campaigning to have created.

            And that while President Obama was working to salvage the auto industry, Mitt was working to buyout and destroy one of the auto industries key support companies, destroying 25,000 union jobs at the height of the Great Recession, while in the process actually trying to keep Obama from succeeding in resurrecting GM and Chrysler – by initially refusing to provide the small parts that company was committed to be providing so GM and Chrysler could restart production.

          4. idamag August 20, 2015

            Most of them are unaware.

          5. plc97477 August 23, 2015

            Most of them are unaware of where their behinds are.

      3. plc97477 August 22, 2015

        What are the chances that this country will elect an avowed socialist?

        1. Dominick Vila August 22, 2015

          Not very good. That is why I think Joe Biden or Al Gore may have a better chance than Sanders. Having said that, I like what Bernie is saying.

          1. plc97477 August 22, 2015

            I really like Sanders myself but I really don’t think he can make it right now. Maybe in 8 years?

  7. idamag August 15, 2015

    When it is gone, maybe they will notice. Unfortunately, they closed the poorhouses that the elderly had to go into if they did not have family to take care of them. Also families were expected to take care of their elderly. If an elderly person had a serious illness, today, they would probably tell their kids everything was okay and wait to die, instead of taking treatment for it. With present costs of raising and educating children, the elderly would go without before they would become a burden on their families.

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  8. the truth August 15, 2015

    Republicans will stop at nothing to KILL Social Security and Medicare. They are already pitting the old age portion of Social Security against the disabled portion. REPUBLICANS DO NOT REPRESENT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN. Here is just one more of the many reasons REPUBLICNAS NEED TO HIT THE UNEMPLOYMENT LINE IN 2016!!!!

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    1. docb August 16, 2015
      1. the truth August 16, 2015

        Good point. But through gerrymandering and voter suppression these REPUBLICANS make it easier for them to stay in office when mainstream America knows, REPUBLICANS DO NOT REPRESENT THE AVERAGE AMERICAN. Cant say it enough. Every American needs to hear this every day.

        1. docb August 16, 2015

          It appears that our justice system has slowing begun to strike down the gerrymandered districts and the voter suppression laws…It will take a bit but it is happening.

          Yes, truth , and to VOTE accordingly.

  9. Irishgrammy August 15, 2015

    This fight has been going on for the entire 80 years SS has been effect and the entire 50 years Medicare has been in effect! It is the insanely committed mission for the Republicans to kill both of these important and invaluable programs. It has become an obsession to the point of sickening absurdity! WE HAVE a “PRIVATIZED” RETIRMENT program called 401 and IRA’s that Republicans think are swell, and as we have seen it lines the pockets of their “financial base, Wall Street”, AND LOOK WHAT happened in 2008, left to their own devices and with utter dishonesty the PRIVATE FINANCIAL sector, took us all for a RIDE while enriching themselves and making us all a lot poorer………do we need more of that with our entire Social Security Fund……HELL NO! But that is exactly what the Republicans want to expose the American elderly to, gambling on a grandiose level……with our money…..And as for Medicare the bottom line is “hurry up and die” with the ridiculous Paul Ryan voucher program. Clearly Ryan knows nothing of how Health Insurance companies operate and underwrite….because his $6,000. voucher for one to purchase health insurance at 65 wouldn’t get you more than 3 months of coverage…………..so be sure to get sick within that tiny teeny 3 month window or you are SOL……period……AND do Republicans really believe we, the over 65 crowd don’t want the same security of knowing that at 65/66 our children should and will have SS and Medicare to count on along with whatever else they are able to put aside, which in this day and age is doubtful at best after paying off huge Student Loans, or buying over priced housing, or simply just trying to survive barring any catastrophe that might come down the road. Isn’t that why it is called SOCIAL SECURITY……s-e-c-u-r-I-t-y being the operative WORD! I am certain 99% of Americans would gladly contribute more in withholding to guarantee SS solvency as well as a small increase for Medicare as well. I trust the United States Government a damn site more than Wall Street, that’s no contest! I know the GOPTP’s chant is “government” is the “problem” BS, but I have NEVER bought into that garbage as I watch the Republican clowns desperately fighting to get into that same government for whatever nefarious reasons they have! WHAT I KNOW as TRUTH, I am sickened at the constant threats by Republicans made to eliminate or drastically cut back these programs and they need to stop! There are easy fixes to make both of these programs be secure for a long, long time, but that is not the obsessive agenda of destruction for the GOPTP, never has been, never will be!!!

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    1. Eleanore Whitaker August 15, 2015

      Any time the Republican Conservatives see a pile of money growing, it’s instant greed for them. They see money like SS and Medicare piling up and think how wonderful all of that would be if they could just invest it in all of those offshore banks and accounts they stashed $67 trillion untaxed dollars in.

      The reality for conservatives and the GOP is that you don’t leave a grocery store empty handed or with an empty wallet. Yet, that is precisely what the GOP is after…getting workers to hand over payroll tax deductions to Wall Street and walk away empty handed.

      How many people know what Prudential Insurance invested in and lost billion using their customers monthly premiums to invest in Forex accounts in 2006 that flopped? What did they do? Simple…drop customers they deem “too expensive” jack monthly premiums and then when that doesn’t work jack copays and deductibles.

      Ryan is a member of the Twerpie Generation of Entitled snot nosed punks. His entire family lived on SS for years. Now, he is hot to play the Wall Street Casino games with other peoples’ money.

      1. LibsSuck! August 15, 2015

        In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment.
        1994 with Clinton is your best example. I’m sure they didn’t teach you anything about the Community Reinvestment Act in the hood.
        In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules, after not having sex that woman, by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income democrap neighborhoods. That certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment, which took years to explode.

        1. Independent1 August 16, 2015

          And the ‘permissive lending’ exploded in a wrong way, because the Bush Administration was derelict in its governance just one more time: they looked the other way when financial companies were ‘stretching the rules’ and creating lending instruments and a lending environment that was ripe for disaster. Which resulted in millions of Americans suffering financial harm.

          As if Bush and Cheney’s dereliction of duty wasn’t bad enough in 2001 when the CIA pleaded with them 7 times to be allowed to pursue genuine leads it had that bin Laden was planning an attack on America. But despite the fact that one of our President’s biggest responsibilities is to keep America safe, Bush and Cheney derided the CIA rather than believing them, and kept refusing to allow the CIA to try and stop an ‘imminent attack’ which took place on 9/11 and cost almost 3,000 Americans and some foreigners, their lives!!

        2. Sand_Cat August 18, 2015

          Idiot. Is all you can do repeat the same crap? At least you could re-phrase it; that is, if you had any intelligence or imagination.
          Just another pathetic attempt to blame Democrats – who were NOT liberals – for the criminally negligent behavior of Bush “conservatives.”
          You forgot Ted Kennedy and Barney Frank, and – most absurd of all – Jimmy Carter in your desperation to absolve your fellow idiots of responsibility for a situation they could have prevented, even if we were to grant your lies about Democrats. Bill Clinton was most definitely NOT a liberal, except perhaps by comparison with far-right looney-tunes morons such as yourself.

      2. idamag August 20, 2015

        Yes, it is the money that they want to get their greedy hands on

    2. plc97477 August 22, 2015

      I think the gotp are hoping that young people, who have never seen their parents eat a can of cat food or had to live with a medical problem that is treatable, will flock to them and help make up for the fact that they are alienating every other group.

  10. LibsSuck! August 15, 2015

    Irish
    Typical Democrap…..2008 and didn’t happen over night moron.

    In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment.
    1994 with Clinton is your best example. I’m sure they didn’t teach you anything about the Community Reinvestment Act in the hood.
    In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules, after not having sex that woman, by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income democrap neighborhoods. That certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment, which took years to explode.

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    1. Independent1 August 16, 2015

      Let’s see, what you say Clinton did, had absolutely no negative effect on the housing market or our financial sector for AT LEAST A DECADE. It wasn’t until the Bush Administration clearly looked the other way that problems started in about 2004 or so when, financial companies started creating the investment instruments that were IN FACT THE CAUSE OF THE HOUSING AND FINANCIAL CRASH!!

      So let’s see, how do you suggest that the helpful piece of legislation that Clinton signed, is somehow responsible for the Bush Administration doing nothing while financial corporations were creating idiot investment products that were nothing more than pure gambling which ended up tanking our economy????

      Of course, you can only make that convoluted nonsense comparison in a devious and crooked mind such as yours.

      1. idamag August 20, 2015

        It wasn’t what Clinton did. It was the deregulation of the banks during the war criminal administration.

  11. Terese Wolfe August 16, 2015

    this ìs tips on how to fìll-up your bank account with added cash every week… check for more information in my profile

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  12. docb August 16, 2015
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    1. Independent1 August 16, 2015

      Good morning doc! Do you suppose that the clear cut disapproval of Congress, where the GOP now controls Congress, will translate into even some Republicans being upset enough with their party to vote a bunch of the DO NOTHING/DO BAD THINGS legislators out of office in 2016???

      1. docb August 16, 2015

        Only if they are called out daily by the voter….and the American Voter does not stay home… leaving it to the traitors of the right..

  13. Clara.Freder August 19, 2015

    if you have some free tìme use ít to earn some extra money online; vísít the hyperlink lísted on my profíle for more ínfo

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  14. idamag August 20, 2015

    Clara Freder is a scam. If no one fell for these scams, there would not be any.

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  15. idamag August 20, 2015

    Terese Wolfe is a scam.

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  16. docb August 26, 2015

    In the 1990’s there was a push to let Muni’s and State Pensions to put $$$ in the stock market…It did not fly but some did it anyway..Remember Orange County and the PERA funds..They lost millions and went to jail…

    You do not play casino with elderly security ..even when the gop bags are screaming for it… But the gop bags have never been on the side of Americans only Big corporations..They repealed Glass Steagell that precipitated and enabled the 2008 recession, too! Leaving the culprits of Goldman, Citi, AIG, and JP morgan to roam the streets..

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