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Team Mitt: ISIS Wouldn’t Exist Under President Romney

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Team Mitt: ISIS Wouldn’t Exist Under President Romney

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Even by the depressingly low standards of modern politics, Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign was notable for its incredibly loose relationship with the truth. And as Romney prepares for a third White House bid — he’s reportedly “almost certainly” jumping into the 2016 race — it’s becoming apparent that his team is still just as prone to exaggeration and hyperbole as ever.

As the Boston Globe reported Wednesday, at least one Romney ally has a delusional vision of how the past two years would have looked under President Mitt:

If Romney were president, one longtime adviser said, “There wouldn’t be an ISIS at all, and Putin would know his place in life. Domestically, things would be in better shape.”

Perhaps Team Romney is trying to aim high, given that many of its 2012 campaign promises have been achieved without Romney’s help. But there is absolutely no basis in reality for the claim that Romney would have prevented the rise of ISIS, which first emerged before Obama was even elected.

In fact, there’s a much stronger case to be made that ISIS wouldn’t exist if Romney’s 2012 foreign policy team had never led America into the Iraq War in the first place.

Similarly, while Romney accurately warned of Russia’s increasing aggression during the last election, it’s hard to argue that Vladimir Putin hasn’t figured out his place in life during Obama’s second term.

Of course, such grand proclamations are nothing new for Romney allies; for example, Romney foreign policy advisor Richard Williamson once claimed that the 2012 Benghazi attacks would not have occurred if Romney were president, and former senator Scott Brown made a similar (and even more ludicrous) claim about the Ebola virus. But they do serve as a handy reminder that, if nothing else, another Mitt Romney presidential campaign would be both a boon—and a bane—to fact checkers everywhere.

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Henry Decker

Henry Decker was formerly the Managing Editor of The National Memo. He is currently an Online Associate at MRCampaigns.

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  1. holyreality January 14, 2015

    Lies are all “patriots” have to support their delusions of American Exceptionalism.

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  2. Sand_Cat January 14, 2015

    It won’t exist under President Romney because (hopefully) there will never be a President Romney (or at least, not this Romney). One of the most dishonest weasels ever to run for the office (my apologies to real weasels, the savage killers of the animal world).

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  3. Independent1 January 15, 2015

    Suggesting the ISIS would not exist today if Mitt Romney had become president in 2012 is ludicrous as pointed out by Mr. Decker. What may well not be quite so ludicrous, is that had Mitt been elected, America may well be at war today in Syria or Iraq, and even possibly Iran. Mitt Romney is a hot head, clearly no where near as level head as Barack Obama. And there have been events over the past 2 years when Mitt may well have lost his cool; but hopefully not with Putin (who knows where they could have led).

    And clearly, at least ten plus million Americans, many who are experiencing health care insurance for the first time in their lives, should be thankful that Mitt Romney was not elected president. Had Mitt gotten into the White House in 2013, I doubt seriously that Obamacare (ACA) would have become fully effective on 1/1/2014. Mitt would have figured out a way to destroy it.

    And given that it was the Americans who signed up for ACA, who were some of the main drivers of our economy in 2014, especially during the 1st quarter, because ACA freed up monies that they could spend; I’m convinced that our economy would not have achieved the GDP and job gains that it did over the last two years under a Mitt Romney presidency.

    In fact, with Mitt in the White House, and a congress with so many Democrats that have been siding with the GOP, Mitt may well have succeeded in implementing enough of the GOP’s economy killing legislation, to have thrown America back into a recession like virtually every other industrialized country on the planet.

    So my vision of a Mitt Romney presidency is almost a rerun of the 8 years under Geogre Bush, with even higher debt growth than we have seen because Romney would have never eliminated the Bush tax cuts on the wealthy; an America back in recession, while fighting wars on at least one and maybe two fronts.

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  4. Joe T January 15, 2015

    You boys have got it coming….

    Let the liberals keep thinking their delusional thoughts, it only hastens the demise of the liberal agenda and brings more of their base – the ones who are finally seeing the truth behind their rhetoric to the ranks of Conservatives voters. People are waking up to the fact that liberal “solutions” do more harm than good to our nation, our people and our economy so their solutions are based on lies, fabrications and their Gruber mentality that the American electorate is stupid, makes poor choices and only they can lead us to the promised land. A promised land where the US becomes a 3rd rate 3rd world 2 bit country of misery, no hope, no change and divided.

    February 17, 2008, reprint – Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

    As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery

    The Liberal Mind is the first in-depth examination of the major political madness of our time: The radical left’s efforts to regulate the people from cradle to grave. To rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda’s madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by villains. [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

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    1. Grannysmovin January 15, 2015

      Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD in addition to being a forensic psychiatrist he is also is a political columnist and is a Republican. Does this mean that many of the great liberal thinkers of our time like Albert Einstein and Franklin Delano Roosevelt are “mentally disturbed”? So you believe that this individual who diagnosed a mass segment of society, without ever talking to them to be insane or suffers from a mental disorder, just because they adhere to different political ideologies? Many might believe that anyone making such an irrational, dangereous, unprofessional diagnosis of strangers brings into question that individuals own mental stability. Why hasn’t the American Psychiatric Association embraced Rossiter’s diagnosis as a legitimate form of mental disorder? Why isn’t the Psychatric community treating people for this disorder?

      1. Joe T January 15, 2015

        By Carl Bitzer on January 21, 2009
        Format: Perfect Paperback Verified Purchase
        There are several agents responsible for the structure of the modern liberal mind. They include the philosophical, cultural, intellectual (ignorance of economics), psychological, and perhaps even genealogical. Doctor Rossiter makes a superb contribution to our understanding of the psychological in his book.

        A side benefit of his book is his analysis of mental development in all its phases from infancy to adulthood. This is a valuable foundation for those of us who are responsible for raising children. It is valuable in itself, and it is of value in judging how-to information.

        A section I shall refer to often is entitled The Liberal Manifesto: Major Principles. In it he lays bare the modern liberal belief system. It is an exhaustive, seemingly complete, and dispassionate statement of what modern liberals believe. There is no hyperbole, no attempt to make it worse than it is; it’s just a straight, objective, verifiable catalogue of the modern liberal’s beliefs. As Ann Coulter observes, liberals don’t tell you what they actually think; if they did, they would never get elected.

        Doctor Rossiter ties it all together in a series of radical liberal hypothetical confessions. In each case the malady confessed to stems from a different developmental failure than the others. The confessions are the result of successful psychiatric treatment. The patient understands his liberal madness and the developmental failures that caused it. This is another part of the book I shall return to often; it’s entertaining and informative.

        So with all this good stuff why did I only give the book four stars? When I like a book, even one I have some disagreements with, I go all the way – five stars. I’m easy

        1. Grannysmovin January 15, 2015

          So you believe that just because people who have a different polictical point of view than you are mentally ill? This man is not making a diagnosis based on scientific facts, but rather his own political views. That is not a professional, that is a “charlatan”.

          1. Joe T January 15, 2015

            By Joel Tang Junior on October 1, 2007

            For years I have tried to discuss rationally with liberals/socialists. The only result I could get was to doubt my arguments, no matter how solid they were, because reason didn’t seem powerful enough to move them. I could see that the liberal agenda was economically unsound and even against the basic facts of human nature. Just when I was giving up any possibility of ever understanding the liberal mind and its irrational assaults on reason and human nature, I came across Dr. Rossiter’s book.

            For the first time I could confirm a long held impression that liberals have some problem in their way of thinking. The Liberal Mind convincingly states that what appears to be just normal people worried about real social and political problems is in fact a neurosis which manifests itself in trying to manipulate those who just want to live their lives autonomously and cooperatively by attacking their freedom. Dr. Rossiter gives a complete description of signs, symptoms and causes of this neurosis. And a didactical one, for he emphasizes and repeats key concepts all through the book, so that when introducing new concepts the fundamentals are never out of sight.

            Anyone who still understands man as an autonomous and cooperative being must read this book. The Liberal Mind is a wonderful guide through the sophisms the liberal neurosis creates in the mind of those affected by it, even if the liberal agenda has already dominated the mentality of almost a whole country.

          2. Grannysmovin January 15, 2015

            So the bottom line is both you and Dr. Rossiter’s do not respect an individual right to form their own point of view, unless it supports yours? Further, do you and Dr. Rossiter believe that there should be only one political party and that all those who have disagreed with your political ideology should be forced to adapt yours and Dr. Rossiter’s? Those who refuse, should they be institutionalized? You realize that you and your literary hero are wanting to supress individaul freedom of thought and speech.

          3. Joe T January 15, 2015

            MARYSWEET • an hour ago
            This was always obma’s plan. He doesn’t care about our vets or any American. He hates us all and our country and everything he does is planned well in advance before it does it and it is all meant to destroy our country. He talks about the new jobs created but unfortunately the jobs are not in America. I called regarding my Part D prescription and I got Bali. That job that is being paid for from tax money should be here in America. So when he talks about the economy being improved he’s not talking about America’s economy but Asia, Philippines, South/Central America – anyplace but where it should be. When he talks, remember he double talks so there is always a second meaning to what he is actually saying. Like when he said he was going to change our country. He never said how he was going to change it so listen carefully when he lies because then you can know what he’s REALLY saying. OBAMA IS THE WORST ENEMY OUR COUNTRY HAS AND HE MUST BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE ASAP.

          4. Grannysmovin January 15, 2015

            Well how do I know that Marysweet is not a member of ISIS or another anti-american terrorist group who wants to spread fear and hatred. Perhaps she is the worst enemy of our country? Ignorant unfounded statement can be made by and against anyone, it does not legitimize them. Bye Bye.

          5. Joe T January 15, 2015

            Granny…with all due respect…
            believe want you will, post what you will…
            truth will always prevail…
            best regards< Joe T

          6. dpaano January 15, 2015

            You wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you!!!

          7. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            With a closed mind like yours, you tend to walk around with eyes wired shut.

          8. kenndeb January 15, 2015

            The Emperor has demonstrated his desire to destroy America. He is anti American, and seems to protect Muslim terrorists.

          9. Grannysmovin January 15, 2015

            You are not looking to discus but argue with comments I find childish – I am out. Thank you for playing.

          10. Independent1 January 15, 2015

            All we need. The poster even CRAZIER than Joe T.
            Wow!! When is Bellview going to come and get you insane people????

          11. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            Kenndeb, did you ever stop to think that maybe Obama has made a pact with the devil, and is releasing those prisoners from Guintanamo one by one for the next two years in exchange for not doing and real harm to America?

          12. dpaano January 15, 2015

            Okay, now I understand…..you have a typical conservative hatred for our president. Same crap, different day! Sorry, Joe, but he was elected and re-elected by the people of the U.S.! Explain how that happened? Apparently, we aren’t ALL stupid! As for being the worse enemy our country ever had….let’s look at our ex-President Bush who started a war that he knew he could not finish (no one can finish it), with money that he didn’t have! Let’s look at his sidekick, Cheney, who thinks that torture is okay even if it doesn’t get results! That was the worse president EVER, of course, there’s also Reagan!

          13. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            ….and you think that the mess the world has now with all the extremists is good?

          14. Independent1 January 15, 2015

            Are you sure that Bellview isn’t looking for you?? If there’s anyone around here that’s insane, IT’S CLEARLY YOU!!! You really need to see a shrink fast!! You are stupider than stupid!!!!!! Get lost somewhere!! You’re the last thing we need posting on the internet. You’re absolutely crazy!!!!!!

          15. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            Good job, Joe…. They just don’t get it. Give them facts and they just can’t handle it.

          16. dpaano January 15, 2015

            Grannysmovin’: I just read several of John Dean’s books (he used to be a Republican under Nixon until he got smart), and according to him, the GOP is trying to put together an Imperial Presidency and government! We can’t allow that to happen or we lose ALL sense of democracy! But, Joe T only sees what he wants to see, and that’s the GOP’s idea to take away everyone’s freedom to life, liberty and happiness! If they don’t agree with it….it doesn’t work for them. Too bad!!!

          17. dpaano January 15, 2015

            Yeah, and austerity works, right? Conservatives believe in taking more and more away from the lower classes and giving more and more to the wealthy….taking away monies that we put into Social Security is really a major problem for them! Again, give me a break! I’d rather be an insane liberal Democrat than a mean-spirited Republican!

        2. dpaano January 15, 2015

          And who listens to Ann Colter….another conservative ideologue! Do you realize that most Republicans bank on lies and scare tactics to get votes? Look at the ebola scare that they used to play on the minds of the undereducated…..according to them, it was President Obama’s fault!!! Give me a break, Joe….get a life!

          1. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            Hmmm…. funny you should say that about weakness. Isn’t it the Liberals who prey on the innocent and ignorant…. Why, yes it is…..

    2. dpaano January 15, 2015

      Maybe you need to read John Dean’s book “Conservatives and Conscience” (can’t remember the exact title, but you get the point).

      1. Joe T January 15, 2015

        I don’t know about you, but I put in hours and hours to earn an exceptional income 6 + figures…the early bird gets the worm…..due diligence counts, knowledge is power, education is paramount in life, I pay taxes etc.
        What I should write checks to someone who doesn’t try or is lazy or feels entitled for cause?

        Let the liberals keep thinking their delusional thoughts, it only hastens the demise of the liberal agenda and brings more of their base – the ones who are finally seeing the truth behind their rhetoric to the ranks of Conservatives voters. People are waking up to the fact that liberal “solutions” do more harm than good to our nation, our people and our economy so their solutions are based on lies, fabrications and their Gruber mentality that the American electorate is stupid, makes poor choices and only they can lead us to the promised land. A promised land where the US becomes a 3rd rate 3rd world 2 bit country of misery, no hope, no change and divided.

        February 17, 2008, reprint – Psychiatrist Confirms: Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder

        As a clinical and forensic psychiatrist, Lyle Rossiter has treated over 1,500 patients and examined over 2,700 civil and criminal cases. Turning his hand to political psychopathology, the author of The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness, has diagnosed an alarming percentage of the population as suffering from the grotesque form of mental derangement known by some as moonbattery….is the point!

        1. dpaano January 15, 2015

          Joe…I really don’t care how much money you make…that doesn’t matter in the least!! And, what checks do you actually write that goes to someone that you consider “lazy?” Taxes go to provide security, roads, infrastructure, etc. for each and every one of us, and I don’t mind paying for that with my taxes. That’s my job as an American citizen. As for the “conservative” solutions….they seem to think that austerity is the answer when it has already been proven that it isn’t. President Obama has done wonders for our economy, but then again, conservatives don’t want to believe that….some of them actually think we still have a major deficit (which we don’t). It’s amazing how lies and scare tactics seem to work for the conservatives….they seem to be able to “rule” the poorly educated more than the politically astute individuals. Again, who was elected twice recently? That should tell you that you’re wrong! I can almost bet you that there will not be a Republican president for many years to come unless they severely change their ways!

          1. Independent1 January 15, 2015

            Joe’s got his head so far in the sand, he doesn’t even realize that if the doesn’t like writing checks for the lazy, then he should start tell the CONSERVATES that are sucking the most food stamps and welfare dollars to stop voting for Republicans who are saddling them with the need to suck so many government services.

          2. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            Eleanor, I didn’t realize you were one and the same…..

          3. dpaano January 19, 2015

            Exactly…..out of the top 12 states with the highest poverty level….10 of them are run by Republican governors…..hmmm. I wonder if Joe Smoo can explain that. AND, for his information, most of the southern states take MORE money from the government than they pay into it…….so, he need not discuss how “his” taxpayer money is paying for various things…he needs to explain why MY taxpayer money is paying for states with idiots for Governors!!!

          4. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            Correction….the Feds want more and more money for things like infrastructure, roads etc…. Where did that money come from before?

            LOL…..wonders for our economy…..keep dreaming that dream…..It’s all that oil fracking and drilling on private land. FREE enterprise hard at work.

            There may also be a Conservative congress for years to come to curb the actions of your Comm*#&%t in charge.

          5. dpaano January 19, 2015

            It came from taxes, which the Republicans refuse to raise….ever heard of inflation? It costs more and more each year that we go without fixing our infrastructure, alot of which is over 100 years old and older! I’d rather see my taxpayer money go to create jobs for people to fix our infrastructure. We are a third world country when it comes to our bridges, roads, etc. But, we can always thank Grover Norquist for his BS!!!

    3. dpaano January 15, 2015

      So, you’re against freedoms, right? You don’t believe in educating individuals or providing healthcare (which they DO pay for), and living their lives as they wish, per the Constitution? Sounds like a Republican to me!!!

      1. Joe T January 15, 2015

        dpanno…I’m not against any freedoms for anyone….but

        where does it say tax payers per se’ has to pay for someone else’s education……….I am a grad of Uv of Denver, costs me multi thousands, no one paid them for me and I had grad ed that cost even more, no one paid for me!

        Healthcare, I paid for my own….what’s up with everyone paying for someone else? Did you pay for someone else other than maybe a family member?

        This is the liberal mindset..until someone else $$$$ runs out!
        to wit:
        The Liberal Mind is the first in-depth examination of the major political madness of our time: The radical left’s efforts to regulate the people from cradle to grave. To rescue us from our troubled lives, the liberal agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity and other-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all abortion, defies religious and social tradition, declares inequality unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism thus assaults the foundations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda’s madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government coercion, sacrificing the pride of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by villains. [From The Liberal Mind; The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr., MD]

        1. dpaano January 15, 2015

          Joe: I have 6 college degrees, and I paid for them myself (still owe for them) other than what was paid by my GI Bill (I’m a Vietnam Vet). Also, whenever someone without healthcare goes to an ER….who in heck do you think pays for them…..the taxpayers (yes, you and I). I think I’d rather they have healthcare than for my taxpayer dollars to pay for their medical bills, don’t you? At least most of them are paying something for their health insurance, even those who get small subsidies.
          As for the rest of what you’re saying….it sounds conservative to me. The Constitution grants us freedom for life, liberty and justice….and if this includes a different lifestyle than I enjoy….more power to them. I really don’t care what people do as long as they are good to each other. As for the state running my life….isn’t it the conservatives that want to take away my voting rights, my right to make a medical decision, etc.? It certainly isn’t the liberals making all the BS about taking away people’s rights. For some reason, they make it sound like they’re protecting our rights, when, in fact, they are taking them away piece by piece. Yes, I’m anti-abortion, but I’m also pro-choice. What a woman does with her body is between her husband (or partner), her doctor, and herself!! This includes birth control! So, in my way of thinking….the GOP are the ones taking away the liberties that we should all be able to enjoy; i.e., clean air, a good environment, medical choices, a decent retirement, etc. Sorry, nothing you say can change my mind…and I don’t care what “The Liberal Mind” has to say!!!

          1. Independent1 January 15, 2015

            I think the ‘liberal mind’ would say BRAVO!! Great post!!! Joe, like so many RWNJs have their head buried so far in the sand they can’t see the light of day.

          2. Joe T January 16, 2015

            Speaking of the “light” of day here’s a conundrum
            (a confusing and difficult problem or question) 4 U.

            Can you discern the meaning of JOB 38:14

            It’s only 2 simple sentences in a Christian bible.

            Job 38:14 The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its…..

          3. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            You should know. Yours is stuck so far up Obama’s behind you no longer see the sun shine.

          4. Independent1 January 17, 2015

            Really?? So it’s even Fox News that is lying when even it says that Democrats far outperform Republicans with respected to not only the stock market growth, but also the economy and even GDP growth?? And when even Barclays says that since 1929 there was an effective gain of ZERO under GOP presidents while seeing 300% gains under Dems??

            And it’s the BLS that’s lying when its records show that more jobs have been created in Obama’s 1st 6 years than during all of Bush’s disastrous 8 years??
            And that 2014 has been the biggest JOB GAIN year since 1999?? And that there have been 59 straight months of job growth – the longest such period in American history??

            And it’s internet historical records that are lying when they show that of the 20 recessions/depressions that have occurred in the U.S. since 1901, that 17 of the 20 occurred during GOP presidencies – and that includes ALL THE DEPRESSIONS???

            It’s the FBI’s records that are lying when they show that it’s BY FAR GOP run states that have the highest homicide rates WHILE having BY FAR the highest gun ownership rates in the nation. And that 9 of the top 10 VIOLENT states in the nation are GOP-run states??

            And it’s the CDC that’s lying when its records show that it’s BY FAR GOP-run states that lead the nation in women dying in childbirth because of the GOP’s dominance in people living in poverty (I know the Census Bureau is lying about that too) – and also lead BY FAR in infant mortality. And that people living in Red States DIE at a much younger age on average than people living in Blue States???

            Wow!! It’s not Joe Schmoo that’s lying, it’s all these lying organizations: Fox News, the BLS, The CDC, The Census Bureau, Barclays, and a number of other internet sites that keep BI PARTISAN RECORDS that are all lying!!!!!!

            Talk about being WRRON!!! YOU ARE A BLITHERING IDIOT!!!!!!!

          5. Independent1 January 17, 2015

            Just to support some of what I said. I know this is from the Huffington Post but it’s a summation of studies done by a number of organizations including Fox Business Reports (I could post you that too):

            Stock Market Has Performed Much Better Under Democrats Than Republicans Since 1929: Studies

            Wall Street may seem more often aligned with the Republian party but according to several studies, it’s the Democratic party that’s been the best for investors. Since 1929, the stock market has seen real gains of 300 percent while its net gain has been 0 percent during the same period under Republican administrations, The Economist reports.

            The findings echo other, similar studies. For example, the S&P 500 has seen annual gains of about 12 percent since 1901 during Democratic administrations , compared to less than half that when a Republican was in the oval office, according to McGraw-Hill’s S&P Capital IQ, Fox Business reports.

            As for Wall Street, it seems most employees may not know what’s historically been good for them. Financial industry workers are making more campaign donations to Mitt Romney than to President Obama. Despite taking the cake in Wall Street donations, however, the investment patterns of many finance firms indicate that the Street may in fact be anticipating another four years under Obama, The Huffington Post reports.

            http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/15/democratic-presidents-stock-market_n_1967522.html

          6. Independent1 January 17, 2015

            When are you going to wake up and realize that a Republican administration is nothing more than one disaster after another waiting to happen??? I simply can’t afford another GOP debacle. I’m already down more than 250,000 in my retirement account because of the do nothing market under Bush 1 and the total market disaster under Bush 2 – watch that video on the Huffington Post article I left you and watch the abysmal market results under Repubicans!!!!!

          7. Joe T January 15, 2015

            It certainly isn’t the liberals making all the BS about taking away people’s rights.
            For some reason, they make it sound like they’re protecting our rights, when, in fact, they are taking them away piece by piece.

            With all due respect to you dpaano……
            the statement ABOVE by you is an oxymoron.
            (noun oxymoron plural noun oxymorons)
            a figure of speech in which apparently contradictory terms appear in conjunction (e.g., faith unfaithful kept him falsely true ).

            can you explain further….

          8. Independent1 January 15, 2015

            You just love to post TOTAL HOGWASH DON’T YOU!!!

          9. Joe T January 16, 2015

            Comments posted are from factual events and words of the actors in the events….historical.
            no prevarications are posted….no spin doctor treatment thank you….it seems that truth revealed is not appreciated. Everyone should understand the truth of a situation, the truth is not deleterious to anyone, but helpful in one’s life….the opposite of truth is deception with prevarications ustilized.
            best regards as always, Joe T

          10. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            Notice, he won’t. They just can’t explain the facts even when the writing is on the wall. They have never answered one of my questions…..

          11. joe schmo January 17, 2015

            I am also very well educated, however; Liberal institutions did not effect my political affiliation one bit. Quite the contrary it has only enhanced my opinions.

            The Constitution also grants us the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Freedom of speech, is becoming less and less unless you speak politically correct. We are losing our freedom and becoming less tolerant of each other. We are getting to the point where we no longer care what is ‘politically correct.’

            You say you really don’t care what people do as long as they are good to each other, well, unfortunately, this used to be the case. As long as Conservatives go along with the status quo then all is well, yet most of us don’t and won’t go along with Liberal ideology. There has to be some concession and SHARING involved. As you all seem to believe, this is not a one sided street.

            Conservatives absolutely do not want to take away your voting rights they just want to make sure that whoever is voting is a LEGAL registered voter. So what’s wrong with that? If that is something you cannot agree on then you’re not being entirely honest. Isn’t it the Federal Government who is telling you which doctor you can and cannot see?

            As a Conservative I am also pro-choice. You see most of us have some commonality somewhere. That is what used to bind us together as a nation. However, I draw the line on birth control payed for by the taxpayer. I thought that is what we used to have nonprofits like Planned Parenthood for.

            As far as taking your rights away, I would think twice about that before it is declared. Along with Obamas cohorts in the senate, Eric Holder and his executive orders, he has slowly been ruining this once great nation. Here is a list of rights Obama has already stripped us of.

            https://tisaboutfreedom.wordpress.com/2013/03/27/a-list-of-obamas-constitutional-violations/

            Just like you, I really don’t care what you have to say, but I still have a constitutional right to state what I want. In my opinion, BOTH sides are at fault and we ‘the people’ get to suffer the consequences of bad leadership. If we don’t start to meet in the middle, the United States is as good as gone. I’m wondering if that is what you really want to see happen?

          12. dpaano January 19, 2015

            Joe: First of all, there are people who do not have birth certificates but who ARE legal citizens….how do you expect them to get a driver’s license without a birth certificate? People were born in the sticks in some states by midwives and never had a birth certificate. This is why I find it difficult to understand why you don’t see the point about allowing EVERYONE who is a citizen to vote. Secondly, it has been proven that there has been VERY LITTLE fraud in the voting process….but it seems the Republicans are trying their darnedest to keep people who might vote Democrat from voting at all; i.e., African Americans, Latinos (legalized, of course), etc. So, I’m sorry, I can’t agree with you on the voting question.
            As for which doctor I can see….the government is not telling me which doctor to see….I see the doctor that I wish to see and always have. Not sure what your problem is. For people who have never had healthcare until the ACA, most of the ones I know are ECSTATIC to see ANY doctor because they never had a regular doctor to begin with!!!
            On birth control and abortions….unfortunately, as most conservatives, you have been clearly mislead….Planned Parenthood does NOT pay for abortions and have NEVER paid for abortions. As for taxpayer money paying for birth control….it seems a heck of a lot cheaper to help a woman keep from having unwanted children than to have to use taxpayer dollars to support them because they were born. Granted, women AND men make mistakes and babies are formed; however, it should be up to the mother, the father (or significant other) and their doctor as to whether or not they want to keep a child they can’t afford. With the conservatives taking away monies from welfare, food stamps, etc., we have more children in poverty than ever before. So, yes, my taxpayer money is paying for those children….and I’d rather that the child had not been born into an unwanted situation rather than see taxpayer money have to support them. But, I guess that’s just too logical for you to figure out.
            As for “bad leadership,” I have to disagree with you….I believe President Obama has been an excellent president despite the problems he has had to deal with from conservatives! Our economy is better than it has been in years, our deficit has been paid down significantly, the stock market is doing very well, the job situation is slowly, but surely, fixing itself, etc. So, I have to disagree with you when you say we have had bad leadership….we HAD bad leadership when we had Bush and Reagan to screw things up. Meeting in the middle would be nice if the conservatives would at least TRY to work with the Democrats, but they decided, from Day 1, to make this president suffer, and they have done their best to make that come true. I’ve never, in my 68 years, seen a president so disrespected by conservatives….it’s ridiculous and it makes conservatives look very bad. It’ll be a long time before there’s another Republican president, trust me on this one!

      2. joe schmo January 16, 2015

        No, no, no you have it all wrong. With all these FORCED new laws that Obummer has lawlessly enacted you are more against freedom than we will ever be. The scales of education are tipped too far to the Left. We need to Right them up a bit. As for healthcare, we had to have that ‘we have to pass it to see what’s in it’ ideology FORCED on us. Seems to be less and less freedom for the people.

        These are all incidents that go AGAINST the Constitution…Sounds like a Communist to me….

        1. dpaano January 16, 2015

          Joe….once again, get a life and start reading or listening to something other than FOX News! You’re brain is messed up! You must be one of those undereducated individuals that believe all the lies and scare tactics that the GOP throws at you!!! Fortunately, people who now have health insurance far outnumbers those who do not, and that’s a good thing! As for the Constitution, have you actually read it lately? Apparently you are misinterpreting it much like the conservatives on the Supreme Court!!

  5. Tom Ahs January 15, 2015

    I think we all know whose side Obama is on.

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    1. Independent1 January 15, 2015

      I’m not quite sure of the intent of your post, so just for the record: no president since FDR has worked harder to make life a little easier for the average American, than Barack Obama. And, no president has accomplished as much in 6 years as Barack Obama.

      Barack Obama has accomplished more in 6 years than all 5 of the last worthless GOP presidents accomplished in all 28 years of their disastrous presidencies. No 5 presidents have proven so absolutely worthless to America than the last 5 Republican presidents. 28 years and aside from Nixon creating the EPA, they have virtually nothing else that was clearly beneficial to our country to show for their efforts. What a waste!!!!!!!

  6. Tony Torres January 15, 2015

    Romney is a glutton for punishment,he must enjoy losing. I hope he does not run for he will harm the GOP but if he can bullshit his donors ( who reek of money) and they waste their money on him…so be it. There is no way Romney will be the next POTUS. maybe in his dreams but not in reality.

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  7. dpaano January 15, 2015

    If Romney does run, fact checkers will have a field day!!!

    Reply
  8. Joseph Kelsall January 15, 2015

    If Romney Runs the Democrats could nominate a pigeon to oppose him.

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    1. joe schmo January 16, 2015

      Why not run Warren:) LOL Nutcase #2

      1. Joseph Kelsall January 16, 2015

        Would that be a rabbit ‘Warren’?

  9. Bill January 15, 2015

    One thing you can’t argue, the GOP will never let the truth get in the way of anything they want to say!!

    Reply
    1. joe schmo January 16, 2015

      Gee, what has EVER stopped you. We have been quiet until now. We are sick and tired of this Obama crap.

  10. jamcrky January 15, 2015

    The only thing i know for certain, if Romney was president was that there would be no american Auto Industry.

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    1. joe schmo January 16, 2015

      Thank God, and that would be their own fault wouldn’t it. Ford would be the only one left and they certainly do deserve complete respect. GM or ‘government motors’ has had one recall after another they didn’t deserve to be bailed out.

      1. jamcrky January 16, 2015

        But wall street did?

  11. Eric Lipps January 15, 2015

    “If Romney were president, one longtime adviser said, “There wouldn’t be an ISIS at all, and Putin would know his place in life. Domestically, things would be in better shape.”

    Yes, and uppity darkies like Barack Obama would know their “place in life” too, I’m sure. Dream on.

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    1. joe schmo January 16, 2015

      Here we go again with the race baiting. Don’t you get it YET! We don’t give a hoot about the color of his skin. WE HATE HIS POLICIES AND PRINCIPLES. He has single-handedly (along with Peloser, Reidtard, HoldEmUp, Sharpa**, Farrett, Sorrows, Stinger….) ruined this country in 6 years. God forbid I wonder what this country will be like in 2 more under this mans reign. Haven’t you figured it out….He hates America. For that matter, you must too…..

      1. dpaano February 3, 2015

        It amazes me how quickly the Republicans forget the problems that occurred during ex-President Bush’s terms….the illegal war, the unpaid for propositions that we’re still paying for, and I could go on and on. But, apparently, they have a very short memory! They can’t seem to see that the deficit under this president has been cut by at least a third, our economy is doing very well, the stock market is up and running like crazy, the unemployment rate has dropped significantly, etc. Where did our president go wrong? I can’t understand your logic here….or lack of!

  12. Snoopdoggyd January 16, 2015

    Mitt should bet on Saturday nite live, his teams comments are funny !!!!.

    Reply
  13. Plutark Heavensbee January 20, 2015

    The decision to invade Iraq, in 2003, is quite arguably the worst decision in US history.

    Reply

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